BISMILLAHIRRAH:MA:NIRRAH:I:M A DISCUSSION ON H:ADIS:. NO:18430 MASNAD AH:MAD. [ CATEGORY:2 =H:ASAN] Engineer Ali Mirza Jhelumi considers that the Caliphate of Saiyiduna Mu”aviya RD belongs to the period of Biting Monarchy. He in his so paper[ English 5-b] has copied this H:adis with out proper explanation. The name of the paper is engineered that one may include the period of this Sahabi in period this period. This provided us a chance to discuss this Hadis and to give a proper explanation. The Text of H:adi:s:. may be seen in MASNAD AH:MAD IT SELF. It may be studied even in Paper 5-b on: www.ahlesunnatpak .com [the official website of Ali Mirzites\Jhelumites\Engineerites]
Summary of H:ADI:S:. Holy Prophet [SAVS] Hath Stated [in H:ADI:S:.#18430;MASNAD] Five Periods in an order. He Did State that after the end of one period the next period shall begin, (not before it, and two periods cannot overlap as the Text Of Hadis Implieth). 1] Period Of Prophethood [ Or Ministry Of Holy Prophet [S:”AVS] ,say Period α 2] Period Of Guided Caliphate , say Period β 3] Period of Biting Monarchy , say Period γ 4] Period of Oppressing Morarchy, say Period δ 5]] Period of Revival of Guided Caliphate , say Period ε Engineer Ali Mirza OF Jhelum incorrectly attempt to include the Period of Saiyiduna Mu”aviah [ 661AC,680AC] or [658AC,680AC] in period γ But this is incorrect. The Periods α,β,γ,δ,ε are consecutive periods respectively but not immediate consecutive.That is there may be an intermediate period [how so ever small or how so ever great]
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There may be a gap of some days or some months or some years or some decades or some centuries or some millenniums between any two consecutively stated periods.
Mathematical Example.: There are infinite numbers between any two consecutive Whole Numbers. •
EXAMPLE FROM H:ADIS:.= There is a H:ADIS:. ABOUT TWELEVE GUIDED CALIPHS [KHALI:FAH,Pl:KH-LFA:H] but they are not one after another with immediateness.Raither there is inter-caliphatic in between some stated Caliphs.
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Possible Models Under the Condition Of Immediateness Imply External Contradictions:-
There may be some unsolvable problems if the condition of Immediateness is imposed as according to the system developed by the Engineer Ali Mirza.
First Possible Model UNDER THIS condition. Period Of Prophethood [Ministry Of Prophet SAVS]=α Let α=[610,632] [years in Julian Calender unless and other wise stated] Period of Guided Caliphate =β Let β=[632,661] Let suppose the Period Of Calphate Of Muaviah is Excluded from it. Period of Biting Monarchy [ First Monarchy]=γ Let It be the Period Of Banu Umaiyah This Supposition implies γ=[661,750] Period of Oppressing Monarchy [Second Monarchy]=δ Let it be the Abbasid Caliphate Of Baghdad =[751,1258] Let δ=[750,1258] Then under the condition of immediateness the Revival Of Guided Caliphate [AND Caliph] MUST be after 1258. Infact in this period there was no Caliph at all. So the Entire supposition becomes incorrect.
Second Possible Model UNDER THIS condition. Let the period δ=[750,1517]=[750,1258] U [1261,1517]
Note:There was no Caliphate in years i.e 1259,1260
WHERE:Abbasid Caliphate of Baghdad [750,1258] Abbasid of Cairo [1261,1517]
In this system the Revival of Caliphate Must be in the year 1517. This means Ottaman Empire is the Caliphate on the Way Of Prophet. Is the The belief of Engineer Ali Mirza?? Was the First Caliph of Ottoman Empire the Guided Caliph according to the Engineer???? If so even this is incorrect. Third Possible Model UNDER THIS condition. Let the period of Oppressing Monarchy be the period Including Abbasid [ both periods] and Ottoman Period.
i.e δ=[750,1923] When the Ottoman Empire \Caliphate was abolished by cursed Ata Turk [the heretic and infidel]. This means the revival of Guided Caliphate would be in 1923 AC. But , “since 1923 AC there is no Caliphate”.
This is a proof that Engineer Ali Mirza’s Condition of Immediateness is Incorrect and Wrong. TRUE EXPLANATION The condition of Immediateness is incorrect and must be dropped. So there may be some intermediate periods between The Guided Caliphate and Biting Mornarghy. It is the Guided Caliphatic Monarchy of Siyiduna Mu”aviah RD. NOTE WE HAVE LEFT THE DISCUSSIONS OF CALIPHATE OF SAIYIDUNA “ABDULLAH BIN ZUBAIR RD, CALIPHATE OF BANU UMAIYAH IN SPAN, AND CALIPHATE OF SAYID AHMAD SHAHEED IN N.W.F.P IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT. There addition is an additional proof that there may be some intermediate periods and Holy Prophet never imposed the condition of immediateness, it is just in the mind if Engineer Ali Mirza. NOTE PLEASE NEGLECT SPELLINGS ERROR. A REQUEST TO ALL REAL SUNNIS:= PLEASE PRAY FOR MY SON’S EYE PROBLEM. His eye has been injured. ALLAHU ACBARU CABIRA. No request for praying from Engineeriah sect and the founder Engineer. MAY ALLAH HELP MY SON HIM. AMIN.
BUT FOR ALL-H’S SAKE DO NOT STUDY THE PAPERS OF ENGINNER ALI MIRZA UNLESS AND OTHERWISE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IS FALLACIES. Do not listen to his sermons unless and otherwise you have thorough knowledge of the topic. Always remember The Engineer is an Hiiden RAFID:I: . A threat to THE BELIEVES OF Ahlussunnah and lovers of S:H:ABAH [RD]. ALLAHU ACBARU CABIRA