Beware 90% of Ginseng is Bad For You! Biohacking the Ultimate Ginseng

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Beware 90% of Ginseng is Bad For You! Biohacking the Ultimate Ginseng

Ameer Rosic Wednesday May 14th 2014

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Beware 90% of Ginseng is bad for you! A lot of us have heard of ginseng, we think “Oh, ginseng is a Chinese herb and it’s the most famous Chinese herb, whatever,” but the odds are none of us have ever actually had real ginseng because you can’t buy it in stores and because you really can’t get it unless you know a person. Why is that? Why can’t we get real ginseng?


Well, because it’s just the nature of ginseng! Continue to hear what Brandon has to say about Ginseng In today’s Podcast, “Beware 90% of Ginseng is bad for you: Biohacking the ultimate Ginseng”

Transcript (Listen to the Full Podcast Here): Ameer: Hey Brandon, welcome to the Optimal Health Show, how you doing? Brandon: I’m doing well man. Thanks for having me on. Ameer: It’s my pleasure. I’m curious. How did you get interested in the whole world of herbs? Brandon: Basically, that was really kind of an organic unfolding for me, because as I started off in my journey, I kind of had a mechanistic way of looking at the world where, like many people in the modern world, I just thought plants and herbs and these kind of things were all just kind of stupid and kind of weird and like didn’t really work, didn’t really do anything. So basically, I started from that level of awareness and then as I progressed in my health journey, starting off with meditation and doing yoga and starting to eat better, I started to realize like “Hmm, maybe there’s something going on here.” And then I was looking at what we could call drugs or psychedelics or these powerful plants that have been used throughout history by various different cultures and obviously they’re all basically illegal. So I’m like “Wait, these are all plants and they obviously do something because they’re illegal and because they’ve been used for such a long time,” so I wonder if other plants do other things. And that sort of opened the door to realize like wait, maybe I really wasn’t given the whole story or really given an accurate paradigm of world view to really relate to plants in this way, because we all eat plants. We say “Oh, eat vegetables and fruits because they’re good for you.” Well, those are just plants and I’m like “Well, herbs and these kind of things are just plants too so they must also influence the body in different ways,” so that was really the springboard and sort of the opening, and then from there basically it just falls organically and became interested in using herbs for specifically enhancing meditation or spiritual practices and spiritual development and really from there it sort of just really branch out and took on a life of its own and it was something that really from the beginning kind of felt very natural and very kind of organic for me and something that I picked up really quite easily and quickly and it just really snowballed from that initial impetus. Ameer: What are some herbs that you use to enhance your meditation? Brandon: There are lots of different things that a person can talk about. So for me personally from my situation, because when we talk about herbs or supplements or different lifestyle things, there are generalizations and there are also various specific things depending on the person and the situation and their goals and lifestyle and constitution, all these different factors which we won’t really get into now but for the sake of simplicity, what I personally used are number one will be wild ginseng. A lot of us have heard of ginseng, we think “Oh, ginseng is a Chinese herb and it’s the most famous Chinese herb, whatever,” but the odds are none of us have ever actually had real ginseng because you can’t buy it in stores and because you really can’t get it unless you know a person. Ameer: Why is that? Why can’t we get real ginseng?


Brandon: Well, because it’s just the nature of ginseng. The nature of ginseng is that it’s not really real or really mature until like 15 or 20 plus years old, so that means that plant has to stay in the ground for like 15 or 20 years before it’s even really mature and able to be even used, but that’s really expensive, that takes a long time, so it’s really rare. So people call today and then they say “Oh, well you can just harvest it after 5 to 8 years and it’s just the same, it’s just as good,” so people take even lower quality versions of it and think “Oh, it’s ginseng,” but really that’s not ginseng. It’s like basically saying you are the same person you were when you were infant. Obviously you’re very different, obviously you’re much more evolved and have much more wisdom and consciousness and awareness than you did when you were a little baby, so obviously those things are different. It’s the same thing with these plants, it’s the same thing with many different plants. For that reason, people can’t get it. The second reason is that the real stuff, the really good stuff is really old, and it’s grown wildly, meaning it just grows naturally in the woods and the forest and people go out and find out, and every year there’s less and less and less available in the planet right now, so that makes the price even higher, that makes it more scarce and then everyone sort of guards their supply. For example, in America this past year, wild American ginseng while was going for as high as a thousand or $1500 a pound just for that herb and that’s not even based on quality, that’s not based on age, that’s just based on scarcity because there’s really is not that much of it left. And the ironic thing, the most hilarious thing and I think really the best example of that mindset that I was talking about earlier that I was sort of indoctrinated in is perfectly illustrated in this example. And the example is that 98% to 99% of all wild American ginseng found in America goes to Asia. It means nothing more to Americans than just money. Meaning we don’t understand the value of it, the wisdom of it, but the fact is somebody does because somebody is paying a lot of money for it, so they have to see some value in it other than just a wild plant. There’s definitely an energy there, there’s definitely something that people know about but aren’t necessarily always that conscious of. Like for what I take for myself is like the bottle I’m holding right now is basically, it’s a blend of roots that are anywhere from 50 to 65 years old which is older, double my age basically. Ameer: So why is that though? Like the older the herb, the more potent it is? Is it like there’s a mechanism behind that? Brandon: Well, in some sense basically, once ginseng reaches a certain age, its death gene turns off, which means that it can’t die. Meaning that unless someone comes and digs it up or there’s like a natural disaster or something, it won’t die. It will live indefinitely. Another thing that people can’t fathom is that it could live in the ground for 60 years, 150 years, 300 years,500 years or older and those things exist that are insanely and incredibly rare and incredibly expensive, but they do exist and they are quite powerful and quite effective. Let’s put it that way. Ameer: So basically, all the ginseng that you see in the stores right now, it’s garbage. Brandon: Yeah, I wouldn’t touch it. The thing with supplements and herbs in stores is that most of it is worthless. There are few brands that actually do quality things but I would say 90% of it pretty much worthless and there’s actually an article that I saw recently that was referencing some studies that were done and basically they found out that like 80% to 90% of supplements that you find at health food stores aren’t even what they say they are and don’t even contain what they say they contain, and this was just a study that basically went around and bought things off the shelf and tested them. Ameer: I believe that 100%, just quality control is not there.


Brandon: Yeah. And it’s really kind of a level of awareness that is absent in our modern culture because for example like the mindset I was talking about earlier if just kind of like, for example green tea is just green tea and if you want better green tea, just get organic and it’s better, but the reality is there’s so much variation, there is so much nuance, there is so much attention and detail that goes in there, that it’s like it kind of just of goes over people’s heads like if I were to say like look, if you want some really good tea, you’re going to have pay like hundreds if not $1000 a pound. Most people can’t even fathom that, but it’s just basically because like the more time and energy and attention that goes into something, typically the price will go up. People can kind of relate to that because “Oh, this is an expensive bottle of wine,” or “this is a really old bottle of some kind of alcohol.” Like people can sort of relate to that, but like those things aren’t even good for you and don’t even like do anything for your real awareness. Sure, it might be like a sensory experience but like it’s not contributing to your overall development. Whereas something like this wild ginseng, it’s energetically like restoring energy in your kidneys, restoring your like deep vital essence, so like it’s altering your genetic structure because it’s living in the ground for 50, 60, 100 years, just building up all these genetic information, building up all these adaptability, and then you take that and that’s sort of inferred and transferred in your genetic information so it helps you express more of your genetic perfection. Ameer: So what kind of benefits did you feel after you started taking this ginseng? Brandon: Most people just report a sense of being calm and grounded, but also being like mentally and spiritually kind of uplifted. It’s just kind like you just sharpened the focus and sharpened the colors in a way. Like you see things more clearly, you hear things more clearly, and your mind is just somehow more clear and more aware of things. That’s what most people report and that’s not me putting ideas in people’s heads, that’s me like getting emails from people, getting feedbacks from friends and family and lots of different people and this is basically what most people say. Now I will say that things like these, they’re not necessarily for everyone, and it’s kind of like if you… Ameer: Alright, who’s it for then? Like who should we exclude from this? Brandon: Well, it’s not necessarily an exclusivity thing. It’s kind of like, let’s say you have like a really, really expensive bottle of wine, and you’re going to drink it and you’re like a wine connoisseur but your friend like doesn’t like wine and like could really care less. You don’t really want to be like “Here, drink this really expensive wine,” because they’re just going to be like “Yeah, whatever. It’s just wine, who cares?” You know what I mean? So it’s kind of like things that I’m talking about like right now, we’re at such kind of a high caliber that to really appreciate them, it takes a certain kind of palate, let’s say that. Ameer: Not palate. I would say awareness and education. Brandon: Yeah. Because it’s kind of like if you’re like pounding coffee all day and you’re super stressed out and really imbalanced, like this isn’t necessarily the appropriate strategy for you to take. It’s not necessarily good or bad or right or wrong, it’s just more about what’s going to be the best for that person in that situation. In every situation, there are different things. If you’re a person who is overweight and trying to lose weight, you’re going to need one kind of diet but if you’re another person who is at your ideal weight and you live a pretty good lifestyle, you’re going to need a different kind of diet. Each one isn’t better or worse and right or wrong, it’s just different based on the situation and the context that that person is in. There are definitely other herbs that a person could take depending on where they are but again it just kind of just depends on where you’re at. So definitely anything I say shouldn’t be construed as sort of like blank-in statements, because I know if someone hasn’t heard of this stuff before, like it can sound kind of weird or can sound like pretty far out or unreal but the thing


with reality, the thing with perception is that ultimately it’s all kind of infinite, and whatever level we’re at, there’s always higher and higher levels of that. So it’s just there’s always lots of different ways that we can express and experience life. Ameer: Is there any like general herbs like everyone can take like maybe name two or three of them that’s really good for everyday use? Brandon: Yeah, for sure. I would say off the top of my head, the first one will be called holy basil which is also sometimes called tulsi. There’s a really good brand that you can actually get at like whole foods and most like natural food stores and like the brand is called Organic India, and they’re actually a really legitimate company and all of their products are really good, and you can just buy this at the store or buy it online and just drink it like you would any normal tea, and it’s really quite effective and has really profound effects on the body and it’s really relatively inexpensive, tastes pretty good and it’s easy to use. I think that’s always like a great, great thing for people to take. Also another thing would be called gynostemma. This is another herb that you can just drink like a regular tea and it has kind of a mild green tea kind of flavor but with like a little bit more sweetness and like less grassiness. It really tastes pretty good and really pretty pleasant. That was a little bit more rare but you can find it online and my company sells an organic version as well. The reason why I like these two herbs is because they taste pretty good, they’re pretty easy to use, they’re pretty inexpensive, and they really balance and modulate a lot of different things in the body. Ameer: The gyno one, do you know what it modulates? What it’s primarily used for? Brandon: Primarily, people would notice modulating the nervous system in our stress response. So you can drink it in the morning and it will kind of give you a little bit of an energy. Ameer: So this is an adaptogenic? Brandon: Exactly. These are both adaptogens. They’re both I think some of the best adaptogens because they don’t really have any rough qualities or stimulating edges to them. They’re just really mild and really gentle in how they affect the body, so I always recommend people start with those or incorporate those because they’re so easy. I’ve been taking these plants and doing herbs pretty regularly for almost 10 years now and holy basil and gynostemma were some of the firsts that I ever tried and still to this day, they’re in my rotation and I still love them because they’re just that good. Ameer: Are there any certain dosages that people should be aiming for? Brandon: For the gynostemma, it typically comes loosed leaf, so it’s pretty much you’d use maybe a tablespoon for like a cup of tea. If people want to check out on my website or anybody’s website that sells it, usually it will come with directions on how to use it. Just follow whatever the company says. And then for the holy basil, just one or two teabags per cup of tea depending on how strong you like it, and you can pretty much just drink that at will. You can drink it once or twice a day or you can drink it throughout the day because it’s always going to be really balancing and really mild on the body. And on top of that, it tastes pretty good and they’re relatively inexpensive so… Ameer: Win-win baby, win-win. Brandon: Yeah exactly. Like, it’s hard to beat that.


Ameer: That’s right. You talk a lot about reishi mushrooms. Go into detail about that. Brandon: Yeah. That was actually going to be my second herb for meditation and that’s like wild ginseng and reishi mushroom are probably like two of the most famous herbs for meditation or spiritual development just because of the way they influence the nervous system and really influence our shen energy which is like our spirit cells in Chinese medicine, and what’s really interesting is like in kind of our Western understanding, we have our higher self, we have our spiritual self or whatever, but basically the Chinese broke it down into so many different variations of different spirits that make up who and what we are. It’s really quite profound and fascinating they level of quality and detail that they were able to bring to something which is seemingly so esoteric and intangible to us. That’s part of the reason why reishi mushroom for example is so profound because it’s able to address a lot of these different angles of our spirituality. In kind of a basic western scientific understanding, reishi would be an immune modulator, so balance into the immune system and then also really helping out to modulate our stress response so serving as an adaptogen in that way. Ameer: Have they done any studies on the mushroom? Brandon: Reishi is actually the most scientifically researched herb in the world. Ameer: Awesome. Brandon: Yeah. There’s a ton of research on it. It’s actually you mentioned that. Like a couple of years ago, I paid a researcher to basically survey all of these different journals and compile a list or compile like a big database of all the different studies and research on reishi and like I got a lot of really crazy stuff but I ended up like not doing anything with it because a lot of it is kind of illegal in a way because it sort of implies that I would be claiming something because there’s a lot of research on reishi for like cancer and tumors and blood pressure stuff and hypertension and cardiovascular things. Like that’s where most of the research is done on it and there’s been some fairly positive research in those regards, but that’s just basically illustrating the protective properties that it has on the body. Meaning that it’s not that the herb kills cancer, kills tumors, it’s more so that it helps strengthen the immune system. Ameer: I was just curious. I thought maybe there are some studies showing that the reishi mushroom can maybe mitigate the telomerase within the cancer cell. So you’re saying instead it’s actually improving the TH1, TH2 immune systems? Brandon: Yeah. That’s what most of it is really is saying, is that the primary functions would be just basically helping the immune system, but there’s a lot of research out there, so if anyone is curious to see any specifics, then Google Scholar or PubMed or any other academic journal will yield lots and lots of research. Ameer: Do you have any good herbs when it comes to healing wounds? Brandon: As in like a skin or kind of like connective tissue or muscle or what do you mean? Ameer: It doesn’t matter. Brandon: Well I would say a combination of MSM and vitamin C. That has a lot of stuff behind it to really help regenerate collagen, regenerate collective tissue and regenerate epithelial cells. People usually take in and notice like their skin gets softer, their nails grow faster, their hair grows faster and thicker


just basically because MSM is just an elemental form of sulfur and sulfur is the mineral which supports those functions in the body. I think MSM and vitamin C are like a pretty good combination for helping to speed up healing, and then also I’m a big fan of taking magnesium chloride baths, so like magnesium crystals. Magnesium chloride is a little different than magnesium sulfate which is Epsom salts. Epsom salts are good but they’re a little more on the kind of sulfate side, whereas magnesium chloride is literally just magnesium with salt, so it basically contains magnesium with like 50 other trace minerals in a full matrix, so basically you can take that, you can apply it topically or just take a hot bath with it as you would an Epsom salt and honestly I do those two things in combination in pretty regularly, and that gives you a nice dose of magnesium and a lot of other minerals to sort of support the body at a deep level, and sort of help the body be a bit more anabolic and a bit more regenerative and help out with DHEA levels and growth hormone levels and a whole lot of other things, just because magnesium is such an important mineral for regulating those different functions. So I would say those two things and then thirdly, if you can get fresh aloe vera, like the big leaf. Some grocery stores them, some Asian markets carry them. You can get them online. But like if you have a cut or wound that’s like basically in your skin, if you take that fresh aloe vera, you get that big leaf and then sort of fillet it like a fish and then get the skin and then wrap the skin around your wound and wrap that up and leave it there for a number of hours, that will likely blow your mind at how fast it will heal because the aloe vera has like such rich enzymatic qualities inside the skin and inside the gel that putting that on your skin is like magical. It’s crazy. There’s been times where I’d be in the kitchen cutting up something and I’ll slice my finger, and then immediately get the aloe vera, wrap it up, leave it on there five to ten minutes, take it off, no problem, it’s not even a concern anymore. It’s pretty much healed up. Ameer: Yeah. I use aloe vera too for a lot of people with gut permeability, does wonders. Brandon: Yeah. It’s a magical plant. It’s definitely one of the top plants I think. Ameer: You talk about kelp a lot. Why do you like it so much? Brandon: Basically, kelp is something that I got really into in the last couple years or so primarily because, I’d say three different reasons. First is it’s a wild food and it’s a seaweed so it’s incredibly mineral dense which most of our food that we eat in the grocery store or whatever is super hybridized and super mineral deficient, so to get something that’s wild and super mineral dense obviously makes a lot of sense. The downside is that seaweed tastes like crap to most of us unless we’re Japanese or Chinese or something, we just don’t eat it. It’s not in our culture. We might have sushi or something occasionally but we don’t eat it like these other cultures do so we just don’t get it. The second reason would be that obviously we’re facing increasing amounts of pollution in the environment whether that be radioactive or electromagnetic or mild chemical or whatever, so kelp has a pretty profound ability to detoxify things from the body, and thirdly, it’s really rich with iodine which many people are deficient in, and basically iodine is a really major mineral for our thyroid and for our metabolism but also our immune system to be able to sort of shield ourselves from these different qualities that we may be dealing with in the environment or maybe help out with any sort of metabolic thing that we might be dealing with or even just really support our thyroid and our immune system, so I feel like for those reasons, kelp is really quite helpful. It’s actually similar to aloe vera, it’s similar to reishi mushroom as well because it contains a lot of longchain sugars, a lot of, can’t think of the word but basically chemicals like polysaccharides, glyconutrients, that’s the word I was looking for. It has a rich concentration of these glycolnutrients which are basically non-sweet sugars which really have a huge affinity for our immune system and for basically healing our


gut and regenerating our connective tissue. For me, I just feel like kelp is kind of like the reishi of the sea in some ways. If people just go to the health food store, most of what they’re going to buy is just sawdust basically. People buy kelp, grind them into a powder and put them into a capsule. The problem is that kelp is made up of these really dense tough fibers that we can’t really break down, so the alternative is yeah, you could take kelp and like cook it and make a broth and do all these things with it but people aren’t really going to do that, so I’m a huge fan of the product that I carry which is basically a 40 to 1 raw juice concentrate of kelp, so I basically take raw kelp and then juice it, so then they just basically separate the nutrients from all the indigestible fibers, and sort of low temp dehydrate that down to a powder. So it’s really available, really easy to digest, and it’s basically like 50% of this extract is these powerful chemicals which are really detoxifying and protected to bind in the other half. It’s like just the trace mineral matrix. It’s a really amazing extract and I think one of the best products I’ve ever come across and that’s why I’m a huge fan of it and that’s why I just started to carry it and make videos about it. Ameer: Are you concerned with like Fukushima and the radiation for the kelp? Brandon: Yeah, basically that is a concern, and the kelp that I’m sourcing is coming off the coast of South America in Patagonia, so it’s basically one of the only clean sources left and basically the kelp is harvested, then it’s tested, then it’s imported into the USA, but before it comes into the USA, the FDA tests it again. They test it for radiation, they test it for heavy metals, before they’ll even let it in the country, and then it comes into the country, and then the extract is made and then the extract is tested again for radiation and again for heavy metals, and it always comes up negative and always comes up clean. Ameer: That’s good quality control. Brandon: Yeah. That’s the thing. Especially with something like that, you really have to exercise a lot of quality control because there are just so many different ways in which it could be contaminated. Ameer: What’s your take on juicing. I’ve seen that you’ve written about it before. Brandon: I think juicing is a great modality. I think it can be really abused. I think it is being abused in some instances like many things are in our world today. I think it’s more appropriate for some people than others. Some people get really carried away with it and it can be a little bit intense and sort of imbalancing to the digestive system, but generally I’m a big fan of it and personally I like green juice and I try to have at least, I used to be super regimented about juicing like when I first got into it, I was first like really doing a lot of cleansing and detoxification, I was like juicing everyday and like really all about it, and then I kind of got away from it and then now, whenever I get a craving for it, it might be a couple of times a month, it might be a couple of times a week, it just depends, I’ll have some juice but for example like, it’s just been the winter time here. It was really cold. It’s really raining, had a lot of snow, so it didn’t really make sense to like do a bunch of green juice because… Ameer: Well, let’s just pause for a second. You mentioned like traditional Chinese medicine. They talked about like the hot and the cold energies as well right? Brandon: Yeah. That’s part of it as well. Like, for example if it’s the middle of winter, you probably don’t want to do a juice cleanse, if it’s the middle of summer or like spring, then it might make a little bit more sense, but also too it kind of depends on a person’s constitution, like if someone is already really cold and really damp, they might do better if they do like broths and soups and things that have been sort of


like slow-cooked in that way, because those are really nutrient-dense, but they’re also more warming on the body, so it kind of just depends. But a little bit here and there, if you’re just out and you want to have green juice, then it’s really not that big of deal but if it’s something you’re going to do on a regular basis, you have to be a little bit more judicious in how you choose things, but also like for example a couple of months ago, I went on vacation, I went to Arizona. Everyday it was like 80-85 degrees so I’m like drinking green juice everyday because it’s 85 degrees and it’s sunny. It makes sense, it feels a lot better. Then I come home and it’s like 15 degrees and I have no craving at all for green juice. I think really the main thing and the major principle is like actually using common sense and using your body because I think people flip those things around and they say “Oh my god, I heard juice is good for me, I have to drink this juice everyday. Oh but wait, it’s really cold outside. Oh, but wait, I already have all these other things. Oh but wait, I have to do it because it’s good for me.” It’s like there’s plenty of other things that you could do that are good for you that might be a little bit more appropriate in that specific context. So sometimes I just notice that people, we can get a little carried away with our mental agendas, our mental ideas of what we think we should do or must do and sort of miss out on what our bodies are trying to tell us or what nature is trying to tell us or maybe even what’s even like necessarily appropriate for us in that moment. It’s just something I’ve noticed a lot from working with people and coaching and consulting and doing all these kinds of things. Ameer: I think you’re very right in that point. A lot of people do abuse juicing and if you just take any basic human physiology course, you really understand that the digestion of food begins with mastication, moving of your mouth, that actually increases the enzymes within your saliva. That signals your pancreas to start releasing pancreatic enzymes, also increases hydrochloric acid within your stomach. A lot of these juices, and people may not be doing them right even to begin with. Maybe five bananas, 10 bananas, 5 apples, some sugar in one shot. It’s not the wisest decision to do. Brandon: Exactly. Ameer: If you have to summarize, what would be your number one optimal health tip? Brandon: That is a good question. I don’t know man. That’s a tough one. I have to think about that for a second. I mean, it might even be what I was just saying earlier. As far as keeping the balance of things appropriate. Maybe being led a little bit more by the body, and then using the logical capacities and the reasoning of the mind really to refine the process. Because I think most of the time, people have it all the other way around where we use our mind 95% of everything more and more we are trying to make our body do all these things, but in reality, I think maybe shift back into the body, into the feelings a little bit more, and then also use the mind and maybe it’s more appropriate kind of manner, so I don’t know it that’s really quotable. Ameer: It is man. I like it, I like it. Brandon, where can people find more information about you and everything that you do? Brandon: I would say there are three primary outlets. My first is my YouTube channel where I have over 500 videos talking about lots of different subjects relating to natural health or spirituality or personal development or consciousness and that’s at HyperionTV.com. And then second would be my herbal website where I sell lots of high quality Chinese herbal extracts and supplements and that’s at HyperionHerbs.com.


And then lastly, my private membership site where I’m really dedicating most of my time, energy and focus into and I teach regular classes on there and there’s just a lot of really in-depth information as relating to specific health things and dietary things and herbal things as well as spirituality and personal development and really looking at things in a very deep but also very simplistic and applicable here and now, and I’ve got lots of members there and it’s just a really amazing website and amazing community of people that are really all gathering together for a common goal and really working to support and uplift each other and it’s just really pretty amazing and I’m just grateful to be able to facilitate and be a part of it. That’s found at HyperionAcademy.com. Currently right now registration is closed but maybe by the time this interview goes up or in the next week or so, I’ll open it back up again, just because it is like a private community. I really don’t have registration opened than often because like I said I’m teaching classes and doing these kinds of things so I kind of like to kind of keep people kind of on the same page to a degree, but probably in the next week or so I’ll open it back up and then I’m also going to be teaching a class probably like mid to late April on basically spring cleansing. It’s called The Rights of Spring, from darkness to light, so it’s basically talking about really the elemental and environmental properties that are at play right now and then how we can harmonize and align with those to support spring cleaning and support spring cleaning mentally, spiritually, as well as physically, so it’s going to be a really amazing class and really embody and really get people more in touch with the actual natural properties and natural energetics that are happening right now, because I think that’s really maybe he number one health thing, it’s like we’re all just really out of touch with nature and we live in kind of an artificial world, so I think the more we can actually get in touch with reality, get in touch with nature and the natural rhythms in a felt, visceral, existential way, not just like a heady, philosophical way but like we feel it in our gut, we know it in our gut, then I think we don’t really need much else because then we’re led by nature. What else could you want or need really in that regard? Ameer: Right on brother. Alright Brandon, well thank you so much for coming on the Optimal Health Show, and have an amazing day. Brandon: Thanks man.

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