Plug'd In Magazine Issue #54

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WE SIT DOWN WITH MAX CAVALERA DURING THE “MAXIMUM CAVALERA” TOUR

Inside this issue

This Is: Max Cavalera of Soulfly, Dear Dead Abby, Artist Spotlight: Nick Van Wagenen of Silhouette Lies, Impact: Oderus Urungus of Gwar

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This Is: Max Cavalera of Soulfly Interview by Michael Demos It’s always cool when you get to sit down and interview a person whom you looked up to when you were a kid. I got “Beneath The Remains” when it first came out by Sepultura and the early 90’s. I played it till I had to get a new tape because the old one wore out. I’ve been a Sepultura fan and later a Soulfly fan for 20 years now. So it was definitely an honor to sit down with Soulfly front man/guitarist Max Cavalera. We sat on his bus right before their killer show at Reverb in Reading, Pa. We talked about the new album and the fans response, his love of soccer jerseys, and what famous person he shares his birthday with. Here’s what Max had to say…M.D. PI: You guys have been doing some extensive touring lately. How has this tour been treating you?

MC: It’s been great. We just hit NY, Syracuse, and Flint, Michigan. Before this tour we were out with Five Finger Death Punch which was awesome.

Before that we went to Mexico and had really cool shows there. We did Mexico City with Destruction which was awesome. This is the “Maximum Cavalera Tour” with my kids and everything. Incite and Lody Kong are both my kids bands. To be able to tour around with my kids is awesome.

The shows are great, the fans are awesome, and we’re having a great time.

PI: What have your fans been singing along to most at these shows?

MC: It depends. A lot of the Soulfly classics like “Prophecy”, “Primitive”, “Eye For An Eye”, but they’re also digging the new stuff. We start off with “World Scum”, “American Steel”, and we do “Revengeance” where we get all the kids on stage with us.

PI: “Enslaved” just came out in March. How has the reaction been so far?

MC: Really good. The more we play it the more they get into it. I’m not one of those people who when they have a new album come out they only play the new stuff, I play the old stuff as well. The old stuff is important so I mix them up and right now we’re playing 5 new tracks like “Gladiator”, “World Scum”, and “American Steel”. Later on we might add some more, but right now those are good to mix with the old stuff.

PI: It’s been a good tour but how does it compare with something huge like Rock In Rio? Is your excitement level just as high?

MC: I think the smaller shows are cooler because you get closer to your crowd and you get to be more in contact with them. You get to touch them and see the circle pits form. It’s really exciting and great to get the people jumping up on stage and stage diving. Sometimes at big festivals you’re too far away and there’s too much distance from you and the crowd. Small shows are so easy to get into. They’re more fun!

PI: You’ve had an extensive touring career. What do you do when you get time off to unwind?

MC: It depends where I am. Sometimes I just go for a walk. Just recently we got to go to the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame Museum. They had a display with some Sepultura stuff that just came out last year and it was real nice to see.

When we’re in Europe we try to go sightseeing and see the Coliseum or the Eiffel Tower. Other times I’m just in the back of the bus watching movies or listening to my IPod. Ther show is the most important time though. That’s why we’re here. Basically, everyday I’m just waiting to go onto stage and fuck shit up! (Laughs) PI: Your U.S. tour right now happens to be in the middle of an election year. Do you follow politics at all?

MC: A little bit here and there. I like Obama, he’s good, and we have the same birthday! He gets extra points from me for that! (PI) Trying to get a White House tip in there Max? (MC) Laughs. Oh yea!

PI: How does U.S. politics compare to Brazil?

MC: I think Brazil is really following in the steps of America. Obama was America’s first

(Cont’d)

black President and Brazil has their first woman President. I think that’s a direct influence from the states. I think they see it over here and think it’s good; that they can do it over there too. Americas a good influence. I think it’s great that Brazil has their first woman President. She’s doing a good job and Brazil is doing better than ever. I was just there like a month ago and it’s amazing how good people are doing there now. Their doing better than a lot of other parts of the world now and that’s funny because they were always worse off with the economy and the violence. It’s getting better now and we’ve got the World Cup and the Olympics. That will definitely make it better for the country.

PI: How do the kids back home respond to what you’ve done over here? Do they look up to you and find it inspiring?

MC: I think so. I think they see that if someone else can do it so can they. I’m kind of a Brazilian diplomat outside of the country. I carry the Brazilian flag on my guitar and on the stage. I also have the U.S. flag because it’s an American tour. But yeah, the kids are proud of what I did with both Sepultura and Soulfly. When I was there a month ago I had an amazing show in San Paulo and it was packed. It had been 10 years since I played there so there was a real high level of anticipation and it was a great show!

PI: Was the show there any different from here?

MC: Not at all. That’s what I love about metal…it crosses all boundaries.

It’s a tribal thing. It’s how we feel. It’s how we are different from society. It’s the way we dress and the way we live.

It’s why I fell in love with metal when I first heard it. I liked the feeling of being different. I am proud of who I am. Who wants to be normal? I don’t want to be normal.

PI: You talk a lot about “World Music” and you incorporate so many different instruments into your music. Where do your inspirations come from?

MC: It comes from other people. I really admire Paul Simon and everything he’s done. I like exotic flavors. Maybe it’s because I’m from Brazil? It’s a different exotic country. I like to go to different countries to record, but I wasn’t able to do that for “Enslave”. Unfortunately that was done in Phoenix, but I’m going to travel to do the next one. I want to continue to bring the World Music flavor to Soulfly.

PI: What have you not accomplished with your music yet?

MC: What I would like to do with music is do it for a long time. I want to have a huge discography. (PI) You’re getting there. (MC) Laughs. There’s been a lot of records and it’s been really cool. It’s a long process and it takes a lot of patience. My fantasies don’t extend to being on the radio or TV. That doesn’t concern me. It did happen to me for a little while with Sepultura and I didn’t really enjoy it much. I thought it was kind of stupid. I much rather prefer this kind of level where the fans really know you, love you, and are fanatic, but not out of control…You can still be a very grounded person. I like the environment where I am now.

PI: We heard you love collecting jerseys from local sports teams. I know tonight you’re supposed to be getting one from the Reading Royals, our local Hockey team. How did that come about?

MC: It started in Sepultura and I put it on a Rider. The promoters had to give me a soccer shirt of the country I was in and a lot of them really got into it. They would get all the players to sign the shirts and it became very special. I wanted to do the same thing in America but it didn’t pick up so much. It’s more of a European thing. I have a huge collection of soccer shirts. I keep all of them and wear them from time to time. Sometimes I will give them as present to close friends, but mostly I keep them. Sometimes I give them away as donations or to the hospital. (Cont’d)

PI: Tell us a little more about your charity work.

MC: I do a little bit. My son was diagnosed Diabetic when he was one years old.

We started a fund for him called Iggy Diabetes Fund. It helps poor people buy equipment for diabetes when they can’t afford it themselves. I go to the hospitals every year to meet the kids and do a meet and greet session with them. I try to let them know how good my kid is doing. He is a band now and has diabetes, but he’s doing alright.

PI: You’ve got to be the proudest Father ever right? It’s every Father’s dream to have their kids follow in their footsteps. I mean they’re out on tour with you now.

MC: I’ve gotten to see them a couple times in New York. They’re really good. I encourage them, but I try to let them do their own thing. I don’t want to tell them everything. It’s fun for them to discover things. I want them to struggle and figure things out for themselves. They need to figure out how to get there by themselves.

PI: What’s next Max? PI: Touring and then next year another record. Then lot’s more touring! It’s cool, I never get tired of it!

PI: Anything you want to say to your fans?

MC: Thanks for all your support and I love the fact that they love “Enslaved”. It’s a different record, more extreme. I took a chance making an album like that and I’m glad people really like it.

PI: Thanks for sitting down with us and giving us a chance to get Plug’d In. MC: Cool man, thanks!

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Dear Dead Abby Abby was born and raised in the coal regions of Northeastern Pennsylvania. The oldest of eight, she constantly had her younger brothers and sisters asking her questions about everything from how things work to why that boy threw dirt on her. She’d try to steer them straight with her advice, though sometimes she could be a bit sarcastic.

Abby also had an uncanny ability to see the truth in people, despite what they tried to portray with their lies. Unfortunately, this led the locals to believe that she was with surrounded with dark forces. The summer before her final year of school, Abby was sentenced to death by hanging, without a proper trial, simply stating that she was a witch. Abby can’t recognize the faces of her family through death, but she answers questions, thinking it might be one of her siblings needing her guidance.

Q. Is there such a thing as Heaven? Or any afterlife at all? P.T. A. I don’t know, I’m stuck in limbo.

Q. I think my girlfriend is a lesbian. We never have sex anymore and when we do she wants to watch "girl on girl" porn to get turned on. She always goes out with her best friend who is bi-sexual and I'm starting to wonder if their messing around. What should I do? H.F.B. A. If that’s how you feel, break up with her. Have you confronted her about it? How would she feel if it were reversed? I wouldn’t date a gay male.

Q. I've submitted like 5 questions and you've never posted any of them! What gives? K.F. A. I don’t initially get the questions. They are given to me. Maybe yours just don’t get through the screening process. I answer what I’m given.

Q. If the end of mankind would come this year 1) what do you think would cause it? 2) Would there be any survivors? I.R. A. Nuclear war. No one you want to encounter.

Q. Gas prices are dropping. Is it because it's election time? By the way, who would you vote for if a dead girl could vote? Anon A. Yes, it’s a continuous cycle that never ends. Since I’m dead, I pay no attention to the principles of the candidates, therefore I don’t have an answer as to who I would vote for, but generally, you find the one who most closely matches what you believe and feel would do the best job for our country in every aspect, economy, wars, social mountains, i.e. abortion and gay/lesbian marriage.

Q.I check my boyfriend’s phone when he's not looking sometimes. I don't think he's cheating, but I want to keep him honest. Is there anything wrong with that? T.E. A. If you don’t trust him, break up with him. Trust is a crucial element to relationships. If you can’t trust someone, there’s no point in being together. “To keep him honest?” That is a bogus bullshit reason if I’ve ever heard one. That’s not keeping him honest. If he’s cheating, that’s only making him craftier. You’re one of those crazy girls who call him every 15 minutes when he’s out with his friends to check up on him, aren’t you?

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Artist Spotlight: Nick Van wagenen of Silhouette Lies Interview by Vicki Sin For those familiar with the Northeast Pennsylvania region, you’re probably aware of the abundance of musical talent that the area possesses. Maybe it’s the depressed atmosphere that gives us perfectly brooding musicians, or maybe there’s just something in the water. Whatever the case, the Scranton area has been turning out some great acts in recent years. No exception to this is post hardcore quintet Silhouette Lies. The group has only been around since mid-2010 but they’re quickly gaining attention with their blend of melodic hooks, identifiable lyrics, and raw energy. The first time I had seen them live they gained my immediate approval with a well-executed cover of Sweet Dreams; a song that, to me, is punishable by death if botched by anyone. Needless to say, they made a fan right there. I recently sat down with vocalist Nick Van Wagenen who told me more about the band’s diverse influences and which show actually brought him to tears. Read on, and as always, support local music! V.S. PI: Describe your band's sound to someone who has never heard of you before.

NV: Silhouette Lies' sound can be described in ten different ways by ten different people. We are a band that draws from the various musical influences of each member to make, what we look at, as a very unique sound. Fans of contemporary rock may notice the strong influence of modern post-hardcore bands such as Thrice, Story of the Year, Lostprophets, and AFI among many others. While more decorated fans of rock and metal have noted the subtle undertones of Deftones, Faith No More, and even Iron Maiden.

PI: What's your lyric writing process like?

NV: Rafael, our lead guitarist, and I do all of the lyric writing. Usually we will write a full song as a band without any solid lyrics. Then we go back and really listen to the tone and mood of each composition before one or both of us come up with a theme or direction that we'd like the song to take lyrically. One of us will then write a rough draft of the song before presenting it to the entire band for opinions and feedback.

PI: Where did you get the name Silhouette Lies?

NV: The name Silhouette Lies comes directly from the lyrics of the song 'Silhouette' by Thrice, a common musical influence among all 5 band members.

PI: What's your favorite memory from any of the shows you've played?

NV: We've only been a band for about 2 years and the entire journey so far has been a dream come true. Music is my life, and from the time I was a child it has always been my goal to write and perform music. That being said, one moment in particular sticks out. Last February we released our first EP 'The War Within' it was put together very quickly and quite sloppily but at the time we couldn’t be happier. We played our first headline show at The Vintage Theater, an all ages venue in Scranton, to what seemed to us like a packed house. All my friends, family members, and fellow local musicians were in attendance. While performing the title track off of our EP, the crowd responded by loudly and passionately singing along. Now, this has become commonplace at our shows and it still puts an enormous smile on my face every time, but at that moment my excitement was almost too much for me to handle. I'm not at all ashamed to say that I cried that night. I cried on stage out of pure elation and astonishment. (Cont’d)

That's something I will never forget.

PI: Who was your biggest musical influence growing up and presently?

NV: I was raised on KISS, Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper, Skid Row, Judas Priest, and just about every other 70's-80's era rock/metal band you can name. So I can say without any doubt that my biggest musical influence then, and now, is my father. It is because of him I was raised on rock and because of him I live and breathe music. His passion for music rubbed off on me at a very young age, it got down deep and there's no getting rid of it. He supports me and Silhouette Lies and comes to any and every show he can make it to.

PI: If you could get on any music festival, which one would you choose and why?

NV: I think Warped Tour would be a perfect fit for Silhouette Lies. While I haven't been a huge fan of their direction or lineups over the past couple of years, I still feel that they offer a wide variety of sounds and genres that attract numerous people of different musical interests. With the eclectic sound of Silhouette Lies, I feel that we could appeal to many different fans of many different genres.

PI: Any plans on releasing an album?

NV: Currently, we are putting the finishing touches on a new EP that should be out this summer. It will only be a few songs but the production and recording quality will run circles around our first EP and give fans a better idea of what SL is all about.

Hopefully once that EP is out we can take the time to start work on a full length album.

PI: Tell us where people can find your music/merchandise.

NV: We use Facebook as our primary site for contacting us, show info, and everything else you would like to know. Please stop by and give us a 'like'. We do have some recordings from our first EP online but we'd much rather people check us out at a live show or perhaps even a live YouTube video, as we feel that will give you a better representation of the band. We do have t-shirts, stickers, buttons, and other various merch items available exclusively at live shows and events. All upcoming shows can be found on our Facebook page.

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Impact: Oderus Urungus of Gwar Interview by Vicki Sin The first thing that I said when I landed a gig at Plug’d In was, “I need to interview Gwar someday”. I couldn’t have had that wish come true on a more poignant day for the self -proclaimed “greatest band in rock and roll history”, when they came to their final stop of an eventful and emotional tour this past Saturday at the Croc Rock in Allentown, Pa. A month into the Return of the World Maggot tour last November, long time guitarist Cory Smoot (aka Flattus Maximus) suddenly passed away on the tour bus from heart complications. The news shocked and devastated the tight knit Gwar community. Any other band might have called it quits in light of the tragedy, but that wasn’t in the cards for our beloved Scumdogs. Picking up the pieces and getting back on the road, they set out to finish what they started, all the while honoring the memory of their fallen family member while sacrificing effigies of a pregnant Snooki and her unborn child, and spraying their fake but still oddly satisfying blood and gore on hordes of eager fans decked out in their traditional white garb. Along with Flattus’ character, the expectedly tongue in cheek, yet oddly soulful ballad “The Road Behind” has now been retired, with front man Oderus Urungus proclaiming “I hope we never have to play this fucking song again”. And so the band trudges on, with more debauchery in the works and an always sprightful Oderus turning his attention back towards picking on everyone everywhere. In the beginning of our talk, he was in his usual mood, but as we talked about Cory, the character of Oderus started to slip away and Dave Brockie, the mastermind behind the latex laden rockers, spoke candidly about the release of his friend’s solo material, as well as what we can expect from the next Gwar album.

PI: This is your final stop on tour. I saw on your Twitter that you’re actually going to be retiring “The Road Behind” tonight.

DB: Well, you know, I said that. I didn’t get clearance from the other guys in the band, so it might not even be true, but if I have anything to do with it, yes, we will be not playing this song to be for a very long time, methinks. If ever again. And yes, just to get more people to pay attention to my Twitter feed I say stuff like that all the time.

PI: As everyone knows, this is the end of the tour that you started with Cory and you’re finishing without him. Tell us more about The Cory Smoot Experiment that will be coming out in June.

DB: Well apparently, Cory was working on his own music. He had been doing his own thing for some time, a lot of different music projects that he had, and he wanted to do a solo project and he wanted me to sing some vocals on it, and I mean- I’m kinda getting rid of the Oderus character right now due to the nature of the question- but he had this group of songs that he wanted to do really bad and he wanted to get me to sing on them and I listened to them and I was like “These songs are awesome!” and I can’t really see writing lyrics to all these songs and it not being a Gwar album, any time I’m going to commit to writing a whole album’s worth of material, and do the lyrics to them as well, that’s a huge undertaking, to write that many songs, perform them, record them. I was like, if I’m gonna put that much effort into something it’s got to be for Gwar, because that’s my number one priority. So, Cory wasn’t deterred by that. He just went off and kind of recorded the vocals himself, and that’s kind of what the Corey Smoot Experiment is. It’s probably something that never would have seen the light of day if what had happened hadn’t happened. But we saw it as a way to get this music out there and also, working with the label, create an income stream for his family. So, Metal Blade is really awesome about it. They put the record out. The only criticism I’ve heard about it is “Oh, the album art’s kind of cheesy”.

Well of course the album art’s kinda cheesy! Cory did it on his computer himself! He did EVERYTHING about that fucking record himself. He played all the drums, he did all the singing, he did all the producing, all the recording, and you know, you can’t be great at everything, goddammit. Usually most musicians think it’s pretty easy. Like “Oh, I made that look good.” They don’t see how cheesy it is. They’re in love with Photoshop filters. They’re like “WOW, it’s gonna make things look like glass?! WOW!” They have no idea how cheesy it actually fucking was, so (Cont’d)

yeah, it’s out there. It’s gonna be released June 1st and I believe it’s already getting downloaded and stuff, so we’re very happy. So yeah, that’s happening just right when this tour’s wrapping up, so we really, really dealt with this whole experience in an absolutely amazing way and I think we just kinda wrote the book on how to deal with it, basically. (Laughs) PI: What was the first concert that had you ever gone to and how did it impact you?

DB: I guess the first concert I ever went to was Ted Nugent, the Scorpions, and Blackfoot at the Capitol Center in Largo, Maryland. I guess when I was about 12 years old. I already loved hard rock. I got into rock and roll music from my older brother, listening to Beatles albums. I loved them tracks like Helter Skelter, and the more distorted and fucked up the sound, the more I liked it. When I was a little kid I used to love Jimi Hendrix and shit like that and then when metal started happening and punk started happening, that’s just when I was starting to grow up, so yeah it had a huge impact on me. When I saw it live it was the first time I got the live music itch, and yea, my life has been a series of shows ever since then.

PI: Recently you had picked on Hellyeah, and Dave Mustaine. Nobody really is safe…

DB: It’s GWAR! (PI) Anybody on your nerves this week? (DB) Oh no, really I’m at peace with the world today.

There’s plenty people I’d like to bitch about, but I’m not, because it’s not prudent. I always make sure my targets are well picked, though sometimes they can be very spontaneous. Let me rephrase that: I like to delude myself and say my targets are well picked, but both those Dave Mustaine and Hellyeah comments were completely spontaneous. I’m surprised that people in the press don’t try to prod me into it more often. Since the tour’s almost over and I’m looking forward to a little bit of a break, I’m gonna keep my mouth shut now.

PI: I saw the clip from the “War Party” video on the Facebook page…

DB: I just thought that was a real cool shot of Corey in Times Square. Man, that was really one of the coolest things we ever got to do together. That picture of him pointing is just like, you know, he was so happy that day and you know, just remembering him in moments like that is just better. (PI) Good memory. (DB) Yeah, definitely. A very good memory. (PI) It was really nice what you wrote on that. I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bring tears to my eyes.

(DB) I really jerked the heartstrings on this one, haven’t I? (PI) You have! (DB) It’s almost tricked people into thinking I have feelings. (Laughs) (PI) I think fans need that connection. (DB) Yeah, and tonight, we’re gonna kinda draw that to a close and set our sights forward and we’re gonna do that with our Gwar tribe tonight. This is one of the greatest strongholds of Gwar activism in the world, so I look for a very cathartic, emotionally uplifting experience tonight.

PI: Speaking of which, you have a new CD in development. I know there’s not much out about it. Is there anything you can tell us about it, though? Are you continuing to explore a darker side? In light of recent events, is this going to be a sadder album?

DB: I’d hate it if, I hope it’s not a sad album. No, I think the albums have kind of been getting (Cont’d)

denser and twisted musically, the subject matter will be a little darker, and I’m always happy with Gwar’s dark side because it always seems like, no matter how dark you might try to paint Gwar it always is just a set up for making fun of it, you know? We make ourselves look all big and badass JUST so we could make fun of ourselves before other people do. That’s the kind of trick to Gwar’s success. So yeah, I can already see lyrically in the songwriting process I kind of have the idea in my head. I can’t really let it go of course until the albums out, but yeah, it’s completely influenced by recent events and basically drawing a parallel between that and use it as a metaphor for something else, and we’ll see where that ends up. It’s kind of important to get it out by the end of the year, cause it kinda ties into the Mayan apocalypse theory a little bit. But that’s looking like it’s probably not gonna happen, so I’m in the process of modifying it a little bit. That was kind of never the idea about it anyway. We’re looking really at the next album as being a very dark, twisted vision of Earth’s near future as colored by recent events. If you look at the events that have been occurring on the planet Earth for the last 10 years, is any indicator of what the rest of the century is gonna be like, whoa, we’re in for a rough ride, and in doing so maybe kind of use Cory’s death as a symbol of that, kind of link them together somehow. Like Flattus leaving GWAR was our 9/11, you know? How did that affect the future of GWAR? So that’s kind of what we’re grappling with on the new album and it’s gonna be super interesting. Definitely Flattus will be a big part of the whole songwriting process, even if it’s not as obvious as a song about Flattus, he’s still gonna be a part of everything. And not really Flattus, so much as the loss of our really good friend, Cory.

PI: Did you see the hologram Tupac thing?

DB: Yea and I just don’t support that shit at all. It’s horrible. The estates of these musicians are just willing to do anything to make money. They’ll stop at nothing, they’ll stoop to everything, and they’ll just- ugh. It’s just disgusting to me. Where do you draw the line? There’s nowhere that you can draw the line. They actually took recordings of his voice and chopped up the words. I’ve been making jokes about that for years, telling interviewers, if I maybe had not such a great interview, “Oh, you could just take my words and chop them up, put them where ever you want.” And now they’re really doing it for real now. That’s kind of fucking horrible. You have to ask yourself, is that what the artist would want? I would have to say, I don’t think Tupac would want that. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t want that. (PI) We were just talking about that, how like Kurt Cobain would never want that.

(DB) Yea! It’s the ultimate violation. Considering his background and political activism, there’s no way he’d want his words minced up and put back together so a bunch of rich record company dudes could make money off his fucking carcass and be misrepresented like that. Fuck that. No artist worth his salt would ever do that shit.

PI: It always comes up in my interviews, the state of the music industry, and how much it’s changed. Especially since you guys started. With record sales down, you have to rely heavily on touring and merch to make money.Where do you think the future of the industry is going, now that everything’s mainly internet? What are your thoughts on that?

DB: Well, I mean the greatest thing that’s happened as far as the music industry’s concerned is the ability of bands to control their own destinies. We’re doing it like never before. We’re a lucky band. We still own about half of our masters. We learned the hard way, you don’t sell your masters, you license them. We’ve been around long enough to not make mistakes these new bands come out with and they sign these “all in” deals, which is really a (Cont’d)

scary new thing that’s happening and I would avoid it like the plague. We have the great luxury of having an active worldwide fan base. We call our own shots. It makes it a lot easier for a band that’s not a platinum or gold selling act, which hardly anybody is anymore. It’s like impossible to sell that many records, insanely impossible to sell that many records- and it gives us our ability, if we’re going to sell 10,000-20,000 records, we’re gonna make every penny of that. We license our shit to Metal Blade. We get most of the money, so it’s pretty cool. So I think, as much as people bitch about the internet and downloading shit or ripping stuff, whatever, for everything the internet took away from us, it gave us back a thousand fold. As far as these rich rock stars, I guess it’s pretty old school news about Napster and shit like that, but they’re still fighting that kind of stuff. (PI) Now we have Spotify. (DB) Yeah, that’s all on Facebook, and that’s all free, right? They have where you can pay for it, but it’s basically free. I can go on and listen to whatever I want. Yeah, I need to sign up for that because it looks really cool.

PI: You guys have the Zombie Prom coming up in NYC on June 9th. If Oderus could bring anyone as his date, who would it be?

DB: Vampirella, definitely without a doubt. That’s why you hardly see any chicks dressed up as Vampirella at like comic cons and stuff, they just can’t do it. (PI) Nobody can pull that off. (DB) Nobody can pull off fucking Vampirella. Without a doubt, Vampirella.

PI: Thank you so much for making time for us.

DB: Thank you! Excellent interview!

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