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Ebay buyers and online buyers MUST read before you get poor. This book is not for sale. Share to your friends as much as you can to protect them from this scary world.
Your money is still your money.
DO NOT ever send any payments through WESTERN UNION on any websites, not only Ebay. This is the main point that the fake sellers will get your money easily, then gone with the wind.
This book is not created to attack WESTERN UNION but to warn poor buyers. I dont know if there are any other payment systems like Western Union. If so, be careful.
The reasons why not to pay by WU are: 1. You cannot track anything with the payment. The sellers will just ask you the MTCN (reference number) and your full name. Thatʼs all. After the fake sellers got your money, they will be just gone in the wind. NOT CONTACT WITH YOU ANYMORE. Call the police wonʼt solve this problem, this world is ridiculous. 2. The better way to use is the system that you can trust such as Paypal (even though some people also got problems with them). Here are some people who is disappointed with Paypal [ http://www.aboutpaypal.org/ http://www.paypalwarning.com/ http://www.screw-paypal.com/index.html This article is not to advertise Paypal but at least it is just a better way, not the best way. At least you are not sending cash to the fake sellers.
What you MUST notice are (Everything you do, it needs to end up with WESTERN UNION anyway). 1. The sellers will try to setup their own private transaction with you in any forms. It could be very formal document as well to make you believe that it was really from Ebay (I will use Ebay as the example here.) THEY WILL TRY TO FORCE TO YOU PAY THROUGH WESTERN UNION ANYWAY. Watch out!!!! 2. They will contact you by the private 3. They might have a fake
email address, not by Ebay contact seller system.
tracking number for your package to make you believe that they are ready for
shipping your package.They can setup the reservation on any postage websites such as UPS, FedEX and you also can really track it. ( Example will be shown) 4. In case you buy your stuffs on Ebay, they might send you both
fake Ebay e-mail and fake Paypal e-
mail ( you wonʼt believe how fake they can do, they can even have something like you got email from service@paypal.com, examples attached) that tell that you cannot send the payment to them through Paypal at that time cos bla bla bla (they just bullshit) so you might need to send them the payments by WESTERN UNION instead. 5. The fake sellers can get your email from somewhere you dont know (I believe that they can get into Ebay system while you are doing a transaction with your real seller) and will send you a very formal mail look to you to make you believe that they are real during the transaction of you and the real seller. If this really happens to you, use the Ebay function “ Contact a seller” to make sure again that they really did that. Donʼt send to personal email.
6. As stated in no.4, they might also claim themselves that they are the sellers and they have some problems that cannot get the money through Paypal so you need to send them money through WESTERN UNION instead. Same thing, end up with WESTERN UNIONIf you already mistakenly paid the fake sellers, that means you will pay double. The transaction of you and the real seller is still going on. You will get your own stuff BUT will be charged by Paypal from the real sellers again. And you cannot get the first amount of cash back from Paypal cos you did that out of their system, thatʼs what Paypal will tell you. BUT in any way, do not ever send a payment through WESTERN UNION even though they are super Power Sellers or real sellers, they are still strangers to you. 7. Ebay and Paypal never recommend the buyers to send their payments through WESTERN UNION
Tips Ensuring that emails are really from PayPal: * Check the greeting. We always address you by your first and last name, or the business name on your PayPal account. * Before clicking a link in an email, put your cursor over the link and look at the web address. If it doesn't start with https://www.paypal.com, don't click it. * See if the email asks for personal information. A PayPal email will never ask you for any of the following: o Bank account numbers o Debit and credit card numbers o Driver's license number o Email addresses o Your full name Check for attachments. We will never send an attachment or software updates to install on your computer. Preventing spoof and phishing: Spoof and phishing are illegal methods to collect personal and financial information by using fake emails, websites, and phone calls. With stolen information, criminals could commit credit card fraud and engage in other illegal activities. Phishing emails attempt to steal your identity by tricking you into revealing your password or other personal or financial information. These emails often link to websites that try to get you to enter credit card numbers, Social Security numbers, or account passwords. If you think you've received a fraudulent email, forward the email to spoof@paypal.com and then delete it from your mailbox. To learn more about online safety, click "Security Center" on any PayPal webpage.
Fake Ebay email (This is the email that interrupts the Ebay&Paypal system while you are doing a transaction with your real seller. This might happen before or after you pay by Paypal.) it could be in any other looks but the purpose is to make you pay through WESTERN UNION)
This will be real Ebay seller始s username that will make this mail was from him or her.
Fake seller始s name. This guy wont have the same name of the real seller.
Fake Paypal email This is the email that will come alone with Ebay fake one to lie you that transfer by
WESTERN
UNION) is really safe. It could be in any other looks but the purpose is to make you pay through WESTERN UNION)
They can even fake the email address where it was from.
Fake seller始s email. (just one example) that the sellers will use to contact with you privately.
You wont be credited back AT ALL!!!
Fake Paypal email (continued)
This will suck your money.
This will make you believe that it始s real, but it is not.
Fake Ebay listings This is the snapshot that i got while the fake seller had a chance to attack Ebay Power seller始s account and he spent a short period to ask the buyers to contact directly to his private email, NOT use the contact seller function on Ebay. He used many expensive stuffs to attract people to buy at that price but the problem is he is too stupid to put same camera model with different options but same price. What a good deal!!! OMG so awesome, dont believe that, it is not true at all.
Almost everything he sold was really expensive and most of them are more than EUR1,000 but he asked the buyer to pay him only that to get those stuffs. I believe that many people were cheated from these listings. He said that he didnt sell those items through bidding, the buyers need to contact him directly to reserve them. I believe that this guy knows something about expensive bicycles, cameras, and music instruments.
Leica M8 with 90mm f2.8 tele-Elmarit and 28mm ultron - eBay (item 110432181565 end time Sep-07-09 12:43:05 PDT)
9/6/09 10:54 PM
Type: Other Optical Zoom: None Brand: Leica Product Line: Leica Memory Card Format: MultiMediaCard Model: M8 Battery Type: 1 x Li-ion rechargeable battery - 1900 mAh ( included ) Resolution (Megapixels): 10.3 Megapixels Manufacturer Part Number: Multiple Bundled Items: Battery Charger, Extra Battery, Lens, Neck Strap
This is a great starter system for pros or amateurs that want to get into shooting a real rangefinder with the finest camera system ever made for reportage and photojournalism. The Leica is small, lightweight, unobtrusive, and makes amazing images. Most people think it's p&s when you're shooting it. This is a black body M8 with 4 batteries, AC charger (with all the European connector plugs), comes with 90mm f/2.8 tele-elmarit lens with it's correct lens shade and b+w IR filter, also with a 28mm f/1.9 Ultron Voigtlander lens with it's proper lens shade, rear cap, and correct IR filter for the M8. So, if you win this auction, you get EVERYTHING you need to start shooting photos (no SD card included though). The 35 and 90 focal lengths have long been a favorite of many rangefinder shooters. M8's have a 1.3x crop factor so the 28mm lens becomes a 36.4mm f/1.9 and the 90mm reaches all the way out to 117mm f/2.8!!! A nice set of lenses for PJ and candid portraiture. This camera can even be set to shoot in b&w and the images are beautiful and very sharp. So, M8 in black, three batts, charger, two lenses, 2 IR filters, one lens rear cap, one body cap, box on the M8 and instructions with CD's, etc..
bullshit
Hello! Stranger
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Leica M8 with 90mm f2.8 tele-Elmarit and 28mm ultron - eBay (item 110432181565 end time Sep-07-09 12:43:05 PDT)
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Other listings from the fake sellers at the same price of EUR 1,000. (Ebay took a while to remove all of these listings or the fake sellers did that. Im not sure.)
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These are some items that the fake seller use a short period to create and put on the list. Look at those items and time left, really nice huh? Think how much this guy can earn from this cheating. He won始t spend much time on Ebay cos he will be caught easily. Do
quick and Leave quick. The rest of
the transaction will be continued through his private email. Anything you like to buy here? Stop thinking about that. Be careful.
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Very Rare Greg Harrison custom made goalie mask
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PARELLI NATURAL PERFORMER SADDLE 16.5
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I tried to contact the seller for one item which is this.
This is what I got from him.
The deal will be made through an eBay program which will protect both of us. If you are ready for the deal let me know your full name and shipping address and i'll start the deal with eBay . Regards Then I gave him what he wanted. They he replied back. OK, Today i am will be ready for the shipping and email you the track # from fedex I've started the transaction with ebay. email me as soon as you receive the purchase confirmation from ebay. Regards Hello I`ve made the reservations at Fedex Did you got the eBay Invoice? please get back to me as i made the shipping arrangements , Here you have the Fedex Tracking Number : 796923273090 I sent it to this address : Full name: -------------Address: ---------------As you saw i issued the eBay Invoice , now please go at Western Union Office and complete the payment Let me know
Fake Ebay invoice. All of them is just a bull shit.
Now let始s try to track the fake package.
This will be just your city, no detailed address.
These are all I can do to help you guys to buy stuffs online more safely and will not regret later. Do not let very good price with the great items attract you in a short moment cos it will make you sad for longer. Again, do not make any payments through Western Union or any transfer money system that you cannot track the payment on any websites including big ones cos those are the great places for the fake sellers to hack and get connected with you.
Western Union is a good money transfer system if you use it in the right way at the place with the right person, NOT STRANGERS. Good Luck.