Climate Discussion Group 2024, CDG2024
Discussion - Policy P1
October - November 2024
1) General
Nov. 28, 2024
Marc Morano USA
Nov. 27, 2024
Terigi Ciccone USA
Top 10 Climate and Energy Action Items for President Trump - Climate Depot
1) Paris Climate Treaty
2) EV mandate
3) Green new scam and Grid Security
4) Oil and Gas
5) Presidential Appointments
6) Offshore wind
7) Coal
8) Litigation
9) Regulatory reform
10) Regulatory burden
TC Recommendation Number 4, consolidate all climate and environmental activities within a new agency, comparable to DOGE, that shall make implementing recommendations on items such as the following:
A) Eliminate the CO2 Endangerment Findings,
B) Restructure NASA's role, stripping it of all climate studies, climate-related authority, funding, and activities,
C) Restructure the role and responsibilities of NOAA to obtain and use the best available tools and means to
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Terigi Ciccone USA
provide the best available weather forecasts,
D) US Government employees may attend any climate conferences, studies, seminars, etc. as they choose as private citizens, on their own time and expenses, and not as representatives or spokesmen for the US government,
E) Re-examing the possible return to Fast nuclear reactors, and fuel reprocessing like France, Russia, China, etc.
F) The US Government to pass a Supremacy Provision guideline on environmental standards in conformance to the Commerce Clause. For example, California may not restrict the commerce of any products, such as internal combustion engines, restrict/alter the flows of streams, rivers, or lakes shared with other states, or enact environmental air, water, and land-use standards more restrictive than the EPA. Rational: US Constitution, The Commerce Clause, Article I, Section 8: Powers of Congress, see https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles /article-i/clauses/752
TC Recommendation Number 3, Revitalize a three-prong US nuclear generation industry.
A) The US Government to terminate the present NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission.)
B) Launch an aggressive new, public-private, technology acceleration program based on advanced Small-Factory-Built reactors using uranium and/or thorium fuels.
C) Launch an aggressive new technology Fusion acceleration program funded jointly by private and public funding.
Rationale-1: The NRC has become a haven for antinuclear activists and replace it with a new public-private commission. Read the article “Congress takes aim at Nation’s nuclear regulator,” Politico, 01/24/2024 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/power-switch/2
Nov. 27, 2024
Terigi Ciccone USA
024/01/24/congress-takes-aim-at-nations-nuclearregulator-00137531
Rationale -2. The US and Europe have already ceded nuclear technology leadership to China. It’s now time to play catchup-- Remember Sputnik?
Quote: “Lawmakers who support a new generation of advanced nuclear power are setting their sights on what they see as the technology’s top obstacle: the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.”
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/powerswitch/2024/01/24/congress-takes-aim-at-nationsnuclear-regulator-00137531
Quote: China successfully tested a uranium-fueled SMR in 2018-2022 in a remote desert. In 2022 it received authorization to convert it to a salt-cooled thorium fuel reactor. Read “Chinese molten-salt reactor cleared for start-up,” 9 August 2022; https://www.world-nuclearnews.org/Articles/Chinese-molten-salt-reactor-clearedfor-start-up
TC Recommendation Number 2, The US Government must terminate all supplemental payments, subsidies, tax holidays, low interest rates, loan forgiveness, etc. for solar and wind electrical Generation.
Rationale: Read the article “Trillions in taxpayer subsidies haven’t made wind and solar power cheaper or better for Americans.” NY Post, Bjorn Lomborg, April 2024.
https://nypost.com/2024/04/09/opinion/taxpayersubsidies-havent-made-wind-and-solar-power-cheaperor-better-for-americans/? mc_cid=fdf414d51f&mc_eid=bc103c2c60
Quote: “Wind and solar are already significantly cheaper than coal and oil” is how President Biden conveniently justifies spending hundreds of billions of dollars on green subsidies.”
November 28, 2024
Nov. 27, 2024
Terigi Ciccone USA
Quote: “Biden’s Energy Information Administration puts solar at 3.6¢ per kilowatt hour, just ahead of natural gas at 3.8¢. But if you reasonably include the cost of reliability, the real costs explode — one peerreviewed study shows an increase of 11 to 42 times, making solar by far the most expensive source of electricity, followed by wind.”
Quote: “Just to pay for the [backup] batteries would cost the US five times its current GDP. And it would have to repurchase the batteries when they expire after just 15 years.”
TC Recommendation Number 1, the UN IPCC (United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) must be defunded and dismantled. Until that happens the USA does not recognize any United Nations authority on climate policies and is to withhold all climate funding and withdraw all prior climate commitments.
Rationale: Read the article: “Crushing climate McCarthyism, junk science of oversimplification, Paris Summit will be raw politics making IPCC irrelevant.” FINANCIAL POST, 2015. James G Matkin.
https://www.academia.edu/11250757/Crushing_climat e_McCarthyism_junk_science_of_oversimplification_ Paris_Summit_will_be_raw_politics_making_IPCC_ir relevant_FINANCIAL_POST? email_work_card=reading-history
Quote: “… The UN is a political organization and suffers the spotty integrity of international politics. Politicians like Al Gore and Barack Obama have been too biased in this science controversy rushing to judgment on what now is "junk science." The science is not settled, whether man made CO2 in the atmosphere will doom us with global warming or not. The IPCC has turned the climate controversy into a circus revival and
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Nov. 27, 2024
Terigi Ciccone USA
should be shut down because their computer models are failed "fairly tales" when tested against reality. The UN political culture of belief and consensus like religion is unhelpful, instead this issue should be dealt with by the much more credible science culture of doubt and individuality essential for progress in science. For example, in law we often have intense controversy over very difficult scientific issues like medical negligence cases. We use medical experts, but only as sworn individuals who can be cross-examined. The IPCC would be disqualified as a group to testify before a judge on the issue of global warming, because they cannot be cross examined as a group...”
Trump and Climate Policy
The headline:
“Climate Scientists Fear Trump Will Destroy Progress In His Second Term – And The Outcome Could Be ‘Grim.’ Possible Climate Rollbacks And Ramped Up Emissions Under Trump Would Be Costly On An International Scale, Scientists Say.”
Part I Public Perceptions and Social Media Implications:
The above sample of recent press and media commentary highlights significant anxiety among climate scientists regarding the potential impact of Donald Trump’s second term on environmental policies. Experts fear that Trump may dismantle the financial support that U.S. universities and their associated researchers have received, which has amounted to tens
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Nov. 22, 2024
Terigi Ciccone, John Shanahan USA
of billions annually.
Part II A Simplified Explanation of Climate Science for Policymakers and High School and University-level Science Students.
Part III There is no climate change crisis. There is only a pending crisis of Trump reducing the climate change funding trough.
Terigi Ciccone in Florida drafted a message congratulating President Trump on his election victory and plans to correct waste and bad policies in the Department of Energy and the Environmental Protections Agency.
John Shanahan in Colorado organized a signature collecting campaign for distinguished signature with focus on getting signatories from BLUE and RED states.
This letter will form the basis of a mandate for changes President Trump promised to make for environmental and energy issues.
Letter
to President Trump
To sign this letter:
1) Send the following to: john.shanahan@allaboutenergy.net
Nov. 21, 2024 John Shanahan USA
2) Name as you want it listed.
3) Short description of your career (six words max).
4) State where you live.
5) Some documents or links to verify who you are.
Requirements for signing this letter:
1) American citizenship or own property in the US and live there several months a year.
2) Support President Trump’s proposals for the Department of Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency.
3) Good career and personal background.
President Trump’s Secretary of Energy appointee Chris Wright, CEO of Liberty Energy has written an exceptional report on the importance of fossil fuels and their by-products for the benefit of all humanity and on CO2 as the molecule of life, not a pollutant.
Bettering Human Lives 2024
This could be one of the best reports about energy sources and their by-products for the modern world ever written by a U.S.Secretary of Energy.
See predecessor Secretary of Energy, Jennifer Granholm and Biden’s mission to force conversion to production of November 28, 2024
Nov. 20, 2024
Gerald Ratzer Canada
electric vehicles.
See Biden’s transgender appointee in the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Sam Brinton. This was purely to focus on the White House’s focus on LGBTQ, not on good nuclear power leadership.
See the disgrace of President Obama’s Nuclear Regulatory Commission Chairman, Gregory Jaczko.
Presidents Biden and Obama appointed people to leadership positions in the Department of energy who were dedicated to promoting unusual lifestyles and bad technologies.
This is the opposite of what President trump has done with Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright.
President Trump’s return to the White House is expected to produce significant corrections in areas of global warming alarmism, environmental protection excesses and wind and solar energy delusion for the modern world
The next few months will be dynamic if not chaotic for the US Government.
Apart from the transition to another Trump term as President, most of the major US departments will have a new Director.
Many of these important positions have been announced and will have to go through approval by the Senate.
Nov. 7, 2024
John Droz
USA
Since this website is called "All About Energy," it is appropriate to look at three of the nominations in the Climate and Energy sector.
Here is a quote from the Manhattan Contrarian -
"Among the announced selections are Trump’s nominees for the three top positions in climate and energy policy: EPA Administrator (Lee Zeldin), Secretary of Energy (Chris Wright), and Secretary of the Interior (Doug Burgum)."
The rest of the article is here.
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2024-1121-a-look-at-president-elect-trumps-picks-for-the-keyenergy-policy-positions
Critically Thinking About Select Societal Issues
Considering the mess that Progressives have left America in, it could be difficult to know where to start fixing things. My view is that (other than adequately addressing the immigration disaster), our departure from real Science is arguably the most impactful matter that needs to be properly resolved.
Science is a process. The point of the Science process is to give the public the best understanding of the technical truths of our existence. But that is not happening!
Just a few real-world examples of this should convey the enormous adverse consequences of this almost totally ignored issue: November 28, 2024
Nov. 4, 2024
Douglas
Lightfoot
Gerald Ratzer
Example #1: Our energy choices should be made based on what real Science indicates that our best options are. None of that is happening!
Example #2: Our concern about Climate Change should be resolved by applying real Science. Almost none of that is happening!
Example #3: Our healthcare system (FDA, CDC, etc.) should be 100% focused on conveying to the public what real Science indicates is in their best interest.
Example #4: Our K-12 education system should be teaching our children what real Science is — which includes training them to be Critical Thinkers. Due to the widespread adoption (49 states!) of the NGSS, none of that is
To our profound detriment, what has replaced real Science is political Science. What that means is that technical matters are dealt with based on political correctness, on virtue signaling, on who profits, etc. None of these have anything to do with real Science, or what is in the best interest of the public and our country.
See full newsletter below
My Letter to RFK Jr.
1. Introduction
Canada
Since the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 's First Assessment Report (FAR) in 1990, the reports have contained at least four significant mistakes that the IPCC has neither acknowledged nor corrected.
These mistakes have been promoted so constantly that governments have come to believe they are true. The result is government policies that hurt their populations.
The situation is so bad that anyone who questions the IPCC results is attacked. Nevertheless, examining the IPCC results has led to several papers identifying and correcting mistakes.
This document summarizes the IPCC's list of significant mistakes, with the hope that the IPCC will acknowledge and correct them.
A second purpose is to inform the climate science community about the extent and significance of the problem. Many papers by climate scientists do not provide this information.
7. Conclusions
This document identifies and includes four significant errors the IPCC made in its official reports: AR4, AR5, and TAR. These errors lead to unrealistic conclusions that are not supported by evidence. These uncorrected errors destroy the IPCC's credibility.
The IPCC must step up and acknowledge these mistakes, correct them, and apologize to the World’s people.
See full report at link below.
Some significant uncorrected errors by the IPCC
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Nov. 3, 2024
Paul Homewood
Ron Clutz
UK, USA
Advanced Briefing for COP29 Baku 2024
Negotiators from across the globe will gather in Baku, Azerbaijan, for the twenty-ninth annual UN climate change conference on November 11. COP29 marks the midpoint of the “COP Presidencies Troika,” a collaborative effort between the United Arab Emirates (UAE, host to COP28) and Brazil (host to COP30 in 2025) aimed at accelerating progress toward the 1.5°C goal. Unlike COP28 in Dubai last year, which hosted a record hundred thousand attendees, COP29 will be smaller, with Baku expected to host around fifty thousand participants.
There is no direct mention in the agenda of a transition from fossil fuels.
The main item up for debate is, as usual, money!
Oct. 31, 2024
Christopher Monckton
UK To: John Shanahan
Dear John, - Many thanks for getting in touch, and for connecting me with two such valiant and distinguished commanders in the Army of Light and Truth, Gerald Ratzer and Terigi Ciccone. This is the public-speaking season, so I am very busy until Christmas, but I propose to finalize and send to the group a copy of our paper on what my team considers to be the single most serious of many errors perpetrated by the climatological community. We have now obtained an independent moderator for our work: Dr John Dewey, FRS, emeritus professor of geology in the University of Oxford.
November 28, 2024
Dr Dewey heard of our work from a control engineer who had explained to him our discovery that, when climatologists had first attempted to borrow feedback formulism from control theory in electronic-engineering physics they had fatally misunderstood it and had consequently overstated the contribution of feedback response to global warming by an order of magnitude, and had overstated global warming itself by a factor 2-3. He had at first been skeptical of our result and had asked to see the lead author. I took him out to lunch and explained the result. He asked to be sent a copy of the then draft paper. Within 24 hours, he had replied that he had read the paper, that the logic was remorseless and that it should be published.
However, he advised us that the paper should be shortened, and that all material not directly essential to the argument (such as derivation of initial conditions) should be stripped out and included in a series of supplemental notes. This work is now complete, and we are at the moment completing references and indexing. Once that is done, Professor Dewey will read the paper again (it is now only 3000 words, with some diagrams that he has described as very clear) and let us know of any further changes that need to be made.
I expect that all this will take about a week, for I am also heavily engaged on a parliamentary case, looking after a gentleman living in social housing in Edinburgh who had been falsely accused of possessing illegal pornographic images on his computer. His solicitor had abandoned him, and he was thinking of suicide. I am hoping to complete the latest phase of the work on his case this week, and shall thereafter have more time to seek the assistance of Gerald Ratzer's group in reviewing my team's result.
I shall be in touch with you all as soon as my head is above the parapet once more. Many thanks, and all the
Oct. 30, 2024
original Dec. 31, 2022
Jay Lehr Terigi Ciccone USA
best for this excellent initiative, - Christopher
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley Hobbit Court, Dyrham, Chippenham, SN14 8HE
Africa is experiencing a type of technological colonialism, by some self-appointed do-gooders bullying Africans in order to deprive the continent of safe, inexpensive, and prolific energy. Some are finally starting to react against them. Will it be soon enough to allow the average African to rise to the standard of living we enjoy in the West? Kelvin Kemm, a prominent nuclear engineer in South Africa, tells us what happens. European countries arrive in Africa and tell the citizens what they think is good for them, then threaten punitive economic measures if not done as they are told. African countries are instructed to cease using coal power and buy German wind turbines instead. In addition, they try and convince the Africans to start a new industry producing hydrogen though there are no buyers or realistic uses as an energy source. These fraudsters preach its vast potential, and some countries are buying this complete fraud. Kemm spoke at a green conference in Johannesburg where speakers from Switzerland, Germany, and France, amongst others, told the attendees that Africa must not be allowed to increase electricity production by more than 10%. Not 10% per year but 10% ever. A Swiss speaker told the audience that his country's lifestyle should not be followed. They should show the world how to live in harmony with nature and not build a modern infrastructure. He went on to say that the world's increasing total Gross Domestic Product (GDP) must be stopped, because growth in GDP was bad for the climate.
The Purposeful Impoverishment of African Nastions
Oct. 28, 2024
Vincent Drnevich
USA
To: The Editor
The Exponent
Purdue University
West Lafayette, Indiana, USA
Subject:
Where is Purdue’s Climate Action Plan?
Dear Editor,
I read the Purdue Climate Change Plan article with interest. It is based solely on the findings of the IPCC where climate change is assumed to be caused by trace greenhouse gases, especially CO2.
There is an increasing number of respected climate scientists whose findings differ from those of the IPCC. One example is the work of Robert Ian Holmes of Australia whose work is summarized in this link. He points to the work of Nikolov and Zeller [who] provided a robust mathematical model of the earth’s climate based on measurable physical phenomena: the albedo of the earth, the atmospheric pressure, and the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI). These parameters drive the temperature of the earth, not fossil fuel generated CO2 in the atmosphere.
See this link for his original and other scientific papers related to this topic, most of which disagree that CO2 causes climate change.
If the above-described work is credible, then efforts to become carbon neutral will be of little use. Carbon capture and sequestration will be wasted effort.
Oct. 25, 2024
Rafe Champion, Jeff Grimshaw Australia
That money would be better spent on education, healthcare, helping the poor, and infrastructure. It may be premature for Purdue to have a Climate Change Plan.
See full article here.
Where is Purdue’s Climate Action Plan
Book: Trigger Warming, Chapter 1 The Good the Bad and the Ugly
The cost of climate mitigation policies is usually counted in dollars (if it is counted at all) without much attention to the collateral damage inflicted on humans and the environment. Some may find this more disturbing than the dollar cost. That cost amounts to some trillions of dollars every year worldwide and this money could be spent on facilities and services that enhance human health and welfare instead of making electricity more expensive.
This chapter sketches the human cost in terms of lives lost (the biofuel story) and lives that are not being saved for want of reliable electric power that could be provided by hydrocarbon (fossil) fuels.
The environmental impacts include the loss of birds, bats and rainforests, the clearing of ecosystems to make way for solar panels and windmills, the looming problem of disposing of old panels and wind turbines with their highly toxic components.
Link to Chapter 1
Oct 11, 2024
Christopher Monckton
Oct. 11, 2024
Gerald Ratzer
Address to British Parliament: The Environmental Research Letter by Cook et al. in 2013, is why you believed, without checking, that there was a “consensus”. It said 97% of almost 12,000 climate science papers over 21 years had stated that global warming was chiefly manmade. Note that that “consensus” proposition does not say global warming will be dangerous. Yet that did not stop Mr Obama, as well as Ministers in this place, from asserting, falsely, that 97% of climate scientists had agreed that global warming is or may become “dangerous”. There was and is no such agreement among the scientists.
Parliamentary Brief, Netzero - The real strategic threat 2024
Why Net Zero is an unnecessary disaster:
• The EU, Germany and the UK are leading the way to Net Zero. “A pathway for the global energy sector to achieve net zero CO2 emissions by 2050.”
• These countries have enshrined in laws reaching Net Zero by 2050.
• They have among the highest electrical energy rates in the World. California at 36 cents/kWh is also on the high side.
• Wind and solar are intermittent, unreliable and expensive.
• Wind, solar, nuclear and hydro do not produce any products
• Crude oil, gas and coal are needed by the petrochemical industry. People in the wealthier countries use some 6,000 products – plastics, paints, resins, tires, cars, phones, etc.
• Countries are losing their industrial capacity to make steel, to make chemicals, mining, etc. – e.g. BASF, Bayer, DSM.
• The farmers and others are opposing the restrictions.
• Many countries have elections this year.
• Many politicians will be losing their positions.
Recommendations
• There is no need to reduce CO2 and no need for Net Zero.
• Understand the benefits and disadvantages of all sources of energy. A comprehensive cost/benefit study is needed.
• The population of the Earth has gone from 1 to 8 billion over the last 200 years, attributed to the transition to coal and oil. Fossil fuels are the basis for the rise in standard of living.
• World deaths from Climate causes have declined 98% over the last century. Increased Resilience and Climate mastery.
• People climb out of poverty by having a safe, stable environment (no wars) and inexpensive, reliable electricity.
• Burning fossil fuels does generate pollution in the form of soot and toxic gases. There are clean energy technologies to remove most of this pollution (scrubbers and precipitators).
• CO2 is not a pollutant and generates a tiny warming effect.
• CO2 is boosted from 400 ppm to 1,200 ppm for optimal growth, by commercial greenhouse growers. © Lightfoot & Ratzer 2024
• The World Bank should not tell poorer countries to use unreliable power generation (windmills and solar). They should fund reliable (24 x 7) power plants and pollution reduction gear.
• Poverty reduction is the top priority for the UN – not Climate Change (#13)! See the 17 Global GoalsSustainable Development
• Countries should transition from fossil fuels to nuclear for generating electricity. Small Modular Reactors?
Recommendations for Policy Makers 2024 November 28, 2024
Oct. 11, 2024 John Shanahan
What are the biggest changes in the world relative to climate and humanity?
Government leaders in Europe and North America, think tanks, non-profit organizations and government-grantseeking universities want you to believe that the big problem is man-made global warming from use of fossil fuels.
Nature hasn’t changed that much. We just have to remember what nature was like 300, 1,000, 2,000 years ago.
What has changed is that the human population has grown from 1 billion to 8 billion and we have built many more buildings, electrical wires, infrastructure, etc. all very vulnerable to what nature has always been doing.
We have made problems for ourselves with more people and modern living - stopping living in caves or log cabins.
Our “smarter” government leaders and their advisors insist that we stop using fossil fuels and their by-products and go back to log cabins with gardens nearby or caves, spears and hunting!!!
This would cause a drastic reduction in population.
That is what certain self-appointed leaders have been planning since the 1960s!!