The Lookout Volume 61, Issue 12

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Volume 61, Issue 12

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Rim Rocker

Artistic expression takes to whiteboard for display in A&S Building Page >>> 5

Lady Stars earn victory against Lake Michigan in final home game Page >>> 8

The LCC men’s basketball team dunked its way to a 90-69 win against Lake Michigan College Feb. 24. Pictured here, sophomore Tevin Ali delivers a crowd-pleasing dunk in the first half of the contest. The Stars began the evening by honoring the sophomore athletes on the team. This special night will not only be remembered for the sophomores’ ceremony, but also for several LCC players who had rim-rocking slam dunks during the game. See story on page 8.

Annual LCC job and intern fair bridges gap for students, employers Page >>> 16


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Importance of voting discussed during Malcolm X symposium By Maddy Warren Staff Writer The LCC Black History Awareness Committee held a symposium to celebrate Black History Month Feb. 20 in the Gannon Building’s Michigan Room. This year’s Black History Awareness theme is “African Americans and the Vote.” The theme was demonstrated through performance, speakers and presentations. Dr. Willie Davis kicked off the symposium with a few words and introductions. A local dance group, African Masquerade Dancers, performed for the attendees. Besides Davis, speakers included Dr. Eugene Cain; Barbara Roberts Mason, the first African American woman elected to the State Board of Education; and LCC Trustee Angela Mathews. Dr. Maxine Hankins Cain shared a spoken performance featuring the work of Fannie Lou Hamer, the founder of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party. LCC students Keonta Campbell and Jaharie Green gave a presentation on the now-defunct Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC). Campbell is the president of the Prodigy Production Club. Green is president of the Black Student Union at LCC. All of the speakers emphasized the importance of voting; more specifically the importance of young adults voting. Mathews talked about voting, as well as participating in the census.

Recruitment events are scheduled

Participate in an array of job fair and recruitment events scheduled at LCC this spring. From 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Wednesday, March 18, the “Non-Profit and Government Agencies” fair will connect businesses and students. The event will take place at LCC’s downtown campus in the Gannon Building’s second-floor highway. While at the fair, students can meet with representatives from area companies who are looking for volunteers, interns and employees. Students seeking part-time employment can find assistance at the LCC “Summer Job Fair.” Representatives from Lansing businesses are looking to recruit during this event, Tuesday, April 21, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.

Computer lab will be relocated

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LCC Trustee Angela Mathews speaks at the Malcolm X Symposium in the Michigan Room.

“You need to vote, if you haven’t registered to vote then you need to register to vote,” Mathews said. “The census is coming up, and it is quite important. You need to fill the information out, you need to turn the information in … do not let your voice be not heard.” Hir Nayak, a first-year LCC Early College student, attended the event. “I heard it from … my civics teach-

er,” Nayak said. “We had an assignment to attend any community meetings. I’m part of the LCC community because I’m a student here, so that’s what interested me.” Nayak said her favorite part of the symposium was Maxine Hankins Cain’s performance of Fannie Lou Hamer. For upcoming Black History Awareness events visit www.lcc.edu/bha.

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Equifax breach or numerous breaches since then. The IRS recommends filing taxes as soon as possible as the best defense against fraud. LCC Director of Information Security Paul H. Schwartz offered the following tips for people before they file: * Keep your eye on your information! Don’t carry your Social Security card or other info containing your Social Security number (SSN) with you.

* Don’t give businesses your SSN just because they ask for it. Give it only when required. * Do not email your W-2 or any other confidential information. Email is the equivalent of a postcard; everyone can see it. * If you must send your SSN over email, encrypt it with a product like 7-Zip or use the encryption in Microsoft Word and Excel and in Adobe PDFs.

The LCC downtown campus computer lab will be located in TLC 321 after spring break. It will be closed during spring break to allow equipment to be moved. Upon reopening, computer lab hours will remain the same: 7:30 a.m.-10:30 p.m. Monday through Thursday; and 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. Friday through Sunday. This move allows the college to continue renovations of the TLC Building. Construction will be complete later in 2020. For timelines and updates, visit the TLC Renovation website

Interview workshop is March 16

All LCC students looking for assistance preparing for their dream jobs can start by visiting the interviewing workshop Thursday, March 16. The workshop will teach guests how to dress for an interview, “elevator speech” and strategies for successful interviews. The free event will be held from 4 to 5 p.m. in the Gannon Building, room 2214. Check-in begins at 3:45 p.m. and pre-registration is encouraged online at www.lcc.edu/studentjoblink.

Police department offers help The LCC Department of Public Safety is dedicated to protecting and serving students with an array of helpful services. Services include vehicle lockout and battery jump assistance, as well as the Rave Guardian App to contact LCC police discreetly. The phone number is (517) 483-1800.


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LCC Student Senate formation in works By Robin Morales Associate Editor Permission to create a student senate organization at LCC, advocated for by the academic senate, was supported by Provost Sally Welch and Dean of Student Affairs Ronda Miller Jan. 31. Officers from college clubs were invited to an introductory meeting Feb. 14 in the Gannon Building to discuss how the student senate might be structured and how it could govern. Various technical components, such as operational procedure, membership qualifications and meeting information, were reviewed in an early charter draft. “I think this is pretty groundbreaking,” said Monica Del Castillo, counselor and vice president of the academic senate. “Sometimes we, as in faculty and staff, think we know what students want and need, and we try to advocate for those things. “But sometimes we’ve found out that we’re just dead wrong,” Del Castillo added. “And so being able to give students the ability to talk for themselves is critical … to actually be heard and have an impact.” The charter was drafted by Del Castillo and physics professor Alex Azima, who

wrote the charter for the academic senate in 2012. “The purpose of the student senate will be to provide student input and advice to the administration,” the charter states, “concerning student-centered issues and concerns, institutional policies, deployment of institutional resources, and other matters that impact students.” One of the proposals states that student representatives to the senate will be selected from clubs, the early college, student veterans, student athletes and other diverse student affiliations. Another clause in the charter states the possibility of paid student employment positions for the senate’s president, vice president and secretary. Azima said it will be important for the student senate to function as an active participant in the proceedings of college policies and governance. “I get dismayed when students, the heart of this institution, are not being listened to,” Azima said. “We have had students come to the board (of trustees) and been dismissed. “We hear from students who have told us, ‘Yeah the sculptures are great, but how about this other issue that we have.’”

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LCC counselor Monica Del Castillo looks on as LCC registered student organization officers brainstorm about how a potential student senate might participate in policy making at the college.

Del Castillo reiterated the student senate is still in the planning stages. “At this point,” Del Castillo said, “it is a highly regarded initiative by both the administration as well as the academic sen-

ate, but … it is not a done deal.” For future news about the potential formation of student senate bylaws and meeting information, be sure to check-in with future issues of The Lookout.


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LCC History Club engages with film, ‘42’ By Robin Morales Associate Editor The LCC History Club viewed and discussed the film “42,” which dramatizes the life and baseball career of Jackie Robinson, during a movie-night event Feb. 25 in the Arts and Sciences Building. Jesse Goldberg-Strassler, the radio play-by-play broadcaster for the Lansing Lugnuts, spoke after the film about the history of baseball’s segregated Negro Leagues. He added contextual depth to an understanding of how Jackie Robinson broke major league’s color barrier in 1947 with the Brooklyn Dodgers. “Even after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier, it wasn’t really broken,” Goldberg-Strassler said. “There was harassment; there was still a lot that had to go on.” Though he was a star infielder for 10 seasons, Robinson was not exempt

from persecution or intimidation. His resilience and perseverance in the sports world highlights a specific facet of African-American history, according to LCC History Club President Lydia Warnke. “(The film) reminds people of what life was like back then, like how segregated America was,” Warnke said. “It wasn’t finished in the Civil War. It was a long-fought battle that continues even today.” Robinson helped the Dodgers win the World Series in 1955. He was the first Black baseball player inducted into the Hall of Fame, in 1962. His number, 42, is the only number retired league-wide by Major League Baseball. “Within our society, I think it’s always a good reminder to look back at those historic figures,” said Ryan De Guia-Claypool, a history club member. “Whether they were political, (in) sports, or society; people that

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Jesse Goldberg-Strassler discusses the extent of accuracy in the film “42” with LCC History Club members.

made a big impact within our history. “I think Jackie Robinson is a great figure in African-American history,” De Guia-Claypool added. “Individu-

als in our society can look up to those figures and say, ‘I can dream of that one day in my life’ because it was made possible.”

Many campus services available during spring break By Chloe Gregg Staff Writer Spring break is approaching to give all LCC students a little breather from the stress that college brings.

Many students will be off soaking in the sun and taking a much-needed break from classes. But for those who remain, LCC’s main campus will stay open during this time.

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Student Emma Hancock receives assistance from Erika Orozco at the front desk of the LCC StarZone.

According to John Szilagyi, the interim director of LCC’s library, the library will be closed over spring break due to renovations, but the testing center will be open. The testing center’s hours for spring break are Monday through Thursday from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. (last test given at 3 p.m.) and will be closed Friday through Sunday. “During spring break, the library will be closed and the computer lab will be closed because we will be moving things during that time,” Szilagyi said. “But when we get back from spring break, starting March 16, the third floor of the library will be open. We will be doing all of our checkout material, all reference questions will all take place on the third floor.” The Learning Commons will also be closed during spring break. LCC’s weight room will be open during normal hours over spring break for students and staff to use. According to LCC’s website, “During the week of spring break, many department staff will engage in professional development activities

designed to improve customer service. “The areas participating in the professional development activities are the StarZone; Student Finance; Financial Aid; the Center for Student Support; Admissions, Registration & Records; and West Campus Student Services. Staff from these departments will be available to assist students or employees if needed.” These departments will be available at the same time as the StarZone. Dom Vaughn, an employee in the StarZone, listed the hours for his area during spring break. “On Monday and Tuesday, March 9 and 10, the StarZone will be open from 8 a.m. to noon,” Vaughn said. “On Wednesday, March 11, the StarZone will be open from noon to 4 p.m. They will be closed all day Thursday and Friday, March 12 and 13.” The Gannon Commons food court will be closed during spring break, with the exception of the Grand Avenue Market, which will be open from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Monday through Thursday.


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History club members enjoy trip to Motown By Maddy Warren Staff Writer Students in the LCC History Club took a trip to Detroit Feb. 8 to visit the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History, the Detroit Historical Museum and the Detroit Institute of Art. A group of nine participants went on the trip. “We started at the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History, where we explored African-American history through interactive exhibits and saw the art exhibit ‘Queen: From the Collection of CCH Pounder (an actress from Guyana),’” club member Julie Clampitt said. After the first museum, club members went to the Detroit Historical Museum. “We wandered through a replica of Detroit’s streets in different time periods,” Clampitt said. “We played around in the Kid Rock Music Lab, and got to watch model trains go around and around on their tracks.” The club’s last stop was the DIA. “I mostly hung around in the me-

dieval section, although I did make a quick detour to see their puppet exhibit because they had Kermit the Frog!” Clampitt said. Lydia Warnke, another club member, said she learned a lot of Detroit history on the trip. “Sometimes I forget how big the automotive industry was in Michigan,” Warnke said. “I have always heard about the Detroit riots but knew very little about what actually happened. Learning the history prepares you for the future.” Clampitt and Warnke agreed their favorite part of the trip was the DIA. “All the art was beautiful, and holds much history,” Warnke said. “Much of our knowledge and stories about ancient times were recorded in the paintings, rugs, drawings, pottery and statues ... History is a story that can be beautiful along with educational.” Added Clampitt: “I could’ve easily spent all day there … I was so fascinated by all of the beautiful Medieval art, swords, and armor … They have an actual tiny chapel from around (the year)

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Members of the LCC History Club gather for a group photo in front of The Detroit Institute of Arts.

1522/1524 and it’s just so incredible to be able to see … and the stained-glass windows in it are utterly amazing.” The history club members plan to take a trip to the Michigan History Center in Lansing late March or April and the

Field Museum in Chicago in May. The club’s next meeting is Friday, March 6 at 11 a.m. in the EHS lobby, A&S 2203. For more info, contact the club’s adviser, Wade Merrill, at merrilw1@star.lcc. edu.

Student brings cartoon art to whiteboards By Robin Morales Associate Editor Passersby on the second floor of the A&S Building will surely have laid their eyes on the artwork of LCC freshman Travis Burlingame, depicting popular characters from television and video games on the whiteboards. Drawing with his personal set of Expo markers, Burlingame, a graphic art major, has made the whiteboards his own canvas. He has created impressive homages to franchises including Star Wars, Pokémon and Dragon Ball Z. “I have a two-hour break in between classes,” Burlingame said, “and I just didn’t really have anything to do. I saw the whiteboard and I wondered if I was allowed even to draw on it. “I saw other people doing different things and different notes and stuff like that … so I just kind of started (drawing). It’s kind of a way to pass the time, but it became a little bit more than that.”

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LCC freshman Travis Burlingame stands in front of his rendition of iconic characters including Homer Simpson, and Fin and Jake from “Adventure Time,” Feb. 17 on the second floor of the A&S Building.

Fellow students began commenting on the skill and realism of Burlingame’s

art, asking him to draw other things and leaving written suggestions on the

whiteboards. Over time, his visibility as “that guy who draws on the whiteboards” grew. “People would ask me … ‘oh can you do this,’” Burlingame said. “And if I felt like doing them, yeah … (I’d say) ‘OK I’ll try.’ “It feels good to be recognized like that, but I don’t do it for that. I just do it to have something there to look at. It’s kind of nice walking through the hallway.” LCC sophomore Lauren Kauffman said she enjoys seeing Burlingame’s artwork. “I think it’s kind of cool that people are like that artistic,” Kauffman said. “I’m not at all artistic so I think it’s kind of cool seeing the skills that (LCC) students have.” Freshman Jake Brown agreed. “I’m glad somebody’s putting art there that people can look at,” Brown said. “It’s cool. I like it. It’s a good idea.”


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CLUB SPOTLIGHT

Turning Point educates on political issues By Maddy Warren Staff Writer Political Science Professor Randy Watkins has been the adviser for LCC’s Turning Point USA since the beginning of the spring semester. Founded in 2012, by Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA is a nationwide, non-profit organization. “The mission is to identify, educate, train, and organize students to promote the principles of fiscal responsibility, free markets and limited government,” Watkins said. Turning Point organizations are located on college campuses across the country. Michigan State University, Central Michigan University and Grand Valley State University are some of the other schools located in Michigan with Turning Point programs. The LCC Turning Point club typically meets on Wednesdays in the Gannon Building from 11 a.m. to noon. Club President Ryan De Guia-Claypool is very involved with the organization.

“A lot of universities and colleges will have Turning Point USA clubs that want to get young college students active within the political environment,” Claypool said. “Whether that’s volunteering, or hearing speakers and attending conferences to hear certain speakers.” Claypool attended the Turning Point USA Great Lakes Regional Convention in November of 2019 in Cleveland. There he saw guest speaker and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk. He also had the chance to meet Jaco Booyens, the director of “8 Days,” a movie about human trafficking in the United States. He also met military veteran and political speaker Graham Allen. “They do a variety of things at their conferences,” De Guia-Claypool said. “They have (the) speakers … a lot of conservative organizations also come and set up tables for students to join them.” De Guia-Claypool said at least 10 schools attended the conference, and that almost every Ohio college/univer-

sity with a Turning Point USA had representation there. The LCC club is still in the process of planning upcoming events and activities. De Guia-Claypool said he hopes to host an event in the near future with state legislators and a member of the governor’s office to discuss the 2020 budget, and how they go about working on it. “This past year there was very much gridlock within our state government about how we want to handle our budget with Republicans passing no gas tax and the Democratic Governor, Gretchen Whitmer, who wanted to have a gas tax increase within the budget,” he said. “Since we’re so close to the Capitol I thought, why not invite some legislators to come to talk to young minds about how the state government works with the budget.” The club is planning a meeting after spring break on Monday, March 23. For location and room number, contact Randy Watkins at watkinr@star. lcc.edu.

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Turning Point President Ryan De Guia-Claypool (left) is shown with the director of “8 Days,” Jaco Booyens.

STUDENT SPOTLIGHT

Student’s goal is to protect and serve his community

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Mitchell Nixon is shown in front of the LCC Police and Public Safety office.

By Chloe Gregg Staff Writer Ever since high school, Mitchell Nixon has wanted to protect and serve the citizens of the United States. Through Lansing Community College, he is now able to do just that. After taking classes at both Ferris State University and LCC, Nixon continues to major in criminal justice at LCC, as well as working as a cadet for LCC’s Police and Public Safety. Becoming a police officer was a no-brainer, according to Nixon. “I had a couple of family members in law enforcement,” Nixon

said. “I had a couple of family friends in law enforcement, as well, and they got me into it.” As a police cadet and part of LCC’s public safety office, Nixon is among those directly responsible for the safety of other LCC students and faculty. He said he also strives to be a helpful asset to the students and staff. “We’re emergency response for natural disasters or campus security,” Nixon said. “We’re also here for security during events. “We unlock doors, jump people’s cars, get people into their cars if they’re locked out. (We do)

anything the police officers don’t have time to do.” Along with protecting and serving the students and staff of LCC, Nixon attends general and specialized classes full time as his fourth year in college comes to an end. Aaron Clapp, a long-time coworker of Nixon and an intermediate officer, spoke highly of Nixon. “(Mitchell’s) always been very professional and competent,” Clapp said. “He’s a reserve police officer at another department, so he brings a little bit more experience and perspective to the table.”


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Men earn triumph on sophomore night By Julie Newell Sports/Photo Editor The LCC men’s basketball team opened up its last home game of the season against Lake Michigan College with a celebration of the sophomore athletes Feb. 24. The sophomores are Tevin Taylor, Skyler Wilson, Tevin Ali, Darious Young, Brandon Suttles, Aaron Latimer and Xaviah Andrews. The celebration didn’t end there. The Stars pulled out a 90-69 win against Lake Michigan College that night. “I feel like, as a team, we played better today,” Suttles said. “We moved the ball, we made some shots, and we came here to win on sophomore night.” Taylor led the team by scoring 20 points. He and Ali grabbed eight rebounds each for the Stars. Young delivered eight assists for LCC. “I think that in the last couple weeks Tevin Taylor has really come out of nowhere with his positive leadership, with how hard he is playing,” LCC Head Coach Mike Ingram said.

Ingram spoke on the energy of the team and how it changed throughout the season. “Our energy is something to see; I mean it’s an energy that’s hard to explain,” Ingram said. “The guys, they get upset with each other, they get upset with their teammates, but it’s a positive type of upset. Before it was a negative type of vibe that the guys were giving. All of a sudden we turned into a team that I always thought we would be, at the right time.” The win gave the Stars a four-game winning streak. “It feels real good to go on this winning streak,” Latimer said. “(We’re) finally getting the team chemistry together.” The streak ended Feb. 26, when the Stars lost 95-79 at Mid Michigan College in the final game of the regular season. This loss put the Stars overall season record at 13-16, and at 9-9 in the MCCAA Western Conference. The Stars will compete in the NJCAA Region XII Division II Great Lakes West Men’s Tournament, Tuesday, March 3 at Kellogg Community College.

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LCC sophomore Darius Young encounters a crowd while shooting Feb. 24 vs. Lake Michigan College.

Women snatch 57-49 triumph against Lake Michigan College

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LCC’s Celia Ridsdale puts up a shot vs. Lake Michigan Feb. 24.

By Julie Newell Sports/Photo Editor The LCC women’s basketball team broke its four-game losing streak Feb. 24, winning 57-49 against Lake Michigan College at LCC. Before the game, LCC honored its sophomore athletes: Celia Ridsdale, Alaina McFarland, Tanaesha Daniels and Gracelyn Hull. “It was sophomore night so I think us four, that have been here for two years, we were really ready to come out, play together,” Ridsdale said. LCC Head Coach Layne Ingram commented on the sophomores’

achievements. “I think all of our sophomores played well,” Ingram said. “I think Celia Ridsdale had a great game. She leads us, she plays tough, she plays hard all the time and that’s obvious, she led us in scoring today.” Ridsdale scored 19 points to lead the Stars. “(We had) great communication when it came to defense,” Daniels said. “We talked a lot, moved around, passed the ball pretty good.” Freshman Abigail Koneval delivered six assists and Daniels grabbed seven rebounds for LCC.

“I’m just really proud of these kids, I love them very much,” Ingram said. “I’m glad that they chose LCC and I hope that it’s been a good experience for them, too.” The Stars ended their regular season on a low note, losing 72-40 at Mid Michigan College Feb. 26. The loss put the Stars’ overall record at 12-17 and at 6-12 in the MCCAA Western Conference. The Stars will compete in the NJCAA Region XII Division II Great Lakes West Women’s Tournament Tuesday, March 3 against Mid Michigan College in Grand Rapids.


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ATHLETE SPOTLIGHT

B-ball guard Ridsdale enjoys team bonding The Lookout Page Designer Bayelee Hodge recently spoke with women’s basketball player Celia Ridsdale. The Lansing Community College sophomore is majoring in Kinesiology. How long have you played basketball? “I have been playing since third grade” Who inspired you to play basketball? “My stepdad. My mom met him when I was 4 and then he just got me into playing basketball.” Who inspires you as a basketball player? “My dad and former teammates I played with. (They inspire me) just to be better, work harder and get better.” What struggles do you face as a college athlete? “Definitely how small I am. I work, too, so it’s

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kind of hard to juggle everything, but it’s also obviously going to benefit me in the long run.” What kind of person has basketball made you? “More motivated, definitely determined and I have my eye on the end of the tunnel all the time.” What do you consider the best part of playing basketball? “The people you meet, for sure.” What’s your favorite moment in your basketball career? “Bonding with my teammates. And the bus rides home are always hilarious.” What are your plans after LCC? “Right now it’s between (attending) Michigan State University and Grand Valley State University.”

Celia Ridsdale

— Julie’s jukes —

Contemplating the ‘favorite movie dilemma’ What is your favorite movie? If you are like me, this question gets answered with another question: What genre? I love movies from many different genres, so I have a serious issue with picking just one movie as my favorite. I love many movies for many different reasons. Here is a list of my favorite movies from my top five favorite genres: Number one is romance/romantic comedies. I am a hopeless romantic and love rom-coms such as “Ever After,” “While You Were Sleeping,” “You’ve Got Mail,” “My Big Fat Greek Wedding,” “Hitch” and “Crazy Rich Asians.”

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Romance movies have a way of warming my heart, and raising feelings of joy and hope inside me when I watch them. Number two is animated movies. I am a kid at heart. I grew up watching cartoons and animated movies. I am absolutely obsessed with all things Disney. The classic Disney princess movies like “Aladdin,” “Cinderella,”

“Beauty and the Beast,” “Mulan” and “Tangled” are just a few of my favorites. I also love movies from Pixar like “Toy Story,” “Monsters Inc.” and “The Incredibles.” I could talk for hours about Disney movies. Number three is action movies. The three staples of an action movie are explosions, fight scenes and car chases. I love franchises like Marvel’s Avengers, D.C. Universe, James Bond and Fast and Furious that make you want to watch them over and over again. Number four is sci-fi/fantasy. I grew up watching movies like “Star Wars,” “Star Trek,” and “Lord of the

Rings.” Now I have delved deep into the “Harry Potter” obsession and have found that I love all of these movies even more. I think this is because I am older and able to understand and appreciate them better. Number five is drama/thriller. Now I am not a fan of horror movies or scary movies, but I do like movies that are suspenseful, have a mystery to them and maybe a few jump scares. Movies like “A Quiet Place,” “Knives Out,” and “Nancy Drew” are more my cup of tea. This just scratches the surface of my movie obsession. Did I miss any movies that are iconic or must see? Let me know at newellj1@lcc.edu.

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‘True West’ shines in Black Box IN BRIEF Play focuses on dysfunctional relationship between brothers By Ali Williams A&E Editor Two brothers’ relationship is further destroyed by a job opportunity in the LCC Black Box Theatre play, “True West.” Performances were held Feb. 21, 22, 28 and 29. Written by Sam Shepherd and directed by LCC’s John Lennox, “True West” starred Daryth Lennox as Austin, Wyatt Wesley as Lee, Gabe Weeks as Saul Kimmer and Priscilla Raven as Mom. “True West” focuses on the deteriorating relationship of brothers Austin and Lee, while discovering a job opportunity from Weeks’ character. Actor Wyatt Wesley’s brother, Parker Wesley, attended the performance Feb. 21. “It’s a very down-to-Earth play,” Parker said. “They take into consideration some very important life events and they really dive deep into the characters.” Parker Wesley also explained how his brother’s role as Lee is different compared to the roles Wyatt has played in the past. “It’s a lot different than what he’s

Arts and Entertainment

Learning Circle Film Series set The Centre for Engaged Inclusion will host a screening of the 2014 film “Selma,” with a discussion at the end on Wednesday, March 4. The event starts at noon in the Gannon Building, room 2204. Admission to watch the film is free and open to the public. To register and learn more, visit https://www.lcc.edu/calendar/index. php?eID=2204.

‘Hotel on Marvin Gardens’ coming “A Hotel on Marvin Gardens” will be performed at Riverwalk Theatre’s Black Box Auditorium from March 12 to 22. The play is written by Nagle Jackson and directed by Mary K. Hodges Nees. To buy tickets and learn more about the upcoming show, visit https:// www.riverwalktheatre.com/ Photo by Julie Newell

Mom (played by Priscilla Raven) watches as Austin (Daryth Lennox) chokes his brother Lee (Wyatt Wesley).

used to,” Parker said. “He’s usually more of a comedic actor, the way that

Photo by Julie Newell

Lee (played by Wyatt Wesley) sits quietly as Austin (played by Daryth Lennox) drinks during “True West.”

he can kind of turn it around … and be very serious and also be such a different character than what I’m used to is actually really cool to see.” LCC sophomore Molly Sullivan participated in the play’s sound design and is currently in the studio four theatre class. She attended Friday’s performance to support Weeks. “It’s been really amazing seeing how far and how much they’ve been growing, these characters, and putting so much work in,” Sullivan said. Sullivan added that Weeks often played characters in a variety of genres; however, Kimmer is a bit different. “He does a little bit of everything,” Sullivan said. “This is definitely an interesting character.” The next LCC Performing Arts show will be “Middletown,” scheduled in the Dart Auditorium from March 20 to 29. Tickets will cost $10 for adults and $5 for students. To learn more about ticket pricing and the upcoming LCC play, “Middletown,” visit the website https:// www.lcc.edu/showinfo.

Creative poetry session March 20 LCC English Professors Barbara Clauer and Ravon Keith will lead a creative writing poetry session Thursday, March 20. The session starts at 10 a.m. in the Grand River Room, located in the Gannon Building. The poetry session is free and open to the public. The second half of this event starts at 2 p.m. in the same room. The topic of the activity follows the 2020 Black History Awareness theme of “African Americans and the Vote.” To learn more and register, visit https://www.lcc.edu/bha.

LCC’s first ‘Battle of the Bands’ set “Battle of the Rising Stars” will be LCC’s first “Battle of the Bands.” The competition will be held at Dart Auditorium on Saturday, April 4 at 7:30 p.m. Prizes for the bands include music store gift certificates, an on-air interview with LCC radio, future performance opportunities and a $500 LCC Music scholarship. For additional details about the competition, visit https://www.lcc.edu/ battle.


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Comedy show can cheer up Mondays By Chloe Gregg Staff Writer Although not obvious from the nondescript windowless building and simple sign, Mac’s Bar is all punk. Located at 2700 E. Michigan Ave., Mac’s Bar is open every day from 3 p.m. to 2 a.m. and is host to many fun events. One such event is the Mac’s Monday Comedy Night, hosted by Megan Cottington, Pat Sievert, Robert Jenkins and Dan Currie. There is no admission fee for the weekly show. “Comedy’s been going on at Mac’s for quite a while,” Dan Currie said. “I took over in 2012 and we changed the name to Mac’s Monday Comedy Night. We’re actually coming up on our eight-year anniversary. “Pat Sievert, Robert Jenkins and Megan Cottington all help me run the show, so there’s four of us. Usually with there being four Mondays in a month, we each take turn hosting. We

Photo by Chloe Gregg

Mac’s Bar at 2700 E. Michigan Ave. is the site for comedy night every Monday at 9 p.m.

bring in new comics every week and it’s been a lot of fun.” On a recent Monday evening, the crowd appeared pretty sparse early. But as it started getting closer to 9 p.m., when the comedy show starts, more people began to arrive until almost all of the tables and chairs in front of the stage were filled. Cottington, cohost of the show, said that a lot of the comics, including herself, use adult humor. “I’d say (my show) is blue comedy so it’s kind of dirty, kind of (racy).” Mac’s Monday Comedy Night is an R-rated show and the bar is not family friendly. New comics EJ Watson and Rachael Strother were both hilariously dirty, while relatable and up to speed on pop culture. The crowd seemed to enjoy their stories and humor. Guests need to be at least 18 to attend the comedy shows. For more information, call Mac’s at (517) 484-6795.

Riverwalk reveals lineup By Ali Williams A&E Editor A roaring ‘20s-themed soiree kicked off Lansing Riverwalk Theatre’s 32nd season as the 2020-21 lineup was announced. The event started at 7 p.m. with desserts and a chance to talk to members of the Riverwalk Theatre in the lobby. Attendees were encouraged to dress up in roaring ‘20s-themed outfits for the reveal. Kristine Meyer, who has worked at the Riverwalk Theatre for 10 years, designs the costumes for plays and musicals. “I’m here to find out what next season is so I can decide which shows I’d like to work on,” Meyer, 66, said. “I’m currently working on ‘(Hotel on) Marvin Gardens’ and ‘Shrek.’” Taylor Lucas-Redding, a Western Michigan University student, was at the soiree to celebrate with her mother. “My mom actually works for the theatre, so she invited me out to go celebrate with them and to see, like, what shows are coming up,” Lucas-Redding, 22, said. From 7:30 to 8:30, the 2020-21 season show list was revealed. The next season’s shows are, in order: * “Once on This Island,” directed by Janell Hall;

* “The Revolutionist,” directed by Tom Ferris; * “Admissions,” directed by Bob Robinson; * “Nine,” directed by Kameron Going; * “Holiday Cabaret,” directed by Meg Woolsey; * “Dead Man’s Cell Phone,” directed by Dale Wayne Williams; *“Fences,” directed by Vanessa Sanders; * “Disenchanted,” directed by Joanna Poynter; * “Art,” directed by Scott Pohl; * “Sweeney Todd,” directed by George Popovich. During the reveal, the directors or Riverwalk Theatre representatives spoke about each show they are involved in. Many discussed when auditions will be held, information about the show, or ways to get the audience engaged. There was also a raffle during the reveal, with two attendees winning season tickets for next year’s shows. Director Hall of “Once on This Island” was the first to speak during the event. He spoke about the musical and some of her favorite parts of it. “I love that it has elements of West African and Caribbean culture,” Hall said. Season 31 is almost over, with only four shows left. To learn more about the remaining shows, visit https://www.riverwalktheatre.com.

Photo by Ali Williams

Director Janell Hall leads a sing-along during her speech at Riverwalk Theatre Feb. 22.


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reviews

Netflix fails with fashion contest show By Ali Williams A&E Editor Fashion expert Tan France, from Netflix’s “Queer Eye,” and model and designer Alexa Chung are the hosts for Netflix’s new fashion competition show, “Next in Fashion.” The show first aired on Netflix Jan. 29, 2020, with 10 episodes available. The show follows 18 designers who have stylized many celebrities, from the likes of Beyoncé to Yara Shahidi. Similar to Bravo’s “Project Runway,” the designers can win a grand prize.

The winner of “Next in Fashion” earns a $250,000 prize and can debut a clothing collection with luxury fashion retailer, Net-a-Porter. I love watching fashion shows because I enjoy seeing all of the different designs the contestants make. However, “Next in Fashion” has many downfalls that almost ruined the show for me. First, every round of the competition, besides the last two, are competed in by pairs. Many amazing designers are sent home because their teammate is, essentially, dead weight.

One teammate refused to help a partner and lost the first competition. Another made her partner use her horrible design and ended up leaving the show. Another didn’t even know how to sew despite being a designer for years. Watching great designers leave because their partners refuse to acknowledge they are teammates working toward the same goal is exhausting, especially when it is obvious that each competition would have them working in pairs almost the entire show. Another problem with Netflix’s “Next

in Fashion” is that it truly does not give any of the contestants enough time to create their outfits. Each competition is only two days long, even if they are creating more than one look. The designers are not able to show off their talent because of the limited time they are given. I loved watching France and Chung host the show and watch each contestant compete, but “Next in Fashion” is rushed and gets rid of talented designers too fast, due mainly to the pair system.

‘Detroit Frankie’s’ a hidden pizza gem in Lansing By Chloe Gregg Staff Writer Nestled in the back of a parking lot behind an apartment building resides Frankie, a tent, and his wood fire brick oven. Detroit Frankie’s Wood Fired Brick Oven is located at 921 N. Washington Ave., about half a mile from LCC. It is open Wednesdays and Thursdays from 4 to 8 p.m. and Fridays from 3 to 8 p.m. Frankie serves fresh gourmet pizza that could rival the pizza seen and hungered over by millions on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. On a recent Wednesday evening, my boyfriend and I arrived at Detroit Frank-

ie’s extremely hungry. We ordered a large Hawaiian pizza from the specialty menu and a cheese square, totaling $27. Frankie didn’t have any pineapples that night, but he was very accommodating and we ended up getting a cross between Hawaiian and Chicken Bacon Ranch. We left the place for a few minutes. When we came back, we saw our pizza finish cooking in the oven. We watched as Frankie packed it away in his own personalized pizza boxes before sending us on our way. Right in the parking lot, I propped my phone on the dash and my boyfriend

Photo by Chloe Gregg

Business owner Frankie cooks up some pizza pies.

and I sat and watched Santa Clarita Diet on Netflix, all cuddled up while we tore into our pizza and cheese bread. And when I say tore into, I really mean it.

There was nothing left and there had only been two of us. Detroit Frankie’s Wood Fired Brick Oven had “the most GOATed pizza” according to my boyfriend, and I completely agree. The dough is incredibly soft and delicious anywhere you bite. The ingredients are of high quality, too, with large chunks of fresh chicken and ham and crispy bacon. I cannot stress enough how good this pizza is. If I had to pick one place out of everywhere I’ve recommended this school year, it’s Detroit Frankie’s. You can try it for yourself and call to place an order at 517-449-2130.

Sequel for ‘To All the Boys’ proves to be adorable By Maddy Warren Staff Writer Lara Jean Covey (played by Lana Condor) and friends are back for more cheesy, yet relatable, drama and adventures in “To All the Boys: P.S. I Still Love You,” this highly anticipated Netflix sequel. In the second movie of the trilogy by author Jenny Han, Lara Jean, who is now in 11th grade, is well into her relationship with her first boyfriend, Peter Kavinsky (played by Noah Centineo). With college application time quickly approaching, the junior class

is required to sign up with different organizations for mandatory volunteer hours. After signing up for the same retirement center her older sister volunteered at, Lara Jean discovers that an old friend from middle school, John Ambrose McClaren (played by Jordan Fisher) is volunteering there as well. In the first movie of the trilogy Lara Jean’s younger sister, Kitty, sent out the five love letters she wrote to her childhood crushes. John Ambrose McClaren was the last recipient of the letters. After reconnecting with John Am-

brose, Lara Jean’s relationship with Peter becomes estranged. The film does an exquisite job exploring plot lines that the audience can relate to, including self and relationship insecurities, strained friendships and divorce. A few new characters are introduced in the second movie, besides John Ambrose. These include the hilarious elderly women from Belleview Retirement Home, known simply as Stormy; and the Song-Covey’s sweet neighbor, Trina Rothschild. Although their roles are smaller, both women’s contributions are impactful

to the plot. After much angst and a time capsule party in a treehouse with Lara Jean and friends, the issues are resolved and the sequel wraps up perfectly. I watched the first movie over a year ago and thought it was adorable. As an adamant lover of all things rom-com, it was the perfect coming-of-age chick flick. I was eager when I heard the sequel was coming out, but after watching the trailer I was convinced I wouldn’t like it as much as the first one. However, I was pleasantly mistaken. “To All the Boys: P.S. I Still Love You” can be streamed on Netflix.


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march 2 - 15, 2020 www.lcc.edu/lookout — Stocken speaks —

Fashion: a lifelong passion for this girl In elementary school, I would wear a tiara to class as a headband; I would tell my peers that my mom made me do it. In reality, my accessories, mismatched patterns and the lime green laces in my purple Converse shoes were all my own fashion trends. When I was young, I’m sure I wasn’t curating outfits mirrored off of models on the runway or what I saw my favorite celebrities wearing. To me, fashion has always been self-expression and a form of armor. I cloak myself in layers of fabric to enhance my beauty and build my confidence outwardly.

Shauna Stocken editor in chief

stockens@lcc.edu

From childhood to now, I have remained true to myself and my wild sense of style. As an artist, I’m always looking for a way to make life more creative and fun; I spend a lot of time thinking about the following concept:

What is life? Simply put, life is time and space. I decorate and fill the space and time with music and art. To me, fashion is powerful and is the most influential art there is. No one puts this better than “Gossip Girls” character Blare Waldorf: “It’s movement, design and architecture all in one. It shows the world who we are and who we’d like to be.” When political candidates walk out on stage or celebrities strut down the red carpet, I absolutely want to know what designer they’re wearing. If you are rolling your eyes at my last statement, let me tell you why you should

care, too. Fashion sets the tone for celebrations and is the language that tells us about individuals and the current events in society, culture and history. My closet is a rainbow of pieces collected over the past decade; some are new, but many pieces have been gently worn by others, which is what I prefer. When textile clothing hits landfills, chemicals from the clothing’s dye hurts the environment. It doesn’t have to cost a fortune, nor do I have to hurt the planet with my passion for fashion.

— Robin’s Rant —

Considering nonviolence as political philosophy Some of the greatest injustices in human history have been overcome by ordinary people who practiced the principles of nonviolence even when they were subjected to violence. British rule in India, de facto segregation in the United States and communist control in the old Czechoslovakia are a few examples of how nonviolence brought awareness to people’s struggle and an eventual end to oppression. As political philosophy, nonviolence has theological origins in most of the world’s major religions. Buddhism, Hinduism and Jainism all include doctrines proclaiming that to harm other living

things only brings about spiritual destruction to the perpetuator. Christians cite various passages throughout the Gospels as examples of Christ’s usage of peace and all-encompassing love throughout his earthly ministry. Even non-religious leaders have stressed that nonviolence is the only humanistic way to confront political persecution. Yet history is filled with leaders and movements that did not adhere to the teachings of nonviolence. Many who were frustrated with the stratification and hopelessness in their societies turned to armed revolution or other methods of rebellion. I do not pretend it was easy for young

Robin Morales Associate editor

moraler4@lcc.edu

Black men to hold their fists when Whites called them an assortment of vulgarities as they sat-in on segregated lunch counters in the 1960s. Nor do I assume it was easy for migrant workers in Mexico to pray for the very soldiers pointing rifles at their chests in the 1920s. Their resilience is

a testament to the human spirit and something to strive for. The success of nonviolent movements can be attributed to the sense of solidarity they create. A movement that uses violence, even if supposedly justified, can never obtain the same level of popular support that a nonviolent movement can. In fact, violence is one of the very tools of propaganda that governments have used to spread fear and distrust among populations. Isn’t it something of an irony that so many military crusades for peace have brought about nothing except for violence, death and continuous disaccord?

— Kari in the city —

My general mantra for life: work hard, play harder We live in a consumerist world, we all understand this. Common work has, in my opinion, lost its contribution to the supposed “American Dream,” and has now become a mere term for survival. As I gain in experiences, from work and classes, to trips and conversations with others, I have found a truth for myself: work hard to survive, if you must — but play harder, to live. Because at the end of the day, happiness is a choice. As I go through those mentioned experiences, and have found this “truth” of mine, it has led to a life that forces me to live. This lifestyle doesn’t always ensure happiness and ease. For example, I moved from Lansing in

Kari eastway Staff Writer

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January, to begin renting my first home with my partner in a small northern Michigan town. Our new place is two and a half hours away from campus. Knowing I still had three more classes to complete at LCC, I was still determined to make the move, back to my home roots and onto a new adventure.

I now take those three classes online, while ommuting to LCC two times a month to work at The Lookout and complete the rest of the job remotely. I also work two other jobs up north. While my daily schedule is full, and after most long weeks I am exhausted, I am also full of happiness. My daily adventures consist of my partner and two dogs, living in a rustic, cozy cabin, and only a mile away from a river, along with a dozen trailheads ready to be explored. I understand that it may have been easier to stay in the area that had my college on site, and to work at one of my favorite jobs consistently. But I also recognized the need for change and my growing home sickness

for my small town, family and nature. I chose to make a decision based on emotions and my own desire to be happy. Working multiple jobs and dedicating much of my time to fulfill my role as a hard and reliable worker is a commitment, but I refuse to let it consume me. Being a full-time student alongside this is also a commitment, as most of you reading this can relate, but I try to focus on the larger picture. This is the picture that has us receiving our degrees, hopefully working in degree-associated careers, and loving the life that we worked hard to get and deserve to live in. I’ll always recognize the importance of work, with the understanding to “play” and live just as much.


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Drain your savings this spring break The whirlwind of negativity, from the coronavirus, WWIII Twitter rumors and heart-wrenching celebrity deaths has left The Lookout staff distraught and in desperate need of a break. Taking place March 9 through 15 (though let’s be honest: you’ve probably been desperately waiting for these holy dates since the start of the semester), spring break is that wonderful week wherein students get just comfortable enough at the end, to return to school unprepared for the slow trudge toward finals.

Some of us have been saving up for months, just to watch hundreds of dollars evaporate in a single week far, far away from our pot-hole-ridden state. The truth is, some of us seek a little Vitamin D, which has been long deficient in Michigan. Those of us who are acquainted with “disposable income” flee to Florida, which has lots of Vitamin D as well as Mickey Mouse, a definite bonus. Make sure to visit the Sunshine State before global warming puts Cinderella’s castle underwater! Whether you’re too poor to leave, or choosing to

What are your spring break plans? Shauna Stocken

editor in Chief

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“Wedding planning”

Robin Morales

Associate editor

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“Taking care of mental health”

Ali Williams

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“Spending time with friends”

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chill at home, we can all benefit from some time away from D2L notifications to de-stress and recharge. Those of us yearning to get away sometimes concoct elaborate plans about how “productive” we’ll be to deflect these uncomfortable feelings. The Lookout staff encourages students to repress their “broke-ness” and take fulfilling day trips away from campus to do something they can post on their award-winning Snapchat stories. From all of us at The Lookout, happy spring tidings and may The Force be with you.

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“Going to NYC with my boo”

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“Going to Orlando with my mom”

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Job seekers connect with employers About 600 attend annual job fair

The Lansing Community College west campus was filled with employers and job seekers Thursday, Feb. 20 during the college’s annual job and intern fair.

Photos and story by Editor in Chief Shauna Stocken

The Lansing Lugnuts were represented at LCC’s job fair for the first time this year. Pictured, from left, assisting a booth guest, are Cooley Law School Stadium employees Paul Kuhna, April Landon, Angela Sees, Jake Becziewict and Terry Alapert.

LCC employees Anita Evans and Angie Butterwick assist Need Kulkarni, a Lansing resident who is seeking a full-time position in the IT field.

In the spirit of LCC’s, “Start here. Get there” motto, the college hosted its annual west campus job and intern fair Feb. 20. The two-hour event welcomed 120 representatives from Lansing-area businesses looking to recruit and hire new employees. “We filled all of our booths much earlier than we did in the past,” said LCC Internship Development Manager Becca Sowa. “But in terms of preregistration for students and job seekers, we are kind of on pace as previous years.” According to Sowa, the free event welcomed approximately 600 job seekers who preregistered for this year’s event. “For students, we want to connect them to different employment opportunities, whether they are graduating, getting internships, or if they’re alumni and making a career change,” Sowa said. LCC freshman and Potterville High School senior Ethan Kubasczyk said he heard about the event from his parents. He said he came to investigate the fair, looking for a position in law enforcement. “My parents are like super active with how I should be in high school; like I should be automatically looking for a full-time job,” Kubasczyk said. “Instead, I’m looking for something small that I can do throughout the summer and make some money.” Representatives from Cooley Law School Stadium attended the job fair seeking game-day operations employees for Lansing Lugnuts games and other events. “This is my first year and it looks like a great opportunity to meet a lot of people and bring them out to the stadium,” said Angela Sees, director of human resources and business operation for the ballpark. “The baseball stadium being in the middle of Lansing, I think, is a good representation of being right in the heart of Lansing,” Sees said. “It’s a great opportunity for people. It’s a good opportunity for high schoolers to come out and have their first job.”


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