2020 December PIA New Hampshire

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December 2020 • New Hampshire

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WHAT IS INSURTECH? An agents’ review INSURTECH FOR AGENTS 9

Stay connected with clients

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Tools for a pandemic

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Who controls the data?


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In brief

9 Tech 13 Connect 17 Sales 31 E&O

COVER STORY 20 What is InsurTech?

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Readers’ service and advertising index

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Officers and directors directory

An agents’ review

FEATURE 27 Who is in control? Agents and their data

Statements of fact and opinion in PIA magazine are the responsibility of the authors alone and do not imply an opinion on the part of the officers or the members of the Professional Insurance Agents. Participation in PIA events, activities, and/or publications is available on a nondiscriminatory basis and does not reflect PIA endorsement of the products and/or services. President and CEO Jeff Parmenter, CPCU, ARM; Executive Director Kelly K. Norris, CAE; Communications Director Katherine Morra; Senior Magazine Designer Sue Jacobsen; Editor-In-Chief Jaye Czupryna; Advertising Sales Executive Susan Heath; Communications Department contributors: Athena Cancio, Alexandra Chouinard, Patricia Corlett, Darel Cramer, Roberta Lawrence, Zack Littrell, Alysia Plaza and Crystal Ringler. Postmaster: Send address changes to: Professional Insurance Agents magazine, 25 Chamberlain St., Glenmont, NY 12077-0997. “Professional Insurance Agents” (USPS 913-400) is published monthly by PIA Management Services Inc., except for a combined July/August issue. Subscription rate for members is $13 per year, which is included in the dues; subscription rate for nonmembers is $25 per year. Professional Insurance Agents, 25 Chamberlain St., P.O. Box 997, Glenmont, NY 12077-0997; (518) 434-3111 or toll-free (800) 424-4244; email pia@pia.org; World Wide Web address: pia.org. Periodical postage paid at Glenmont, N.Y., and additional mailing offices. ©2020 Professional Insurance Agents. All rights reserved. No material within this publication may be reproduced—in whole or in part—without the express written consent of the publisher.

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Survey: Agents, brokers performing through pandemic Even as the pandemic has forced changes to the ways in which they conduct business, independent insurance agents and brokers have continued to grow while generating record profitability. That is the primary finding of the third-quarter Organic Growth & Profitability Survey conducted by Reagan Consulting. “Brokers are evolving to succeed in the face of COVID19,” said Mitchell Gentry, associate of Reagan Consulting. After posting organic growth of 6.6% in Q1, industry growth has slowed as a result of the pandemic. Q2 organic growth fell to 4.4% and Q3 inched upward to 4.7%. The two-quarter average of 4.6% exceeds average quarterly OGP results from 2015 to 2017, observed Gentry. Further, “large and small firms have … grown at almost identical clips,” said Gentry, while “the difference between top and bottom quartile growth has decreased in each quarter.” Taken together, those statistics defy the reasonable expectation that only the median growth would be relatively stable during the crisis while large firms would grow at the expense of smaller ones. Performance of individual lines Commercial lines posted growth of 5.5% in Q3, an increase from 4.7% in Q2 2020. Personal lines posted growth of 2.1% in Q3, up from 1.1% in Q2 2020.

However, employee benefits posted the lowest Q3 growth rate since 2009—dropping from 4.2% in Q2 to 3.9% in Q3. Government premium moratoriums, declining headcounts and payrolls, and employee furloughs all could have caused the drop, observed Gentry. Broker profitability at record levels “For the second consecutive quarter, EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) and operating margins set OGP records for their respective quarter,” said Gentry. Attributing the increase to reduced selling expenses driven by entertainment and travel restrictions during the pandemic, profitability may increase in the coming months as agents and brokers “right-size their office footprints and eliminate discretionary expenditures, among other strategic initiatives.” Confidence mounts As they continue to post stable growth, independent agents and brokers grow increasingly optimistic. But, the real impact of the pandemic on revenues won’t be known until Q4 for two reasons, said Gentry. First, the 2020 election results will begin to affect the economy; and second, the pandemic’s greatest financial punch was from March through June of this year, and broker growth “tends to lag economic growth by six months.”

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Take advantage of PIA’s partnership with Agency Revolution and use technology to reach out to your clients. Agency Revolution is a proven system that agents have used to optimize their web presence and integrate marketing campaigns that include social media and traditional methods into their everyday workflows.

Technology can help you get to market faster. AVYST eForms Wizard enables professional insurance agents to interview clients and prospects on-site; allowing agency personnel to input data directly into forms that are saved and shareable. Once information is collected, it can be conveyed to the business’s carriers, wholesalers and other sources within the agency. This innovative system eliminates redundant entry on forms, and empowers the ability to complete multiple ACORD applications; and helps agents get to market faster.

The agreement provides PIA members with access to the expertise of industry marketing veteran Michael Jans, founder of Agency Revolution, and his firm’s expansive industry research to implement marketing systems that include mechanisms from personalized emails to custombuilt websites at a substantial discount. For more information, see agencyrevolution.com or call (888) 208-9239. Don’t forget to mention your PIA membership.

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Technology use in your agency How do your customer service representatives feel about using your agency’s technology to provide service to your customers? Do they feel like they have one foot in and one foot out, and have no idea how to do the Hokey Pokey? The insurance industry tells us independent agencies are defined by the following four types of technology phases: Manual transition—having minimal reliance on technology and automation. Process focused—utilizing technology to enhance service, and allow staff members to work more efficiently. Service focused—using technology and automation as its primary source of information and documentation. Client focused—implementing technology and automation fully to allow staff members more time to focus on the customer, and achieve increased productivity. Most agencies exhibit a combination of these phases. Yet, staff members often don’t have a clear direction to tell them where they are headed. And, yet technology—like each company’s website or your agency management system—is a vital part of your agency’s functionality.

After you have verified the current coverage, you need to make the changes to reflect the new automobile. This will make coverage effective immediately. Many company websites allow you to print out the insurance identification card and binder. But, if they don’t, you need to go back to your agency management system, or a stand-alone vehicle identification card generator. The transaction is complete. Now, how do you set up the diary for follow up? It is the agency’s responsibility to make sure the endorsement has been processed and completed as requested. The function of your diary system is going to depend on whether your agency is in the manual-transaction; process-focused; service-focused; or client-focused agency stage.

The company’s website The majority of your personal-lines accounts probably are handled through an insurance company’s website. However, you still need to utilize your agency management system for parts of these transactions.

The agency’s AMS What happens when a change of auto alteration needs to be made to a policy when an agent doesn’t have access to an insurance company’s website? The process is different. You still need to access your agency management system to find out which insurance company the insured uses. Hopefully, your AMS has an endorsement request function. Then you can produce the actual ACORD endorsement-request form from your system and either email it; fax it or mail it to the insurance company.

For example: If a car dealer calls the agency to make a change of autos for your insured, first, you need to utilize your agency’s Change of Auto form to obtain the necessary information. Then, you need to verify with your customer that the change to the policy is necessary, since only an insured can make a change to a policy.

Where is your agency? Once the company sends the endorsement to the agency, what is next? A client-focused agency receives everything through a download from the insurance company into the agency management system and does not print any documents. The agency relies on the AMS.

Once you have all the information from the car dealer and your customer, you need to access your agency management system to find out which insurance company the insured uses. However, when you utilize the insurance company website, you don’t enter anything into your agency management system.

The service- and process-focused agency receives the download into the agency management system and wants a paper copy, too. It is best to save a copy of the document into the AMS (service focused) or print the document out and file it in a paper file (process focused).

Using the company’s website, you need to verify that coverage of the insured’s policy is actually in force. Each company website is going to be different—which is one of the most frustrating parts of the transaction to agency staff. How many times have you heard a company marketing representative say, “Our website is really easy”? This may be true. However, independent agents can access 6

a dozen different sites throughout the day, and none are the same.

Wherever your agency is in its technology-development stage, it’s important to remember that when running an independent agency, you have a process and procedure practice in place for handling this transaction in a way that is best for you and your insureds. Not only will this help all of your staff do their jobs and provide the best customer service to your insureds, it will help you in the event of an errors-and-omissions claim.

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KATHERINE SLYE-HERNANDEZ, PH.D. Government & Industry Affairs specialist, PIA Northeast

Lessons from COVID: Stay connected with clients This year has looked different for many businesses—especially those that deal directly, face-to-face with the public. Since the pandemic “shut down” the country in March, we have had to rely more on electronic forms of communication, some of which we may have never used before in our businesses, such as Zoom, a cloud-based, peer-to-peer software platform used for teleconferencing. Some businesses, including insurance agencies, were more prepared or set-up to adapt to these new forms of communication while others struggled, but it demonstrated the need for agents to have multiple ways to connect with clients individually and to communicate about their products and services to the public. It also stressed the importance of having clients’ cell phone numbers, email addresses, and social-media handles.

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Even under normal circumstances, electronic communications can make sharing policy-related documents much easier. However, electronic communications became vital when states were on lockdown. During this time, shipping companies and the U.S. Postal Service were overrun by increased online ordering, which

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led to delays—something you don’t want when it comes to insurance. Getting your clients signed up for electronic communications about their policies can make communication easier and seamless; clients can receive their policy information in a matter of minutes instead of days or even weeks.

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However, remember you cannot start communicating such information automatically. You need to get consent from a client to communicate policy information and documents electronically. PIA Northeast has a number of resources about the rules and best practices for the electronic delivery of information to your clients. To access this information, PIA Northeast members can log on to pia.org and search for “electronic delivery” in the PIA QuickSource library.

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Client access Being unable to meet with clients in person has made an online presence all the more important. In the 21st century, it is necessary—especially since most people look for things online. It also gives you another means to communicate with all of your clients. A website gives you a central location to send clients if they are looking for certain information, and it makes it easier for potential clients to find you. The same goes for a Facebook or LinkedIn page. These social-media channels give you the opportunity to share information with clients, like about the dangers of floods or tips on how to prepare for a hurricane. They also allow you to encourage people to contact your office should they have questions about whether their policy includes certain coverages, and allows you to have another touch point of communication with your clients. The phone or Zoom app also has become more widely needed during this time. Current or potential clients discuss policy options with you via phone or Zoom instead of coming into the office to talk. In the early days of the pandemic—even in states where insurance agencies were considered essential businesses— many people were not comfortable traveling to places unless it was necessary, so we had to find other ways to connect.

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While COVID-19 precipitated the push for more clients to opt-in to electronic communications, for agencies to increase their online presence and utilize other communication tools like Zoom, there’s a good chance these practices won’t go


away when we (hopefully) return to a semblance of normal. This technology, while necessary right now, is great even when we are not limited in where we can go. It makes it easier for the client to just sign on to Zoom to chat instead of driving to your office, and it can help you talk to more clients. An online presence can help you get your

The technology, while necessary right now, is great even when we are not limited in where we can go. It makes it easier for the client to just sign on to Zoom to chat instead of driving to your office, and it can help you talk to more clients.

Reach out to clients Need help marketing your agency on electronic platforms? PIA Northeast has created free (for members) digital marketing materials that can be used on social media (the Business Recovery Campaign). PIA Design & Print can help you update your website, as well as rebrand your agency. And, if you are interested in designing, printing and mailing marketing materials that can be sent to your clients to keep in touch with them (e.g., brochures, postcards, fliers, magazines or newsletters), PIA Design & Print can help with that, too. For more information, or to see samples, log on to pia.org/design&print, email design.print@pia.org or call (800) 424-4244. Slye-Hernandez is PIA Northeast’s Government & Industry Affairs specialist.

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team can be more confident in claims and policy processing, and integration with marketing efforts, among other procedures. Mobile access Almost everyone has a smartphone, and, according to J.D. Power’s 2019 Insurance Digital Experience Survey, nearly 75% of all insurance companies evaluated offered a mobile app. Your agency needs mobile access to provide immediate self-service and a convenient way to capture timely information during an accident, or when you need to get in touch with customers quickly. It also can be used to provide customers with regular updates and share FAQ answers to calm concerns. Client portal According to a 2019 report by Statista.com, close to 90% of U.S. consumers expect businesses to have a self-service online portal. These portals empower customers to meet their needs, and get to know your agency better in the process. And, client portals are available 24/7 to answer routine FAQ concerns, freeing up customer service representatives to spend more time on problems that require a human touch. When integrated with your agency management system, client portals sync customer activity in real-time, so you’re up-to-date with your customers, even during uncertain times. Integrated texting Integrated texting is an essential way for independent agents to communicate directly and immediately with clients without creating gaps in documentation. Texting can be used to alert customers when a policy is coming up for renewal, when a payment is late, or to update them on critical information regarding safety and operations. Paperless processing and eSignature During an emergency, it’s unlikely you’ll be able to print, fax, and mail documents in any timely manner. The ability to smoothly and securely bind coverage and submit applications digitally is critical to maintaining business operations during these times. With paperless document processing, including digital eSignature technology, your agency cannot only operate during a disaster, but can do so quickly, securely, and more efficiently than with paper forms. Secure infrastructure With so much data transferring via digital technology, your agency needs to be ready with secure infrastructure to protect your clients and employees from external data threats. According to the Clark School at the University of Maryland, a cyberattack occurs every 39 seconds. And 43% of those attacks are on small businesses, like local insurance agencies. To reap the benefits without being exposed to the risks, agencies need to invest in infrastructure and training to keep customer data safe. Essential contingency tips Beyond obtaining the right tools, your agency also needs to address areas like: Digital tools. It’s essential to train staff and allow customers to use digital tools, like virtual meetings apps or remote desktops. As the COVID-19 outbreak became a pandemic, virtual meeting platform Zoom saw a 109% surge in downloads according to a report by Crain’s New York Business. This surge was followed by a rush in how-to videos and tutorials to get new users 14

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up to speed. Have the same tactics in place for your agency, including providing laptops and IT support for those who may be new to working remotely. Create and update a disaster plan. Make sure to include a point person and structures for how to make decisions and deliver information to your employees, customers, and partners. This plan should be updated regularly as your agency grows and new contingency tools become available. [EDITOR’S NOTE: PIA Northeast has resources to help its members develop their disaster plans.] Expect change. Based on what you, your agency, and the national and global economy faces during a disaster, be prepared for some of the changes your agency has made during the pandemic to become permanent. Additionally, agents should think about how COVID-19 will lead to a demand in coverage for pandemics and other biological disasters. Communication and connection At the heart of all these tools and tips are communication and connection. Staying in touch with your clients and employees can ease stress and reinforce meaningful connections during uncertain times. Leverage systems like marketing automation and integrated texting and email to stay in touch with your clients, and keep them updated on your efforts to keep operations safe and moving forward. Though we can’t predict when disasters will end or the longlasting outcomes, we can keep business as close to usual as possible when we connect and communicate. Deak is one of the founders of NuGrowth Solutions and CEO of Strategic Insurance Software, acquired by NuGrowth in 2009.


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How to keep going when you want it all to go away How long will the Damocles Sword of the pandemic hang over our heads? As the days drag on, will it threaten to upend us indefinitely? Even though we try to avoid thinking about the troubling possibilities, they keep creeping into our minds, creating more stress, clouding our ability to stay focused, and leaving us irritable, angry, less effective—and tired. It’s not a pretty picture, not one we could possibly imagine ever facing. So, when we’re confused and uncertain about the future, what are we to do? Here are some thoughts about this question: Don’t listen to yourself. Why does it always happen when we’re trying to get to sleep at night? What is so upsetting is what causes the anxiety and does the damage is the voice inside your head. We are never our own best friend in the middle of the night. Stop listening to yourself. It’s time for a personal fact-checker—but neither Alexa nor Siri qualify—this is a job for someone you trust. Reach out to someone and ask: “This is what’s concerning me. Am I on track or off the rails?” Look for new possibilities. The good news is that life is not a matter of choosing the right fake Zoom background to convince ourselves (and others) that we’re more than just OK. It amounts to more than that. Recently, an editor sent me one of my sales articles. He had kept it until he found the right place for it. Recognizing that it had been around for about a year, he asked if I would look it over to see if it needed updating. When I read it, I was shocked at what I found! In a relatively short time, the world changed dramatically—and the article needed updating to reflect what had transpired. People are no different, so it may be time to ask yourself a tough question, “Am I dated?” Think about it. What can you do to update yourself? Sure, you may know your job backwards and forwards, but that doesn’t count anymore. Focus on figuring out how to revise your performance. How can you make what you do more relevant? What can you do to enhance your value? Think about the possibilities. Get better acquainted with yourself. If you really want to get to know yourself as you really are, you might want to spend time in Wyoming. But be prepared, Wyomingites aren’t subtle. They don’t tip-toe around; they’re not afraid to tell it like it is, no matter who you are. Having lived there, I speak from experience. For example, I recall the memorable words of a motorcycle-

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riding English professor from the University of Wyoming: “If you can’t write it, you don’t know it.”

Here’s the point. If you want to get better acquainted with yourself, jot down life experiences from your early memories to now. Don’t just remember them, get them on paper. Write them down as they come to mind. Ideas never come all at once. If you really want to know yourself, start writing. You may like what you discover. Be ready for the unexpected. How many times in the last six months have you heard someone say, perhaps wistfully, “I’ll sure be glad when life gets back to the way it was.” Even though we may not have said it out loud, most everyone has harbored the thought more than a few times. It’s just too much to let ourselves think that going back is not an option.

If we’ve learned anything from the pandemic, it’s that we should learn to keep an eye out for surprises and the unexpected. Even though we may not like to think that everything is up for grabs because of the pandemic, it is: the way we live, work, play, learn, shop, think, do business, and behave. It’s changing and will continue to evolve. Keeping an eye out for the unpredictable will make living easier and more rewarding.

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Change the picture of yourself. Add continuing uncertainty to the pervasive impact of COVID-19, and it’s more than enough to distort our picture of ourselves and crush our self-confidence. It’s too much to let ourselves think about what could possibly be coming next. How we happen to view ourselves is not a given or chiseled in stone, unless we allow ourselves to look at it that way. In a wonderful essay,

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Graham of GrahamComm is a marketing and sales strategy consultant and business writer. He is the creator of Magnet Marketing, and publishes a free monthly eBulletin, No Nonsense Marketing & Sales Ideas. Reach him at (617) 774-9759 jgraham@grahamcomm.com or johnrgraham.com.


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here has been a lot of buzz about InsurTech in the insurance industry over the past decade—among both insurance carriers and insurance agencies. However, many agents who hear the term are fuzzy on what it really means. InsurTech is an offshoot of the 2010 Fintech movement. By definition, InsurTech refers to any innovative, insurance-based technology that delivers new features, services or processes to agencies and carriers. These technology innovations are designed to streamline workflow efficiencies, increase productivity, and lower operating costs. Agencies and carriers are implementing these technologies to achieve a competitive advantage and improve their bottom line.

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Traditionally, investments in carrier solutions far outpace the investment for agency solutions, given that agencies simply do not have the time or money to spend on automated solutions. Many InsurTech companies are relatively new or start-ups that are trying to bring positive change to an industry in which the legacy methods remain in use. Market entry for these new companies has not been an easy task. Not only do new vendors face a highly regulated insurance industry, they also are up against traditional vendors that actively work to block new vendor development and protect market share. InsurTech vendors take advantage of technology to disrupt or to improve processes through a variety of methods, but the two most common are: 1. APIs: The Application Programming Interface allows vendors to connect to other systems easily. 2. Plug-and-play solutions: These easy-to-use solutions enable a computer to recognize and configure the app with little or no user intervention.

Internet of Things Another term that is bantered around is IoT, or the Internet of Things, but what does it really mean? It describes the network of physical objects (things) that are embedded with sensors, software, and other technologies for the purpose of connecting and exchanging data with other devices and systems over the internet. For example: Water damage for homes and apartments are big claim items for insurance carriers. There are IoT solutions that provide sensors set near areas with washing machines, water heaters and furnaces that raise alerts when water is rising. The sensor can trigger a command to shut the water off to avoid a catastrophic loss if nobody is home.

The agents’ perspective InsurTech is a huge topic and covers many areas, so we can only begin to scratch the surface. This article will focus on personal and commercial lines. Given the pandemic, many agencies have adapted to a new way of doing business. And, InsurTech companies are positioned to mitigate some of the issues by replacing older legacy methods with innovative solutions at disruptive prices. Three agents from PIA-member agencies (of various size) located in the Northeast helped to collaborate and provide input for this article: Mike Foy, president, Foy Insurance, Exeter, N.H.; Connie Mahoney, office manager, Mark Anthony Associates, Mountainside, N.J.; and Stephen G. Todd, CPCU, CIC, president/CEO, Brooks, Todd & McNeil, Torrington, Conn. We asked the agents for feedback on how they gauge return on investment for InsurTech solutions. They responded that the top factors to determine ROI were: time, customer service and cost. Time. The time saved was the most important criteria when trying to determine the ROI of InsurTech. For example, if a staff member saves 15 minutes a day by using an improved process or feature, it equates to five hours a month or 65 hours a year—just for one person. Multiply that by the number of staff members and the savings become substantial. Agents must look at the possible hidden, long-term benefits when they evaluate new technology solutions.

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Customer service. The second most important criteria was selecting solutions that improve customer service and response, which ultimately helps with retention. Agents are concerned about their ratings and reviews that appear online, so they look for solutions that add value and enhance their customers’ experiences. Cost. Additionally, agents will consider new products that improve time-and-service efficiencies. Agents prefer to see a 12-18 month breakeven (return on investment). In addition to the cost of the new automation, agents also consider the implementation and training-time costs when they consider the ROI. These agents do not want training on new products to disrupt their current operations and bottleneck their agencies’ customer service. Next, we asked the agents how they select InsurTech solutions for their agencies. These solutions are found through personal referrals from other agents, which the agents found are the best way—since it is better to hear from actual users about their experiences, if possible. Agents also reach out to their own personal networks. They have people they can call to ask questions and disseminate information. And, under normal conditions, many agents find new solutions through state, regional or national trade association conferences and conventions—but this year most of those options were not available given the pandemic. Additional avenues for research include reading various trade publications, insurance forums or search engines (e.g., Google). Agents also access vendors’ websites for information after reviewing ads shared on social media. When searching for new InsurTech solutions, these agents also take


into account the vendor’s financial stability. They want to make sure that any new vendor they adopt will be around for the long haul. This can be difficult to gauge unless the vendor provides its financial information. Agents are concerned about adopting a new product, only to have a venture capital company or a competitive industry giant acquire the product and change it, increase the price, or pull it off the market. When we asked if the national pandemic affected their decision to look at new InsurTech solutions, the consensus was “yes.” The fact that agencies’ staff members were forced to work remotely made many agency principals realize that running an agency remotely introduced new challenges. For example, one agency was focused on developing a digital marketing program and launching a new website. However, when the pandemic struck, the agency shifted its priorities to the following: • The agency put its new digital marketing plan and website on hold after it realized it needed to adapt a new remote workplace. • It implemented Zoom for video conferencing, purchased headsets for the staff members, and provided the necessary training. Adding Zoom replaced on-site visits, and gave the staff members the ability to talk to prospective clients and existing clients about their current policies and renewals. The pandemic also showed agents how valuable InsurTech solutions can be. Agencies with true, webbased agency management systems were able to adapt to working from home much easier than agencies with cloud-based systems or locally installed systems. Agencies with true web-based systems only needed to access the internet through their

browser—no software installation was required. Comparatively, agencies with cloud-based systems had to install software on every remote computer physically. Employees at agencies with locally installed agency management systems that are not cloud-based, needed to bring their office computer home, or install the whole system on their home computer. The process was both time consuming and financially painful. When asked about the InsurTech solutions that proved to be most valuable for their agencies during the pandemic (when their offices were closed), the agents responded that—in addition to teleconferencing applications—they soon realized how much time could be saved using eSignature, which made the whole application process much faster and easier for their current or prospective clients. Without eSignature, agents were forced to use email or the U.S. Postal Service to send and receive applications. The entire process was slower and labor intensive. Using eSignature also solved another problem—no one had to worry about handling paper forms, and catching the virus. We also asked if any of the agents had explored new agency management systems lately. One agent has started exploring various options, since the agency’s automation costs are one of its biggest expenses. The agent prefers to have an agency management system that is integrated fully with everything including the agency’s website. Currently, the agent is comparing the real cost of adding all the extras (e.g., customer portal, mobile apps, self-service and eSignature) against new systems that have bundled these services. The agent is exploring what other kinds of features are available to help the agency reduce its workload, save time, improve service, downloads, analytics and reporting. Then the agent will be able to determine and compare its true monthly cost. Another agent said the agency really needed to upgrade from its old system— it was rigid and not equipped to handle some of the problems that exist today. The agent has just started the product-review process. Regarding additional InsurTech solutions, two of the agents interviewed said their agencies have a customer portal and/or mobile app. While customer portal and mobile app solutions are getting a lot of press, one agent found that the customer adoption/acceptance rate was low. At first, one agent was reluctant to embrace a customer portal. The agent thought that millennials would not be loyal to the independent agency channel. Much to the agent’s surprise, there is data in the last two years that indicates that millennials value an independent agent’s advice more so than baby boomers. The third agent’s agency did not have a customer portal or mobile app, but the agent was willing to look at them again. Only one agent interviewed had a self-service portal as part of the agency’s offerings. The agent viewed the self-service portal positively for the agency’s commercial-lines clients as it allowed customers to add a certificate holder, print their own certificate of insurance, and improved customer service. For the agents who did not have a commercial-lines, self-service portal for their agencies, their main concern was the price of the system, and whether their clients would view the adoption of such as system as a value-added service. Generally, the agents thought that the adoption rate of a self-service portal for personal-lines clients would be low among customers. PIA.ORG

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Future solutions We asked the agents what their No. 1 hot-button issue is, and what InsurTech solution they would like to incorporate into their agencies if there weren’t any limitations. The first agent wants a better customer relationship management system that would allow the agency to collect more information and improve analytics. However, the solution needs to be balanced. And, the system needs to be affordable, and easy to use for the producers, given that it will take more time to collect the data. The second agent would like to see more carrier integrations for commercial lines to help speed up the data entry and collection. The agent wants to see a personal-lines like quoting process.

What challenges does your agency face in adopting new technologies? Insufficient training 38.6% Insufficient staffing 31.8% Lack of financial or other support from my carriers 31.2% Insufficient budget 27.3% No clear ROI 26.8% Cultural resistance 25.2%

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Automation In the end, personal- and commercial-lines business is all about data automation—and the burdensome amount of time and cost agents spend gathering, entering, submitting, processing, and retrieving data. Right now, there are InsurTech solutions that address these issues. These solutions clearly demonstrate new and improved workflow efficiencies for carriers and agencies. These InsurTech products/systems increase agency productivity and reduce operating costs, which improve profitability and increase the agency’s bottom line. So, these are exciting times. Find out for yourself what the buzz is all about: InsurTech, it will be worth your time.

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All individuals and businesses have come to realize how critically important data is to their ability to function in today’s world. Security, privacy, authenticity, and control are all factors that must be considered when devising a data strategy. In this article, I will be focusing on control (i.e., who regulates access to agency data, who has the rights to use agency data, and who determines the purposes for which it can be used).

Insurance is data Data is more important to the functioning of insurance businesses than any other kind of business. Unlike organizations that make, service, or sell stuff, insurance businesses collect information about people and organizations, and the stuff they make or use in order to create and sell financial promises. Those promises (which we call policies or bonds), define the risks and exposures represented by people and businesses and their stuff, and guarantee compensation for damage, illness or death caused by specific kinds of incidents, accidents, or injuries—all

of which are described by data. More succinctly, data is the only product produced by insurance businesses.

Information and data The distinction between information and data is a subtle, but important one. Information can arrive in many forms, but data always is digital. Despite a recent increase in consumer-facing websites and software apps for the collection of risk and exposure information, typically, insureds still share their information with agents or insurers using the phone or paper forms. This information does not become data until the agency or the insurer’s personnel enter the information into their computer systems. Sadly, this data will likely go through several transformations from data to information to data and back during its lifetime, because our industry does a poor job of sharing data electronically. For example, an insured shares a current paper policy (information) with an agent who keys this information into the agency management system (data) and then generates ACORD applications as PDFs (information), PIA.ORG

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which are emailed to their insurers to request quotes. The insurer’s personnel key that information into their systems (data) to generate quotes as PDFs (information), which are emailed to the agent. The agent then shares the quotes with his or her prospective customer, or types the insurers’ quote information into their proposal document for the prospect. Ultimately, the insured will choose a quote and the agent will request issuance of the policy and, eventually, the policy information will be downloaded (data) into the agency management system. And, then the PDF/paper policy (information) will be emailed/mailed to the insured and agent.

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Regulators and data Insurance regulators seem to struggle to define the rights and responsibilities for data, applicable to the agents and insurers that they are in charge of regulating. Everyone will agree that insureds own their data, but very little of the data contained in the systems of agents and insurers actually is contributed by the insureds. Clearly, names and addresses and other personally identifiable information (e.g., Social Security numbers and birth dates) belong to insureds. But, what about data such as the coverages, limits, and deductibles recommended and entered by agents into their agency management systems? And, what about rating factors and prices entered by the insurer’s personnel or generated by the insurer’s systems? And finally, what about publicly available data such as convictions and classifications? State regulations hold agents and insurers responsible for the security and privacy of the data that “belongs” to insureds that is stored in their systems. While many insurers have their own data centers in which they have complete control of insureds’ data, the vast majority of agents utilize systems that they license from vendors that own the data centers in which the agents’ data is stored, and that they access via the internet using desktop or laptop computers (which do not store the data). Unfortunately, the regulators have no control over these vendors, so the agents are caught in the middle. Some states have begun fining agents for using outdated versions of ACORD forms—even though agents have no control over when their vendors update their systems.


Ownership and control Discussions of data ownership quickly become fraught, and are largely beside the point. Control is the point (i.e., who regulates access to agency data, who has the rights to use agency data, and who determines the purposes for which it can be used). Unfortunately, most agents have ceded the rights to the data in their agency management systems to the vendors that control them. There are many significant benefits to using software-as-a-service solutions—when agents license the software, but don’t have data storage on-site for the programs or data. And, there is absolutely no reason that agents have to sign over their rights to control access to their data to the vendors providing these SaaS systems. However, the language of those license agreements definitively gives their vendors that right.

Agencies and AMSs How has this happened? It is a cautionary tale. When AMSs came on the market, many agency principals did not understand the new technology. Because most of the systems that were built originally focused on operations (i.e., accounting, policy and claims information and forms generation)—and offered little in the way of sales support like customer relationship management systems and mobile applications— agency owners typically placed little value on automation. So, when their vendors offered them the opportunity to outsource their technology, they leapt at the chance.

In the early days, the agency management systems’ license agreements did not provide the vendors with control over access to the agencies’ data—and there is no reason that they should today. However, as the largest vendors grew, and they realized the potential of all that data, they changed their license agreements to give themselves the right to use the agents’ data. Data is a big business, and some big-data companies and private-equity firms return profit margins in excess of 50%. This is why it is important to read your licensing contracts.

De-identified and aggregated In order to use agencies’ data, big-data companies and private-equity firms commit that it will be de-identified and aggregated—which means that any data that could enable someone to identify a specific insured, or any of his or her individual risks must be removed. It also means that the data from many agencies must be combined in such a way that the business results exposed in their analyses can’t be traced back to a particular agency. This allows them the ability to analyze the entire insurance industry for trends. Additionally, according to many AMS licensing agreements, once the information is de-identified and aggregated, it becomes the property of the vendor. It’s not unusual for a vendor to charge its customers to provide analytics of their profitability and the efficiency of their operations, or analyzing and recommending courses of action for an agent to take with particular insureds. However, combining all agencies’ customers’ data to derive analytics about the industry as a whole deserves at least a conscious opt-in provision, instead of a clause in the SaaS license agreements.

Next steps When you look to partner with any vendor that will have access to your data, read your licensing contracts carefully, so you know what you are signing away. Remember to look at all your options—there is a broad range of InsurTech startups, which are available to you and offer you a wide variety of solutions. Sentner has provided technology solutions to the insurance industry for more than 40 years. He has managed policy, billing and claims system replacement projects for insurers, has provided strategic consulting for The Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers, and now consults with ACORD and serves on the boards of several startup InsurTech firms. Recently, he worked with representatives from Connecticut, the City of Hartford, UConn, several national insurers, and InsurTech Hartford to create the first InsurTech Accelerator in Connecticut.

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When a customer makes an E&O allegation In the event that an agency customer had a claim denied by his or her carrier, or for which there were not enough limits to cover the loss, the customer may decide to contact your agency and allege that he or she had the wrong coverage, or that the coverage in place had insufficient limits. If this occurs, there are several things that you need to do—and practices that you should avoid—to ensure that you do not compromise your agency’s errors-and-omissions coverage.

What to do Steps to take to ensure that you do not compromise your E&O coverage: Report the incidents and claims in a timely manner. Incidents are facts that are made known to you that may result in an E&O claim. An E&O claim is a demand for money or services. It is important that you notify your E&O carrier if there is an incident or claim to preserve your coverage. Report a subpoena for a customer’s file to your E&O carrier. A subpoena for a customer’s file is a fact-finding endeavor. Not all such subpoenas result in the pursuit of an E&O claim, but having legal counsel review the request to ensure that the response is appropriate may prevent additional issues from arising. Your E&O policy may cover subpoenas for customer files, and defense counsel may be assigned to assist you in the response, if necessary. Advise your customer that the issue has been reported to your carrier—if asked. You should not discuss an open claim with the claimant. You should continue speaking with this customer about other insurance matters, and provide the customer with the same service you would if there was not a claim. However, you should not discuss the claim with the claimant.

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a breach of policy conditions. If you get a demand for money or services from your customer or a third party, report it immediately to your E&O carrier’s claims department, so the E&O claims specialists can review the matter and provide you with the appropriate assistance. Never attempt to “fix” the issue. Similar to making payments, providing services or advice to attempt to “fix” the issue, without first speaking to an E&O claim specialist, may result in exacerbating the situation. Submit the claim or incident and discuss it with an E&O claims specialist before proceeding. Do not delay. Report the matter to your E&O carrier as soon as possible. Failure to report a claim in a timely manner may result in your insurer refusing to accept your insurance claim.

Do not jeopardize your E&O coverage because you think a claim will be within your deductible, or you believe the hassle of reporting the claim will not be worth the effort. The potential for claims to escalate is great, and the time it takes to report a claim and discuss the facts with a claim specialist is insignificant when compared to the time and expense of a litigated E&O claim. Utica National Insurance Group and Utica National are trade names for Utica Mutual Insurance Company, its affiliates and subsidiaries. Home Office: New Hartford, N.Y. 13413. 31


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Binders prior to closings, credit checks and more Pizza delivery Q. Our insured’s son works for a pizza shop. His employer has him using his own car for the deliveries. Would he have coverage for an accident if he was using his own car to deliver the food? A. The current ISO personal auto policy states that there is no coverage for an insured’s “ownership or operation of a vehicle while it is being used as a public or livery conveyance.” The standard legal definition of public or livery conveyance is “a vehicle used indiscriminately in conveying the public, without limitation to certain persons or particular occasions or without being governed by special terms.” Pizza delivery is not a good fit under these terms, so courts around the country have prohibited this exclusion from precluding coverage for the delivery of pizza. Nonstandard policy language should be evaluated; but even then, enforcement of the exclusion may be prevented by financial responsibility laws.—Dan Corbin, CPCU, CIC, LUTC

Parents own young couple’s house Q. We insure a young couple, who are living in a home purchased for them by their parents. The home is titled in the parents’ names, but only the couple lives there. We could write a dwelling policy for the parents and an HO-4 for the occupants, but we feel this would be an unnecessary complication. We would like to write an HO-3 with both the couple and the parents listed. Would this cover everyone’s interests? A. The problem with writing an HO-3 policy is that this situation does not meet the ISO “eligibility” standards of owner/occupancy.

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the mortgagee on the policy and issue the binder, but this would create a problem for the current mortgagee’s interest. Should the attorney be asking for an evidence of property insurance form to set the closing date?

A. The preferred way to handle this would be to offer the attorney a current Certificate of Property Insurance form (ACORD 24) ahead of the closing date. Then, after the closing has occurred, send the insurer a request to change the mortgagee and issue the Evidence of Personal Property form (ACORD 27).

However, if the attorney insists on a binder, you will need to issue a new policy for the new mortgagee, since binders only are used when the policy has not yet been issued. In this case, the current policy already has been issued and should remain in force until the closing date, when the new policy binder is issued. —Helen K. Horn, CIC, CPIA, CISR

However, if an underwriter will write the policy anyway, there should be no coverage problems as long as the named insured(s) reside in the home. Be sure to add the HO 04 41–Additional Insured endorsement, naming the parents, to protect the parents’ interests.—Dan Corbin, CPCU, CIC, LUTC

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Q. Generally, credit checks are becoming a condition for carrier appointments. Both principals and producers can be subject to this requirement. If a carrier makes an inquiry into an insur-

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ance producer’s credit, will this have a bearing on his or her credit report or credit history?

renting an auto outside the country does present a coverage problem.)

A. We can understand the aggravating aspect of this, if one does not have a stellar history, that history could then be used as part of the decision process— just like a credit score is used in obtaining an insurance policy. However, a review of credit history for employment purposes is considered a soft inquiry, which are not considered in credit score calculations or lending decisions, so they do not affect a person’s credit score.

Personal property is covered up to the full policy limit “while it is anywhere in the world.”

Inquiries not related to a new financial commitment won’t hurt your credit score. These include credit checks from employers, companies sending preapproved offers of credit or insurance, or in this case, a carrier reviewing the agency principal’s credit history. However, an inquiry will be added to the credit report each time it is accessed by an insurance company, potential employer, etc.—Bradford J. Lachut, Esq.

While premises coverage is limited to an “insured location,” the definition includes “any part of a premises: 1. not owned by an ‘insured’; and 2. where an ‘insured’ is temporarily residing.” So a vacation residence in a foreign country that fits this description would be covered for premises liability.—Dan Corbin, CPCU, CIC, LUTC

Worldwide coverage Q. Does a homeowner’s coverage apply worldwide if he or she is planning to vacation out of the country?

As far as liability for the insured’s personal activities, there is no territorial restriction.

A. Yes. In the ISO homeowners policy, there is no territorial restriction to certain countries, as you would find in most personal auto policies. (However,

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President Lyle W. Fulkerson, Esq. HPM Insurance 101 Ponemah Road #1 Amherst, NH 03031-2816 (603) 673-1201 lyle@hpminsurance.com President-elect Keith T. Maglia Insurance Solutions Corp. 60 Westville Road Plaistow, NH 03865-2947 (603) 382-4600 kmaglia@isc-insurance.com Vice President Jeffrey Foy, AAI Foy Insurance-Manchester 1889 Elm St. Manchester, NH 03104-2500 (603) 641-8111 jeff.foy@foyinsurance.com Secretary/Treasurer Casey Hadlock Hadlock Agency Inc. 150 Old County Road Littleton, NH 03561-3628 (603) 444-5500 casey@bestinsurance.net

Lynn Marcou, AAI-M, CPIA SAN Group 37 Standish Way Amherst, NH 03031-2812 (603) 601-1252 lynnm@sangroup.com Diane M. St. Cyr, CPIA CRC Group 14 Dixon Ave., Ste. 203 Concord, NH 03301-4957 (603) 931-3102 dstcyr@crcgroup.com

ACTIVE PAST PRESIDENTS Lisa Nolan, CPCU Cross Insurance 1100 Elm St. Manchester, NH 03101-1500 (603) 669-3218 lnolan@crossagency.com

By phone …

John Obrey Obrey Insurance Agency Inc. 1B Commons Drive, Unit 13a PO Box 1018 Londonderry, NH 03053-1018 (603) 432-3883 john@obreyinsurance.com

DIRECTORS

Nick Aube, CIC J. Clifton Avery Agency 21 S. Main St. PO Box 1510 Wolfeboro, NH 03894-1510 (603) 569-2515 nicka@averyinsurance.com

Online …

PIA serves members. (800) 424-4244 pia@pia.org pia.org


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