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Ian Quinlan who stars in the new Mark Miller Jupiter's legacy as Hutch now streaming on Netflix catches up with us for our new podcast and video series over zoom. The following is an excerpt from our full interview.
How did you get started as an actor in the city?
IQ: I’m a native New Yorker and I started acting really young around like five. I was doing commercials. My mom tells the story that she used to walk by my room and she would hear all these voices coming from inside. She opened the door and it would just be me and like a Calvin and Hobbes kinda towel cape with like my action figures, all lined up in some sort of battle sequence. I'd be like, shut the door. I started doing Music of the Heart as a kid with Meryl Streep cause I also played violin. Then I did the Lion King on Broadway for a year. It was a blast being a kid in New York getting to leave school early on a Wednesday to be on Broadway was pretty cool. I decided I really had a passion for it in high school doing plays and stuff. I actually went to Fordham University for acting and directing and I got out of school and I'm just doing it.
Let’s jump into the Superhero genre. I know you have experience with being in Gotham.
IQ: I love Batman. I'm a huge Batman fan. I love all the villains of Batman. I love the story of Batman. I love his whole narrative. So that was really cool when I used to go out for the nerdy guy who never gets the girl that was like my type. Yeah.
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It was like total door, comedy, nut, job, whatever. And then I really wanted to try something different. And when Gotham came around, I called my agent and I said, Hey, there’s this part I want. I know I'm not going to get it. I know. I’m not what they're looking for, but can you just ask them if I can just show them what I can do and they granted me an audition. So then I came in and I showed a darker side of what I could do. And that's when they brought me in later on for Carl Pinkney, the officer. So we're learning about Jim Gordon and all of a sudden in this corrupt town and it's such a wacky universe.
Is that something that you feel like being in Gotham and being in that role, um, paved the way for you to play Hutch and Jupiter's legacy?
IQ: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It was like, as soon as that, as soon as I booked Gotham, I started booking a lot of soldier roles. I think that's the kind of thing that happens in our industry. Like actors, we see, like when you first meet an actor, people kind of tend to pigeonhole or like say, oh, you're really good at this. We have to constantly show different sides and ask for a chance to show something new so we can actually put that on a person's radar. I think that definitely paved the way for Hutch. I really, really liked him a lot. I think there's a lot we have in common though, maybe not in terms of implementation, you know, I think this guy is really struggling. I would say he's fighting against systems of oppression really. you know? Kind of an antiquated bureaucracy. The white side of the family, American dream 2.5 kids, two income families. Black side is like, there's a lot of people who have made a lot of themselves. However, there was a lot of unnecessary struggle that they had to go through. And I think that's something that Hutch kind of sees, like you have these superheroes who have lived for over a hundred years, who even before they got their powers were billionaires, you know? I mean, have they ever really known a struggle? And what do they know about every man's experience.
Can you talk a little bit more about that romantic side to Hutch’s story?
IQ: Totally. Mark Miller likes to say that Romeo and Juliet it's the son of the world's greatest super villain falling in love with the daughter of the world's greatest superhero. I still have a little bit of Sidney, Nancy. I think that there's this beautiful love story that's happening, where you meet these two people who are trying to break out of their identities that people slapped on them. She doesn't want to follow in her father's footsteps and Hutch barely knows his father and both kind of envy the other side or resent the other side. And then they kind of meet each other and they see, oh, like the grass is not greener.
There's a moment that you kind of appear in an apartment space and interrupt something. I was like, wow! This is not your PG comic book show. How would you describe it to someone who might be skeptical about the series?
IQ: So you compared it to the boys earlier. And I think I love The Boys and I really enjoy what they're doing from their angle. I think it's a really interesting take on what if superheroes were actually like sociopaths and psychopaths and, you know, uncontrollable madmen. I feel like our show is a little similar where we're seeing flawed heroes. We're seeing human beings who are trying to be good and no body's trying to do their best. And you see these heroes who fail many times and you see them not always being the perfect role model or the perfect citizen. They have to battle their own demons, darkness and their own shadows. And I think that's really interesting too. You know, I think that's like such a close look at what happens when the hero has to go home like they're really just a person.
How are you processing things from the pandemic and finding ways to move forward?
IQ: There’s these moments of bliss. Like you get on a good day. Like it's like, yeah, it's really important to take those moments and to really enjoy them as fully as possible. Cause you really don't know when the next one is coming. So during COVID I picked up some cooking and skateboarding. I started surfing in Rockaway and then a couple of friends of mine and I, we were like, do you have the time? I was like I got the time! We went to Hawaii for a month.
How would you describe your personal style?
IQ: I've gotten into skate culture, so like a little more grungy, like more shredded jeans, a lot more vans are in my closet now. Been wearing a lot more like, All Saints and like ripping some stuff up, like ripping off collars and things and sleeves. I love a good coat that can last forever. You know what I'll tell you. I never I had never worn Gucci before until the photo shoot. And that was like, oh wow, I get it. I get it. It's like, I finally put it on. And I was like, oh yeah, yeah. I'm like, this is like, I feel like Cristiano Ronaldo.
Words to live by?
What are you up to right now? Are you in between projects, anything else in the works?
IQ: Well, first of all, I'm definitely riding the high of Jupiter’s Legacy, you know, I wrapped shooting in November, 2019, so I've been just waiting for this to come out. So these past few weeks have been super surreal and super great and I’m enjoying every second of it so that we can finally share it with the world. So right now I'm in between projects, for sure. Like waiting to hear about season two. I've been doing a lot of writing, like during COVID I started writing a lot. I've been writing a couple of things. I actually got good at skateboarding.
IQ: You don't know what you don't know. I find that very true. And I like to use that whenever I walk into a new room or meet new people. We are so quick to sort of try to categorize or define a person. Human beings are so beautiful in their individuality.
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We caught up with actor Billy Magnussen following our cover shoot in Brooklyn, NY on the heels of the his new series Made for Love for HBO Max. We talked more about his character Byron Gogol, his current project building a house with his family in Georgia, we talk fashion, his upcoming James Bond appearance and more. Here is part of our conversation.
Yesterday’s shoot was awesome. Honestly, it was really inspiring. Just sort of watching your personality come out.
BM: That’s how I feel with the acting stuff. It's like organized chaos. You know what the job is, you prepare as much as you can and then you just let it go. It's all you can do. Cause I don't know what I'm doing. I have no clue right now. The more it's true, the more you get older and more knowledgeable, you become, it's like the less I know. And like you do, you slowly just have to be present more and more and just take life as it is. And all you can control is how you react to it.
state of job interviews, right? That has to create a lot of thick skin.
BM: It’s a game of being, getting told no over and over again. And how thick your skin is to keep trudging ahead, because with a hundred no's, it just takes that one yes. And that's in the right thing will, will show up. It does, it does wear you down over and over and still, I still get no's all the time, you know, but I do have to think my entire career, or, you know, too. The Chris's, the Skarsgård's and the Hemsworth brothers all for passing on projects.
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And that's how my career has happened.
You strike me as someone who's very like easy going and go with the flow. Is that you're, is that natural for you or is that, is that something you've had to learn with age?
BM: Uh, I would say I'm less easy going in all that. Now when I was young, I was like, whatever, let fly. And then like, once you become more of a man, I don't know your empathy has to grow. And like, they're used to be a time where I thought my shit didn't stink and. You know, I was not selfish, but you know, very, uh, self, self centered, I guess. And then like, as I've grown and from wonderful relationships I've had with people, like, you know, you really grow to empathize and like welcome more and more people into your life because we all don't know what we're doing. And no, one's, uh, no, one's the villain in their story.
Well, speaking of, Made for Love is a really interesting series. You play the character of Byron Gogel, which I think it's funny. Cause it sounds so close to Google and I want to talk about like, How they dress you. I would love to kind of talk to you about how Byron was created.
BM: It all comes down to our wardrobe designer, Jen. She was unbelievable and hours and hours of meeting and like going over the wardrobe fittings and the tailoring. Because I think it actually plays a huge part of the world of the hub that everything is slick and sleek. Cause like think of all the modern technology and now it's all sleek and whatever it has to be representative of him and the way he views the world, you know, A guy that wants to control everything. Everything had code. Everything has a thing, A, B, C... So it's a pattern. I think the wardrobe really reflects that this color palette matches this. Everyone wears these colors and then you get into the real world and you realize it's all chaos and you can't control it. Just like a relationship. You could try to, you know, say I plan on. One year meeting the person two years, we get married three years I want a baby. It doesn't work that way. And even if every time you try, it's going to just implode on itself. I think. Yeah. Right? Shit gets weird.
There’s kind of like a sci-fi element to it mixed with Silicon valley. Yeah. It's very scary. I don't think we're that far away for something like this.
BM: You have a watch on your wrist. It tells you what to do, have you ever seen that with the apple watches? I do want to say Christina Lee and, Alissa nutting, what they did with Made for Love, which is so brilliant, they use that tool of like the tech and the sci-fi and the dark comedy to actually open up a conversation about relationships. Yes, it's extreme circumstances and it's heightened like that. But at the end of the day, you're watching, these people just trying to connect with each other and how they miss each other constantly.
I just thought, even for you, as an actor, getting to play this kind of you know, outlandish character, You really had some special moments in that last episode in the diner, that's all I'm going to say. You went layers deeper than maybe we saw in Byron throughout this series.
BM: I’ve done this in other interviews or talks about it, but this toxic masculinity and that a lot of what we do is just a front because of this world we're taught and like the emotions that we all have, we have them, but why do we suppress it or hide them? Or what are we actually scared of by sharing them? I really don't know the answer, but in like, it's a question. I catch myself all the time. Why, why, why are you hiding right now? Why are you. You know, protecting something that, you know, would probably be more, it would be better let out. I grew up in a place where there was toxic masculinity, and you're trained to not feel emotions in the fucking locker room with the dudes you know, they're picking on you or whatever, and you're, you’re thrown into that shit.
Even if you go back to the heart of Byron, like you, as you see his character unfold and made for love, like he just wants to be accepted and be loved. And he obviously has trauma from his, you know, from growing up and he has this connection. I think that's kind of what we all want is that connection.
BM: Yeah. The show we get tired of putting on the fake show and that personality or that some point it always cracks.
What do you want your friends and family and maybe people in your life that really matter to you? What do you want them to take away from this project?
BM: I go back to that. Like they kind of see themselves and how they can see themselves in the project and be like, oh, I do these little things of like little things of trying to control and control someone else or acceptance of someone else. And I just want them to put themselves in check and be like, oh, wow. You know, again, I want him to have a good time laugh and escape from the world a little bit, but like under it all, it's. You know, it's a conversation about what it is to be in a relationship and, what is the right distance and how deep can you be involved and what is really accepting or opening up and like being a partner. It’s on to those like entertaining and fun and just like, God, I want to see some more. And then the other thing is just take a second and watch it and be like, holy shit. I do that. That would be my goal that the ending of the series, like the season I'm like, damn, I relate to that so much.
Switching gears let's talk fashion with your character.
BM: The glasses actually. I thought it was very important for them to have those classes. There was this guy I saw once and I met him and I was like that, guy's the biggest douche bag I know, uh, you know, and he had glasses like that. So that's partly why I picked him, but what it does for me, there's always a barrier between him and the world. Even if you can't directly in the eye. Yeah. And there's still something blocking it. There's a
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and he had glasses like that. So that's partly why I picked him, but what it does for me, there's always a barrier between him and the world. Even if you can't directly in the eye. Yeah. And there's still something blocking it. There's a guard. There's always a guard that he's having in front of him. And that's why I chose the glasses. So only certain times is he taking it off like the diner scene, it was just the guy that's always trying to protect himself from the world. The wardrobe designer, Jen. I love the high waist outfits too.
I always wonder if actors have a spare room, like a game room or something, and you like have like one outfit from each project or character you played.
BM: No, but there's like little things I kept from each character. Like a necklace here. I got it. Prince Andrew's had this giant ring that he had, so I kept that.
So tell us more about this project in Georgia?
BM: I had finished a project in LA. I kind of got stuck in LA during the COVID time project. Finally, we were able to finish it and I was like, I need to get out. I had some personal things happened in my life, so I just needed to reset. I got my parents, a house on this lake down there and this other house opened up. So me and my brother just went in on it. Usually after every project I do, I would go on a trip to, uh, anywhere around the world where I didn't speak the language or know the area just to. Kind of reconnected myself in a weird way, like go through the world as just who I am at that moment and remember, who Billy is. I kinda did that with going down to Georgia. We're renovating my parents' house. So like we're literally going down the line of the house, the roof everything's just rebuilding and constructing the whole thing. Yeah. And it's been really nice to do that with my parents and help them, you know, my father was a carpenter. He's retired now, so it's just like me and him knocking down walls and putting them back up. It's just such a nice pace. I'll always have this house.
Did you learn this as a kid or are these new skills you are picking up now?
BM: I grew up in a carpenter shop. I have all the guts and the nail holes from shooting my fingers and stuff. I have all the scars. Yeah, I just grew up in a carpenter shop, it wasn't the life I wanted to go down. I mean, literally since I was like five, I was in that corporate tree shot every summer I was just working, working, and then finally college came and I was like, got the opportunity to go to North Carolina school of the arts and. Just kind of went down this rabbit hole of acting and theater there. I'm so glad I have those skills.
It's a good time to mention James Bond and talk about being in the biggest franchise in movie history.
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buddy call me up and he was like, Hey, I got a character for you. Can you do this? And I was like, yeah, of course. And at the end of the day, it's, it's just, again, it's a job like. Yes. There's so many beautiful things about it and like you said, the biggest franchise in the world. I could see from being on the outside and watching and be like, holy shit. But when you're going through it, just like, just do your job, like, don't fuck this up. You're still worried about that part.
I guess it's like probably playing in the super bowl. You don't have time to be, oh my God. I'm playing in the super bowl.
BM: Yeah. Yeah, well, that's like I was, I watched hockey the other night at the Rangers game. And like I was thinking about these people they're playing in Madison Square Garden, who are the New York Rangers, they are just playing the game. It's the same game they've been playing since they were kids. They're just playing the game because they love it. I guess, acting, it's kind of the same thing. It doesn't matter where it is. You're just doing the thing you like. Like doing and you. It might've been Gary Oldman. He was auditioning to play Macbeth. And he finally found out and got the role. He was like, holy shit. I'm playing Macbeth and then he's like, holy shit, I'm playing MACBETH! Cause he had to do all the work.
I gotta ask about your character in James Bond, No Time To Die. The name is incredible. Logan Ash. Maybe you can't tell us something about the character. Did you do any physical training, or combat training?
BM: You know, he's a CIA agent with Felix and I did a lot of training. There was this amazing French stunt team. I showed up to London, I think two months earlier and we just trained all the time, boxing, punching, guns, and it was awesome. You're just training for the stuff and I hope it pays off. I hope it looks good, you know? But it was a great workout.
What is the biggest lesson you have learned in your career so far?
BM: Fuck man. Biggest lesson I learned through all these years of having a career is like, don't be a fucking ass hole. That's the best thing you could do. Have a good time. Enjoy yourself. Don't be a Dick. Yeah. I mean, I think that's what makes you probably successful both in your career and in life though. People don't want to be around someone who is a Dick. No, no one does. It gets around fast now in this industry.
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