BRTOD Phase 2, Etna Street: Complete Engagement Results Table of Contents Introduction ..................................................................................................................................................1 Gold Line BRTOD Phases and Timeline ................................................................................................................. 1 Station Area Objectives ........................................................................................................................................ 1 Engagement Process and Participants .................................................................................................................. 2 Engagement Opportunities .............................................................................................................................. 2 Participant Map ................................................................................................................................................ 2 Process ............................................................................................................................................................. 2 Document Information and Navigation ................................................................................................................ 3 Results: Access...............................................................................................................................................4 Access – Third Street Now: Concerns ................................................................................................................... 4 Access – Third Street Plans: Benefits, Advantages ............................................................................................... 5 Access – Third Street Plans: Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions ................................................................. 6 Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue: Now, Concerns ................................................................................... 7 Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Benefits, Advantages ................................................................. 8 Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions................................. 10 Access – Corridor Bike + Walk Trail: Benefits and Concerns or Suggestions....................................................... 13 Results: Land Use .........................................................................................................................................14 Land Use Plans: Benefits, Concerns, What’s Missing, and Suggestions .............................................................. 14 Results: Destinations, Now and Future .........................................................................................................16 Results: Other Comments, Recommendations, Questions .............................................................................18 Other Topics ....................................................................................................................................................... 18 Station Amenities ........................................................................................................................................... 18 BRT, Busing..................................................................................................................................................... 18 Environmental Issues ..................................................................................................................................... 18 BRT/Station Construction ............................................................................................................................... 19 Cost Implications ............................................................................................................................................ 19 Additional Comments, Questions, or Concerns.............................................................................................. 19 Compilation .................................................................................................................................................20 (Compilation) Access – Third Street Now: Concerns .......................................................................................... 20 (Compilation) Access – Third Street Plans: Pros, Advantages ............................................................................. 21 (Compilation) Access – Third Street Plans: Cons, Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions ............................... 23 (Compilation) Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue: Now, Concerns ........................................................... 27
(Compilation) Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Pros, Advantages .............................................. 28 (Compilation) Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Cons, Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions 30 (Compilation) Corridor Walk and Bike Trail (Burns Avenue)............................................................................... 33 Attractive, Appealing ...................................................................................................................................... 33 Questions, Concerns, Suggestions.................................................................................................................. 33 (Compilation) Land Use Plans ............................................................................................................................. 34 Pros and What’s Missing/Suggestions............................................................................................................ 34 Concerns ........................................................................................................................................................ 35 (Compilation) Destinations ................................................................................................................................. 36 Now ................................................................................................................................................................ 36 (Compilation) Destinations: Future via Gold Line or Trail............................................................................... 36
Introduction The purpose of Phase 2 for this station area was to gather stakeholder feedback on draft alternatives for station access, trails, land use, and destinations. Results will be used to guide the Phase 3 refined BRTOD plans. The following is a compilation and summary analysis of all Phase 2 engagement results for the Etna Street station area in St. Paul.
Gold Line BRTOD Phases and Timeline See the phases and timeline below for this station area.
Station Area Objectives In-person and on-line engagement provided feedback on draft station area constraints and opportunities to help shape specific station area objectives to guide Phase 2 station area land use and access alternatives. Key objectives identified for this station area include the following: • Consider station relocation • Ensure safe walking and biking • Create a safe station environment • Promote mixed-use development • Consider park and ride • Manage traffic and congestion
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Engagement Process and Participants Engagement Opportunities The Phase 2 engagement opportunities were intended to accomplish the following: • Inform key stakeholders about the planning process and project objectives, and draft alternatives for access, trails, land use, and destinations • Gather feedback on the draft alternatives • Review next steps and how the information gathered will be used to inform Phase 3 station area refinements Engagement for this phase and station area included the following: • Gold Line Open Houses for the entire corridor organized by the Gold Line Project Office ○ Tuesday, July 17, 5:00–7:00 p.m., Grace Lutheran Church, 1730 Old Hudson Road, Saint Paul ○ Wednesday, July 18, 5:00–7:00 p.m., Guardian Angels Catholic Church, 8260 4th Street North, Oakdale • Community feedback session for Wilson Hi-Rise residents, August 7, 2018 • Online engagement in stages, from early August through the end of October 2018 • District Council presentations and feedback sessions, August 20 and September 17, 2018 • Harding High School 10th-grade geography students, October 8-9, 2018 Between 375 and 400 people contributed in this phase, the vast majority of whom were Harding High School students (355).
Participant Map The map shows the geographic distribution of all participants in this engagement process, based on home Zip Codes provided by the participants. Not shown on the map at this scale are 5 locations outside the map boundaries (2 in Lake Elmo, 1 in Stillwater, 1 in Eagan, and 1 in Coon Rapids).
Process For both in-person and online engagement, participants received information about the process, proposed alternatives, and questions. They provided feedback verbally, on Response Sheets, and via the online survey. Etna Street BRTOD: Phase 2 Complete Engagement Results, November 2018
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Document Information and Navigation Below is a summary analysis of results, followed by an Appendix with the complete compilation of all results. The Table of Contents includes hyperlinks for easy navigation. Obvious spelling errors were corrected but no other changes were made to the content. The primary results sections are organized by engagement topic (access, land use, and destinations), each with a summary of responses and information about the content presented. The content for the presentation and questions for Harding students varied slightly from the content for the other engagements; the summaries and compilations below include the merged content, and Harding-specific questions are noted.
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Results: Access Access – Third Street Now: Concerns While information about current vs. proposed was provided to all participants, only Harding High School students were invited to offer their concerns or questions about the current situation. Questions about Third Street focused on the section from Hazelwood (the entrance to Harding High School) and Etna. As shown on the graphic below, Third Street currently has sidewalks on both sides, no bike lanes, and street lighting on the south side only. Below is a summary of current concerns regarding Third Street. See the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. ○ General concerns about safety ○ Busy traffic and speeding make the street unsafe for pedestrians and bicyclists ○ No/not enough stop signs or stop lights to control speed or ensure safe crossings ○ Unsafe crossings, too few crosswalks, and confusing crosswalks; specific concerns about the crossing at Hazelwood and Third Street (the main entrance to Harding), which has neither a stop sign nor a crosswalk ○ Inadequate lighting resulting in safety concerns ○ Bumpy, uneven pavement and potholes make it difficult or hazardous for bicyclists ○ Comments on the hill just west of the school entrance, and general issues about winter and snow
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Access – Third Street Plans: Benefits, Advantages As shown on the graphic below, to improve access to the Etna Street BRT station, proposed improvements to Third Street include a two-way bike lane on the north side between Johnson Parkway and McKnight Road, and additional street lighting. Below is a summary of feedback on the benefits of planned improvements on Third Street. See the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. ○ Bike lanes improve safety for bikers ○ Bollards or barriers of some kind separate the bike lanes from cars on the roadway and make it much safer ○ Better lighting helps walkers and bikers, especially helps reduce crime ○ Changes improve access to the BRT station and other bus routes
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Access – Third Street Plans: Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions As shown on the graphic below, to improve access to the Etna Street BRT station the proposed improvements to Third Street include a two-way bike lane on the north side between Johnson Parkway and McKnight Road, and additional street lighting. Below is a summary of feedback on the concerns, what’s missing, and suggestions for improvements on Third Street. See the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. ○ Bike lanes eliminate residential on-street parking on the north side, causing difficulties for residents and visitors/guests ○ Concern that the bike lanes could block access to residential driveways; that turns could be confusing for cars, bicyclists, and walkers; and that the narrower driving lanes could be difficult for commercial vehicles or cause other problems ○ Concerns and questions about how the bike lanes with the bollards would be plowed during the winter, and whether anyone would really bike along Third during the winters ○ Fears about crowding cars, bicyclists, and pedestrians onto this road, and biking against traffic in the lane closest to cars – even with bollards in place ○ Related to the current traffic, speeding, and safety concerns noted above – recommendations for additional stop signs and/or stop lights; more, better, and safer crosswalks for walkers and bicyclists, including controlled/signalized crossings and turns; speed bumps; and special attention to safety improvements crossing to Harding High School at Hazelwood ○ Strong desire for good sidewalks and smooth pavement ○ Suggestions for excellent lighting, potential security cameras, helpful signage, and nice landscaping to make biking and walking safer and more attractive
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Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue: Now, Concerns While information about current vs. proposed was provided to all participants, only Harding High School students were invited to offer their concerns or questions about the current situation. As shown on the two graphics below, Etna Street currently has sidewalks on both sides for only part of the distance between Third Street and Wilson Avenue, and no bike lanes. There are also no sidewalks or bike lanes on Etna south of Wilson (under I-94). Below is a summary of feedback on current concerns or needs for Etna Street and Wilson Avenue. See the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. ○ Sidewalk on Etna doesn’t extend all the way to Wilson, or beyond ○ No crosswalks along Etna or Wilson, or at intersection ○ Intersection of Etna and Wilson is very busy, confusing, and dangerous from all directions ○ Insufficient lighting to be safe ○ Not enough stop signs or stop lights on Etna to be safe from traffic ○ No bike lanes ○ Bumpy pavement
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Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Benefits, Advantages As shown on the three graphics below, to improve access to the Etna Street BRT station the proposed improvements to Etna Street and Wilson Avenue include the following: ○ Etna: A two-way bike lane on the west side; the bike lanes would extend from Third Street past the Wilson intersection (access to BRT station), and continue south along Highway 61 to join other bike/walk trails; sidewalks extend all the way to Wilson, and continue on both sides of Highway 61 south of Wilson ○ Etna and Wilson: Crosswalks for bikes and pedestrians at Wilson ○ Wilson: Sidewalk and street lights on the south side; bike markings on the roadway Below is a summary of feedback on the benefits of the planned improvements on Etna Street and Wilson Avenue, including south of I-94. See the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. ○ New bike lanes ○ Substantially safer and less confusing Etna-Wilson intersection with crosswalks for walkers and bikers ○ Sidewalks all the way to Wilson and south to the other side of I-94 that substantially create a safe place to walk/bike and improve current dangerous situation
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Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions As shown on the three graphics below, to improve access to the Etna Street BRT station the proposed improvements to Etna Street and Wilson Avenue include the following: ○ Etna: A two-way bike lane on the west side; the bike lanes would extend from Third Street past the Wilson intersection (access to BRT station), and continue south along Highway 61 to join other bike/walk trails; sidewalks extend all the way to Wilson, and continue on both sides of Highway 61 south of Wilson ○ Etna and Wilson: Crosswalks for bikes and pedestrians at Wilson ○ Wilson: Sidewalk and street lights on the south side; bike markings on the roadway Below is a summary of feedback on concerns, what’s missing, and suggestions for improvements on Etna Street and Wilson Avenue. See the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. ○ Concern about the busy traffic, cars driving too fast, and inattentive/rude drivers on both Etna and Wilson ○ Concern about safety for bicyclists on Wilson without dedicated bike lanes; bike lanes should continue and include bollards ○ Concern about the safety of Etna Street two-way bike lanes, with one lane of bikers facing oncoming traffic, and how to plow bike lanes with bollards ○ Concern about whether reducing the Etna Street roadway width will make it less safe for drivers, or too tight for both drivers and bikers ○ Concern about current inadequate street parking for residents, and losing more for bike lanes ○ Ensure safe turns and crossing for everyone, especially at intersections ○ Add signage to help with crosswalks, turns, and wayfinding (BRT station and other) for walkers, bikers, drivers ○ Use stoplights rather than stop signs at Etna and Wilson, with clear signals for different users ○ Establish and enforce safe speed limits ○ Repave roads for smooth and safer biking, and include nice landscaping ○ Provide ample lighting and consider adding security cameras on both Etna and Wilson, including under I94 and south
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Access – Corridor Bike + Walk Trail: Benefits and Concerns or Suggestions Participants except for Harding High School students were asked about the proposed corridor walk and bike trail along Burns Avenue as shown on the map below. Below is a summary of responses; see the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. • Good new bike and walk opportunity to improve access, health, and offer an alternative to owning a vehicle • Concerns about how to ensure safety for users / prevent conflicts with vehicles, and about potential costs
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Results: Land Use Land Use Plans: Benefits, Concerns, What’s Missing, and Suggestions The two graphics below show potential transit-supportive land uses around the Etna Street BRT station. Key objectives of these land uses are to support a safe and active station area, increase ridership, and benefit from being near I-94 and the BRT. Below is a summary of feedback on the potential land uses around the Etna Street station. Note: Some suggestions were more specific to the BRT station itself and are included in that section later in this document. See the compilation at the end for complete results on this topic. ○
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Desired land uses: Housing: quality, affordable, varied, high-density, and for seniors Food, grocery, convenience stores Coffee shop, restaurants A place to hang out Parks, green space Need sound and privacy protection for housing close to the BRT station Need a safe, active, and secure space all year long Concerns about too much low-income housing, more cars vs. less, and crime
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Results: Destinations, Now and Future The maps below provide information about potential destinations along the BRT corridor and the corridor-wide walk and bike trail. Participants listed where they go now along the corridor, and possible future destinations via the Gold Line BRT or the trail. While the questions were asked differently for the various participant groups, below is a summary of feedback on the destinations around the Etna Street station. See the compilations at the end for complete results on this topic. •
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Current destinations included places to shop, such as large grocery or discount stores, and malls; restaurants and coffee shops; movie theaters; educational, recreational, and sports venues; and visiting family and friends Potential future destinations were similar to current destinations, although some responses were more specific; there were several additions or shifts in emphasis, including more parks, lakes, recreation centers, and simply biking around; libraries and additional educational destinations; and jobs
Destinations, west
BRT guideway Corridor walk + bike trail Primary walk + bike BRT station access Neighborhood walk + bike access routes
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Destinations, east
BRT guideway Corridor walk + bike trail Primary walk + bike BRT station access Neighborhood walk + bike access routes
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Results: Other Comments, Recommendations, Questions Other Topics This section contains summaries and compilations on Gold Line Etna Street Station topics other than access, land use, and destinations.
Station Amenities The majority of recommendations for Etna Station amenities focused on having a heated and sheltered station, bike and scooter rental, bike storage/lockers, and free Wifi. See complete compilation below. • A place to pay for the bus • Bike racks (5) • Heated stations, sheltered stations, covered stations (18) • A pro is that there’s shelter in the • Bike rentals, rental station (14) light rail stations • Bike storage, safe bike storage • Looks and feels like light rail (13) stations • Be more considerate about the sheltering stations for the • Electric scooter rentals (5) • stations that have wifi and Minnesota winter climate electricity outlets for charging, etc. • Free wifi (4)
BRT, Busing Feedback included questions or concerns about the cost of riding the Gold Line, schedule and reliability, impacts on other bus routes, and opportunities offered by the new BRT. See complete compilation below. the cost be?, what’s the cost to go • More drivers (2) • 24-hour bus? on the BRT?, Would it cost more • A bus to go to the train • Need enough drivers to run the than a regular bus? (2), Would the BRT (current shortage of bus • A road for bus cost be the same? drivers) • Another bus route • App? Website • Disruption of 3rd street busses • Put bikes on bus length and route there • Bike storage on buses • Rearrange bus routes • Bus routes for students who live • Easier way to travel in bus • Space on buses around Harding • How big is the bus? • What if it doesn’t get there on time • Bus station • I think it is good for people who don’t have a car • Bus station to go to downtown • Will the bus go through to Burns Ave? Birmingham? Suburban? • Clean buses • It will eventually support people who have no access to • Concern that it will become too • With Minnesota winters, need a transportation busy and take too long to get quality guideway so it doesn’t home have to be repaired all the time • Kids can take city bus • Cost (3), how much will it cost, • Kids can take city buses • Would [changes to Third Street] cost the same as metro, what will • Might cost us more disrupt the 63’s route
Environmental Issues Feedback included questions and observations about the impact of BRT on the environment, and recommendation to use natural gas buses. See complete compilation below. global warming because more • Could improve environment • Natural gas buses (4) people will ride the bus. • Environment concern • Using fuel (for cars) isn’t good for the environment • Environmental impacts (4) • Less car emission – people on bus • It will decrease the chance of • Less cars on street
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BRT/Station Construction Feedback included concerns and associated recommendations to ensure Gold Line construction doesn’t severely disrupt bus routes and riders, and that riders get good information during that period. See complete compilation below. local residents • Add detours while reconstructing • Construction plan roads • During construction, residents • In the future during construction need alternatives for routes and how will the construction affect • Construction (2) plans/schedules the locals, how long will it be? • Construction era is a mess for buses • During construction, residents • Time management to construct need more and better information • What if construction role happen? • Construction might affect traffic on alternate routes, plans, and • Construction period (duration); • Will construction affect traffic? (2) schedules need alternate routes and schedules • Hopefully no massive detours for
Cost Implications Feedback included questions and comments about Gold Line cost and the impact on taxes and taxpayers. See complete compilation below. St. Paul can't ever keep the streets wasteful projects such as this. I've • Increased taxes to pay for this? plowed of snow in the winter. I've live in St. Paul at my current Raising taxes? (9) location since 1991 and I find the lived here for many years and it is • It costs money city to be an unsafe place to live a joke. I live on Burns Ave. and • Just seems like a big waste of with ever rising costs. I will be watch the buses drive by and I money. moving out of this city in the next count the number of passengers • Taxes (9) couple of years to get away from on each bus. If there are a half • Taxes on the taxpayers this insanity. St. Paul has turned dozen passengers on each bus • This project is another example of into a ghetto city. that is a lot. Usually there are one government out of control. This is or two. Buses are for low income • Using too much money to fix and a misuse of spending public people who can't afford to buy a money. Instead of widening the buy car and the income earners of roadways for more automobile • Would the station cost more than society, who don't use the buses traffic, you are spending millions a regular bus station? are forced to pay for them and on unnecessary projects like the.
Additional Comments, Questions, or Concerns Battle Creek neighborhood really from this should be here and talk needs a bridge of 10/61 to get to and put their input. I never rode the mounds park neighborhood. the bus or bike in the 10 years I've Currently, crossing HWY 10/61 by lived here. I would suggest you foot is unsafe. come back after September to a resident council meeting to get • having been on the light rail a few more input. Please talk to resident times now I have to say I am more council board members. concerned for my safety than any other concern especially after the • I do look forward for the gold line sun go down completion • (Wilson Hi-Rise) I think a lot of • If it comes down to it, will houses other people who will benefit be bought out by the city to be •
part of this project? How will this go about? How will you notify us? I am concerned about the amount of space that will potentially be taken away from my house. I recently moved and bought my home. Now, you're planning to build a rail line in my back yard? When will his project roll out, if it does? What sorts of funding is involved with this project?
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Compilation This section contains documentation from all participants related to the Gold Line Etna Street Station access, land use, and destinations; note the combined summaries and compilations about other topics and issues in the previous section).
(Compilation) Access – Third Street Now: Concerns This question was posed for Harding High School students only. [poor] lighting 3rd street is very busy Access issues Barriers Bike accidents Busy street could cause danger • Busy street in the morning • Can be dangerous for walkers and bikers • Car traffic • Cars can be fast • Cost • Crossing the street is very busy cars don’t know when to stop for other cars to turn • Dangerous to bike on 3rd Street now • Existing bus stops • Hard to cross because there are no secure crosswalks • Have sidewalk? • Hill • Hill going down 3rd street • How busy it is and what’s missing is safety • Is it safe to walk and bike on 3rd Street? • It can be confusing when a • • • • • •
walker/biker crosses the street Kids come late to school New lights No bike lanes (2) No concerns (3) No crosswalks for people / bikes • No space for bikers • No stop light • No stop lights/stop signs on 3rd and Hazelwood • No stop signs (7) • No stop signs or street lights on Hazelwood • No stop signs or traffic lights • No street light (6) • Noise late at night • Not enough lighting (3) • Not enough safe easy access to bus stations • Not many people walk • Not many stop signs • Not safe • Pavement quality • People speed along 3rd, so it’s not safe • Potholes • Potholes • Right now in 3rd street, there’s • • • • •
some bus stops that don’t have a place to sit down or/and a shack • Safety (8) • Snow • Snow during the winter • Snow, winter sucks • Speeding (6) • Stop signs (7) • Street lights (2) • The lights aren’t bright enough • The road to turn at the curve • The slope down hill • The streets are very busy to cross, especially in the morning • There is speeding • Too many cars • Too many cars, traffic • Too short of a time to walk across the street • Traffic (2) • Traffic control • traffic winter/traffic • Turning into school a lot of traffic • Uneven roads • Weather • Weird curve on 3rd; crowdedness • When walking or crossing • Winter (2)
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(Compilation) Access – Third Street Plans: Pros, Advantages 2-way bikeway 2 ways on one side A lot of people Additional lighting (2) Allows better access to other bus routes • Already has a sidewalk • An entry into Etna • Barrier between the road and bikers -can be safer • Barrier makes it feel safer for walkers and bikers • Better lighting • Better lighting equals less criminal activity (4) • Better lighting to see road • Better travel • Bike crossing/people crossing • Bike lane (7) • Bike lane goes all the way to Johnson pkwy • Bike lane is separate from road • Bike lanes -- separates bikers and walkers • Bike lanes are safer • Bike lanes for only bikes • Bike lanes let you go faster and more safe • Bike lanes separated from traffic • Bike lanes will give more room to people walking on sidewalks • Bike lanes; separation of walkers, bikers, drivers • Bike path (2) • Bike roads (2) • Bike separated from people walking • Bike storage • Bike trails • Bikers and walkers separated • Bikeway street • Convenient for everyone • Crosswalks • Dividers between car and bike lanes • Ease of access (2) • Easier for bikers to cross • Easier to get home (bike lane) • • • • •
Easy access to biking Easy access to other places Easy road to go to Easy to get to Existing sidewalks Expanded route • Fast • Faster • Faster to get to school • Faster transport • For walkers and bikers • Gives more transportation options • Good community space • Good for bikers • Good for bikers and also walkers • Good for walkers • Good light during winter & also at night • Good lighting (3) • Good sidewalks • Good thing is bike lanes and street lights on both • Good to have better lighting • Great for people who don’t drive • Guided and accessible • Helps separate traffic • I can bike faster • I don’t really go down 3rd but the idea seems productive and useful • I like everything about it • I like how it'll have more opportunities for jobs for other people • I like the bike lane because the there a bike goes up and down [two-way] • I like to see bikes with a barrier to protect them. • I think it would be helpful for those that are bikers • I think the sidewalk idea with lights is very nice and really helpful • It is a good thing for bikers • It will be more safe for bikers • It will give students space to walk and bike safely. • It would be nice to have 2 lanes of • • • • • •
biking It would make it easier for kids It’s good that it has a bike lane It’s much safer Keep bikers and walkers safe Keeps walkers and bikers separate • Less criminal activity • Less dangerous • Less traffic • Less traffic for walkers and bikers • Lighting (2) • Lighting is bright • Lights for walkers and bikers to school • Lights on both sides • Like bollards to indicate bike lanes • Makes traffic flow more easily • May be safe • may slow traffic down • More accessibility • More crosswalks • More efficient • More efficient and faster (2) • More light(s) (2) • More lights and signs to improve safety • More paths that don’t get in the way of traffic • More people would be open to the street • More secure travel • More space • More space for bikers • Need barrier between bike lanes and traffic to be safe • Need barriers between bike lanes and traffic to be safe • Need bike lanes • New lighting (2) • Nicer sidewalks • None for me personally • Nothing • opportunity for consumers to become more healthy and mentally stable • opportunity for individuals that are not interested in owning a vehicle • • • • •
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opportunity for more human connections • Overall I like it • People walk here • Place for bikers, two-way • Places on bike & by walking • Plow snow/heavy rain • Proposed improvement • Rearranged bus route • removes parking from 3rd street which should improve sight lines for traffic entering 3rd street from side streets • Safe biking • Safe for bikers • Safer • Safer bike lanes (2) • Safer biking • Safer for a family bike • Safer for bikes • Safety for walkers and bikers (2) • Same payment • Separated so no one is hurt • Separates bike lanes and driving lanes (2) • Separates bikers/walkers (2) • Separation from traffic and walkers • Sidewalk(s) (4) • Slow down traffic • Smooth roads • Speed bumps • Street light on both sides of street is useful at night • Street lighting on both side (4) • Street lights • Supports a safe area • The 3rd street is an important street for both walkers/bikers and cars • The bike lane gives separation of walking and biking • the safety markers that help define bike lane • There should be a bike lane • There will be a space only for bikers • There will be bike lanes for students • There’d be a fast way bike lane •
They are an impediment to free traffic flow. • They eliminate on street parking. • To improve the safety of the bikers and walkers • Two lanes for biking • Two-way bike lanes • Two-way bike lanes on north side • Variety of ways to travel • Vehicle lets you take your bike • Walk safety • Walking aisle • We have a lot of bus riders in the building so I feel it will be good for them considering the buses run every 10 to 15 minutes • Will also cut down on pollution from cars • You can bike without worrying about cars or people • You can get to Johnson parkway • You’re not in the way of cars •
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(Compilation) Access – Third Street Plans: Cons, Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions 3rd St. is very busy • A con for biking is that not everyone bikes/it’s winter • A lot of stuff • A stop sign so the residential owner can get to his garage • Absolutely nothing is appealing or attractive. • Accessibility to individual houses • Add detours when reconstructing the roads • Add more stop signs • Add more street lights • Additional light stops and stop signs • Additional stop lights • Additional stop sign • Affordable housing near there • Are cars allow to drive through bike lanes • Are you going to make the road larger or smaller to fit the bike lane? • Arrows in bike lanes • Arrows to show bike turnings • At 3rd and Hazelwood, the T street should have light/stop because there have been accidents • Barriers that separate cars and bikes • Be more busy • Better lighting at major intersections • Better sidewalks • Bike and car turning • Bike crosswalks • Bike isn’t used often • Bike land taking/ conflicting with parking • Bike lane conflicts with turning cars • Bike lane might cause traffic • Bike lane needs to be plowed -how? • Bike lanes (2) •
Bike lanes conflict with cars turning • Bike lanes need to be plowed in winter; how with barriers? • Bike lanes on the same side; no parking for residential area • Bike rental (3) • Bike road, won’t be able to park their car • Bike sign and pedestrian crossing on bike lane? • bikes ignoring the traffic lights when crossing 3rd street • Bikes would be useless during winter • Biking lane and a barrier • Biking turning lane • Budget? Traffic • Bus and biking lane turns • Busy in the morning • But there isn’t enough safety, bike street signs and street lights. • Cameras (3) • Cameras needed for safety • Can’t always have bike • Can’t bike in winter (7) • Car parking • Car parking on side • Cars can’t park because of bike lanes • Cars have to park one way • Cars might crash into people if they’re in the bike lanes (without barriers) • Cars turning • Changes roads and stuff? • City bus won’t have access of parking • Closed roads for construction • Closer stop to Harding • Concerned about adequate separation between cars and bikes • Concerns about losing parking; residents may not like that • Concerns about parking • Could be crowded (small space) •
Crosswalk safety • Crosswalk-> safe? • Crosswalks • Crowded streets • Dangerous head-on collision; it is dangerous for bikers because cars are bigger and faster; any biker might get head-on • Dangers at night • Dark (2) • Do we have to pay? Yes • Do you think your mom or a person would rather ride this bus than their own car. Might be no space on bus? • Don’t block driveways • Don’t take too much space on the streets in our neighborhoods • Driveway [access] for the residential areas • Driveway problems • During the winter, how are they going to keep 3rd Street plowed? • During winter, how are they going to keep it safe? • Etna and 3rd street see a lot of large commercial vehicles. I live on Etna and see big semi's use this street daily • Fill potholes; new pavement • Getting hit by car • Good landscaping • Good landscaping (trees and plants) • Good sidewalks (4) • Green light • Harder/less space for cars to drive • Have lamp posts for the bike lane to make it more obvious it is a bike lane • Have to walk on the opposite side • Having to put bike on bus • How are people going to park on the road? • How are the bikes going to cross to the other side? •
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How are the snow plows going to go through the bike lane? • How are they going to plow it in the winter? • How long will it take to be built (3) • How much street is taken for the bike lanes? • How safe are drivers? • How the bike lane affects cars at the intersection • How to keep bikers safe from drivers? • How will it affect traffic in the morning? • How will it do in the winter • how will plows clear the streets in winter with the safety markers • How will this be safe for bikes in the winter? How will they plow? • I don’t see any issues I don’t • I really don't have concerns but safety because these drivers don't pay attention • I travel on 3rd street almost everyday morning/afternoon and rarely see people on bikes. • If the busses were to pick up people on the side of the bike lane how will that happen? • Include stop lights • Increased risk of hitting peds • Is it safe from traffic? • Is there enough separation? • It could be crowded for other cars which will cause more traffic • It would block the turns for cars • It would take too much space • It’s going to be crowded • Keep 3rd Street clean from piling matter • Lack of bikers (2) • Lack of space • Landscape • Lane per direction • Less room for cars • Less space • Less space for cars (3) • Light for biking • Lights (5) • Lights on both sides •
Lights on the right, easier for bike lanes • Lights or more • Limited space (2) • Lock on bikes • [Losing] residential parking • [Losing] the free parking space that’s now taken up [by the bike lanes] • [Lost] parking -- people might not like that • Machine that checks your speed • Make sure bollards don’t block driveways • Make sure that snow removal is funded. • Maybe a new road • Maybe add more fencing [between bike lanes and car lanes] • maybe add some stop lights • Maybe bike rental. • Metal poles should be put up to protect bikers from cars • Might attack cars • Might be dangerous to bikers • Might bring unwanted things • Might prevent cars getting to places • Missing a way for family to park cars other than driveways • More narrow streets on the roads • More stop signs (10) • More stop signs close to Harding • More stop signs for safety (3) • More stop signs on Third • More stop signs, speed bumps • More stops for safety • More street lights (2) • More traffic • More traffic because it’s going to be only one lane on each side • More traffic because of bike lanes • More train routes not just the 63 easier commute • More unsafe • Narrow streets, parking beside sidewalks are gone • Narrow the road because of bike lane • Need barrier between bike lanes •
and traffic to be safe Need good sidewalks (4) Need more improvements Need more lights • Need more stop signs (2) • Need street lights and stop signs, especially at 3rd and Hazelwood • Needs safe crosswalks • Needs to be plowed in winter • New bike lanes (2) • New bike lanes need new pavement • New bike lanes need new pavement to be plowed in winter • New pavement (3) • New two-way biking lanes but not enough space • No biking in winter • No parking on North (3) • No parking on north traffic • no parking on the 3rd street, people park on the street in this area • No parking spots for cares on one side • None (2) • Non-English learner • Not a lot of people use bikes (8) • Not enough lighting • Not enough safe/ easy access to bus stations • Not enough space (2) • Not many people walk • Not sure because I don’t live in the area • Nothing • One way cars & bikes • Only has lights on the left • Parked car/ concerning about bike lane • Parking • Parking for houses • Parking on 3rd Street for the residential areas • Parking on north (5) • Parking on street • Parking on the side of the road • Parking space on the road? • Parking spots • Parks may be crowded • • •
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People don’t really bike People living on the side of the bike lane will have a hard access to park. • People who park their car by street • People won’t know how to follow/use the two-way bike lanes • Plowed bike lanes • Plowed in the winter (bike lanes) • Plowing snow during winter • Public busing • Put security cameras along the bike and walk routes for safety • Rearrange bus routes • Reduced parking. • Roads close for a long time for it to be rode • Rush hour • Safe for biking in winter? (2) • Safety (13) • Safety -- too complex, too many bike crosswalks; too much space • Safety for kids (kidnapping) • Safety for those who are walking on intersections • Safety on 3rd walk or bike • Safety; protection from being hit by cars while walking or biking • School bus is too wide • Security • Security cameras (2) • Short stop bus stops • Should include some stop lights • Sidewalk • Signage. Will there be more signs around or near these areas? • Signs alerting drivers to pedestrians • Signs so the cars will stop so the people can go • Slows down traffic • Small area will be crowded • Smaller road • Smaller space for cars to drive on • Smooth roads (3) • Smooth, safe pavement • Snow in the bike lanes • Some stop signs (2) • Sometimes people walk on the • •
bike lanes Space in the streets Speed bumps (4) Speed bumps/ stop signs • Speed limit • Stop lights (3) • Stop lights instead of signs • Stop sign (8) • Stop signs and lights • Stop signs and possible street lights if needed • Stop signs for safety • Street cameras • Street light(s) (5) • Street lights for bikers • Street lights on both sides • Street parking (parking spaces) • Street signs • Streets are more narrow • Super tight for cars (2) • Takes away parking • Takes longer to get to Harding high school • Takes space of residential areas • Takes spaces from parked cars • Takes up space • Taking away parking spaces • Taking spaces from parked cars • That the walkers will not obey the law like they should • The bike lanes are close to the road • The estimated time of how long it’ll be built • The hill • The lane is too small for bikes to fit • The people living around 3rd Street might not like the limited parking space • The plans will cost the taxes to increase bike lanes. • The poles inserted for bikers makes plowing harder • The property of neighbors -- car parking • The road for cars is too narrow there is only one lane for you to drive one way. What if the car in front of you stops? You could take • • •
the other lane where cars are coming towards you, but that’s risky • The road gets smaller since the bike lanes will take over a part of it • The roads are smaller because of the bike lanes • The street will be crowded for cars • The time • The two-way bike lanes and cars are too close to each other • There are trees • There is more traffic and people get home later. • There won’t be any parking space for cars • There’s barely any bike lanes • There’s some moving street lights • Time management disruption • Too much traffic because there is going to be only one lane • Too tight • Too tightly squeezed • Traffic (12) • Traffic for cars during rush hour • Traffic light • Trees/ nature • Turn lanes interfering with bike lanes • Turning bike lane • Turning lane for cars (3) • Turnings of bike with car • Very few people will use them • Walk sign signal • Walking in winter • Walking signs • We need good landscaping along the bike and walk routes • Weather (2) • What are we getting rid of to obtain more room. • What if no one wants bikes • What if road is blocked • What if the width of the road is too small? How will cars and bike lane combine? • What if there was a police who just stopped a car? Where will they park at the 3rd Street lane
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[with the new bike lanes]? what is the potential out of pocket expense for renters and home owners • What is the relevance leading to Johnson area • What was said • What will you do about the people that can’t speak English • What’s going to separate the bikers from cars • Where are the cars going to park? • Where do people pause • Where the bus will pass • Where will cars park? • Where will other cars park at? • Where will the cars park on the sides? • Who is keeping it clean? • Will speed limits be decreased? • Will the bike lanes have enough room for 2 people to be by each other? • Will the cars and bikes be separated? • Will the regular route for people change? • Will there be more traffic, or will it make traffic? • Will there be more traffic? • Will we have a bike to the station • Winter? Bikes? • Worried about traffic giving right of way to cyclists, and accidents • You guys won’t have to worry about bike storage, and will make a profit •
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(Compilation) Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue: Now, Concerns This question was posed for Harding High School students only. [No] traffic control Accidents for people who use bikes and people who drive • And a lot of bikers • Bumpy roads (2) • Busy intersection (2) • Car crashes • Cars turning • Confusing intersection • Could be dangerous • Crosswalk enhancements • Cutting traffic lanes • Dangerous • Dangerous intersection (2) • Dangerous roads/no crossing • Easy car crashes • Environmental safety • Existing bus stops • Highways -- street lights • Hill • Is it safe for bicyclists? • It is very dangerous to cross the intersection • It’s messy • It’s really busy to cross especially since there’s a school/child care and gas station next to it • Lack of bike lanes • Less confusing too many turns • Lighting on both sides • •
Little to no crosswalks and bike lanes = not as safe • Metro bus preventing cars to turn and to move forward • More busy • More street signs? • More traffic and more time to go places because there’s only one car lane on each side • More traffic? • Narrow street • Need a smooth pavement • Need a smooth surface for biking • Need unlimited space • No bike lanes (2) • No bike lanes or crosswalks (2) • No bike lanes, sidewalk • No sidewalk(s) (6) • No sidewalk or crosswalk • No signs for pedestrians • No street lights • None for me personally • Not a smooth, safe surface for biking • Not as safe • Odd location (2) • One sided bike lanes (2) • One-sided sidewalk • Overcrowding • Potholes •
Pretty messy, confusing Road blocked Safety (5) Safety between 4-way stops Safety during morning or when it’s still dark in the morning, no lights not enough • Sidewalk(s) (2) • Sidewalk traffic • Sketchy • Small space for parking cars • Stop lights • Streets lights vs. signs • The busy street when it gets dark: need barrier, no side • The sidewalks need to be bigger • There are many intersections • Too many crosswalks • Too much to process such as bike lanes and crossing paths. • Too much traffic • Traffic (3) • Uneven roads • We would need street lights at night • What about at night for walkers and bikers there's never any lights only car lights • When it’s dark, it needs more lights • • • • •
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(Compilation) Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Pros, Advantages A lot safer for bikers, pedestrians • Absolutely nothing attractive or appealing. • Accessible to all • Adding bike lanes • After for people crosswalk • All good • Arrows for bikers • Arrows in bike lanes (on Wilson) • Available space for biking • Barrier for bikes (safety) • Barrier would make bikers and walkers safer • Bet either side of 94 • Better access • Better safety • Better/safer crossings • Bike crossing/people crossing • Bike lane & crosswalks for bikes and walkers. • Bike lane isn’t allowed to turn unless risk • Bike lanes (5) • Bike lanes won't, be easier to maneuver around people and more faster commute by bike • Bike line continues • Bikeway street • Biking areas • Block some turning for cars • Bus route • Bus station/ stop • Climate issues • Concerns of separation; barriers feel safer • Continuing the sidewalk is good • Crosswalk for people • Crosswalks (3) • Crosswalks - for bikers and walkers • Crosswalks and extended lanes • Crosswalks are good • Easy access to biking to stations • Easy bike and walk to Wilson • Etna Street station is close to Harding -- easier access for traveling purposes •
Extended bike lane • Faster and hopefully safer • Good for bikers (2) • Good for students • Good for walkers • Good plans (I agree); I think it’s good right now • Good transporting • Good travel option (2) • Having a sidewalk is good • Helpful bike/walkways • I like the ability to get to the other side of 94 and have access to Obbs restaurant • I like the idea, but not sure if this road is a perfect fit. • I like the walk bike path • I think we need sidewalks on Wilson Avenue • In favor of anything that connects north and south over these highways. • It gets safe by the highway by continuing the bike lane • It would be nice to have bike lanes as well for access to prospective stations • It would be wonderful to have a safe place to walk and feel at peace when you are walking • It would help people know where they are going to get to the bus • It’d be nice to have a way to walk to the new bus stop • It’s a much safer way to cross 94 & 61. • It’s nice to add the sidewalk on one side. • It’s safe for bikers and walkers • It’s wide • It's good for bikers • Less confusion at the intersections • Less traffic • Lights are good for walkers at night • Longer bikeways and crosswalks •
for pedestrians • Lot safer than now crosswalks and sidewalks • Makes it more active • Makes people feel safe and for others to know that it is a bike lane • More access • More access for bicyclists and cut down on car pollution as well • More accessible • More accessible for people who use a bike • More bike lanes • More defined • More defined area (bike lane looks like turn lane) • More lanes • More light • More organized and safe way for bikers and walkers to travel • More parking on the streets • More walking trails • More walkway (sidewalk) • More ways for bikers • New bike lanes • New bike lanes are cool (2) • New sidewalks for walkers and bikers • opportunity for consumers to become more healthy and mentally stable (2) • opportunity for individuals that are not interested in owning a vehicle (2) • opportunity for more human connections (2) • People, walking, biking better health • Safer • Safer and looks visually pleasing • Safer for people crosswalk • Safer route and people are able to cross and ride bikes • Safety bike routes • Seems like it will tidy things up
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Separation of bikes and cars Sidewalks (4) Sidewalks always make it safer Sidewalks are included • SIDEWALKS RULE! Need them. • Sidewalks will be great to have • Sidewalks would be great • Smooth surface (2) • Still access streets • That would be good because there are no sidewalks or bike trails • • • •
The bike and crosswalk lines are very helpful to people using their bikes • The building and changing of the streets • The sidewalks good • The street is really wide, which will prevent traffic and accidents • There might be an issues with parking • There should be a bike lane for •
bikers to bike There’s a bike lane There’s a bike lane for bikers (3) Two way bike lane • Two-way bike lanes give more room on the street • Walking lanes • We could get around better • We need sidewalks • Will not widen streets • • •
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(Compilation) Access – Etna Street and Wilson Avenue Plans: Cons, Concerns + What’s Missing, Suggestions [Bike lanes] need more defined area • [Need] Erosion control for steep hills at Wilson Ave • [project] needs better communication • 94 entrance going west, instead of having to go onto U-turn back onto 94 • A crosswalk light • Add lights • Add signs to show people are crossing • Alternative plans will be needed • Are cars and bikes going to share one lane? • Arrows for cars and students • Arrows for the bike lane (3) • Arrows to show that lanes are going opposite • Barrier for the biker lane (arrows) • Barriers (2) • Barriers that we can see • Bike barrier • Bike bollards • Bike crosswalk • Bike for highways • Bike lane (4) • Bike lane bollards/barriers • Bike lanes and crosswalks • Bike lanes slowed in the winter? • Bike marking • Bike poles (2) • Bike turning lanes • Bikers might get run over by cars • Bikes may stop cars from turning • Bikes plus cars can be bad because some car drivers are jerks. • Bollards to indicate bike lanes • Borders for the bike/walk lane • Brighter, more lights • Busy street; too much space • Cameras (3) • Cameras for safety • Cameras for whatever happens • Can slow down traffic? • Can’t stand moving •
Cars have to wait • Cars need to turn to Wilson while other cars are waiting for them • Cars on the sides • Cars will get slower to move if we were to bike on the same lane • Cars wouldn’t know people are crossing • Cause more traffic • Co biking signs • Communication to residents • Concerns about two-way bike lanes • Costs, costs and more costs to install and maintain. (2) • Crosswalk • Dangerous • Dangerous for biking • Disabled people to get on • Do bikes have a right of way? • Enough separation? A visible barrier would make it safer • Excessive movement • Fast oncoming traffic in every direction • Faster commute to the train • Flashing crosswalk signal at Wilson • Good drivers • Good environment • Good landscaping • Good landscaping (trees one plant) • Homeless people? How will you address this with your project? • Honestly Etna is not wide enough to add a two way bike way. Looks messy on the intersection • How are holes on the bike lane gonna be filled when there are poles in the way? • How are snow plows going to be with bike lanes • How are you making room? Are there really going to be very many bikers? • How far will the bike lane go • How much lighting will there be? •
How safe is it • How to plow bike lanes with bollards? • How will students ride their bike when it’s winter (ice on road) • I didn’t quite see, but it seemed there were. • I don't see this road being safe for bikers to use. people speed down this road a lot • I feel like it would be too much having bike and crosswalk around that area • I would like it if you make the road not bumpy, just flat, so it will be more easy for my bike • If adding a bike 2 way. And there are buses wouldn’t it be scary during winter? • If lane is done, we bike on sidewalk? • If you take away the side street parking there will be no parking for Wilson Hi-Rise residents and the guests who come to see us • In winter how will clean the snow from the road • Instead of using lines, maybe concrete walls for cars and bikes to not cause accidents within the lanes • It might take up half the space • It won’t be dangerous to cross the road • It's a very, very auto dominated intersection, need heavy support for walking. • Landscape • Less room for cars • Less space for cars (3) • Less space for vehicles • Lights • Looks like many people would lose street parking. • Metal poles should be put up to protect bikers from cars • More car crashes •
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More lights (5) More of those go bikes More people in over filled communities • More space • More street lights • More street lights at Wilson • Need a walk signal • Need bike lanes along Wilson • Need more room on double bike lanes • Need more stop lights • Need signage about bikepedestrian crossings to ensure safety • Need stop lights (2) • Need stop sign/lights • Need street access during construction • Need street lights • No barriers and space • No barriers between bikers and walkers • No bike lanes or bike crosswalk • No bike poles • No separation for the [two-way] biking lane • No signs to alert drivers • No street walk • No. The parking is needed • Nobody rides bikes so it’ll be a waste of money building it. • None • Not enough signs showing where to go • Not that many sidewalk • Nothing • Nothing attractive or appealing. • old Hudson road access will just create a drag racing street, i see nothing but accidents happening by adding that extension. • Open landscape • Parking is the issue at hand, did you not drive down this street? • Parking on the sides • Pedestrian crossing signs • Pedestrian sidewalks by highway • Physical barriers • Plowing bike lanes • • •
Potential danger Potholes or holes on the bike lanes • Privacy to other houses nearby • Protective barrier • Protective safety for bikes • Rental bikes (2) • Road size reduce • Safe and smooth road • Safety • Safety and security of people • Safety concerns • Safety first, always • Safety on alternative route • Same sidewalks • Security (2) • Security cameras (2) • Security cameras for safety • Separation of the bike and car lanes • Sidewalk • Sidewalk doesn’t go all the way up to station? Car lanes will be smaller • Signage • Signage and wayfinding to the station • Signs • Signs/markings in the bike lanes all the way down the street • Since there is a lot unused areas there isn’t any bike lanes. • Size of streets being reduced • Slow down traffic - danger of people pulling out of driveways • Smaller car driveway • Snow • Snow plow (3) • Snow-bikes get stuck • Snowing in the bike lanes. • Snowy weather not being able to see where the bike lane is • So if you add old Hudson access to Etna there will be 2 stop signs back to back in less then 20 ft? the image you have above makes no sense to me (will this be a round about?) • Southbound on Etna, how to make a safe left turn at Wilson? • •
Special safety concerns Special safety concerns about Hwy 61 northbound • Speed checking machine • Stop light at Wilson • Stop light/ traffic lights • Stop lights (3) • Stop lights vs. stop signs • Stop sign(s) (4) • Stop signs/ lights • Stop signs/lights • Street cameras • Street lights (7) • Street lights for new sidewalks and bike lanes • Street size reductions • street/ sidewalks • Streets will be narrower • Takes up the turning space • Taking lots of spaces • Tell us the station (2) • The bike and walk lanes by the hill • The bike lanes and car lanes are basically one. If this is, what will speed limits be? • The bus is somewhere, where it is possible to get in better • The E bound 94 on ramp was just redone and now you want to change it? Just don’t. • The space within cars will decrease; it will eventually make cars to exit the highway more difficult to not be stuck in rush hour or traffic • There’s nothing else missing • There’s too much -- roads/bike lanes going in different directions • They need lights so if people walk it will be much safer • Too many potholes • Too many things going on • Too messy • Traffic (3) • Traffic and bus delay • Traffic lights (3) • Trees • Trees / more nature / landscape • Unlimited spaces • Unsafe in winter • •
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Very busy intersection Very concerned about the bridge crossing 61 to Etna/ Pacific. This is a very secluded corner. I think it will be dangerous and increase trouble in the area. • Visible barriers (4) • Walking at street level across the N bound 61 to É bound 94 onramp is beyond stupid • Walking sign • Wayfinding • We should fix the sidewalks for bikers instead to save road space • Weather (2) • Weather (snow) • Weather condition • •
What about putting stoplights at the Wilson/Etna intersection instead of a 4-way stop to make traffic safer • What if don’t know direction? • what is the potential out of pocket expense for renters and home owners (2) • Where the bus stops are, are there going to be sidewalks? • Will bike lanes be plowed during winter? • Will there be any pedestrian crossing road if a new sidewalk is added? • Will where be space for cars to back at? •
Will you be removing houses to create more area for the proposed? • Worried about accidents with cyclists and not giving each other right-of-way when necessary • Worried about traffic giving pedestrians and bikers right-ofway when necessary • Wouldn’t it be crowded because the space is divided so little • You should add a sign for the bike lane and the cars because it will be more safe if the car knows where the bikes are heading •
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(Compilation) Corridor Walk and Bike Trail (Burns Avenue) Theses questions were posed to all participants except Harding High School students.
Attractive, Appealing Easy access Good to get a trail, best is close to regular roads. • i do like the bike lane, will they have safety markers • I think it would be good to continue the bike trail on Burns Avenue past Hwy 61 • I think this is going to be wonderful • No parking on burns? It would make it less congested. • Not sure; have not seen them • opportunity for consumers to become more healthy and mentally stable • opportunity for individuals that are not interested in owning a vehicle • opportunity for more human connections • •
Questions, Concerns, Suggestions Absolutely nothing attractive or appealing. Accidents between traffic and cyclists -- not giving each other right-of-way • Costs, costs and more costs to install and maintain. • how many hills are there? • Safety is my main concern considering we have a lot of drunk drivers • Safety of residents backing out of their own driveways • The trail is still at street level at the 61/Burns intersection. Trucks often have a hard time stopping here. Anyone that’s crossed this intersection on foot knows it’s far from ideal. Actually, it’s horrible. An elevated crosswalk (bridge) needs to be made to cross 10/61 at burns or at Warner Rd. (Connected to Burns Ave scenic overlook) • what is the potential out of pocket expense for renters and home owners • will the home owners be assessed for this work? • Would like to know if they are going to mow, have trees and plants, etc., on the walk and bike trails • •
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(Compilation) Land Use Plans Pros and What’s Missing/Suggestions Affordable housing (4) Affordable housing (low to mid income levels) • all of the newer proposals are potential a great asset to the over all communities • Apartments • Arrows [wayfinding] for walking, buses, students, turning, highway, biking, car parking • Attraction to the place like buildings, restaurant, etc. • Better attraction • Bike rails • Bike ramps • Budget of changing the environment • Business on 3rd street • Camera poles • Charging ports • Classes and education • Clean apartments • Clothing store (2) • Coffee shop (10) • Community service • Concerns about noise level • Convenience store (2) • Destination • Employment opportunity (2) • Fast food places (2) • Fast food restaurants (2) • Fast food takeout • Food (2) • Food places • Food service(s) (2) • Food shop • Food shop (for students and workers that didn’t have time to eat at home) • Food stores • Future ghettos. • Gift shop (3) • Good idea • Good landscaping (2) • Grocery store • Hangout places (3) • •
Higher density Housing (3) Housing needs sound protection from BRT • How would gold line buses run? How would that impact the environment? • I feel it is great for the potential future to happen and to have apartments and a public part • I feel the city needs more low income housing; Housing needs to be affordable for all residents and now it's not affordable for everyone • I like the station plaza and park areas • I think they should put parks • i would love to see more restaurants in the new commercial area. • Increase BRT ridership • Investment into making my neighborhood better is good • Landscape • Less space for parks or natural things like trees • Make fence (maybe) so people can understand which road o take and which not to • Making more business accessible via foot traffic is good • Making the sidewalks safe around the 61/94 interchange is going to difficult/expensive. I fear that it will be done cheaply and therefore unsafe and unused. • Maybe make stores near Harding high school so students can use the line to get to their workplace • Mini stores • More affordable housing is great. • More bikes • More businesses • More choices • More corner stores • • •
More green space More houses (2) More housing -- apartments -cheaper • More jobs • More land use while expanding the roads? • More locations for grocery stores that isn’t cubs or bigger • More neighborhoods • More sidewalk for kids to walk • More trees are being cut down, people have to pay more for the transportation • No cons • Not having people looking into houses • nothing • Park for bikes • Park for kids • Parking space (2) • Parks (5) • People that don’t have transportation don’t have many ways • Place to hang out (3) • Police station • Portable housing • Privacy (4) • Privacy -- so BRT users aren’t looking into people’s houses • Recreation • Restaurant(s) (11) • Restaurants & fast food (2) • Safety (2) • Safety for bikers and walkers • Safety spots for buses • Security (2) • Security cameras • Senior housing (2) • Shopping • shopping at stations • shopping, restaurants • Shops (2) • Sidewalks • Small stores that might attract • • •
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more people (2) Sound protection (3) Spacious apartments Starbucks (to get coffee in the morning or to study) • Stop signs • Storage • Store near school. So anything we want to eat we can go and grab it • Stores • Support safe active BRT station area (2) • Takes up a lot of space • the attraction for me is the use of unused space for generating community • • •
the proposal allows consumers to be more active and mobile during colder seasons • There are a couple things missing, coffee shops, parks, and more gas stations. • There is a large open space of land by the gas station where Etna ends, could be used (2) • They should put in a privacy wall between station and 94 and give it more space • Try to work around climate changes • Visibility protection • Water fountain •
Water stops what is the potential out of pocket expense for renters and home owners • Wheel pumper for bikes • Wide variety of housing (2) • will any of the new development force people from the location due to needing to use the land/property • Will these housings be open to everyone of all levels of income? • Would like to see coffee shop, restaurant, grocery, or coop • •
Concerns Absolutely nothing attractive or appealing. • Not a lot of space • Not a lot of space for pick-up, drop-off • Not having enough low income/affordable housing for residents • People do not like multi-family housing • There would be less rooms in •
• Turning the city into a ghetto of streets or in general low income housing this area has a lot of apartments already and not the best would • Who is going to buy up that area bring in more car traffic which this and develop that land like that? area can't handle It's not like it's urban blight. • This is not Europe. We have • Wilson high rise and that area is plenty of space to expand single really crime ridden, unless you family housing rather than living clean that up the new apartments like rats in confined spaces. and condos will go down hill quickly • too many issues now with existing apartment buildings •
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(Compilation) Destinations Now Aldi (6) Bowling Brooklyn Park • Chili’s • Conway Rec Center • Cub • Downtown • Entertainment • Food places (2) • Ha Tien Supermarket (3) • Harding High School (2) • I want to go home • I want to go to Target and get me some chips • I want to go visit my grandma, aunts, uncles, little cousins • • •
Just driving around Library (2) Mall (2) • Mall of America (5) • Maplewood (2) • Maplewood Mall (3) • McDonald’s (4) • Movie theater (2) • Movies (3) • Parents go to work • Parks • Rec centers • Restaurants (4) • Science Museum • Shopping • Shopping at places • • •
Sports St Paul College Starbucks (2) • Stores (3) • Suburban Avenue • Sun Ray (7) • Sun Ray (ice cream) • Target (11) • Theatres • University • Visit family (2) • Walmart (2) • Wendy’s • Woodbury • Woodbury theater • Xcel Center • • •
(Compilation) Destinations: Future via Gold Line or Trail 3M STEP program Aldi (2) Apollo Restaurant (2) Appointments Big Thrill Factory • Closer to retail stores • Connect to other SPPS schools • Costco (3) • Cub Foods • Destinations on Suburban Avenue • Dollar General • Downtown Minneapolis • Downtown St Paul (2) • Education • Grocery stores (2) • Hotels • I could go to target and all those places walking now • I would totally take the bus to go to movies in Woodbury • Jobs • Jobs near other stations (Earl Street) • Lake (2) • • • • •
Library (2) Mall of America (2) Many places I know that I like going to • Maplewood • Maplewood Mall (2) • Maplewood Mall (via transfer) • Maplewood station • Maybe go biking and just to see the world • Medical appointments • Metro State • Movie theatre (2) • Movies (4) • My friend’s house • New Cub Foods • Other malls • Parents go to work • Parking • Parks (5) • Parks (Battle Creek Park) • Portillo’s (Woodbury) (2) • Recreation centers (2) • Restaurants (2) • • •
Science Museum Shopping Shopping at places Store Sun Ray (2) • Sun Ray Bowling (2) • Takes me to work • Takes you to retail • Target (4) • Tartan High School • there are many I visit presently however the ability to use the ease of trails and light rail is definitely more preferable on season appropriate days • Union Depot • University of Minnesota (2) • Visit family • Walmart (3) • Walmart on Maryland • Woodbury • Woodbury Theater 10 for a job • Xcel Center • • • • •
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The summary graphic below reflects responses from a small subset of participants who responded with entries in a table format.
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