‘ We Are beYoND oUr boDY AND MIND. We Are eVeN beYoND oUr DreAMS.’ By Bobby Clennell and Richard Jonas Interviews with Prashant S. Iyengar were conducted in February 2010 at R.I.M.Y.I. by Senior Teacher Bobby Clennell and Certified Teacher Richard Jonas, using questions suggested by Kofi Busia. A more complete version of this interview will appear in Busia’s upcoming book.
Question: You live with one of the most famous yogis who has ever lived. What is your first memory?
Western music is all skill. One must have a good voice or good skill, then
Answer: Never ask the background of a common man. I am not an epoch-making person
they sing the composition. There is
who you should ask: How did you become great? That is not a pertinent question to
hardly any room for creativity. Indian
ask me. Whereas a great man can take credit for his subnormal background, an
music is 99 percent creativity and
ordinary man cannot. If I say, I was stupid in my childhood, I was undeveloped
only one percent composition.
intellectually, you will say, No wonder. Whereas when Guruji says that he came from humble beginnings, weak health, that he was undeveloped intellectually, that gives
As a student of music, I could feel
him greater credit for having overcome. If I say I was that, they will say about me,
what they were trying to sing … It
You are still this. [Prashant laughs.] He was a great Father, I am an ordinary son. These
was wonderful for me to understand
questions are personal, as if I am a great man, and I should reveal how I’m superhuman…
their emotional personality, their life history etc. I heard the maestros of
[Prashant’s first memory was] nothing significant. We were like any average man’s
the 60s and 70s, among them Pandit
family. Guruji was not great then. People thought he was a madcap [because at the
Kumar Gandharva, Bhimsen Joshi,
time, teaching yoga was an unusual occupation].
Ameer Khan, Badegulam Ali Khan, Jitendra Abhishakhi, Ravi Shankar pre-1965, Vilayat Khan pre-1980,
He was a great Father,
Bismillah Khan, Ramnarain.
I am an ordinary son.
Q: Yehudi Menuhin gave your father his first major exposure in the west. What is your clearest memory of him?
Q: You were a highly accomplished violinist. What made you take up the violin, and what part did it play in your life?
A: He was a legendary musician. I A: Music played an important role in my life—not violin. I played the music, and it
started violin after I heard his name
has its impact, whether it’s singing or any instrument. It is music which impacted
and heard his violin on audio. He was
my making, developing my emotional faculties and emotional perception. Music is
my inspiration to start violin. The
a language without words. My mother was also a musician, a singer. Music was in
year was 1961—I was 13 years old.
our blood. A lot of audio and concerts were around us. Q: What had you heard? What made your eyes light up?
Q: It sounds as if there was a lot of music in your early life, largely through your mother. A: In those days I heard some of the top classical musicians; many of them are not
A: Guruji had brought LPs of Menuhin. I
existing now. I used to attend their concerts; they influenced me a lot. I was also
particularly liked his unaccompanied
influenced as a student, not just as a listener to music, so I had a different grasp of
Bach, and then Mozart, and the
their personality and their nature. Usually when one attends a concert, one is only
Beethoven Sonata of Spring with his
a fan of music, whereas I was a musician, so it wasn’t just gratification for the ears.
sister Hepzibha on piano. In 1962 he
Being a student of music, I learned a lot about not just how they sing, but about
came to India with his sister and he
their imagination.
visited Guruji’s center in Mumbai. I did not meet him; I was a child then. 3
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