Impediments in the path of liberation

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Deepak Desai August 2006, Vol. : 1, Issue : 10, Conti. Issue No.: 10

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Publisher, Owner & Printed by : Deepak Desai on behalf of Mahavideh Foundation, 5, Mamtapark Society, Usmanpura, Ahmedabad-380014 Gujarat, India.

EDITORIAL It is held that a life as a human being is very difficult to attain even for a celestial being.

Why? The reason for this is that salvation—absolute enlightenment and liberation is only possible through life as a human being. However, for this one must have made a meaningful goal as a human being. In the absence of meeting a true Gnani one continues to remain in agnan—ignorance of the Self and in that state one wastes away precious human life in creating and running after meaningless goals, not understanding the critical value of having become a human being. After meeting an AtmaGnani—one who has experienced the Self—one can attain AtmaGnan—knowledge of the Self and thereafter, one makes a firm decision that except for ultimate liberation he does not want anything in this world. Having embarked on the path of liberation such a traveler faces multiple impediments and pitfalls partly due to lack of precise understanding and partly due to carryover of past life practice effects. These impediments pose great danger and if not well understood could derail one off the main path of liberation despite having embarked upon it as a result of fruition of great merit karma.

In this following compilation, the seeker of ultimate liberation—moksha, who has come under the shelter of the Gnani Purush is made aware of the faults that are inherent in the prakruti—the non-Self complex which interacts with the world. Otherwise, it is very difficult for the seeker to find his own faults because these faults are deeply interwoven in his unfolding worldly interaction and thus are not evident to him. So how can one see his own mistake? If he remains in the vicinity of the Gnani Purush then whenever the error arises during a clash with someone, and if his merit karma is such, then the Gnani will warn him of his internal error and grace him with the exact corrective approach. Armed with such awareness and lots of associated internal analysis the follower can uproot the fault from the very ground thus destroying the fault before it becomes a tree. Having accomplished this traveler makes major leaps on the path of liberation. This is the unmatched grace and beauty of the presence and live interaction with a Gnani Purush!

It is obviously evident that, we have not achieved salvation even after infinite life times, since we are still here in this worldly life. Now if we do not fight against these obstructing causes, how will we ever attain liberation? And if these obstructing causes come with extraordinary force and throw us off far from the path of liberation, then when will find the connection with the Gnani Purush again? Therefore, remaining under the shelter of the Gnani with the combination of the unflinching determination of uprooting each and every obstructing cause on the path of liberation, and the constant vantage of the Self, one can definitely run one’s train towards moksha without any impediments. ...continue on next page Subscription :Yearly Subscription - India: 100 Rupees, USA: 10 Dollars, UK: 7 Pounds 15 Years Subscription - India: 800 Rupees, USA: 100 Dollars, UK: 75 Pounds Printer/Press : Mahavideh Foundation, Basement, Parshvanath Chambers, Usmanpura, Ahmedabad-380014

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In the current issue, Gnani Purush Dadashri is alerting and guiding the traveler on the path of liberation who is mired and immobilized in all kinds of faults, with deep compassion.

Each and every Gnan vakya—knowledge revealing sentence, imparts an excellent understanding.

There is one place where one must not see any fault. That place is the place of the Gnani who is the liberator. If you do, you will destroy your entire knowledge of the Self. So how can one progress? When the Gnani points out the faults, the intellect takes it the wrong way and starts seeing the fault of the Gnani and protecting one’s own faults. How can you attain liberation if you protect and rationalize your own mistakes?

It is my ardent prayer that the divine speech of Dadashri that follows will help the reader in attaining the precise clarity and understanding to surmount the huge and grave impediments that exist on the path of the one who has embarked on the path of liberation.

Jai Sat Chit Anand

Impediments in the path of liberation (Please note that great care has been used to convey the exact message of Dadashri. Here ‘Y’ or ‘S’ refers to the awakened Self or the Self. For glossary of the terms, please refer to : www.dadashri.org/ glossary.html and www.ultimatespirituality.org )

One attains the supreme Self by being close to the Gnani Questioner : What is the goal of human life?

Dadashri : That is a very major declaration, only if one understands the importance of the goal; otherwise there are many different kinds of goals. Most people have decided their goal in what they believe as the means for their happiness.

In fact, the goal of human life is to attain and become the supreme Self, starting as a human being. One can become a parmatma— absolute Self in this very human body. This is possible through the darshan—vision and sannidhya—close association with the Gnani Purush. This shows how beautiful the goal of a human being is.Such a goal is for the people of Hindustan, not for the foreigners. This is for the one who has reached the spiritual development that gives an innate understanding of the phenomena of life after life. It is not for those who have not yet arrived at this understanding.

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The one who has suffered disrespect builds foundations for respect Questioner : Is spiritual progress possible only when one is born in a wealthy or royal family?

Dadashri : Yes. He would get respect wherever he goes if he were born in a royal family or in a noble family. If he goes to the inlaw’s place, he would be welcomed with respect. The one, who keeps getting insults from the very childhood, makes up his mind to earn respect, by any means whatsoever.

Thus, his goal changes towards acquiring respect from whatever source and means. He is lost in the fervor of acquiring respect only and is nourished wherever respect is available.

Someone else with some other kind of beggary will not put up or bother with such issues of pride and respect.

A birth in Hindustan has happened on the basis of infinite previous lives. In spirituality on the other hand, foreigners do not understand rebirth—life after life passage of the soul.

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Now the one who has grown up with plenty of respect in all matters has no hunger for respect at an older age. If the hunger for respect—maan—has been satisfied in childhood, then he has no hunger for respect later on.A human life can be destroyed if one has been scarred with contempt in childhood.

In childhood, if one got insulted over and over and never given any respect, and thus has been scorned to the point of rejection, then he makes a firm inner resolution—niyanu for maan— earning respect exclusively.Such a person grows to be a big maani—perpetually hungry for respect and recognition.From the very young age he makes a decision that, now I want to get ahead of everybody and be successful. So he makes this his exclusive goal.

He will say, ‘I will prove that I am better than everybody and would go farther than all’, and he would accomplish this too. Yes, he will sweat for it and will progress further ahead. A person who has been respected as he grew up will not have this extra drive.

Now if one gets lots of respect then his appetite for it would cease. If one gets unlimited respect, than his hunger for respect is fulfilled.

Then he begins to dislike respect given to him.

Do you think people get tired of showing me their respect and reverence? If you get such abundant respect, your appetite for it will be finished, too.

The addiction to savor that which is pleasant, impedes If he gets abused verbally, then the inner passions—kashaya—anger, false pride, deceit and greed—engulf him all over at that moment.

Questioner : How do these passions take control?

Dadashri : They render one unaware.

A person will not have any awareness—relative sense of the self—at that time!

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Questioner : How does one know that passions—kashayas have arisen? What are the signs?

Dadashri : Will not one know when his ego has been hurt? The main culprit that does not allow one to be aware of this is kapat— deceit. This deceit means total darkness—lack of awareness. In other forms of kashayas— greed, false pride, anger—there would be some light—awareness.

Questioner : Please explain all this in detail. This deceit, kashaya, ego…

Dadashri:All these are the obstacles in the path of liberation.

Questioner : How does deceit operate and create a puzzle in this?

Dadashri : Deceit—kapat—makes everything pleasant and acceptable, and thus makes one wander (lose spiritual goal) here, there and everywhere.

Questioner : Where again is the role of deceit in all these wanderings?

Dadashri : Anger, pride, illusion and greed will create fewer obstructions. Deceit will create lot more obstructions. Deceit is not even like the state of worldly self; it is lower than the state of worldly self—sansari. Persons without deceit are saral—straightforward and simple-hearted. Deceitful prakruti—non-Self complex—creates major problems.

Questioner : Where is the role of deceit in the instance of a verbal abuse? W h e r e is the deceit in an instance where a person verbally abused someone?

Dadashri : Deceit is not involved in that.

Deceit makes one take advantage of his own self. These four kashayas are anger-prideillusion and greed, in which the illusion means deceit (the illusion deceives the self). Deceit has become a huge mass. The account that is created is verily of deceit. Everywhere, deceit 3

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binds an account (new karma for repayment— effect in the next life). Otherwise nothing will impede you.

These kashayas would not happen because of this Gnan—Self-knowledge that I have given you. One strays in the zone of kashayas because of the old habits (prior to Gnan) of wanting to taste what’s going on.

Hence one strays there and feeds on them.

This Gnan is such that, deceit will not survive in any person.

Questioner : This deceit prevents the awareness—jagruti?

Dadashri : Anger-pride-illusion-greed also will not let you maintain awareness. Deceit will make one totally unaware. The owner himself will not know what deceit has happened. The owner (person committing deception) himself will not know that he is employing deceit!! In instances of anger-prideillusion-greed one may be somewhat aware.

This deceit kashaya is very deep. Even the doer of the deceit will not be aware that he is doing it.

Questioner : A person who is committing deceit cannot know it then how can one identify it? If one cannot identify it, then how can be rid of this fault?

Dadashri:This is hidden from, not only the doer of the deceit, but everyone else around too. The process of the deceit that happens is not known at all.

Questioner : How can one get rid of these deceitful faults?

according to one’s own opinion and inner design. A person who is doing this would not know that he is doing anything wrong. He simply is not aware that he is doing something wrong.

Questioner : What is included in worldly benefit? Is it considered everything except the goal of salvation—moksha?

Dadashri : The goal of liberation exists after this Gnan of the Self. The problem is with the old habits, which persist. They cast a veil over the self and thus make it difficult for the owner to know that they—the kashayas— indeed exist. The owner has no clue. He is unaware of the greed. A greedy person will never know that, ‘I am greedy.’ Only pride— maan and anger, these two kashayas are guileless, so one can easily know their existence. One cannot identify maaya—illusion that veils the Self. One cannot know of greed either.

Questioner : So mostly this deceit is for advantage in worldly affairs….

Dadashri : Deceit—kapat is very tough.

Deceit is the most difficult nuisance. Now how can it leave by itself? If one stops seeking advantage in worldly situations, then it will leave by itself. Such a person is liberated indeed, no?

Questioner : That is called awareness—jagruti, no?

Dadashri : This is not awareness; I just showed the way out of deceit.

Questioner : How can we know the nature of this deceit?

Questioner : This is beneficial for worldly life and this is beneficial for spiritual progress towards liberation, such an inner demarcation is called awareness, no?

Dadashri : The nature of deceit is like this: to gain advantage in worldly affairs one pulls others into his own opinion and confidence, manipulates and drags others

Dadashri : That is called awareness.

But that kind of awareness will not prevail at all. Deceit prevails in the absence of awareness, no? Even otherwise that old habit has to be

Dadashri : It is very difficult.

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Questioner : One needs to overcome this habit no? How can this habit be broken?

Dadashri : Awareness—jagruti will help. Along with this awareness, the decision and the nischaya—firm resolve, ‘I do not want anything,’ will help.

Dadashri : The habit has been formed already. Now one needs to be done with it, settle with it.

Questioner : This means, one resolves, ‘except for moksha—liberation, I do not want anything?’

fractured, no? The habit! The latt—habitual compulsion—to enjoy worldly pleasures!

Questioner : How? Dadashri : With the utterance of the words, ‘I do not want anything, I am experiencing bliss,’ the latt—the compulsive habit—begins to leave instantly. As soon as you decide, ‘I do not want anything at all’, the compulsion changes.

Questioner : What all is included in relative worldly benefits?

Dadashri : Everything! Even while entering a train, or a bus he does dakho— interferes—behaves as ‘I am Chandulal.’

Everywhere he interferes.

Questioner : Which issues are considered for the mahatmas who have taken Gnan?

Dadashri : All the matters…! He has come from the same situations (from past life).

Everything is firmly consolidated so it is giving fruit (effect) now. With awareness if You do not taste the fruit and even if you taste them while remaining separate as the Self from Chandulal—the relative self, then the correct result will follow. Those fruits are sweet, no?

That is why a human being cannot remain separate. He will taste it (get involved as Chandulal), no? It is very difficult to rise above deceit. Deceit is the only dangerous thing.

Anger-pride-illusion-greed these kashayas can be rid of, but kapat—deceit is tough.

Questioner : So then this need to enjoy worldly pleasures and the deceit stays with it constantly. This then is very difficult to overcome, no?

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Dadashri : Yes, I do not want anything at all. Whatever may come to me but ‘I do not want anything,’ such a resolution will be necessary.

Questioner : In other words, once the decision for moksha—liberation is made, then the train is on the right track?

Dadashri : The decision for moksha has arisen but the decision, ‘I do not want this,’ has to arise, no?

That is why I have instructed everyone to recite, ‘I do not want anything that is worldly,’ five times upon arising in the morning.

This will be the effect the whole day.

The compulsive habit to enjoy the worldly pleasures deludes one.

Questioner : It is very difficult to remain aware when one is enjoying worldly pleasures, no?

Dadashri : Awareness will not stay at that time. When someone greets you with respect and says, ‘welcome, welcome Chandubhai’ that is the inner effect of the sound of the word! And if someone tells you, ‘you do not have any sense’ then what effect will such words have on you?

Questioner : This Akram Vignan is such that at least once it will not let the effect of those words touch the Self—the one who has attained Gnan—within. There arises within the awareness as to whom the words, ‘senseless’ are being addressed to.

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arises. Once this awareness arises then nothing will affect You. The one who becomes aware as to who is being addressed in, ‘welcome, welcome,’ remains unaffected. (This respectful greeting is being given to Chandubhai, the relative self and this is the awareness—jagruti) You have to extract and attain such subtle understanding.

Questioner : This is very necessary.

The breakdown in the continuity of this awareness happens, and is that the reason that all such faults take over the control in the meantime?

Dadashri : All these faults cause the intervening breakdown. That is why the Lord has said, ‘keval neej swabhavnu akhhand varte gnan—the uninterrupted bliss of the Self is being experienced.’ But it does get interrupted.

Therefore quit the habit of tasting sweetness (respect) and it is unlikely that anyone will go out of his way to serve you anything bitter (insult). This is because your worldly interaction (now) is such that no one will insult you. And if it does happen then know that as your vyavasthit—scientific circumstantial evidence.

The fault is of the sufferer.

Questioner : Awareness is more evident during bitterness—unpleasant life effects.

Dadashri : That is why one becomes deluded at the time of tasting sweetness— pleasant life effects.

Now uninterrupted awareness—Gnan will be experienced when there is no objection or interference of any kind (with reference to painful or pleasant life effects). This path is of uninterrupted awareness—akhhand jagruti.

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Indian flatbread to a dog, he will forget his entire family. He will forget everyone, his puppies, territory where he lives, the general vicinity of his residence, will all be forgotten and he will stray far from his location. He is wagging his tail from the temptation of the addictive greedy craving—lalacha for a single poori! I am a strong opponent of such lalacha—addictive avarice. When I see this in people, I am amazed, what kind of greed! This is open poison! One should eat what comes in front, but such addictive greed must not exist.

Questioner : One’s needs are satisfied without having to resort to such covetousness.

Dadashri : Therefore, the trouble is for only the covetous people. Otherwise everything is available right at home. I do not have any desire for anything and yet I get everything.

There is no desire for anything let alone any avarice.

Questioner : What is the difference between avarice and desire?

Dadashri : Everyone is free to harbor any desire, of any kind. There is no problem in having desire. But avarice, if you dangle a piece of bread to a dog, it will run from anywhere to anywhere because gluttonous greed has taken hold.

Questioner : So such addictive avarice one loses the sense of what is right and what is wrong?

Dadashri : Insatiable avarice— gluttonous greed, gives you the right to label a man as an animal! It is an animal roaming around in human form.

Questioner : What are the consequences if we perform these religious activities for gluttonous greed, prestige and fame?

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to do these practices for prestige. As a worldly being he desires to become famous and earn respect. That is not gluttonous greed. Lalacha is like the example of the dog. Sees one poori and he is lost and runs around it.He will lose the awareness that he has strayed far from his location and family. He loses all bhaan— awareness.

Everyone would have some element of such gluttonous avarice to a minor extent but the term lalachoo—the addicted glutton—is reserved for the one who behaves like an animal in human form.

The lalachoo person—the greedy glutton will hang around for hours waiting for something sweet to be served once he knows it is likely to be offered in your home. He will stay put for two, three or even four hours. He will leave only if you give him some. He sits so long because of this insatiable greed within. On the other hand an egoistic person—one who is heavily laden with the sense of the self—will say, ‘leave it alone man, let me go to my home.’

He will take off. He does not covet. Therefore this world is bound by such lalacha—excessive greed laced with temptation and promise of pleasure. Hey, these dogs and donkeys have such gluttony! Not us human beings! How dare we have such avarice? How dare it exist in us?

When does a mouse enter the cage?

When does it get trapped in the cage?

Questioner : When there is excessive greed—lalacha.

Dadashri : Yes, it smelled fragrance of the dhebroo—small spicy round deep-fried bread—and, going in to eat it, it got trapped.

It saw the dhebroo in the cage and experienced intense inner craving for it, ‘when shall I go in?

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traps. And therefore the doors get closed automatically. So the root cause of all the miseries is insatiable greed for pleasure— lalacha.

The craving to experience pleasure from whatever source available Questioner : What other things are included in this lalacha—gluttonous greed for pleasure?

Dadashri : Everything falls into it.

Questioner : Yes, but what types of greed is included in it?

Dadashri : Greed for all kinds of pleasure. Nothing is left out!

Questioner : Please, explain it to us with some examples.

Dadashri : Everyone understands this.

Would anyone like to have any greed for the pain of getting beaten up? Would anyone like to have any gluttony for getting verbally abused? Would not everyone understand the nature of this gluttony? Let me enjoy this, let me enjoy that; let me enjoy this and that, that verily is the insatiable greed—the lalacha.

Questioner : But on what basis is such gluttony maintained and sustained?

Dadashri : On the basis of enjoying pleasure. Such a person wants to experience pleasure from whatever and whichever source available. There is no meaningful goal in life.

Such a person does not care for public recognition and respect and is unaffected by defamation and insults. Just goes for pleasure in a shameless manner. There is no respect for any man made laws or discipline.

Questioner : So what is the cause of this kind of gluttony? How do these avarices originate?

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whomever. So then there is no law at all. He is not concerned about how shameful this is considered by the society, and much of his gluttony for pleasure is along the lines of public censure—lokanindya—disgraceful. Therefore such gluttony leads one into disgraceful acts and does not let him remain human.

Questioner : So what kinds of bhaav— intents arise within in such a state of gluttony?

Dadashri : One is driven towards experiencing pleasure from anything that comes in front of him.Lalacha means to intensely seek pleasure from the physical relative world all day long.

Questioner : Meaning he wants to experience pleasure at any cost?

Dadashri : Yes, correct. Our mahatmas who have attained this Gnan do not seek such pleasures. They settle the files—term used by Dadashri for the non-Self accounts, presenting in this life—with equanimity. What ever he gets he settles with it, but he will not be looking for it.

This intense greed has never been purged in any previous life and that is why all these miseries exist now. And one goes through miseries for infinite life times, is unlikely to get any happiness in future, such is the consequence of such gluttony. This lalacha is the very cause for exclusive misery in life. This intense greed has existed not only in the past life but also in many previous lives. Now if one fractures it in this one life then everything will be fine and smooth from hereon on. As long as it exists, the danger remains.

What does our Gnan—Self-knowledge say? What is it in this world that is worth enjoying? You are uselessly struggling in pursuing these pleasures. The bliss of the Self is the only experience worth pursuing.

Questioner : The bliss that exists in the 8

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Dadashri : Where else can bliss exist?

All those pleasures are imaginary. If you imagine happiness—project happiness, you feel happy.

One person says, ‘I like jalebee—crisp syrupy golden sweet very much,’ and another person says, ‘when I see jalebee I feel like puking.’

So these pleasures are imagined, not real. The whole world will accept gold as a reason for pleasure and the Gnani Purush or even the Jain saints will reject it as a source of pleasure. The world has imagined pleasure to exist in sex.

Sexual interaction is nothing but sheer filth. How can bliss exist there?

Pointman: the pleasure of the ego derails your spiritual train The thing here is that there would be many ‘point men’ (men in charge of railway line switching points) on the spiritual path. So if we are on the train that we think would take us to Delhi, it would have been switched somewhere on the way and we end up at the wrong destination. Therefore adhere to the destination from our—The Gnani’s—point only.

There is likely to be so many point men here.

If the train is traveling on the main line— the right track you will not be robbed (of the great spiritual treasure received from the Gnani). If the track changes, you will be robbed and thereafter there is no telling where you will end up. Therefore do not ever place any trust on a point man. If you begin a tea break with him, he will switch your destination track.

Questioner : Who is said to be a point man in the path of liberation—moksha?

Dadashri : A point man is one who speaks that which pleases you. If some one talks to you and makes you dizzy with a sense of inner pleasure, then you should know that a point man has arrived. He speaks something that pleases you and then the mind gets caught up in it and takes over. Therefore a point man August 2006

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will switch your train to the wrong track with the same speed, without you being aware of the switch. Later on if someone tells you, ‘Oh, why are you on this wrong path?’ Then you will reply, ‘I can never be on the wrong way!’

This is how it is.

Questioner : Is this why the Lord has said to remain continuously under the shelter of the Gnani?

Dadashri : Yes, that is why it is said, otherwise in any little matter you will find a point man and he will change your track right away. On top of it, what will he say? ‘Mine is the Rajdhani Express—fast track train from Mumbai to Delhi.’ Oh, but your track is changed! Rajdhani, who says it is not Rajdhani but if it is riding on the main track then only it is Rajdhani Express. However if the track has changed then where will it take you? You will not reach Delhi.

We should exercise great care to ensure that our main line (goal of liberation) is not switched. All these are old habits, no?We have not got rid of these old habits so far. We should know that they are old habits.

Questioner : If someone is very strong and firm in his nischaya—resolution to remain the Self after AtmaGnan in Akram, then his vyavahaar—worldly interactions of the relative self will become very beautiful and harmonious, no?

Dadashri : Vyavahaar must become pleasant and harmonious and if it does not then the nischaya will weaken. (If the worldly interactions do not improve it would weaken one’s resolve to remain as the Self.)

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taken the wrong track and therein he becomes emotional—expresses raag and dwesh— consequences of attachment and abhorrence.Whereas nirakudata— transcendence of pleasure and pain, state beyond easiness and uneasiness—is always there on the main line. In the other this nirakudata—the bliss of the Self leaves and is replaced by uneasiness which becomes evident in thoughts and facial expression. If one rides on the wrong track, he will lose the bliss of the Self.

Questioner : When can it be said that the mistake has been fractured?

Dadashri : If you understand it in systematic detail then it can be said that the mistake has been fractured. This means you understand the answers to, ‘how did it happen?

What was the beginning of the wrong track?

What happened initially? What was the underlying reason for it?’ If you unearth the answers to all this from within, then know that the mistake has been fractured. Investigate what happened on the first day initially, what was the basis of becoming emotional, on what basis did the bliss of the Self—nirakudata leave? All this can be known.

Questioner : In the worldly interactions that are happening, there is no persistent preference of taking one way or the other.In what is unfolding in daily life there is no insistence that we should take this way or that.

Otherwise in nischaya—matters of the Self— there is no deviation or slippage.

Dadashri : Once the vyavahaar— relative worldly interaction slips then verily there will be slippage in nischaya—the state of the Self.It may seem so to you that there is no slippage from the Self. The mind may give you false impressions that, ‘nothing has been disturbed in the Self.’ But if the relative worldly interaction becomes unsteady—being on the 9

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wrong track—then understand that the nischaya—state of the Self has slipped and become unsteady for sure. Beware of this one critical point!

When the track is never switched then it is correct. No one dare switch it, one should not be so gullible, and then it is correct. So many persons come and tell me all kinds of things but I remain unmoved. I do not let their talks sway me.

Questioner : Primarily, which matters are you talking about with reference to not being moved?

Dadashri : Samyak—the real and the right—the state of the Self. I would investigate and reach for the right in it. And then I would cancel it. Afterwards, if someone tries to instigate it further, he will not get any response.

Many people do say, ‘Dada is guileless.’ At least try to estimate ‘Dada’ He is the Self. He would not be guileless or otherwise. Would He be guileless? If a Gnani Purush is guileless then what is the difference between him and a stupid person?

Do you have any ability to sort out— critically analyze—this talk? Are you able to critically appreciate this line of conversation that you are involved in?

Questioner : I am beginning to appreciate this after prolonged familiarity and contact with it.

Dadashri : The one, who is saying this—the one who is instrumental in switching the tracks—, would not have any deceitful aggression (prapanch). He is simply speaking out of idiocy—unaware of the reality of this universe. If the switch happens to me, then there would be a major problem in satsang, no? You say, ‘Such thing happened, Dada’ and Dada believed that—become beguiled with reference to the total vision of the path of liberation, then where is the substance in it?

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Questioner : With what adjustment are you not accepting that matter?

Dadashri : I would know right away.

Its value, I can understand everything. I would know from the moment he starts talking that he is being partial, and is trying to make me take sides. If Gnani Purush becomes naïve then all is lost. He may look guileless and simple.

For the One who has no element of deceit where is the talk of being naïve and guileless?

Where there is guilelessness deceit exists for sure. Deceit exists on the other side of guilelessness. Where there is no deceit there is not an iota of guilelessness.

Questioner : So does guilelessness exist on the basement of deceit?

Dadashri : Foolishness prevails on the foundation of deceit. When deceit—kapat leaves foolishness will not remain.

Questioner : What is the nature of that deceit? What kind of deceit is that?

Dadashri : All varieties of deceit— kapat! Deceit means to keep everything secret from the self, to veil the self, to keep all matters hidden from the self. All kinds of deceit! Deceit of taking advantage of someone, to keep secret one’s own thing from others; that is also deceit!

Questioner : So from what is one trying to hide all this?

Dadashri:To hide one’s matter from becoming known to others, one employs deceit. If one is talking in secret with someone, and someone else enters the room, would he not stop talking?

Questioner : Yes, that happens.

Dadashri : What can be the reason for that?

Questioner : Is that called deceit?

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Dadashri : Then what else can you call it?

Questioner : So where is the forthrightness in this?

Dadashri : Deceit exists therefore guilelessness—forthrightness exists on the other side of it. If this much foolishness—lack of guile, which led to change of tracks—were not there then deceit would not have arisen. Deceit is the pointer and sign of foolishness.

Guilelessness exists where deceit exists. And where guilelessness exists, one should take it for granted that deceit is there.

Questioner : The track that you have mentioned, that track should not be switched— changed. So now if the track has not been changed, then what should we consider as the goal—destination of this track?

Dadashri : Goal of moksha—liberation, salvation!What other goal? That is the main line!

Questioner : And if the goal changes then what other kind of goal would arise?

Dadashri : One runs swiftly to the side opposite to moksha. It would take no time!

And one would feel, ‘I am indeed on the path of liberation.’

Questioner : So in there which kind of a mistake lingers on?

Dadashri : That verily is this kapat— deceit and the foolishness. After listening to other people, one is unable to differentiate what is right or wrong.‘What is correct and what is wrong?’

Questioner : How can one develop the understanding of the correct and the wrong?

Dadashri : Until deceit leaves one cannot get this understanding. When one ‘fits’—absorbs all that I speak then he is established on the right path. Once this happens, we know that he will reach the goal.

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Questioner : What are the signs of a person who is established on the path—main line?

Dadashri : Deceit should go away.

Questioner:Please explain more about this deceit?

Dadashri : Everyone knows for sure the deceit that exists here, and elsewhere.

Guilelessness also exists till then. And wherever guilelessness exists, if someone comes and instigates with misinformation, ‘so and so just died, one believes it as the truth and starts crying’ without even inquiring further about who exactly died. He just hears the sentence and breaks down. Do not take the words of your own father as the gospel truth because he is saying them from his level of understanding and view. There is no deceit in there, but there is lack of correct understanding.

Questioner : Except for the Gnani, the talk of the entire world is from one’s own view point only, no?

Dadashri : Indeed. It is from one’s own viewpoint only. And if that viewpoint is correct, then it is all right. However, it is correct by his understanding only.There you have to listen, agree, and pass your days! And nothing is attained. Only that which is true is attained.

Questioner : I could not quite understand your statement, ‘there you have to listen, agree, and pass your days…’

Dadashri : Whatever he speaks, you should not obstruct—oppose, challenge it.

Accept and listen as if you believe it to be the truth. You have to listen like that. The rest is in your hands, no? You should totally rest on the samyak—the right vision and understanding (that I have given you). Read where the pointer of the samyak is pointing in the path. Your sincerity stops at the extent of your listening to 11

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him, not beyond. You should not obstruct him nor create any obstacles for him.

he has made no mistakes.

Everyone will talk in his or her own language—bhashaa, no?I am saying that whatever one is saying in his language is correct. But it would not fit—be in concert with—my language.

Dadashri : Yes, and on top of it, he rationalizes and protects his stance on the error.

But if you see anyone’s fault, it is indeed your own fault. He has to see his own fault. What right does anyone else has to see his fault?

Without any purpose one becomes a judge.

Why utter anything before even knowing whether a mistake has been committed? You are blurting out your own selfish intent. What is the exact proof that the mistake is indeed of the other person?

Questioner : How is it with your bhashaa—inner language? What is the nature of this constant shuddha—pure upayoga— awareness as the Self?

Dadashri : Ah! That you have never seen or heard, have you?

Questioner : Please give us a glimpse of it…

Dadashri : No, it cannot put in words.

It is the matter of experience only. That stage will arrive by itself. Currently for you there is the intuition—sooj working at the gross— sthoola level. The other is at the subtlest— sookshmattam level. And everyone communicates in his or her own language— bhashaa—communication of inner understanding, no? You may understand at the subtlest level and that other person is speaking at the gross level. Now how will he understand the subtlest level?He will of course speak at the level of the gross, no?

This Gnan that you have heard from me will keep working for you. You are listening about the knowledge of the path that I have taken, and that path will continue working for you. All you have to say is, ‘Dada we want to follow your foot steps,’ and thereafter I will expose my entire path to you.

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Questioner : And he even believes it!

Therefore this Vignan—spiritual science will verily eradicate all the mistakes. Otherwise any other science cannot get rid of the faults.

Later such opportunity will not come again.

Hence it is best to proceed after being forewarned.

One should not evaluate one’s own level of spiritual progress within one’s mind, as this will impede and stop his progress. One should not assess one’s own spiritual level. It is of use if others do this for him.

Questioner : This level in the mind, is regarding which issue?

Dadashri : On the path of liberation everyone is sitting down having made up his mind by himself about his spiritual level. And that would be completely wrong, without even a letter of the truth to it. And once a person sits down having believed himself to be at a certain level, he stops there. There is no further progress spiritually.

Now you all are at stages where it will not take much to deviate from the path and slip off the main track. Amidst such rampant weaknesses to progress spiritually towards total enlightenment—purnataa, needs full and thorough understanding. First, in this all, deceit must leave.

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All the energies are wasting away in the pursuit of—that which is not ours—relative, the non-Self.

Questioner : In addition, one employs the very deceit—kapat to cover— conceal it all again.

Dadashri : Yes, conceals the same thing again. Nothing belongs to us—the Self, yet one takes side of the non-Self. Hey you! Once you have decided—in the Gnan Vidhi—that nothing is mine, then again you went for it—the nonSelf complex, Chandulal—and took its side?

Then he replies, ‘ooops, I forgot.’

Questioner : Which is it, does he forget or is he still not free from taking its—the relative’s—side?

Dadashri : He has not become free from taking the side of the relative. He will just say for that moment that I forgot, but it is not easy to become free from being partial.

So beware, beware all the time; one has to be very much aware.

Questioner : That is correct. Today the resolution has been made to adhere to the track of liberation, however until one understands with clarity the distinction between the supporting or obstructing causes of liberation it seems very difficult to make this train hold on to a steady course that will end in total enlightenment.

Dadashri : If you use the word difficult, no task will be done. Therefore, say that You have given us such a Vignan—science that indeed there is no difficulty at all!

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kinds of so-called miracles happen! Now what are they exactly?It is my yashnaam—fame credit karma—unfolding.So my hand barely touches you and your work gets done and you keep giving all the credit and fame to Dada, as if Dada has done it.But what is mine—the Self’s—in it?It is all the work of the fame credit—yashnaam karma. Who did it all?

Questioner : Even so, for the world it can be said that Dada has done it, no?

Dadashri : No, not Dada, there is a karma called yashnaam. We are separate from the karma. That karma unfolds—gives fruit in this life—to us. So then this yashnaam karma effect is very heavy so one and all keeps giving Dada the credit for anything good that happens to them.

Are you convinced that in the Jain scriptures there are two aspects to the naam— name form determining karma? These are the yash—credit bearing karma and the upyash— discredit, dishonor bearing karma. Have you heard about some people who work very hard,yet get dishonor and disrespect? Why is that? That is the unfolding of the upyashnaam karma, which gets them disrespect. This happens to them even if their work is very good. This means they have bound karma effect of disrespect in the past life. And here I am not doing anything yet I get all the credits, what is the reason for that? This is because of yashnaam karma.

I have told many that even before this Gnan—Self-realization, I used to get all the credits in worldly tasks and results. I would say, ‘brother, I am not involved in this, I have not done anything in this, I don’t even know, it is done by someone else so go and give this credit to him.’ I knew that if the credit is due to another person for a task that brought good results, if I was given it, then the person who actually did all the work would fall short, no?

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He would be awaiting the appreciation and the honor, no? So I would say, ‘this work is done by other person so go there and give it to him.’

Even then, he would insist, ‘no, no, without you this would not have been accomplished.’

So he will leave it at my doorstep. Someway or the other he would leave all the credit for me.Now what am I to do? I need to find solution for this, no? Later on I understood that this is yashnaam karma.

Questioner : So then how would you handle that package—of credit?

Dadashri : Nothing. I would throw it away after doing vidhi—inner spiritual recitation—confirmation of Gnan. There is nothing that I keep with me. This is because we are not the doer, we are simply a nimit— instrumental evidence—in it.What are we? Nimit. Just because this hand touches you (traditional blessing of the Gnani on the seeker’s head or upper back) does not mean that I did it?I am not even a hand or not even a leg this is the effect—unfolding of your karma. It was time for your disease to be cured and I had put my hand. Because Dada was supposed to get credit, so Dada cured this.

Dada does get all these credits! Then he says, ‘are you doing this then?’ I said that, all these are only yashnaam karma. I clarified this. Other people have not clarified that; ‘this is my yashnaam karma.’ At that time they are hungry for recognition and so they take pleasure in it.

‘You cured my disease’ when they hear this, they get sucked in to the taste of this pleasure, so they willingly take the credit. Their liberation is impeded because they cannot let go of the pleasure of this taste. On the way to liberation if you stayed right here, everything will halt right here, no?

By a mere touch of my hand, his work gets done for sure. So he will think that Dada did this. Dada is not free like that to do all such things. Dada, is here to make you 14

experience the bliss which he has experienced and to liberate you from worldly life. Dada is liberated.Only the one who is liberated absolutely in every way can liberate you. He cannot give you anything else.

The addiction of pursuing the pleasure Questioner : You had said once that the whole world is trapped in ‘havmor’ (brand name for ice-cream).

Dadashri : In ‘Havmor’! I don’t need ‘Havmor’, that is why I am not trapped in this, no?If the ice-cream arrives I will eat it. That— the pursuit of pleasure is the aim of worldly people, and for me such aim is meaningless.

My goal is different.

People get habituated to ‘Havmor— pursuit of pleasure’ later on. The reason for this is ajagruti— unawareness. One gets habituated because of not having awareness of that which is beneficial and that which is not. When can one become habituated? When one is not aware of what is right and what is wrong. If someone feeds me ice-cream everyday, I would not even remember it the next day. And even if someone feeds me ice cream everyday for months and months and then stops suddenly, I would not miss it for a second. I would appreciate it and say, ‘the icecream is very good’ I would say this, but superfluously! If it were to give you the sweet taste after it has been consumed then you can say that it is good. Having eaten it, if you want to resume tasting its sweetness will it come to you? Then what is the use of that kind of taste?

That is why some people get caught up in going after prolonging the taste of the pleasure by, ‘now I don’t have anything else to eat so let me try to prolong its taste as much as possible by keeping it in the mouth.’ What will I do with this last scoop? Yes, after it has gone in the stomach it will not taste like this.

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No one can bind the one who wants to be free, and no one can free the one who wants to remain bound. But there should be one goal only. One should not waver between wanting to be free one moment and wanting to remain bound—continue with status quo—the next moment. The goal means it is decided that come what may, I will not waver. All these mahatmas sing that hymn, ‘come what may, I will not forsake you,’ no? What is that hymn?

were to push and force him on any track one would remain firm and not sway. If someone instigates you to ride on the wrong track, would you do that? You would not? You are experiencing the inner bliss all day, no? Then what are you groping for? You have attained moksha—liberation right here then. The relative self—the external will continue to do the worldly jobs. That is happening naturally. You stay as the Self all day long and he—Chandulal will do everything.

Questioner : (sings) ‘nahii chhodoon Dadaji tamney nahii chhodoon—come what may, I will not forsake you Dadaji.’

He was asking me about quitting his job for this—satsang—the company of the Self. I told him, ‘no, don’t quit.’

Dadashri : Thereafter, he does not forsake the goal.When it is likely that the results will come forth according to the goal, one will not forsake it.

Questioner : I also feel that all these mahatmas progressed so further and I remain the same. I am preoccupied with this thought.

The wavering goal

Questioner : So then, the one who meets a Gnani Purush in this life, would he have decided upon a goal at sometime in past life for salvation—moksha?

Dadashri : Yes, then only he will meet one, no?

Questioner : So then when he comes in this life, he will definitely get set on the goal, no?

Dadashri : The only thing there is that, that goal would be a wavering one, it is not fixed.

Questioner : Not precisely fixed.

Therefore there would be the desire (for an unwavering goal of liberation) but the goal is not fixed—encased in concrete.

Dadashri : Yes. He would have a desire for the goal but it would be a wavering one.

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Dadashri : Aha! Do you feel that way?

Do you feel such remorse? Where is your loss in all this? You have scooters, cars. Such remorse is healthy.

Questioner : I definitely feel it.

Dadashri : Here you get satsang, right here in the home. Your father has been pleading everyday, ‘hey, you are getting satsang right at home, take advantage of this.’

Questioner : So Dada, Is this happening now because the goal in the past life was a wavering one?

Dadashri : Exactly. Otherwise it will not be so now.

Questioner : Otherwise such thing would not happen now, amidst such beautiful and easy circumstances (satsang at home). This therefore is the result of wavering goal only.

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awakened internal meditation—one needs to discard the parmanoos—subatomic particles of moha—illusion that makes it seems real—that exist within. Those particles which impede the path of liberation—mokshamarg, all those that constitute the illusion need to be discarded. One has brought forth these particles from the past life and they exist within. They also are quick to enter within, in the current forceful environment of koosang—that which leads one away from the Self—and therefore they need to be shed. What is meant by shedding? To be free from them—nivrutta. Let them remain as they are. You are not to pay attention— become involved—to them.The karma that involves them will come by itself and bring for its effect and leave, on its own.

That is why, nothing can bind the one who has made the firm decision to remain and become free. The one who resolves, ‘except for moksha—ultimate liberation, I do not want anything,’ will bind so. And the one who says, ‘I want moksha, and also this—worldly thing,’ will bind that.

Questioner : In light of this then, the current goal of this life of mine is a wavering one?

Dadashri : Alas, all such goals are indeed wavering, are they not? Until one sheds the particles of the illusion—moha, the goal remains a wavering one for sure. One still loves the illusion—moha. One is still drawn to that which is not real (and thus gets attached to it).

Questioner : Yes, the illusion and the attraction to it. What is it that has kept me away from Dada for the last five years? If indeed it is the illusion and the attraction, then I am willing to take on the error of exercising the ego to challenge them and be rid of them.

Alas I have never ever challenged them.

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they have been challenged, they dare not linger around, no? These are neutral—energy less— entities and they will leave. One stern shout, ‘abey saaley—what the hell damn it’ and they will scurry away. Hmm..they indeed are neutral—impotent and will not resist one such, ‘abey saaley...!’ You on the other hand are welcoming them with open arms and thanking them. Will they then not take control over you?

Then they serve you the wine of illusion that intoxicates. Only one, ‘abey saaley...’ yell is enough to dispel them.

Questioner : These faults that have been committed if I were to write and... (show them to you) Dadashri : One would write down all such faults and give the paper to me. Now if I talk about those faults to others, then it would hurt him. That is why I would read them and then wash them away—do vidhi—internal purification energy invocation—for the one who has expressed the faults to me. For example if you wish to bring up a specific topic, it is best if you do not raise any names, but bring it up generally in open satsang, and this would benefit all present without hurting anyone. It is under the control of vyavasthit, scientific circumstantial evidence. It is not in our hand. Why do we need to meddle in that?

If it—vyavasthit—shows a loss, it is correct.

If it shows a profit, it is correct.

Where have you sustained a loss?

Questioner : In financial futures trading.

I had speculated in the futures market.

Dadashri : Are you still trading?

Questioner : No, I am not trading now.

How am I going to do it now? This is a thing of the past.

Dadashri : If you speculate then only you will lose, no? And now if you do not do anything...

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Questioner : Then the profit is the only thing that remains for me. If I go for profit then I stand to lose.

no faith in himself that is why he has to ask someone, ‘what was he saying about me, after I left?’

Dadashri : No. The loss and the harm is there only if one forsakes his goal. Why do you need the rupees—dollars? Your needs are going to be met, the amount that is needed for your living needs will indeed come to you, so keep doing your work. Perform all your duties and obligations. And furthermore, move away from all that is contrary to your goal of moksha—liberation. Yelling, ‘abey saaley..!’ will make them all run from you.

Do I ever keep a watch behind me asking, ‘what is he talking behind me?’

Whatever he was talking about me, I do not have any problem. Even if he were to say it right on my face, I am unaffected. This person who is asking he is doing so because of deceit—kapat within.

One’s intent must be that of never to be caught up in anything that impedes the goal of liberation, having once embarked upon it.

The deception that deludes and throws one off the track of liberation Say for instance you happened to have a discord with another person. A third person was also there at the time of the altercation.

Later when you meet this third person, you ask him, ‘what was he saying about me after I left?’ Can such thing happen or not?

Questioner : Yes, It is possible. What is it called?

Dadashri : Such a thing will totally throw one off the path of liberation. ‘What was he saying about me?’ if it stays within, can ruin your path of liberation.

Questioner : How come? Why is that so?

Dadashri : That is a very treacherous and an awfully wrong path.

Questioner : Is that also called deceit?

Dadashri : Yes, That is why he is asking that third person, ‘what was he talking after I left?’

Questioner : Or is it called the ego?

Dadashri : How can you say that it is the ego? All this is to cover his secrets and keep them from exposure. Let the world say whatever it wants to for the one who has nothing to hide. Will such a person inquire, ‘what was he talking behind me?’ Say whatever you want to. Hey, say it on my face!

Do I have any problem? If I was drinking then I would have a problem, no?

Come sing—say it on my face, in my presence if you dare to! Therefore, I would never inquire, ‘What will he say behind me?

What was he saying after I left?’ One is free to create the echoes one wishes for. Alas the poor fellow is doing it from his understanding.

Where can he have all this understanding? All he knows is how to consume—eat. That too he does by soiling things around and creating a mess.

Questioner : But in that situation which element—tattva is playing a role?

Questioner : Indeed, when you explain with such clarity that this is a huge stumbling block, then it is understood.

Dadashri : Why he has a need to ask such a question? Is he a thief that he needs to ask, ‘what he was talking about me?’ He has

Dadashri : You should make yourself— the worldly self such that, nothing—no matter how hurtful—anyone says about you later on,

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will affect you even to the slightest extent within.

want moksha! How can the two exist simultaneously?

Arey—are you aware? people eavesdrop—extend the ear towards a specific conversation—too! Alas, people extend their ear towards a conversation not meant for them.

What kind of losers and useless people are these? If someone is talking about you, it would be because there may be some fault in you, no? Otherwise, who is there to blame you?

And, to listen in on that which is not meant for your ears, how unworthy of you? How badly would the one who sees this will feel? It is a terrible fault.

Therefore, this point is critically important to understand, no? You can never predict how life will unfold in front of you. Such weaknesses must be fractured by all means, no?

Let the whole world talk. Many people are saying, ‘Dada, they are talking such things about you!’ I said, ‘yes, that is correct. They are saying good things.’ Then will say, ‘they are also printing it in the newspapers.’ ‘So much the better! They are now getting to know this Dada, no?’ I would be concerned and have fear only if the fault were to exist within me.

So let the world bray, but what effect can it have on the one who is strong?

Questioner : How is it for the one who has made a resolute decision never to deviate from this path?

Dadashri : That resolution has been made, but along with this he wants to adore the other—worldly goal too. That other lingers in his mind, no? This is only one fault; still there lie so many such faults. One will need to get rid of all these faults, no?

Therefore, whatever they say behind you, you should not have a care about that.

Otherwise it confirms that you are at fault. Yes, there it is, why did you make a mistake to listen in, secretly? You are the guilty one, that is why, no? One will need to understand this, no? How long can you go on with status quo? What do you think about all this? This here is nature of that which continued the worldly life and you 18

When forces which break the goal arise, what can happen there? Do you know what a tiny mistake that you cannot spot, can do? It can totally delude you. Once deluded, what huge mistakes one commits! The raging ego then takes over.

Therefore, one should not try to listen in on someone’s private conversation, ‘What were they saying about me?’ And why the interest in this? It is because of one’s own deceit—kapat. Deceit will never ever help you, not even a tiny bit. And if someone brings you some spicy talk that he has heard about you, that person becomes close and dear to you.

Questioner : What can we say about the messenger?

Dadashri : You should not let him touch—affect You at all.

Questioner : No, I meant to ask, just as we say that it is deceitful to listen in, what is the inner state of the person who brings the message of the conversation secretly?

Dadashri : The messenger is interested in creating a rift between these two. He is deeply rooted in the pleasure this creates for him.

Questioner : That verily is his deceit too, no?

Dadashri : Yes, it is all deceit—kapat too! He is searching for a certain pleasure in this. He has an interest in it.

Questioner:Looking for a certain pleasure...falls under deceit?

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Dadashri : What else would be there, then? A person should have a fragrance that people admire. Fragrance! People would admire, ‘such an honorable gentleman, we can not say enough good things about him!’ Such fragrance spreads.

Questioner : What is the vision— drashti of the one who is walking on the path of liberation—mokshamarg? What is his uninterrupted understanding?

Dadashri : It is not easily graspable just by words. When ones deceitful bhaav— deepest inner intent—is shed, and one can only shed what is known to him within. Otherwise, apart from this there remains a lot within of which the owner is totally oblivious. What is kapatbhaav—deceitful intent? If the owner is aware of its existence then he would have gotten rid of it a long time ago. Therefore, beware, beware, beware!

If you listen to any talk about anyone else, it ruins your brain. On top of that when you hear talk about our own self from someone else, that talk becomes sweet to you. This disease exists in everyone to some extent or the other. Some people have less inclination for such sweetness.When one is served such spicy information secretly, one does slip into listening and taking an interest in it. His wish is fulfilled, no? He heard and brought it here!

Now this person who has brought the news, he would not know the dangerous consequences of what he has just done. He is simply absorbed in the pleasure of it. Sooner or later one will have to understand and come to terms with all this, no? And what will the middle man do? If he distorts it, will it not cause great harm all around? The mind would become upset, conflicts will be given fuel leading to further rifts which continues to harm you constantly. Rather than this, what if one simply rejects this system of listening in? Would it not be good to uproot it totally? No such August 2006

business and no such item for trading. Is that not good?

Husband will inquire, ‘what was the wife was saying?’ And the wife will inquire, ‘what was my husband saying?’ Why on earth do you want to know all this? He or she is at fault that verily is the reason, no? Will he or she have any desire to know anything if they were faultless?

Why such attachment for this? This is the greatest food for the worldly people. This is called ‘holiday’ (dadashri’s term for languishing in meaningless and harmful pleasures)! One must not have such a habit here—on the path of liberation.

Questioner : But Dada, what should one do when one has to commit deceit out of fear of someone?

Dadashri : You must not employ deceit out of fear. Why harbor any fear in the first place? Fear is for the thief. What reason is there for us all to harbor any fear? Who would feel fear, a guilty one or an innocent one?One feels fear because of the guilt. Why not become free of all guilt?

Questioner : All the puzzles will be solved if I can resolutely adhere to the goal of liberation in which I have no other desires. Also on that path if I can clearly understand the obstructing causes, then all conflicts vanish and it becomes very easy.

Dadashri : Simply put, even the resolution, ‘I desire liberation only, nothing else,’ is more than enough. If that becomes a reality, then the task is accomplished, no? One still lingers on waiting for, ‘it would be nice to hear some good words about me from him.’

Whereas the real traveler on the path of liberation is desirous of knowing thetruth only, desirous for moksha only. Such a one does not interfere in any matter whatsoever.

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Exercising the authority of the Self leads to liberation Leave aside anything that interferes on your path of liberation and proceed further.

One must never lose sight of the goal. Come what may, however difficult the circumstances, one must stick to the path of liberation.

Do you follow according to the goal any time? Is anything on the wrong way? It has become natural to you, no?

Questioner : I have to keep turning the handle from within.

Dadashri : Do you have to keep turning it? But do they—the internal passions, kashayas—anger, pride, greed and deceit— heed You?Right away?

Questioner : Right away.

Dadashri : Right away? Not take any time? Then it is good. The extent to which they listen to You, is the extent of your liberation.

You are that much free from the non-Self— Chandubhai. That is the gauge. The Self has no bribe—expectation of a worldly reward.

When such an expectation exists then it—the non-Self complex—will not take heed to You. If You have been accepting bribes from it, then it will not listen to You. Once You get a taste of their bribe—worldly pleasure, then they— the kashayas stop responding to You. This worldly life interaction—vyavahaar is such that it will drag you in its direction only.

For infinite life times you have worshipped only this path, no? The worldly interaction pattern has become habituated for more of the same only. So now if it is going in that direction, then we need to guide it on the path of liberation.

The ox is accustomed to plod along on the old trail. Now You have to go on the path of Your goal. Not this path, the other path. Tell it—the non-Self, ‘walk on this one.’

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all those rest will follow through and take heed immediately. And once the bribe is accepted then they make you suffer from all angles and in all matters and they will exert a heavy toll on you. So You should never hesitate and take a back step on this path.

Questioner : What is the nature of that bribe?

Dadashri : One will go and taste it.

Having experienced the pleasure, he would linger there and may even go there again and take a double dose of the same. Once the taste has been experienced he will return to drink a few more bottles.

All this is deceptive intent—chor daanat.

You want to accomplish the goal and have deceptive intention, how can the two stay together?The intent—daanat must be pure and exact, devoid of any corruption or bribes. One has become habituated to taste the transient pleasure—mastii and therefore he returns there to become trapped in its deluding pleasure.

Questioner:This mastii—pleasure seeking is of the prakruti—the non-Self complex?

Dadashri : What else then? He has been habituated to stay there only, no? So You—the awakened one need to tell him— the asleep one, the non-Self, ‘no thanks, I need to go this other way, I am not interested in transient pleasures—mastii anymore, I need to walk on the path of my goal.’ The pleasure seeking directives of the prakruti will take you in the thick of a maze of entrapments.

The one who breaks your mission and goal is your enemy. How can we tolerate anything that hurts our goal? Otherwise it is akin to following the path of brahmacharya— freedom from all sexual impulses in words, thoughts and deeds, and entertaining the thoughts of abrahmacharya—sexuality. The pleasure will arise in the thoughts, but then what August 2006

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will happen? That verily is a grave fault, is it not?Then TB—chronic self destructing infection—will enter, will it not? Putrefaction will follow, will it not?

of them? What need is there for me—the Gnani—to delve deep in this matter?The talk arose and it happened, otherwise who knew that such things were indeed happening?

At this place, one must bring one’s mind to such an invincible strength, that whatever happens in this life, even if the body leaves— death comes, I want to get some ‘work’ accomplished in this very life time. Such a resolve must be encased in concrete. As a result of such a resolve, the work—the goal will come definitely by itself. But one must resolve this for his own Self. One should not become sloppy in this. When such an opportunity is in front—the presence of the Gnani and the path of liberation that he has lit, one must not remain tentative and falter.

Thereafter, whatever happens is correct. You need not keep tabs that this did or did not happen. Let it all unfold with ease .The destination will come with ease and naturally.

Questioner : What can be done to bring into experience—anubhav such keen insight and understanding?

What is one’s authority here? Deep inner intent—bhaav—that I would like to accomplish this much. Nischaya—the unflinching decision to exercise that intent—the bhaav. And one must exercise caution to keep away from the disease, ‘let me vocalize—give this spiritual discourse of satsang to a few five around me, or such endeavors.’ Care must be exercised in this regard otherwise new kinds of disease will take hold within you and drag you in the wrong path and what will happen then? No one will come to your rescue. Therefore if you want moksha—final liberation do not get into this matter of ‘talking about Self-realization etc.’ to others. If anyone asks, simply say, ‘I do not know anything.’

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Dadashri : The experience is proportional to the awakened awareness— jagruti. This Gnan—Self-knowledge has been given to you. However, the following of the Agnas will indeed be your experience—bring you to the experience of the Self. Your goal to be the Self will lead you there. If You have made that decision then that aspect will unfold for you.

Unflinching goal of following the Agnas I gave you these five Agnas when I gave you this Gnan. They were given to you for you to practice. The worldly life—sansar is the result of practice—abhyaas. The practice has resulted in its repetitive effect—adhyaas. Why does the worldly interaction become repetitious? Because that has been the repetition. Now if you practice this following of the five Agnas, then the old effect will be shed off.

Questioner : Thus completion— purnataa—total enlightenment happens by itself.

Where, at what point does one need to be— internally—parinati—for one to reach completion automatically?

Dadashri : On the threshold and foundation of following the Agnas, nothing else.

If the deepest inner level—parinati—is established on the following of the Agnasthen one would reach the final destination. Enough, nothing else is necessary. The one whose goal is to follow the Agnas will find himself automatically on the unimpeded path towards total liberation—final moksha. Such a one does not need to do anything.He does not need to 21

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seek any other darshan—vision. He does not need to read anything. If he is following the Agnas he does not even need to meet Dada in person.

Questioner:Meeting is a must. That is included in the Agnas.

Dadashri : The only reason to meet Dada is to get the work done speedily. And if one were to travel along with me for six months, his work will be done, no? He gets established with speed.

For You the following of the Agnas is Dada. A direct one to one meeting is another matter. Otherwise, following the Agnas even when Dada is not around will do. The value is of the Agnas. The direct meeting is to receive the energies directly. The energies are received indirectly through the Agnas, and here they are received directly.

Questioner : The Agna of doing satsang is for the express purpose of following the Agnas?

Dadashri : Everything is meant for You to follow the Agnas. With satsang—the company of the eternal or that which upholds it, all the karma become weak—lose their hold over you. This makes it easier to follow and remain in Agnas. How does a person look after he has had a bath? His laziness and lassitude departs, does it not? Likewise all lassitude leaves after satsang. The sansar—worldly interaction is nothing but sheer koosang—that which takes one away from the Self. One has no choice but to take it, even when one dislikes it.

Questioner : Please explain Dada, how these five Agnas are interlinked and in what manner they support the side of Shuddhatma— pure Self?

Dadashri : Five Agnas is the protection.

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you and everything of Yours. These Agnas protect you from that. These Agnas do not affect the Self in any manner. As it is, in the home or at the office, everywhere in the current era of this time cycle of Kaliyug, there is koosang. Nothing touches the one who follows these Agnas. He remains the eternal blissful Self.

Pratikraman for transgression from the goal It is enough if at night you do pratikraman—internal recall of the error, its repentance and affirmation never to repeat the error—after writing down in your note about all the drifting away from the goal and reviewing that every night.

Questioner : Dada, even now it happens many times that I over eat the food.

But pratikraman happens for the over eating.

Dadashri : There is no problem in that.

Questioner : The way we are doing pratikraman is that, ‘Dear Dada Bhagwan— the Lord within—I have accepted the niyam— discipline from the Gnani Purush. That discipline has been transgressed and for that I ask for Your forgiveness!’ Is it all right if I do pratikraman that way?

Dadashri : So You have adhered to the discipline. It is the body that has gone out of the discipline. This is because You make him do—attend satsang and therefore it is affirmed that You are following the discipline. You want to follow the Agnas.

The grave danger of seeing the fault of the Gnani Do you see a fault in me, sometimes?

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me.When a person uses his intellect he will inevitably see faults, and this leads to his downfall.It will take him to hell and just because he did not understand!Alas! People look at faults even in the Gnani Purush, the one who has the potential for the salvation of the entire world.People do not understand this and that is why I do not allow them to come too close to me, and when I do, it is only for a couple of hours. Niruben is the only one who has not seen faults in me.She has lived with me for so many years and yet she has not seen any faults in me.Not even for a second! That is something! Have you ever seen faults in me sometimes?Not ever?

Questioner : Dada, this science of yours is divine. Here there is no reason for us to look for faults.Not in you, who remain as the absolute Self.

Dadashri : You Jains are good about this; even a small child would say that whatever Dadaji says is correct. Other people are not as sharp.

Questioner : Dada you remain constantly at the level of the subtlest of awareness where there can never be any faults.

So how can one ever see faults in you?

Dadashri : They have no such understanding at all.

Questioner : We should never see the faults of those who remain in the state of absolute awareness regardless of what their external may seem to be.Shrimad Rajchandraji has gone even as far as to say that one should not see faults in a Gnani even if he becomes delirious or outright mad.

Dadashri:But one must have that kind of understanding.It is not easy to understand!

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which we will have to erase.

Dadashri : It is a wonder in itself that people see faults even where they should not!I can destroy their mistakes if they see faults elsewhere, but who will destroy their mistakes if they see faults in me?No one will be there to liberate such a person! That is why I caution people about this matter. The unfortunate people have no insight about this. They have some awareness because they have this Gnan, but only if they are sincere. But they have no understanding of what they are doing. People become trapped by their own intellect and yet they do not realize this.The intellect can trap everyone – it can make you see even what you are not supposed to see.

I must say that Niruben is unique in this matter.She has never had a single negative thought about me. Even if she were to see me hitting someone, she would not question it.She would automatically assume that I am doing it for the benefit of that person.

Questioner:That is the way it is.

Dadashri:How can the intellect of the one who sees my fault reach this understanding?

Questioner:There is nothing but pure compassion and intent of salvation here.

Dadashri:He too will gradually come to appreciate this.

Questioner : How can one see fault in a Gnani, when according to this Gnan one is not to see fault of anyone in this world? The world is to be seen as faultless. It is through one’s own fault that one sees fault in others.

Dadashri : Yes, but the poor man is not aware of this, otherwise he would not do this. He would not take such a risk. It is a grave risk. That is why I asked that gentleman to come after eight o’clock, because if he was to see me drinking one and a half cups of tea, 23

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his intellect will make him question why I have to drink a cup and a half and why can I not be satisfied with just one?

Questioner:All one needs to see is your internal detachment—vitaragata, even when you are drinking tea!

Dadashri : From where will one acquire the ability to see in this way?It is good enough that they find some inner peace because of this Gnan.

Questioner : Dada you say that you never lose sight of your aim for final liberation, not even for a moment.

Dadashri : Not for a minute, not even for a moment.

Questioner : Dada, you have to remain within the limits of this path of liberation; and at the same time carry out your worldly interactions. You have to be careful not to hurt any individual who comes to you, and yet at the same time, you often have to speak harshly with some people in order to help them be rid of their disease, which hinders their spiritual progress.You have to do all this Dada!

We have been talking about not binding any new karma (for effect in the next life) and that is only for the one who is following the Agnas.The karma is bound for not following the Agna.For such a one nothing will be accomplished even if he sits with me all day long (see fault of others and not following Agnas). And the one who has stayed away from me and is following the Agnas, will be definitely liberated. As it is here in my vicinity everyone experiences a tranquil harmony so why would anyone move? Not even a dog will move from here!

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One who remains as the Self—in this world?

Questioner : Dada is laghuttam, no?

Dadashri : Yes, that’s it, all you need to do is observe this laghuttam Purush. And you have to become like him, what else? You do not have to learn anything else from here.

Our mahatmas (those who have acquired the Gnan of the Self) have understood that Dada has taught laghuttam—the state of ultimate humility. Now Dada Himself has become laghuttam, so the others have no choice but to become laghuttam, no? And that is the only goal one should decide. If one wants to achieve real happiness—eternal bliss then, nothing else needs to be done in this world.

We (The Gnani and the Lord within) are sitting in the laghuttam state (the ego-less state) in the relative world, and I am telling you all to become that. I am not saying anything else, am I? I estimate that it is going to take you a year or so to become laghuttam?!

Questioner : But to become laghuttam, is no ordinary feat.

Dadashri : No, It is not that big a feat.

Once You—the awakened Self have decided, ‘I want to become laghuttam.’ then the mind, intellect, chit, and the ego all will keep going in that direction only. Thus they will proceed in the direction of the decided goal. If You say, ‘I want to go Santa Cruz right now, then it— the non-Self complex will go there. Therefore decide the goal.

Nobody in this entire world will ever make a decision to attain the state of ultimate humility. Our mahatmas are the only ones who would make this decision that they want to become the most humble amongst all beings, because they have attained true knowledge.

And the people out there in the world are under the illusion—that which prevents the awareness of the Self.

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Ideal worldly interactions Our vyavahaar—worldly interaction should be ideal. Our—the Gnani Purush and the enlightened Lord within—worldly interaction is like that of a tirthankara—the Lord in human form who liberates millions.

Ideal! What use is there for defective worldly interaction? What type of worldly interaction is necessary? It should be ideal. It should please each and everyone, all the mass of humanity.

Your worldly interaction has improved after coming here, no?

Questioner : It has changed, Dada, it has changed a lot.

Dadashri : It would change. Now, if someone gets irritated with you, you would still continue talking pleasantly with him. Otherwise, what is the nature of this worldly interaction?

If an angry man comes, you become angry, if he comes smiling at you then you smile back.

Then mooah! (Dadashri’s term for shaking up the one he wants to awaken to the reality of the world) If you continue with this kind of vyavahaar then when will it ever end?It is only possible if you bring in the nischaya—inner firm resolution—that no matter how much he pouts and explodes, I am going to remain calm.If one gets angry and you also become angry then it has just begun no?That was how it used to be, no? The moment you saw the anger in his eyes, you used to be ready to throw the counter attack, were you not? Now, what does our science—Akram Vignan say? A person comes to you boiling mad, you remain cool and collected. That is ideal vyavahaar—worldly interaction. Do you feel that such ideal vyavahaar has taken hold?

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interaction. And if the collision happens then does it lead to an immediate process of asking for forgiveness from the other person directly?

That is true vyavahaar. Even if the other person is not asked directly in person for the forgiveness and it is asked for internally, it reaches him. Our vyavahaar is so beautiful that even if you ask for forgiveness in his absence, it definitely reaches him. Such a vyavahaar is shuddha—pure, real vyavahaar.

Despite all this, at one time a person saw a fault of mine in my worldly interaction. He told me, ‘you should have done it this way, this is your fault.’ I replied, ‘brother, you just found out today, but I have known from the very childhood that this—Ambalal is filled with errors.’ Then he countered, ‘no, you were not like this in your childhood, you have become like this now.’ So therefore, all this is seen through individual angles and understandings.

Hence, I always expose myself readily that I have had these deficiencies from the very beginning. This prevents collision and saves the time of the other person. And his suffering is prevented.

Questioner : Is it possible to change the intrinsic nature—swabhaav of the mind, speech and the body?

Dadashri : It is like this, if one does not wish to change it, then it will not change and if one has the goal of changing it, then sooner or later it will change. Whatever aim you decide, it will happen accordingly. But it will not change all of sudden. If you have made a decision for a definite change then, then it will proceed in that direction. If you decided to go in another direction, then it will proceed on that other side. But what if a person has not decided on any goal, then what? Whatever one has filled—puran—charged in the past life, will empty—galan—discharge in this life. Then also one has to make a goal, no?If one has not decided any goal then the faucet will remain 25

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closed. (Nothing new—with reference to liberation will happen).

Nobody is at fault in this world. It is through one’s own fault that one sees fault in others. I have not seen anyone at fault. I simply cannot see anyone at fault at all. What are you seeing?

Someone appears to be at fault, that verily is the sign of the illusion, what else? When there is a quarrel between the mother-in-law and the daughter-in-law, the daughter-in-law thinks that the mother-in-law has been hurtful to her. But when the daughter-in law suffers a stroke and is paralyzed, at that time why does she not blame her mother-in-law for her suffering? When she is suffering the paralysis, will she say that her mother-in-law did this to her? She will not say so, will she? The paralysis makes it evident to her that it has happened from within so it has not come from outside.

That other, the hurting from the mother-in-law which is coming from the external source, its reason is not evident to her. If she were to come to know its real reason her work will be done! She would become a God—become enlightened. It takes time to understand this because half of the time one is walking around intoxicated. Whatever food you eat, it gets converted to a form of alcohol—energy giving fuel and its net effect is that it prevents you from seeing the reality. When a person fasts it decreases the intoxication but then the ego— I am fasting—increases. Alas! When the intoxication decreased, the ego increased! So let lesser of the two evils prevail, let the intoxication remain, rather then letting the ego rise. The one who has fasted, his ego gets very much inflated.

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it is not such a thing that you can just dive into this hole which is seven hundred thousand feet deep. It will come slowly and surely.You just can’t jump into it thinking let me become like Dadaji tomorrow. Only God knows, since how many years Dadaji has been on the path!

Questioner : This is the Akram—stepless path to liberation, is it not, Dada?

Dadashri : Akram is for you all, to me, was it really akram for me? I have reached here through the kramic path, the step-by-step path of spiritual progress.Akram Path has unfolded because your merit karma has come to fruition. I have arrived here on the traditional path. It has taken many life times for me to come here after much arduous spiritual efforts.

Only through that route my goal has been attained.

I have not seen anyone at fault, not even for a moment. Not even a second has passed in which I saw anyone else at fault, because really no one is at fault. The fault that you see in anyone is verily your own fault indeed.

The supreme compassion of the Gnani Purush Whatever rubbish stock was there from the time of each tirthankara—there have been 24 in this half of the time cycle in this world of ours—sweeping of that garbage has come to my task. From the time of Lord Rushabhadev—the first tirthankara, the garbage—those unfit for salvation—has been lying around. Nobody has swept the garbage.

Everybody has been respected by such, ‘welcome sheth—owner of a trade, welcome sir.’ Now if I greet him in the same manner, he will think, ‘I am enlightened, I am there already.’ Dirt will not blow away until I smack them hard to get rid of it. Nobody had blown the dirt, they had left all the garbage as it is, that’s it. Then do you think I feel good about blowing their dirt? What can I do? If I do not August 2006

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smack it off, then the poor fellow will continue to remain mired in the puzzle of life after life wanderings. If someone is filled with dirt does it not need to be cleaned up? Will one get a solution (salvation) without my smacks? So this has come to my task.

Whatever garbage was there at the time of each tirthankara, all that garbage has been piled up. Whichever clean stock was there, that has gone. But whoever used to sit around the tirthankara exclaiming, ‘Oh! Wow!How sweet this speech is! What a speech!’ has slipped life after life and is here as this garbage. These very folks had ordered their wives to send in the pooris—deep fried breads and shaak— vegetable curry so that they could keep listening to the enlightened Lord!He will tell his wife, ‘Bring the poori and shaak here. Do not bring any kandmood—root bulb vegetables!’ But how he loved it? How very much he liked to hear The Lord’s speech! His mind was enthralled, not his heart.

But the tirthankara would not clean everybody’s garbage and they the tirthankaras have the charam—the ultimatesharira—body, the last one before nirvana—attaining the bodiless State. Wherever they barely put their step, that place would become a tirtha—place of pilgrimage. Such tirthankaras do not have to sweep the garbage at all. Their ganadharas—the chief apostle of the tirthankara also did not remove the garbage and all this came to my part. I have had a lot of conversations with the Lord, ‘all this garbage for me My Lord?’ and He has replied, ‘there is no choice but to remove this garbage, is there?’

When can this become spotless? I cannot understand what kind of acid I need to use to clean these heavily stained dishes. Only 2500 years have passed since Lord Mahavir has left.

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this much rust within 2000 years? It has been 5100 years since Lord Krishna has left, since then how much rust has accumulated?

The Vitarag—the fully enlightened Ones have not scolded anyone. How wise they are.

The Vitarag Lords verily are not quarrelsome, even if a disciple happens to betray them; they would not reprimand the disciple. We also have the same goal, no? It just happened that this has come to my part! Twenty four tirthankaras left the stock, ‘go ahead later on ‘Dada’ will come, so go there’. Thereafter it came to our— the Gnani and the enlightened Lord within— share of spiritual work. Behind our scolding lies pure natural compassion. Our swabhaav— the nature of the Self—is vitarag—without any attachment. ‘Jeva rogo teva aushadha, Shreemukh vani zarate—as the diseases, so the medicines, the speech flows through the divine mouth’, thus the speech comes forth according to the naimittic—instrumental cause—interaction.

This time cycle era is such that, through my compassion laden intellect, very harsh speech flows forth. What can one do to the vegetable which is frozen in the refrigerator?

Only by adding soda the vegetable can be fixed for consumption. So I have to add soda and some other things! Would I like to do such a thing?

This vitarag speech of Ours—The Gnani Purush in whom the Lord of the 14 worlds has manifest—will clean all the dirt in you. I will not need to move around physically to do so. People will enjoy the happiness of Satyug— era of harmony in thoughts, speech and deeds—which they never had enjoyed at any time. The reign of Lord Mahavir will shine brilliantly, more magnificent and radiant than the reign of any other tirthankara! The reign of no other tirthankara will be able to match the uniqueness of this One! Jai Sat Chit Anand 27

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