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No 236
November 1967
The Belfry Bulletin – Volume Twenty One – Number Eleven From the Hon. Secretary. Dear Member, I have spoken to several people recently who say that they have not been asked to contribute to the Belfry Building Fund. There is no time like the present. Please – if the B.E.C. means anything to you – and you can afford it, will you make a gift of money for the fund? A number of members have already signed Bankers Orders to give the club – specifically for building a new Belfry - £1 per month for three years. CAN YOU? If a total of fifty members did this, we would have little to worry about. Each of these people would, over three years, give the club £36, but each week they would have only parted with the price of twenty fags OR two pints of beer. Perhaps you can’t afford to do this. Well, any other gifts, however large or small, will be gladly received. Three people so far have offered to lend the club £100. Are there any other offers? Will anyone who intends to contribute anything towards the new Belfry please get in touch with Bobby Bagshaw before Christmas so that the committee can take vital decisions at the January meeting. Yours Sincerely, Alan Thomas. P.S. It would help the club’s cash position if we reduced the stock of club ties (17/6 each plus postage) and car badges (15/- each plus postage). Postage is 1/6 in each case. How about treating yourself to a new tie or badge for Christmas? _______________________________________________________________________________________ Letter to the Editor. Dear Editor I have very little experience of cave surveying, but the query in the October B.B. seemed to provide an interesting armchair exercise. However, after being misled by the diagram and wasting much drinking time, I got back to first principles. If my interpretation of the figure in the B.B. is correct, and we are concerned with one side of a triangle whose other two sides are 7.42’ and 0.75’, then the unknown must be between 6.67’ and 8.17’. This range is only 1.5’ and I would have thought this smaller than the usual errors to be expected in cave surveying. If, as appears from the diagram, the unknown is greater than 7.42’ then a figure of 7.795’ could be used as the maximum error is only 4.5” “Non-perfectionist” Any comments from cave surveyors? (Ed) _______________________________________________________________________________________ notice Would all energetic B.E.C. members who live within the London area, and are willing to partake in the helping of a JUMBLE SALE in aid of B.E.C. funds contact CEDRIC GREEN, 6 SPRING STREET, PADDINGTON, W.2. TELEPHONE PAD 6941.
Page 52 The annual list of member’s names and addresses follows on the next few pages. If any member knows of any error in this list, will he please contact PHIL TOWNSEND whose address he will find correctly printed in the lists. Clare Coase’e address is such one wrongly announced. It should be 5 Mandalay Flats, 10 Elsiemer St., LONG JETTY, N.S.W. 2262, Australia. K. Abbey P.G.R. Allen T. Andrews O.E. Atwell J. Attwood R.J. Bagshaw M.J. Baker D Balcombe. J.C. Ball R. Bater K. Barnes. R. Bater Mrs. R. Bater R. Bennett J. Bennett D. Berry P. Bird P. Blogg P. Bridges B. Britton A. Bonner M. Bourne Miss S. Bowden-Lyle R.J. Brook N. Brooks R. Broomhead G.A. Bull J.J.. Butler M. Calvert J. Churchward C. Clark A. Coase Mrs C. Coase P.M. Coles S. Collins P. Compton D. Cooke-Yarborough. N. Cooper J. Cornwell D. Craig B. Crewe I.M. Daniels J. Davey F.G. Darbon Mrs A. Davies Miss P.M. Davies L Dawes Mrs L. Dawes G. Dell P.L. Derrick K.C. Dobbs N. Downes A.J. Dunn
15 Gypsey Patch Lane, Little Stoke, Bristol 4 St. Lucia Close, Horfield, Bristol 4 186 Courtlands Avenue, London S.E.12 57 Sandy Leaze, Westbury-n-Trym, Bristol 64 Main Road, Shortwood, Nr. Mangosfield, Bristol 699 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4 22 Riverside Garden, Midsomer Norton, Somerset 49 Shelford Road, Trumpington, Cambridge 4 Church Row, Stratton-on-the-Fosse, Bath, Somerset 20 Woodlands Glade, Swiss Valley, Clevedon, Somerset 24 Missile Regt., R.A., Padderborn, BFPO 16 40, Thornleigh Road, Horfield, Bristol 7 40, Thornleigh Road, Horfield, Bristol 7 8 Radnor Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol 8 Radnor Road, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol 10 Green Lane, Avonmouth, Bristol City Museum, Queens Road, Bristol Hunters Field, Chaldon Common Road, Chaldon, Surrey 51 Rockhill, Wellsway, Keynsham, Somerset 108c Cheltenham Road, Bristol 6 14 Monkseaton Drive, Whiteley Bay, Northumberland 55 Argyle Road, Fishponds, Bristol 17 Rokeby Avenue, Redland, Bristol 6 c/o Cawthorn Institute, P.O. Box 175, Nelson, New Zealand 9 Martin Grove, Normandale, Lower Hutt, New Zealand The Somme Co., R.M.A. Sandhurst, Camberley, Surrey 9 Campden Hill Gardens, London W.8 36 Tothill Street, Minster, Ramsgate, Kent Flat 2, Winscombe Court, Winscombe Hill, Winscombe, Somerset 1 Jamaica Street, Bristol 18 Church Lane, Bedminster, Bristol 3 53 Broughton Road, Croft, Leicestershire c/o Lamont, 57 Etna Street, Gosfor, New South Wales, Australia 32 Derham Park, Yatton, Bristol c/o Homeleigh, Bishop Sutton, Bristol 88 Course, Offgicers Mess, RAF Gaydon, Leamington, Warks. Lot 11, McKay Crescent, Orange, New South Wales, Australia 3 West Terrace, Westbury, Sherborne, Dorset 419 Whitehall Road, Street George, Bristol Flat 4, 78 Milson Road, London W.14 20 Riveside Gardens, Bath, Somerset. 3 Oakleigh Ave., Tolworth, Surbiton, Surrey 32 Cheltenham Gardens, Huddersfield Road, Halifax, Yorkshire 43 Arthur Henderson House, Fulham Road, Fulham, London Withey Lane, Neighbourne, Oakhill, Bath 410 Wells Road, Knowle, Bristol 4 223 Southwark Park Road, Bermondsey, London S.E.10 223 Southwark Park Road, Bermondsey, London S.E.10 23128511 L/Cpl. Dell, Printing Press, 30 BN43, BOD, Singapore 49 Mayfield Park South, Fishponds, Bristol 85 Fox Road, Pinhoe, Exeter, Devon 18 Coombe Street Lane, Yeovil, Somerset 63 Oakdale Road, Downend, Bristol
Page 53 J.A.Etough B.M. Ellis C. Falshaw P.G. Faulkner T. Fletcher A. Francis K. Franklin P. Franklin M. Gaskell P.M. Giles K. Gladman D. Glover P.R. Godley C.D. Gooding D. Greenwood C. Green S. Grimes D. Gwinnel C. Hall N. Hallett E.J.Handy M. Hannam N. Hart D. Hassell Hawksford, L/Cpl. A J.R. Henderson Miss A. Henley G. Higham B. Hewitt J.W. Hill S. Hobbs T.H. Hogdoon Miss D. Holden G. Honey Mr. Howe Mrs Howe P.G. Hudson J. Ifold P. Ifold D.J. Irwin Miss P. Irwin Jackman, SAC A. J.M. James R. Jarman M. Jeanmaire R.L. Jenkins Miss J.M. Jewell A. Johnson F. Jones U. Jones R. Keeley A.J. Kennett R.S. King P.A. Kingston R.F. Kitchen J. Lamb B.T. Lane
116 Newbridge Road, Brislington, Bristol ‘Knowkauns’, Combwich, Bridgwater, Somerset 23 Hallen Grange Crescent, Lodge Moor, Sheffield 251 Rowah Crescent, Langley, Middleton, Manchester The Old Mill House, Barnack, Nr, Stamford, Lincs. 22 Hervey Road, Wells, Somerset 52 Rockingham House, Lawrence Weston, Bristol 52 Rockingham House, Lawrence Weston, Bristol 23663966, Pte. Gaskill M, IOVE H Coy., RAOC, BFPO 56, El-Adem, Lybia. C.P.O.’s Mess, R.N.A.S. Yeovilton, Yeovil, Somerset 93 Broad Walk, Kidbourne, London, S.E.3 “Leisure”, Green Lane, Pamber Green, Nr. Basingstoke, Hants. 10 Hurstwood Avenue, Brentwood, Essex. 43 Monmouth Road, Bishopston, Bristol 42 St. david’s Drive, South Anstosn, Sheffield 6 Spring Street, Paddington, London W.2 43 Coates Gardens, Edinburgh 12 Sgts. Mess, 30 Signal Regiment, Blandford, Dorset 375 Fishponds Road, Eastville, Bristol 21 Southfield Road, Bristol 6 2 Coleshill Drive, Hartcliffe, Bristol c/o Phoenix Grove, Bristol 6 Barberry House, Kingston, Seymour, Somerset ‘Hill House’, Moorlynch, Bridgwater, Somerset Depot & TRG Establishment, Deepcut, Camberley, Surrey 8 Oldfields Place, Hotwells, Bristol 23 Maynard Road, Hartcliffe, Bristol 17 Baglyn ave., Kingswood, Bristol 21 Clarendon Road, Redland, Bristol 6 14C TRhe Orchard, High Street, Lower Cam, Nr Dursley, Glos. Hokerstone Cottage, Townsend, Priddy, Wells, Somerset 4 Lansdown Road, Clifton, Bristol 8 Wetherlam, Wooley Green, Bradford-on-Avon, Somerset 48 Martins Road, Hanham, Bristol 48 Martins Road, Hanham, Bristol 25 Derness Road, Bishop Aukland, Co. Durham “Leigh House”, Nempnett, Chew Stoke, Somerset. “The Cedars”, Blackford, Wedmore, Somerset 9 Campden Hill Gardens, London W.8 c/o White House, West Ashling, Chichester, Sussex c/o M.C.U., R.A.F. Muharrac (Bahrain) B.F.P.O.63 68 Linden Road, Bristol 6 “Hillside”, Stockton, Nr. Rugby 375 Fishponds Road, Eastville, Bristol 18 Camberley Close, Downend, Bristol Diamond Cottage, Soke Road, Silchester, Nr. Reading, Berks. Warren Cottage, Station Road, Flax Bourton, Somerset c/o 8 York Gardens, Clifton, Bristol Marsh Farm, Askem In Furness, Lancs. 4 The Green, Ham Green, Pill, Bristol 9 Belmont Road, Bristol 6 22 Parkfield Rank, Pucklechurch, Bristol 3 Kingsely Road, Eastville, Bristol 5 25 Furse Hill Road, Tidworth, Hants. ‘Broadmeadows’, Padstowe Road, Wadebridge, Cornwall 37 Pendennis Park, Brislington, Bristol
Page 54 T.E. Large Miss A.M. Lester O.C. Lloyd M. Luckwill J.Laycock G.T. Lucy R.A. MacGregor P. Macnab McKee Mrs McKee J. Major Mrs. J. Major C. Marriott R. Marshall T. Marston A. Meaden T.G. Mossman N.J. Monk K. Murray D.W. Musselwhite A. Nash F.L. Newport H. Oakley R. Orr D. Palmer M.A. Palmer Miss J. Parker Miss S.E. Paul J.F.W. Pearce R. Pepper L. Peters N. Petty R.A. Philpot G. Platten Miss B. Plummer G. Pointing B. Prewer R.J. Price C. Priddle J. Ransom Mrs Ransom I. Rees C.H.G. Rees Mrs Rees D.L. Rebori A. Rich D. Richards A.L. Richards R.J. Roberts Mr Robinson Mrs Robinson Miss J. Rowlands A. Rushton A. Sandall Mrs. A. Sandall P.M. Scragg Miss G. Scaplehorn D. Searle
9 Margarets Buildings, Brock Street, Bath, Somerset 1 Crowndale Road, Knowle, Bristol Withey House, Withey Close West, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol 8 Greenslade Road, Sedgley Hall Estate, Sedgley, Dudley, Worcs. Kimbrose Hotelk, Commercial Road, Gloucester Pike Croft, Long Lane, Tilehurst, Reading, Berks. The Railway Arms, Station Road, Theale, Reading, Berks. 121 Gilmore Place, Edinburgh 3 3 Woodside Close, Burton Joyce, Notts 3 Woodside Close, Burton Joyce, Notts Saint Cross, Green Down, Litton, Bath, Somerset Saint Cross, Green Down, Litton, Bath, Somerset Brulbergstrasse 15, Apt. 21, 8400 Winterhur, Switzerland 23 Highbury Villas, Bristol 2 83 Maple Grove, Plympton, Devon The Post Office & Stores, Cross in Hand, Nr. Heathfield, Sussex 33 Whateley’s End Road, Winterbourne, Bristol 7 Little Stoke Road, Bristol 17 Harrington Gardens, South Kensington, London, S.W.7 143 london Road, Calne, Wilts. c/o 22 Stuart Lane, Bristol 3 43 Swiss Road, Ashton Vale, Bristol 3 Medical Staff, Frenchay Hospital, Bristol 10 Orchard Gate, Colin Park Road, London N.W.9 29 John Wesley Road, St. George, Bristol 5 c/o Hooper Avenue, Wells Somerset 68 Delhi Road, Pitsea, Basildon, Essex 21 Lovelace Road, Surbiton, Surrey 6 Lyveden Road, Blackheath, London S.E.3 Frenchay Lodge Bungalow, Frenchay, Bristol 21 Melbury Road, Knowle, Bristol 4 12 Bankside Road, Brislington, Bristol 3 Kings Brive, Bishopston, Bristol ‘Rutherfield’, Fernhill Lane, New Milton, Hants. 2 Hogarth Walk, Lockleaze, Bristol 10 Green Lane, Avonmouth, Bristol East View, West Horrington, Nr. Wells, Somerset c/o GPO Kidsgrove, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs. 19 Stottbury Road, Horfield, Bristol 7 9 Archfield Road, Cotham, Bristol 9 Archfield Road, Cotham, Bristol 30 Ramsey Road, Horfield, Bristol 7 7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol 7 Coberley Road, Footshill, Hanham, Bristol 11 Kellaway Avenue, Westbury Park, Bristol c/o Pox 126, Basham, Alberta, Canada 59 Brook Road, Fishponds, Bristol 11 Tenison Road, Soth Norwood, Bristol 7 5 Bennett Street, Bath, Somerset 49 Elton Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7 49 Elton Road, Bishopston, Bristol 7 115 Eden Grove, Horfield, Bristol c/o R.A.F. Post Office, Wittering, Stamford, Lincs 43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset. 43, Meadway Avenue, Nailsea, Somerset 5 Randolph Avenue, Westcliff, Bristol Pamela Wills Norse Home, Chew Stoke, Somerset ‘Dolphin Cottage’, Priddy, Nr. Wells, Somerset
Page 55 Mrs. D. Searle G. Selby R.J. Sell A. Selway R. Setterington. R. Setterington Mrs R. Setterington C.J. Slavin W.J. Smart D. Smith J. Stafford Mrs. I. Stanbury T.H. Stanbury J.D. Statham R. Stenner Mrs. Stenner P. Sutton B.M. Scott D. Targett A. Thomas D.M. Thomas N.L. Thomas S. Thompson G. Tilly J. Tompsett Mrs. D. Tompsett E. Towler P. Townsend Mrs. J. Tuck S. Tuck P.J. Turner S.A. Tuttlebury R.J. Voke Mrs. D. Waddon R. Wallis D. Warburton M.R. Webster D. Weston R. White M. Wheadon A.J. Whiteman R. Wickens P.A. Wilkins A.J. Williams B. Wilton E.G. Welch G.S. Watts
‘Dolphin Cottage’, Priddy, Nr. Wells, Somerset c/o Prewer, East View, West Horrington, Wells, Somerset 51 Swiss Road, Ashton Vale, Bristol 3 15 Street Martin’s Road, Knowle, Bristol 4 4 Cavendish House, Cavendish Road, Chiswick, London, W 4 4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset 4 Galmington Lane, Taunton, Somerset 340 Speedwell Road, St. George, Bristol c/o Richard Costain Ltd., Aberthaw (B) Power Station, Aberthaw, Barry, Glam Flat 15, 193 Welesley Road, Coley Park, Reading, Berks. ‘Bryher’, Badgworth, Nr. Axbridge, Somerset 74, Redcatch Road, Knowle, Bristol. 4. 31, Belvoir Road, Street Andrews, Bristol 43 Coates Gardens, Edinburgh 12 38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3 38 Paultow Road, Victoria Park, Bristol 3 56 Arley Hill, Redland, Bristol 6 Crew Reporting Office, BOAC, London Airport, Hounslow, Middlesex 16 Phillis Hill, Midsomer Norton, Bath, Somerset Westhaven School, Uphill, Weston s Mare, Somerset Mantoins, 2 St. Paul Road, Tupsley, Hereford Holly lofge, Norwich Road, Salhouse, Norwich, Norfolk 51 Hayward Road, Redfield, Bristol 5 ‘Jable’, Digby Road, Sherborne, Dorset 11 Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex 11 Lodge Avenue, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex 5 Boxgrove Gardens, Aldwick, Bognor Regis, Sussex 154 Sylvia Avenue, Lower Knowle, Bristol 3 48 Wiston Path, Fairwater, Cwmbran, Monmouthshire 27 Woodbury Avenue, Wells Somerset 21 Northfield, Stanshawes Estate, Yate Flat 1, santakand, Prior Road, Camberley, Surrey 8 Pavey Road, Hartcliffe, Bristol 3 32 Laxton Close, Taunton, Somerset 174 Bryants Hill, Bristol 5 20 Beverley Court Road, Quinton, Birmingham 32 43 Shroud road, Patchway, Bristol “Maryvale”, 2 Folloton, Totnes, Devon The Moorings, Porton Road, Churhdown, Gloucester “Sharlyn, Chilcompton Road, Misomer Norton, Nr. Bath, Somerset 1 Golden Road, Clifton, Bristol 8 2 Cherry Garden Road, Canterbury, Kent 51 Constable Road, Lockleaze, Bristol 54 Crossways, Roggiett, Newport, Monmouthshire 22 Wedmore Vale, Knowle, Bristol 4 Frenchay Lodge Bungalow, Frenchay, Bristol 59 Southbrow House, Duckmoor Road, Ashton, Bristol 3
THE AGGY DIVE (Ogof Agen Allwedd) November 11th, 1967 The object of this dive was the downstream terminal sump, situated at the far end of Southern Stream Passage. It has been dived once previously by Steve Wynn-Roberts and Fred Davies in March 1963 when they reached a distance of 120’ when progress was halted by a pot in the floor. (Progress was stopped due to the fact that they were weighted for bottom walking and could only follow the floor – also oxygen equipment was used.) On this dive, however, compressed air equipment and fins were used, which allowed the diver to keep to the roof and have a greater speed and mobility. As there was only one diver, a duplicate set of breathing apparatus was taken into the cave.
Page 56 The carry-in (about two miles of hard going) was completed in four hours and the kit was assembled on the mud bank at the junction of the S.S.P. and the Main Stream Passage. The kits were then carried to a gravel bank near the sump. The diver, wearing two complete sets of apparatus and carrying a line reel, dived into the sump for about twenty feet until a wall of the sump was reached and followed for 150’ near the roof, crossing over the pot until the sump terminated in a mud bank. The pot was then descended but no continuation was found and visibility rapidly became nil and an exit was made from the sump. Despite this disappointment however, several passages were inspected and 40’ of new passage was found in the roof of the Main Stream Passage 300’ upstream of the terminal sump. The whole party returned to S.S.P. and feasted on hot soup, canned beef, sandwiches and chocolate before leaving the cave. Times were: - Carry-in, 4 hours. At sump and eating, 2 hours. Carry-out, 5 hours. The diver (P. Kingston) would like to thank the sherpa party consisting of W. Ball, R. Whitlock, D. Everett and G. Woods (W.S.G.) J. Corbett (W.C.C.) P. Cousins and P. Cornelius (C.S.S.) R. Bennett, G. Bull and R. Richards of the B.E.C.
PLAN OF SUMP 20’
150’ _______________________________________________________________________________________ Letter to the Editor
6 Lyveden Road Blackheath London S.E.3
Dear Ed., A few weeks ago, I had reason to call in the Belfry one midweek evening but alas! on entering I though I had missed the Hut and gone right into Walt’s yard, as the smell was /?%:)’@. Has all the talk about the new Belfry gone to everyone’s head, so that they have forgotten all about the present hut? If this is the way that some of our members are going to behave and carry on when all the work is at last done, I think it best to forget it and put the club’s money to better use (e.g. the purchase of AIRWICK). Now for the complaints. The sink was full of water with a thick layer of grease, and blocked with tea leaves, peas and the contents of the stew pot. Also in the sink were dirty pots and crockery. The frying pans had collections of (I would rather not guess) in them which had gone stale. There was not a single clean cup to be had. Plates were still on the table, just as the eaters (what was it? food??) had left them on the Sunday, three days before. Food scraps were everywhere. On the table and cooking bench as well as the floor but the most surprising thing was the way someone had managed to get it into the bowl by the sink. Tin cans and food packets strewn all over the place, some smelling very high. The floor had not been swept for some time and the dog-ends round the stove do not need a mention. After feeble attempt to clear it up, it became too much for us. We made a retreat and found somewhere with a better smell and more pleasant surroundings to spend the night. Where was the Hut Warden to let it get in such a state? Or is he also one of the “Don’t Cares? Or has he lost control over the now too often offending members? The outlook does not look good. Jack Pearce.