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Hillsong United Joel Houston and Hillsong United helped shape the modern
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worship movement. Now,
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after a much-needed
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8 0 // ERWIN MCMANUS McManus has spent his life learning how to live. Now, he’s ready to teach the rest of us.
The band that revolutionized how an entire generation worships reached a point where they couldn’t feel the wonder anymore. Here’s the story of how Hillsong United found hope again.
8 4 // BEN HIGGINS The king of reality TV romance is figuring out how to leverage his platform for good.
3 2 // 2019 SUMMER READING GUIDE
Judah & the Lion
A look at the books that will take your summer from good to great.
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3 6 // ROONEY MARA As the star of Mary Magdalene, Rooney Mara finds a fresh perspective on Jesus.
4 0 // STEPH CURRY His legacy as an athlete secure, Curry is setting his sights on being a filmmaker.
5 0 // HE AVEN AND SELL How multilevel marketing schemes found their easiest mark yet in churches.
Tony Hale
p . 76 How did this former worship band end up topping the pop music charts? They’re not totally sure, but they’re not planning on going anywhere.
p .44 With Veep and Arrested Development, Hale has created two of comedy’s greatest characters. Now, he’s finding a whole new character: himself.
5 4 // TAR AJI P. HENSON
6 8 // THE JAPANESE HOUSE
The star of Empire on how her faith makes her a better and more loving actor.
One of the most promising artists of her generation is wrestling with her demons.
6 4 // MENTAL HE ALTH
7 2 // A HOUSE DIVIDED
A team of mental health experts is here to kick your mind into its best possible shape.
Politics. Religion. Justice. How can families talk about the issues tearing us apart?
1 0 // FIRS T WORD
8 8 // RELE VANT SELECT S Our curation of the best in music, books and
1 2 // CURRENT We chat with red-hot stand-up comic Nate Bargatze, find out which year’s upcoming
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film. You know Johnnyswim and Social Club Misfits, but are you up on the new LÉON?
music festival is right for you and rank pop
9 6 // L AS T WORD
culture’s best (worst?) devils. Plus, Lupita
Jennie Allen on why sometimes, dreaming big
Nyong’o and more.
has to start small.
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it’s different. The need is different. So, God’s been challenging us to look at the
We’ve got 99 issues, but staying still ain’t one
horizon, and what we’re seeing is new wine needing a very new wineskin. Interestingly, when looking at RELEVANT as a business—the print magazine, website, podcasts, etc.—the magazine you’re holding
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TO STAY SAFE IN OUR
offers: stories and ideas worth sitting down
FAMILIAR PLACE THAT WE
our subscribers say they keep an issue of
to me: This is the 99th issue
RELEVANT over nine months. different, I’m talking about something bigger
bi-monthly since 2003, covering
than just the magazine. The doors we’re
the intersection of faith and
seeing God open are pushing us out of our
culture, and giving a voice to what God is doing
comfort zone and making us fundamentally
in this generation. On one hand it feels like we’re
rethink what we do and why we do it. Is there
still just starting out, but then you look up and
a new model? Is there ultimately a different
we’re on the eve of our 100th issue.
purpose for the media we’ll be creating? something like that, you have a choice to make:
doing a new thing in this generation, but there
Stay with what you know and is comfortable,
wasn’t a platform to talk about it. We needed a
or take a big risk on Him. Media changes rapidly, and I don’t know what the future holds for RELEVANT. We’re still dreaming, and everything is very much
times over the years, looking ahead to our 100th
wet cement. But I do know our next issue will
issue this summer and beyond has caused me to
symbolize a bit of a strategic pivot from our
pause and think about our direction and purpose
current missional era to a new one.
all over again. I’m immensely proud of the work the
It’s stretching (and scary) when you decide to double-down and chase a new dream. But
RELEVANT team has done over the years. We’ve
isn’t that how we’re supposed to live life? God
engaged important conversations; we’ve talked to
is always doing something new, and it’s when
people who are shaping culture; we’ve shined the
we choose to stay safe in our familiar place
spotlight on issues that needed attention; we’ve
that we miss out on the new move He’s doing.
tried our best to challenge the status quo and make a difference. And despite all of that, I haven’t been able to shake the feeling lately there’s something more
So, yes, the new era is going to look a little different. God is stirring something significant. It’s been an incredible ride these first 99
for us to do. Things are changing rapidly, and
issues. Thank you for reading, and for being
there’s a void today just like when we started. But
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When God starts to open your eyes to
was a clear void that needed to be filled. God was
And while RELEVANT has evolved countless
MISS OUT ON THE NEW
So when I talk about doing something
publishing the print magazine
and the secular, calling, quarterlife crises.
SOMETHING NEW, AND IT’S WHEN WE CHOOSE
the kind of content a magazine uniquely
ere’s a surreal fact, at least
place to wrestle with the big questions, the sacred
CHASE A NEW DREAM. BUT ISN’T THAT HOW WE’RE
healthy venture. (So, no, the magazine’s not
content. It isn’t as disposable. 80 percent of
When we set out to launch RELEVANT, there
TO DOUBLE-DOWN AND
SUPPOSED TO LIVE LIFE?
magazine readers spend time with the
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SCARY) WHEN YOU DECIDE
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and spending time with. Unlike web readers,
of RELEVANT. We’ve been
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Chris Evans’ Post-MCU Mission: Avenging the Political Divide Having wrapped his stint as an Avenger, Chris Evans is turning his attention to politics.
IF
YOU’VE PAID ANY
a meaningful, substantive
attention to Chris Evans’
way. The idea is to pepper
Twitter account, you know
politicians with common
the Avengers star is not shy
questions on various issues
about his political opinions.
and then give them 60 seconds
“IT’S NOT ABOUT MY POLITICAL OPINION. IT’S ABOUT YOURS.”
His social media presence led to speculation
to respond, explaining their
that Captain America might quit Hollywood
stance. That explanation will be posted to
donations from special interest groups.
and set his sights on Capitol Hill. And in a
A Starting Point, along with links to further
But in its best version, A Starting Point
way, that’s what he’s doing, though Evans’
information. The end goal is to provide
could be an antidote to the Facebook echo
political aspirations are different, and better
voters with simple, concise explanations of
chamber; a place to hear what the people
than you might expect.
important issues from both sides of the aisle.
you didn’t vote for really think and, who
Evans announced that he’s launching a
Will it work? Maybe. It remains to be seen
knows, maybe even change your mind. “It’s
new website called A Starting Point, that
how the site will deal with the fact that, say,
not about my political opinion,” says Evans.
will aim to bridge the partisan divide in
many politicians’ views are influenced by
“It’s about yours.”
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Study: Religion Actually Makes People Happier
Chance the Rapper: The New Champion for Young Earth Creationism?
IS RELIGION GOOD FOR YOUR
emotional health? A new Pew Research study certainly points to yes, but there’s a caveat: You have to be “actively religious.” The study found a pretty stark happy gap between the
Never shy about advocating for things he believes in, Chance has a new cause.
“actively religious” and those people who are inactively religious or not religious at
C
HANCE THE RAPPER ,
years? idk”. And in a follow-up:
one of the hip-hop
“I give this joint a million on the
marvels of this
high side.”
generation, has a
all in the U.S. A full 36% of Americans who described themselves as “actively
A Pew Research study earlier
religious” said they
lot going on. He has his highly
this year found 81% of Americans
were “very happy.”
anticipated Coloring Book follow-
believe humans evolved over
Just 25% of the
up album due this summer. He’s
time. White evangelicals are, as
inactively religious
newly married. And now he’s
you might expect, more likely to
taken on a new mantle:
be skeptical of evolution: Four
champion of the young Earth
in 10 say humans have always
creation theory.
existed in their present state, and
It all started on Twitter (Where
27% of black Protestants say the
religion doesn’t really do
else?) when Chance tweeted an
same. That clashes pretty harshly
anything for your emotional
innocuous musing about the age
with American scientists, 98% of
well-being if your beliefs
of the Earth, positing, “Y’all think
whom say humans and all life
don’t manifest in regular
this s*** goin on for a billion
forms evolved.
actions like going to a worship
and 25% of the non-religious said the same. In other words,
service and praying.
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New York Magazine reported most
PureFlix’s recent abortion movie
On Easter Sunday at this year’s
Americans believe marriage isn’t
Unplanned holds a brutal 0% top
Coachella music festival, Kanye West
important to becoming an adult.
critics’ rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
hosted one of his “Sunday Service”
What’s more, 45% of U.S. adults
Still, the movie made $6.3 million
gatherings featuring a mix of gospel
are single.
its first weekend.
performances and prayer.
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THE HOT LIST Bimonthly Cultural Power Rankings
Ethically Minded Millennials Are Causing a Hunting Boom The latest thing millennials are killing? Animals. THOSE NAMBY-PAMBY, PC-
choosing to be part of the
happy, safe-space addicted
food chain instead of just
millennials have found a new
clicking around on
target on which to focus their
Uber Eats.
M E N TA L H EA LT H
ire. Literally, in this case,
[Hottest]
as hunting is experiencing
Artists like Kim WalkerSmith are talking about mental health in spaces
something of a boom among folks who have realized that
where it’s still taboo.
the most ethical way to eat meat might just be to kill
B R I E L A RS O N
it yourself.
[Hotter]
In 1982, 16.7 million
Captain Marvel is a huge
Americans had paid hunting
advocate for gender
licenses, but that number had
equality. We’re fans. J O R DA N P E E L E [Hot]
1
4 2
8 5
dropped by 2010 when just 9
14.4 million Americans did.
7
6
3
But times are changing and
Us was even more dar-
by 2018, that number had
ing than Get Out.
grown to 15.6 million. It’s not
10
quite where it was back in the hunting boom years, but there’s research to suggest a new resurgence is being led by
“Mother? Moooother?”
millennials who are actively B R I C K - A N D - M O RTA R [Cold]
1: The lower head / 2: The flank / 3: No, maybe this is the flank? / 4: The back / 5: This is the flank for sure / 6: The
LifeWay announced
tummy / 7: The rear tummy / 8: The haunches / 9: The lower haunches / 10: The upper hoof
they’ll be closing their 170 remaining physical Christian bookstores, following Family in 2017. S EX [Colder]
Americans are having less sex than ever, and the trend seems to be driven mostly by young people. Experts blame the rising median marriage age. CO L L EG E S C H E M E S [Coldest]
Good grades and hard work are for other tax
Should the Bible Be Taught in Public Schools? FIVE DIFFERENT STATES are weighing some version of what are being called “Bible studies
bills” that would make it legal to teach the Bible in public schools. Such measures have failed in the past, running up against arguments about the separation of church and state, but the measures received a notable Twitter endorsement from President Donald Trump, who called the idea “great.” Kentucky successfully passed a bill of guidelines for teaching the Bible in 2016, so the notion could be gaining some steam. Supporters say teaching the Bible is akin to teaching religious literacy.
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Michael Sheen and David Tennant in
CURRENT
Good Omens
Turns Out Adults Who Live With Their Parents Save Less
Hellranker A Definitive Listing of Pop Culture’s Best (Worst?) Satans IN AMAZON PRIME’S NEW miniseries
adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s bestselling novel Good Omens, Benedict Cumberbatch voices Satan as a cast that includes Jon Hamm, Frances McDormand and Nick Offerman battle and bicker at the dawn of the end times. With his sultry British snarl, we’ll admit, he makes a good Lucifer. However, when it comes to fictional Satans, it’s a pretty crowded field. Here’s our ranking of the best popculture devils.
1. WILL FERRELL
MILLENNIALS LIVE at
SNL
home more than any other
Real ones remember the SNL classic where Garth Brooks trades his soul to Satan for a few devilishly hot licks. Problem is, Satan’s an awful musician.
generation did. That much
2. DAVE GROHL
But the oft-stated reason for living with the parents—that they just can’t afford anything else—may have a big hole in it. Namely, a new study shows
TENACIOUS D: PICK OF DESTINY
that millennials who move
In an epic, apocalyptic rock-off between Tenacious D (Jack Black and Kyle Glass), Dave Grohl plays a devil who has never rocked softer.
in with roommates end up
3. DEVIL FLANDERS
saving more money than their homebound counterparts. According to research from Comet, around a third of millennials live with their
THE SIMPSONS
parents, but the two-thirds
When Homer claims he’d trade it all for a donut, he discovers to his horror that the real devil is a Flanders look-alike scarier than he could have ever imagined.
who live with roommates or
4. MEL GIBSON BABY DEVIL
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we’ve known for a while.
on their own are far more likely to be putting money into savings. What’s more, millennials living with their parents are 5.5 times more likely to say they’re
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
dissatisfied with their living
Of all the hard-to-watch moments in Mel Gibson’s Jesus biopic, the scene where Satan’s holding an evil baby is definitely the worst.
arrangements.
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Lupita Nyong’o Takes ‘Us’ to the Record Books Biggest opening for an original horror film? Check. Biggest opening for a movie with a woman of color in the lead? Check plus.
IF YOU’VE SEEN
sending the movie
by a woman of color.
any marketing
she headlines into
The previous record
whatsoever for Us,
the record books. Us
belonged to 2004’s
the latest spooky slice
snagged a whopping
Alien vs. Predator,
of social commentary
$72.1 million in its
which starred Sanaa
from writer-director
opening weekend,
Lathan.
Jordan Peele, then
almost doubling
So it’s another
you know Lupita
expectations,
milestone in a career
Nyong’o does double
breaking the record
that’s been full of
duty as both a set-
for highest grossing
them, from winning
upon wife and mom
weekend for an
an Oscar for her work
and her malicious
original horror
in 12 Years a Slave to
dopplegänger. It’s a
movie and maybe
the whole collection
flex of a performance
most notably of all:
of records broken
that is rightfully
snagging the new
by Black Panther. Up
getting heralded as
record for the best
next: a little movie
her finest work to
opening weekend of
called Star Wars.
date, and it’s also
any movie headlined
Half of Pastors Say They’re Nervous About Discussing Social Issues FIFTY PERCENT OF PASTORS SAY THEY’RE NERVOUS about
offending people if they talk about social issues, according to new research from the Barna Group. The study found a bit of a catch-22 for American ministers. Sixty-nine percent say they feel pressured by their congregations to speak into
touchy issues, but 64% say they also feel limited by their congregation in what they are and aren’t allowed to say. Perhaps unsurprisingly, pastors ranked LGBTQ issues as the subject they felt most uncomfortable speaking about, with 44% saying they felt limitations.
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Google unveiled their new video game
In March, hundreds of thousands of
California governor Gavin Newsom
platform called Stadia, in which players
young people around the world
announced a moratorium on capital
can stream mainstream games onto
walked out of classrooms to protest
punishment in the state, granting
their PCs through their web browsers.
inaction on climate change. Can we
reprieve to 737 inmates on death row.
No more fighting for the good controller.
time-travel to when they run things?
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The Summer Festival Survival Handbook S
ummer festivals are not for the faint of heart. It’s not just the temperatures and hordes of unshowered ravers (although those parts aren’t exactly cake walks). It’s also a matter of time management and knowing how to navigate the shows, snacks and downtime. And what do you know, we’ve got a survival guide to help you get through it all like a pro.
Archaeologists in Jerusalem uncovered two seals that bear an inscription noting they belonged to
GOVERNOR’S
BONNAROO
OUTSIDE LANDS
LOLLAPALOOZA
CREATION FEST
BALL
IN A HE AT-
A TRUST FU N D
THE FIST BU MP
G O D LOVES
THE BIG A PPLE
PL AGUED DE ATH
PA R A DISE
OF FESTI VALS
YOU A N D H AS
TR A P, N O O NE
WHERE: New York City (May 31 - June 2) NOTABLE ACTS: Florence + The Machine, Tyler the Creator, SZA THE LOOK: It’s NYC, baby. Do you! THE GEAR: Just bring your big city attitude. That’s the New York City way. TRAVEL: I’m walkin’ here!
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WHERE: Manchester, TN (June 13-16) NOTABLE ACTS: Post Malone, Solange, Cardi B THE LOOK: Think Walking Dead extra. THE GEAR: Bring weapons to defend yourself against people who will want to steal your resources. TRAVEL: You’ll be able to drive there no problem and don’t worry about the return trip as you probably won’t be making one.
A WO N DERFUL
WHERE: San Francisco (August 9-11)
WHERE: Chicago (August 1-4)
NOTABLE ACTS: Chance the Rapper, The Strokes, Tool (rumored)
NOTABLE ACTS: Childish Gambino, Lauren Daigle, Janelle Monae
THE LOOK: Just swing by Anthropologie on the way and you’ll be fine.
THE LOOK: Lolla is in downtown Chicago, so aim for festival vibe meets Midwestern bachelor party.
THE GEAR: Why pack your own gear when your servants can do it for you? TRAVEL: Have your servants have the yacht back at the main gate by 10.
THE GEAR: Pack good shoes since the Lolla grounds are a little big (50 square miles). TRAVEL: If you want to avoid traffic coming and going, you’ll want to get an early start (around 3 a.m.).
FESTI VAL FOR YOUR LIFE
Nathan-Melech, an official named in 2 Kings. The discovery helps confirm the biblical timeline of the City of David.
WHERE: Shirleysburg, PA (June 26-29) NOTABLE ACTS: Elevation Worship, Hillsong United, Kari Jobe THE LOOK: One Direction circa 2015 THE GEAR: The only thing you need has already been given to you. All you have to do is accept it.
According to the 2019 World Happiness Report (a thing, apparently), Finland is the happiest country in the world this year. As for the United States, it’s barely in the top 20, landing at a middling No. 19.
TRAVEL: A 16-passenger van and a big manila for all the gas receipts for Gloria in accounting.
In a tragic loss in the tech world, a server error caused social network MySpace to lose millions of photos, videos and songs published on the site before 2016. Well, it’s not like we were hoping people would find our embarrassing old profiles anyway.
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J
UST HOW BAD IS
pornography? According to a few new pieces of
proposed legislation, it may rise to
In the largest agricultural bust in U.S. history,
the level of a public health crisis.
federal agents
Arizona is weighing a bill saying
seized one million
porn “perpetuates a sexually toxic environment that damages all areas of our society.” If passed, Arizona
pounds of pork at a New jersey port in March. No telling if there was any
would be the 12th state to pass
help for the agents
resolutions labeling porn a crisis.
from their friendly
National organizations are divided on whether or not such measures
neighborhood Spider-Ham.
are correct or even helpful. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told CNN that porn “can be connected to other public health issues like sexual violence and occupational HIV transmission” but said that it “does not have an established position” on whether or
New Legislation Aims to Get Porn Branded a ‘Public Health Crisis’
not it rises to the level of a crisis.
A group of 250
Labeling porn a health crisis
experts signed
doesn’t automatically give state governments any extra control over the legalization of porn and has no extra punishing powers. Instead, supporters say the measures are intended to help raise awareness about the potential dangers of viewing porn.
a petition to the U.N. and World Health Organization asking for regulations on AirPods and other wireless headphones that may cause cancer.
Hate Groups in the U.S. Have Risen 30% Over the Last Four Years Apple’s new
THE RISE IN HATE GROUPS observed by
experts over the last few years in the U.S. shows no signs of slowing down and may actually be increasing. For the
fourth year in a row, the Southern Poverty Law Center has reported a troubling increase in hate groups working in the States, and the SPLC estimates that the
number of groups has risen 30% since 2014, with a 7% rise in 2018 alone. By their metrics, around 1,020 organizations are designated as hate groups in 2018—a high in at
least 20 years. According to the SPLC, most of the growth comes from nationalist groups who are in a “hysteria” over racial demographic shifts in the U.S.
streaming service, Apple+, looks just like every other streaming service on the market. We expected more from those people.
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Nate Bargatze The stand-up comedian opens up about his faith, career and, yes, failing a bowling class.
For years, stand-up comedian Nate Bargatze has been a staple of late-night shows, but after doing a half-hour set for the Netflix series The Standups, things started to change. “I could tell that with these shows, everybody watched it,” he says. The appearance led to his hourlong special, The Tennessee Kid. And we’ll likely be seeing a lot more of him on TV in the future: He’s currently working with Jerrod Carmichael to develop a sitcom based on his life for ABC.
HOW DO YOU FAIL BOWLING, OUT
in God. Then Pete was. Me and him
We recently spoke with Bargatze
OF CURIOSITY?
bonded over that.
about his career, his approach to
I don’t know. I’m actually not that bad of
comedy and how his faith influences
a bowler!
both of them.
and I’m always a fan of that. YOU GREW UP IN A CHRISTIAN HOME
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WHAT WAS YOUR PARENTS’ REACTION
AND GOT YOUR START IN COMEDY WITH
weren’t Christians and didn’t grow up
WHEN YOU TOLD THEM YOU WANTED TO
PETE HOLMES. WHAT DID YOU THINK OF
in the Church or anything. Sometimes
PURSUE COMEDY?
CRASHING AND WHAT WAS IT LIKE FOR
guys can go away from that, but it just
Mine were super supportive. With my
YOU BEING A CHRISTIAN IN COMEDY?
made me get more into it, because I
dad [a Christian magician] doing magic
In Tennessee, everybody is a Christian.
just thought, ‘Why do you think you’re
shows, he loved it. I mean, look, college
So [moving to] Chicago was the first
right?’ I’ve always said I trust my
was not working out. I mean, I failed
time that I ever met people that either
parents more than I trust anybody else
bowling.
weren’t religious or didn’t believe
I ever met.
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crucified, dead and buried tell the story of the cross in its power and in its brutal force. When the apostle Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost, he told the massive crowd assembled before him: “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus
DEEPER
of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders
The True Sign of Redemption
and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men” (Acts 2:22–23). This text underlines that the cross was not something that surprised God or merely
The cross is central to the Gospel
happened to Jesus. It was God’s plan.
because it demands redemption.
When John the Baptist saw Jesus, he cried out, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world”
AS
A YOUNG MAN, I
Christianity is a cross. The fact that
(John 1:29). The lamb, spotless and
ENCOUNTERED A NEW
a horrifying instrument of execution
without blemish, was the best-known
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has been turned into a symbol of
symbol of blood sacrifice.
who had many strong
love, beauty and devotion requires an
feelings about the
explanation.
cross of Christ. He absolutely hated the idea that the crucifixion of Christ
That explanation is called the New Testament. The message of the cross
lay down his life for his friends” (John 15:13). Speaking of His life, Jesus made
was necessary for our
clear that He would go to the
salvation. He hated the
cross willingly: “No one takes
very idea of Christ’s death as our substitute, paying the penalty for our sins that we ourselves could not pay. He heartily rejected what he called “bloody
The fact that a horrifying instrument of execution has been turned into a symbol of love, beauty, and devotion requires an explanation.
cross religion”—the
it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father” (John 10:18). This is why Christians
message of the cross.
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Jesus told His disciples: “Greater love has no one than this, that someone
look to Jesus on the cross
But the Bible reveals so clearly that
is the good news of salvation, and the
as a victor, not a victim. He came for
Christ died for our sins and that the
story of the cross is the story of God’s
this purpose, and He fulfilled this
payment for the penalty for our sins
love for sinners.
redeeming purpose—completely.
was necessary. As the apostle Paul
The Apostles’ Creed takes
teaches us, the cross, and the cross
us to the central truths of our
alone, reveals how God can be both
salvation when we confess
“just and the justifier of the one who
that Jesus Christ, God’s only
has faith in Jesus” (Romans 3:26).
Son, “was crucified, dead and
Indeed, the unmistakable symbol of
buried.” These three words,
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A L BER T MOHL ER JR . Taken from The Apostles’ Creed by Albert Mohler. Copyright © 2019 by R. Albert Mohler Jr. Used by permission of Thomas Nelson. www.TheApostlesCreedBook.com
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HE AT HER AV IS is the author of Scoot Over and Make Some Room and The Lucky Few, and is a popular speaker, podcaster and Instagrammer.
another kind of baby? Which then implies a certain kind of person is better than another kind of person? ur children with
the tragically high termination rate
Down syndrome are
for babies with Down syndrome, they
do we get to decide what kind of life we
born into a world in
often say something along the lines of,
stand for? No! No, we don’t.
which their worth goes
“I knew a woman who got a positive
unnoticed at best. A
diagnosis and considered an abortion.
for life. And if we say we are pro-life,
world in which the majority of people
Thank God, the baby didn’t end up
then we better be pro–Down syndrome
continue to believe a person with
even having Down syndrome. But can
and pro–black lives, pro-autism,
Down syndrome is not worthy of life.
you imagine? She almost terminated a
pro-immigrant, and pro-person-with-
O
If we’re going to stand for life, then
If we stand for life, then we stand
This is simply tragic. There’s one
a-physical-
more thing I wince at, but it’s not
different-
exactly easy to talk about. I wince when many in the Christian community consider the high termination rate of babies with Down syndrome an
Do you see how pro-life is about so much more than being anti-abortion?
anti-abortion issue. Deep breath.
solely on a positive Down syndrome
enter a building (maybe community
perfectly healthy child!” Did you catch it? How not pro-life
church) because it does not accommodate their specific mode of
diagnosis is a modern-day form of
that way of thinking is? Do you see
mobility. And if we say we are pro–Down
eugenics and a tragedy. But when
how harmful it is when we say things
syndrome, then we better be making
those of us who are pro-life put
such as, “Thank God, the baby didn’t
darn well sure that people with Down
all of our energy and focus on the
have Down syndrome”? Or, “We
syndrome have a place in this world to
anti-abortion portion of a pro-life
prayed the diagnosis was wrong, and
be fully embraced just as they are.
worldview, we are only seeing a sliver
God heard our prayer and healed our
of what it really means to be pro-life.
child of Down syndrome! Praise Him!”
We’re also missing an opportunity to
Do you see how not pro-life those
Still with me here? Do you see how pro-life is about so much more than being anti-abortion? It’s about shouting
make the changes necessary to truly
statements are? How such phrases
the worth of all lives! And especially the
save the lives of the unborn.
are drenched in the stink of believing
lives of those whose worth continues to
a certain kind of baby is better than
be questioned.
When talking with people about
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even their
Stay with me here. I do believe terminating a pregnancy based
ability who
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It’s almost as if God redeemed food just as He does us.
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ummers always start with big reading plans. You tell yourself this is the year when you’ll become A Real Reader: someone
Holy Noticing On Taking Every Moment Captive
who can casually discuss their ever-expand-
Charles Stone
ing personal library with confidence.
( M O O D Y P U B L I S H E R S)
But then, well, you know how it goes. Life happens. Netflix happens. And your unread stack just gets higher and higher. But maybe this can be the summer where
Rebecca Makkai
you finally take those aspirations by the covers and build the sort of habit that will change your life numerous times over. There’s no shortcut, but it does get a little easier if you’ve got a list of guaranteed good reads. And lucky you, you’ve got one right at your fingertips.
LIFE ON AUTOPILOT? It
All the Lives We Ever Lived A Literary Meditation
he Great Believers is a searing, unforgettable epic that takes place amidst one of the least understood events of the last few decades: the AIDS crisis.
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doesn’t sound pleasant, but it’s sort of our default state—taking care of the mindless errands of dayto-day life without putting much mental energy into it at all. But Charles Stone’s new book is an invitation to go the extra mile with our minds—to become mentally present with our families, our friends, ourselves and even God all day, every day. Stone’s biblical interpretation is winningly blended with both church history and cutting-edge research for a wonderfully inviting read.
on Grief
RELEVANT: You had to do a lot of
research to get the depiction of the AIDS crisis in The Great Believers right. Why do you think that’s an underdiscussed part of our recent history? MAKKAI: The AIDS crisis did come
into popular culture in a few ways, but the world and America, in particular, didn’t react to that initial American AIDS crisis with the attention that it deserved, so there’s less of that stuff to look back on. RELEVANT: You set out to write a
novel but do you feel like, in some ways, this has turned you into an activist?
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MAKKAI: I don’t want to come off
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seeming like I have some street savior complex, but I do want to be an ally in every way that I can, and I think that fiction is an entry way into this world.
IT’S PRETTY BOLD TO EVOKE a late
novelist as loved as Virginia Woolf right on your cover, but Smyth’s subtitle to her haunting memoir-slash-critical evaluation works because it is, in this case, literally true. This is a book about “Seeking Solace in Virginia Woolf,” and how one woman’s devastation over the loss of her father helped her understand Woolf’s To the Lighthouse
in a fresh way. It’s a great read for fans of Woolf, of course, but All the Lives We Ever Lived is also worth reading for anyone wrestling with what it means for a story to become part of you, and how the things we read end up working their way into our identities even as the people we love move on.
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helped you resolve any lingering tension with your old beliefs? KWON: In some
R.O. Kwon What the Scam of a John Carreyrou (K N O P F)
It took a while, but Elizabeth Holmes’ infamous Theranos scam was eventually exposed for the smoke and mirrors operation it really was. But there were years in which Holmes played Silicon Valley, some of the world’s most powerful people and the entire free market for fools, launching a multimillion dollar company off the promise of cutting-edge technology that did not, and this can’t be stressed enough, work at all. The hows and whys of this have been detailed in an HBO documentary and a few searing long-reads online, but Bad Blood is the definitive account of Theranos: what it claimed to be, what it actually was and how it hoodwinked the masses. And more than other recent grifts, Theranos is just as much about America as it is about Holmes. While she may have gotten caught, the system she exploited is humming on pretty much the same as it always has been, looking for its next mark.
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RELEVANT: Do you miss being a
Christian?
Bad Blood Lifetime Says About Us
ways. Something I’m coming to understand is that maybe writing this book and my writing in general continues to be an act of grieving. It’s my last way of being with God, whom I did love very deeply. It’s entirely possible I still love Him even if I don’t believe in Him.
KWON: Oh, I miss it so much. I
you think the world of disillusioned Christian college dropouts sounds boring, that’s only because you haven’t read The Incendiaries—the award-winning debut novel from R.O. Kwon, who fills the world of a young believerturned-skeptic with intrigue as he starts to suspect that his girlfriend is falling for a dangerous cult leader. Kwon wrote the book because she was raised Christian herself, and she wanted to see her experience depicted in a novel.
IF
RELEVANT: Do you think this book
loved being Christian. It was so fun. I was so happy. I just walked around bathed in light and love and I was always trying to love everyone around me because everyone was a child of God and I thought I would live forever. RELEVANT: And you’re still
grieving that? KWON: Absolutely. Sometimes
love doesn’t end. One aspect of grief is the love for an object that has become unavailable. It’s one last way of having someone with us even when they’re gone.
The Unsaved Christian Reaching Cultural Christianity With the Gospel Dean Inserra ( M O O D Y P U B L I S H E R S)
In this book, Inserra explains how Christianity in America has become more of a cultural signifier than a religious belief, meaning many Christians don’t have a relationship with God at all—and need to be introduced to Him.
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Territory of Light A Novel Yuko Tsushima ( F A R R A R, S T R A U S A N D G I R O U X )
This lovely Japanese novel was translated to English a full 40 years after its publication, and it’s well worth the wait. A haunting story of a woman grappling with her first year raising her toddler alone after her husband leaves. It is a reflection on the joys and terrors of parenthood that will ring true whether or not you have children of your own. A soft, tender and quietly devastating read.
It’s Not Supposed To Be This Way Where to Turn in Hard Times Lysa TerKeurst (T H O M A S N ELS O N)
It’s always refreshing to read authors who admit they don’t have all the answers. TerKeurst’s book was written in the midst of what she calls “shattering” circumstances, and she provides no simple, easy respite for anyone else experiencing the same thing. But she does offer encouragement and practical tips for emotional and spiritual practices that have helped see her through.
When You Read This A Novel Mary Adkins ( H A R P E R C O L L I N S)
What is death in the digital age? It’s been the subject of think pieces on what happens to our social media presence after we pass on, but Adkins uses it as the framework of this story about a young woman who chronicles her final days with a terminal illness online, and the friends who dedicate themselves to making her last wish come true. It’s as sad as it sounds, but surprisingly life-affirming too.
Nate Pyle ore Than You Can Handle is a gutcheck on the idea that God doesn’t give people things too big for them to deal with. That belief, according to Pyle, is a setup for disappointment.
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RELEVANT: Where did the idea
that “God won’t give you more than you can handle” come from? PYLE: I think when people say
it, they say it with really good intentions. They’re trying to give you comfort. But the implicit message is that no matter what
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R O O N E Y M A R A The star of Mary Magdalene looked past her
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character’s reputation. Can the Church do the same?
The first thing Rooney Mara had to
wanted to go into it with a clean slate.”
do as the lead in Mary Magdalene
Many Christians would benefit to do the same. Mara’s bi-
was forget her character’s rep-
opic of the biblical figure finds both its greatest successes and
utation. Pop culture and church
loudest public controversies by putting its title character at
culture have assigned Magdalene
the center of the story. Magdalene is less about bearing wit-
some unflattering (and inaccu-
ness to Jesus’ life than about recording the spectrum of re-
rate)
sinful,
actions to Jesus’ life, and as everyone in the movie comes to
even (thanks to Dan Brown) Jesus’
their own conclusions about what the coming of the Kingdom
wife—but Magdalene, the movie, steers away from the sa-
of God will look like, the narrative positions Mary as someone
lacious to offer a more biblical presentation of her life. For
who had a tighter grip on the truth than most of the disciples,
Mara to do it justice, she had to unlearn who Magdalene was.
if not all of them.
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labels—prostitute,
Pope Gregory I labeled Magdalene a “sinful woman” in the year 591, and public opinion of the biblical figure hasn’t
RETHINKING MAGDALENE
improved much since the early church, even among Chris-
The Church has struggled with Mary Magdalene’s special
tians. Though the Bible makes no mention of Mary being a
understanding of the Gospel for hundreds of years. And of-
prostitute, the theory still persists, and in recent years, the
tentimes, that misunderstanding has mirrored ideas about
runaway success of Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code gave
gender and ministry within the Church itself.
prominence to the notion Magdalene was Jesus’ secret wife.
A popular, conspiratorial narrative has speculated that
This theory is rooted in interpretations of the non-canonical
there must have been a romantic element to Mary and Jesus’
Gnostic gospels (such as the Gospel of Philip and the Gospel
relationship in order for her to garner the esteem she had in
of Mary), but the Bible itself offers no foothold for the idea.
His eyes. Really, the early church was accusing her of seduc-
Nevertheless, misconceptions of Magdalene abound, and Mara, 33, was around a few of them growing up. As a girl,
ing her way to the top. It’s a familiar (and offensive) refrain many successful women face today.
Mara was raised Catholic. She attended Sunday school every
Mara and Garth Davis, the director of Mary Magdalene, antic-
week and went to Catholic school until sixth grade. She’s since
ipated this perception of Mary, but they didn’t expect their mov-
left organized religion, but still had to eradicate her prior im-
ie to be controversial for trying to reclaim Magdalene’s story.
pressions of Magdalene before portraying her on screen.
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“I look at a male-dominated society and the way people
“I had these things in the back of my head I had to let go
have decided to manipulate women in history, and I find that
of and start from scratch,” she says. “I had so much baggage
way more controversial than us telling this story,” Davis says..
in terms of what I knew about the character and the story. I
“Two thousand years and we still haven’t acknowledged this
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interpretation of Mary Magdalene? I
“We
want-
to
remind
think that’s more controversial than
ed
the making of this movie. We’re going
people that the
to meet resistance, but we have to get
Kingdom
these stories out there.”
within us,” Da-
Mara agrees. She hopes that the
is
vis says. “When
movie challenges misunderstandings.
you’re
“A lot of women I know were moved by
the
it and thankful the movie was made,”
everyone had a
she says.
different idea of
Magdalene
positions
Mary
among disciples,
apart
what the com-
from the disciples in two respects. First,
ing of the King-
her relationship with Jesus is more fa-
dom was going
milial than that of Jesus and the other
to be, but what I
disciples. Mary is by Christ’s side at
love about Mary
the Last Supper, for example, and Je-
is she chose to
sus confides in Mary more intimately
just be in the
than He does the Twelve. Their scenes
world and trust.
together sit at the heart of the mov-
It was a com-
ie’s relational web. As Mary and Jesus
pletely different way of being part of
and follow Jesus with the disciples.
become close, the rest of the Twelve
that powerful faith movement.”
She walks into the disciples’ camp
grow jealous, mistrustful or more en-
Mary’s intuition of Jesus’ mission,
and stands out right away as the only
trenched in their own understanding
however, was often dismissed by the
woman. The men are confused and con-
of who Jesus is and why He came.
early church as a result of nepotism.
cerned, even a little intimidated.
The second respect, then, is how
That’s not lost on Mara and Davis, and
“I remember walking up to that
Mary understands the Kingdom of God
in Magdalene, they’re careful to un-
group of men and thinking how it would
in relation to the other disciples. While
derline how Mary’s relationship with
have been absolutely terrifying,” Mara
Simon Peter and Judas Iscariot expect
Jesus came not from special treatment
says. “To just go and join this group of men
“A lot of the issues in the film are present in 2019, even more so than when we made it.” –Rooney Mara
definitely
took a lot of bravery. We’ve never seen that world from
a
female
perspective, and I think the male and female perspectives quite
are
different,
certainly during that
So
or attention, but bold, faith-motivated
there’s a lot of value seeing [the story]
ment in a Messianic uprising, Mary in-
decisions.
from a woman’s point of view.”
Christ says in Luke 17: “The coming of
AN ANCIENT PATRIARCHY
a woman at the time to leave her home
the Kingdom of God is not something
Mara remembers shooting a scene
and follow Jesus. I found it moving to
that can be observed ... because the
early in the film in which Mary makes
see Mary try and find a way to express
Kingdom of God is in your midst.”
the radical choice to leave her home
her calling. I think she’s dealing with
sists the Kingdom is “here and now.” As
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Jesus to overthrow the Roman govern-
Davis agrees: “It was very daring for
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and Mark 16 asserts
Mara and the other actors had to
the same. Modern
strain at times in search of that vulner-
apologists point to
ability. Instead of a soundstage, Magda-
these passages as
lene was shot in places meant to evoke
evidence
the reality of the period, such as Rome
for
the
Resurrection (Why
For Mara, the tactility helped her
place the validity of
become more honest inside the part,
their argument in
her biggest worry going into the role.
the mouths of wom-
Despite leaving Catholicism, Mara still
en, who in those
considers herself very spiritual, so
days could not even
while it was strange for her to be act-
give a testimony in
ing opposite Jesus in the early days of
court?) but even to-
production, the grounded nature of the
day, women looking
movie brought her toward a revelation.
to follow in Mary
She dropped her preconceptions about
Magdalene’s
Mary and Jesus and she found her own
foot-
steps are fighting the same biases she The tactility of
the same prob-
Magdalene helped
lems
Mara give an honest performance.
and the canyons of Southern Italy.
would conspirators
was battling almost 2000 years ago.
idea of the truth again. “I thought it was going to be pretty weird to do some scenes with Jesus,”
women
“A lot of the issues in the film are
she says, laughing. “How do you go into
face today. She
certainly relevant and present in 2019,
that space and make it feel real? But
was
even more so than when we made it (in
it was cool to let myself be open as I
2016),” Mara says.
went along and rediscover what I knew
pushing
up against tradition, and I think a lot of women can
about Jesus. I was surprised. It wasn’t A MODERN PARABLE
dissimilar to the spiritual things I fol-
Mary Magdalene was far from the
Critics might say Magdalene’s illus-
low and believe in as an adult.”
last woman in the Christian Church
tration of Mary is a result of forced
Reputations are a hindrance to
who had to work harder for authori-
contemporaneousness, a way to cram
change, which means to see beyond
ty. Across entire denominations and
modern issues into the Passion narra-
them takes a radical mindset. The
individual church campuses, there is
tive, but from the start, Davis rooted
most controversial thing about Mary
still resistance to the idea that women
his movie in history. His movie does not
Magdalene is not that it shows us a
should be extended explicit pastoral
look, feel or sound like other faith-re-
fresh take on the woman at its center,
roles in the Church. While theologies
lated stories on screen, and that’s the
but that its take feels fresh. It’s both a
differ in that respect, the prospect of
point. He says he wanted to evoke the
signpost pointing toward a more recep-
even giving women more general lead-
feeling of “an elegant documentary.”
tive church and a measuring stick for
relate to that.”
ership positions in church still carries
“I wanted to do a human telling of
the Church’s present shortcomings. It
surprising controversy in 2019. Apart
[this story],” says Davis. “I’m not here
shows a woman in A.D. 33 struggling
from the Church, as some recent news
to judge [other faith movies], but I don’t
with the same lack of validation many
still indicates, there are institutions
relate to them. When I read this script,
of her successors fight against right
that still push harmful ideas that wom-
Jesus wasn’t held above us. He was with
now. Don’t dismiss that tension. Believe
en aren’t believed, recognized, affirmed
the people. I could be on that journey
it and tell the others.
or granted the same authority as men
with Him. I didn’t feel like I was being
today in what they assert or profess.
taught a lesson. All these characters
When Magdalene bore witness to the
have a vulnerability about them, and I
Resurrection among the disciples, Luke
think it’s in those vulnerabilities we get
24 says the disciples didn’t believe her,
close to spiritual truth.”
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Y M I S S I O N The NBA superstar has his sights on a new goal: becoming a Hollywood mogul.
THERE WAS A MOMENT in the days
in a myriad of ways, but on a
following the shooting at Charleston,
visceral level, I believe everybody
South Carolina’s Emanuel AME
understood the message,” Curry says.
Church that Stephen Curry has
It’s the kind of story that NBA
thought about a lot. President
superstar Curry believes the world
Barack Obama was delivering the
needs to hear. The film is co-
eulogy for Rev. Clementa Pinckney—
executive produced by Unanimous
one of nine people gunned down at
Media, a new entertainment
the historic black church by white
company co-founded by Curry to tell
supremacist Dylann Roof—when he
stories about faith.
began singing. The President of the
popular athletes in the world
in “Amazing Grace.”
(the ninth most popular globally,
“There was something powerful BY JESSE CAREY
Curry may be one of the most
United States led the congregation
according to ESPN’s methodology),
in that moment and the idea
but as he sees it, his most important
of grace, the forgiveness of a
work happens off the court.
community and the urge to find
“I know how powerful
the best in ourselves,” Curry says.
storytelling can be,” he says. “One
“Whether religious or not, many
story can reach and impact so many
of us relate to the idea of grace as
people. I also know that I have a
a calming to the soul and whether
unique opportunity to reach a wide
it was the delivery, the timing or
audience, and I wanted to leverage
the person delivering it, that was a
that to inspire and move people.
transcendent moment.”
Stories are about connection.
The moment is featured in
They have the ability to transcend
Emanuel, a new documentary
generations, engage us through
that tells the story of not only the
emotions and connect us to others.”
shooting, but also how many in the community chose to respond to the
MVP
shooting with grace and forgiveness.
Back in 2016, Steph Curry became
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to be named the league’s MVP by a
“Faith is the substance of things
unanimous vote, which inspired the
hoped for and the evidence of things
name of his media company. He’s
not seen,” he says. “It’s core to my
currently the point guard and leader
life on and off the court—it’s rooted
of the Golden State Warriors, one of
in my foundation, my family and my
the most dominant teams in the league
perspective on life.”
and one of the greatest teams of all
Unanimous Media presents an
time by any reasonable metric. That’s
opportunity for Curry to do more than
why it came as a bit of a surprise that
just tell faith stories with a basketball
in the prime of his basketball career
context. He sees it as a chance to tell
“I know how powerful storytelling can be—one story can reach and impact so many people.” he would simultaneously launch a
stories that will reach people where
massive media venture.
they are.
However, it’s a move he’s passionate
Breakthrough, the first major release
of stories to make an impact.
Curry co-executive produced, but it’s
“It was important for me to start Unanimous Media specifically with the goal of telling powerful faith stories,
only a subplot to a larger narrative about faith, family and prayer. Based on a true story, the film
be the only exposure to faith that some
honestly, because life is hard,” he says.
tells the story of a young, basketball-
people will have,” he says. “I don’t take
“There are curveballs and losses that
obsessed teenager who nearly dies
that lightly.”
can feel overwhelming, but through
after falling through the ice of a
those moments, there is also a God
frozen lake. His family and church
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who by nature cannot abandon you,
community pray for a miracle as he
The sheer scope of Curry’s ambitions
and the truth of the Gospel is life-
clings to life.
for Unanimous Media will come as no
changing and life-giving.” Curry has never been shy about his
“This is the first script I received, I
surprise to anyone familiar with the
read it in one sitting and was blown
standards of excellence he’s always set
faith. His signature Under Armour
away,” he says. “I knew immediately
for himself and his team. Along with
shoes all have a reference to his
that I wanted to be a part of bringing it
the upcoming slate of movies, there
favorite Bible verse under the tongue:
to the screen.”
are also plans for video games, virtual
Philippians 4:13, “I can do all things
Curry and the rest of his team
through Christ who strengthens me.”
at Unanimous worked with
They were the fourth best-selling
Breakthrough’s producer DeVon
signature basketball shoe in the world
Franklin, providing notes on the script.
in 2017, just above Jordans.
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about because he believes in the power
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reality projects, physical consumer goods and television shows. Unanimous is even producing an extreme mini-golf competition show for ABC called Holey Moley.
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about trying to be heaven-minded, and raising kids who grow up worshiping the Creator of the universe, as opposed to the temptations of this world.” Unanimous Media has a variety of projects currently in the works including holiday movies centered around Christmas and Easter, an animated Bible movie and even a romantic comedy about the church dating scene called Church Hoppers. But along with the light-hearted fare, there are also moments and stories that are more profound—like the President of the United States singing a hymn to a group of mourning churchgoers who are choosing to offer forgiveness to the man who targeted their community. “Stories like this are the reason we created Unanimous and entered the entertainment space,” he says of Emanuel. “It felt urgent to show the totally human, various journeys of grief and forgiveness, the redeeming and freedom-unlocking power of that forgiveness, and the inspiring way a community was able to come together in the face of unthinkable tragedy.” Curry, a two-time NBA MVP, launched Unanimous Media to
Though Curry and his team
start operating differently.” The doors of Hollywood have
It’s these kinds of stories Curry believes he’s called to tell in the next
have a wide
opened to Curry pretty easily.
stage of his professional life. These
array of projects
Unanimous has already inked an
won’t just entertain viewers. They
they are
enviably lucrative partnership with
have the power to transform the way
interested in pursuing, they all, even
Sony Pictures Entertainment. But
people think about complicated issues.
the mini-golf show, have a common
when it comes to choosing which
goal: bringing families together. Curry
projects to pursue, Curry is relying on
who God is to someone going through
wants people to slow down, sit with
the thing that has brought him this far
it, then that whole thing, the whole
each other and talk about big ideas
and drives him on the court and off of
movie, the entire production of it all,
with people they care about.
it: his faith.
was worth it.”
tell stories of faith.
“So much of how we operate as a
“If we can introduce or redefine
“My faith is a central strand that
culture is based on the now—how
connects the various aspects of my
much money we can make, what we
life—father, husband, son, athlete,
want the world to see, just keeping
business man,” he says. “So when it’s
up with everyone else,” Curry says.
time to make decisions, it’s what I lean
“When we shift our perspective, we
on. It can be big or small, but it’s more
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Hale yes. How Emmy-winning actor Tony Hale let go of ‘success’ and started saying yes to the simple life
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It was about 20 years ago when Tony Hale had an
with Veep, or become the central new character in
experience that would end up shaping his outlook
one of Hollywood’s most beloved franchises–he’ll
on life.
voice “Forky” in the upcoming Toy Story 4–Tony
The aspiring actor had just done a nationwide Pepto-Bismol commercial. In just a few weeks, he’d
Hale learned a major lesson about self-worth. Fame and success wouldn’t make him happy. The
be attending his 10-year high school reunion. For
commercial gave him a platform, connections and a
Hale, this was a very big deal.
little bit of money, but he’d put so much value into it
“I remember thinking, ‘I can’t wait to go back to my high school reunion,’” he says. “I mean, people
that he ultimately felt deflated. “It’s really woken me up to thinking, ‘Wow, this
that maybe I was insecure around, I want them to
is all about the simple,’” he says. “It’s all about
really see me in this space. I want them to see that
breathing and connecting with people and loving
I’m the guy on TV.”
people and loving God. I mean, not to sound like
Hale was in his late 20s. The commercial didn’t just feel like a success. It felt like validation.
a devotional, but it’s almost like the more things have gotten bigger, the simpler they’ve gotten in my
“I put a lot of energy into that fantasy of walking
mind. Life has gotten simpler.”
into that room,” he remembers. THE SIMPLE LIFE
However, after the reunion, something unexpected happened. Hale didn’t feel great about
It’s hard to pinpoint the exact moment when Tony
his achievement. He felt empty.
Hale “arrived.”
“After that 10-year reunion, I think I felt worse
After moving to New York in the mid-’90s, Hale
than when I came in because I had given so much
landed a handful of commercials and helped found
energy,” he says. “That’s just fleeting. It’s stupid. It’s
a group called The Haven. It was a place for fellow
just … you really see how shallow this is.”
Christian actors and industry professionals to
Years before he would win two Emmys, star
meet and talk about faith, art and life. Soon after
in one of television’s era-defining comedies with
his arrival in New York, he landed small guest
Arrested Development, follow that up by starring in
appearances on shows like The Sopranos and
another one of television’s era-defining comedies
Dawson’s Creek, but it was 2003 when he got his
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major break. That year, Hale was cast as the
“The whole thing is very surreal,” he says. “I’m such a big Toy Story fan.
really good couple of therapists.” “I talk about being present so much
comically codependent man-child
I was like, ‘Of course I’ll do it!’ But it
because I suck at it,” he admits. “My
Buster Bluth on Arrested Development.
really wasn’t until I saw the trailer that
default is being somewhere else. It’s
Though the show struggled to find a
it really hit me. I was like, ‘Oh wow,
more of a challenge to be where I am,
large audience in its first three seasons
I’m actually in it. I’m actually a part
so it’s a real daily choice for me.”
on Fox, it became a critical darling and
of it.’”
developed a passionate following. In
For a guy who has had the “next big
Hale’s attitude is indicative of how
thing” lined up for the past decade and
“It’s all about breathing and connecting with people and loving people and loving God … Life has gotten simpler.” 2013—seven years after its network
things have changed for him since
a half, it took him a while to learn to
TV run—Netflix revived Arrested for a
the Pepto-Bismol commercial and
actually enjoy where he’s at right now.
fourth and fifth season, and the latest
anticlimactic high school reunion.
“I meet a lot of people who have
eight episodes were released this
These days, he doesn’t spend a lot
gotten their dream and realized that
spring. According to industry sources,
of time thinking about the future or
it didn’t satisfy them the way they
it remains one of the platform’s most
dwelling on the past. He’s living in
thought it was going to satisfy them,”
popular shows.
the moment.
Hale says. “This also can be a business
His performance as Buster Bluth
where you’re always looking to the
helped launch Hale’s career as a
any measure, Hale has arrived. But
next thing. It’s never enough. Success
comedic actor with a unique knack for
according to him, “arriving” doesn’t
is insatiable, fame is insatiable.”
tightly wound worrywarts. In 2012,
have anything to do with the roles he’s
after appearing in supporting roles
landing. It’s being happy with where
on how to deal with the trappings of
in several big-budget movies, Hale
he’s at—no matter where that happens
fame, Hale has also come to lean on his
was cast as the high-strung and also
to be.
relationship with God.
comically codependent Gary Walsh in
But along with his new perspective
“I think for so much of my life, it
the hit HBO series Veep. Hale’s neurotic
was very easy to live in this fantasy,
HE IS PRESENT
turn as the scene-stealing character
of ‘What does arrived look like? What
When Hale first arrived in Hollywood,
earned him two Primetime Emmy
does making it look like?’” he says.
he was quick to defend his faith.
Awards for best supporting actor in a
“And the older I get, and the more I do
But after years in the business, and
comedy series. The final season of the
it, the more it really brings me back
struggling to find contentment in
satirical political series is airing now,
down to the simple. Really arriving
professional success, things started
and even though the current political
and making it is just being as present
to change.
world has moved well past the bounds
as I can be, and in a situation and
of satire, Hale’s presence remains an
connected to people.”
astonishment.
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And what a moment it is. By almost
That was a lesson it’s taken Hale
“The older I get, my relationship with God and my faith—I mean, it’s always been everything to me—but
And then there’s Pixar, which cast
a long time to realize, and he’s quick
there’s more of an ownership of it
Hale as the new anchor of Toy Story 4.
to note it helped him a lot to have “a
now,” he says. “God really is the only
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reason I’m doing anything I’m doing.” Hale’s ownership of his faith started to reframe the way he thought about his beliefs, especially when it came to his defensiveness. It helped him contextualize what actually “arriving” as an actor and a healthy approach to being “famous” might actually look like. “Everybody wants to be known,” he explains. “Everybody wants to be seen. And people look at fame as the ultimate being known, the ultimate being seen. In actuality, if you’re known by people who you love and love you, that’s all the known you need. And people that are really, really famous, they’re less known than a person who’s working at the mall in Birmingham, Alabama, because that person in Birmingham, Alabama, can walk into a place and, whatever ‘hello’ they get, whatever encouragement they get, whatever somebody’s giving, there are no strings attached.” KNOWN FOR GOOD
There’s a common thread that connects many of the characters Tony Hale is known for: They are fragile people with deep-seated issues. That’s exactly why Hale enjoys playing them. “I love it just because I’m a broken mess,” he says.
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“I’m a disaster. I’m a huge work
he learned before his high school
show. It’s another role he hopes to
in progress.”
reunion: Life isn’t about looking
learn from.
For him, there’s a value in showing the consequences of brokenness.
toward the next thing; it’s about being present in the moment God has you in.
He’s not against “redemptive”
“I pretty much want to be Archibald,” he says. “I want to have that perspective on life.”
entertainment, but he’s also learned
A CLEAR AND PRESENT NOW
the power of showing what happens
This fall, Netflix will air a new show
present-living animated chicken. But
when characters don’t seek or achieve
starring Tony Hale. It isn’t another
he also sees himself in Buster Bluth
redemption.
prestige sitcom. It’s a cartoon about
and Veep’s Gary, both anxiety-riddled,
a chicken. And he says it’s one of the
“broken” people just trying to stay
“It’s not like I’m against art that
Hale wants to be more like a
puts a bow on it. We all need hope,” he says. “I love redemptive work, but I also love art that really shows brokenness.” Take Veep’s main character Selina Meyer, played by Julia LouisDreyfus. Meyer’s an
“I love redemptive work, but I also love art that really shows brokenness.”
unrepentant narcissist who doesn’t mind walking all over people in an effort to
most important projects he’s ever
afloat in a world that’s uninterested
fuel her mostly selfish ambitions. For
worked on.
in them.
Hale, there’s real value in showing
In 2014, Hale co-authored a
what happens to someone like that.
children’s book called Archibald’s
so I love doing characters or stories
“Throughout the seasons, I think
“I’ve struggled with anxiety myself,
Next Big Thing. The story’s concept
that put a mirror up to society,” he
there’s been this constant theme of
comes as no surprise. Archibald, the
explains. “Even if it’s not a pretty bow
you reap what you sow,” he explains.
aforementioned chicken, learns to be
at the end, even if it’s not a redemptive
“Selina is an awful person. She’s a
fully present. He’s the personification
picture, just me feeling seen in that
very broken human being who is
(or chickenification) of a thought
work is comforting.”
all about herself and only wants the
experiment: What if instead of
most attention, the most power. She’s
looking forward to the next big thing,
when he’ll arrive, in his career or
not kind. And the fact is, that reaps
everywhere you are is a big thing?
even as a person. He’s more concerned
isolation. That reaps destruction. I
“I think of all my jobs, this has
with living in the moment, being fully
No longer is Hale worrying about
think our society, we invest in more
been …” Hale stops himself for a
present and understanding that success
and more and more. It’s not enough,
moment. “I mean, I loved Arrested.
isn’t about where you’re headed.
it’s not enough, it’s not enough. When
I loved Veep. But this is something
you give yourself, when you are kind,
that is really so special to put out
when you are loving, it reaps such a
there, because especially in today’s
better outcome.”
political climate and all the chaos in
Hale wants to make art that teaches
the world, this little chicken is seeing
people about themselves, even if that
the best in people and is super loving
lesson is about what happens to people
and positive, and ‘yes ands’ his way
who behave badly.
through life. It’s really, really life-
In his life, almost no lesson has been more important than the one
It’s about enjoying where God has you right now.
giving and fun.” Hale will voice Archibald on the
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HEAVEN & SELL ESSENTIAL OILS. YOGA PANTS. FACE CREAM. How multilevel marketing companies found the perfect mark in the American Church
BY R A C H E L G I V E N S
IF you regularly use social
Dr. Bill Keep, the interim
the growth of dozens of
media, there’s a reasonably
about the scientifically
provost of The College of
new companies that use
good chance you’ve
dubious benefits of various
New Jersey and one of the
the controversial model.
encountered it. A friend—
products from oils and
country’s leading experts
But that key element of the
maybe one you haven’t
health shakes to leggings,
on MLM companies. In fact,
business model—trust—has
talked to in years—contacts
body wraps and vitamins,
he’s been the go-to expert
also led to MLM companies
you out of the blue, wanting
but they are also promising
witness in several major
infiltrating another kind of
to catch up and then tells
something even greater: a
cases targeting multilevel
influential community:
you they have an exciting
better life. What they are
marketing companies.
the Church.
opportunity that’d be
offering is an opportunity
perfect for you. Or, maybe a
to make money, spend more
information and you
THE DOWNSTREAM
friend from church reaches
time with your family and
have to make a decision,
Multilevel marketing
out to invite you to a free
work your own hours.
there’s often an element of
companies all share
trust,” he says. “So if I trust
one thing in common: a
all but impossible to tell if
you even though I can’t
business model.
the promises being made
validate information, then
Instead of operating
can even be kept.
perhaps I’ll go ahead and
like a traditional business,
make a decision in favor of
which generates revenue
investing or joining.”
by charging customers
“class” or a meeting for some close friends. There’s a reason why details are scarce at first. There’s also a reason
Yes, they are preaching
“When you can’t validate
The problem is, it can be
“One of the concerns
why you may have gotten
here, when you talk about
messages from different,
multilevel marketing as a
unrelated people that, for
business model, is to what
been around for decades,
MLM companies have an
some reason, sound the
extent are the prospective
but the rise of social media
additional way of pulling
same. These people have
recruits able to validate
and the accelerated means
in money. They often
been trained. They’ve been
the information that
of communication it offers
use a workforce—whose
taught to make promises.
they’re being told?” says
communities have fueled
members are commission-
MLM companies have
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only—to sell products that
start messaging a Facebook
they are mostly in charge
friend they haven’t heard
of purchasing themselves
from in years.
online groups. “So I joined, and within a couple of
at a markup.
months, they asked SOUNDS LIKE MLM BUT OK
me to moderate the
the “multilevel” part of
Katie Young remembers
group,” she explains.
the business is where the
first attending multilevel
“After seeing all of the
But the claim goes that
real money can be made. Members are encouraged to recruit other people to join as salespeople. If you recruit a salesperson, you then get
“More than 97 percent have made unsubstantiated income claims.”
a commission from every wholesale product they purchase and a
marketing meetings with
stories and seeing all
commission from every
her mom. They were
of the experiences, I
wholesale item purchased
always hosted by women
was like, ‘Wow, these
by anyone they recruit. The
in her church.
companies are terrible
more people you convince
“I was pretty young,
to join, the more who will
but because it was church
be in your “downstream.”
women, I didn’t really
Theoretically, the people
people’s lives.’” What she saw was
realize what was going
people “investing”
percent have made or are
at the top of the pyramid-
on,” she says. “I never
their time, money
making–either directly or
shaped business model can
would have assumed that
and relationships into
through their distributors–
make a lot of money (as
it was any sort of scam,
businesses that failed to
false and unsubstantiated
long as their downstream
because it was like, ‘Well,
live up the promises they
income claims to promote
constantly recruits others).
these are other members
made. Many of the people
the companies’ business
However, as Keep explains,
of the church. These are
lost money—and friends.
opportunities.”
the vast majority of
intelligent people. They’re
participants fail to make
not going to join a company
by the group Truth in
her to take a deep dive
any money, and most lose
that’s trying to scam them
Advertising that found
into the world of MLM.
money because of the
out of their money.’”
how flimsy many of the
Today, she runs a popular
Her mother didn’t
promises made by the
Facebook group whose
have to purchase and basic
end up buying into the
companies are. Based
mission is to be a place to
principles like market
“opportunity,” but later,
on an investigation of
“discuss and learn about
saturation. If a church
after Young went to school
every company on the
multilevel marketing
already has one person
to become an esthetician,
Direct Selling Association
companies (MLMs) and
selling oils, guess what
she started noticing
[the trade association
their poor business
happens when four more
something. “Consultants”
affiliated with many MLM
structures, obnoxious
people start selling them?
from a popular MLM
companies] membership
marketing practices and all
The supply far outpaces the
makeup company kept
list, Truth in Advertising
around awful nature.” The
demand, and people have to
inviting her to their
“found that more than 97
group has nearly 100,000
amount of products they
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… They’re ruining
Keep points to research
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TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE? A LOOK AT THE PROMISES MLM COMPANIES MAKE There’s a reason it’s called multilevel marketing. Here’s a look at three kinds of messages MLM companies use to attract people.
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H E A LT H A N D S C I E N C E
Many MLM consultants make unsubstantiated health promises. The group Truth in Advertising found that most of the companies selling nutritional products “have distributors marketing their products with illegal health claims.”
members. She also hosts
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I N CO M E A N D P R O F I TS
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Though it’s technically possible to make substantial money with an MLM company, according to an FTC report, “less than one in 100 MLM participants make a clear profit, and at least 99 out of 100 participants actually lose money.”
A major promise MLM companies make is that participants can set their own hours and spend more time at home. However, that doesn’t add up to the truth that 90% of participants quit within the first five years.
members of the Church
allow multilevel marketing
the Sounds Like MLM But
multilevel marketing
of Jesus Christ of Latter-
companies to flourish in
OK podcast.
growth based on affinity
Day Saints. In fact, there
them. But they also stand to
groups,” Keep says. He
are more than a dozen
lose more than just money
stories of MLM companies
specifically points to
major MLM companies
when the companies they
that have ruined the lives
“women with children
headquartered in the state,
welcome in start to make
of individuals—oftentimes,
at home” and “people
and they bring in billions
promises that they have
young women.
with shared values like a
of dollars in revenue.
no way of keeping. They
church group” as primary
Utah now has more MLM
may be innocent and even
opening experience being
examples. In fact, MLM
companies per capita than
well-intentioned, but that
in the group, and seeing
thrives in religious
any other state in the U.S.
doesn’t change the results.
all of people’s experiences
communities, where trust
and seeing what these
and relationships run
backgrounds are often the
of trust. And for churches,
companies had done to
deep—and promises made
same. And, unfortunately,
that is something that can’t
everyone,” she says.
are expected to be kept.
so are their outcomes.
simply be bought and sold.
Every day, she hears new
“It was just a really eye-
But there’s a reason
“We have often seen
T I M E A N D FA M I LY
The members’
MLM is built on the idea
Though MLM companies
why the stories Young sees
have more recently spread
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are often similar. It’s the
to evangelical circles,
Churches, with their tight-
same reason why MLM
their biggest hotbed is
knit communities and trust-
is so popular in church
Utah, where more than 60
dependent hierarchies,
communities.
percent of residents are
are perfectly poised to
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TARAJI P. H E N S O N The star of Empire on how her faith has made her a better actor
M
any of Taraji P.
YOU’VE PLAYED A WIDE
all in my work. A lot of my
Henson’s char-
RANGE OF CHARACTERS.
characters come from des-
acters are not,
HOW DOES THAT DIVERSITY
perate, traumatic places, so
That’s right. It’s a real under-
as she would
SERVE YOUR WORK AS
you need something to hold
standing of love because a
put it, “moral-
AN ACTOR?
onto morally, and because
lot of these characters aren’t
[sometimes] I play morally
morally correct. You have to
ly correct.” Her wide-rang-
PEOPLE’S SHOES.
ing career has placed her
I love when I’m a character
correct characters, there has
find the humanity in them so
in the shoes of a ruthless
that takes me away from my-
to be religion in me for peo-
the audience can empathize.
record mogul (Cookie Lyons
self. I tap into things I didn’t
ple to trust that.
And that’s in life. That’s how
on Empire), a sympathetic
know about myself. I tap into
sex worker (Hustle & Flow)
how closely I pay attention
THAT MORAL FOUNDATION
and a conflicted-but-none-
to people. I people-watch all
CAN BE HOPEFUL FOR
theless-effective
PEOPLE, TOO.
you change perspectives on a certain group of people. HOW DOES BEST OF
assassin
the time. I’m the weirdo in
(Proud Mary), just to name
the restaurant looking over,
a few. While these types of
trying to figure out if those
Absolutely. For me, acting is
complex
often
people are on a first date,
very spiritual. You’re letting
overcome the actors who in-
if they’re newlyweds, that’s
these characters use your
This movie was right on
habit them, Henson deploys
me. It’s amazing how much
body as a vessel. You have to
mark and right on time.
a unique approach.
of it sticks. I don’t have a
surrender your insecurities
We’re in a tumultuous time
She is an outspoken Chris-
notebook, but I collect it all
to the truth of these char-
in history right now, and
tian, and while one might ex-
in my head, and when it
acters. You can’t judge. You
it looks like we don’t have
characters
ENEMIES ADD TO THAT CONVERSATION?
pect that to mean she sets her personal worldview aside in order to play dark roles, she actually does the opposite. Henson says her faith is the foundation of all her roles, regardless of genre or character, and is why she can
“For me, acting is very spiritual. You’re letting these characters use your body as a vessel.”
bring regal power to Empire, poise to Hidden Figures and honest depth to The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
comes time to use it, it amaz-
actually have to think like
hope. It’s a timely story. We
This spring, Henson plays
es me how it comes out so
Jesus and love them, and if
need it, and that’s why art is
civil rights activist Ann At-
quick. Oh, I had that in the
you love them, the audience
so important. That’s how we
water in The Best of Enemies,
storage bank? I didn’t know!
will have empathy. They’ll
learn and grow.
have a transformation and
I take my job as an artist
a film based on the real-life 1971 instance when Atwa-
HOW HAS YOUR WORK URGED
cathartic moment because
very seriously. It’s a respon-
ter worked with a Ku Klux
YOU TO THINK ABOUT FAITH
you love the character un-
sibility. If I’m not afraid of a
Klan leader to desegregate
OR SPIRITUALITY?
conditionally.
character, then I won’t take
Henson spoke with REL-
I’m very spiritual in life,
IT’S BEEN SAID ACTING IS
I’m not going to be trans-
EVANT about how acting
period. I don’t do anything
THE MOST LOVING JOB YOU
formed, and if I’m not trans-
helps her communicate her
without talking to God first.
CAN HAVE BECAUSE YOU
formed, then the audience
vision for the world.
That’s just who I am, and it’s
HAVE TO WALK IN OTHER
won’t be.
schools in North Carolina.
the job because that means
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Hillsong United They defined the sound of worship for a generation but got disillusioned in the process. Here’s how Joel Houston rediscovered his passion and got the band back together.
BY J E S S E C A R E Y
W
hen Joel Houston arrived at the dilapidated house in a
remote part of the Scottish Highlands, for the first time in a while, something just felt right. “I see this beautiful kind of Scottish farmhousetype deal with rubble everywhere and windows knocked out and walls torn down,” he remembers. “I just felt like I got a picture of what was happening.” It was late 2017, and just months before, he and his Hillsong United bandmates had wrapped another stadium worship tour in promotion of their charttopping album Wonder. The band got back on their tour bus one night, and the mood seemed … off. “I just looked at everybody’s faces, and I said, ‘You know what? Maybe we should just take some time off,’” he remembers. “We all looked at each other and nodded our heads,” says fellow singer Jonathon Douglass (who goes by JD). Houston remembers the moment well. “Everybody kind of started crying,” he says. After years of touring, most of the band was burned out and wanted to spend time with their families. Taya Gaukrodger, one of United’s primary vocalists,
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remembers it vividly, too. “I
myself out of a certain place
spend some time talking
United has had since the
remember I started crying
that was a little confusing
through his struggles.
release of their first album
because I was just kind of
for me,” he says before
Arriving at the farmhouse
two decades ago. Yes,
craving time at home,” she
pausing. “I don’t know what
was a moment of revelation.
they’ve sold millions of
says. “I opened my hands,
other words to put on it.”
put my face in my hands, and
“I saw something
Before the band’s
albums, racked up more
inspiring for the first time
than a billion streams
I just was like, ‘I need to tell
extended break, Houston
given the season that I was
and consistently sell out
you these are happy tears.’”
had written a book. After
in, in that moment,” he says.
stadiums around the world.
sending a draft to his
“I felt like I got a picture of
But the real measure
himself, Houston wanted
publishers, he remembers
my life.”
of their impact isn’t in
to go home and take a
being at home in New York
A husband and father
On the outside, the house
traditional music industry
“I just found myself in a place where, let’s be real, I kind of lost the wonder.” –Joel Houston break too, but that wasn’t
City when the edits came
was rundown, worn by
metrics. It’s in how many
his only motive. There was
back in the mail. It should
weather and time. It was
people sing songs that
something bothering him.
have been an exciting
a shell of what it had once
Houston and his bandmates
moment.
been. But if you looked
have written in church
hard enough, you could see
services every single week.
Like everyone else in the group, he was tired and in need of an extended time off the road. But what he
he says.
that with a little work and
Houston had questions
A quick recap: United
care, it could be restored. It
started as the youth
was experiencing wasn’t
about his future, his
could, for all Houston knew,
ministry band of Australia-
just burnout.
band and even his faith.
be even more stunning than
based megachurch Hillsong
Where does the person a
the place it’d been before.
in the late ’90s. Joel
place where, let’s be real,
generation has turned to
“Sometimes, if you’re
Houston—whose parents
I kind of lost the wonder,”
for worship go when he’s
going to create something
Brian and Bobbie are the
Houston remembers.
no longer feeling inspired?
beautiful, you’ve got to
founders and pastors of the
Who does a leader ask when
get through the process of
church—has been a part of
songs sung by millions of
he has questions about
reconstruction,” Houston
the band since the beginning,
people around the world
faith? Houston needed help.
says. “And that involves
and he officially took over as
was losing sight of what
That’s what led him to
deconstruction and all the
its leader in 2003.
“I just found myself in a
The man who’d written
had inspired him in the first
that rundown farmhouse in
place. It’s still difficult for
the Scottish countryside.
him to talk about. “I’d spent the previous couple years trying to write
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“I never opened them,”
rest of it.”
At the time, the church was best known for their
ALL THE REST OF IT
primary band, Hillsong
of a friend to go to Scotland,
It’s hard to overstate
Worship. Led by Darlene
get away from things and
the influence Hillsong
Zschech, their music
He’d taken the invitation
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Taya Gaukrodger has become one of Hillsong United’s core members.
became a global church fixture with mega-hits like “Shout to the Lord,” a song that was sung in more than 30 million churches. Initially, United’s live albums were packaged with Hillsong Worship albums, and starting in 1999, they began releasing annual live albums that featured rotating line-ups of singers around Houston. But something shifted in 2007 with the release of their first studio album, All of the Above. Not only did it hit the top spot on the Christian charts, it climbed all the way to the No. 60 spot on the Billboard Top 200 chart. Not long after, Houston and the rest of United’s influence began to outpace the parent band. The song “Oceans (Where Feet May Fail)” from 2013’s Zion went double platinum and sat at the top of the Billboard Hot Christian Songs chart for a record 61 weeks. Like other songs from United, “Oceans” is a Sunday worship music staple—but even that only scratches the surface of their church service influence. Hillsong Church has a policy that says “the rights connected to having a band play our songs in a worship service is exempt from live performance licensing.” Their policy also states, “Our songs and resources are created
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with the express purpose
God, can be a really
of enhancing worship,
difficult process at times
therefore, you are
to find the balance in,”
welcome to use our
Houston says. “I thought
songs, CDs, DVDs and
I’d dealt with that stuff
Split Tracks as part of
when I was 19; and I
your services with our
thought I’d dealt with
blessing.”
it when I was 25; and I
That means any
thought I’d dealt with it
church, anywhere in the
when I was 31. And I’ve
world, can play songs
got to this period of like,
from a Hillsong band free
‘Man, this is still a thing?’”
of charge—and millions do every Sunday morning.
Back in 2017, the pressure of being a face
Today, the church
of a global worship
has four primary acts:
movement—while
Hillsong Worship,
still dealing with
Hillsong United, Hillsong
the questions many
Young & Free (geared
Christians face as they
toward Gen Z listeners)
grow in their faith—
and Hillsong Kids.
finally hit a breaking
However, it’s United that
point when Houston left
consistently tops global
for the rundown cabin
music charts and sells out
in Scotland.
stadium worship concerts
“At the time, I just felt
around the globe. And
this giant hole when it
at the center of it all is
came to inspiration,”
39-year-old Houston.
he says. “I still felt like I
He’s been a part of
loved God. I was digging
United since he was a
deep into the things of
teenager, so maybe it’s
God, but when it came to
not surprising that the
stuff that had naturally
weight of influencing the
driven me—which is
global culture of worship
the creative and ideas
music was taking a toll
of the future, and
on him. Maybe it’s even
wrestling with that kind
understandable.
of dissatisfaction that’s
“For me, the tension of
the driving force toward
always trying to play that balance between being somebody people look up to, and the whole time, trying to do this in a way where you’re trying to draw people’s attention toward
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creating new things—I hadn’t felt it for a while. I just felt empty.” His friend—the one who invited him to Scotland— gave him some advice: Lean into the uncertainty and do what you’ve always done. Write music. “He said, ‘God set you up for this season and every season like it. He’s given you the gifts, the ammunition, to try to get your way out of this,’” Houston says. “ I was like, ‘OK, those things are a story and metaphor, songs and writings—the very things that you do naturally that God has given you—that’s going to help you see through to the other side.” He got up in the middle of the darkest crisis of faith he’d ever experienced, went outside in the cold Scotland air, and started writing a song. ALL THINGS NEW
In the months that followed his time in Scotland, Houston did the one thing he felt like would get him out of his spiritual rut: He continued to write music. Eventually, after more than a year away from the band, he From left to right: Matt Cocker, Jonathon Douglass, Taya Gaukrodger, Joel Houston, Ben Hastings and Jad Gillies
went to visit Hillsong in Sydney where he met up with the rest of the group. For two weeks, they hung out and played through the dozens of new songs together, trying to decide which ones would make their next album. Gaukrodger remembers hearing the new songs for the first time. “I was
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“I don’t think any one of us had a plan of how this was going to look or how this was going to turn out.”
like, ‘This is so raw; it’s
It felt like the beginning of
in the future is that we
way people think inside the
unpolished; it’s very real,’”
something new.
find the means for it to
Church,” Houston says.
she says. “We’re going back
In the middle of the
open up opportunity for
Despite the season
to the roots of United and
worship service, back in
others in the same space,”
of doubt and the state
back to what it was about.”
the city where it all started,
Houston says. “What I mean
of things in the world,
Houston had a revelation.
by that is, it’s not limited
Houston has hope that the
to—certainly not me—or
thing United has helped
the middle of this night we
just the few people who
fuel will inspire a new kind
were singing these songs
represent it now. It could
of worship movement.
releases, this would not be a
and the crowd was singing,
become something that is
One that thinks outside the
polished studio album. This
and it just dawned on me,
more embracing of a whole
boxes to which the Church
would be a live worship
what God has done in a
lot of other people.”
has constrained itself.
album in front of the people
year,” Houston remembers.
who’d been there from the
“It was basically 12 months
a new collection of songs
new in us all, and that’s
beginning—since before
to the day that we recorded
that are unlike anything
not exclusive for Hillsong
the stadiums and platinum
it that I was in Scotland at
they’ve ever sung. They
United,” says Douglass. “It’s
awards—the people who’d
rock bottom. And the very
aren’t songs written at the
something we believe God is
been with Houston before
songs that started there
peak of personal successes
doing around the world and
and during his season
were here being kind of
or spiritual highs. These are
is for anyone who wants to
of doubt.
recorded in this really
songs written in the valley.
be a part of it.”
Douglass says, “I think the fruit of that break is heard and felt in the songs.” Unlike their recent
There—not in front
“I remember basically in
They are going out with
special setting for us.”
of a huge stadium of
These are songs about the
“God is doing something
When asked if he’s
grace that sustains not just
optimistic about the future
fans, but a church full of
ALL IN
when God seems near, but
of the Church, Houston says,
worshippers—Hillsong
This summer, Hillsong
when He feels far away.
“I absolutely am. Especially
United began to sing.
United will strike out in
And to hear Houston tell
what could possibly be their
ways God used United to
it, something strange
last major world tour—at
put a voice to things that a
certainty. He wanted to know
happened. The same group
the very least, it will be the
generation was feeling, but
what would come next. He
of musicians who’d sat on
last time with the current
now he also sees how others
wanted to understand how
a bus weeping together in
version of United. They’ll
are coming after him to lead
God worked.
exhaustion months before
be singing songs from a
the Church into new places
were now singing like they
brand-new album People.
he’d never imagined.
hadn’t in a long time.
And though in some ways,
“It felt like we were
Houston can see the
“I’ve talked to these
the mystic in me.” The old Joel wanted
Now he’s learned to be content understanding how God is. He doesn’t need
things feel as pure and as
15-year-old kids, and
to understand why grace
going back to the root of
passionate as they did back
they just think differently
exists, he just needs to
what United came out of,”
at the very beginning, there
about everything,” he says.
recognize that it does.
Gaukrodger says. “Which
will be other ways in which
“Hopefully, they’re going
“Grace is so nonsensical
was unpolished. People
this is uncharted territory
to take a small leap out of
it doesn’t play into the facts,
passionate about getting
for the band.
whatever they’ve seen in
the narrative or the truth as
us.” But he hopes they’ll
we see it,” he says.
together with one accord
“I don’t think any one of
of worshipping Jesus and
us had a plan of how this
also understand that there’s
seeing people impacted by
was going to look or how
no limit.
the presence.”
this was going to turn out,”
“It just felt like kind of coming full circle,” Houston
Gaukrodger says. And now that
“I pray that we always for all its imperfections,” he
uncertainty is something
says. “But they break all the
giant reset.”
Houston is OK with.
right rules and smash all the
“The big hope for United
good as the tension.”
see the beauty in the Church
says. “Like a big reset, a It didn’t feel like the end.
“Even the way music works, the resolve is only as
stereotypes and change the
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H OW TO G E T I N TO T H E B E S T M E N TA L H E A LT H S H A P E O F YO U R L I F E Seven experts on how to whip your brain into the best shape it’s ever been. BY T Y L E R D A S W I C K
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hat if we viewed
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area of need. This isn’t a catch-all, but
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it could be the right first step for you.
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we shore up our
Whether it’s finances bringing you
But first: No matter what change you want to make, have grace with yourself. Part of mental health is
minds the same way we take care of
down, a worry over the future or
being able to engage with the process
our bodies?
a more personal struggle, stronger
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mental health means taking the right
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REDUCE YOUR ANXIETY
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hard and vulnerable? Yes! But telling the truth helps us build
TRAINER: SARAH MAE,
relationships where people
A U T H O R O F TH E
can really know us, and this is
C O M P L I C AT E D H E A RT
when we experience real love
REINFORCE YOUR FAITH
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TRAINER: BARNABAS PIPER, A U T H O R O F TH E C U R I O U S C H R I ST I A N
from others.” 1. Source your worries. “Look
for the weed that leads to the deeper root. The weed is your anxiety-filled reaction to something, and the root is where [you] learned to have
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FIND FINANCIAL PEACE OF MIND
1. Write Scripture by hand. “Writing
does something to imprint words on my mind and heart in a deeper way.
TRAINER: CALLIE BRIESE,
It slows me down and focuses my
E X T E R N A L R E L AT I O N S
mind so I have to look at each letter
D I R E C TO R , T H R I V E N T
of the truths God has given me. I use
that reaction. What’s making you
a journal and notecards. Either allows
anxious, angry or depressed? Start
1. Start paying yourself. “When
me to revisit the passages and cling
there.”
you’re budgeting, commit a recurring
to them.”
2. Try this 15-minute worship
payment to a personal savings
2. Don’t skip Ecclesiastes. “For
playlist. “When negative voices enter
account. You can use this fund
hurting people, loud praises and
my mind, I put on worship music.
depending on your needs: emergency
bright optimism can often seem
Here are my go-to songs: ‘I Will
savings, money for a vacation or a
overwhelming or unrealistic, but
Never Leave You Alone’ by Paul Zach
way to help prepare for retirement.
Ecclesiastes speaks to us in our
(featuring Liz Vice), ‘Give Me a Song’
If possible, have this money
unhappiness and reminds us that
by Will Reagan, ‘Take Back’ by Will
automatically withdrawn from your
while so much of this life is ‘vanity of
Reagan and ‘Simple Gospel (Live)’ by
paycheck so you don’t miss it.”
vanities,’ there is a true God we can
2. For advice, turn to Proverbs.
trust in no matter what. The book’s
“Proverbs 11:24 says, ‘The world of
blunt reality reframes expectations,
“Ask yourself some questions about
the generous gets larger and larger;
wipes away false hopes and leaves
what’s the most important trait in a
the world of the stingy gets smaller
us with perspective on what we can
United Pursuit.” 3. Find a comfortable counselor.
expect from this life and from God.”
If you meet with [a mental health professional] and it’s not a good fit, it’s OK to find someone else.
3. Memorize this
prayer. “‘I believe; help my unbelief.’ This short prayer from Mark 9 is an expression of clinging to God and acknowledging He is worthy of trust. It is an expression of need and
mental health professional for you:
and smaller.’ If we manage money in
a cry for help. Jesus will help our
‘Who will I be most comfortable with?
a way that is only self-serving, we will
unbelief and give us what we need to
Someone conservative, someone
become lonely and isolated. But if we
have hope in Him.”
less conservative? A lay person, or
manage money in a generous
someone with a higher education
way—planning for the future
level?’ If you meet with someone
and sharing our treasure
and it’s not a good fit, it’s OK to find
with others—we flourish
someone else.”
personally and in community
4. Share the truth. “Telling the
with each other.”
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BUILD STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS TR AI N E R: BAR BAR A B ROWN TAY LO R , E P I S C O PA L P R I E S T, AUTHOR, PROFESSOR
truth is always empowering. Is it
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1. Mandate in-person connection.
your ambition is for impact, reward
Let yourself smile next to friends
“Decide how often you will enter into
or challenge, you can grow your
or family in pictures. Stand in front
physical contact with other people
ambition with each new job or title.”
of oceans and monuments and let
2. Create circles of feedback.
(Once a week? Every two weeks?)
someone snap the picture. Don’t
and make a list of [activities] on
“Institute meetings and gather
delete it. Keep it on your phone or
paper slips—going for a walk with a
groups of people with no particular
post it on Instagram without apology.
neighbor, inviting a friend to coffee,
agenda and no reporting relationship
Courage breeds courage. We are
volunteering. Put the slips in a mason
to yourself. Talk to them and
facing down the lie that our bodies
jar, and every week pull a slip from
ask questions and create a safe
are not worth being seen.”
the jar. Then do what’s on the slip—
environment where you actually
no excuses!”
want to know the answers.”
2. Understand the powers at
3. Stop failing, start making
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play. “When a congregation is at
mistakes. “The term ‘failure’ is
war over the color of the carpet,
problematic because it looms
that’s not about interior decorating;
large for people, but mistake-
it’s about who feels powerful and
making is part of life. After a
who doesn’t. It’s easier to criticize
mistake, pause. Ask what you would
routine. “Improving our minds and
than create, which is why knee-jerk
do differently, and learn the lesson.”
hearts after trauma is not a quick
criticism is such a cheap shot. A community that wants to stay healthy will cultivate generosity, humility and unselfishness.” 3. Know when you’ve made
a true connection. “Is there
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TRAI N ER: B ECCA STEVENS , A U T H O R O F LO V E H E A L S
1. Find peace inside your
fix, so we need to take small daily steps that offer us peace, and do those things consistently. It could be exercise,
TRAI N ER: N I CO LE M O RGAN ,
taking up a creative art form, prayer,
C H R I S T I A N FAT- A C C E P TA N C E
cooking or making lists. Find changes
A D VO C AT E A N D A U T H O R O F
that encourage healthy living.”
FAT A N D FA I T H F U L
give-and-take in your conversations?
2. Go to the pros. “If your vision
has gone blurry, you need a doctor
Are you able to be silent together for
1 . Consider all bodies. “When you can
to get glasses. So when your life
short periods of time without feeling
see the goodness of every single body
is unmanageable as it is, seek
anxious? Are you able to make each
in the world, it will make the journey
professional help! [For mental health],
other laugh? Have you found ways to
to loving your own body smoother.
some resources to explore include
play together as well as work on your
Pay attention to your neighbors and
the sexual assault center in your
relationship? When you’re in conflict
push back when someone makes a
community, the 12 step rooms of AA,
with one another, are you able to own
fat joke or says something racist or
a guide to licensed mental health
up to your role in the upset? These
xenophobic.”
professionals or your pastor.”
are good signs you are in a nurturing relationship.”
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2. Find support on social media—
3. Repeat this prayer. “Most
really! “Look for body-positive
gentle and merciful Creator, your
hashtags like #AllBodiesAreGoodBodies
love was with me over the hard and
or #FatAcceptance and find accounts
holy ground I have walked. I pray
by people who show up in their
to feel that love surround me today,
marginalized bodies and live life with
so I never forget its healing power.
T R A I N E R : C A R LY F I O R I N A ,
purpose and intent. You can find body
Amen.”
CEO AN D 2016 PRESI D ENTIAL
positive influences within specific
C A N D I D AT E
genres as well. I enjoy hiking, and was
EMPOWER YOURSELF AT WORK
thrilled to discover #UnlikelyHikers.” 1. Tie your goals to a purpose, not
3. Be intentional about seeing
a plan. “Following a plan is always
yourself. “Look at yourself in the
going to be a disappointment. If
mirror in various states of dress.
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the japanese T H E house Amber Bain is wrestling her demons in public—and finding healing along the way.
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TYLER HUCKABEE
A
mber Bain is not
that ascent is just a happy byproduct
given to distance.
of her own desire to create some-
In her songwriting
thing beautiful, personal and real.
and even in conversation,
there’s
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a fearless intimacy
When she was young, Bain and her
that isn’t overbearing, but is studi-
family spent a week in Devon, En-
ous and deliberate. She’s generous
gland, where they stayed in a house
with her honesty, and that’s inten-
owned by Kate Winslet modeled af-
tional. She’s hoping that by being
ter traditional Japanese tea houses.
honest in her music, she’ll eventual-
She posed as a boy that week and
ly be able to figure out a little more
even netted a childhood crush from
about who she is.
a neighbor girl who was heartbro-
“I don’t like to confront issues,”
ken when she learned she’d been
she says. “So I guess there is some-
duped. The experience had an im-
thing therapeutic about writing a
pact on Bain—it’s why the house
song and confronting it, but I don’t
became her band name—and she’s
enjoy the process. I don’t feel good
been trying to figure out her identity
afterward.” She compares writing a
ever since. She’s made some prog-
song to exercising—not particularly
ress on that front, and says she’s “be-
enjoyable in the moment but full of
ing more frank.”
long-term benefits for those able to stick with it long enough.
“I think that’s just reflecting who I am as a human: being more open
“Everything hurts afterward and
with myself and with people,” she
you feel like s***,” she says. “But in
says. “That’s showing through my
the long run you know you’re doing
songwriting rather than me going,
good for yourself. That’s the only
‘Right, that’s it, I’m going to start
way I could be able to describe it.”
writing songs that are really open.’
And Bain is doing good. As The Japanese House, she has achieved a
I never made that decision. I think it just reflects me.”
rare feat—she became an exceeding-
This idea of “reflection” comes
ly buzzy artist without a full-length
up a lot with Bain. She has a keen
album to her name. Instead, a pair
sense of how external and internal
of 2015 EPs immediately cemented
things interact, and how often those
her as an artist to watch. Over the
things are more indebted to each
last few years, she released a slew of
other than we think. Good at Falling
other singles and headlined a couple
is a reflection of an extraordinarily
of international tours—even open-
difficult season in Bain’s life—one in
ing for her friends and frequent col-
which she was forced to reckon with
laborators The 1975.
a number of very difficult realities
And now, in 2019, she’s finally released her first full-length album
about the world around her and the one inside of her.
Good at Falling. The album, full of
She says that’s part of the reason
the sorts of burbling melodies and
it took such a long time for her to
lush, dreamy production that put
release a full-length album. “Obvi-
her on the map, isn’t likely to slow
ously, it would have been better had
her ascent. But to hear her tell it,
I released it quicker, but I guess I
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had to wait that long,” she says. “Those
ing that you get when you’re hungover.
a much broader thing
things needed to happen.”
You wake up [and think], ‘Well, I’ve ru-
that infuses into the
ined my life and everyone hates me. I’m
way that you think
just being crap.’”
about
“It’s all about relationships,” she says, of what things needed to happen.
yourself.
Be-
cause it’s every day. It’s not just my hang-
Maybe that’s a way in which writing is therapeutic: Other people’s reactions make me feel better about my life.
over. When you do something
enough,
it becomes you completely
and
engulfs
your frame of mind.” Dealing with these things
hasn’t
been
easy for Bain. She says she’s not a fan of confrontation. “I don’t like to deal with things head-on very often
when
they’re
particularly painful,” she says. “When I go to therapy, I don’t feel “Whether that’s my relationship with
But then she realized the truth: “Ev-
catharsis or any sort
someone else or my relationship with
eryone didn’t hate me. I hated me,” she
of release afterward.
myself. And as I was writing the album,
says. “I was making myself feel like that
Like, I feel worse.”
my relationship with myself complete-
every day and I’m creating ideas in my
ly changed. Or, at least, I acknowledged
head of what people thought of me.”
that I had to change it.”
But she does go, and she says she’s been fortunate to have friends around
BOTTLE IT UP
her who support taking mental health
growth has been learning that the feel-
Bain says she started to seriously exam-
seriously. “Being conscious of your
ings she used to attribute to other peo-
ine her relationship with alcohol over
mental health and caring for yourself
ple were actually things she was feeling
the course of making the latest album,
is definitely a respected thing within
within herself. “I acknowledged I actu-
and what she discovered wasn’t pret-
my group of people,” she says. “I under-
ally probably hated myself quite a lot,”
ty. She says she “wouldn’t say I started
stand that in a lot of groups that’s not
she says. “There’s a song on the album
having an alcohol problem,” but ac-
the case and I think I’m really lucky to
called ‘Everybody Hates Me’ which,
knowledges that there was an “ongo-
have people like that. I always feel like
when I originally wrote it, was basical-
ing issue” that she calls “severe.” And
I would be judged more for not taking
ly a tribute to alcohol because the feel-
that issue led to a string of mornings in
care of myself than doing so.”
Bain says a big part of her recent
which she’d wake up and
G OOD AT FALLING Bain’s wildly anticipated debut charts a journey through a tough season.
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DEALING THROUGH SONGWRITING
her actions.
If this all sounds heavy, well, it is.
“I’ve got a headache and
Bain’s most recent collection of songs
I feel bad and sad, but I’m
deals with mental health, the death of a
anxious
people’s
friend and the painful end of a serious
opinion of me,” she says.
relationship. It’s a lot for one album,
“But when you’re doing
and she admits that traveling the world
that every day, it becomes
and singing about all this every night
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You can feel this inquisitive assurance on songs like “Maybe You’re the Reason,” when Bain grapples with a deteriorating relationship. “I keep looking for something, even though I know that it’s not there,” she sings. “Every time I try to figure it out / You’re the only thing I can think about.” Who hasn’t been there? FLOWS AND PROGRESSION AND BLOCKS
While this album was undoubtedly the product of a difficult time, Bain doesn’t necessarily chart her life in simple little chapters. “I don’t think I think of my life in terms of like eras,” she says. “I don’t think I’m suddenly going to write the next album and be a different person.” So she acknowledges the last few months have been difficult, but it’s not as simple as calling it a difficult season. “Maybe I do feel like that time is over,” she says. “I don’t know. I kind of hope it’s not. I like the feeling. Slow flows and progression and blocks. You know what can be “quite exhausting,” but she rec-
such detail, but it’s not exactly ground-
ognizes there might be a benefit to let-
breaking,” she says. “I think the reason
I mean?” This is how Bain writes and this is
ting it out, too. Eventually.
the people that do connect with it con-
the kind of art she creates. A lot of the
“I think when I first write I don’t feel
nect with it is because it’s completely
feelings she’s expressing are difficult to
the initial effect of it being therapeu-
honest and natural what I’m talking
summarize. They don’t make for easy
tic,” she says. “I don’t feel that at all.
about. It’s not contrived.”
conversation. But her skilled expres-
But I think there must be some positive
And that connection, while obvious-
sionist language evokes the right mood
effect in the long run after having ex-
ly helpful for fans who feel a little less
without landing on the exact dictionary
pressed something.”
alone when they listen to The Japanese
definition. And it helps her, too.
Plus, the amount of connection
House, is also helpful for Bain. The fact
“Maybe it’s good that I’m forced
Bain’s been able to make with her fans
that people can connect with the things
to deal with a lot of stuff throughout
would suggest that no matter how diffi-
she’s singing about are a reminder that
songwriting,” she muses. “So whether
cult it might be to work through these
her experience is universal.
it’s painful or not, it’s probably better
emotions and experiences, she’s not doing it alone.
“Maybe that’s a way in which writing is therapeutic: Other people’s reactions
“Everyone I know has been heart-
to it make me feel better about my life,”
broken or had some sort of existential
she says. “Everything is just about fig-
crisis or has suffered depression or,
uring stuff out. No one really knows
like, hated themselves. I think maybe
what’s going on. We’re all questioning
it’s rare that people talk about them in
everything.”
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or almost all her life, things between Katie
me and loves me and wouldn’t ever stand for this is now
Loveland and her father, Hal, were good. He’d
saying ‘Well, I’ve been in locker rooms.’”
been a high school teacher and coach, and al-
“It kind of devastated me,” she says. “Of all the people, I
though Katie was in his class, it didn’t create the
thought my dad would understand.”
tension some people have around their parents doing double duty as their teachers. “We actually had a great time,” Love-
THE RIFT
land says. “I think both of us consider that time when I was
This rift between Katie and her father isn’t unique. The
in high school as a highlight. It was pretty great.”
two-party system in the United States has always been a
That close relationship continued after graduation. A little
source of tension, but the divide has widened in recent
while after she and her husband had moved to their home
years as the political has become more personal. Old de-
in Helena, Montana, Hal joined them to be closer to his new
bates about topics like tax plans and foreign aid have been
grandchildren. And things remained strong, although the
replaced by intensely personal arguments about the rights
first seeds of a divide had been planted after Hal sent Katie
of immigrants, abortion, the ongoing realities of racism and,
to Summit Ministries—a Chuck Colson-led seminar designed
yes, the aftermath of #MeToo. And as these conversations get
to train students in apologetics with a decidedly conserva-
more personal, they get more heated—often leading to seri-
tive bent. Hal says he was “pretty excited about” sending
ous generational divides that leave both sides hurt, confused
Katie to the program but admits that “I don’t think it turned
and strained.
out the best.”
Lynn Vavreck, a political science professor at the Univer-
“Francis Schaeffer says one of the worst things we can do
sity of California-Los Angeles, conducted a study in 2016 to
for our kids is ask them to be conservative,” Hal says. “Chris-
see just how sharply political tensions had risen. She polled
tianity is revolutionary. I really believe that and I think that
Americans on whether or not they preferred their son or
seminar caused both my children to really start questioning
daughter marry someone who shared their political views.
a lot.”
Sixty percent of Democrats said they would, as did 63% of
Whether or not the Summit seminar was to blame, Katie
Republicans.
currently runs a private sector consulting firm that works
When Gallup asked the same question in 1958, only 33% of
with a lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle and has
Democrats and 25% of Republicans said they cared. Slowly
two master’s degrees: one in social work and one in public
but surely, the politicization of our culture is changing how
health. She says she’s heavily involved in politics and while
we think about who we can have a relationship with and
her current views aren’t as conservative as the ones she was
how willing we are to break outside of our ideological bub-
raised with, there wasn’t any significant elevation of tension
bles. Those bubbles have thicker walls now than they used
with her father.
to, and it’s created gaps that can feel impossible to bridge—
Until the 2016 presidential election.
even with family members who once seemed close.
Katie says she’d experienced sexual harassment both at
Dr. Alice Boyes is the author of The Healthy Mind Toolkit.
her workplace and her church, so the infamous Access Hol-
She says the divide is significant because we overestimate
lywood tape in which now-President Donald Trump boasts
how self-evident our own beliefs are.
about sexually assaulting women triggered some particular-
“People tend to overestimate how many other people
ly painful memories for her. But when she raised the issue to
agree with them and share their outlook,” she says. “If you’re
her father, he defended Trump’s statements.
a libertarian, then you likely think more people are libertar-
“I got so upset,” Katie says. “It really upset me because it
ians than is reality. This thinking bias can lead to you being
felt like my dad who I know or at least, I thought, supported
more judgmental of people who have different views, and
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CONSISTENCY IN LIBERAL VS CONSERVATIVE VIEWS
serious
For example, everyone issues,
and
agrees there should be
there’s no shame in admitting that
less poverty in the world.
they’re hard to work through. But
Nobody likes seeing peo-
“hard” doesn’t mean “impossible,”
ple go hungry. There are
and there’s good news on that front:
lots
Bridging the divide is often doable.
about how to solve those
You just have to formulate a plan and
problems, but few would
then put it into practice.
argue that the problems
of
different
exist and any serious pro-
says. “What values do you natural-
posed solutions deserve
ly share? Build a relationship first
consideration.
share values.”
M O S T LY C O N S ERVATIVE
ideas
“Find common ground first,” she
by talking about topics where you
A L W A YS C O N S ERVATIVE
MIXED
Boyes says where a lot of people go
trying to push for a spe-
wrong in these conversations is start-
cific policy proposal yet—
ing with the disagreement. Next time,
you’re building a founda-
try starting with topics you can agree
tion for a better conversation with a
“Making peace is like forgiveness in
on. You can even do this alone as a per-
shared vocabulary.
that you don’t necessarily need the
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sonal exercise to help foster a spirit of
In your conversation, make sure
other person to be involved,” Boyes
empathy with people who vote differ-
you’re asking a lot of questions
said. “For instance, you might make
ently than you do.
about their views. You’re not trying
peace with the fact your mother or fa-
“Approach it with genuine curiosity
to change your own mind here (al-
ther has different views than you do.”
and interest about what other people’s
though you should always be open
The political issues you’re discuss-
perspectives are and why they think
to it). You’re talking to a real person,
ing are no doubt important, but are
what they think,” she says. “Can you
and not just addressing a stereotype
they more important than the con-
agree with their concerns even if you
you’ve cobbled together in your own
nection you’re trying to maintain? For
don’t agree with their conclusions?”
head. Too many of these conversations
some people, they might be.
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For Hal, they weren’t.
are arguing past each oth-
“Your relationship with your chil-
er, addressing the straw-
dren and the people you love is more
man arguments from the
important than being right,” he says.
talking heads they’ve seen
Hal says he’s felt judged by some of
on cable news and Twit-
his peers over his children’s leftward
ter. Seek genuine under-
political drifting, but he’s learned to
standing so you can have
accept it. “I care that they stay loving
a substantive conversation
the Lord and they care about teaching
about the disagreement in-
their kids about Him and about be-
stead of the talking points
ing kind and loving and caring to the
pre-written for you by the
world around them and to each other.
echo chamber.
Those are my most important things.”
And above all, establish
So he decided to make amends. He
your priorities. If you’re
called his daughter up and said, “Let’s
having this conversation,
get lunch.”
it’s safe to assume the relationship is important to you
RELATIONSHIP FIRST
and you want to salvage it.
When Hal and Katie sat down to try
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and work through their differences, it
that we don’t. We don’t talk about a lot
to get healthcare for a pre-existing
wasn’t easy.
of issues but I don’t necessarily think
condition due to Obamacare when you
it’s that important to talk about those
weren’t previously, it might be very
issues. I do think it’s important to not
important to you to share that story
“I got mad,” Katie says. “I was yelling at the coffee shop.”
offend my daughter, who I love.”
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and experience.” But the bitter pill is that disagree-
Boyes agrees with Hal’s
ments are very rarely worked through
assessment. While the point
by one person being debated into re-
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of tension can feel like a
alizing the other person is right. Time
thorn that has to be pulled
spent donating to or volunteering for
before the relationship can
organizations working on those caus-
Hal says his goal was to apologize
mend, not every political or social ten-
es is a better investment than debating
and say he was open to listening better
sion is going to be resolved. Sometimes
with family members.
in the future. Katie says she wanted
you just disagree about an issue.
If you want to preserve the rela-
her father to understand that for her,
“Gratitude is a good antidote to lack
tionship, you have to prioritize it. That
Trump’s remarks were more than just
of acceptance,” says Boyes. “For exam-
might mean initiating some tough con-
“offensive”—they were a real remind-
ple, if you’re finding yourself being
versations or tabling some important
er that the trauma she and millions
judgmental about your parents, you
ones, but for many people, such sac-
of other victims of sexual harassment
might think about all the times they’ve
rifices will be worth it for a working,
have endured is still excused and
wiped your tears, driven you to soccer,
functional connection with people
waved away by society at large.
baked you a birthday cake and priori-
they care about.
“What I value and appreciate is that he put our relationship first,” says Katie. “That he was humble, came to me,
tized you ahead of themselves.” In other words, it all comes down to where your focus is.
And that, Boyes says, is the big misconception about bridging these rifts: the notion that “there’s one right way
heard me and even that he let me be
One caveat here is that some dis-
to handle it. Relationships are compli-
mad because it’s been an angry time.
agreements do have a moral compo-
cated and people make them work the
He took that and he heard it and I
nent. “I think it’s important to speak
best they can.”
think that shows a lot of maturity.”
up if someone makes a comment that’s
“I offended her so I had to apologize
racist or sexist or otherwise discrimi-
for it and get our relationship right,”
natory,” says Boyes. “But you can do it
Hal says. “That doesn’t mean that we
in a way that judges the comment and
agree on some things. I definitely think
not the person. Likewise, if you’re able
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BY JESSE CAREY
on
the second track of
sound more like a celebration
their new album,
than a breakdown. Its first major
Pep Talks, Judah &
single “Pictures” even features
meet and greets, or that we meet,
the Lion frontman
a collaboration with Kacey
that really deal with suicidal
Judah Akers admits
Musgraves, who is coming off an
thoughts or self-harm or depression
to listeners, “All
album of the year win of her own.
and anxiety,” Akers says. His
these stories probably should be
However, in the midst of all of
that things will get better. “We have a lot of people at our
message to them: It’s OK to not be
just for my therapist,” adding, “this
the recent professional success,
OK. They’re not alone. Things will
whole record might be a quarter-
Akers himself was hitting a
get better.
life crisis.”
personal low.
If you’ve followed the career
“From the outside looking in,
These are truths he recently had to learn for himself.
of the Tennessee indie-rock
we were playing these amazing
outfit, that might seem like an
shows—playing bigger shows than
BITTERSWEET SUCCESS
odd admission. Since their first
we ever have as a band which
Akers, who plays guitar in addition
release back in 2012, the band has
was so gratifying and joyful—but
to providing lead vocals; Brian
seen a steady rise in popularity,
internally, for me, I was just going
Macdonald, who plays mandolin;
culminating with 2016’s Folk Hop
through kind of this version of
banjo player Nate Zuercher; and
N’ Roll. Led by the breakout single
hell,” he says, looking back to
former drummer Spencer Cross
“Take It All Back”—which sat atop
writing the album.
met while they were students at
Billboard’s Top Alternative Songs
The story of that version of
Nashville’s Belmont University.
chart for a month—the album
hell—and how he’s made it out on
Combining their eclectic music
landed them on late-night talk
the other side—is a dramatic one,
backgrounds (They are one of the
shows, major festival line-ups and
but the core of Pep Talks is more
decidedly few rock bands with a
sold-out concerts around the world.
than just a heartbreaking story:
dedicated mandolin player.), the
It’s a reminder to anyone else
four friends began experimenting
who’s watching their life fall apart
with music together, and by their
Pep Talks, their first new music in three years, should
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senior year they were one of the school’s most popular acts, headlining the school’s L-R
Christian music showcase
Brian Mcdonald, Judah
concert and winning the
Akers, Nate Zuercher
“Best of the Best” battle of the bands. But in their early days, the band had a much different approach than tackling some of the heavier themes found on Pep Talks: They were a worship band. Their first EP was called First Fruits, and featured slow, folk-inspired praise music. However, after gaining more and more attention and further expanding their sound, they decided to write more personal songs that would appeal to audiences from any background. “We didn’t want to be pigeonholed and only play for Christians,” Zuercher says, looking back on those early days. “We wanted to make music that was available to everyone, but had themes of what faith means to us, just not punching anybody in the face with it.” As the lyrical themes began to evolve, so did the music itself. While their early releases leaned heavily on their bluegrass backgrounds, they would eventually incorporate more elements of indie-rock, synth-dance beats and fuzzed out guitars. By the time “Take It All Back” was exploding, they’d established themselves as one of the more unique
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bands in Nashville. But as they
around me,” he remembers. “We
time I was like, ‘It’s OK to feel these
reached new professional highs,
were out on the road, and you kind
things and process these things.’”
Akers’ personal life was crashing in
of have to have everything together
around him.
just as a performer, but internally I
GETTING HONEST
just felt like everything was kind of
Pep Talks isn’t exactly a happy
While he was touring the world,
album. Sure, there are some big, fun moments that will
“We didn’t want to be pigeonholed and only play for Christians.”
make for a great live show, but it tells a heavy story of what it feels like when a family faces trauma; what it’s like to see someone struggle with addiction; how helpless it feels to go through tragedy. When Akers realized it’s OK to be honest about pain instead of trying to hold it back, he made an album
back home, his family was in crisis. His aunt had just died from a
going to crap.”
that’s intensely personal and deeply
While visiting with a counselor,
heavy. But something else happened
prescription drug overdose, his mom
Akers had a revelation that would
when he got vulnerable and shared
was battling alcoholism and his
not only help change his life—but
his story with others: He realized he
parents were going through an ugly
would also shape the direction
wasn’t alone after all. He realized
divorce. Sure, he was now an adult
of Pep Talks. He was telling his
that by owning his story, he got to
with an exploding career unfolding
counselor about his aunt, his
decide how it ended.
in front of him, but he was still a kid
mother’s addiction, his parents’
from Tennessee whose family meant
divorce and the pressures of touring,
to take control of your narrative,
everything to him.
when his counselor interrupted him.
you get a lot more editorial oversight
“He said, ‘You know, it’s just really
into how the plot functions. Not total
“I grew up in kind of a southern
As it turns out, when you decide
town in Tennessee, kind of a smaller
interesting to me, you’ve said all this
control but it’s better than nothing.
town, just outside of Nashville where
stuff, but you haven’t really changed
And most importantly, it’s yours.
family is so important,” he says. “I’m
the expression on your face,’”
very, very close with my parents.”
Akers says. “And it was just this
quarter-life crisis—but also about
moment where I realized I was like
how to make it through one.
Watching his family fall apart while also balancing the pressures of trying to write a follow-up to a hit album was taking a toll on Akers.
bullsh***ing my counselor.” The exchange led to a
The album is the story of a
“It doesn’t matter who you are, your story matters so much but your
breakthrough. Akers realized that
story doesn’t define you,” he says,
even though he would talk about the
discussing the message of the album.
compartmentalize things, burying
things going on in his life, he wasn’t
“At the end of the day you get to
the trauma of an intensely difficult
actually dealing with them.
define your story.”
For a while, he just tried to
season under layers of enthusiasm,
He’d tell people about his family
performative calm and emotional
troubles, but he never allowed
distancing.
himself to actually feel the pain of
“During this season, I kind of had a hard time being honest just with myself and what was happening
it all. “The floodgates just kind of came rushing in,” he says. “For the first
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You Can’t Save the World Until You’ve Saved Yourself A Conversation with
Erwin McManus The influential pastor and author beat cancer, but now he’s turning his attention to even deeper battles.
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he began writing as if every
he’s aware that a new
diagnosed with cancer, his
word would be the last he
generation is fighting new
ministry took on a new
ever wrote. Fortunately, it
battles. As he writes in his
urgency. As the pastor of
was not.
latest book, The Way of
Mosaic in Los Angeles and
Surviving cancer
the Warrior, McManus is
the author of a dozen books,
gave McManus a fresh
convinced that far too many
his legacy was secure—but
perspective—one in which
people aren’t ready for the
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struggles that lie ahead because they
honestly with the dynamics and the
I feel like my life has been failure after
haven’t fully dealt with the struggles
complexity of being human. I’m just
failure after failure.
within. McManus spoke with us
trying to humanize the process of
about what he thinks people need to
moving toward holiness.
remember about saving the world,
But when a person says there’s no such thing as failure it means that they have removed themselves from the
why he only wants to hire failures and
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE’S OFTEN A
arena of genuine evaluation. And if
how he hopes Christianity is coming
DISCONNECT BETWEEN KNOWING
you don’t evaluate where you are, you
out of its age of magic.
WE’RE NOT THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE
can’t go where you want to go.
WANT TO BE AND KNOWING HOW TO WHERE DID YOU FIRST START TO COME
BECOME THAT PERSON.
ACROSS THE IDEA FOR THE WAY OF THE WARRIOR?
I remember years ago sitting in a room of young executives at a huge event that fell apart. I said, “I need
Absolutely. A huge part of the problem
to know who was responsible for the
in our culture is this overwhelming
outcome of this event,” and every
I’ve been a follower of Christ for 40
sense of powerlessness. What’s
single person in the room said, “Not
years, and I’ve seen so many people
happened in our society is that we’ve
me, not me, not me, not me, not me.”
not make it. I’ve seen so many people
created this dilemma where we don’t
And at the end of it, I said, “OK, I
crash and burn. Our community
advocate ownership for our situation,
need you guys to go find the person
at Mosaic—just thousands upon
our problems, our future, our internal
responsible for this failure because
thousands of 20-year-olds and they’re
health, our emotional stability. We’ve
that’s the person I want to hire.”
the most intelligent, gifted, talented,
begun to project externally who’s to
Because really, you don’t belong in
attractive human beings on the
blame or what’s to blame for what’s
this room if you’re not the person
planet—and they are drowning in anxiety and fear and stress and panic attacks, thoughts of suicide, attempts of suicide, people
“You only have the power to change the things you take responsibility for.”
ending their lives. The paradox of opportunity with reality is at such a critical level of extremes that I felt
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going on inside of us. What we don’t realize is that, if you
responsible for the failure. There’s this intimate relationship between
like I needed to speak into the cultural
don’t take ownership, you actually
what you take ownership of and how
issue that we’re losing this internal
become powerless. You only have
powerful you are to bring change in
battle. We have all this freedom, all
the power to change the things you
your life.
this opportunity, we have all this
take responsibility for. I have a lot of
wealth but we don’t have the capacity
friends who are in the world of human
LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THIS GENERATION
to get up in the morning and face
development right now and one of the
ARE MOVED BY THE CAUSES THEY SEE
the problems of the day. We’re not
really catchy things to say is “there’s
IN THE WORLD AROUND THEM, SO
just struggling. We’re tormented on
no such thing as failure.” I’ve looked
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WORKING ON
the inside, and I actually think that
at people face to face who’ve told me
“YOURSELF” CAN SOUND SORT
we’ve done ourselves a disservice. ...
“I’ve never failed.” One of the things
OF SELFISH.
Sometimes I think Christianity’s in a
they need to realize is that the moment
transition. It’s still coming out of an era
you say failure is an illusion, you
I say those are the very ones who are
of magic, and we just added Christian
become powerless to actual change.
struggling the most. That’s the irony.
language to magic rather than dealing
My life experience is brutally different.
They end up spending way too much
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to have this
not dealing with how to become whole.
conversation
If you don’t deal with the stuff inside
with
of you, it will eat you away and end
themselves.
up consuming your life. You can’t give
They’re already
the world—long term—what you do
having it.
“You cannot bring wholeness to the world if you’re not whole.”
not have. You cannot bring life to the world if you’re not alive. You cannot
WHEN I WAS A
bring wholeness to the world if you’re
KID, I HEARD
not whole. You’re going to end up
THAT IF YOU WANT INNER PEACE,
using that cause to try to numb your
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BECOME A
everything in the Scriptures. I do
own pain. I’d rather have you go try
CHRISTIAN AND POOF. IT WAS LIKE A
believe that there is a devil. I do
to change the world from a place of
MAGIC SPELL THAT WAS THE PROMISE
believe in Satan. I do believe in the
health and wholeness.
THAT WAS DELIVERED TO A LOT OF
Kingdom of God and the kingdom
PEOPLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE
of darkness, I believe all of this. I
SO YOU’D SAY YOU CAN’T BRING PEACE
DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY FOUND
just think that our language and our
TO THE WORLD AROUND YOU UNLESS
OUT THAT IT JUST WASN’ T TRUE.
understanding of reality isn’t biblical,
you’re supposed to take on in your life.
YOU’VE FOUND PEACE YOURSELF.
It’s odd for me because I believe
it’s actually more mythical. We need If you lost an arm and then you gave
to start helping people realize that
I’m just going to say it has proven
your life to Jesus, very few of us would
if you make bad choices, it creates a
to be ineffective. I’m not saying
believe that arm should grow back
bad future. You make a bad choice, it
you shouldn’t fight for world peace.
the moment you gave your life to
creates a crack in your soul. You need
I’m saying we’re trying to solve the
Jesus, but if you have psychological
to realize that the healing process
symptom and not the cause.
brokenness and you give your life
takes time and it takes good choices.
to Jesus everybody expects that all
Your emotional health is as real as
AND YOU WOULD SAY ONCE YOU’RE
that psychological brokenness will be
your physical health.
ABLE TO DO THAT, YOU’RE GOING TO
healed the moment you give your life
BE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE WITH THE
to Jesus. We actually think our physical
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO SOMEONE
CAUSES THAT ARE ON YOUR HEART?
bodies are more human than our souls.
WHO HEARS ABOUT THIS BOOK AND
One of the great benefits of
THINKS, “WELL, THAT SOUNDS FINE
Well, life doesn’t give you a pause
Instagram is I get to see a lot of clips
FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF
button. You don’t have to choose
of a lot of Christian speakers and
STRUGGLES BUT I DON’T NEED THAT
between making the world better or
leaders, and it’s amazing to me how
BECAUSE MY LIFE’S OK”?
making yourself better. You’d better
overwhelming the language is about
find the time to do both because you
the devil. I’m in 2019 and every human
By a lot of measures in life, I’ve been
only get one life. The reality is the
problem is still attributed to the devil.
successful, but every day I’m fighting
people who actually make an impact
Just from a theological perspective
for peace. Every day I’m struggling
in the world take the time. It is odd,
the devil is not the parallel of God.
with stuff inside. I’m grappling with
have you ever noticed that a person
Satan isn’t everywhere at all times
the core of who I am as a human being.
who doesn’t use their time well never
attacking everyone, knowing our
If you actually don’t need this book, I
has time to do something meaningful
every thought. The reality is, as long as
wish you would write one and tell us
but the person who’s really busy
you’re attributing every failure in your
how you got where you’re at.
doing a lot of good, they have the
life, every struggle in your life, every
time to do everything that matters?
weakness in your life, every internal
I actually don’t worry about that
storm in your life to the devil, it
person who’s actually trying to make
actually makes you powerless because
the world better. They’ll find the time
you’re abandoning the battle that
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BEN HIGGINS HAS A PROPOSAL
How The Bachelor went from reality TV heartthrob to fighting poverty
BY TYLER DASWI CK
BEN HIGGINS WANTED A SIMPLE LIFE UNTIL HE ACTUALLY FOUND ONE. He was a 26-year-old in Denver, working in a
windowless basement cubicle writing user manuals for tech developers. It was sad. He was sad. He knows because someone told him to his face. “You’re a sad dude,” Higgins remembers a coworker telling him. “And you shouldn’t be. I see moments of you having this attractive spirit, but you shut down. You need something more.” That coworker was right, Higgins says. He wanted to be around people, leave a legacy, be open about his faith and his values, but he’d go into a shell, withdrawing from relationships and staying in that cycle of simplicity. Higgins’ coworker had other ideas. She signed him up to audition for ABC’s reality dating franchise The Bachelor. It was an absurd notion: Send the straight-laced kid from Warsaw, Indiana, to the sob-soaked world of unscripted TV. Even more absurd: It worked. In 2015,
for him, Higgins boarded the plane to
Community Church: Live your life as if
Higgins found himself as a contestant
Los Angeles. His head was already in
it could be written about in the Bible.
on The Bachelorette. A year later,
Hollywood and the new stratosphere
This was his chance to do that on a far
his face was on a billboard in Times
of fame he’d be soaring in when he
grander stage than most people are
Square in New York City. He’d been
took a call from his friend Riley Fuller,
ever offered.
named the lead on The Bachelor, the
a childhood buddy who had founded a
crown prince of reality TV.
nonprofit called Humanity and Hope
Bachelor into a Bible story, but not
United five years before.
before The Bachelor would change him,
“I walked onto The Bachelorette
Higgins was about to turn The
broken and upset and not believing
Higgins told Fuller about his Times
in myself [and was] thrown on the
Square feeling and the huge head rush.
he says it was, “the first time I was ever
side of a building with 27 of the most
That wasn’t who he wanted to be.
truly exposed to the world.”
beautiful women you’ve ever seen in
Fuller asked him a question: What
too. Looking back on his experience,
“I don’t want to say it was the
your life,” he says. “You want to talk
if your time on this show was about
healthiest environment,” he says. “But
about an ego boost? It messed me up
something greater than yourself?
I believe this fully: The Bachelor acted
pretty good.” With the mansion, the women and Bachelor host Chris Harrison waiting
Higgins remembered a mantra
like church to me, because it was a
he’d held since his software days, one
bunch of people sitting around a room
rooted in his upbringing at Warsaw
sharing their hearts with each other.
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It was so life-enhancing for me. Want to see a grown man
“There’s no place on this Earth we should be scared to enter into and fearful of learning from.”
cry? Sit in on that show, and you’ll see a grown man cry
one of the most popular leads in the
this Earth we should be scared to enter
every day.”
program’s history, yet some in the
into and fearful of learning from.”
Higgins believes when you enter
faith community still criticize his
Before he was stuck working in
a place where everything is stripped
appearance on the show. Higgins says
software, Higgins was used to entering
away and all you have are your
he never anticipated the conflict.
into places. He’d go on mission trips
relational abilities, desires and
He understands why one might
with his church to Honduras growing
dysfunctions, you see people’s hopes
object to him dating multiple people
up, the same place his friend Riley
for belonging. One question he
at once, and he agrees that “only one
Fuller had focused Humanity and
remembers hearing in the mansion
name should be famous, and that’s
Hope United. The organization looks to
was: “What can I do to help myself?”
Jesus,” but the accusations that he’s
fight poverty in the region sustainably.
He has an answer.
not really a Christian don’t make sense
Inspired to help their work, Higgins
to him.
founded a for-purpose coffee company
“You can’t help yourself,” he says. “You can practice things that
“It’s odd that a portion of the
called Generous International.
encourage you and support you,
Christian community believes we
but ultimately there is a God who is
can’t put ourselves in an environment
there’s nothing OK with closing your
“Because of the words of Jesus,
desiring to be with you, and He is with
that seems counter to what we know
eyes and moving away from something
you right now.”
Christianity to be,” he says. “Are we
inhuman,” he says. “Generous
afraid that Jesus isn’t somewhere? Do
International was really started by the
HUMAN SERVICES
we actually believe Jesus is present at
anger against poverty.”
In the three years since his time on
all times within us and between us?
He’s the CEO, and though it’s his
The Bachelor, Higgins has become
If that’s the case, there’s no place on
full-time gig, he doesn’t make a cent off of it. He helped found the company in late 2016 as a way to give Humanity and Hope United consistent backing. As Generous Coffee would generate revenue, it would pour all its profits back into nonprofits. In its first year, the company donated $20,000. They focused on empowering
All the money Generous Coffee makes is poured into nonprofits.
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Honduran women to join the local workforce, efforts which yielded a 100 percent success rate. “We’re trying to fight human injustice, poverty, sex trafficking, anything that makes anyone feel less than,” Higgins says. “Those things are just not an option. Whatever you believe the Kingdom of Heaven is and how it’s coming to Earth, I believe we have a piece in that. We’re called to cultivate and be a part of this world and I want to be a part of
more communities in Honduras.
me or push me or add
that. I’m staying in human services.”
I want [the coffee shop in Golden,
any value. I’m still
By his own admission, Higgins is
Colorado] to be fruitful and alive,
nervous about figuring
“not a young buck anymore.” He just
where people feel accepted, loved,
out the next steps. That
turned 30, and with the benchmark
known and welcome.
transition is going to be a
Higgins doesn’t make a penny off his work for Generous.
comes a responsibility that he says is
“Spiritually, I’m in this weird season
exciting to him, but you sense freaks
where Christian mysticism is attractive
him out a little.
to me. I want to experience God. I
software salesman who was thrown
Generous will open its first coffee
challenge for me.” Higgins remembers the sad
haven’t in a long time, and now I’m
on to The Bachelorette, and he sees
shop in Golden, Colorado, this spring,
going through seasons of doubt. I don’t
a purposelessness he never wants
and a fresh Bachelor cycle means
feel like that’s the way God desires me
to experience again. For him, a
Higgins will make a few on-camera
to live, so I’m asking for His voice and
return to the simple life would mean
cameos. It’s another period of
guidance in that.”
abandoning things like Generous, the
redefinition.
And then beneath it all, Higgins feels
things that remind him of his purpose
“I’ve enjoyed this season more than
a small tug toward home. So much has
I thought I would,” Higgins says about
changed for him since he left all those
his post-Bachelor life. “But I’m not
years ago, but Warsaw, Indiana, is still
just all the stuff I did, but how much I
walking into this next season without
pretty much the same. Higgins still
cared about the people I was around,”
some struggle. I have work to do in
feels a connection to the place he grew
he says. “I’m really proud of how hard
every category of my life. Relationally,
up, where his dad went to high school
I’ve tried to do the right thing. I care
my identity has been being single
and his mom lived just an hour away.
a ton still, and I was worried I was
for three years. I’ve gotten praise for
“It’s really odd,” he says. “I was
to follow Jesus and make an impact. “I want to leave a legacy that’s not
going to lose that. Through all this
being single, support for being single.
able to know myself better living
craziness, I never became too big to
I’ve gotten jobs for being single. I’ve
in Warsaw than any other place
care about people.”
enjoyed the attention, and taking that
I’ve ever been. So much happens in
away has been hard.”
Denver. When I’m in L.A. or New York, everything’s moving all the time
NEVER TOO BIG
and people are scattering around.
“Professionally, I want to dive deeper.
In Warsaw, there’s a simplicity I still
In 2019, we [at Generous] want a
desire to this day.
deeper relationship with Humanity and Hope United so they can reach
“I know I’m tempted to go back to a really simple life that doesn’t stretch
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LAST WORD A Thought Before We Go
We All Must Keep on Dreaming
to equip us with unique gifts,
and has given us the freedom
to encourage us and to remind
to make decisions; loving and
us of our purpose here. We
just; one God yet three all at
miss this beautiful, personal
once; and the One for whom
interaction with our living God
time doesn’t exist, yet He
if in our minds He stays only the
intentionally planned every
distant Creator of planets.
moment of it for us.
WE MISS GOD’S CREATIVITY
land somewhere, but this one
Just look around. Everything
little admonition—embrace the
about you is different from
tension—keeps me humble,
every other human on Earth. By
keeps God as God and keeps me
design. God creates generations
slightly capable of knowing a
and billions of interesting
smidgen of Him.
We hate tension. We love to
humans, and then He takes time
He is unknowable in so
to write intimate and unique
many ways, so mystery
moments for each one of them.
must be applied to our small
Ignore this side of God, and
understanding of Him and
Yes, God has big plans. But He also cares
you will miss the point: He ran
what He has revealed to us in
about dreams, even if they are small.
after you. He wrote stories for
Scripture. We often desperately
you. He numbered your days.
chase knowledge of “God’s will
He knows your thoughts before
for me” at the sacrifice of God’s
you think them and your words
will. As we look into what our
before you speak them.
dreams might be, what our
BY J E N N I E A L L E N
I
sometimes feel guilty for
God is only big and only about
He is big, and He moves into
dreaming. Is this selfish?
eternal heavenly things in our
the small. It’s God’s dichotomy
call might be, let’s embrace the tension of seeking God’s will for
Shouldn’t we just focus
minds, we miss out. We stop
that makes Him so absolutely
us, individually, within God’s
completely on God and
dreaming before we even start
mind-blowing.
revealed will for this Earth—for
not get narcissistic, thinking
because we fail to see how He
there are special things we
could be interested. And we miss
WE MISS THE MYSTERY OF GOD
eternity and for His people. We won’t ever stop searching for
should all be doing?
some key things.
My favorite professor in
purpose until God’s will becomes
seminary taught me the most
our passion.
Honestly, it is good to think about because we live in a time
WE MISS JESUS
painful and difficult truth about
in church history when we have
When we believe God is only in
following God: Embrace the
strategically justified obsessive
the big, we miss that Jesus loved
tension.
amounts of self-focus. We have
each individual deeply and met
come to treat God as if He exists
their unique needs. We miss
bloggers and theologians all
for us, rather than us existing
how creatively He pursued each
fight for various values they
for Him. As if He is supposed
of us until we believed. We miss
hold dear. But they often pull so
to fit our plans, rather than our
His vision for His church: One
hard (God is this way and not
only plan being to know Him
body, many unique parts coming
that way) that they yank away
and to follow Him.
together to make a difference
the tension that maintains truth.
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with their small moments.
Even humans can’t be easily
is a Bible teacher, the
boxed in. And if we can’t, God
founder of IF:Gathering
God is big, but He moves into the small. God cares about eternity, yet He cares about
WE MISS HIS SPIRIT
every second of every human’s
Jesus sent a Helper to live in
life. That is who we serve. When
and through us, to pray for us,
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certainly can’t be either. Somehow, in His holy otherness, our God is sovereign
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