9 May - 24 Jul 2016
DIANA AL-HADID
DIANA AL-HADID 9 May - 24 July 2016
The sculptures, paintings, and drawings of
work a metaphorical “bridge” between the
Syrian-born and Ohio-raised Diana Al-Hadid
Middle Eastern world of Al-Hadid’s early
(1981 – ) are vivid and complex fusions of
childhood and the Western world—Brooklyn,
contradictions.
New York—she now inhabits.
They bring together abstraction and
By re-imagining the monuments of great
representation, construction and
civilizations as fading images or apparitions,
destruction, contemporaneity and
Al-Hadid not only challenges the viewer
historicity, solidity and fluidity, endurance
to question established notions of both
and ephemerality, fragility and strength, the
Western and Eastern cultures, she also
ruinous and the luminous.
renders those symbols mysteriously inscrutable and full of new possibilities.
Al-Hadid creates highly intricate works that draw from historical forms of architecture and art—Duccio di Buoninsegna’s The Temptation of Christ on the Mountain (1308-11) and Jacopo Pontormo’s The Deposition from the Cross (1528) as in the present exhibition—as well as folkloric and mythological stories. Nonetheless, her use of industrial materials (rebar, plaster, polymer gypsum, polystyrene, and fiberglass) in addition to textiles, cardboard, paint, and pigments, yields works
Diana Al-Hadid, Untitled, 2015, Conte, charcoal, pastel, acrylic on mylar
that are firmly grounded in contemporary idioms.
(left) Blind Bust II, 2012, Bronze, painted stainless steel. Edition 1 of 6, with 2 AP. Photo: Jason Wyche
To some scholars, the architectural and
(cover) The Weightlifters (detail), 2015, Polymer gypsum, fiberglass, steel, plaster, aluminum leaf, pigment. Photo: Matt Grubb
textural qualities of Al-Hadid’s dense and intricate surfaces recall Arabic calligraphy and Islamic textile patterns, thus making her
All images, unless otherwise noted are Courtesy of the artist and Marianne Boesky Gallery, New York. © Diana Al-Hadid
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Diana Al-Hadid:
something; other times, I am really fussy and
An Interview
laboriously finesse something. The work has
Conducted by Monica Ramirez-Montagut museum director and exhibition curator
often been described as ruinous, but I think that is largely coming from my temperament rather than a desire to reconstruct the
MRM: Your work has been described
illusion of decay or some other metaphor.
appearing as if “suspended in a state of either
Perhaps the methods of my construction
construction or decay.”1 To me it speaks to
could be read as having a particular social
both—to the achievements of great cultural
interpretation, but I leave that up to you or
constructions such as art, architecture,
the viewer to read. I prefer to talk about the
design, and even religious narratives, as well
things that caught my attention before or
as the inexorable passing of time and the
after a project, or the things I learned along
fragility of civilization. Can you talk about
the way. I am interested in tracing trends in
this dichotomy or, as you mention in some
my visual language, but I prefer not to offer
interviews, do your aesthetics lean toward
analytical interpretations of my work along
making history and culture appear fluid?
the lines of what those choices mean. That might ruin the fun for everyone else.
DAH: The appearance of the work is a direct result of the material process and my temperament at the moment. Sometimes I am rather aggressive with how I build
MRM: As you may know, New Orleans is often described as “the city that care forgot,” in part for its abundance of aging historic structures in varying states of disrepair and decay. Thus, I think for many in New Orleans, your work will resonate in profound ways. New Orleanians perceive the scarring and weathering of a building or object as beautiful because they represent the city, its history, and its culture. Can you tell me more about how “patina” and “aging” tell stories in your work and what kind of narratives they tell? DAH: Perhaps a better way to discuss this is not so much in terms of the “finish” of the surface, because in many ways the structure and the surface are often laminated together, not treated as separate things. So much of
Diana Al-Hadid, Untitled, 2013. Conte, charcoal, pastel, acrylic on mylar. Photo: Jason Wyche
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Nancy Doll, director, Weatherspoon Art Museum
Diana Al-Hadid, The Square, 2014, Polymer gypsum, fiberglass, steel, plaster, gold leaf, pigment. Photo: Jason Wyche
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the work is open, in the sense that one can see (or easily imagine) the outside and inside simultaneously. The work is porous not only in its fabrication, meaning you can see through to the other side, but also in terms of the material itself as it allows varnishes, studio dust, fingerprints, etc. to soak in. I suppose in that sense, the work tells the story of its own construction, and sometimes the history of the object as it’s been accumulating dust and age in my studio. I do love storytelling, but I am not necessarily always telling a single linear story in my work. I take from stories and I think in stories, but I also take from and think in abstraction. Narrative and abstraction can
Diana Al-Hadid, Untitled, 2012, Conte, pastel, acrylic, charcoal on mylar. Photo: Jason Wyche
coexist. The work may not tell a specific story all the time, but it may be a record of an
DAH: As I build my work I tend to be more
event. Often it is tied to a real or imagined
preoccupied with the making before the
“event.” Real, for example, when I break,
metaphor. I think about the materials, the
burn, cut, or construct the work; imagined,
structure, the form, etc. first. I do want my
when I enlist the assistance of bees to build
work to be resilient as a practical concern.
something or a volcanic eruption directs the
I want it to ship safely and to be archival,
form. The event is simultaneously a material
but that’s more a structural issue than a
consideration as well as the development
metaphorical interpretation. I shake and
of a fictional narrative that unfolds as it is
stress the work before it leaves the studio
constructed.
many times, so what remains is largely the strongest and most secure. I suppose I want
MRM: It seems to me that your work, even
the skin and the structure to be as closely
with its seemingly precarious surfaces
bound as possible: for the object (or the
and construction demonstrates incredible
image) to be held together with just what is
resilience. Does this concept resonate with
essential. Perhaps this impulse in me means
you and your work? And, talking about
that what is left over is the most durable
resilience brings to mind New Orleans after
and lasting, and perhaps it may be read as a
Hurricane Katrina, and I wonder if it evokes
kind of resilience. I’m quite aggressive with
your native Syria?
my work, so they have to hold up to my own
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fury. I’m not sure if this structural resilience
a pedestal that is fit more for an erect figure,
has a connection to the cultural resilience
but she is perhaps become too relaxed in the
of New Orleans or Syria, but it’s certainly an
sun. Anyway, that was the story I told myself
interesting thought!
as I made her, she was my first outdoor sculpture, so it seemed fitting she be affected
MRM: Can you tell me a bit more about the
by the elements.
inspiration for In Mortal Repose (2011)? MRM: Similarly, can you share with us the DAH: This work was in development for
story behind Head in the Clouds (2014)?
a couple of years as part of a residency invitation through the University of South
DAH: Head in the Clouds was exhibited for
Florida’s Graphic Studio. I had never worked
the first time in the top room of Marianne
with bronze before, but, of course, I knew
Boesky’s uptown gallery, where there was a
that it first had to be made in wax, and wax I
huge skylight. It began with the pedestal and
had used. I also had never worked with the
the head, parts salvaged from other works.
figure so directly, and I wanted to try that. I
The clay head was the original for one of the
wanted to make a woman in repose, reclining
Blind Bust sculptures, which you also have in
comfortably, self-aware, proud but not
the exhibition. The pedestal was one of a few
exactly monumental. She sits comfortably on
that were being tossed after another artist’s
Diana Al-Hadid, In Mortal Repose (detail), 2011, bronze and concrete. Photo: Jason Wyche
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Diana Al-Hadid, Head in the Clouds, 2014, Polymer gypsum, fiberglass, steel, foam, wood, plaster, clay, gold leaf, pigment. Photo: Jason Mandella
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Duccio di Buoninsegna (ca. 1255−ca. 1319), The Temptation of Christ on the Mountain, 1308−11, Tempera on poplar panel (cradled). Copyright: The Frick Collection
exhibition. I responded to it in the same way
The Temptation of Christ on The Mountain,
you might respond to a new sketchbook you
which is a super bizarre and completely
are given—the size, texture, and weight all
breathtaking painting. Christ’s cloak is traced
affect the mark you make next.
with a very distinct gold outline that makes the otherwise contoured fabric look flat.
I built up the surface to create a kind of
In a similar manner, floating in front of the
moving landscape, one corner raised higher
clay head is a quick “sketch” of the face. The
and the opposite corner spilling over
figure holds a small model of my childhood
the box and cantilevering to form more
suburban house in North Canton, Ohio.
ground for the figure to rest against. I had a sentimental connection to the head, of
MRM: The panel format of such works as
course, so I wanted to honor it by setting it
The Seventh Month (2015), The Weightlifters
up high, out of reach and proud. The middle
(2015), and Mob Mentality (2014)
section constituting its “body” connects the
represents a new type of work, which is
head to the pedestal by a very thin frame
neither a purely two-dimensional painting
that is the contour drawing of a cloak in a
nor a straightforward three-dimensional
Duccio painting I saw at the Frick called
sculpture. Is it your idea that these panels
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Diana Al-Hadid, Mob Mentality, 2014, polymer gypsum, fiberglass, steel, plaster, gold leaf, pigment. Photo: Jason Wyche
feel more like objects or that you want the
mark or “drip” of color is reinforced from the
viewer to feel surrounded by, and thus
back. The open areas are the parts that were
invested in, the depicted narrative? Are we
not “painted,” so it’s, in fact, a mostly additive
supposed to give as much relevance to what
process rather than subtractive.
is on the surface of the panel as to what is beyond that first layer? Can you share your
I suppose I think of them as both objects and
thoughts on this with us?
images, because there is an image there or at least a composition of some kind to start, but
DAH: I think you put it very well. I had a hard
it can sometimes become very smothered or
time deciding what to call these things when
obscured. But they are certainly still objects
I first started making them. Certainly they
because I’m not terribly concerned with
are in the world of paintings in some way
image-building, and I don’t study paint and
because they are made when I first “drip” an
color the way true painters do. I guess it’s
image on a wall and then of course they hang
just something else. I like that a person can
on a wall. But the process comes directly
dip in and out of the work and think about its
from my sculptures. I learned how to make
construction and it’s materiality and, like my
them from experimenting. And, of course,
other sculptures, to see through to the other
there is no canvas: they are built up as each
side. I don’t like to trap space.
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Diana Al-Hadid, The Seventh Month, 2015, Polymer gypsum, fiberglass, steel, plaster, gold leaf, pigment. Photo: Bill Orcutt
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Diana Al-Hadid, The Weightlifters, 2015, Polymer gypsum, fiberglass, steel, plaster, aluminum leaf, pigment. Photo: Matt Grubb
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MRM: In a PBS Art21 episode you mention that you did not grow up in a Christian home and therefore Biblical references are not completely clear to you but you nonetheless feel this type of religious-themed art is very generous—everyone can take part in it. Works such as The Seventh Month, The Weightlifters, and Mob Mentality that are your take on Biblical-inspired Renaissance and Mannerist paintings. I find it interesting that your titles present a literal understanding of the figures as humans engaging in earthly activities. As such, the Virgin Mary is a woman in her seventh month of pregnancy, the Ascension presents a group helping to lift someone, and the Last Supper becomes a celebration of the masses. Is this a strategy that brings these narratives closer to our normal, everyday existence and, in turn, preferences?
Jacopo Pontormo,The Deposition from the Cross, c.1528, oil on wood. Cappella Capponi, Santa Felicita, Florence
DAH: That’s a lovely interpretation. I
The Weightlifters is from a Deposition,
suppose it’s the result of my thinking more
but Pontormo’s painting is striking for
about the composition of the story, or my
the incredible feeling of gravity pulling
filling in the blanks of what I don’t know, or
down on the central figure who holds up
even just reading the new direction that the
Christ in the front, and also the strange
work may take from the original reference.
levity of the figures in the top part of the
The Seventh Month is from something rather
composition. Everyone is interlocked in a
obscure, so I’m not 100% sure it’s a Mary
massive melodramatic pile. I don’t remember
figure, although it’s entirely possible. I was
exactly where Mob Mentality came from, but
taken by the image of a pregnant woman who
I remember the mass of people crowding
was also carrying a sword. I myself was in my
under a tight frame that seemed to swarm
seventh month of pregnancy. So sometimes
around a central figure, and they all became a
the work may begin in one place and end up
rhythmic blur in the end.
unites us all, regardless of our religious
somewhere entirely differently. I find a way to relate to it personally or discover it may
MRM: Appropriately, that brings us to the
have a double meaning
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ABOUT THE ARTIST Diana Al-Hadid received a BA in Art History and a BFA in sculpture from Kent State University and an MFA in sculpture from Virginia Commonwealth University. She later attended Maine’s Skowhegan School of Painting and Sculpture. Her work is included in the collections of The Whitney Museum, The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, and Weatherspoon Art Museum, and The Judith Rothschild Foundation, New York, among others. Al-Hadid has had solo exhibitions at the Secession in Vienna, Austria, Columbus College of Art and Design, Weatherspoon Art Museum, Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, Nasher Sculpture Center, Centro de Arte Contemporåneo, La Conservera, Nevada Museum of Art, and the Hammer Museum. She lives and works in Brooklyn, New York.
Photo courtesy of ART21.
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