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There arebeing transmitted herewith tothe Bureau phctostatnic copies 57¢ Fourth
reports received from Lieutenant Colonel_A-2, California, involving
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REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS
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reported sightings of
discs.
The Los Angela:
Office
is being furnished
the report of Lieutenant Colonel dated
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investigation
conducted at the Muroc Flight
The Butte
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Office
letter received from M
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Test Base,
Muroc,
California-
copy of the
August 20,1947 which setsforthe £76
Montana.
furnish
servations of Mr_8acra:aento,
California,whohasreported
observations which he believes may involve a flying
California,
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disc at Placerville,
on August 14, 194'?» -
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copy
This office isntaintaining contact with Lieutenant Colonel Q the Bureau with a. subsequent report from him concerning the
and will ;,..
a photostatic
is being furnished with a photostatio
report ofLieutenant Colonel _dated
certain
with
August 1s, 1947 concerning the
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Sir: i
The following, in flying disc story that started by
e ral, are the facts e arding the - . _ which 1&#39 ___n1_a; _&#39;l , }*5gise_S§at_esman _imes
g subsequently resulted innews stor es th aco
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and t?! hica_go..1aB-25 imes.i.ha.t carrying Army Intelligence officers was sh& - down r sabotagedover Kelso, Tfsshingtonon August l, 191+?becauseit was carry-
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disc fragments.
_£j-&#39; .;:1»_-_~ &#39; regarding the flying disc tocome andcheck thes1&#39;»_O .Q.----:? sis ,a-story &#39; The original story, asto related bTacoma
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e patrolling in his was tothe effect that whil &#39;
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land, hsshington, sighted six flying discs, one of which fluttered to the earth and disintegrated, showering his boat with fragments which caused sane
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dame. e the boat and killed his dog. wrote aletter tog - V18 ompanyan c pu s es antastic adventure magazines in f Da &#39;
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the flying disk and relating the above
story. &#39;
&requeste rans-Radio Nev}; inChica otoverify the stor asrelated by legra h p eab n 1. co nfi ming s cry, hen engag
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F115 meetina CaptainDAVTDSON andLieutenant EH01.-Ti of inmy:1-&#39;2 ne igencefrom
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Hamilton Field, California,
all met in
room at various times during»;
the afternoon and evening of July 31, 191;? and discussedthe
story as
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related by
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The ArmyIntelligence Officers, Captain
DAVIDSON and Lieutenant
about 2:00
BRO -. .~l-I, left
A. If. the morning of August l,
l9£;? to return to Hamilton Field, California for fair Force Day in a F5-25 and were carrying some of the reported disc fI ¬:1-{f:I18I&#39;ltS. The left engine on the
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B-25 burned an exhaust stack which inturn caught the left wing afire, the A7
wing subsequently breaking off andtearing off thetail. The B-25 crashed,C
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killing
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Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BEOZIN.However, the Crew Chief and
a hitch-hiker parachuted to safety. Intelligence Officers at ;IcChord Field, Washirxgton advised there was no indication of any sabotage. The plane crashed
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at Kelso,
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and 5:30
Washington ap_nro;:imately 2:50
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Five anonymous calls were received by a
the
stated that there was
1.1=o0A. rs. and 12=oonoon, August1, 191+? by the advised that at that moment a
which the caller
room number
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carrying
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disc
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big meeting was taking place
502, Winthrop Hotel; that the B-25whichcrashedwas
fragments
and that
shot down or sabotaged.
at 5:30 P.?i.bythe
I-EcChord Field
The third
that the B-25 which crashed a
call
officials
had stated
was received Friday,
he so, aashington was carrying flying
indicated
th:..t when the names
were released,
information he was furnishing was correct.
it
191+?at Whiflh time the caller
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stated the J-25
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8 20 I11-HM Cal -Flora; that the Marine olane found recently on ?.&#39;t. R.-J,in_ier had also
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and
the
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¢°1&#39;1t5 -"&#39;-T ~¢&#39;°@d Intelligence - III, officers they wouldnot denyit.
call v-es reCeived bythe
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disc
would verify
at ar:;92roximately"5:h5 P. &#39;t., Friday, August 1 by the_ which C8-11the caller stated the B--25
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Tacoma, inwhich thecaller stated
was prior to the release of the dead officers&#39; names by Army authorities the caller
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August l,
fragments and that the dead officers were Captain DAV1TI&#39;JEC and Lieutenant A BP.0.7...TJ, Intelligence 2 Officers atHamilton Field, California. This call
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a meeting taking place at that time in room 502 of the Tfinthrop Hotel concerning the disc fragments found on Maury Island. The second call was received between
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been Shoig down and th tqwould betaken toBright Field Tuesday
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forwarded herein. deny, however, -- that they actually started the flying disc story and their actual part in the story. United Airlines pilot states that on July 31, 19!-.7, both related their original flyig disc fragment story. Information gathered would indicate that
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advised thatin the ear originated witf.
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astory
which he was informed had been obtained
r-per wnshinzton.__Ihe_s.tory_uas_sup;.>osed
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part 0June, l?L.7he was requested by the Seattle
er to check on
_stated that
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patrolling in his boat near MauryIsland, saw five or six p
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him this on flying disc story. He stated thatas best he appeared could recall, this A,:Ye stories had in the paper
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was Just a few days after the first flying disc -_ and was on aSunday evening. He believed itwas
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f&#39; have made the anonymous calls. The detailed interviews of the persons con c-
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the anonymous phonecalls were
I
sale ."_l uld of the story to _-Chicago Illinois. facts No have been develo [77, d fi tel rove that *1»:-zde these calls however, from all whichwo eni yp e
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that
shortly his his admit
the early
part of June.
him in the kitchen and proceeded to talk muffled tones. He stated thst acted rather
He
about this flying suspicious "
wife came into the kitchen and was in aconsiderable rage, that the snti story was aplain fantasy which he had
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The following
information
Washington,
was obtained from
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_-.-&#39; .- -- It was the TacomaTimes paper which first issued a story on August 2 and subsequentstories intimating that the B-25 which crashed at
P""..
Kelso, Washingtonon the early mornin.g.ofAugust1, had beensabotagedor shot. downbecauseof the fact that it carried flying disc fragments. »st-ated
5 Kn +1.
that on Thursday, July 31, at approximately 11:30 A. H. he received an anorgrmous phonecall in which the caller stated that_and ArmyIntelligence officers were meeting in room 502 of the ffinthropHotel to check on the flying
,,.
.
any information regarding these repOI&#39;ts. He further stated that he advised the Boise Statesnan shortly before, or at the time left Boise to come to Tacomato check on the flying dies eta;-lee 192_rj__i;.h_
that-should
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cation and should be inno way, carried as anews story and refused to@11 -
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disc story fromwhichfragments wereobtainedonMauryIsland._sta.ted and when he picked e
turned around to speak to his editor
line 1
I mission.
hone
Hestated thatthe caller asked for who was out atthetime ofthecall He . stated room 502 in the
furnish
no information
that on Frida*
Jinthrop Hotel and
was
as he was there
ad
he
e
vised
on a
Au ust 1, between 11:00 A. H. and noo
hereceived another phone callfor&in
which theanonymous caller
stated "that he might have saneinformationfor him. _asked
the caller if
he was not the same party that had called the previous date and he said yes.
The caller
inTm,
then related that at that momentthere was a
big meeting in progress
502, intheWinthrop Hotel; that thes-25 which crashed that
morning Kelso was carrying flying disc fragments from California and that . !!cChord Field officials had stated the plane was sabotaged or shot down. ,The caller then hung up after making some statement to the effect that he was a &#39;
switchboard operator. .stated
that he went to the Winthrop Hotel on Friday
about noon and found that there was no male operator on duty.
He stated he then
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9
stating that were the Inte igence
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Captain DAVIDSON and &#39; were killed in the
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Lieutenant Btu.»
officers that
crash of
that civilians and the sheriff had been kept away from Anny guarding it. He stated the anonymous caller then had not been released yet by the Army and that this would
the B-25
the wreckage said that
and
with the the names
verify his
statements.
wstated that the following morning, Saturday, 2, .- nigust the Lrmy .sr1 ied that the officers killed were Captain DiVIDSON and Lieutenant BECAII &#39;U_____________ ___ ___ ______,_ _
.
_ ___ _ . ,
and two days later verified stated that the anonymous caller his b that name, and at this
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tnat they
ti
$01" the End denied
;;;">.=: _
you." He
then asked if the
said yes,
the caller
In this
.T-3} J4. as 1
:&#39; .,. V; "W _
ers IIIIIIII .1ling
calling
"Don &#39;t
m doing
r
story had been put on the wire and v:hen_
stated, "We
want this
to get
back to
Fan Francisco." stated that
he had checked with
United Airlines
any pilot
who denied knowi
ever hav&#39; C, I
<3. 9|-It ¢_- Th.
New Jersey."
hi
by the
The
anonymous
<~~-" .-r;-: -t _71&#39;_;i=; , &#39;; _"ii*"
Field on
call in
which the
luesday and
caller stated
that °aturday
the men
I&#39;m goin to
of
»&#39;
cceived another 7:
that ould
one of
named -with
they Wire $11011 at
name odenied
ins flown over lontana. tated that
1; .,_-5
be sent
who found
to
fragments of
l"ht
the
fl" inc Qiscd was to be flo»n to Alaska bated hut in view of tie fact the t h.trinformation as to the Intelligence officers on the B-25 had been as Y @:rnishe &#39; d by the anonymous caller, had subsequently been verified by the Army, the stor was released that the B-25 was carrying disc fragments returning to Field, California and furnishing the inference that the plane had been
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Hamilton atedhome, that about 8:00 P. K. on Sundail August 3 this sabotaged or shotdown. stated he had not given any story out to the Post he contacted at lntelligencer Seattle; stated Seattle at which time he called in Eoise and when and
¢
that he had gotten a telegram to call anumber found out it was the Boise Statesman, he had
hung up. He stated that the Boise Statesman then contacted he admitted he had seen the disc fragnents, but that he did
then. This
if .."_! f r- 9*"-r&#39;§ -J
f_i;i
stated that,
._
nee offic
tzving to nth-at he shouldget in touci. witha flyer ikited .-lirlhnes who, he stated, was with _92~&#39;h@I"1 stated over Montana. The caller then stated, "I&#39;ll see you Tuesday.
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anonymous caller
.B
caller further stated that the B-25 was shot down by a 20 m.m. cannon and that the marine nlane which was recently found wrecked on the side of t. Rainier, been missing for several months, he} also been shot down. lhc caller
ul
:5 -re ,
call the
_
were army Intellig again later contacted time stated he did not call
QPublic
,
time _informed
3=1,5 P.->inr thing that tine that
he and
l This time that
,;,__ __ .,. ,-1-: _1 -n -J . &#39; .4}. l ..~-92... ¢.?.92, a &#39;-.= _.&#39;-.1-_._P_;&#39; *1
Relations Officer
-that he
j that
knew about left Boise,
him, at not take
had beenwith_
from LZcChordField, all
which tine any of 1
afternoon until
about
he hadtold the Army authorities every-
the flying Idaho and
disc fragments story from the he had left Seattle, Iuzhington.
there weresome ofthe supposeddisc i&#39;r:.j&#39;92e
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had been
ig1_
i
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t
;-;-sfi -
iii _ August
19, 191,7
nwould see him after lunch. nstatedthat about noon _and if
M"-*==" ~=d c.-....awc..
him =+ ...:. a.
which .. :Jn92lllHme -_....- ..___..
tat-ed
that
he
and ..
his
son.. had
been _
exploring a gravel pit on Maury Island and found somestran e rock formations.
Hestated they picked upsome ofthese samoles and that hlater
sawthemandtheywentbackoverto I»-Iaury islandat which timeadditional sampleswere obtainedand tl1at thesesent
&#39;1 -.» 1 < fir I ,5 av; .4 ._
to a friend of his at--the
report and that apparently this friend had asked a newpapermao to find out 5 _t&#39;nat
University
of
Chicago to have analyzed.
They stated that they received a
where the rock formations were obtained. Qt-r1d-told
sometime after the first flying disc story had appeared, they received a tele3.e gram from Trans-Ocean Press from Chicago wanting inf ocnnation on the flying :3; _92&#39;g.~ disc fragments. titted that theyhadat notimeindicated--the .1
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it
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Eff &#39;a
3I.
of
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rockformationswerea part of a. flying disc andthat Captain were
g_-tiiving themto furnished
=&#39; cubstantial
received.
He stated
th regarding
lr5 the same in ormation that tee obtained fr0"1_ &#39;" . a
the anonymous phonecalls whichhe had
further
that
the first
killed were
two officers
Captain
Army A-_?Intelligence material.
He stated
of the dead officers
correct.
DAVIDSON and Lieutenant
the caller
indicated
it would verify
anl that
E
that
BRO!-I, officers
when the Array released
that the information
August l at which time the caller
with
the names
he was furnishing
was
stated that the B-25 was
but it wasfoundout it wasColonel-
this
further t no
th
whowas in charge
stated that the Sheriff&#39;s Office had been allowed near vi liens ll
ci
stated thethirdcallhereceived at 5:30 1".1-.:., ihzgust 2, -
time the caller
withCaptain ml
ii
_
that the second call he received at approximately
of Army Intelligence A-2. The caller had been Kept awe. i from the cras h an ad
1$1
was on Friday,
definitely shot down and that if hecontacted Army Intelligence A-2, the man in char-_-;e wouldnot denyit. w% "tstedhethoughtthemansaidto con-* .
j_- F-&#39; i L? thepl8.n¬?. . F
he received
at Hamilton Field and that the fragments were top secret
stated
tact Colonel-
E rf
call
August 1, at around 5:30 P. 1!. At this time the caller stated that the B-25 which crashed at Kelso, Washington was carrying disc fragments and that the
6:A5 P. H. Friday,
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and
not interested in the rock formationsand they denied
stated
that
one of the men who had been rrinferring
_ .&#39;.&#39;é1S trlcento Eilasica that day. Qhacaller
further stated that the B-25 was shot down from the air with a20 m.n1. cannon; that the Karine plane found recently on Lit. Rainier had also been shot down;
that Captain _v;ould he
taken to .&#39;.Field ri;*_ht Tuesdaymorninr:and that a
UnitedAirlines pilot by the nameof_flew were shot at over I-Tontana. - end would be back Tucsdoy.
The caller
stated
with Captain~.:hen
he was leaving for
they
San Francisco _
-
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refuse to furnish any further
Li <-;. _.
&#39;
Ausust 19. 3.91.7
information.
On August 5, 191+ Special ? Agent
contacted in the resident agency office,
Tacoma,W
sit? of ~the B-25 and he was informed that no investigation was being conducted by theSeattleOffice._at thistimerelatedin a rambling storythathef/;, 2*. hadpickedup somestrangerock formations whichhe hadforwarded to a friend / ~ P_&#39;&-. of his in the University of Chicago to have analyzed and that later, in some &#39; at this" time asked
11"the Seattle Office was
the
crash
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I it
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1-I
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&#39; mannerunknownto him, these
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, mentsof a flying disc.
..__ &#39;-
_
.- . -&#39; -" &#39; OnAugust &#39;?, 191.re? Tacomaresident agency office.
viewed at the
Both
denied aw "knowledge of howthe rock formations which
.
inter-V
at first &#39;
they had picked up to
have alalvzed becameconnectedwith the flying disc stories. Both denied makingamr statement to anyonethat these rock formations were portions of a
di
fragment. It wasapparent from
were
1 , , --11... at n -I» .._ 9
rock formations had been reported as being frag-
disc story.
the start of
the interview that.a.nd
.
nottelling theircomplete and trueconnection withthef]y@
They refused to give any definite information as to what they said
or had done which caused them to becomeinvolved i1 a .¬&#39;lyihg disc story,
but
A&#39
and repeatedly stated that they had nothing to do with it 8 ave evasive answers . &#39; &#39; I, ?§&#39;3 and were -at a loss to understand howthey becameconnectedwith the flying disc . !W92
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F..-l . .
After considerablequestio
they stated that in the early part of
bxglg-i Publishing f-Davis Company which publish
th$Fantasy magazine in Chicago and$5;&#39;f:E5tiYi+ei.ieg5e1ne iii Eviinstbn, Illinois
somerock formations which they had found on Maury Island. They stated they A YC sent these formations, asking_to have them analyzed. They stated that Q3 . later WI Ote and askedfor moresamples,advising he had failed to analyze they havenever sent any additional %ples Ff: the samples, stateJ.. if waswhen he called *-and asked ifthe rock formation could -J ,d remarkthat they possibly
95;; ..._~em _.. .
story
June/any sent to_>f
and that the next they heard re arding the rock formations which they had sent
have comefrom a flying disc. stated he ma e some ~ could have comefrom a flying disc and that he immediately sat downand wrote
a letter towhichwasin the latter part of Junein whichhe stated th t ial could avebeenportions of a flying disc. claimed that he
j.,_,__ .
e ma er
ld
r thehone scmething about being inhisboat when .f
t,
92...
§. .>... e.;§;§i, 1 cl .:- P tir ,
13. , W 3| #3, _&#39;§f,.f&#39; &#39; vi , .Q! .1»_. I -_92,&#39; I. 1.
15$; i l.~ &#39;-F {_.; 5
C
T} August
19, 191+ ?
and
in which they .&#39;~1r the uni.tted I OC;iformations had no connection with
contains
no information
enyflyingdiscsis beingforwarded to theBureau herewith.Thestatement76»
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is
not
being
set forth
3:00 P. ti. and that
flew
took
his plane
.stated
to
tudt he pieueu up
P.3.-E. andthat
stated that he and to get his car and that about 11:30
about 5.&#39; o
et 1-=erry&#39;s airport
came to
room about 7:00 P.M. A
L left about 8:30 P. n.&#39; when he drove ti.-to went home at this time. stated
P. LE. at which
and that
Left
time
the Army Intelligence
about midnight.
J i. 3.
.&#39;{&#39;Y
,3?-1 I
-8" 1,-_;.&#39; Q .,;__
Se they
officers.
were
He stated that he
returned to_&#39;1"oom Friday afternoon foraperox:|&#39;.mate]_y one-half hour A
from 2=3o to 3=0o P. $5., et which time and were still there and neither seemedto be able to recall if -":us in room on F rida;r, August l. The best that could be obtained from and-es to whet took place in_ room was to the effect that most of the tell: was about
Stated that wanted
~ ru . _ -_§
Hotel
Berry&#39;s .&#39;-.irport at Tacomaand
to Seattle wherehe oicl-ced up ,. YI ! Captain* y v
flying, that no one seemed very interested in the rock formations they had no connection as far as they knew with any flying disc.
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herein.
Regarding the meeting which was held in the Iiinthro
returned
__ JI? ,. -I .I -""5?
and therefore
onThursday, July31, tatedthrttthey"-both 1 t&#39;* there about 1:00P.TI. They stated thattheyall left room about
in room
f-
of value
7:;
to obtain pictures of the place wherethe
rock formations 1-wereobtained and that the Army Intelligence appear to be interested in any manner whatever.
officers
did
not
.
¢
&#39; illwater
and that
Avenue
OP@I af»eS Tacoma, 1
ashington
1111 and
tas recently
been
working withhim,buying timber. Theyhavealsobeenassociated withthe ratrol Association at
,.-
drbor
Tacoma,Washingtonwhich furnishes patrol and te11ee*fse-/I,
tection to oarts of the harbor area which are not patrolled by Tacoma police JP Qher1ff&#39;s officers.
Tacoma,
h
sshincton,
Army serial number- During thewar Eswas a pilio! and it isbelieved presently holds a Reserve Officer&#39;s commission as a Captain.
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Regarding
the B-25
which
crashed,
andLieutenantseamof the tth dire Forces,C:J.ptain Officer, Hc Chord Field, advised that this an exhaust stack had burned out on the left
left
tail.
wing afire
and that when the left
ting
killine
investigation engine which
broke off,
it
Captain
DAVIDSON
;.~2
of the crash reflected in turn caught the
also broke off
the
The plane at. the time of the crash was carrying Captain DAVIDSON,
1-&#39;5. 11*-&#39; 3-I_I*_ . - !=-if £1 5?&#39;. &#39;_.
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191; ?
1- 1 _-I ¢
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it 1. tee&#39; .i .
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The following
information was
interview on
1. I
United Airlines
yreceived
-"&#39;1
flying; discs
or similar
objects
obtained by
Special Agent
August 12, 191+ ? withCaptain pilot: It
should be noted
publicity for
on July
1+, last
having supposedly
while on
aroutine
that seen
United Air-
Jines flight out of Boise, Idaho in company with his cmpilot concerningincident. this Captain -vstates thatthey took off from i>oise,é7
.35.
.,., 43
Idaho at
F. - -| _
3:12 F.
YT. and headed I-for-thwest
at 8,000 feet, co pil0t sk ahead
of them
at__3O0 degrees and -while still cli&#39;~ 1fT.n;;
-called his
about ten
attentior; to
degrees left
some objects in the
which neither
one could
identify.
*states that hecalled aCAAradio operator at Ontario, Cregon reques-and ted hJ.m to step outside his radio shack and see if he could see any of objects overhead. The CAA radio operator replied in the negative.
c
es< .1. I.
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1 ._:~ ..r , . . .&#39;92.
Captain tates that
.T&#39;-ly in the 5 offices of the v.&#39;here izterviewed concerning
next met about was on another flir-"ht
their sighting
he first met on
both werebeing,
of fl_&#39;,&#39;i.ng discs. -states
n thisoccasion was in company of Captain. .&#39;ILLIAI&#39; and L}:fi:&#3
j,
.;:,_..;
4.
11 _
_
in the
e11
*
rr&#39; rs
join him
early afternoon
and&#39;a
at which time he asked .to
as he was investigating
a flying
Tier some uis us1On ,rreed to _ .
&#39; "
~-
1:. »:
L- 3
_he would
&#39; &#39;*
=&#39;
&#39; in
was on ursriay, Taco _/, from .
.;a
come overto Tacc-maand
disc story for
and somefragrients were involved which liight
" .-&#39;net-at
gov . -,-. -_
thrt he
three weeks ago in Boise, Idaho at -.-zhich time he, through Boise, Idaho and had a. ten minute lay-over there,
<£a ._?»_~; Lieutenant ._ IfFR;!.hEi . .n.,army In eigenceoice y, &#39;12; ; &#39; next contact with .___ > uuiy" &#39; K: he received a tele call from callin" 31, l a s.trd"-en p hone ..
&#39; "=-J. >22! -
these
someone back .ast"
be intcrc;ste~ Tt;cr»: .?= and
in seei.ng.
_
-old
_-.
fly overand pick him up at Boeing j.i1-port at b,:CO "J. 1*.
Boeing Field at about l4.:OO P. M. andthey flew to Berry : Airport
at Tacoma, .&#39;-Iashington they were metwhere by e
three of them
,. :3 1;. l.
l. s lit»I L ii . . ., I
-.§ .1": T1?
£.ugt1st{£ 19 , 191, ?
i - I7
A u
pf
the story in Tacoma. i! 1f02&#39;1 .&#39;.ed-n.t th:&#39;-.. ti-.1ethat after receivingthis letter he hadcalled_by telephonein Chicago as a result of whichcall_had forwarded him51200.00 expense money
.- J.
for coveringthe story. Shortly thereafter .1 at about 7:30 _ _ P. "._ *-"
L1 *a
arrived at the Hotel roomand the discussion beganamongthe four
menpresent
. as o ,0 what had seenon iiaury Island; professedreluctance to tell the story, claiming that several unfortunateincidentihai
occurred subsequentto his seeing the flying discs and he bclieved_the entire incident
had brought him bad luck.
In this connection he stated &#39;tfour n&#39;st or
five days subsequentto his sighting the flying discs, a man called at his
homeand had a conversationwith him the course of
u. s." ..&#39;a -.5 .92 .-s&#39; 1 - -.. iii:
!
."¥
sf, . .1 !-&#39; J4 r 1 -in-. a - .&#39; z 2I .
to that,
-
stated that his sixteen year old sonhad run awayfrom home
following theincidentandhad beenpicked up by thepolicesomewhere in t» A &#39; &#39; &#39;
LE
On ana. fter somefurther dlSCL1SSlOn of the flying disc incident in front of _
that
finally agreed to tell his story fter eliciting a promise from
he wouldnot discussthe matter for at least two wsens. "It
benoted &#39;1&#39;-h previously told his h-&#39;i.d storyto8, ."-.t this point related the incident which has already been descri"-:=c:1 and which he alleged had taken place on or about June 23
incidentmientioned
or 21
that he hadtakenpictures of
should
Ifhile relating the
the flying disc vhioh
hehad seen butthattheprinted films were marred with white spots. &#39;-}h
hadconcluded his story, Ehtedhadtoldthat hehad gone the followin him concerningthe fragments
and had at this time picked up
»- "°§|I 92 "--».1;:i .£ .-. *i*. . t.J._ .--v." 92 &#39;. f 1. I ~.&#39;j&#39; -. x < .92.,&#39;;~.>_¢.92 J,- |.&#39;-£1 ~, .&#39; 1 92 &#39; &#39;4 &#39; &#39; .
I
warnedto
In addition
day o 1-IauryIsland to verify wh
Jf .4-;» .,.
". x , | >
which_,was
forget all about everything he had seen on or near Iiaury Island.
;
-. ;,,<. e .5}. 7"; .>"&#39; .. &#39;..r_ <1? : $5 |&#39; r,
-iii 2.
several fragments and taker. them 1-:it nhim.
that he also sawone of
this time related
over the Island but that it -haddies earedinto a cloud. .&#39;.l:en.r.-nd
cad finished tellingtheir story
atold
the group thathehade.-".1-lier in
that evening called Captain D.".VID5OI92T and Lieutenant BRO-&#39;.i ArmyIntelligence u -,
officers and that they
were on their way to the Hotel room. At this point his story
protested that he did not wish to tell
before anyone else and he
.went there oe when they arived. then left the room and downstairs.rgeparted a one. droveback to Boeing Fiel near Seattle 1&#39;."he&#39; desired to pick up his ownpersonalcar, whichhe old. Theythen returned to the Hotel wherethe &#39; foundCaptain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant "%P.O&#39;.i1-J in room 502 $ t met them at the door and seem _ excited, explainingto hat CaptainDAVIDSON had just drawna reproduction wasadvisedby:
that if
suchwasthe case1.-:h idn&#39;t he just leave andnot
of a freak disc which-had supposedlybeen seen by
a womanin Arizona and that
this dr.a&#39;.&#39;.&#39;ing wasan e;<;-let reproductionof the flying disc whichuni, seen several weeks
before,
nearing Mt. Rainier.
-£".is _sc-emed very anxious totellisand= story
had
states that srho tl yU "" ter
tothe ..r..:;; offi-
cers.Before thiswas done, however, had adiscussion with Lieutenan
.". O..&#39;?!, infonniinpg himthat theyhadpromised not to releasethe stcryfor 1_?..1 Weeks andthat if :-:ere allowedto tell the storv F" ~ _, at this t-T"e ...: , LJA<1.
.. ..,,-vgr? &#39; 1&#39; &#39; =_:-.nd,.F1&#39;»V. must~agree ,&#39;!T30IT not to Ll a *reement &#39;* ~$3,, .;_&#39;.{<,&#39; ,.. ;;< 1"?5?.&#39;>" i&#39; !=&#39;rt - I»&#39;si Z ~ -c _:-.. > ...&#39;.
_I _ -related
,.-~ .,_,, -&#39;1 e. H. I ..
At
the flying discshovering
-
release the story for
one month.
Follo inn ti is
andhisstory of theflyingdiscs over P -§a11 9-
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sf Z"".
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August 19, 191+? Island
to BI&#39;!¬ and""!* DH-&#39;IDFTOT Followirzg .
92 J. that SE1j. .;
in anster to a query from _
he
uno
,-
Lieutenant Cnotain
of
the opinion
1* _ .2_
agree with them. BIIUJN and D. .- ID.30N then held a brief discussion as to whether they should return that same night to Ilamilton Field and they decided that they would. All fivc of the men then detached himself from the group and entered a phone booth to call for 2. ca
sometruth in the currentflying disc stories,
but that their immediate superiors presumablyA-2 at Hamilton Field! did not
went down tothelobby where 2?-Rf. I-I E
from IIcChordField.
also
left the groupand.&#39;.".<3t anon: outside the p?"_:_=:92
booth 1.&#39;here they held a short discussion relative to the credibility
story. £{{o.n-I indicatedto _that
J ,.. l" _ .v J.-
!&#39; 1&#39;iO&
&#39;".".VIDSON were
-_92.
$§
that there might be
this recitation,
-7* ;
r
.1" : wt &#39;.&#39; &#39;gw
Z-av. -
of-
he shouldattemtto find
out if the story was on the level and that BIlO..lI would call him the following then proceeded to the front of the Hotel day regarding this matter. The group
at which time wrought his trunk
his car
a hox of the alleged
flying
to
the
front
of
the
Hotel
disc fragments picked up
and
took
from
on Iziaury Island.
He offered them to BHOJN and DAVIDSON and when the Army car arrived from I.?cChord Field the box of fragments was placed in the car with the officers. denarted alone and _ went --"in search of :o.=nethinr-&#39; Q $4 to curt and later returned to the Hotel for the night.
from informing
01;.-&#39;. believed . --&#39;-&#39;_
OnFriday morning,Augustl, 19b7,-1-eceived
a call
himthat a B-25hadcrashed duringthe nightandit wase
to be the same lane which BROTJIand DAVIDSONwere flying.
Fo owing
thiscall-and&came totheHotel room and from theroom A
._, ,.~» .f.I-92 ..&#39;§T1 _ , If 1&#39; . 5,]! » - r. 5,
4
called
colt
192-icChord Field
thephone from
&#39;1&#39; unself anC1.8.si&#39;;ing if the off from
ing this
in an attemot
.._-_,::-if
-_.,.. at . Q. L &#39;15"
I-=." :3 4
to get infomation
nd tpoke
to a Colonel
I-icChord Field the previousnight. told
call mailed previous night&#39;s conversations tohave been killed. _told
the phone from -and
situation. was
about the crash.
identifying
B-25 which crashed was the only one which had taiiizn
his that it was. Follow-
in Chicago and;informed
him of the
and the fact that DAVIDSONand .&#39;3BO&#39;..&#39;TY were believed
the incident and that he, was
rl Q. PT
acain
to discontinue his investigation of
no lonr-er interested. -then
took if heucould shed any linht on the unableto saywhatg replytonnes. Fci asked
lowing these telephone discussi0ns says thathecalled whom
he
ident &#39;
. Chicago eifies as a personal friend of his and an
8&#39;;-tatcs that he hadpreviously made an a;_;1"eer.1£~nt with
should _f=1 that Omise
he ever run across any flying
disc
stories
in
which showecl
C
ii 2}». K 7&#39;20
I , 92 1re 3 I
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4_. .___ 4-__-atQueue-..1--..... -.-._.,s...&#39;..I. 1" LLs._ -,e :3
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e.-_-.4; ._._ as _.n .. A: 1 &#39;~.
.,,. u
0&#39;?&#39;-
1 I. ..i _ &#39; 1 .n:_ v i.;l at,&#39;.<. -z E» » ,1 e" I-sex. 1,. »e 1 1"»:. J
,. P5_
" call.
After
returning
_
August 19,191,7 "
-
called
to the Hotel room,
attemsting to gain information,
but they d
.. give
-erw. Later, e. Kr.
e but_refused of the called and wke to imonthe telephone to give out any information. further relates that while the. four men were in the
room at this
time,
door and that he retrieved it from the iloor.
of this envelopeseemed to startle.
an envelope was shoved under the
states
that tho appearance
considerablyandthat in fact,
turned white as a sheet untilread the note unsigned which was a communication to the Hotel advising that a strike of Hotel employees was eminent and h lo nger . that guestsshouldnot expectroom and&#39; telephone servicemuc
after this
identieft
&#39; take _to Q
the Hotel room elfter promising, to
HenryIsland the following mOI nln-,Saturday!. _
I
the Lotel
room and was answered
by
1
_
"bnvho W _
requested _
to go out andcall himfroma pay station. complained andwas informed bpthet two anonymous telephone calls had been received by him that a discussion regarding flying discs had been taking place in room 502 Winthrop Hotel which involved JennyIr.tel1.ig,ence officers.
information w&#39;nic&#39;nii&#39;1ad received,ii- was
From the
convincedthat the anonymous
" caller must have been present at the discussion also, as.&#39;was seemingly
in possessionof pertinent remarkswhich had beenmadein the room.
I-
y
A
rv
I
»-- :j-_». liq. !. .a- -
ft __.
F-&#39; Id... " >1 . -F"|_ 7.; _
.-»-.L.-_ . 1.-> "&#39;21 . .1-&#39;»_ I W21, KP ,-
1-. r::_§ - ,_ ;».é &#39;§: " u -P ;- - Z &#39; : Xi1;Q}- ii .i.- rtI_ &#39;-, &#39;.. L . ,, _.¥ is
Shortly
p and.-then went out fordinner and on-their return, #! ou.nd anote in the box requesting him to call a certain tele hone number. e did this from at the
.&#39; ¬
:5
.
states
th a t he did not give.n.ny
oion of the call,
&#39;and further infomation
th t
a
in
conclu-
he returned to the Hotel room and he and_>retired
for~
the night. &#39;
morning,August2, 191+?
phone call further
inf
at 2:30
redeiveda tele-
111 Chicago, but was unable to give him any him, however, that he would call
him baa"
calledfroma coffeeshop nearby and
an unknown man in the Coffee Shop for P8rson was discussing . somelumber business &#39;th-
and left afterbreakfast. Onleaving -the coffee BhOp,.&$k8& about f th e flying negatives of the photographs which he claimed to have taken o discs.said thenegatives were in theglove compartment of hiscar,by es a search oftheinstant glove compartment was fruitless.The fourthen pr /
and the
ceededin-s
-&#39; the y car to the dockthere
were to embark for Iiaury Island
The boat, however, could not be started and the trip in the day. &#39;"hile at the dock, however, .aeked to
to the boat which had allegedly
was postponed until later be shown the damage
occurred when the fragments showered down on
.
i ";§i .&#39;i. hta may have been repairs to the windshield _ Maury Island. pointcd ont 1&#39;: 1 &#39; th b t but mas not _ personally satisfied that these repairs and lights on e ca ,i l -. were madeas a result of any such incident. then drove them &#39; hand-back to the 1-Ictol at approximately lO:I+5 R. M. and.to1»d
E
_.
.13. .
¥
$-
if-k5; . --I . 29? er: Q E
~august
g:
1, :"_ 9;
19, 1947
Jinthrop Hotel. -ctated that
r -_§ ,- W?
the przrposeof this meeting wasto try
to
find outsomething more about the anonymous phone calls whichhad told
him about, He
~
and still
refused to give out any further information
regarding theThursday evening conference toend were informed bythat the nwas afraid of being scooped on the story andwas going
to print something onthat day.
13 "h 4 51 &#39; lr ;** --
returned to -h-1 hotel
the ca_llwas
cut off by the switchboard operatorsince it was notan emergency ca-ll.
and then
..&#39; -Q
returned tothe Hotellobby vshere theyfound e. tele_¢jram"from
-asu:|.ng them
-_. . _{*&#39;
to call him
at either
Broadway orProctor _is
sure of the exchange..>alled this states that
.3;,
- Y"to then
he went
number, but x."as not
Unlon &#39; T egle ra
the Hestern
acollecttelegram tomat
_.1
1
and _then
and shortlythereafter receivedaphone cell from but
brief resume of the
iii5" n&#39;_"92-T
wire _a
the éwhich
not
and dispatched
contained a
incidents &#39;.&#39;.hich had occurred and which requested to
telephone numberv:here could
states that
hOffice
there.
he has never received
an answer
be reached
after 6:00 P. II.
to that
wire. Following
this, states that he and athatent<.red"and he and _r:ere sittingofthe in the C&#39;l;nnpi.c {Total when gave thezr. each ct; the
lobby of
F.
latest edition in the crash of
,. ,-.11 e. *-I - 1/ _v 6. ..r 92
of the T£;.CO:!!=". Tiizeswhich the Army B 5 which killed
contt inecl :.; story llinting; an sabot "+1 Captain D. .VID3CI=T and Lieutenant BIC 1.".
stated thathe and continued to occupy seats inthe Hotel lobby they were unable to receive calls in the Patel.
most of the afternoon inasmuch as room due to the Hotel employees
."&#39;5
strike.
he relates
in the late afternoon from _advising;
" -:30 as-had further
that he
received
him to call th&#39;t
acall
evening at
information regardingthe anonymous calls. also
1-.~ceive&#39;d ct¬.-l ::_"jra.&#39;n requesting thathe ca1_&#39;L uhic n he did ".*.:.r7 founi
7gm.
u._=.t &#39;;:as_Of it the He thereafter, refund ts give goalie any further infon.1ationia.t this tine. However, shortly
-Iii"; _--&#39;§_
from Boise and advised_that the
Army hadreleased astory
through Prigarlier
r 92 AI92 L» .<-
Ceneral 5I&#39;IPJ1I.§ revealing the
Fr. Ji92. 1 E -M. -21. .. ..-41
on theplane?" and answered, "Yes, they were."I- ollovn&#39;.ng this
-_1;»
£&#39;.:.d engaged been on. In viewof this release, requested ca} led
as per his earlier request and was infomed that "f had received another anonymous phone cell at which time the 5.;nr:y B-25 carrying Captain _"..&#39;. ID3CI"I Lieutenant and 2?.C
s-i &#39;1 th tthe
.9; #3. r-_; .1:.&#39; air ~-_;-x. :&#39; .,._z., &#39; I J. 51. _.__&#39;-?; qwsrs .1,1 :=92. -fi:4 2;-
which was,
do=.-in with 20 ..""...&#39;n. shells and also been
that _w;oulc1
shot down
_d.
that the
with 20
this information
an;-:&#3
alleged disc
Ifazrine plane
m.m. shells.
fragments
the v: ice" had
found oz;
The voice
be called back to liright Field
&#39;.:.=l-Zedhewhy vzas piving out
not for that the
"L-. ere they carrying any
to
for him
- been sh L
45. 1.1. .. --Vi ff?11> &#39; ;.-:-. J ...92"&#39;
1} -r
which BRO F3. and TLVIDSCI-I
one question
Iaxinier had
H -C-i . -1. -x &#39; -.2: _-_ ...,--
confidential assignment
we
"t. on to
on Tuesday. Then the caller
replied that
it
the benefit of the newspapers, but that he was interested in seeing es information got back to ew Jersey. The voice also informed
&#39;t time that one L» -> "hi"
Cihtr
of the two persons who had.been talking to and
"&#39;
= decided to find out or if _ha¢1 left t0 J11. oca e lit ._ at,-the Junset Theatre an came to hOtel and met and ? - ihad
now left
for Alaska.
As aresult
of this
latter bit
of infdhmutior.
=1
&#39; ey Lwere ! unable to
t<5 1
locate yphone and left saying that .~.ewould try to find where out was and he thatwould call them tomoiow S
and that
they would
go out
to Maury
Island at -12
-
that time.
After eft,
:1 _-u -..
1 J
i
.Q37,?! 92
i
F.ii Gui.
1,5; l_l*_
_.&#39;a.nd _,v.&#39;ent to the andtool»: themto Din
iatest
-» -__
the-
a
-
press releases and had a discu;
mous phone calls. nameof P-{ajor
In the course of this discussion Public Relations Officer at
Augustl9 I 191;?
.;;
there :: .1ct
.9 13 -92&#39; &#39;1.
E
_ _dField
theé 7C £i.I&#39;1 the
mentioned
8.5
.» "" ;921 .?-&#39;being one of the officers interested in the investigation.
i.
them
&#39;i&#39;hcr~ ey rem} ing the
:1 -.in
l
_
"nu
Following thisdiscussion with at
ishich lime
tates they stillrefused todivulge any _£&#39;m1rt information, andé7C .aer returned to the Hotel for the night.
, n
On Sundaymorning,August3, 191$? , -appez-ired
rv
f3? 1
Hotel roomandtold themthat he hadreceiveda. letter from which
E
in effect
é __. L.
~.
r.
&#39;- ighuay. jfnile the four
and called I.fa_jor.at
of the.-nthen went to breakfast
excused
Eimseli"
ilcChordField and ar1&#39;ar.ged an appoint.";1er~t to me-w
&#39;him. at the Hotel lobb; at 11:00 A,&#39; Ii. They then tool-cvsecretaqy toher home where- icked &#39; upatypewriter and then drove and -1-lack é C
Es i
k.
to
the
Hotel.
day and he replied entire
=
j
W
"
»&#39;-|_ .
1+"&#39;. .-.=.".
.-r
3
house in SouthTacoma and
picked her up and the four of them then went to breakfast on the South Tacen;
I: M &#39;~ .&#39;-rX;&#39;~ YL OQ.-J ;
s
a letterwithhimbuthedidnot show it to or-
Thethreementhendroveto_secretary s
-_-4 ;.r it _
7.
said
I&#39;ll be out of town for three or four
"Take care of my business.
days." had
<.1. ,c_ *1 |*.1.&#39;
at the
business
. . LE ..92 ii. 1.. ,4! -_;
that he was not.
and that
if
He further
stated that {.8 was sick of the
he was ever contacted
by the
Anny or the authori"ins
he was going to deny ever having seen anything and claim to be "the biggest liar ever li1fUL!d1&#39; &#39;~".&#39;h/-.1-+&#39;|92_r :92P+a&#39;r92 vntswrni nrr &#39;l&#39;n |&#39;.l>&#39;1c> I-Int":-92_| rm?-+. 7? m :&#3 1 . Q I-Ill92-I!. lJ_L-Ji¢Jj,92!92-IA ],92-r92-ILLL JJJ-LJCJ 92I92I 92Ill92-I l$92I92!92.r-L. ll92/V l §§ -&#39;§r92 -&#39;92l w in the lobby
&#39;afternoon.
car to a
and they went in
nroceeded to tell Major rd occurred in Tacoma regardin Follow :&#39; ing this,
coffee
shop in South Tacoma xncre
the entire story of the incidents which &#39; IL.rcd~ ay the &#39; K &#39; s t oi,~v since &#39;1.l&#39;1Cl ook
&#39; L Ha or
him to that duced 0t % gg andsu ested entirestoryof wat hadoccurred.did
"oaciz to
-. the. .."otel and intro-
healsotell "a_jor t&#39;:" , .
so. iiajor
after looj-zing
at the fragments .&#39;;hlCh were still in the room suggested that they the Smelter near Tacoma as he believed the slag at the Smelter would i. . distinct
resemblance to these fragments.
drive out U-.2 oe_.r a
The three men then drove tc
L.
Li.
,,
?t&#39;;
.:"=_d tn. &#39;;lc=_;&#39; arusnotedtc.bede nitely si ~¢&#39;lar to the fragments.&#39;hIlc&#39;
and had
"left in the iictel room. i&#39;he_;: than rct92.1rncd to the -hotelroomand
1 ft t"
._-.1. IE
eyasked himif hewas going totakethem tonaury island the 7
irport
.&#39;
" er
c ing tteir bars tour:
where his pl ne was oar./ed and t ien c
&#39;-&#39;3. &#39;_R
&#39; Y
About an hour after
...
himself back lo Scrttle.
drew
his arrival
,0
.
in
-qeattle,
which was
Q-3, with
approzzimaifely 7:30 1&#39;. !I.,_Of the aopeared at home _- in Boise,ldahoin the hoiseIltatesman andwhichwaswrittenby f0llo.:iu;§
1%.?_
.:- _¢..1_
&#39;-1*» .r_ tu-
Is*»;_~jff ...,, » _." ~_f &#39;1 -_.~r*. &#39;*_ _ -@..
theI&#39;18 containing: V the JSpZ.p¬I Associated Press story which had ori;-_in:;tc
_aJmission
.I
to him that fraeenents had been carried
CaptainD1.VIDtJU?-I onthe fatal .3-2&5: flight. in
7
I _
l t , .r <.l
this t1..&#39;.&#39;lC continue-.; to
refuseto give anystatements for the Pressandtold_ -13..
_
by Lieutenant
that he ;..&#39; &#39;3 tlaced
-.92&#39;
:.,,.
1.».
IQ; F. ~. . go" .
i k I
August 2&#39;19}, 191.7 all of .,_.&#39; 1»... .v <&#39;. I . ".
$1.
Federal Bureau to the
,§
incidents in
-
Portland, San advised by the
M
by this
T
.~~-
a couple
Field and asked him
&#39; states
if
was "setting
that,-
there
-
atrap
for h1.rn"-
forth
er
7c
Tacoma from Thursday
afternoon, July
31, last
until Sunday
3, last. Acopy
of this
deposition is
now in possession of the
writer &#39;
Copies of this communication are being sent to the Butte, Francisco and Chicago Offices for their information only. Unless Bureau to the contrary, instant investigation is considered closed
office.
Intelligence Officer, IvIcCho-rd Field, Ft. Lewis, Washington advised a the weekly O.N.I.-S.I.D.-F.B.I. Intelligence conference that the Public Relations Officer 1,, at Hc hord Field had received atelephone call from an individual at Army Air pI
Forces Headquarters at liashington, D. C., during
further did
he had no additional
in this
matter and
Special Agent
bash? r92o!lD _ LSVU -LIUJURJ-I-J
DA}! ;PHL:ZEK
1 E. is .:&#39;3 &#39; -r -
100- 18945 CC Butte
}&#39;_*I.~ "&#39;
E?"
.
Portland San Francisco
Z Chicago
-1?! 1 w; . i ».
- T, ,¢.. -11.-
that he
it.
.
£21:uitco" B.
:-..:; &#39;
,.]§§ -If
information
&#39;- Vary truly yours,
J f, . s sS-&#39;3VP _ .3 J. 92 ~.~ u *.~g:;.4 ._ .___,
-4
Public Relations
related that
-q__,. ilI-V "&#39; &#39;
-ei1-. n , ._._ »a 4-.7-,l92, .55.; j F;
which call the
Officer requested was obtain tosigned a statement fI Om "hi¢h could be published and thus publicly close the matter. Captain not handle
,. . 4, .
5% c
jrstated that
For the information of the Bureau, Captain?
"11 TE. -1- . .,.
3- . -km- -&#39; . Isa; f, _ _._.,. v
E.-
the
and is being forwarded herewith to the Bureau. It should be noted that this t deposition is in no way as complete as the statement taken by the writer above and any setting out of this deposition in this communication would be superfluous-
rl .3". 1"
=~.
of Investigation
morning, August
r. ll &#39;92
6
hands of
advises that on Friday, August 8, 19147, heappeared before I-awyer_ at the County--City Building, Seattle and made a deposition of the facts relating
:5; 1
_" 1 r. 5.1 1. gr:
in the
callednat &#39;1icChord
pwai iny recent information the informed that him _1adconcerning not incident. yet been contacted but that the £
iv 1
X.
his information
of days later he
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and says:
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beingfirst dulysworn, ohoath,deposes _
This
I. "is . _; 1|
_
is a narrative
statement
as to what took place
Qhurqanw J&#39;|-|0Tl l92&#39;r nn!&#39;.l&#39;I Sundae. l921m1qf. I~92_ n-I 92-A-1&#39; 73¢-J 92.qnIIn--5 Ivvna-n I92-0;, Ib92nt,92a-I-III
in
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Thursday I
received
a telephone
call
from Tacoma from
a
The gistofthisconversation was thathethoug
._ __ , t would be a good idea for me to some téc &#39;i a_£mq_and listen to the b7C story or two men whose names we;-e Q : This ahead met two times previous - once on 3&#39;uly at the office or the P.I. in Seattle tor a very brief time and the -rgam second time in Boise, Idaho when I was passing through on one or inf....92 .3. AZ-92. Ir r -1%-. l Y . A I
hi? trips,
In this conversation with.v0n
the phone, I
made tl
statement that it would be impossible for me to go over to Tacoma due to my going out to Salt Lake City the next morning. He said that he would fly over from Tacoma "d -ick me up at Boeing Field
EL -19 I agreed tothis proposition troma M LO&#39;c1 Ilanded not 7C and wenewback and Barry&# Airport. cedu attheairortlad who r
,, | *1"
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, 5,; II . -A-[5 1 "- &#39;1 .4 _
_at
the Boeing Field
We were pi k dhrove the two oi us into
&#39;502 -
p p the Winthrop Hotel.
We went
up to Room
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100 feet
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there
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circular
the
in shape, and it
center
of
appeared that
each as he could
see the
sky
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through this hole.
He also mentioned that on the inside
I
negligible astheyappeared to hover overa given egot. One or
circle
that
er
or the hole,
portholes
were visible.
these objects appeared to be in trouble. over and appeared to make contact. Atter
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approximately
11.5. &#39;
two minutes, itrose
At this
7;
seemed to throw
to its
time the object a lot
of
debris
that tron
of the
Their
speed was
Another o Ject came making this contact tor
original
appeared
one oi Sc me
objects then disappeared tron view. landed broke in the wheelhouee or the boat,
;,.
the
ot
position.
to be in trouble port-holes.
this
debris
These that
the spotlight,
and
theklaxon.While thisdebris wasfalling, my boyandHr.Q
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got off the boat and hid under some logs. This debris that e killed our dog and a sea gull. I ashed Hr. _whnt was done wit. the dog. Be made the statement they threw the dog into the water.
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went
out
This story was toldtoMr.Q this Island to check on this
to
2 iecesof eitherrock or metalonthe_shore. Hr
av p J? state d that
he was investigating
a
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he was over
this story.
rrom aiir.Hnois.
Evanstcn, Ill
ved a
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there
investigating
on
This disk was or the same shape
.
Mr.
stated
tor he asto thereas tah
The g st of this letter
letter from Mr. land
h e receiu-&#39;
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was that 2.-Ir.
also a
lira
or these fragments that were found on iiaury island. alsc
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he also saw a disk.
at thispointiir. gels;-itied
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who thenextday . He verified the
and contour as the objects explained by rir.
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C tact or the damage to the boat,also to the tact that thereappear
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Maury Island,
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made the
statement
in
the letter
that
the
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e es fra ents and that would an-. I varsity failed to analyze tn . please investigate the story. Mr check for $290.90 to take care 9! any Bree-H86 that he mieht 141011;
. was
sent_awestern Union
_.while making this investigation. MI; _had made a telephone call to Hamilton Field t
contact a
Captain Davidsonand a
Lieutenant Brown,whowere with
asking them would the" make ._ &#39; tripto rantoalso listen tothis story or andq a A-2 intelligence
at Hamilton Field,
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should Boeing
had picks up
like to field,
time
pick up Seattle.
I mde
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the&#39; hotel room to " "&#39;
some metal that n Maur y Island
the hotel room. lir._
At this
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that_1E
o get do
departed.
statement
,
to Mr.
was to
in
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..,;"92 back to Tacoma andI drove myownca?backto Tacoma. AfterI had put my car in the garage at Tacoma wen up to the Winthrop Hotel i. &#39;=. .&#39; and in the row at that time v.-as Hr. ii Hr. --_ _-&#39;* and Eap F .3} b ?C Davidsonfrom ArmyIntelligence. LieutenantBrownwasdownstairs getting
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all
facts
of
until
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sandwiches and coffee.
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the
released
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Mr
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both officers
statement
that
take
back
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the
thought
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as to whet they
he would Hamilton
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would
had told
only his own story I 1*
when Lieut.
and Lieut.
Brown
Brown came back, the mane a statement
hold in
be
strictest
that
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by Mr
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like
to
all
the facts,
thought.
obtain
relating
asked for the opinion
Lieut.
some of
not
Brown made the
these
fragments
to
Field.. -
Capt.
whether
Field immediately, to be at Hamilton
to
Davidson stay
over
and Lieut. night
in
Bro-an were debati Tacoma
or
leave
as the B-25 they were flying was Field the next day for the Air Show.
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and Mr. madetheirappearan in
Davidson and Brown. &#39;
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After an hour or so Mr. _and
room with
a plan in mind of the four
morning Saturday!
for breakfast
&#39;i&#39;hat evening Friday!
linileft
the
of us meeting
the neit-
and going out to Maury Island. there was a message tor me to call
this particular telephone number that was on the message. I calla this number and was asked by the art to please call them from a pa stat on. p . a
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Thisartywas a Mr 3 onthe_ Hetold me "I most certainly am do!gmyself outof&#3 go
story but I thoughtyououghtto knowthat somebody hasbeenoalli
taken "place in your room since you arrived."
repeated
taking either
in
of all
To verity
back to me discussions that I felt
place
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both
wasn&#39;t sure that this was the same B-25 e two Intelligence officers had lett in last night. Mr. then again called licChord Field and talked to a Colonel d the fact was verified again that the two pilots were
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left
a very bad state of concern. Approximate
this paper and giving us a blow-by-blow description
15*-v1| :7:~ i
the
Davidson and Lieut.
and a hitch-hiker.
engineer
myself
ly anhour laterMr. & the hotel room. I still
hotel
also
the two men in the ship were oapt.
Hr. _and
K t gr&#39;-
at approximately &#39;8 o&#39;clock in the
our hotel room and acquainted us crashed. alsothathehadcalled 15?withthetactgabtheB-25uphad
C morning, Hcohord
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this,
Hr.
had only been
our room.
lir._also
made the statement that there was e leak
from the switchboard
operator
or our room had been tapped.
I asked Hr.Qwhy hewas tippisngu
oft
with
this
information.
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and said if I wouldcall him
have some
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additional information
for
8:30 that evening. He told me that
I an
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that this
This anonymous
fnn hhn
this person calling
caller made
nawnnannrn_ A11
!.nformation_gets back,to
Tam
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New Jersey."
After I finished the conversation with thug I
aw.
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Mr. asked
interest was.
Fr
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I called
was shot down.
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Mr- called up
that evening,
ment Mr. qould be called to Wright Field Tuesday. This anonymous cal er made the statement to Hr. -that this B-25
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by me or
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opinions at
this time
wen
dhim 7
were voiced eithe:
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shop the on_Tacoma Elghway where thisWinthrop complete storywhere was related 1 then drove back tthe Hotel Major
him by me. We
was introduced to Mr. by me and again listened to l e Mr. d I d arted from the Winthrop P story. Hr.approximately n ep Hots Sunday afternoon at 4:30. Clhul T7
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analyzed.
and as!-ted for ed-Titionel samplesstating that he
later .-"wrote
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1.;-&#39;: <1 a; -s aJ.ter the first disc stories . us by phone. He told us not to tell the news
I ;.aI&#39;t of June e
contacted
papersetout the fragments and he would pay for an exclusivestory the i rag::.e-nts could be from a flying
.
Justafter our phoneconversationewrote
disc.
letter to -
getting; out some notes etc.regard ng . ag!. indicating they could have come from flying discs.
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The next thing; we heard was about the first
of July when we got s
-
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Ocean Hess telegram from Chicago asking anabout these tlyingé I Trans disc gragments. We toldthem togorget theentire matter.
The next we heard oi these fragments was when we were celled by é;71¢ meet withhim in the&#39;.-Hotel iinthrop onEuly31,14&#3
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we sent to be analyzed.
and true
story
as regards
our connection
with
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and Lieutenant Frank HiXBrown of the Fourth Headquarters, AAF interviewed Francisco, San Portland on Ju y 27, 19h?. While in Ihrtland they Dick
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were in
92la ankin, an experienced afonnation that Davidson
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pilot, who
of ten flying discs and Brown had also
"pilots whowere among the first
had reported that he observed, on June lh, over Bakersfield, interviewed the
California. Richards added following four experienced
ness rline the
to report seeing discs, Kennethi rnold, bnsi
irom Boise, Idaho; Captain E. J?§Smith, a co-pilot;Ralph§Stevens, United Ai
and DaveRJohnson, aviation editor, Idaho"Statesnan." In order to determine
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with your
concerning newspaperreports of flying discs .
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purpose of
tiese interviews
Richards contacted
Hajor General
Twining of&#39;$right Field
Ohio, and from him gained the impression that the AAF instituted this investigation_ to wash out the disc_reports since they are definitely not of AAF origin. On Friday, August l,the plane in Davidson and Lieutenant Brown, were flying,
which AAF investigators, Captain crashed at Kelso, Washington and both
were killed. The wreckage was screened by RAF Intelligence from McChord Field. that The "Tacoma News Tribune" and through them toe United Press put out astory the plane was carrying parts of adisc which had struck aboat wned by Farold Dahl and Fred Chrisman. It has also been inferred that this plane was sabotaged
to prevent
these disc
parts from
being examined.
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not carrying
parts of
the Bureau
adisc
has reflected
and there appears
to be
that this
plane was
no substantiation
defi
of a
charge.
_For forth in
crash. No
your further information there is attached a blind memorandum more detail
the results
further inquiry
of the
is being
investigation surrounding
made in this matter.
the above
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a boat
had struck
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whichwasallegedly carrying parts of a. disc which y Harold
Dahl and Fred Chrisman had crashed on August
when interviewed
by Bureau Agents,
advised in
19147,that in the early part of June, a gravel pit on iiauri l 19 -L7; they picked up s"omestrange roe}: formations from Island, Washington. They sent a oi ar box of these formations to ne
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"15? fte the flyinrndisc stories appeared 2 .uring thelatter partof June, contacted them bytelephone saying hewould _ ii _ payfor an exclusivestory if the materialsthey hadsenthimwerefragments of
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On July31 andAu;~_;u:st e.1, total of
received by and giving information
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fragments.
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five anonymous calls were
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killed Captain Davidson and Lieutenant Brown,inferring that this was done lli nce
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Reference is
Boston teletype
to be
which were
P:
informant, has the metal
July 18,
advised that
1947.
aspcctographic
particles referred
to. They
were
of
originally thought
MET to determine whether part of aliner inquiries resulted
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to be of some metallic alloy.
or not
the particles
could have
in asmoke stack or some other in positive information that
been originally
eight inches in diameter and three sixteenth: of an inch was felt that one piece falling from agreat height would
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part of
its heat
and probably
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~iron
cylinders of
la ,_; _:
did not
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so conclude
a
revealed cylinder,
in thickness. have still retained
smashed when it hit
It
the ground.
not identify by name, recalled thatcast
similar measurements to the
would have
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part of the steam engine. These the particles did not come from
atrain or locomotive. Measurements cf the four pieces examined that they had most likely been originally all part of one hollow
gs;
.
Bureau dated
The scientist examining the particles concluded that if they had come through the air from any great altitude in as small pieces as they were found then most of the heat would have been taken from them by the time they reached the ground and fires would not have resulted, It is noted they landed approximately 700 feet from a railroad track and inquiries were conducted by
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ordinary iron cast which had been subjected avery to £6 high degree cf heat,The heat caused scales to beformed the on castiron Vai determined
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W. U. HLTHHW3, nae at a fern house near the scene of
however, it
was known that HAHILIOH AFS wasaware of the incident
and
would notify Sq. B. At 070a PST Capt. LITTRELL departed in e C-45 for KHLSO. At 0746 PST Sq Bres contacted by phone and given a flush report. At 0905 PST CAPT LITTPELL phoned and informed that he hnd placed CLP?AIH PGRJBERG in charge of Army personnel proceeding to the scene of the crash. search was
necessary as
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tho exact
location or the crash and had reported finding one ! body in the wreckage. CAPT. LJTTRELL prepared to fly Sgt&#39;sTAP? and ¥ATH3n3 to HCGHOR9 FIELD for nedionl attention, arriving at 0945 P37. The survivors stated that they believed neither the pilot nor cc-pilot has pereohuted Iron the plane. The osuse of the incident was at this time determined to be a fire
in the left engine. believed classified
CAPT *gTTR2LL was infcrneo ey 5;t. IAFF that he documents had
boon aboard
the plane;
was instructed to take necessary precautions. at HCCHQBDF1¬LD carrying the two survivors and
C$FT F3?3BLEG
An ambulance moi tic plane took than to the hospital.
Inteagpgstion revealed that the left engine had caught fire inthe power section and flcmcs and smoke had spread to the flight deck almost inmedq ore: chief,
KAIHEGS, assisted
TA?F in attaching his
chest
pac; and TLHF abandonedthe plane at an estimated altitude of 10,300 ft this fact is doubted but ls not considered necessarily relevant}. nsr¢:1o helped tho pilot and cc-pilot attach their cheat packs all persennel had been nearing the harness! and as he left the plane one annrc that the on-pilot
was preparing
to th92 beet recollection the odhtrol
to follow.
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of PATBERS,was partially
wheel with
his left
Lo leave and,
standing and holding
hand. 2ATnEb&#39;Sstatenents indicate
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before hitting from where
the ground snore itexploded
he, IAFF,
landed. e
lit in
and burned about one ! mile
atree,
and not
knowing how
to
release his parachute of the quick-detachable kind, cut himself loose from the harness with his pocket knife. he kicked and struggled and eventually jumped to the ground, receiving ajolt on impact but as unable to guess hoe for
he had
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or pert
fallen. He
then fclloeod
to a fern house, arriving erter plenu he Just before
atire thrown
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the crash and eas injured. "Sgt. IL?! then led an ambulance to Sgt. HATEEKB who ens subsequently taken to alocal hospital. At 0610 ?3T an attempt ins node to telephone Sq. Bat HAHILICH FIELD but no answer was received;
cleared the and burn. .
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Flare; were going of! en; he thought beet to loeve the etrean nearby and rclloaod it uptil he cone to a house and _arouled the oooupente. 3ccn iA?F arrived at the samehouse end, being un0! yerde auey. ecene. He heard a
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Hcanuhile, CAPT?dHS3¬RG and four {4}
cnlieted non departed IELSO at 0830 P3? for ecenc of the crush. Thor were transported by the HA3HI§GTJHSTATEPGLICEwho knew the exact location of
the plane 8°O9&#39;H - l22°45&#39;W!. The ground party determined upon arrival
at the eoene,that too ! bodicewerein the wreckage.Indication: led to the Belief
that tho cc pilot
was efirc
then Be left
the plane an instant
before impact. The pilot : romaine were found in the wreckage. Prelininery inveetigeticn by CAP? FQRSBERGdieclceed the plenee lert wing
about one hundredtwenty-five tione or the plane.
The loft
25! yards from the widely eonttored portwin; vat intact
and had rn;:r&#39;nt1; torn
off just outboardcf the left enginebeforeimpact. 1;; frrwrrd portion of the wing stub was melted but the fukf two third! indicated {»ct it nrd&#39; ripped loose tron the inhcerd eeotic: of the wing. elhe uir: leading edge not undamaged. The navigation and landing 1i;hte&#39;irre unbrokon. The -llnn-.. l-LUTUIJ
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led
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Sir.
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of fact. 1
cansayema
a short
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some time.
nu
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ano
time
in
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flying disc
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any basis
andwasin the Pt Adams district
onJuno 24th theday the
paper
in regards to the so called
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of 3oise Idaho claims hesew n /5L
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with
mo at the
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time
1 can asure
you
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shape.
with
a bright
hear any noise as you would from a plane. the tail
end looked like
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tob
surface. I
did not
out there was an object in
hand of a clock
shifting
from
side
to
side like ebin megenet. 1 ere speed as far as i know seemedto be greater.ih&n anything I ever saw. lest vein I rot of the objects they were etandinv on edge Banking in e Cloud.
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Walter
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had received
from anindividual inLos Angeles indicating thathehad seen a flying saucer leave the ground within his view and which
letter
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from another planet. I
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this
Office
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RE: FLYING DISCS Dear
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Refer .e Pho nix letter to Bureau, dat ed September 9, 19I.?,oned,REPORTS OFFLYING DISCS, "for the sttention of Assistant
Director D
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then srepresentative oftheAirForce _
nce fromHamilton Field,Czclifo a andSpecial Agent
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object
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security
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represent-st-ive
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when questioned byhissuperiors concerning the
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amcious
concerning thismatter. Hr& -res furnished thesubstance of &#39; the interview, as set forth in lett
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191.9,captioned"FlyingDiane.
It in believed that the reference appearing in the first - referenced letter to the Bureau Le incorrect. Complete details
1.-
line of your concerning the
matter referred to in your referenced communicationappear in e letter from
mb r 9 , youroffice datedSeptember h, 194?,andnotVSeptc
1910.
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in order
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attached letter
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memorandum be forwarded canto thePhoenix Office, authorizingoffice that to 576 f92u&#39;nish attached the memorandum to Hr.
OSI representative,
Phoenix, Arizona.
Background
$.
In July 191.7; was Jointly interviewed by Special Age;-1t*| Bureau !gent! and , A-2 represen 57C from " lton Field, California. The purpose of the interview was to secure from
Hr. &infor-mation and photographs ofeflyingdisc, which had been sighted and photographed
by Rhodes.
"The complete in the
results of
attached memorandum
the interview
submitted by
llr._ OSI
g Hr._ - Force
to return
contained
facts relating to this interview, which Office at San Francisco. According to
referredabove, to been has questioned concerning this matterb7
superiors and
he has advised them
matter. According
3.,
events are
Office.
representative atPhoenix, Arizona, has requested
the Phoenix Office to furnish him complete are to be subsequently forwarded to the $1 by his
and subsequent
the Phoenix
that his
ta has
recollection is
"hazy" on
the
apparently now requested the Air
the photographs,
which were
previously obtained
from him.
o Re commendation
It is
recommended that
the Phoenix
Office be
attached myhe -. .forwarded by them -. .-to Er. - llii O51 --
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several citizens
in the
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Alexandria, Louisiana, have recently reportedly seen flying discs. The Alexandria, Louisiana daily paper has carried numerous articles concerning this. At arecent meeting of the Young Hens Bsiness Club in Alexandria, amember suggested that since Alexandria, Louisiana is known as aconvention the club should try promoting a convention of flying saucer sears. This particular comment appeared in the Alexandria paper and was picked up by the AP lines.
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city,
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a 76 large number of requests regarding convention the flying of saucer sears mar! from parts of the United States. l£r. states that the interest of the people Special Agent
that since
is evidenced flying saucer
by their inquiries about convention particulars, seers and want to attend such a convention. "This gentleman
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that in
they have
view of
received
stating they the volume
are
of inquiries
coming in, it appears that the YHBCwill have to hire an employee to handle all the correspondence. Itmight be noted that he advised arepresentative of the
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aconvention
were held.
has inquired interested in
as to plans of a flying furnishing an observer if
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the roof
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the time residence
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absent
time that the
fire
in question had taken place near Scranton, Pennsylvania and__1;aÂŁ1,__og:_g11r&#39;
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had been made by
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ash from afriend, Vania, through the mail.
time headvised that he had received the sample of Wayne County,/Pennsy1Ariel is about one mile &#39; 7 south Hesaid that Lake
house had
six months
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of South Canaan, nearScranton, Pennsylvania. He stated that_ burned about
during e storm and that alarge house which had -
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the ground
that he
in less
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opinion that
the ash
might be
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is the fact that mass of the ash
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apart
n11,1 out tnat
of the
than
been present
of amilitary
had occurred
at night
roof and ignited the
an hour.
during the
fire but
flare or
a"flying
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associates in
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characteristics of
for aconsiderable remained ignited
that
some types of
period. He for aperiod
saucer". the
flares
stated that
the
oi twelve
hours.
He also stated that he did not think there had been an explosion but that a missile loud noise- had probably been caused by the vacuum created as the or object struck the roof. He added that there remains aquarx ty of the
ash, amountingto one bushel, at
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the fire
these details had been mrnished letter by from -at he thewas time asample 5 6 of theash was forwardedanalysis. for He said that of thepersonal 7 engineering field
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object had struck the
premises atLake Ariel.
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rational. He
discounted the
of ameteor
the house
the basis
theory that
of the
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that he had been employed by the Atomic
Energy Commission at Oak Ridge until aportion
chemical analysis
made by the City
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quiries
be directed
to the
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of the
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identity of
Inasmuch as there is
apowder
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conduct relative
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the Bureau&#39;s
being conducted in this
to flares
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records
inquiry concern-
or dust used to catch
is being" forwarded the to Bureau Laboratory for any interest
Laboratory may desire to
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The files thisL y letter received August 11+,of 194&#39;?
matter. I~1o*-&#39;-rever, the ash residue obtained from the 7
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were negative
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the possibility
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Naturalization Service
requested-of this
M4
and suggested that anyfurther in- b
State Police.
ing * liketise office reflect that of Immigration
on
Chemical Laboratory.
that at the suggestion of the City
- authorities, he hadwritten to
u c
had struck
or in
or study the
connection rrith
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