ARTIST PROFILE | KIMIKO YOSHIDA
KIMIKO YOSHIDA Interviewed by
JC Lloyd-Southwell d Anvers Original transcript in French Translated into English by JC Lloyd-Southwell d Anvers www.kimiko.fr
Jeff Koons and Henry Moore with their sculptures, Coco Chanel and her designs, Seishonagon and her writing, all unique and all just as iconic as the work of Japanese-born Paris-based artist Kimiko Yoshida, whom we engage today in conversation in an exclusive interview fo FAINT magazine.
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You started in Japan with the desire to express your voice and your art in various media in order to convey different messages. :KHUH GR ZH ÀQG \RX now at this point in time?
I certainly would never have discovered the value of baroque sensitivity if I had not come to live in (XURSH +RZ FDQ D -DSanese woman living in a - formal, reserved - Buddhist culture imagine this art of seduction, profusion and dizziness? The exaltation of whims and the exceptional, ornamental extravagance, theatrical
zle, confuse, disorient, destabilise ...? Especially since, in the brilliant meanings of the culture of the image promoted by a triumphant Catholicism, nothing seems more antithetical to the Shinto aesthetic of subtraction and silence, with the concise minimalism of Zen Buddhism,
and constant minimalism characterised by tense formalism. This formalism that Western fantasy spontaneously attributes WR -DSDQHVH FXOWXUH LV very real in all aspects of life.
But it is there, at the intersection of two cultures, that an aesthetic, a thought which analyses and brings minimalism and Baroque into a dialectical relationship, is invented: subtraction versus saturation, effacement versus profusion, soberness versus seduction - the immaterial plus the sensuality, the emptiness plus the LQHVVHQWLDO GHÀFLHQF\ plus sumptuousness. The almost-nothing plus - Kimiko Yoshida the dizziness, this is the abyss on which my work It is inevitable that your initial life experiences depends. In my work, to the point of young sumptuousness, osten- with the strict formalism this fragility that renders adulthood took place tatious eloquence, the of the Way of emptiness ÀJXUHV DV ZHDNHQHG DQG in Japan, what sort of shimmering and splen- and detachment. It is destroyed, this effaceimpact has this had dour of hyperbole, deco- clear that nothing in the ment which reveals the in your present life in rative overabundance, invention of Baroque ral- image to itself in its obFrance both as an indi- heroic emphasis, the OLHV WKH -DSDQHVH WDVWH scureness, lead to an art vidual, but most impor- voluptuousness of tur- for fragile beauty and of clarity, to a luminous tantly as an artist? moil, dispersal and dis- incompleteness, the H[SHULHQFH ZKHUH GHÀcontinuity - the baroque search for pure form and ciency is no longer depriOn the one hand, there imagination is literally subtraction, the ascetic YDWLRQ EXW DQ DIÀUPDWLRQ LV P\ -DSDQHVH FXOWXUH unimaginable for a Toky- will for self-denial and Deprivation, disappearwhich is based on mini- oite. How do you design effacement, the aptitude ance, effacement or abmalism and subtraction. and feel, when you are in for inner illumination and sence are not therefore a On the other, the profu- Tokyo, the monumental letting go. The appeal of weakness of the picture sion and seduction of outpouring, the illusions the baroque dizziness, or something missing in Baroque, which I discov- RI LQÀQLW\ WKH HOOLSVH DQG which surprises and se- the picture, but the afered in Italy. In between, instability, the frenzy, the duces, is no less active ÀUPDWLRQ RI WKH IRUHYHU there is a tension which oscillation, the fainting, in my art than the mini- uncompleted, and somethe emotion, the anxiety malist orientation of Zen times threatening, meanLV UHà HFWHG LQ P\ ZRUN which are likely to daz- DQG 6KLQWR D FRQÀGHQW ing of the image. In fact, I began my work as an artist in France. I H[LOHG P\VHOI , à HG -Dpan to escape an arranged marriage, the servitude of women, social discipline, the burden of submission to the group. I came to France to become an artist. First I did photography, video, then sculpture and painting. Today, I am also doing blown glass sculptures with master glassmakers in Murano.
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“The sole ‘raison d’être’ of art is to transform what only art can transformâ€?
You have often said that you see art as a shifting metamorphosis. Is this still a common theme in your body of work? And would this be one of the reasons why you continue to marvel your audiences by moving from portraiture to performance installations? What is called “self-portraitâ€? is essentially, for me, the space of transposition, of disappearance, of mutation. Fighting against the “state of thingsâ€?, going against “what isâ€?, that is really for me the very meaning of art. The sole ‘raison d’être’ of art is to transform what only art can transform. Would you consider incursion into other disciplines such as music as a natural progression of your work? Say, even, by way of collaboration with other artists? ,Q P\ Ă€OP There Where I Am Not, I asked a composer, Goran Vejdova, to create the music, in which he included bits
of songs I did a capella. I am happy to work with an artist or a creator, although opportunities are rare because of the fact that I, spontaneously and habitually, work alone without an assistant, without make-up, without stylist, without a lighting technician, etc.
prised, but I agreed to do it. On the other hand, I am surprised I haven’t received thus far any proposals from fashion designers. I have just completed a major series of self-portraits (entitled Paintings) based on Paco Rabanne’s Heritage, in which I set myself a rigorous conceptual protocol: Whilst remaining true no object is ever used in to your aesthetics, its function, all fashion your work appears accessories or dresses to have provided the are systematically dÊsource of inspiration tournÊs [diverted] (I know for numerous projects WKLV FRQFHSW LV GLIÀFXOW WR in fashion, theatre and translate) *See below music. From video clips by Madonna and This protocol of systemrecently Lady Gaga, to atic dÊtournement duthe work of big fash- plicates the unchanged ion houses such as conceptual protocol that I Dior, Viktor & Rolf and have been applying since countless others with 2001: still the same subcollections, runway ject (myself), the same shows and magazine setting, the same light, editorials, does all this which shows that the selffurther validate your portrait is not the subject. work? (For example, The idea is to show that let us compare 04 The the more it is the same Baroque Bride. Self- the more it changes, the portrait, 2001 with the more it is repeated the recent Judas video clip more it differs from itself. by Lady Gaga) In this very repetition, the Someone in the United portrait is losing its distincStates asked me to con- WLYH IXQFWLRQ WKH ´ÀJXUH¾ tribute to a book about effaces what it depicts, Lady Gaga ... I was sur- it dissolves its authority,
it tends to abstraction. It is in this abstraction that , Ă€QG WKH VXEWUDFWLRQ DQG the emptiness that are WKH FRUH RI -DSDQHVH minimalism. Here is the very saturation which is the true “self-portraitâ€?, that is to say the space for the transposition, the disappearance, the mutation. Fighting against the “state of thingsâ€?, going against “what isâ€?, that is probably for me - the meaning of art. Being where I don’t think I am, disappearing from where I think I am, that’s the important thing. LĂ OĂš Je Ne Suis Pas was one of your latest projects and also the title of your newly published book, which some say has proven to be a challenging read, yet your actual portraits require just a quick glance to see the expression of the most sublime beauty, before the viewer becomes soon entranced. Is there a dichotomy between the product and the message? Do you think that beauty is complex and thus feel a need to peel away its many lay-
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01 Painting (Goddess of War Athena by Klimt) Self-Portrait, 2010 Courtesy Paco Rabanne Archival Digital Print on canvas, Anti-UV varnish, 142 X 142CM
ers? (02 The Bride with the Mask of Herself. Self Portrait, 2002). Dichotomy, schize, division, fading, faint are at the heart of my art. Look at my self-portraits entitled MariĂŠes [Brides]: these Brides are single. It is an oxymoron, an “antiphrasisâ€?. What the word describes and what it means are two separate, contradictory registers. Similarly, what the image shows is cleaved from what it means. Therefore, there is no “brideâ€? or “singleâ€? or “self-portraitâ€?: the VDPH Ă€JXUH LV UHSHDWHG but not identical to itself, a face shows itself while masking itself, a portrait declares itself but differs from itself. Similarly, entitling a picture Painting also contradicts the word and the thing, contradicting what is being said and what is shown, bringing two opposites together. It’s a way of bringing altĂŠritĂŠ [otherness], dissimilarity into my own Paintings. This function of otherness, of difference, is that by which the uniqueness of a work of DUW LV GHĂ€QHG ZKHQ DOO LV said and done. Your art is considered compellingly beautiful because, amongst many subject-matters, it portrays beauty in different forms, and since you are both the art and the artist, do references to your own
physical attributes empower or disturb you? The image, which is itself nothing but the appearance of what has disappeared, performs a destructive action just like death, which replaces a living creature by a corpse which looks like it - that’s the main point. My art has always been tied to disappearance; I have always wanted to disappear into my images, into monochromaticity, which is a desire for abstraction. My Self-portraits are images of disappearance LQ ZKLFK WKH ÀJXUH JLYHV the work its meaning by disappearing. When the image aims to capture the meaning of the unrepresentable, the work is realised only when it belongs to what is missing. It is characteristic of scarcity to be always masked by what is missing, which constantly leads the work to face what must be called something impossible to represent. With your work having been exhibited at numerous important institutions including the Venice Biennale and more closely to your Australian followers, the Queensland Center for Photography, are there any signs of a major exhibition in Australia in the nearfuture? The only Australian gal-
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lery owner I have met is Gary Langsford, whom I met at the Venice Biennale. He came to the studio in Paris, but it came to nothing. Find me a good museum in Australia and I will visit you!
Il est inÊvitable que vos expÊriences de vie initiale jusqu’au dÊbut de l’âge adulte aient eu lieu au Japon, quel impact cela a-t-il eu sur votre vie actuelle en France à la fois en tant qu’individu, mais surtout en tant qu’artiste?
To quote Shakespeare: â&#x20AC;&#x2DC;Parting is such sweet VRUURZŇ&#x2039; ZKDW ZRXOG .LPLNR <RVKLGDŇ&#x2039;V Ă&#x20AC;QDO TXRWH Dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;un cĂ´tĂŠ, il y a ma culture japonaise, qui repose sur be for this issue of FAINT Magazine? le minimalisme et la soustraction. De lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;autre, la profusion et la sĂŠduction baroque, que je dĂŠcouvre en , WKLQN RI WKLV OLQH IURP -RKQ /HQQRQ LQ WKH RSHQLQJ Italie. Entre les deux, il y a une tension que lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;on retof I Am the Walrus): I am he as you are he as you rouve dans mon travail. are meâ&#x20AC;Ś -H QŇ&#x2039;DXUDLV FHUWDLQHPHQW MDPDLV SX GpFRXYULU OD YDleur de la sensibilitĂŠ baroque si je nâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ĂŠtais pas venue YLYUH HQ (XURSH &RPPHQW XQH -DSRQDLVH YLYDQW dans une culture bouddhiste - formaliste, rĂŠservĂŠe SHXW HOOH VH Ă&#x20AC;JXUHU FHW DUW GH OD VpGXFWLRQ GH OD profusion et du vertige ? Lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;exaltation du caprice et de lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;exception, la prodigalitĂŠ ornementale, la somptuositĂŠ thÊâtrale, lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ĂŠloquence ostentatoire, les chatoiements et les fastes de lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;hyperbole, la surabondance dĂŠcorative, lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;emphase hĂŠroĂŻque, la voluptĂŠ du tumulte, lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ĂŠparpillement et la discontinuitĂŠ - cet imaginaire baroque est littĂŠralement inimaginable pour une TokyoĂŻte. Comment concevoir et ressentir, quand on est Original Transcript in French Ă Tokyo, le jaillissement monumental, les illusions de OŇ&#x2039;LQĂ&#x20AC;QL OŇ&#x2039;HOOLSVH HW OŇ&#x2039;LQVWDELOLWp OD IUpQpVLH OŇ&#x2039;RVFLOODWLRQ Jeff Koons et Henry Moore et leurs sculptures, lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ĂŠvanouissement, lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ĂŠmotion, lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;inquiĂŠtude propres Ă Coco Chanel et ses crĂŠations, Seishonagon et ĂŠblouir, dĂŠconcerter, dĂŠsorienter, dĂŠstabiliserâ&#x20AC;Ś ? ses ĂŠcrits, tous uniques et tous aussi emblĂŠmatiques que lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;Ĺ&#x201C;uvre de Kimiko Yoshida, artiste nĂŠe au Japon, basĂŠe Ă Paris lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;artiste, qui nous a accordĂŠ cet entretien.
Vous avez dĂŠbutĂŠ au Japon, avec le dĂŠsir dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;exprimer votre voix et votre art dans divers mĂŠdias pour transmettre des messages diffĂŠrents. OĂš en ĂŞtes-vous Ă prĂŠsent? (Q IDLW MŇ&#x2039;DL GpEXWp PRQ WUDYDLO GŇ&#x2039;DUWLVWH HQ )UDQFH -H PH VXLV H[LOpH MH PH VXLV HQIXLH GX -DSRQ SRXU IXLU le mariage arrangĂŠ, la servitude des femmes, la discipline sociale, le poids de la soumission au groupe. -H VXLV YHQXH HQ )UDQFH SRXU GHYHQLU DUWLVWH -Ň&#x2039;DL dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;abord fait de la photographie, de la vidĂŠo, puis de la sculpture et de la peinture. Aujourdâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;hui, je fais ausVL GHV VFXOSWXUHV GH YHUUH VRXIĂ p DYHF GH PDvWUHV verriers Ă Murano.
'Ň&#x2039;DXWDQW TXH GDQV FHV VLJQLĂ&#x20AC;FDWLRQV EULOODQWHV GH la culture de lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;image promue par le catholicisme WULRPSKDQW ULHQ QH SDUDvW SOXV DQWLQRPLTXH DYHF lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;esthĂŠtique shinto de la soustraction et du silence, avec le minimalisme concis du bouddhisme zen, avec le formalisme strict de la Voie du vide et du dĂŠtachement. On voit bien que rien dans lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;invention du baroque ne rallie ce goĂťt japonais pour la beautĂŠ fragile et pour lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;incomplĂŠtude, cette recherche de la forme ĂŠpurĂŠe et de la soustraction, cette volontĂŠ ascĂŠtique de renoncement Ă soi et dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;effacement, cette aptitude Ă lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;illumination intĂŠrieure et au lâcher-prise. Cet appel du vertige baroque, qui surprend et sĂŠduit, nâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est pas moins agissant dans mon art que lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;orientation minimaliste du zen et du shinto, un minimalisme assurĂŠ, constant, au formalisme tendu. Ce formalisme que le fantasme occidental attribue spontanĂŠment Ă la culture japonaise est tout Ă fait rĂŠel et dans tous les aspects de la vie.
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07 Painting (Marchesa Balbi by Van Dyck) Self Portrait, 2007-2009
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Or, câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est bien lĂ , au croisement de deux cultures, que sâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;invente une esthĂŠtique, dans une pensĂŠe qui analyse et fait entrer dans un rapport dialectique minimalisme et baroquisme : soustraction contre saturation, effacement contre profusion, dĂŠpouillement contre sĂŠduction - lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;immatĂŠriel plus la sensualitĂŠ, le vide plus lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;inessentiel, le manque plus la somptuositĂŠ. Le presque-rien plus le YHUWLJH FŇ&#x2039;HVW Oj OŇ&#x2039;DEvPH GRQW PRQ ÂąXYUH GpSHQG 'DQV PRQ ÂąXYUH FHWWH IUDJLOLWp TXL UHQG OD Ă&#x20AC;JXUH DIIDLEOLH HW comme anĂŠantie, cet effacement qui rĂŠvèle lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;image Ă elle-mĂŞme dans son obscuritĂŠ, conduisent Ă un art de clartĂŠ, Ă une expĂŠrience lumineuse oĂš lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;absence nâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est SOXV SULYDWLRQ PDLV DIĂ&#x20AC;UPDWLRQ /D SULYDWLRQ OD GLVSDULtion, lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;effacement ou lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;absence ne sont plus dès lors une dĂŠfaillance de lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;image ou un manque dans lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;image, mais OŇ&#x2039;DIĂ&#x20AC;UPDWLRQ GH OD VLJQLĂ&#x20AC;FDWLRQ j MDPDLV GpFRPSOpWpH HW menaçante parfois, de lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;image.
7RXW HQ UHVWDQW Ă&#x20AC;GqOH j YRWUH HVWKpWLTXH YRWUH ÂąXvres semblent avoir ĂŠtĂŠ la source dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;inspiration de nombreux projets de mode, de thÊâtre et de musique. Des clips vidĂŠo de Madonna et, rĂŠcemment, de Lady Gaga aux crĂŠations de grandes maisons de couture comme Dior, Viktor & Rolf et de nombreuses DXWUHV TXL RQW SUpVHQWp GHV FROOHFWLRQV GHV GpĂ&#x20AC;OpV de mode et des ĂŠditoriaux de magazine, est-ce que tout cela a ĂŠtĂŠ une validation supplĂŠmentaire de votre Ĺ&#x201C;uvres? (Comparons, par exemple, 04 La Jeune MariĂŠe Baroque. Autoportrait, 2001 avec Judas, le rĂŠcent clip vidĂŠo de Lady Gaga)
Quelquâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;un aux USA mâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;a demandĂŠ de participer Ă un livre VXU /DG\ *DJDÂŤ -Ň&#x2039;HQ DL pWp VXUSULVH PDLV MŇ&#x2039;DL DFFHSWp de le faire. En revanche, je suis ĂŠtonnĂŠe de nâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;avoir pas reçu jusquâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;Ă aujourdhui de propositions de la part des FUpDWHXUV GH PRGH -H YLHQV GH UHDOLVHU XQH LPSRUWDQWH Vous avez souvent dit que vous voyiez lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;art comme sĂŠrie dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;autoportraits (intitulĂŠs Peintures) Ă partir du Paco une mĂŠtamorphose mouvante. Est-ce toujours un Rabanneâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;s Heritage R MH PH VXLV Ă&#x20AC;[pH XQ SURWRFROH thème courant dans lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ensemble de votre Ĺ&#x201C;uvres? conceptuel rigoureux: aucun objet nâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est jamais utilisĂŠ Est-il possible que ce soit lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;une des raisons pour dans sa fonction, tous les accessoires de mode ou les lesquelles vous continuez Ă ĂŠmerveiller votre pub- robes coutures sont systĂŠmatiquement dĂŠtournĂŠs. lic en passant des portraits aux installations de performance? Ce protocole de dĂŠtournement systĂŠmatique vient redoubler le protocole conceptuel inchangĂŠ que jâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;applique Ce que lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;on appelle ÂŤautoportraitÂť est dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;abord, pour moi, depuis 2001: toujours le meme sujet (moi-mĂŞme), le lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;espace de la transposition, de la disparition, de la muta- meme setting, la mĂŞme lumière - ce qui montre que tion. Lutter contre lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ÂŤĂŠtat des chosesÂť, aller contre ÂŤce lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;autoportrait nâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est pas le sujet. Il sâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;agit de montrer comqui estÂť, câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est vĂŠritablement lĂ pour moi le sens mĂŞme ment plus câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est la meme chose plus cela change, plus ça de lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;art. La seule raison dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ĂŞtre de lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;art est de transformer se rĂŠpète plus cela diffère de soi. ce que seul lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;art peut transformer. Dans cette rĂŠpĂŠtition mĂŞme, le portrait se vide de sa ConsidĂŠreriez-vous une incursion dans dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;autres dis- IRQFWLRQ GLVWLQFWLYH OD ŠĂ&#x20AC;JXUHÂŞ HIIDFH FH TXŇ&#x2039;HOOH Ă&#x20AC;JXUH ciplines, telle que la musique, comme une progres- elle dissout son autoritĂŠ, elle tend Ă lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;abstraction. Et câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est sion naturelle de votre Ĺ&#x201C;uvre? Voire mĂŞme, en col- dans cette abstraction que je retrouve la soustraction et laborant avec dâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;autres artistes? OH YLGH TXL VRQW OH FÂąXU GX PLQLPDOLVPH MDSRQDLV ,FL câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est la saturation mĂŞme qui est le vĂŠritable ÂŤ autoportrait 'DQV PRQ Ă&#x20AC;OP LĂ OĂš Je Ne Suis Pas, jâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ai demandĂŠ Ă un Âť, câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est-Ă -dire lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;espace de la transposition, de la disparicompositeur; Goran Vejdova, de crĂŠer la musique, oĂš il a tion, de la mutation. Lutter contre lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ÂŤĂŠtat des choses Âť, inclus des morceaux de chansons que jâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ai faites a capel- aller contre ÂŤce qui estÂť, câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est sans doute lĂ pour moi le OD -H VXLV KHXUHXVH GH FROODERUHU DYHF XQ DUWLVWH RX XQ VHQV GH OŇ&#x2039;DUW Ă&#x2C6;WUH Oj R MH QH SHQVH SDV rWUH GLVSDUDvWUH crĂŠateur, mĂŞme si les occasions sont rares du fait que, lĂ oĂš je pense ĂŞtre, voilĂ lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;important. spontanĂŠment et habituellement, je travaille seule, sans assistant, sans maquilleur, sans styliste, sans ĂŠclaira- LĂ OĂš Je Ne Suis Pas a ĂŠtĂŠ lâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;un de vos projets les giste, etc. plus rĂŠcents et câ&#x20AC;&#x2122;est aussi le titre de votre livre, qui a ĂŠtĂŠ publiĂŠ rĂŠcemment et dont certains disent quâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;il
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02 The Bride with the Mask of Herself Self Portrait, 2002 C-print mounted on aluminium and acryl, 120 X 120CM