I am not the wrong or the right

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Deepak Desai May 2009 Vol. : 4, Issue : 7 Conti. Issue No.: 43

DADAVANI I am not the wrong or the right

Publisher, Owner & Printed by : Deepak Desai on behalf of Mahavideh Foundation, 5, Mamtapark Soc., Usmanpura, Ahmedabad-380014 Gujarat, India.

EDITORIAL The one who for infinite life times has been walking with the wrong vision, begins to take the right path through the right vision obtained through the grace of the Gnani Purush. After attaining Atmagnan—Self-realization, wrong gnan knowledge leaves and one attains right gnan knowledge. One realizes, ‘I am pure Soul,’ and ‘I am not Chandulal.’ Darshan moha—illusion of ‘I am Chandulal’ goes away and charitra moha discharge moha remains. One has to bring about settlement of this discharge moha with equanimity by staying in the Agna of the Gnani Purush.

After attaining the nirvikalp state - ‘I am Shuddhatma’, right or wrong karma will unfold through file number one-‘Chandulal’ because the prakruti the formed non-Self complex is unwinding.

Just as our prakruti is unwinding similarly the other person’s prakruti also is unwinding. And these results of the non-Self are dependent on circumstances. Elemental vision shows only two things: the pure Soul and circumstances. Circumstance is neither wrong nor right. Wrong or right is relative view. Circumstances by nature are pone to dissociate. Circumstances arise to empty their space. Therefore we have to practice adeetha tapa internal penance. Internal penance is the fourth core pillar for the traveler on path of liberation.

The conviction, ‘I am Shuddhatma’ has been attained. Now the endeavor with jagruti awakened awareness is to come in the right direction, the direction of the Self. One cannot remain as the Self in exactness as long as complete experience of the Self is lacking, until then the Purusharth highest endeavor as the Self—has to be the movement in the right direction, away from the wrong one. Now after attaining this Gnan, it is necessary to make right that which was done wrong. That which was not settled with equanimity needs to be settled with equanimity. So by dividing with the number by which it was multiplied and multiplying with the number by which it was divided, one has to bring it all to zero.

The kind of awareness one has to keep is that anything that creates a wrong effect is ‘not mine,’ and that which is ‘Mine’ can never create a wrong effect. We must not forget that our goal is to bring about completion of what has commenced through pratiti conviction. Worshipping of the Self is the experience as the Self. I want to reach up to complete and distinct experience of the Self spashta vedan in this very life by climbing the steps of experience. To complete this firm resolution, the more you follow the Agna, the greater will be the breakage of the veils and the awareness will increase and afterwards you will continue to climb the steps of experience.

What is called the stage of the experience of the Self? As long as anything relative affects you, there is weakness. That matter by which the world does not affect You, by that much the experience has been attained. Finally you have to come to that stage of experience that both the wrong and the right are the results of the non-Self and ‘I am such the absolute Soul, the gnatadrashta—knower-seer of those non-Self results.’ This Dadavani will be very helpful to all mahatmas in attaining what it takes to reach the final goal of moksha. ~ Deepak Desai

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I am not the wrong or the right (Please note that ‘S’ for Self, or ‘Y’ for You, refers to the awakened one in Akram Vignan, or the eternal

Self. The ‘s’ for self refers to the worldly self. For a detailed glossary please see: www.dadashri.org/ glossary.html)

Who contemplates on the Soul?

Questioner: ‘The soul (atma, the Self) becomes what it contemplates (chintavan)’; so who does the contemplation here?

Dadashri: The pratishthit atma, the relative-self, does the contemplation, not the real Self. The one that does the bhaav of contemplation, the one who holds the bhaav of, ‘I am contemplating,’ is the pratishthit atma. The real Atma is not like that. It is absolutely pure – pure as gold.

So what ‘we—the Gnani Purush and the fully enlightened Self within’ are saying is that one will become the Self if one contemplates on the shuddha, the real Self.

And one will become something else if he contemplates on that something else.

Questioner: But is that not a contemplation of the pratishthit atma?

Dadashri: Yes, it is. The pure Soul, the Self, does not do anything. If the pratishthit atma turns ‘this way’ towards the Self, it will become Shuddhatma and if it turns the ‘wrong way,’ away from the Self, then the wrong result will occur. That is what ‘we’ are saying. So everything goes on according to the right or wrong conviction that is established in a person about the worldly things. The one who has a wrong conviction will continue to wander around in the worldly life and if it turns right then it will take him to moksha. However a nimit evidentiary instrument is required to establish the right conviction.

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contemplation (chintavan of Shuddhatma) will occur continuously. However, the complaint such as, ‘I am like this…this happened to me,’ etc., is all an illusion (moha). Even this interaction with me (satsang) is moha, but it is charitra moha—a discharging effect. What is charitra moha? It is that which is shed when one employs equanimity. It will then not touch or affect him again, whereas the other moha, the true moha, will not refrain from sticking to you. Because the illusion that charges karma (darshan moha) is gone, only discharging illusion (charitra moha) remains for you. This is called discharge moha.

Those who do not have Gnan still have the belief, ‘I am like this’ or ‘I am like that,’ in their discharging illusion and, therefore, they become that which they believe. After attaining the Self, the Gnan, there is awareness of, ‘I am pure Soul…I am Shuddhatma,’ and so one continues to become pure (shuddha).

Whatever is going to happen to ‘Chandulal’ will continue to happen. Whatever is in the nature of his prakruti, will continue to unfold.

‘You’ do not have anything to do with that. All you have to do is settle everything with equanimity.

Wrong or right is of prakruti only Once one says ‘I am Shuddhatma,’ he starts to become nirvikalp (‘I am Chandulal’ is vikalp. ‘I am Shuddhatma’ is nirvikalp) and except this if one utters other things like, ‘I am like this’ or ‘I am like that,’ all that is vikalp. Worldly life arises due to this. And when one holds, ‘I am Shuddhatma,’ then he will remain in nirvikalp state. Now in spite of this for Chandubhai—the relative self, both the May 2009

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tasks will continue. Will the right or the wrong work continue or not? The nature of prakruti is such that it will not refrain from doing wrong or right. Nobody can do only the right thing. Someone may do a few things wrong and someone may do more things wrong.

You do not want to do wrong, even then it may happen therefore make a decision— nischaya that ‘I am Shuddhatma’ and then You ‘see’ all the right and the wrong. This is because if something wrong happens to him—the non-Self, then You should not think that You did it wrong, my Shuddhatma is ruined. Shuddhatma means it is your core root Self only. These wrong or right things are only the results which have come in to effect. These are the results of the mistakes committed in the past. Keep ‘seeing’ those results, settle with equanimity. Wrong or right exists in the language of the worldly people.

There is nothing wrong or right in the language of the Lord.

Questioner: When I say ‘I am Shuddhatma’, is it the pratishthit atma the charged relative self saying this?

Dadashri: Pratishthit atma will not speak that. Pragnya energy of the awakened Self that is separated within during Selfrealization and leads one to ultimate liberation, says, ‘I am Shuddhatma’ and it ‘sees’ this pratishthit atma—the discharging non-Self complex, ‘what this ‘top—the unwinding prakruti wound in past life,’ is doing! It becomes Shuddhatma and ‘sees’ the relative self.

Questioner: Does pragnya ‘see’ this?

Dadashri: Pragnya indeed will take over all the work until final liberation— moksha. Pragnya will unite with Shuddhatma as soon as this stock—discharging karma is finished.

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Even when the wrong or the right happens Once one becomes the gnatadrashta—knower-seer samkit right vision has been attained. When one becomes the knower and the seer of all that is going on, when doership leaves and thus becomes gnatadrashta then it means that is all done. Within, it all must remain constantly and continuously separate. One must not be pulled into the web of deception-illusion again. With this state of continuous separation one attains moksha in the maximum period of fifteen life times, regardless of the nature of the discharging karma.

Questioner: If one becomes free once even then he can go to moksha within fifteen life times?

Dadashri: Yes, if one remains separate within, then regardless of whatever is happening, the right or the wrong, if he stays separate within, he will attain moksha within fifteen life times.

Questioner: That means he has to remain separate, only then?

Dadashri: That is why care has to be exercised, because he—the discharging self behaving as ‘I am Chandulal,’ becomes too involved in the illusion. Then how can one be sure no matter how severe the discharge is?

Questioner: Now I am having that sure feeling that I will indeed be liberated.

Dadashri: You definitely will become free forever. But your vision must not change, the illusion must not take hold again.

Questioner: That will not happen.

Sometimes it happens for few moments but then it resets to its place.

Dadashri: It resets. It will try to slip but if the Self—potey, the awakened one— 3

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does not let go of the drashti vision then it is done. Our Gnan is such that it never becomes absorbed tanmayakar in the non-Self and become the body and the mind. One does not understand but this Gnan verily is such by its nature. Say for instance if we have yogurt and if we mix it by churning and remove the butter and again if we mix this butter with buttermilk and if we churn it again then that butter will not become one with buttermilk, it will remain separate. Similarly the Atma—the Self, which ‘we’ (The Gnani Purush and the fully enlightened Lord within) have given to you, remains separate and separate and will not get mixed. ‘Potey – the awakened Self’ may get confused but will not become absorbed tanmayakar, will not become the non-Self.

The part that creates confusion and doubt needs to be removed by attaining understanding by coming in satsang.

Taking the right path will clear the matter Questioner: While meditating on Shuddhatma—pure Soul, when I say, ‘I am Shuddhatma’; is it the Purush—the Self or the prakruti—the relative self that is saying it?

Dadashri: It is the ‘I’ speaking. The Self that you have become, that ‘I’ is saying this. Previously, the ‘I’ that was there was saying ‘I am Chandubhai’. Now, ‘I’ has become Shuddhatma—pure Soul, and that is the one who says this. The ‘I’ that was there previously, that ‘I’ was the false assertion ‘I am Chandubhai’ aropit bhaav now it has come the Self-state swabhav. The Purush— the awakened Self is now saying this.

Questioner: When we do Vidhi—the process of laying the forehead at the feet of the Gnani Purush and repeating ‘I am Shuddhatma—pure Soul’; what happens at that time?

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Dadashri: The outer part becomes stable and still and then he experiences that stillness at that time.

Questioner: Does it mean that there— at the feet of the Gnani—he becomes steadier and elsewhere outside he remains unstable and more so?

Dadashri: By placing the forehead here, he becomes still. Once the stillness begins your message reaches there. When you speak ‘I am pure Soul—Shuddhatma’, it reaches the swabhav natural state of the Self, and dayby-day the veils of ignorance avaran are broken and shed.

Questioner: Is the ‘I’ prakruti—the non-Self complex or is it Atma—the Self?

Dadashri: ‘I’? The word ‘I’ is a different thing. The word ‘I’ has been misused. If ‘I’ is used for Shuddhatma—pure Soul-the Self, there is no objection about that and if it is used elsewhere, if it is used as false assertion of ‘I am Chandubhai, aropit bhaav’ it is egoism. Therefore, the worldly people are in egoism. This is further exercised as, ‘I am a guru,’ and guru means heavy and heavy means he will sink!

Thus, the ‘I am’ was being used at the wrong place. The existence is verily there. He knows that ‘I am’ but because there is no awareness of ‘who I am’ he keeps on saying ‘I am Chandulal’, ‘I am a doctor’, ‘I am a collector’, ‘I am his brother-in-law’. All this has now been proven wrong. And now, ‘I am Shuddhatma—pure Soul’ is proven right.

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direction before. ‘I am Chandulal, I am Chandulal’-you had said before and now you say, ‘I am Shuddhatma, I am Shuddhatma’ for equal number of times and you will progress further.

Questioner: So it is the ego that is saying all this, no? The one that had gone in the wrong direction is now saying, ‘I am pure Soul.’

Dadashri: ‘I’, the ‘I’ is saying this; the ego does not say this. The ego remains separate. The ego does not speak. ‘I’, ‘I’ is verily the Self. Now the Self cannot speak.

But now, the process has turned towards the Self. We speak Shuddhatma—pure Soul, but Shuddhatma is not a word. Now as your conviction shraddha turns, as your belief turns, the avaran veil of ignorance will continue to break. This is the thing that will break the veils of illusion. But the existence of ‘I’, the awareness of ‘I am Shuddhatma’ is the verily the awakening. The change has occurred in the awareness. If there is ego, it will be useless and will not bring the intended result. The ego is a different matter altogether. The ego has nothing to do with this. After the melting of the ego the awareness of the Self arises, this is the awakening bhaan. All this is called the interim state.

How can prakruti be changed?

Questioner: How can the nature of the prakruti, which has been established for many years, be changed?

Dadashri: If You ‘know’ your prakruti—the formed complex of mind, speech and body—that this is a fault in this prakruti, if you know this much then it is enough, that means your nature has changed.

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Purush—Self to know a mistake as a mistake.

It is a prakruti and prakruti will not change.

The prakruti which is already formed, will not leave its nature.

Questioner: Will the faults of the prakruti decrease by ‘seeing’ the prakruti?

Dadashri: Except that there is no other way at all. If You have the intent to be rid of the mistakes then they will decrease and if You do not then they will remain.

Questioner: But many qualities of the prakruti are good too and many qualities are bad too.

Dadashri: If you want to purge all of them, then do so. Or purge those, which are wrong and are hurtful to you.

Wrong understanding is unhappinesspain dukha and right understanding is happiness-pleasure sukha. ‘You’ have to ‘see’ what understanding arises. If you become entangled with wrong understanding then there is unhappiness, unhappiness and unhappiness and if the wrong entanglement leaves then there is happiness, happiness and happiness. There is no other happiness-unhappiness in this world at all.

Samkit means right vision. What does the wrong vision do? ‘This person created a loss for me,’ ‘this person caused me a profit,’ ‘this person insulted me,’ ‘this person gave me unhappiness,’ ‘this person gave me happiness,’ one will say this. There is no one out there who gives you unhappiness or happiness.

Everything is within only.

Anger-pride-deceit-greed are verily the ones that give you unhappiness and these verily are your enemies. There is no one as your enemy outside. All are nimit an evidentiary instrument out there. Wrong vision makes one to bite a nimit. If you get samkit right vision 5

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then know that you have attained the solution.

One must make a decision Questioner: Many times You say that make a bhaav deep inner intent. But You do remove the bhaav when you give this Gnan.

Dadashri: This bhaav is the nischaya decision. Puran influx bhaav is gone, galan out flux bhaav remains. Charge bhaav is gone, now discharge bhaav remains.

Questioner: Now there is nothing left to do in discharge bhaav, is there? It is happening by itself, is it not?

Dadashri: But one must decide that inner intent. One must decide the town (goal) he wants to visit.

Questioner: So does the meaning of bhaav intent become a nischaya decision?

Dadashri: You have to make decision for that which does not happen. Yes, if you make a decision, then it will happen. If you keep waiting thinking that it is Vyavasthit, will it work then? You should not take the meaning of Vyavasthit like that.

Everything is happening, but you cannot speak that everything is happening, because that means you are avoiding making an effort.

If one remains the ‘seer’ of what is happening, then it is vyavasthit. But one will not have such continuous awareness. Then he will say, ‘everything is happening.’ If one speaks like this then everything will go wrong. You simply need to ‘see’ what Chandulal is doing. You need to ‘do’ only that much.

There is no give and take between the Self and the non-Self Questioner: Dada, You have given us the Self, now how can the complete experience of the Self be maintained the whole day?

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Dadashri: Yes. The one who used to stay wrong has now begun to stay right, so now you have to proceed ahead by getting the correct answers. If there is a loss of five hundred then it is settled but if you have a loss of five thousand then it will take time; there You have to keep ‘seeing’ only.

Questioner: That is right.

Dadashri: That which used to attract you—bhaav, on that very thing you need to repel. So if dislike—abhaav prevails then know that you used to like it a lot before, and now its result is dislike and it feels bitter.

You will not understand if ‘You - the Self’ sit on the side of the non-Self. If You want to become free then it is possible to understand everything. What do You need from that (non-Self, pudgal) side? There is nothing to be taken or given.

Action is of the ego and the Self is the ‘Knower’ of that Questioner: Is it possible to remain in shuddha upayoga—pure applied awareness as the Self, at the time of making a schedule in daily vyavahar worldly interaction?

Dadashri: The one who is asking the question, can I remain in shuddha upayoga during worldly interaction, either does not know what shuddha upayoga is or what the vyavahar worldly interaction is.

Questioner: Please explain this further.

Dadashri: Every vyavahar worldly interaction, action and a gnata-knower go along together. The vyavahar of both is together only.

Questioner: Are they definitely together in vyavahar?

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everything is together, but ‘He’ does not have the awareness of that.

mine; what else is there then? I used to become the owner.

Questioner: So Dada, the one who conducts the vyavahar, the one who does the work and the Gnata-Knower who ‘sees’ this, both are indeed separate but are together.

Dadashri: You have to quit that ownership. This useless burden….

Dadashri: Vyavahar is called action kriya and this upayoga applied Self awareness is called Gnan. On one side You ‘see’ and action happens on the other side. Both go on together only. They never go on independently—separate from each other.

Every time the Self is present for sure. The Self cannot be absent. Action may be absent.

Questioner: To keep awareness at the time of every action is the main thing, isn’t it?

Dadashri: Awareness does not have to be kept; it is there for sure. This is just that one interferes in a wrong manner, and therefore it becomes wrong. The Self is always there, where else can He go? Then who does the work at the time of doing that work? Ego does the action; Gnata-the Knower-the Self ‘sees’ that. He ‘sees’ where it was done properly and where it is done improperly. How such error occurred? The Self ‘sees’ all this. Later this becomes exact for Him.

Questioner: Dada, when you gave us Gnan at that time we have surrendered, but we are taking back secretly.

Dadashri: This is so because you have been practicing the wrong. If a doctor tells you not to eat with your right hand or else it will hurt you more. Yet the right hand will go in the plate at the time of eating. So the line of demarcation has been laid down, that it is ‘not mine –not of the Self’. And You should keep this much in your mind that what gives you unhappiness, creates some wrong effect then that is ‘not mine’. And that which is ‘mine— the Self’ will not create an effect. That’s it; understand these two things. It is easy, isn’t it?

That’s it!

The cause of the veiling of energies Questioner: So the one who ‘sees’ this, does he not speak anything at all? He simply ‘sees’?

Our science says that this line of demarcation has been drawn. Thereafter this is not your plant. If you believe it is yours then it will hurt you. Why this plant dried up? Hey brother! But it is not yours. This belongs to other—the non-Self. That which is not yours you believe to be yours, from that point the error starts.

Dadashri: There is no boss over the one who ‘sees.’ No one is there to reprimand him; nothing is there. Infinite energies are lying there. But you are protecting Chandubhai, so all the energies remain veiled. You are protecting Chandubhai, and you are doing it openly, are you not? That is why energies do not blossom. Also, if one abides by the Agnas, then samadhi—the state in which no situation in the relative world affects the inner bliss, will not leave. You sit on your chair and Chandubhai will keep sitting on his chair. The trouble is that you are trying to sit on Chandubhai’s chair!

You have this previous habit, true?

Questioner: Now I realized that I should definitely let go of that which is not

You should move from outside and sit on your seat. Now which is your seat? There

That which creates wrong effect is ‘not mine’

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are four to five kinds of seats inside. Which one is your seat? It is the one where you feel completely easy; that is your seat. If you feel the slightest conflict, then know that You are on the wrong seat. If it pricks you or if you feel a shock, then You should know that you got shocked. Without sitting on any of those seats, You should sit on your seat.

on the wrong seat, get off and come back to Your own seat. Thereafter, keep ‘seeing’ it.

Say, ‘Chandubhai, why are you getting confused?’

Someone may praise you, ‘Chandubhai, you are a very competent, very nice man.’

Just because he lays on the butter, should You succumb to it? ‘Chandubhai, that seat is not ours. Dada removed us from there.’ The belief, ‘I am Chandubhai,’ is why we used to take a beating.

Dadashri: Who becomes angry, You just have to ‘see’ that.

The price of sitting on the wrong seat Any suffering felt is the sign that You are on the wrong seat, not Your seat. You should get up from there and take the seat of Shuddhatma—pure Soul. You (addressing a person near him) should sit on Your seat but you remain seated in the other seat, as if you are going to pay twice the fare. If the slightest wrong thought arises in the mind, You should know immediately that you are on the wrong seat and that You are not on Your seat. You should go to Your seat immediately. But you do remain seated for a long time, don’t you?

Questioner: Yes, Dada. It happens like that.

Dadashri: That is why your face looks awful. I wondered, ‘Why does this face look awful?’ If any difficulty arises, then You should go onto your seat immediately. Where mistakes have happened, you should ask for forgiveness.

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When Chandubhai becomes obstinate Questioner: I get angry even after taking this Gnan, so is it called discharge too?

Questioner: If anger arises repeatedly and often even then it is called discharge?

Dadashri: Whether it comes hundred times or five hundred times, everything is called discharge only, isn’t it? ‘You’ should say, ‘Chandubhai, you keep getting angry so ask for forgiveness from everybody.’ Don’t you say like that? Fault had been committed.

Questioner: ‘I’ tell him-Chandulal the file one—a lot, ‘I’ reprimand Chandubhai a lot, but even then he becomes obstinate, so then what should I do?

Dadashri: If he became obstinate, then ‘You’ have to keep ‘seeing’. Nothing needs to be done. There is no energy in the Self to do anything at all. The nature of the Self is inactive and the Self is a gnata-drashtaparmanandi—knower-seer-absolute bliss.

All the actions are of this pudgal—the nonSelf complex. All the actions are of the jada—matter.

Questioner: Chandubhai becomes obstinate and strikes the other person then what should ‘I’ do?

Dadashri: You should tell, ‘Chandubhai, you became obstinate so ask for forgiveness.’

How beautiful this Akram Science is that You do not have to do anything and on the contrary You have to tell Chandubhai, you have to reprimand, ‘why did you get angry at him?

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Why are you doing like this?’ You should tell Chandubhai, ‘I will do everything whatever you say but you stay according to ‘My’ dictate for one hour.’ You have to stay one hour in Dada’s Agna and then do according to Chandubhai’s dictate. You have to take care of him too. If he is making you to do contrary to your goal then You should not listen or agree.

Wrong or right intent, both are of the pudgal Questioner: You were giving an example that if someone comes at twelve o’clock midnight to your home and if your bhaav inner intent and view does not spoil that is called purusharth and if it does not affect you at all that is called parakram extraordinary purusharth.

Dadashri: You do not have to make that bhaav deep inner intent, You have to ‘see’ that. You are not doing that wrong bhaav.

The one who does a wrong bhaav is separate.

‘You’ have to ‘see’ that. You can understand only if we give you an example otherwise how can you understand?

The doer of that wrong bhaav is the pudgal the non-Self complex and ‘You’ are ‘Shuddhatma’. The one who does a wrong bhaav is the pudgal and the one who does a right bhaav is also the pudgal. But whatever the pudgal does; a wrong or a right bhaav, ‘Shuddhatma’ is the ‘knower’ of that. ‘We’ are saying that if he-it-pudgal-did wrong bhaav and if he changes to a right, ‘You’ have to ‘see’ both. However it should not be a wrong bhaav that is what we are trying to say and even if it does wrong bhaav then ‘You’ should remain as the gnata-drashta— knower-seer.

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immediately place a protective correction vaaran, do not have even a slightest negative thought for that person. Believe that he is doing you a tremendous favor and be infinitely grateful to him.

Filled stock must come out Questioner: Dada, if some incident has happened that is harmful to our goal, now if I evaluate this whole incident in my mind and understand thoroughly, so that from now onwards such incident should not occur again.

Dadashri: No. That will definitely happen. It must happen. If it does not then it is wrong. The stock that will come out depends on how much was filled in the past life. If it was not filled then it will not occur. You have to keep doing pratikraman (reversal of aggression created through thoughts, speech or action). ‘It should not occur,’ who is that ‘doer’ of this again? The ‘doer’ has become the ‘non-doer’. One says this due to lack of understanding.

Questioner: Dada, such thing happens.

That is why I asked that why such thing happens again?

Dadashri: Suppose you had done something wrong or negative, then what can happen? It will not happen in every task, it will happen only in certain tasks.

Questioner: How can the energy of taking that bodha knowledge and taaran quick final assessment blossom, Dada?

Dadashri: You do have energy within.

You have taken bodha knowledge of the Self too. You know that it is wrong too, but it will not stop, will it? The more amount of stock has been filled so it will not stop and if it was less then it would stop.

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so pure then I will attain moksha after one to two more lives, is that so?

We have attained right circumstance through discovery of vyavasthit

Dadashri: The Self has become pure.

Now you have to be free of your shop. You were a businessman, so you used to grow your business. Thereafter you got tired and became unhappy. Then you thought, ‘what the heck, now I want to get rid of this shop.’ So you started to close down the business. But how can you be rid this completely? You can but only if you meet some Gnani Purush in this life. Gnani Purush will show you the ways to be rid of this shop. You should follow the rules which the Gnani Purush gives to you and settle all with equanimity.

Questioner: This is vyavasthit. What causes had been laid down for this? Where did Dada discover vyavasthit?

Out of ignorance one may misuse vyavasthit These thought-speech-action, are under the control of vyavasthit scientific circumstantial evidences and through inspiration of vyavasthit only this mind-speech-body are working, however one says, ‘I govern, I am running this.’ You do not need to create such spandan vibration in this. Why are you creating vibrations? You remain in your state of the Self, why are you doing egoism? Did you understand what I am trying to say? That all this is under the control of vyavasthit only, and vyavasthit is verily governing. It remains vyavasthit only.

However this Gnan is such that it cannot be given to everyone. This is because until the knowledge of the Self is established, if we give Gnan of vyavasthit then he will say that everything outside is vyavasthit except my own self and so then he will remain asleep, he will say there is no problem. Therefore he will do wrong bhaav and his next life will be ruined.

He will not have a loss in this life because his vyavasthit is such that in this life he will not have a loss. It is worth understanding this.

This talk is very profound.

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Dadashri: For many lives I was looking for only that, on what basis all this is running?

People say that ‘my karma are running this.’

So mooah (the classic idiom used by Dadashri to awaken the one who is dying from the day he entered this world), who set the sun and the moon? All these miseries arise then who is doing them? Who is responsible? This vyavasthit is the invention of many lives. A very great discovery has been given in this kaal the current era of the time cycle. That is why ‘we’ have said that power, majesty and efficacy of this Gnan will remain for eighty thousand years. Thereafter a Tirthankara will come and then this power will dissipate. There is no need of anything else when a Tirthankara is present. As long as such a Purush is not around how can people resolve this puzzle?

How can even they spend a day? How can they pass a day if a wrong thought comes within?

Even ‘we’ did not know that such Gnan is going to manifest. However this vyavasthit is our search and discovery of many lives.

Many lives we have lived in sansar worldly life without doing any kriya actions. Just to see, to check whether it runs or stops.

Questioner: Without doing anything?

Dadashri: So after seeing the total account the conclusion was arrived at, that this is the fact. Thereafter I have given you that fact. If I give you just like that then people would sustain a loss. That would be like guiding people on a wrong path.

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veiled again and that is how the life will run like a worn out cart. Fortunate people will take advantage of this Gnan and get their work done by attaining liberation.

Only that which discharges is Vyavasthit Questioner: Can an agnani one who has not received the Gnan of the Self and the doer, go beyond vyavasthit?

Dadashri: How is vyavasthit? Only discharge is vyavasthit. Charge is not vyavasthit.

Questioner: New charging may be anything.

Dadashri: Anything may get charged.

If someone instigates then totally new kind of karma will charge.

One becomes free when file one walks in the right direction Whatever happens in vyavasthit, you should not make that avyavasthit upset the orderly discharge and therefore delay the process through interference.

Questioner: It still happens on rare occasions in vyavahar worldly interaction, so then what should I do?

Dadashri: You should reprimand Chandubhai a little at night, if you do like this for a month then he will stop.

It is such that nothing happens outside the vyavasthit in vyavahar at all. And as much you are trying to change your vyavahar that much egoism is filled within. Therefore you have to understand that this is vyavasthit then why do you need to make it avyavasthit?

Even then if it came out in speech then it is previously filled stock. This is Akram and we have attained the Self here without clearing the karma, so stock filled in past life will come out.

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Questioner: But sometime I have to say something deliberately, and that is why I am asking.

Dadashri: No, there is nothing in this world that you have to say for the sake of saying. If someone asks then you can answer.

If he asks what do I have to do with this?

Then you can tell. Otherwise, you should keep in your mind that it would be better if he does not ask you. But you keep giving merchandise without asking. If a customer says no and if you keep insisting that he buy the goods, will he not feel angry? Then that customer will hit you on your head. But if he asks then you have to answer him. If someone comes to ask me a question then I would ‘know’ the externally induced disturbance upadhi. If he wants to ask about religion then it is fine. But if he wants to ask about vyavahar then it feels like an upadhi. But ‘we’ would not speak anything in vyavahar worldly interaction. If there is more salt in food even then why would ‘we’ speak? If we speak then only trouble will arise, will it not?

The vyavahar which vyavasthit runs is shuddha vyavahar pure worldly interaction and when You interfere in the non-Self then it became ashuddha impure, so You should not create dakho interference and when interference occurs means karma are not cleared that is why it happens. So ‘You’ should sit down at night and reprimand ‘Chandubhai – the relative self’. You should say that, ‘you had fight with your son on that day for no reason, You had fight with this daughter-inlaw. You did wrong, you should not do such things, can you do like that?’ So You should reprimand him. And if You reprimand him for a month then Chandubhai will stop.

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wrong path believing the wrong thing, and if Chandubhai goes on the wrong way, Yours will too.

You want to go to Poona and Chandubhai got in to the train that is going towards Ahmadabad then You also have to go to Ahmadabad, don’t you? Therefore You have to keep looking for the ways for Chandubhai so he can walk on the right path, so Chandubhai will be free and You will also become free.

Questioner: I know that it is the ego and yet it takes over the control.

Dadashri: There is no harm if it takes control over you. It is a fact that it took control and that is why it happened. You do not have any control over it. But you can discipline him at night, can’t you? You should keep a note that ‘he had done like this at certain time, he had done this at certain time, he had useless fight with this person.’ You have to reprimand Chandubhai for all this, and thus You are free.

Thereafter You are not responsible, and so the responsibility of Chandubhai goes away. Since You become free from your responsibility, Chandubhai also becomes free from his responsibility and if someone is hurt then do pratikraman, You should say, ‘Chandubhai, you did atikraman (aggression through thoughts, speech and acts—happens in the form of kashays: anger-pride-deceit-greed), so do pratikraman (reversal of aggression created through thoughts, speech or action).’

Questioner: Due to increase in vyavahar worldly interaction, less time is spent in remaining in Agnas.

Dadashri: Vyavahar is verily as much as you have, new vyavahar is not going to arise. So everything is getting resolved. There is no reason to worry. You must resolve to follow all the Agnas.

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The number of files is in direct proportion to the number of circumstances and they are by nature prone to dissociate. Therefore settle with equanimity.

Now it is necessary to change from wrong to right Questioner: Why is it necessary for us to settle this file with equanimity?

Dadashri: Before you have done wrong so now you have to make it right. You have not maintained equanimity; you have done wrong way therefore now you have to maintain equanimity. When you have a sum that is the result of multiplication, then now you have to divide it to arrive at the original value; and if the sum that presents now is the result of division then you have to multiply to arrive at the undivided value. Therefore, both need to be brought to zero, which is the basis and meaning of settling with equanimity.

Equanimity against sticky files The ‘sticky—that which sticks on like glue’ file—karmik account presenting through an individual, would be around you only, not wandering away far outside anywhere. Sticky means even if we wash with soap, it will not get cleaned. What will happen if we rub soap on a cloth soiled with tar? The tar on the contrary will stain the soap. Such are these files! You should apply awakened awareness in these instances that, ‘sir, now what should I do?’ My soap is very precious and when I rubbed it on this (tar laden file), it soiled my soap. When the Gnani Purush will bring kerosene then soak it in it. It may waste two liters of the kerosene, but keep it soaked in it, and it will be cleansed. Gnani Purush shows the way. Otherwise it will not get cleaned with that water. The more you pour the water the stickier it will become. Our people keep pouring water (ignorance) on the sticky file.

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Cannot break the deep inner intent of equanimity Questioner: Now if that file is an obstruction in the path of my liberation, and it does not settle with equanimity, then can I red flag and file it away high up on the shelf and say, ‘I will take care of you when I am ready and alert. But right now you leave.’ Will it work or not?

Dadashri: You don’t have to do such a thing. You have to make the intent that, ‘I want to settle with equanimity,’ nothing else.

So your deep inner intent will not spoil for the opposing person, the file. Whether it happens or not, why do you need to worry? Why are you doing the difficult thing leaving aside such an easy thing? It is so simple and easy. It is simple because You just have to follow the Agna. You don’t have to see anything else.

Other than this, it is not possible for human being to do. If settlement does not occur with equanimity then what can else be done there?

Do you need to take unnecessary trouble?

Can you bang your head like they bang a coconut? Whatever happens is right and correct. Yes, Your intent should be exact.

Questioner: Often times we ask from You, ‘Dada, You bestow upon me the energy to bring about settlement of these files.’

Dadashri: Yes, you should ask for that too. But after requesting you should keep on doing your work. You should not leave the request. If the file is powerful then you have to ask for it. But you should not wait after asking for it. To wait for anything is an offence.

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complains on the basis of karma. He may even complain after the settlement. What You have to decide is that You want to settle with every file. ‘I want to settle every file with equanimity, come what may,’ must be Your tenacious decision. You don’t need to see whether it happens accordingly or not. What may happen due to which karma coming into fruition is not something that you can understand. But since You made a decision not to commit any fault, You have become faultless. No matter how bad that file may be, no matter how good it may be, you don’t need to see whether it is your fault or his fault, You don’t need to see that, Your only duty is to settle the file with equanimity.

You have decided so there is no problem.

How much you are responsible for? You are responsible for Your lack of decision. People will behave wrong with wrong and right with right people and will keep on doing topsyturvy things, but we have to remain right with wrong people and right with right people too and we want to remain proper with everybody, because we are travelers of another town, not of this town. We are traveler of moksha marg path of liberation, not the traveler of sansar worldly life interaction. If you are the traveler of sansar marg then you have to leave the wrong thing and do the good things.

Questioner: Dada, even then occasionally, all of sudden, the bomb is thrown and he—the non-Self explodes.

Dadashri: That will happen, no problem. You don’t have to worry. He explodes, You have to ‘see’ that too, ‘Wow Chandulal! you still have some bombs,’ You have to bother Chandulal a little, not reprimand too much.

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and what is my fault?’ Such things should not be there. Fault is only ours. It is not question of whose fault is this. You have to settle with equanimity.

When can we say that the file has been settled?

Questioner: Dada, when can we say that these sticky files dissolved completely?

Dadashri: If he speaks negative about you and even then you do not feel hurt in your mind then it is dissolved. First it will happen from your side, after then it will clear from that file’s side. If you make a sound from one side then it will make a counter-sound (echo). It will last up to a certain limit and then your sound will stop so that echo will stop. So whatever that file does, either wrong or right, you should not have abhorrence dwesh towards him. Then you become free.

Questioner: If it is dissolved from our side but what if from other side it is not dissolved?

Dadashri: You do not have to see that.

If you have not hurt that file from your side then you will not feel the hurt. If you have abhorrence then you will feel the hurt. If you do not have abhorrence then you will not feel the hurt at all.

Whatever is happening is verily justice Questioner: But Dada, what happens here is that if some work has been assigned to a group of mahatmas, the moment they see Dada they run to Dada leaving their work behind, now what should I do about that? For me, I feel that what I am doing here is for Dada and that Dada is present here, and I do not need to go there.

Dadashri: Everyone’s prakruti the relative self is not like that, is it?

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Questioner: Dada, but it has happened like that in every respect, it has become like that of gopis (dairy working women who were deeply attached to Lord Krishna). Everybody’s condition has become like gopis, who would run immediately leaving their husband, home and everything behind.

Dadashri: This would be verily like this.

Whatever it is this is justice only. It is according to everyone’s prakruti. If someone likes to eat only rice, then he will say, ‘feed only rice to everybody,’ then what will be left for you to eat? You would hardly get rice to eat. All is according to one’s own account. And if you bring someone here then you should tell him too that these people are not concerned about anything, so at the last it will be like this, it will be like that, do not pay attention. It is worth seeing vitaragata the state of absolute detachment near the Gnani. Yes, here it is like this only.

Questioner: But what is the harm in keeping discipline? Why should there not be some discipline?

Dadashri: For that the doer—ego has to be employed.

Questioner: Yes, employ a doer there and that is not possible at all, in this Gnan— Akram Gnan, it is not possible at all.

Dadashri: And that other is the unfolding of what exists within.

Questioner: Dada, my doubt is resolved. But I have this sanskar nature that keeps on goading.

Dadashri: Whatever it is, it is correct.

We also had calculated, I had thought it before that how can such wrong thing happen? Then I had cancelled. We have to just bring about closure. Here you have to see vitaragata, you have to see love.

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Wrong or right is verily a relative view Questioner: In adverse circumstances I shift from chetan bhaav ‘I am the Self’ to paudgalik bhaav ‘I am Chandulal.’ Later I get the awareness that this has happened.

What should I do to prevent this slipping and to maintain the awareness?

Dadashri: It is like this, there are only two things: the pure Soul and circumstances.

There is not any wrong or right in this. If you say wrong circumstance then it will turn wrong and if you say right circumstance then it will turn right. There will always be the sweet and the bitter, but if you say this is bitter then it will feel bitter. It will have effect at that time. Sweet and bitter will be there for sure, will it not? It is the nature of every one.

Questioner: So if anything is seen wrong or right then it is the nature of pudgal the relative self?

Dadashri: Wrong or right is verily the relative view. Nothing is wrong at all. That it is seen as wrong is verily the weakness. The nature of any circumstance sainyog is that it will come to a definite end. If someone says, ‘sir, there is a burning coal here and there is a cube of ice, is there not a difference between the two? Then one will say, ‘there is a difference.’ Both are circumstances only. So there are no wrong or right circumstances, and by nature they are prone to dissipate.

Say for instance if you see a cube of ice lying here, then no one will remove it. And if a burning coal is lying here then if I do not remove then someone else may remove it.

So that circumstance has come to clear its space. So then you have to be patient, don’t you? The Lord has said to practice penance.

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circumstance is not wrong (adverse), it is your weakness in doing penance. One will have to rest on the four fundamental foundation pillars, will one not? If you have a bed with three legs then it will fall down. You need to have a bed with four supports.

That is why it is written that Dada does adeetha tapa (internal penance). Adeetha tapa is the last penance. ‘We’ keep doing the ultimate penance, at the level of the demarcation line between the Self and the nonSelf. ‘We’ will not go towards the non-Self at all. ‘We’ will not go in the foreign—the nonSelf department at all, ‘we’ remain in home— the Self department only. We have to maintain penance at that level; that is called adeetha tapa. You have rise progressively from such current penances by experiencing the ‘heat’ within, and then you will reach the level of the adeetha tapa.

Energy of the Self manifests through penance Questioner: Dada, when we do adeetha tapa, is it not doership?

Dadashri: No, adeetha tapa means it is the penance of the Self only, it is the purusharth inner endeavor of the Purush— the Self. If a doctor says that you are not going to live two days and you know your physical state is such that you will be able to live longer then your mind will be filled with confusing thoughts that now what will happen of me? So, at that time you have to do penance. Mind-intellect-chit and ego, all will become restless, that ‘You’ have to keep ‘seeing’. Is it about ‘I-the Self’ or someone else? Yes, then You will last. If it—the nonSelf complex of body-mind- speech dies-goes, then it will go but ‘You’ have to continue doing penance. In such a situation, ‘Our-the Self’ things manifest. On the contrary aishwarya 15

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energy of the Self, Godly energy manifests.

What kind of aishwarya manifests?

Tremendous aishwarya would manifest by doing penance just once. If your whole house is on fire, if it is your one and only one house that is burning then you have to go there. You too have to take the bucket and help all who are pouring water to stop the fire. You have to perform all the outer actions but inside there will be the penance. What is ‘Yours’ in this at all? You will have the awareness that ‘this is not mine’.

The Self is never drowned in the good or the bad All these circumstances will dissipate.

You do not have to worry about anything there; You just have to keep ‘seeing’. One can bind karma by worrying and one cannot bind karma by ‘seeing’, one can become free. The whole world is in grief and misery. That is because of lack of understanding. These poor people bind karma. They are not aware. And if you do not have bad intent for anybody then you would also feel Ramraj royal Godhood within.

Questioner: Yes. I would feel that way.

That is right.

Dadashri: What a beautiful science this is! What a wonder! One cannot attain anything even if he runs around all over the Himalaya otherwise. One cannot get anything even if he runs away renouncing his wife and children or even if he stays alone. And here live your life with your wife and children and show your self off. You do show your self off, don’t you?

Questioner: We do!

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You may encounter good or bad circumstance.

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Questioner: That is right.

Dadashri: And that pride and pomp is wasted for free. You enjoy reading a book while traveling in train and you enjoy taking a nap too. You are not suffering but what if some bad circumstance arises? What if you have to walk on a thorn filled path? So therefore, suffering is intrinsically connected with every circumstance. So all these circumstances I hereby surrender unto You ‘Dada’ the Lord within. I am separate and circumstance is separate.

So many circumstances have to come together for a human being to get food. So many circumstances have to come together for a man to starve without food. More circumstances are required for the starving.

More circumstances are needed for an adverse event. Fewer circumstances are needed for agreeable event.

When the business is booming and you are gaining reputation, at that time only you have to decide, what will I do if it goes down?

You should never have to come to beg from anyone or become helpless. Our Gnan is so profound and profuse with ‘I am Shuddhatma—pure Soul’ and whatever happens is vyavasthit. Circumstances may be agreeable or disagreeable. Agreeable or disagreeable circumstance can never drown You. What is the nature of this world? When the time comes for crying, one will cry. When the time comes for laughing he will laugh, when the time comes for becoming upset he will get upset, when the time comes to give he will give, when the time comes to take then he will May 2009

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take. That is the nature of the world. Nothing of this sort happens to us.

All the trouble is of this egoism only After attaining this Gnan, the worldly interaction that used to be complicated becomes simple and straightforward. It will actually become easy for you. The troubles that were there before become less. Day by day, as this knowledge—Gnan takes effect, the troubles will start to decrease. All the work will be simplified. Who has made this worldly life complicated? The ego has made it complicated. Otherwise, the worldly life was in a straight line but the ego has made the lines go zigzag. All this is the interference of the ego only.

The circumstances are under your control; you are interfering by exercising the ego and thus creating the interference dakhal.

This entire baggage that is of the ego has to be pulled of its roots and tossed out, otherwise it will not take time to grow all over again. There is no telling in what circumstance and when it may arise. So what is to be done about it? Ignorance is gone now. Now you have to keep on the attempts to dig out the ego. The necessary ego is the discharging ego, which indeed is dramatic, but deep down inside is the other ego which is getting entangled silently and one is not aware of it. That mad egoism is everywhere and it keeps one wandering in mental intoxication masti. It needs to be identified and sorted out.

If anyone who after coming close to the Gnani Purush demonstrates mad egoism then he would be ruining himself for sure, would he not? Or else do not come near here, stay away. The one who speaks staying away does not incur too much loss, but the one who speaks negative in this satsang then it is called a mad ego. That mad ego would ruin him yet May 2009

‘we’ would keep protecting him. ‘We’ have the same flow; ‘we’ would have only compassion for him!

The one who comes to know ‘I’ becomes God Questioner: Isn’t the ego itself an obstinacy? Isn’t the ego itself a form of obstinacy?

Dadashri: Ego is, if ego is known, that will make you God. Ego is such that it can make you a God. And that ego does everything. The creation has happened from it. Ego is not wrong. If these Gnanis’ ego goes the right way, it will establish them at the ultimate stage and take them all the way to the status of a God. As the ego gradually becomes pure and pure, he arrives from the impure to the inauspicious, from inauspicious to auspicious, from auspicious to pure; yet the ego remains the ego.

Questioner: Your sentence had come forth that if one recognizes the ego then it is likely to make one a God. So do we have to recognize the ego?

Dadashri: If one recognizes ego then it is more than enough. No one can recognize ego!

Questioner: I did not understand that.

To recognize ego, what does it mean?

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atmavirya, weakness will arise, and angerpride-deceit-greed will arise. Atmavirya the energy of the Self dissipates due to ego.

Atmavirya rises as the ego dissolves. When you feel that atmavirya is decreasing then you should speak loudly five to twenty-five times, ‘I am full of infinite energy.’ Then energy will arise. There are infinite obstructions in the path of moksha therefore against this there is infinite energy.

This sansar worldly life originated due to wrong energy now we have so much right energy which can destroy all the obstacles.

That is the only reason that ‘we’ make you speak that sentence ‘In the path of moksha because there are obstructions of countless varieties, against them I am full of infinite energy.’

All the obstacles can be broken by staying in the state of gnata-drashta—knower-seer.

Otherwise moksha is right here, it is lying verily with you. Is moksha that far? It is just that obstructions have happened in the middle.

Foolish, mad ego There is mad ego in everybody. That mad ego shows that right is wrong. If you have six or seven files at home the mad ego will show wrong about all seven of them. What Vitarag science says is that you are to win over the prakruti (the innate nature of one’s relative self) of all seven of them. What does winning over mean? It means that they all become very happy with you. You win over them in a way that they do not feel any hurt.

You do not have to win over the world outside, win over the seven files that you have at home.

The world has already been conquered. You won’t achieve anything by leaving behind your files and running away to become an ascetic.

That file will have to be won. That file has come for you only.

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It will keep on doing all the wrong things. It will see file’s faults and will see the self as clean that ‘I am very wise’ and will protect own faults. It will tell the self that, ‘No, you are not at fault.’ Thus, it will protect its own self. It is the lawyer itself, it is the judge itself and it is also the plaintiff itself, now tell me, what will be the condition? What will be the judgment if you are the plaintiff, the lawyer and the judge? And here he will see the other as the guilty person and protect own self!

That which alerts the state of knower-seer Questioner: Where there is a state of gnata-drashta—knower-seer, then where is the question of being forewarned and alert?

Dadashri: But when the state of ‘knowing’ and the state of ‘seeing’ is not there then it will make ‘You-the awakened Self’ alert, will it not? It will tell you, ‘hey, it should not be like this.’

Questioner: Yes. Then what is that stage? The stage where one has to become alert and vigilant, what that stage is called?

Dadashri: It is dependent on the force of unfolding of karma so it will move and separate. At that time it (Pragnya – direct energy of the Self) will say ‘beware’, will it not? Then it will bring You back there again (in the state of awakened Self). But there is the one (chetavanar) who alerts You, ‘beware.’ If it does not alert ‘You’ then the task of remaining the Self will not be done properly.

Questioner: That is right. But this is not called the original stage of the Self, is it?

Dadashri: Where is the question of the original stage, you become weak if there is no chetavanar—the one who alerts and forewarns you. Nothing remains to be done when the original stage arrives, is attained.

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‘You’ are able to remain in the state of knower-seer as much as possible. ‘You’ are not able to remain in this state because of other obstacles. But ‘You’ are able to come back there even after becoming alert. Other obstructions do exist, don’t they! Otherwise there are no obstructions after remaining in the knower-seer state. Nothing is left for You to do, is there? The one who has obstructions has to remain alert and heed inner warning.

Questioner: This stage of forewarningalerting the awakened one continues for a long time. Original vastu—thing—the Self is different, and despite this the process of the forewarning continues.

Dadashri: It continues. It will continue.

In that You have to apply more force. That which was going in the wrong—non-Self direction has to be corrected to the right— direction of the Self!

Questioner: Now the awakened Self wants to become absorbed and merged in his own Self, but all doors to That shut down.

The further Gnan of the Self which remains to be known—experienced, it totally closes down and one is not able to progress to the next stage.

Dadashri: It is like this; it is verily purnahuti completion because it is not possible for any other pratiti conviction to set in. There is no need of doing completion of anything else; you have to bring about completion of pratiti conviction. You do not have to bring about completion of this achaar conduct. And pratiti of other thing will not set in. So let him toss around and keep trying inside, You have to keep on observing that too. Do not let intellect enter; intellect does not let one take rest.

Questioner: Intellect harasses a lot.

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Dadashri: Yes, intellect can close the door of pratiti conviction. It can make one close the door of pratiti. However now it is not possible to set other pratiti conviction at all. What else do you need anymore?

Worship of the Self is the thing to be experienced continuously. The experience of the Self remains continuously. That which alerts and forewarns You within is verily Atma. Does it alert You? Questioner: Yes. Dadashri: In the prior ignorant agnan state one was not alerting and forewarning you.

Now it-pragnya alerts You inside, ‘hey, this way, not that way.’ It does alert You, does it not?

Questioner: In that there is the lingering greed to see ‘It-the Self,’ directly in front pratyaksha.

Dadashri: Do you? It is not a thing that you can see through eyes. Aksha means through eyes. It is not a thing, which you can see through eyes. You will be able to experience ‘It’. When I put this sugar crystal in your mouth, you will say, ‘now I understood.’

That’s all; finally you have to attain this understanding.

Pratiti conviction sets in, that is called ‘joyo—seen’. Not through these eyes but pratiti will set in. Then laksha awareness will set in, that is called ‘janyo—known’. And then vitaragata—total detachment remains, that is called anubhav experience. So from day one only pratiti sets in, at that time you have already seen Atma—the Self.

How and when does vitaragata manifest?

Questioner: When does complete vitaragata manifest within mahatmas (those who have attained Gnan of the Self )?

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Dadashri: If you start writing from number one to hundred then does the number one hundred come immediately?

Questioner: No, it does not come immediately.

Dadashri: So after writing twenty, you have to see whether you are able to write twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twentyfour or not. So it will finish. That verily is involved in completion and ‘doing’ the completion. You do not need to finish. That speed verily will bring the completion.

First ‘see’ how the raag-dwesh— attachment-abhorrence can be decreased.

Now that the drashti vision has been turned from wrong to right—the non-Self to the Self, it—drashti vision turns towards increasing vitaragata and becoming purna absolute. In the past the vision was towards decreasing raag-dwesh—attachment-abhorrence. The whole world is working hard to decrease raag-dwesh. It is trying to stay afloat in the ocean of upadhi externally induced problems and resultant suffering, worries, tremendous trividha taap threefold mental, physical and externally induced suffering!

How much vitaragata we—the awakened ones on the path of Akram Vignan— have, a little vitaragata, one degree but we have vitaragata. We can say that raag-dwesh is completely dissipated. Even one degree of vitaragata will dissipate the juice of raagdwesh completely. One can see raag-dwesh, but interest would not be there within. Look at that vitaragata!

will make you sit in front of a Tirthankara Lord.

After the change of the swabhav innate nature, whom will ‘it’ let you stay here with?

Where will ‘it’ find parents for You? If one is born as a Tirthankara then he will be born in the royal family, King’s palace. But will the friends be just from surrounding neighborhood like Patels and Baniyas? No. Celestial beings would have landed over there before His birth. Celestial beings in the human form will come and play with Him. Otherwise wrong sanskar culture would develop. So everything is attained according to circumstances. If You are ready then all the circumstances are ready.

If you crooked then everything will be crooked. If You became straightforward then Dusham Kaal-Kaliyug—this current time cycle characterized by lack of unity in thoughts, speech and action—is not obstructing You. You have met the Gnani Purush and received this wonderful Gnan. Let there be seven such Dusham Kaal, what problem is it of Yours? You would be in your Gnan—Self-awareness. You do not have artadhyan-raudradhyan. The intent to hurt anyone will never arise any more.

So the result of dharmadhyan absence of adverse internal meditation, is that one more life will come. Having received this Gnan some may get two lives, some may get one life and for some it may take longer however there is a freedom for sure. This is because karma have ceased binding, new cause for karma is not being created.

This Gnan will remain present forever

Questioner: If one were to become free after some lives then will the same condition-state continue in future life times?

That artadhyan (adverse internal meditation that hurts the self) and raudradhyan (adverse internal meditation that hurts the self and others) that has ceased, that very result

Dadashri: If one has reached ninetynine then it will continue from ninety-nine. This person has up to eighty-one then it will start from eighty-one.

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Questioner: So karma will not be bound in the next life, that state will continue only.

Dadashri: All states will continue only.

The Gnan which you have brought, at the time of last state, at the time of death will remain present and then it will be present in the next life there.

Questioner: Now in the next life, will one remember this Gnan at that time?

Dadashri: One will meet a nimit evidentiary instrument. It cannot happen without a nimit. One may meet a nimit but not that of Gnan. One may get a wrong nimit. If one gets a wrong nimit then Gnan will arise and become present. If you get a nimit who would do wrong to you, or harass you then you would think, during thought process that light of Gnan will prevail. Or if you went to listen to some religious saint, and if you hear him talking then you would think that it is not like this, it is like this. The Gnan will be present and light will happen. So Gnan will be present when you meet a nimit.

Questioner: Those one or two more lives left, during that time this jagruti awakened awareness and this guidance….

Dadashri: That all will remain with you.

This jagruti, this Gnan everything will be present the moment you leave from here. It will indeed happen at a younger age, and people around will be astonished. That is the reason that Krupadudev Shrimad Rajchandra was able to write all this in his very young age.

If the Gnan did not present then he could not write all this in his youth.

Questioner: In this life we have received Akram—step-less path to Self-realization and in coming lives will we have to go in the Kramic—step-by-step path or will it remain Akram only?

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Dadashri: Afterwards nothing is left, is there? Once you attain the Self, it is done, finish! Thereafter whatever comes, everything is nikaali discharge. You may get Akram or Kram, we do not have concern with that. This Gnan of ours will remain present and ready all the way until one to two more life times.

Questioner: Dada, we got your Gnan and Agna too in this life, so now will someone give us Agna or will we take with it with us only; what will happen?

Dadashri: This Agna is for this life only.

Thereafter this Agna will have been woven in Your life; You will not have to follow. You will have to follow just in this life. If you will follow properly then in the next life it will have been woven for you. That life will be with Agna only.

Questioner: So will the files of this life come with us in the next life?

Dadashri: If you create further clash with the files, then they will come with you, and if not, then they will not come.

Niyanu of moksha only (Niyanu: Firm inner resolution; a phenomenon where one’s bhaav to attain something is so strong that all his punyai – merit karma, are expended towards attaining only that) Questioner: All the mahatmas say that we will be going to Mahavideha Kshetra, will they?

Dadashri: Some may have to come here and then go there, after spending one more life. One will have to settle up with others all karmic accounts that lie pending within, will he not? But they will go there. Will one not have to settle up all accounts? Prior to attaining this Gnan, if you have bound a bad karma for which a penalty has been assessed, you have 21

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no choice but face that penalty, do you? But you are free after paying off the penalty of one more life.

anything that is not duly theirs from anybody.

These mahatmas have laid down all the weapons of anger-pride-deceit-greed.

Questioner: So does anyone regress after taking Gnan? After attaining this Gnan can one ever regress forever?

For the losses sustained in infinite lives what does one have to do to pay them off in one life? One has to pursue Dada. If Dada is not there then one should pursue the words spoken by Dada. Persevering in the pursuit of these, one has to pay off the loss of infinite lives within one life. Loss of how many lives?

We have taken infinite births until now, all those losses are there, no? We have to pay off that loss, don’t we?

Dadashri: Yes, one can! If the Gnan does not become fruitful then there is no meaning at all. Then he has gone on the wrong path, wrong path only. And what if he speaks ill about everyone?

Questioner: Wrong way means what?

Dadashri: If the talk turns about you, and he starts cursing profusely, is an example.

Are there such people in this world?

Questioner: So would he do viradhana scorn and disrespect Gnan?

Dadashri: He will do viradhana of Gnan, Gnani and the followers of the Gnani and everybody too. He will do viradhana of books and everything else ‘I will throw away this book if I get my hand on it,’ he will say this. Then he will do the viradhana of books.

He will behave thus. ‘Hey, get out. If you will bring these books then I will throw them away in the ocean, or I will burn them.’ He will be disrespectful of pictures and burn them.

Questioner: Is this a talk about the one who has taken Gnan?

Dadashri: Yes, everything can change.

Questioner: One cannot do viradhana of even Gnani’s mahatma?

Dadashri: Gnani’s mahatmas are called Gnani only, are they not? These mahatmas means, what are you talking? These mahatmas have laid down their weapons. They do not have bhaav inner intent of hurting anyone. They do not have a desire to deceive or rob anybody. They do not have desire to take 22

Now You have to dedicate and devote exclusively and unflinchingly to this one only, not anything else. If not, you have to make a niyanu—absolute decision to attain something is so strong that all his punyai – merit karma, are expended towards attaining only that—of moksha so you will not have to go through too many births. You can even end up having less then two to three more life times.

You have set a date for travel to Mumbai, now that remains in your laksha awareness, similarly it should be in your awareness that you want to attain moksha. What is the use if it does not remain in your mind where you want to go? It will stay in your awareness, will it not? Can you forget?

Questioner: I cannot forget.

Dadashri: Similarly this should remain in your awareness. Now we have started going in that direction. It may come early or late, but we started going in that direction, it is yours as much your force is. If you meet Me directly then You will fly like a plane and if not, if you have sookshma subtle Dada then also you will ride like in a train. So as much you can fly by plane it is right. Yet you will get a lot of settlement. Only one life should remain pending and that too to suffer the effects of punyai May 2009

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merit karma. In abiding by Dadashri’s five Agnas, you will accumulate tremendous punyai merit karma.

Protection of the prakruti is potapanu Do you have ‘I-ness’ or not?

Questioner: It does arise sometimes.

Dadashri: Otherwise what remains?

There is constant and continuous jagruti awareness in the one who does not have ‘Iness’ potapanu. Whatever ajagruti unawareness there is; is all verily ‘I-ness’ potapanu. The ‘I-ness’ will arise immediately when someone tells you that you have no sense, does it not?

Questioner: It does sometimes.

Did you understand the meaning of Iness; the potapanu? One still continues to protect the non-Self, and that protection is attained through artfulness and deceit (kada and kapat).

Questioner: To protect one’s prakruti is considered ‘I-ness’, so when does that turn into deceit?

Dadashri: All the ‘I-ness’ goes into protecting the prakruti the non-Self. The ‘Iness’ without kapat (deceitfulness) is better; it is softer, but the other is bad.

Questioner: You have said that protection of prakruti is ‘I-ness’ and to protect through artfulness and deceit is double the ‘Iness’.

Dadashri: Does it happen everyday or only sometimes? Tell me when it does not happen. All this is ‘I-ness’ only. That, which one protects, is potapanu ‘I-ness’. To protect this prakruti, the non-Self, is all ‘I-ness’. The loss of ownership of the prakruti (the belief of ‘I am Chandulal’) has been established through conviction (pratiti, shraddha – the belief of ‘I am the pure Soul’), but still the potapanu ‘I-ness’ does not leave, does it?

Dadashri: Yes, that is double the ‘Iness’. Even children protect themselves, but there is no deceit in it.

Questioner: ‘I-ness’ is bound to be there as long as ‘I am correct’ remains, is it not?

Straight and yet there are subtle obstinacies

Dadashri: There is no such thing as right or wrong. There is no problem with the ‘I-ness’ of that kind. There are many other types of ‘I-ness’. One gets upset at the slightest comment. That is protection of the prakruti.

Not only does one protect the prakruti but he turns things around by employing deceit kapat. In that situation, the ‘I-ness’ is doubled.

To vehemently protect one’s self, is all potapanu. Not only do they protect themselves, but they do it artfully and then dodge away. The artful dodging is deceit.

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Questioner: When a person knows that he has protected his prakruti artfully and deceitfully, what is that?

Dadashri: He will recognize it if the deceit kapat is thin but he will not if it is heavy and dense.

Questioner: In the Aptasutra (Dadashri’s major volume of 4237 Gnan aphorisms) it says, “Before attaining Gnan, ‘we’ had crossed the entire ocean of obstinacy.

Meaning, this Gnan only manifested after every obstinacy was broken.”

Dadashri: Yes, there was a lot of obstinacy aadayee. People could not see it but ‘we’ could tell there was aadayee obstinacy within. On the contrary, people saw me as being sarad straight. There were small obstinacies, subtle obstinacies, and egotistic 23

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ones. They were not of the body; not the kind of becoming upset and non-communicative (risavu). They were obstinacies of the ego. I could tell that the inner adjustment has taken a wrong turn with reference to an interaction with a certain person even though that person would not be aware of it.

Questioner: Does that count as obstinacy aadayee?

Dadashri: Then what else? If the other person is right and we do not accept it within, is that not madness of the ego?

Questioner: So is obstinacy not a distortion of the ego?

Dadashri: It is definitely the ego. The intellect buddhi has nothing to do with it.

Questioner: But is it not a distorted ego?

Dadashri: Distorted indeed. What kind of a distortion? People will say behind your back, ‘Just leave him alone, he is a little ‘crack (mad)’ Don’t even mention his name.’ Hey you! How can there be a crack in the head if the engine is still running?

Vision deluded because of spectacles of dravyakarma Questioner: There is a definition given in the Vachanamrut of Shrimad Rajchandra that the result of bhaavkarma cause karma is dravyakarma effect karma.

Dadashri: That is correct. But people understand that ‘result’ in their own language.

This result means it is the glasses—spectacles of the current life. And people understand result as dravya matter, that which is experienced through the five senses. That is also a language, it is not wrong in a way, but dravyakarma is not like that. If one understands the meaning of dravyakarma then he can accomplish a lot.

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Questioner: What are you trying to say about dravyakarma?

Dadashri: Now what is the dravyakarma, it creates a blindfold and makes you see all this. So drashti vision changes, all that is because of dravyakarma. This physical body originated due to change in drashti vision. This physical body, which has formed, is entirely due to dravyakarma.

Questioner: Before Gnan the drashti vision through which we see the world, is that drashti the chashma glasses (blind folds, veils) of dravyakarma?

Dadashri: On the basis of dravyakarma that drashti vision exists. And we have walked on wrong path because of that drashti vision. But the basis of that drashti is dravyakarma. That drashti is not called dravyakarma. This glasses (blind folds— colored glasses which prevent ‘seeing’ it as it is) that you are saying, that is verily called the dravyakarma. That is correct.

Nokarma means discharge karma and bhaavkarma means charge karma.

Dravyakarma do not dissipate in between.

We are just removing the wrong drashti vision in the Gnan Vidhi. So that (mooda – original) vision refrains from going on that side, in dravyakarma. That wrong ‘drashti – vision’ verily disappears.

By the disappearance of this dravyakarma, did your drashti vision change or not?

Questioner: Yes, it changed.

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real, and this whole world is being governed on the basis of this wrong drashti vision, and on that very basis bhaavkarma (‘I am Chandulal, I am the doer’) charge karma happens. Otherwise without dravyakarma, bhaavkarma cannot occur at all. That drashti deluded vision is there because of dravyakarma. It will show opposite of whatever it is. One sees the viparit the wrong, so he will follow the wrong way.

Questioner: When You give us Gnan at that time You change our drashti vision and due to that our karma stops charging, is that so?

Obstacles occur less in proportion over there. But here in Akram Vignan one can create grave obstacles. One can create such a grave obstacle that he may have to wander around many chorashi (one chorashi – 84 lakhs births).

The Gnani Purush is a mokshadata— the one who grants final liberation, He has come to give the gift of moksha. Not Gnan but the gift of moksha, so would any obstacle remain if the one who is the giver of the Gnan and the one who wants to take the Gnan come together? Would any kind of obstacle remain?

Dadashri: Because of the disappearance of that mooda drashti main wrong vision, bhaavkarma cause karma stops.

If the antraya karma is broken, it does not take long at all. How far apart is Atma— the Self and moksha? Not at all; the obstacles that lie in between the two is the distance between them.

Only the Atmagnani and His sheltered ones-mahatmas can understand dravyakarma. Dravyakarma means it has already come into fruition, it is in effect.

Questioner: How can one destroy gnan antraya and darshan antraya?

Obstacles of Gnan-Darshan arise thus Questioner: What causes gnan antraya and darshan antraya (obstacles towards real knowledge and real vision respectively)?

Dadashri: One will talk negative in every matter. The knowledge which these saints and priests give in their sermon, one does not understand anything and start talking negative, that is the cause of laying darshan antraya and gnan antraya. One should not speak like that. He may be any kind of acharya or maharaj—religious head, he speaks according to his knowledge and understanding but one cannot speak wrong or negative about him.

That verily causes darshan antraya obstacles on one’s own real vision and gnan antraya obstacles on one’s own real knowledge-Gnan.

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Dadashri: Gnani Purush can destroy them for you. The Gnani Purush destroys ignorance of the Self and he can also remove obstacles for you. But there are certain obstacles that even the Gnani Purush cannot remove. Those obstacles are beyond the power of the Gnani. Wherever humility vinaya is being violated. Humility is the basis for the path to moksha. Param vinaya absolute humility!

There should not be even a single negative thought, a single wrong imagination about the Gnani Purush. What can a single wrong imagination do? One does not get a single wrong thought and imagination for his own mother, then what about for the Gnani Purush?

Rather than this it is better to remain less in touch with the Gnani Purush. If one does not remain close to the Gnani Purush then he will not have any thought at all.

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work. If there is the slightest deficiency in absolute humility param vinaya then moksha is gone. Param vinaya means absolute internal humility. Therefore tremendous humility is needed.

To worship means to ascend. You can rise higher if you keep the connection with the One who has scaled the peak and if you talk negative about Him then you would fall.

Subservience to the Gnani Purush Do not let go of this satsang no matter what others tell you. You will receive the Lord’s grace - krupa - when you come here, and everything will fall into place. It will not take long at all. Problems and difficulties are inevitable on the way, which is why we say, ‘In the face of all kinds of obstacles on the path to moksha, I am the one with infinite energy.’ At the same time the non-Self complex, as an opponent with its infinite energy is there too, which prevents Your moksha.

That is why the Lord has said, ‘Proceed with subservience (aadhinta) to the Gnani Purush; follow his instructions.’ Even if he says something that does not quite sit with you or sounds crazy, follow his instructions all the way.

This is because He is vitarag. If you cannot understand through your intellect, then just make the decision that since you have understood and accepted nine of the Gnani’s ten equations, it is immaterial if you do not understand the tenth one. Do not find Him at fault. Just accept the fact that it is your own mistake that you do not understand Him. Why is it that you cannot understand His one point when you can understand the rest? So do not

find Him at fault here. He has destroyed all His mistakes. The intellect is bound to show you fault even in the Gnani Purush.

We can make do if it were a question of death of just one lifetime, but when you do viradhana - irreverence and negative talk about the Gnani Purush - you will incur deaths of a hundred thousand lifetimes. Whose viradhana are you doing? Of a Vitarag? You may curse this ‘Ambalal Muljibhai’ a hundred times over. Go ahead and do so if you don’t agree with him! But generally people make this grave error without even understanding anything. That is why ‘we’ had to keep this Gnan a secret, and had continued to keep it a secret for many years.

I have said that I am taking you to a very high place. If you fall from there, you will not find even a fragment of your bones. So either do not come up with Me or if you want to come with Me, then tread very gently.

Moksha is simple and straightforward; this Vignan is such that it guarantees final liberation in one more lifetime. But do not come up with Me if you want to misbehave. I have already told everyone this. This road goes up very high and there will not be a bone left to be found if you fall from there. All the same, some who have come up with Me, often worry and tell me, ‘He is likely to instigate again; he will do this’. However, I have built such a protection for him that he will not fall. Just as the authorities have installed guard barriers, I too have a protection barrier. I have not allowed anyone to fall yet. ~Jai Sat Chit Anand

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EDISON, NEW JERSEY - 4th - 7th June 2009 4-Jun

Thu

6:30 to 9 PM

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732-968-6836

5-Jun

Fri

9:30 to 12:30 PM

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3050, Woodbridge Ave.

732-322-2639

Edision, NJ 08837

5-Jun

Fri

6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

6-Jun

Sat

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6-Jun

Sat

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6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

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410-561-1583

9-Jun

6 to 8:30 PM

Gnanvidhi

4320 Ammendale Road,

732-766-7265

Beltsville, MD 20705

301-351-0510

Tue

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Fri

6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

Hindu Society of North Carolina

919-260-7727

5:30 to 8:30 PM

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309, Aviation Parkways,

919-461-8317

Morrisville, NC 27560 ATLANTA, GEORGIA - 13th - 15th June 2009 13-Jun Sat

6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

14-Jun Sun

10 AM to 12:30 PM

Satsang

14-Jun Sun

5:30 to 8:30 PM

Gnanvidhi

15-Jun Mon

6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

17-Jun Wed

7 to 9:30 PM

Satsang

LandMark Middle School

904-262-1795

18-Jun Thu

7 to 9:30 PM

Satsang

101 Kernan Blvd,

904-642-8822

6 to 9 PM

Gnanvidhi

19-Jun

Fri

229-425-5453 Gujarati Samaj

678-778-0109

5331 Royal Wood Park Way,

678-595-9631

Trucker, GA 30084 JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA - 17th to 19th June 2009

Jacksonville, FL 32277 TORONTO, CANADA - 20th June to 22nd June 2009

20-Jun Sat

6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

21-Jun Sun

10 AM to 12 PM

Satsang

Sanatan Mandir

21-Jun Sun

4:30 to 7 PM

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9333 woodbine Ave,

22-Jun Mon

6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

23-Jun Tue

6:30 to 9 PM

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6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

25-Jun Thu

6 to 9 PM

Gnanvidhi

26-Jun

Fri

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416-675-3543 416-731-5236 416-299-9794

Hindu Temple of Wisconsin

414-571-9019

N4063 W243 Pewaukee Road,

414-431-4950

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404-538-5000

Meadows Club, 2950 W. Golf Road,

Rolling Meadows, IL 60008 HOUSTON, TEXAS - 26th June to 28th June 2009

414-763-1968 815- 284-3881 847-980-5759

6:30 to 9 PM

Satsang

27-Jun Sat

10 AM to 12:30 PM

Satsang

Shree Vallabh Priti Seva Samaj Hall

27-Jun Sat

4:30 to 7 PM

Gnanvidhi

11715 Bellfort Village Dr,

832-646-4696

28-Jun Sun

10 AM to 12:30 PM

Satsang

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832-405-5172

30-Jun Tue

832-746-6725 832-771-8204

10 AM to 9:30 PM

Satsang

Temescal Gateway Park,

323-493-3030

10 AM to 12:30 PM

Satsang

15601 Sunset Boulevard

909-510 1258

Wed

7 PM to 9:30 PM

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Pacific Palisades, CA 90272

714-337-9000

Thu

10 AM to 12:30 PM

Satsang

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Fri

9 AM to 11:30 AM

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Fri

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Satsang

4-Jul

Sat

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Satsang

Ontario Convention Center,

909-510 1258

4-Jul

Sat

4:30 to 7:30 PM

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2000 E.Convention Center Way,

714-337-9000

5-Jul

Sun

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714-408-5001

5-Jul

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6-Jul

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7-Jul

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