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Manatee
11-29-2003 10:18 AM
THIS IS MY VEIW ONLY....BUT THANKS FOR THE SLAP IN THE FACE LLC!!! Wednesday, I heard rumors that Mark and I were going to be named to the APBA Hall of Champions....but nothing official from LLC....some of us, if named had something planned for the award. But...I did not hear from LLC...but did get a call from Fred from APBA Detroit...during the new 5 year deal with APBA and LLC...LLC would have to pay $4000.00 for the Hall of Champions....APBA has been in contact with LLC about the money....and thanks to Fred saving his e-mails so he has proof....LLC said they did not have the money....so there would be no Hall of Champions for Offshore....But someone, not a owner of LLC...a member of the LLC Staff got involved to see what could be done for the racers...the dead line for the money has already passed..but this Staff member talk to Fred to see what could be done...and I thank him for looking out for the racers...and the out come was if the racers would pay for the award that LLC had to pay we would still get the award....but the money had to be payed by yesterday...which is when Fred called on a conferance call with Mark and I.....I know nothing on how APBA Detroit is run...but I do know Fred answer every question we had and we talked for about 40 minutes...I like someone who saves e-mails so they can prove that they did what they said...even know the 2nd deadline has passed he is still going to work with us to get them the money by Sat. or Monday....so to Fred I say thank you for your time and a good coversation.....as far as LLC...alot of this problem happend under Mike A. watch who was fully aware of what was going on....Fred did say when he contacted Gordon K. he was not aware of all of this...but there was no money to pay for it.....My problem is why were the racers not informed of the problem and given the option to pay it....vice just take it away from us.....Mark and I have busted our ass for 3 years of racing and Mark has had 2 knee operations and I have had 2 back surgeries in 2 years for this sport to get where we are today....and to have LLC to decided that we would not recieve the award is a joke.... We came to Orange Beach to race in good faith of Mark N. letter of the changes....and I know alot of this has to do with another one of Mike A. cluster f#cks and thats who I hold responsable...So Mike A. just because you have issues with APBA your a joke for getting in the way of the racers getting a award from APBA Detroit... A few, and only a few people have told me some of the things I write. I have set back racing 5 years....If telling the truth sets this sport back 5 years what kinda sport is this....so I don't believe those comments..but sum people have their noise so far up someones ass you can only see there sneakers....and you can live your life that way...but I will stand up for whats right and wrong.. This post is not for people to take sides....if Mike A. would have put his ego aside and told us I could have went out and found a sponsor to have payed the $4000.00 in return for a tiney spot on the LLC website but NO!! So Mike A. its not all about you!!! Its also about the racers that race for LLC....so you trying to let this award go away like its no big deal and your problems are more important is a slap in the face...not only on me but on this sport...and by me writing this I'm showing you the same respected you have shown to me...NONE!!! As far as APBA Detriot....who took the time to call us...and who is going to honnor us for a award that they don't even have me as a APBA member but I payed LLC....Thank you for this award and braking the deadline twice for us. So to sponors and potental sponsors of this sport and fans....if you are upset at this post...only be mad at me and no other racer....but maybe now this will never happen again. Gino M.
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rpusillo
4/26/12 8:54 AM
11-29-2003 11:03 AM
Gino, Just let us know where to send a donation and I'm certain many of us will contribute to honoring your achievements. Keep up the extreme dream! Thanks for sharing your opinions in this OPEN forum. Ray P.S. I saw you at the racers party but didn't get a chance to thank you in person for supporting our World Championships in Orange Beach. You are the MAN!
outer42
11-29-2003 11:15 AM
gino,thats what its about. people may WANT TO HIDE THIS,but you can't. when will the people wake up and get there head out. gordon kraft you need to address this!!!!!!! randy i guess this is alright unless it was you!!!! you guys are crazy to invest in a boat and race apba and have this happen. opa all the way!!!!! you know what you get!!!!
audacity
11-29-2003 11:19 AM
Gino would you have gone to OB if you knew this upfront? Gino you did a GREAT job this year! in every aspect of racing! but i KNOW-it feels like your swimming upstream!! hope it works out for ya!!!
time
11-29-2003 11:41 AM
SPOKEN VERY WELL HOPEFULLY SOON THE NEW LLC OR WHAT EVER IT IS TODAY WILL WORK FOR THE RACER NOT AGAINST THE RACER OR THERE WONT BE RACERS. WITH OUT RACERS WHAT DO YOU HAVE ? WATER AND NO BOATS.
Manatee
11-29-2003 12:34 PM
Ray, Was one of us drunk.....I thought we meet and talked.... anyways if we did'nt I hope we meet soon, we had a great time....and thank you for offering with the donation...it just shows what great sponsors, fans and support we the racers really have Thank You Hey Joe, If they even told us up front they did'nt have the money I would have understand and found a sponsor to pay for all 3 teams that were picked....but we decided on going because of Mark N. letter and they have done everything they said they would.....this problem started with the new 5 year deal with APBA
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xtremeracingf1
4/26/12 8:54 AM
11-29-2003 04:20 PM
Gino, You guys did a great job this year and deserve to be treated better. Award or no award the racers really know you deserve to be in the Hall of Champions,and what ever LLC decides to do that doesnt change a thing. Good luck and I hope things work out for the best,you know the true racers and behind you. Frank Koolhand
Manatee
11-29-2003 05:21 PM
Thanks Frank, Hope we get to run against you soon.... Take care Gino
AugiePensa
11-29-2003 05:24 PM
Gino, doesn't it suck "whomever" can't look you in the eye and give it to you and Mark straight. Well from what I've see this year you guys are TRUE CHAMPIONS! Never let anyone tell you what to think or say, we have a great saying in Jersey.....F#$k 'em. Good luck to you and Mark. Augie
Manatee
11-29-2003 05:33 PM
Augie, It seems I can always count on your support...must be that Jersey thing.....I will be doing some races in OPA for 2004 in something even if I have to brake out that death trap of mine.... Thanks You Gino
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