Dreams, their interpretations and ali mirza of jhelum

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Dream, Their Interpretations and “Ali Mirza: Of Jhelum A Philosophical Approach:= A DREAM is an Accident [“Ard:] which Subsisteth and Existeth in the Essence and in the Substance of a Rational Suppositum [ Person] while the Rational Suppositum is Sleeping. A dream is not an Abstraction [‘Intiza:”] but an Accident and therefore requires a Substratum of Essence or Substance of a Rational Supposita [Persons]. Page 3 of 31


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General definition. It is a series of Images seen by a Rational Essence or by a Rational Substance while the Rational Essence/Substance is Sleeping defying the Laws of Optical Act of Seeing. There are some more approaches to the nature of Dreams like Psychological Approach , Neurological Approach etc. But these are beyond the scope of the present discussions. Result A dream is an Accident in form of images which are visualized by a Rational Suppositum/Essence/Substance . It may be in a type of a horror story or quite irregular in events. Religious Approach. According to religion there are three types of dreams. 1] Dreams from Divine Essence. [Good Dreams]. 2] Dreams from Satan [Bad Dreams]. 3] Dreams from the Mind of the Dreamer . Religious Laws and Dreams. Religious Laws are not applicable to the Dreams. For example if a person dreams that he has murdered an other person , the person can not be declared as a Murderer in the Real Life. Similarly if a Person declares that he has seen a dream that he is committing an Act of Kufr [Infidelity] the person can not be declared as a Ka:fir [Infidel] on the basis of the Dream which he has seen. Holiness and Unholiness of a dream. A deam is an Accident that is the Images of Dreams are Just accidents they can not be termed as Unholy since Holiness and Unholiness are Themselves Accidents and in general it is accepted by the Majority of Philosphers, Theologians, Dialectics and Excogitaters that An Accident cannot be sustained in an other Accident. So if Goodness or Badness of a Dream subsists it does not subsist in the Dream but in the Essence or Substance of the Rational Suppositum [Person] Which Dreams. So the very Self of a Dream is neither Good nor Bad. How ever Accidents are Imperfect in their Nature , and the Nature of an Accident is the Self of an Accident. The difference between Imperfect and Bad,

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Page 5 of 31 Imperfect and Evil and Perfect and Good must be kept in mind. A good thing may be imperfect. For Example eating good things is neither Bad nor Evil but it is a kind of Imperfection and Defect [ Naqs:]. Sexual Activity as according to the religion with the espouse is neither Evil nor Bad but Good ,yet an imperfection. Similarly Begetting and Conceiving are neither Bad nor Evil Acts but are Imperfections.( 1) Dreams and Divine Essence A Dream is an Accidents and all Accidents are Imperfections, Defects and all defects are Per Se Absurd Upon Divine Essence so Dream are Muh:a:l Bidh: Dh:a:t [Per Se Absurd] Upon Divine Essence. ( 2) Similarly a the accident of Sleeping is also Imperfection and Defect and is Per Se Absurd Upon Divine Essence. Interpretations of Dreams and ‘Isla:m. ‘Isla:m declareth all sort of Divination as Astrology ( 3), Palmistry, Jufr (4), R-m-l , “Ilm ‘Al ‘A”da:d / Numerology (5), R-M-L (6) as Un’Isla:mic . But it recogniseth Science of Interpretation of Dreams. Although the Interpretations made are only Probable [Z:anni] after the Holy Prophet and no Laws of Interpretation [T”bi:r] are conveyed from ‘Ah:adi:th: of first and second categories yet one may base his interpretations on the rules made by conjectures or experiences or else. Vision of Holy Prophet In Dreams. It is reported that Satan [Saita:n] cannot incarnate in form of Holy Prophet. This tradition is correct and has involved Scholars in several debates. Majority opines that if a person dreams that a person is claiming that he is the Holy Prophet then the person appearing in the dream is certainly the Holy Prophet or if some one sees a person and in the dream recognizes him in the dream or while dreaming then the visualized person is the Holy Prophet as accpording to the H:adi:th: . But some excogitaters [ Researchers/Muh:aqqiqu:n] do make some objection to the view of Majority. They say that this tradition is:= 1] Particular to those S:ah:abah RD: who have seen Holy Prophet by Physical Eyes in the Real Life, since only they can be certain whether the face of a person visualized in a dream is that of The Holy Prophet or not. 2] The tradition says that Satan [Shait:a:n] cannot incarnate in the likeness of Holy Prophet but the tradition is absolutely silent on the issue whether Satan can claim to be a Holy Prophet when the Satan is not in the exact likeness of Holy Prophet. Page 5 of 31


Page 6 of 31 3] There are some cases when a person dreams a claimant in DREAM THAT HE IS THE Holy Prophet yet he does not satisfy the Correct Reports about the Character of Holy Prophet or physical features of the Holy Prophets. 4] In some case some acts or sentences ascribed to the person who is claimant to be the Holy Prophet are against the Infallibility and Innocence of the Holy Prophet. There may be some more reasons but these are the major ones. In any case we do not make a judgement between the two groups of scholars. But there are two different opinions. Our opinion is that unless and otherwise there are evidences that the image of person visualized in a dream is not according to the standard of Holy Prophet it is most probable that the person his the Holy Prophet himself. Although it is neither certain nor almost certain BUT Most Probable. This is a safe path between the two extreme Sunnite views. Acts in Dream and their Interpretations. An Interpretation of a Dream based upon some Principle and Rules which are themselves at most probable may be incorrect or correct. It may be the case that an interpretation of a Dream made by an expert interpreter may be correct or incorrect, right or wrong, true or false. So it is impossible to decide any thing with certainty. How ever in the time of Holy Prophet one of the best Interpreter [Interpretist] of dream in the ‘Ummah Saiyiduna: ‘Abu Bakr made an Interpretation of a Dream and Holy Prophet informed him that there are some errors in his Interpretation. How ever the Holy Prophet did not Identify the errors. It was because that Holy Prophet was not revealed about the individual errors of the interpretation but was just revealed that there are some Errors in the interpretation made by Saiyiduna: ‘Abu: Bakr RD: , WITH OUT THEIR IDENTIFICATION . Otherwise it must necessary be the case to convey what was aspired and revealed [Vah:y]. Dreams and Evil Acts in Dreams. An Evil act may be of a lesser Degree or a greater degree. An act of Kufr or Shirk [Shirc/Shirck] is the Evil act of the worst type. But these are acts in Real World. Is an act like Kufr or Shirk which are one of the most evil acts in the Real World , are Evil in the Dream Worlds or Imaginary Worlds ? Does an Evil act makes a Dream Evil? These are two questions and are answered differently. There is no Tradition which provide answers and replies to these two questions. So once again it all depends upon the derivation and deduction which are highly disputed and there is no certainty in them what so ever.

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Discussion On the Dreamed Events and There Interpretation. A crude view is that an Evil act committed in a dream makes the dream evil and consequently makes it from Satan . But an Expert Opinion is different from this view. It is possible that an Evil Act/Event is seen in a Dream but the interpretation of the Dream is Good. There are types of interpretations of an Event seen in a dream. 1] The Interpretation which is in accordance to the dreamt event. In this case the interpretation in the real world is of an evil act. In this meaning the dream may be declared as Evil. Yet the self of the Dream that is just an Accident is not evil but in regard to the interpretation if the interpretation is correct. 2] The Interpretation which is just contrary or contradictory to the dreamt event. In this meaning the dream may be good or bad as according to the meaning of the interpretation and not in regard to the dreamt Event. 3] The Interpretation neither falls in the first nor in the second stated above Categories. That is the interpretation is apparently independent of the dreamt event ,yet it is the interpretation of the dream and the events seen in the dream. 4] Partial Interpretation. An interpretation which is complex and is a combination of any two of the stated above or all the three categories stated above. 5] A dream with out any interpretation at all. In this formation it is possible that a Dream of some most evil events in the Real World may have a very good interpretation. If so then the dream is not from the Satan. According to the science of Interpretation of Dreams it is not necessary that if some Evil Acts are seen in a Dream then the dream is from Satan. It may not be from Satan but from angels. Since the dreams are just symbolic and

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but disguised in evil events just as symbols of the good event. Since there is no law in the Dream World which bounds the causes of the dream not to code good meanings in symbols which are bad or evil in the Real World. EXAMPLES := 1] If a person Dreams that he is Worshipping or Praying to a Gh:airullah may have the following interpretation. Page 7 of 31


Page 8 of 31 1.1]The Dreamer Shall never Worship a Gh:airullah and never Pray to Gh:airullah. 1.2]An other Possible interpretation is that the Person shall not be successful in a task given to him. This has nothing to do with Kufr or Shirk. 2] If a person Dreams that he his committing an Act of a Heresy, it may be interpreted as follow:= 2.1] The person shall never commit a Heresy in his life. 2.2] The person may invent some thing new. A person if sees himself reading a book of Gh:ula:m ‘Ah:mad Pervez may mean that the person shall be an perpetual opponent of the ideology of Gh:la:m ‘Ah:mad Pervez. 3] If a person visualizes in his/her dream that he/she is committing an act of adultery may have the following interpreted meanings:= 3.1] He/ She shall never commit this stated above act that is seen in the dream. A very good interpretation. 3.2] The persom whether male or female shall benefit a large number of people by her good and generous nature as according to the rules and laws of the Law of Religion. In the first case the interpretation is just the opposite of what that is seen. In the second Case the interpretation is apparently unrelated to the event , yet it is one of the interpretations . 4] If a Man or a Woman sees that he or she is committing Homosexuality may not mean that he or she is an evil natured man or woman, or that he or she may commit this Evil Act in some part of his or her life. It may means as follow:= 4.1]The dreamer whether male or female shall never commit these two acts. 4.2] Any one of the two shall benefit the other as according to the rules and laws of Shar�iah. 5] If some one sees himself or herself with out clothes then this does not mean that he is a bad natured person or he or she is under the power of Satan or that this dream is from Satan. It may mean as follow:= 5.1] The person whether male or female may have good clothes . 5.2] The person whether male of female does not love the Earthy things and have Love for Non Earthy things. In the first case the meaning are encoded in dreams by the symbols which are opposite to what is seen.

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Page 9 of 31 In the second case the meanings are encoded differently and apparently independently from what they are. It is possible that a person may dream some thing which is contrary to his /her believes. Examples: 1] If a person believes that it is Shirk to Ask any Gh:airullah for Assistance in any Beyond Reason [Ma: Fauq ‘Al ‘Asba:b] issue, but he may dream that he is committing that Shirk. The interpretation may be made as given in above examples. 2] If a person believes in ‘Ah:a:di:th: yet he sees that he is supporting the view of Gh:la:m ‘Ah:mad Pervez, it is possible AND NOT IMPOSSIBLE. The Possible interpretations are stated above. 3] If some one believes that the Bodies of Prophets and Apostles of Divine Essence are conserved as they are in their respective graves and do not decompose, yet he may see the bone of one of them. The interpretations of this dream may be different. But one thing is certain. The belief of a person cannot be decided from the dream of the person. 4] A person may dream that he is denouncing the Axioms of ‘Isla:m [ Necessaries of ‘Isla:m / D:a-ru:tiya: ‘Ad Di:n] yet he believes in them properly and firmly in Real World. 5] A person may see himself committing a Saj-d-h to an Idol or a Hindu god say Ra:m or Krishna: yet he does not believe in them either as gods or as Gods or as incarnated Gods, or as God incarnates nor as incarnations of God. He may be a Firm Muslim . However the interpretations of the dream may vary. There are so many example of dreams and their interpretations which may be seen in books.

OBJECTION FROM DENOUNCERS OF INTERPRETATIONS. Some of the non interpretists have made a view that if a dream is seen with some evil act then the dream MUST BE Evil and it MUST BE from Satan. It Must be Noted that a Dream with an evil act may be from Satan but it may not be from Satan. So it is necessary to reject the claim that “ If an Evil Event or an Evil Act is seen in a Dream then the Dream MUST BE from Satan”. Similarly it is necessary to reject the claim that “ If an Evil Act or an Evil Event is seen in a Dream then the Dream Cannot have a Good Interpretation”. Page 9 of 31


Page 10 of 31 It May Be and May Be Not. “May Be” does not Contradicteth May “Be Not” but Must be is contrary to both “May Be and May be Not”. May Be Implies May be Not [ May Not Be ] May Be Not [May Not Be] Implies May Be.

[We have taken My Be Not and May Not Be as two different expressions with one and the same meaning and if any subtle difference if exists between the two is neglected and is discarded so that they are perfect alternative expressions for one and the same meaning.] So there is a difference between Must Be and May Be. Things must be seen in its proper context and pretext. So if a dirty or an unholy or an evil act is seen in a dream the interpretation of the dream may be good. There is a Holy Tradition in Holy Muslim that it was reported to Holy Prophet that some S:ah:abah have such thoughts which they cannot express in sentences/speech ( 6) . Holy Prophet replied that this is Clear FAITH [‘I:ma:n]. Based on this tradition it is analogued that the same is true in case of dreams. An Evil act or Bad Event in a Dream may imply the Proper Faith as in case of a Thought of an Evil Act or a Bad Act, regardless of the degree of Evilness and Badness of the Act or Event thought or drempt. The reason is that both have some similarities. 1] Both are Involuntary. 2] Dreams are the concentrated forms of thoughts. 3] Dreams are highly related to thoughts in their basic natures. 4] The source of Thoughts and dreams is the same that is the mind of the Rational Suppositum. 5] Both are accidents. 6] None of them are the Substances, and none of them are the Essences. Due to such similarity it may be concluded that a Bad dream may imply the faith of the Dreamer, just like a bad Thought implies the Faith of the Thinker. However these are in the cases of Muslims and not in the case of a Non Muslim. But the Interpreters of the dream went on in subtle interpretations as well. Although there are no rules and principles of interpretations conveyed to Muslims from Traditions of ‘Ah:adi:th: of first category , yet it is held generally that it is allowed and permitted to make such rules and principles to interpret them. The greatest of all arguments is that when Sayiduna: ‘Abu: Bakr RD: made an interpretation of a dream in presence of Holy Prophet Himself in His Company, Holy Prophet Muh:ammad [S:allallahu “Alaihi Va Sallama] did not commanded him not to interprete again but only pointed out that there are some Page 10 of 31


Page 11 of 31 errors in the interpretation with out identifying them individually. This constitute the proof that the interpretations of dream are Allowed and Permitted, yet they are not Certain but Probable. Also if Holy Prophet did not Prohibited Saiyiduna: ‘Abu: Bakr RD: then the Divine Essence Doeth Have the Omnipotence to Prevent Saiyiduna: ‘Abu: Bakr RD: from exercising the intrerpretation by his principles known to him and to the Divine Essence, but Divine Essence did not prevented Saiyiduna: ‘Abu: Bakr RD: from doing so. So this is a Proof that it is a Taqri:r of Prophet and a Permission from Divine Essence Himself [Subh:an-hu Va Ta”a:la:]. SO this Holy Tradition is a proof that:= 1] Interpretation of dreams is allowed. 2] Setting Principles for interpretations are allowed . 3] An interpretation is Not Certain but Probable. 4] To declare that interpretation of dreams are not allowed is based on an incorrect interpretation of the Holy Tradition referred above. Problem Of People Like Zubair “Ali: Zai. Zubair “Ali Zai was a Semi ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: and at times differed from Mainstream of ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: scholars from Major issues. But he did not want to expose himself. However if his works are studied minutely his deviations from mainstream of ‘Ahlul H:ad:th:. He did believe that all Muqallidi:n are Ka:fir, a belief that is discarded by the Main Stream of ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: inspite of all their disputes with Muqallidi:n. His views about Yazi:d were extremely opposing crossing the moderate views of ‘Ahlul H:di:th: about him. That is why his followers are returning to the main stream of ‘Ahlul H:di:th after his death. Followers of Zubair “Ali: Zai are unable to interpret dreams and discard the knowledge of Interpretation of Dreams. The former student of Zubair “Ali: Zai who is the Engineer of City of Jhelum Known by the composite Noun Muh:ammad “Ali: Mirza: ( 7) does not recognize the Science/ Knowledge (8)of Interpretation as valid just because of the following reasons:= 1] It is not certain. 2] It is not revealed. That is its principles are not revealed in Divine Revelation/Aspiration [Vah:y]. 3] Its rules are not obtained from Experiments of Science [ in the modern meaning]. 4] Its rules are not obtained from Scientific Observations. These rules are discussed in a separate article. But as for this article it is sufficient to say that these rules or principles or what so ever they are incorrect and wrong. Who so ever have devised them did commit a great error . Page 11 of 31


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A DREAM WITH AN EVENT OR AN ACT OF KUFR MAY HAVE SOME GOOD INTERPRETATIONS. It is possible that an Event of Kufr is seen in a dream yet it may have some [ atleast one] very good interpretations. A staunch follower of the “Ali:mirzaic view may reject this claim just by saying ‘Astaghfarullah. But this is not sufficient. He must have to provide an Explicit [ S:ari:h:] , S:ah:i:h: [Correct/ A tradition of First Category] and Qat:’iyuddala:lah tradition which should state that “ If a dream of an event or an act of Kufr is seen then it cannot have a good interpretation”. If such a traditions is not found then such a claim is just a conjecture. It is generally found that when the Engineer of Jhelum is unable to respond properly he begins to ask questions to his opponents instead of presenting a proper reply. This is his weakness which exposes that he does not have a positive and a definitive reply. Suppose that the Engineer of Jhelum asks to provide a tradition with the above stated criteria to prove the claim that such a dream may have some good interpretations. But there is a difference between a Necessity an Impossibility and a Contingency. A Claim “ If an Act or an Event of Kufr is seen in a dream then it cannot have a good interpretation” is true then it requires at least one proof from traditions stated above. But if no proof is presented then the claim is incorrect . If the claim is unproved and an unproved claim is incorrect in religion [or in the science of religion] then this implies he contingency . So the absence of the proofs of claim of impossibility becomes a proof of contingency. The composite word “Cannot” means impossibility. So the claim may be rewritten in the following sentence. IF AN ACT OR EVENT OF KUFR IS SEEN IN A DREAM THEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A GOOD INTERPRETATION. Now as this claim is unproved then this constitutes a proof for the contingency. So the following claim is proved. If an act or event of Kufr is seen in a Dream then it is Possible/Contingent to Have a Good Interpretation. Now this may be re-sentenced as follow:= If an act OR AN Event of Kufr is seen in a dream then it can have a good interpretation. The word Can is used to shew Possibility or contingency or both. ( 9) Page 12 of 31


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An other approach to this is as fallow:= IF AN ACT OR EVENT OF KUFR IS SEEN IN A DREAM THEN IT MUST HAVE A NOT-GOOD INTERPRETATION. This is an other form of the claim . If this claim is true then there must be at least one H:adi:th: with the stated above Criteria. If there is no such proof then the claim is incorrect and wrong. This claim may be resentenced as follow with the word Necessary. Since the English word Must is used to denote the meaning of the word “Necessary”. IF AN ACT OR EVENT OF KUFR IS SEEN IN A DREAM THEN IT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE A NOT-GOOD INTERPRETATION. As this claim it incorrect and wrong due to non existence of a proof stated above, it implies contingency and not impossibility since impossibility also requires a proof as the Necessity requires it. Once again the Contingency and Possibility are implied. So the following claim is implied again:= If an act or event of Kufr is seen in a Dream then it is Possible/Contingent to Have a Good Interpretation. Absence of Proofs from these two opposite claims becomes a proof for the claim of contingency. Even Engineer “Ali: Mirza of Jhelum also uses the argument of absence of proofs when he finds this type suitable for his views which he presents them as certainties. Ignoring the difference between Practical Contingency and Religious Permission the Engineer of Jhelum uses the very same argument i.e the argument of absence of proper proof to support his favourite act of Oral Sexuality with Espouses. In one of his lectures he rejects a tradition ascribed to Mother of Mu’mini:n Saiyiduna: “A:’ishah RD: as weak Tradition ; this tradition is used by those who believe that Oral Sexuality is prohibited in ‘Isla:m. But the Engineer uses the weakness of this tradition as a permission of Oral Sexuality. This is a disgrace of the Holy Prophet which is committed by the Engineer. Since what he wants to ascribe to the Holy Prophet is something contrary or something contradictory to the text of the tradition [‘Astagh:farullah]. But it cannot be . It is discussed in a separate article and may be seen there. But in the present article it must be noted that the Engineer Of Jhelum himself uses the absence of proof as a proof of the permission of act of Oral Sexuality.[ Na”u:dh:ubillah]. ( 10)This does shew that the Engineer does recognize the absence of Proof of a claim as a proof of another claim. So by his own standard he cannot reject the argumentation from the absence of proofs stated above. How ever we may still reject is attempted proof from the the Absence of proofs due to certain reasons which are beyond the scope of the present article. However it may be the right place to point at the fact that There is a difference between Possibility and Permission of a religious act. Additionally it must be noted that no act can be ascribed to the Holy Prophet if it is not proved that the act was never done by the Holy Prophet. Any one who ascribes any thing to the Holy Prophet wrongly and deliberately is sure to go to Hell/Fire as the Tradition is this regard is Mutva:tir. When the Engineer considers the Tradition “Man Kuntu Maula --------” as Mutva:t-r on the testimony of Shaikh: ‘Alba:ni and Zubair Page 13 of 31


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“Ali: Zai he must accept that the tradition which prophesize Hell/Fire for the one who ascribes to Holy Prophet , some thing “ wrongly and deliberately” , also as Mutva:t-r. ( 11) Any how it is proved that even upon the standard of the Engineer of Jhelum this argument that is presented above is powerful and not weak. Once again it may be the case that Engineer “Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum repeats his conjecture as if it is a certain belief that “A Dream of Kufr cannot have a good interpretation” or “A Dream of Kufr must have a Not Good Interpretation”.(

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Once again it may be answered as follow:= Suppose that a Person [Rational Suppositum] dreams that he is worshipping a Gh:airullah. To worship any Gh:airullah is a Shirk in the Real World and the Most evil act, with out any shadow of doubt. But this dream may have a good interpretation. It may be interpreted that the person in the example shall not worship any Gh:airullah in his entire life. A good interpretation of an act of Shirk in the Dream World. Some other interpretations are also possible which may not be as good as the stated above interpretation. However it once again be reminded that “If an Evil Act say an Act of Kufr is dreamt it may have a good interpretation and it may have a bad interpretation” . It is up to the interpreter to decide the final interpretation. But according to the lectures of the Engineer and his question answer sessions it it exposed that he believes that such dreams have only bad interpretations and any one who opts a good interpretation is either a Blasphemer or an Infidel or a Heretic or ant two of the three or all of the three. We do contradict it. A dream of a Non Muslim may have a different interpretation. Even two similar dreams of two different Muslims may have two different interpretations. Although none of the two are certain but they may be probable . Since the Science of Interpretation it self is a Probable type of information. So it is also possible that if a person sees in a dream that he is worshipping a Gh:airullah it may mean that the person is a great transgressor etc. How to interpret a dream of a person depends on many factors and the faith or faithlessness of the dreamer is one of these factors. To reject an interpretation is one thing and to declare that an interpretation is Kufr is another thing and the latter is the issue of this article. A DREAM WITH AN EVENT OR AN ACT OF KUFR MAY NOT BE SATANIC. A dream can only be Satanic if its Interpretation is Bad. Whether a Dream is Satanic or not depends upon the meaning of the interpretation. So if the meaning of an Act or Event of Kufr in a Dream is good then the Dream is not Satanic. The Claim that a dream of Kufr must be Satanic or cannot be Not Satanic requires a Proof from H:adi:th: . The rest of the arguments and argumentations are similar to the immediate above arguments and argumentations. Page 14 of 31


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A DREAM WITH AN EVIL EVENT OR AN EVIL ACT LESS THAN KUFR MAY HAVE SOME GOOD INTERPRETATIONS. If an act of Kufr or Shirk in the Dream World may have a good interpretation then a dream in which an Evil act or Event less that Kufr or Shirk is seen, what so ever it may be may also have a good or a Not Bad Interpretation. A DREAM WITH AN EVIL EVENT OR AN EVIL ACT LESS THAN KUFR MAY NOT BE SATANIC. As it is stated above that := “If an act of Kufr or Shirk in the Dream World may have a good interpretation then a dream in which an Evil act or Event less that Kufr or Shirk is seen, what so ever it may be may also have a good or a Not Bad Interpretation.” As the decision whether a Dream is Satanic or not merely depends upon the Meaning of Interpretation and not upon the event or act seen in the dream, it is very clear that an event or act which is evil in Real World and less than Kufr and Less than Shirk may not be Satanic”.

THE VISION OF S:U:FIA [MYSTICS] WHILE BEING AWAKE It is stated that S:u:fia can develop a state in which they can have visions while being awake Actually it is a type of Dream which is seen not in the state of sleeping but in the state of awakening . This state is developed by deep concentrations and mediations and has great resemblance with dreams. Some S:u:fia who are unable to distinguish between Real World and Vertual Worlds like Dream World, Thought World [World of Thought] consider it in Real World, but it is actually a special case of Dream World . So it is subjected to very same laws of Dreams. How ever Philosophers ,Fuqha:’ and Muh:addith:u:n do not experience such a state and such types of dreams they deny it. But things are different for those who have experienced it. But suppose that such a state and such types of dreams are impossible. If so even then if it true that If such Types are Possible then the Laws of Dreams and State of Sleeping are applicable o them. The formation is If A then B. Now if atomic statement B is false and atomic statement A is True then the molecular statement “If A then B” is false. But if Atomic statement A is false and Atomic Statement B is True then the molecular statement “If A then B” is True. If both A and B are false even then “If A then B” is True. So if S:ufia apply the rules of dream to their alleged state they cannot be declared as Ka:fir. At best it is a type of Hallucination or Delusion . These are just state of minds. These does not exist external to the holder of the mind. So the events seen are just in the mind of the holder of mind and the mind is some thing Per Se Subsistent and not an accident and a part of the Substance of the Person [Rational Suppositum]. Page 15 of 31


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They are just accidents and not Abstractions or Relations. There fore like all accidents require a Substance or an Per Se Subsistent Essence. Similarly Deep and concentrated thoughts are nothing but Accidents that is why Thoughts are Per Se Absurd Upon Divine Essence. Although one may disagree with S:ufiya [S:u:fia] in regard to the Existences of such states their Per Se Possibility cannot be denied. They are not Per Se Absurd. That is why We may dispute with S:u:fiya but neither declare them as Heretic nor Infidel. How ever if aS:u:fi believes in some heresy then he is a Heretic due to the heresy. As for day dreaming activities and practices they may be declared as a mental exercise but cannot be declared as prohibited unless the involve any thing Heretic. ( 12) Mental Diseases like hallucination and delusions are undeniable and if such things exist which resemble to the S:u:fis’ Visions while being awaken then one does accept them in Possibility if not in Occurrence. If it is accepted that all such visions are hallucinations even then one cannot be declared as Ka:fir or Heretic due to hallucinations. Similarly the case is with the interpretation of a hallucination if any. “ALI: MIRZA: AND TAKFI:R OR TAFSI:Q ON DREAMS. Engineer “Ali: Mirza: often makes his judgements about Scholars [“Ulama:’] and Saints [‘Auliya:’] of ‘Ahlussunnah based upon some dreams the visualized or upon the interpretations of dreams which they made, which are ascribed to them in different books. 1] If some one sees a dream that is of an Evil Act , he claims that the mentality of the dreamer was Evil. He neglects the fact that a person of good mentality may see an Evil Act or Event in the Dream. 2] If some one sees an event of Heresy or something in visualized from in dream which is believed by Heretics , he judges that the person did believed in the heresy. 3]If some one sees an act of Kufr or Shirk he verdicts that the person is a kafir or a mushrik or has tendencies OR likeness towards Kufr or Shirk . 4] If someone dreams an act of Kufr or Shirk or Evil ;and an interpreter makes a good interpretation of it he issues the degree of Kufr or Shirk to the interpreter. 5] If someone dreams an act of Kufr or Shirk or Evil ; then the Dream is from Satan [Satanic Dream] and any one who do not consider it as Satanic or makes a good interpretation of it, such that in regard to meaning it is not Satanic then the Engineer of Jhelum issues the degree of Kufr or Shirk to the interpreter. 6] If a Person [Rational Suppositum;Pl Rational Supposita] sees any thing heretic or contrary to the Texts Of‘A:ya:t of Qur’a:n or Contrary to the Texts of Traditions of ‘Ah:a:di:th: of First Category , then the dreamed violation of the FROM the Stated above Texts is the belief of the person who had dreamt it. 7] If a Person [Rational Suppositum;Pl Rational Supposita] sees any thing heretic or contrary to the Texts Of‘A:ya:t of Qur’a:n or Contrary to the Texts of Traditions of ‘Ah:a:di:th: of First Category ; and Page 16 of 31


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someone interpretes the the dream which violates of the FROM the Stated above Texts in good meaning then the person who interprets the stated above violation in a good meaning , then the person who interprets also violates the said Holy Texts and believes in some thing that is contrary to them. But it has been discussed above that all these alleged claims are wrong, false and incorrect. There is no Text of Tradition of H:adi:th: of first category to support any one of the seven claim neither in total nor in parts. So all these claims become false allegations; baseless amorphisms and proof -less opinions and invalid rules. Based upon them Engineer “Ali: Mirza: has declared Great ‘Ima:ms ,Scholars, Saints, Dialectics of ‘Ahlussunnsh Val Jama:”ah as Ka:fir or M-rtadd or Mushrik or Heretic or Transgressor etc. But none of his claim is acceptable. His problem is that he considers any one of his deduction from any Revealed Text of ‘A:yah Of Qur’a:n as revealed. But in Reality even a Correct Deduction or Derivation from a Revealed Text is not Revealed. Deductions from the Revealed Texts are the acts of Ghairullah whether correct or incorrect , and Revelation is the Act of Divine Essence [Dh:a:tul Ba:ri: ] Himself.

Epologue 1] If a Rational Suppositum sees an Evil Act or Event whether he be the agent of the act or event or not in the Dream it is not necessary that the Interpretation of the Dream is Evil or bad. 2] If a Rational Suppositum sees an Evil Act or Event in a Dream whether he be an agent of the act or event in the dream or not , it is not necessary that the Dream is Stanic. 3] If a Rational Suppositum sees some thing contrary to Text of any ‘A:yah or Text of any H:adi:th: of First Category , and some one else interpretes it in a good meaning it is not necessary that the Suppositum who interprets it in good meaning believes in some thing contrary to the Holy Texts. 4] If a Rational Suppositum sees some thing contrary to Text of any ‘A:yah or Text of any H:adi:th: of First Category , and he himself interpretes it in a good meaning it is not necessary that the Suppositum who dreams and interprets it himself believes in some thing contrary to the Holy Texts. Page 17 of 31


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An Evil act or event may vary from minimum Evil Act or Event or belief to the maximum evil act or event or belief [which are Definitely Kufr and Shirk] or some thing between the two extremes. [Generally the word Bad is considered as more General then the Word Evil, but in this article we have used the word bad in the meaning of Evil, how ever if the word Bad is used in the general meaning stated above , the article remains valid.] 5] One must differential between Real World and Virtual Worlds like Dream World [World of Dreams], Thought World [World of Thoughts], Abstract World [World of Abstractions] ,Imagination World [World of Imaginations] etc. They are all different types of existing worlds, and a Non Existing World is neither a Real World nor a Virtual World. NOTE: This debate Engineer “Ali: Mirza cleverly began from a false allegation on ‘Ahlussunnah of Sa”u:di Government that they are intending to break the Dome of the H:-jrah of Holy Prophet , But this is a false accusation on Sa”u:dib Government. Some Anti Sa”u:di Elements use to spread rumors against Sa”u:di Government on regular basis. A decade earlier such Heretic elements spread a rumor that Sa”u:di Government is going to destroy the Grave of the Mother of Holy Prophet. But this was exposed. Now Engineer “Ali: Mirza: used a less spread rumour against Sa”u:di Government that they are going to break the Green Coloured Dome of H:ujrah of Saiyidatuna “A:’ISHAH RD: in which the Graves Of Holy Prophet and First Two Caliphs exists. But instead of refuting these false rumours the Heretic Engineer “Ali: Mirza: who has even declared Saiyiduna: ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RH: as Committer of several Kufrs , H:at:ib Ibn ‘Abi Balta”ah as Muna:fiq [ Na”u:dh:ubillah] , Saiyiduna: Mu”a:viah RD: as committer of Several Fisqs , Saiyiduna: “Umar as a committer of Errors in the Event of Qalam and Q-rt:a:s, denier of ‘Ijma:” on Thirty Parts of Holy Qur’a:n , Claimant that Martyrdom of Saiyiduna: “Uth:ma:n was a Kaffa:rah [atonement] of his errors [Na”u:dh:ubillah] etc. found a opportunity to declare some ‘Ahlussunnah as Kafir on the basis of some dreams and their interpretations. So it became necessary to discuss the false views of the Engineer of Jhelum which he represents as if they are facts. False allegations against the Sa”u:di Government shall be discussed and then refuted in regard to the above stated alleged events shall be discussed separately ‘Insha:’All-h.

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[1]That is why such Acts are Per Se Absurd [Muh:a:lu Bidh: Dh:a:ti Upon Divine Essence [Dh:a:tul Ba:ri:]. [2] One Must differentiate between Naqs: “Ala: Dh:atul Ba:ri: and Naqs: “Alal H:a:dith: . As ‘Al Kala:m ‘Al Lafz:i: is H:a:dith: [Not Eternal] it is Gh:airullah according to a very Large Majority of ‘Ahlussunnah Val Jama:”ah , hence Kidh:b upon It is Included in Naqs: “Ala: Gh:airullah and not included in Naqs: “Alallah. So If Naqs: “Ala Gh:airullah Implies Naqs: “Alallah then the Naqs: “Ala Gh:airullah is Per Quad Absurd [Absurd with Separate] and Not Per Se Absurd [Absurd in Itself/Self Absurd].

[3]

One must differentiate between Astronomy [“Ilm hiyatil ‘Afla:k ] and Astrology [“Ilmu ‘Ath:-ra:tin Ni-

ju:m]. Former is allowed in ‘Isla:m and the Latter is prohibited in ‘Isla:m.

[4] Some Heretics ascribe Jufr to Ja”far Bin Muh:ammad a Sunni “A:lim who is mistaken as a Non Sunni ‘Ima:m by some of his alleged followers. But This art of Divination is unknown to this scholar. It is incorrectly ascribed to him.

[5]

One must differentiate Mathematics and Arithmetic from Numerology. Actually this Art has

nothing to do with Mathematics and any one of its branches. Like Arithmetic, Geometry, Topology, Number theory , ,Set Theory, Calculus ,Differential Equations etc.

[6] R-m-l is ascribed to Prophet Da:niya:l, a Hebrew Prophet to whom a Book of Canon Of Jewish Tanakh is ascribed to. But he has nothing to do with R-m-l. For short predictions of future this type of Divination is considered as more accurate then others by Divinatists. But for purpose of long period of time Divinatists prefer other system. The basic of this method depend upon the following type of Multiplications. 1*1=1,0*0=1, 1*0=0 AND 0*1=0. A Set S={0,1} With the Operator of R-M-L forms a Group.

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[7] Muh:ammad “Ali: Mirza: use the Common Noun Engineer as a Part of His Proper Noun and uses it as if it is a Prefix , as Engineer Muh:ammad “Ali: Mirza: . But this is due to the reason that in Persia there was a man called Mirza: Muh:ammad “Ali: a Babi: , so the word Mirza just commutes in the noun of these two person. But as the Mirza: Muh:ammad “Ali: was not an Engineer , so Muh:ammad “Ali: Mirza: placed the word Engineer in the beginning of his noun to differentiate him other wise people must have thought to a possible relation between these two persons on some religious grounds. A very cleaver trick indeed, yet it may be noted that the Word Engineer is not in general practice to be used as an initial part of a noun of a person in Jhelum and in Pulja:b the province in which the City of Jhelum belongs to.

[8] The word Science is derived from the Latin word Esientia which means Knowledge. The derived word Science in English may be used in the meaning of Knowledge. But it is generally used for the subject of Science, which does have a very specific meaning. How ever in “Arabic the word “Ilm is used for both the meanings. 1] Knowledge. 2] Science in the specific meaning. It must be noted that the word Science even in English may be used in the meaning of Knowledge as well. But not in general. From the point of view of the first meaning i.e Knowledge , the Knowledge of Revelation may be termed as Science of Revelation, but from the point of view of Specific Subject , Knowledge Of Revelation cannot termed as Science of Revelation. But we may still use the word Science for the Knowledge of Revelation and Aspiration [Vah:y] using the word in the meaning of Knowledge since Knowledge of Revelation is not art. Similarly the Subject of Mathematics is Neither Science nor Arts in regard to the specific meaning or the words Science and Arts [Fnu:n] but in the meaning of Knowledge Mathematics may be called Knowledge of Mathematics [“Ilm ‘Ar riya:d:i]. Similarly the “Ilmul “-ru:d: may be termed as Knowlwdge of “-RU:D: .

[9] The words Possibility and Contingency are not synonyms in general as they are assumed. Possible means Not Impossible whether Necessary or Contingent. Contingent means Neither Necessary Nor Impossible. Incontingent may mean Necessary or Impossible. The word Absurd is used for the purest forms of Impossibility. How ever in the case of the above sentences in the Text of this article, the word Possible and Contingent are used as synonyms unless and otherwise stated EXPLICITLY.

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some heresies innovated by them or by others. But Engineer “Ali: Mirza: although dislike their argument from this heretic rule himself uses it where he wills and this exposes his tendencies for the controversial act of Oral Sexuality , which even is not supported by the heretics in general. Engineer “Ali: Mirza: tries to prove that ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RH: was a denouncer of M-TVA:T-T H:adi:th: [ Na”u:dh:ubillah]. Every one knoweth that one who denounceth a M-TVA:T-R H:ADI:TH: is a Ka:fir , so what this Engineer engineers is the alleged conclusion that ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimaiah is a Ka:fir [Na”u:dh:billah ] . How ever the wanted to deceive ‘Ahlul H:adi:th: by arguing that he is not using the word Ka:fir for the Great ‘Ima:m. But now every thing is exposed. He not only believes that ‘Ima:m ‘Ibn Taimiah RH: is Ka:fir [ ‘Astaghfarullah] but also believes that ‘Ima:m ‘Abu H:ani:fah RH: is Ka:fir [Astaghfarullah ] and the S:ufi: “Ali: H-jv-ri: is Kakir [Astaghfarullah]. Wate and see how many great scholars of Sunnism he is going to declare as Kafir or Blasphemer or both in future either directly by using the word Ka:fir or indirectly by ascribing towards them acts or believes which are Kufr with certainty or falsly declaring an act or belief as Kufr [‘Astaghfarullah ]. It is clear that this person who is known by the composite Noun Engineer Muh:ammad “Ali: Mirza: is greately inspired by Rtd Cap. Dr “Uth:ma:ni: and his horrible book “Tauh:i:d e: Kh:alis: part 1, . Engineer “Ali: Mirza: is following the methodology used in this book. How ever this Engineer of Jhelum is against the second part of this book [with the title Tauh:i:d e: Kh:alis: Part 2] . (Actually Rtd Cap. “Uth:ma:ni: has used the word QIST: for Part .)

[11]

He is making the minds of his audiences to accept his fallacies which he deliberately makes during

his question and answer secessions as reported . So it is necessary to discuss his fallacies so that even his audiences may know the what sort of arguments he is presenting in form of his lectures and alleged research papers, with distorted quotations.

[12] Actually the human brain gets messages from different organs. When a human person sees a thing light falls on the eyes and then eyes send messages to brain and brain interprets them and act of seeing is occurred . It is supposed that if some how the same messages are sent to brain as send by eyes when they receive light reflected from objects, the brain shall do the same and shall see things even if they are not present externally. While Sleeping the Brain functionhs as if it is receiving messages from some objects and images are seen . Why such thing happen is a problematic debate, but there are two things in dreams in general. 1]A dream is a short story , often incomplete. 2] There is a Plot in the events of a story of a dream in general. It may be theorized that there is a story writing tendency in the brain or mind of a human person which acts semi arbitrarily while sleeping.

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This is purely a material approach of dreams. As it does appear that the Engineer does only have this approach of dreams and not Symbolic formation approach of dreams which encode some meanings in those heavenly chosen symbols which are decoded by the interpreters /interpretists of dreams , is likely to chose this approach to the Dream World [World of Dreams].

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‘=

‫ﭐﺀ‬ ,

B,b=

T,t=

‫ﺏ‬

‫ﺕ‬

Th:,th:=

J,j=

‫ﺚ‬

‫ﺝ‬

H:,h:=

‫ﺡ‬

Kh:,kh:=

D,d=

‫ﺥ‬

‫ﺪ‬

Dh:,dh:=

R,r=

‫ﺫ‬

‫ﺭ‬

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Z,z=

‫ﺯ‬

S,s=

‫ﺱ‬

Sh,sh.Sch,sch,=

S:,s:=

‫ﺹ‬

D:,d:=

T:,t:=

‫ﺽ‬

‫ﻂ‬

Z:,z:=

“=

‫ﺵ‬

‫ﻅ‬

‫ﻉ‬

Gh:,gh:=

‫ﻍ‬

F,f,Ph,ph=

Q,q=

‫ﻑ‬

‫ﻕ‬

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K,k,C,c=

L,l=

‫ﻚ‬

‫ﻝ‬

M,m=

‫ﻣ‬

N,n=

‫ﻥ‬

H,h=

‫ﻩﻫ‬

T,t/h,H

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‫ﺓ‬ V,v,W,w=

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A,a [as A/a in Sugar, E,e in Per, as U,u in But, as I/I in Sir] =

I,i [as I/i in Pin,Tin,] =

‫ﹷ‬

‫ﹻ‬

U,u [As U/u in Put, as oo in Book] =

‫ﹹ‬

Long Vowel

A: ,a:[As A/a in Car,Father] =

‫ﹷﺍ‬

I:,i: [As I in Police, as ee in Week] =

U:,u: [As U in Rude, as oo in Cool] =

‫ﹿﹻ ﻱ‬ ‫ﹿﻮﹹ‬

The symbols on case of vowels in red colour are optional Some time the symbol “-“ is used to omit a Marked Vowel for example Kita:b may be written as K-ta:b, sometime this is used to denote an Accent, eg ‘Akbaru may be written as ‘Ak-baru, some time it is used to present both of the stated above in a single transliterated “Arabic Word as follow: ‘Ak-b-ru or Ak-b-r- and so one.

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Va “An ‘Abi: Hurairata Qa:la Ja:’a Na:sun Mmin ‘As:h:abi Rasu:lullahi [S:allalla:hu “Alaihi Va Sallama] ‘Ilannabi:yi Fasa:’alu:hu ‘Inna Nujidu Fi: ‘Anfus ina Ma: Yata”a:z:amu ‘Ah:aduna ‘An YYatakallam Bihi: Qa:la ‘A Va Qad Vajadttumu:hu Qa:lu: Na”am Qa:la Dh:a:ka S:ari:h:ul ‘I:ma:ni . Explanation The text of the Tradition of Holy Muslim Saith that some Companions of Holy Prophet came to him and informed Him that they some time have such thoughts which they cannot bring in speech. Holy Prophet first enquired about such events and they replied in affirmation. Holy Prophet did say that it is Pure Faith. This means some time human mind conceive such thoughts which a person cannot bring in sentences due to the reason that these thought are about every bad events. But Holy Prophet made a very Good interpretation that this is the reason that there is Faith in the companions. What so ever that is true for the Thoughts in minds is also true for dreams. Holy Prophet however did not asked about the thoughts and did state a principle. Any thought which is about some thing so bad or evil so that it cannot be expressed by the thinker is due to faith. Holy Prophet did not declared such thoughts as Satanic. He did not make a bad interpretation of such thought. He did make a very good interpretation. A thought may be of Kufr or Shirk or any other transgression. A Muslim does not like to express such thoughts in sentences of speech. So Thought of a bad event it self is not a bad in itself since it is just an Accident and not a substance and is sustained in the Substance or the Essence of the Rational Suppositum which /who is called as thinker. What so ever is true for Thoughts is true for Dreams. In the Tradition the words are “Varily We Find In Our Selves….”. Any thing that is found in the self of a Rational Suppositum is a Thought. This is for thoughts. If the Engineer “Ali Mirza: opines that what so ever is stated for thoughts is not true for dreams then this is his opinion. He cannot compel others to accept his opinion. A large number of scholars do consider both under same principle. Note: The word Speech is used as singular as well as plural. Speeches is a forced plural , some time used when it becomes necessary to use a plural word in a sentence. But in this article we have used the word Speech , whether it be a plural or it be a singular depending on the requirement of the meanings of the sentences in their respective contexts.

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