JOURNAL
INTERNATIONAL SCOUTING COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION
Vol. 19, No. 4 December 2019
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ON THE INSIDE
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COLUMNISTS
ISCA News
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Buckle Up For Philmont
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Neckerchief Slides - Artcraft Slides
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On The Road To Scouting Museums
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Collecting Camp Patches
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Baden-Powell Memorabilia: Part 3-Unclassified
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OA News
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RWS Types & Classic Council Memorabilia
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CSP Corner
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Statement of Ownership, Management, and Circulation
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COLLECTING CAMP PATCHES: BOB SHERMAN 4 Timberland Way, Beacon Falls, CT 06403 (203) 556-4097, footdoc7777@gmail.com THE CSP CORNER: STEVE AUSTIN 8237 Tuna Path, Liverpool, NY 13090 (315) 456-1511, saustincsp@gmail.com HAPPY TRAILS: LARRY FAULKNER 480 Fieldstone Drive, Helena, AL 35080 (205) 540-0954, campmoreland@gmail.com
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Collecting Camp Patches
Camp Seven Mountains By Bob Sherman ISCA 0091
The featured camp in this column is CAMP SEVEN MOUNfootdoc7777@gmail.com TAINS from Juniata Valley Council in PA. The primary source of this information comes from Dr. Hal Yocum (more about Hal later). There are many local legends about the origin of the name. http://www. sevenmountainsscoutcamp.org/index. php/history describes many of them. Apparently there is no consensus among local historians, so suffice it to say that there are at least 7 mountains in the area. Which seven make up the camp, located in Spring Mills, PA will not be determined here.
1933-36. Their patch was a green felt CA worn on a red shirt. The green felt stars were for additional years attending the camp. In approximately 1950, there was a reunion dinner held at Camp 7 Mountains where they issued the round blue and white twill patch with the old name of the camp for former staff and campers. The former campers received the same patch but without the word “staff”. The camp became CAMP SEVEN MOUNTAINS in 1937 when their patch
More important is the history of the Camp. Juniata Valley Council’s camp was originally called CAMP AQUANUSCHIONI from
was the dark blue on yellow felt which was used from 1937 to the early 1940’s, when they used a round felt with a button tab and a flocked design of a chief profile and bonnet. This basic design continued for many years. In the 1950’s they went to twill patches until the present time. Hal has a complete set of these patches. The patches shown here are from Hal’s collection. My friendship with Hal Yocum goes back many moons. In the early 1960’s, we did some trading by mail (this was long before email and texting). In the mid to late 1960’s, we were both in grad school in Philadelphia – Hal went to Jefferson Medical School and I the Pennsylvania College of Podiatric Medicine. I lived just a few blocks from Hal and he kindly invited me to his apartment to visit and talk Scouting and also to a party or two at his school. Hal went on to have a distinguished career in orthopedic surgery and now resides in Oklahoma. As he “matured”, he began to look more and more like BadenISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2019
Powell and he now frequently does BP presentations. Here is a photo of Hal at the last Jamboree.
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My good friend Dick Cordes is a tireless researcher on BSA camps. We were discussing the Scout camps of Rhode Island and the relationship between the RHODE ISLAND BOY SCOUTS (RIBS) and NARRAGANSETT COUNCIL, BSA. Dick wrote that Scouting in Rhode Island began as the Rhode Island Boy Scouts (RIBS) which organized as a voluntary association in September, 1910. From 1910-17, the RIBS established groups (troops) throughout RI except in Newport, Blackstone Valley and Woonsocket. In these four towns, troops were organized by the National Council, BSA. In 1917, the RIBS merged with the National movement, forming the Greater Providence Council, BSA. The BSA recognized 1910 as the date of the Council’s organization and granted all members “back service” to that date. The National Council, BSA also agreed that the RIBS could maintain its corporate identity so that it could continue to receive bequests, hold funds and properties, thereby forming the RIBS as a Trustee Organization. In 1916, a 150 acre property on Yawgoog Pond was leased to the RIBS and was then purchased in 1917. According to
local tradition, Yawgoog and Wincheck were names of two Narragansett Native American Chiefs. Additional land was purchased in 1953 when the RIBS purchased a controlling interest in the Yawgo Line and Twine Company. The Reservation continues to be separately owned by RIBS although the camp is run by the Narragansett Council of the BSA. Narragansett Council currently operates nine camps or reservations – AQUAPAUG, BUCK HILL, BUXTON, CACHALOT, CHAMPLIN, CUB WORLD, NORSE, SANDSLAND AND YAWGOOG. I still need a patch from Camp Norse (from Narragansett Council) and from Sandsland (located on Block Island). Here are patches from the other camps. I would also like to show an unusual item from Yawgoog – a 1948 Wincheck Medicine Pouch (right). It is an envelope with a piece of charred wood and feathers inside. I am not certain if they used this in place of having a Camp Nurse that season. By the way, Dick Cordes informed me that Aquapaug was sold on 7/31/2019 to the South Kingston Land Trust.
Selling camp properties is a very sensitive subject to me and to many Scouters. This is happening more and more as Councils merge and the new Council deems certain beloved properties to be expendable, and an easy way to balance their budgets. I understand there may be some Camps that are too costly to maintain because of years of neglect or not enough Scouts available to run a good Summer program. However, whenever a camp is sold, a piece of the soul of many Scouts goes with it.
sales go through. CAMP AGAWAM, MUSCOOTAH, NORTHWOODS SCOUT RESERVATION and TAPICOhave been sold since 2014. SILVER TRAILS S.R. is in the process of being sold and PAUL BUNYAN and LOST LAKE are for sale.
Michigan Crossroads Council has netted more than $5 million dollars by selling camps covering more than 2000 acres. That figure could more than double if planned
Narragansett Council Camps
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Dick Cordes discovered, in his research, a camp name not listed in The Camp Book 2 (TCB-2). CAMP CRYSTAL (1918-23) was owned by Buffalo Council. It turns out that Camp Crystal was the original name of CAMP SCOUTHAVEN. The 400 acre camp was purchased in 1918 and in
mid 1990’s, Scouthaven became GNFC’s primary Cub Camp. John Hoffman came up with another camp name not listed in TCB-2 - CAMP MCDONALD, run by the Charlotte Council. He has a Scoutmaster Training booklet from the 1919 season. Very cool.
Greg Anthony, who runs the great Camp Carpenter Tradeoree every October, sent scans of a black “F” on white felt patch
MP-19-4-1 and two felt armbands that need an ID. I have two AWC felts that also need an ID
MP-19-4-2 and finally, a red felt QUANANACK patch from Scott Shackleton which is also having an identity crisis. Thank you to anyone who can help.
the early years, Scouts got to it by riding a “milk” train which went by the camp. The property was a turn-of-the-century amusement park that was converted to a Scout camp. The dining hall was the former dance hall and the Camp Ranger’s office was the railroad depot that was used at the park to drop off and pick up passengers. SCOUTHAVEN was owned by Buffalo Council until 1949 when it merged with Erie County Council to become Buffalo Area Council (BAC). In 1967, BAC merged with Niagara Frontier Council to form Greater Niagara Frontier Council
MP-19-4-3 (Top) - MP-19-4-4 (Bottom)
(GNFC), which used Scouthaven as a Summer Camp until the late 1980’s, when it closed in 1988. However, in the ISCA JOURNAL - DECEMBER 2019
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ISCA CODE OF ETHICS All members of the International Scouting Collectors Association (ISCA) subscribe to a Code of Ethics to insure fair trading practices amongst its members. All members sign a statement subscribing to this Code.
I will: S et an example in which we all can take pride. C onsciously, fairly represent items of Scout memorabilia. A lways follow the rules of the event that apply to trading. E xtend the hand of friendship to all collectors. or sell no patch that I know to be a fake or reproduction T rade without disclosing the fact.
H elp new collectors get started. I mpress on new collectors the importance of ethics in trading. C urrently be eligible to be registered in Scouting. for fairness in all actions consistent with the Scout S trive Oath & Law. 36
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