July 2015 Issue
The official monthly publication of the Railway & Locomotive Historical Society Southern California Chapter
98 YEAR OLD NEGATIVES COME TO LIGHT AFTER 55 YEARS
A group of eight film size 127 negatives and one 4x5 inch negative that had been donated to the chapter in 1960 were recently found by former chapter chairman Roger Simon in some papers from his time as chairman. A letter with the negatives indicated that they were taken in 1917 and 1918. One 127 negative is at Camp Lewis, Washington. Seven negatives ( including the 4x5) are from Richmond, Virginia. The last (see photo) is from the Northwestern Pacific railroad.
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he 127 film size was used primarily in Kodak “Brownie” cameras. The negative size was 1 5/8 x 2 1/2 inches. The negatives are not very sharp but the content is interesting. The locomotive appears to be No. 85, an 1884 product of Baldwin Locomotive Works. It
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had 14 x 18 cylinders and 51” drivers. The locomotive was originally number 14 of the South Pacific Coast Railroad before becoming No. 85 of the narrow gauge North Pacific Coast, then the North Shore which was controlled by the Southern Pacific.
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n 1907 the Northwestern Pacific was formed in 1907 by the Southern Pacific and Santa Fe. The Northwestern Pacific retained the narrow gauge road and operated dual gauge lines in the north bay area.
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hanks to Roger Simon for researching the information on this locomotive. 1
A Letter from the Editor By John Shatsnider
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ews from the June work party was supplied by John Shatsnider. Membership Survey info was supplied by John Shatsnider. Clyde Stoneman supplied info about the negative. Paul Guercio supplied the information about the Outer Harbor update. If you have any stories or photos that you would like to be printed in the OP, please send them to rlhssocalchapter@yahoo.com; as well as any comments, concerns about this publication.
Your feedback is always needed and greatly appreciated.
2015 Railroadiana Show
Looking to Pitch in? If you're a new member or just looking for something to do, then you've found the right place. There are many different ways you can volunteer your time at the museum -- working on our historic equipment, our archive department, or helping out in the Arcadia Depot. We also need people to come out and greet visitors and show them around the museum. No experience is needed, only the desire to come out and help promote railroad history and preservation. Please contact John Shatsnider at Jshatsnider@yahoo. com or 909 223 3355 to find out how to get started.
BOD Update Your Board of Directors met on the Saturday the 13th of June at the Los Angeles County Fairplex. Topics at the meeting included the approval of meeting minutes from April 11, 2015, reports from the treasurer, and the retail sales manager.
Once again the Chapter will be participating in the 2015 Railroadiana Show in Buena Park, on August 2nd from 9:00-3:00. This is a great show that is packed with railroad memorbilia and history. This show is a great way for the Chapter to get expousure and meet those interested in railroadiana. Clyde Stoneman will be staffing our table again this year. If you would like to come out and assist him, please contact him as soon as possible. Clyde Stoneman lstone45@aol.com
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New business included the approval of funding to replace the damaged information sign on the Outer Harbor locomotive. As well as new sign age for the UP 3105 and caboose. Directors Kershaw and Mcferson are heading up the creation of the new signs. A new committee structure was approved and a listing of these committees will be appearing in a future OP, so if you are interested in getting involved look for those soon. The next Board of Directors meetings is scheduled for Saturday August, 8th at the Fairplex Admin building. Any member is welcome to come and listen in on the meeting. If you would like a copy of meeting minutes from this meeting or any BOD meeting please contact secretary Rick Brown, his email is listed on the back of this OP.
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June Work Party/Open House The June Work Party/Open House saw good weather and great people. Both days saw large crowds that were excited about all that is going on at RailGiants. Work continued on the Pullman windows with new windows being installed by Larry Blair. A new A/C system was installed in the library section of the Santa Fe Horse Car. This will not only make the library more comfortable to work in. It will also stablilize the temperature inside the car, which is good for the collections stored there. June also saw a lot of late spring cleaning happen. The area behind the Arcadia Depot was thoroughly gone through and a large amount of space was created. This will hopefully one day serve as an excellent protected work space. Lots of exciting things are happening and we hope to see you out at RailGiants in July.
Above- Larry Blair installs the new windows. Above-Left- The finished product
Right-Above- New wood is cut for the Outer Harbor Tender Right-Below- The area behind the Arcadia Depot is cleaned out.
Significant progress was made in June on cosmetic restoration of the Outer Harbor 0-6-0 locomotive and tender. The tender oil and water tanks were grit blasted, primed with epoxy primer, and painting with black polyurethane was almost completed. The sides of the water tank have been painted white over the primer. George Walker, the Chapters master graphics artist, will apply stick-on lettering to the white base, and then the black top coat will be applied to the sides. After the black has dried, the stick-on lettering will be removed, revealing the white letters beneath. The painting and lettering work is expected to be completed in August. The tender frame was also primed and areas that will be visible were top coated with black. Wood for the tender deck has been delivered, and it will be coated with sealer during the July work party. It should be ready for installation in August. Also, steel plates were delivered and cut to size to replace the corroded steel plates that strengthen the tender frame in the center and above the trucks. These plates were painted with primer, and rivet holes will be drilled in August. The plan is to rivet the plates in place during the August work party (three people required), and this task should be interesting to observe. Shelly Hunter’s father, machinist Ken Hunter, is making the rivet sets for this work. After the plates are in place, the wood deck can be installed and the oil and water tanks lifted back in place. With some luck, this might be completed before the Fair. 3
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2015 Membership Survey Results Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2015 RailGiants Membership Survey. Average interest in RailGiants Train Museum
As of today we have a total of 168 members, and we had 48 surveys returned.
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The results of this survey will help the Board of Directors, direct the chapter in the best interest of the membership Thank you
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Average years of membership
17 Years
Member age Averages 70+
46-69 31-45
No Answer 0-30 44.5%
36%
10.5%
0%
8.5%
Members involved in other Rail Groups
Member Interests Fund raising Metalworking Archiving Retail Sales Woodworking Organization leadership Railroad books and photos Facility Maintenance Membership recruitment Docent Tours
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10.5% 17%
27.5%
19% 17% 15%
38%
Yes 72%
No 20% n/a 6%
25.5% 12.5% 34%
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2015 Los Angeles County Fair Calendar
Please send calendar to
Rob Shatsnider 1438 Cambridge Ave. Upland Ca 91786 Or
Bring to the Arcadia Depot during the July or August Work Party/Open House.
The Los Angeles County Fair this year runs from September 4th-27th. As in past years the Fair is closed on Mondays and Tuesdays. Please mark on the above calendar the days and hours which you are available to come out and volunteer. We are always in need of people to work the weekday morning shifts. This is when the school children come and visit the museum and having people in the cabs of the locomotives is crucial to the children’s understanding and enjoyment of the museum. Weekends are also very busy and we like to have people in every cab if possible.
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1438 Cambridge Avenue Upland, CA 91786
John Shatsnider, OP Editor ............ jshatsnider@yahoo.com
Board Members Contact Emails: Rob Shatsnider, Chairman ....................shatsnider@aol.com Paul Guercio, Vice Chairman ............ Paul4014@yahoo.com Rick Brown, Secretary ........................rjbrown5@verizon.net Steve McFerson, Treasurer............mcfersons@sbcglobal.net
John Mastrobouni ............................ jamastro@cableone.net Robert Krave ................................. robert.krave@verizon.net Larry Blair ..............................................aviengr@verizon.net Frank McCaffer............................frankmccaffer@yahoo.com Jim Cummings.............................................jimniec@cox.net Allen Kershaw....................................adk@nmrnet.usc.edu
Important dates for your calandar July Work Party
Sat. &Sun, July 3 &14
Railroadiana Show
Sun, Aug. 2nd.
August Work Party
Sat. & Sun, Aug. 8&9
Los Angeles County Fair
Sept. 4-27th
The official publication of the Railway and Locomotive Historical Society Southern California Chapter, ISSN 0197-6591 This is a monthly publication sent free of charge to all chapter members. Non-member subscriptions can be obtained via Email at $15.00 per year or in print sent by mail at $20.00 per year.
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