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My belief is the majority of people in West Windsor recognize that, understand that. That’s why even after making that a big issue in the campaign, I won, and I didn’t want to win by telling a lie, because there’s no point in doing that. So people need to realize we have to choose the best out of all the bad options.

WWP: One of the interesting things I noticed is that some of the people who I have seen over the years talking about not wanting more houses in West Windsor were some of the same people at the planning board meetings saying, “No more warehouses.” I think that there’s a lot of people who are going to be unhappy no matter what.

HM: Exactly.

WWP: Development happens on a parcel—that’s the way it works in New Jersey. The developers have the hammers, right?

HM: People need to realize that. The developers have the control and the laws of the state are not favorable to the to the towns. The Municipal Land Use Law doesn’t give too much power to the mayor, or the council or the planning board. It is what it is.

I mean, I met someone in transportation a couple of weeks ago and we were talking. He was in New Jersey a long time ago, then went overseas and recently came back. I was explaining to him I moved here in 1994 and how much the township has grown since ’94.

He had a very interesting question. He asked, “How many new roads have you built?”

I don’t think any. I mean, we did build New Village Road and the continuation of Village Road. Other than that, I don’t see any major significant new roads or new projects that would alleviate traffic.

Now, if you go from a township of 10,000 or 15,000 residents to 30,000 with the same roads, you’re definitely going to get at least 75% more traffic, if not double. And that’s what has essentially happened.

People keep saying, “oh this (warehouse project) will put a traffic burden on other towns nearby,” which is true, but when I look at it, West Windsor has a lot of traffic on Route 1. About 95% of that doesn’t originate or end in West Windsor and just passes through. It’s the same with Route 571. The same with the train station.

I mean, we have been supporting people coming from all neighboring towns, especially before the Hamilton train station was built. For many years people have been driving through West Windsor who don’t live in West Windsor, and we have never complained. We accommodated them.

So this is the same thing. I mean, if East Windsor is building warehouses on our border, those trucks are going to come through West Windsor.

There are two big stores in Quakerbridge Mall that are closed and there’s talk about converting them into warehouses or housing. If they’re converted into warehouses, those trucks can easily come on Clarksville Road. There’s nothing I can do about it. And there’s nothing that the people who are yelling and shouting can do about it.

So at least this way, we have the ability to control what happens on our side of the boundary of Quakerbridge Road, and it has given us the ability to talk about it. I mean, since this discussion started, I have noticed so many more trucks in town. I never noticed them before.

It’s not that they were not there before. I see trucks on Clarksville Road, and I sometimes follow them to see where they’re going. Only one or two ended up at McCaffrey’s (on Route 571 in West Windsor), but most of them go either to Route 130, Quaker Bridge Road or somewhere else. A lot of them are going to Walmart in East Windsor.

So we have had our share of supporting traffic from other towns and there’s nothing wrong in saying that this (the Bridge Point property) is a big piece of land and Attention:

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WWP: Like you said. People are trying to deal with the symptoms, but not the problem. There has been talk by some officials and organizations saying, “okay, we have to address these issues on a statewide level, on a regional level.” But there are no mechanisms that will allow for that. There’s nothing in the state Municipal Land Use Law that allows for planning to be done regionally, is there?

HM: No. There’s absolutely nothing in the law. But see, equally important is that there has to be a willingness on the part of the leadership to take on tough issues and make tough decisions. Currently everybody’s afraid to make decisions. People who are unhappy yell the loudest, and people are happy stay home. So there’s a general unwillingness to make any tough decisions. I mean, the thinking is just, “let’s pass the can down the road, and it’s somebody else’s problem.”

WWP: The Municipal Land Use Law was written in the mid-1970’s. Have there been any significant changes? Have there been any tools dded that allow the state along with counties or municipalities to plan on a regional level to give them more control over what goes on?

HM: Not that I’m aware of. And the even now, Gov. Murphy probably couldn’t get those passed through the state Assembly and the Senate. That’s why they’re (the governor’s administration) just issuing guidelines, simply because none of the lawmakers want to make tough decisions and make developers unhappy.

You should always demand that the people who can do something about the problem do something about the problem. Not come to the people who can’t do anything about it and say, “You do something about it.”

There’s very little I can do, and my job is to protect West Windsor. My job is to look after the best interest of township as long as I’m not being unfair or don’t cheat anybody else. The township is still looking at all the options on the table, and I think this is still the best option for the township.

WWP: I’m assuming that one option that wasn’t on the table was to have most of that site be commercial offices or retail?

HM: Commercial offices and retail is, and has been, allowed there, but nobody is building office buildings. We have 4 million square feet of office buildings sit-