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In the 70s, new post-modern design movement came into fierce conflict with the old guard of the modernist school which led to many debates on design and artistic theory as well as teaching method, including ‘The Debate’ which is analysed within this essay. The Debate in question is the great Debate between modernist designer Wim Crouwel and post-modernist designer Jan van Toorn which occurred in 1972. The two designers in this debate were influential in the Netherlands and their design styles could not be more different. Both of them were hired to do the same briefs which gives an excellent place to compare and contrast the post-modernist to the modernist design technique. As a graphic designer, Wim Crouwel was firmly rooted within the modernist school of design in that the designer’s sole duty is to present the client’s message.This means to have complete objectivity within their approach to their design brief. It is the message of the client which is the primary concern. The designer is not the focus of attention. The designer focuses on making the message of the client as clear as possible in the most beautiful way that projects well with client; where a designer fades into the background without projecting any personal opinions and views whatsoever as it will confuse the message of their work.
Paradoxically, Jan van Toorn feels that design should explicitly project and critique social meaning within their designs and act subjectively as an intermediary and engage the viewer with the personal concerns of the designer. The works of these two designers could not be more different. A fine example of this is when they both were given the same brief to design the cover and spread of the Christmas issues of Drukkersweekblad en Autolijn in 1961 and in 1968. Crouwel’s cover and spread for the Drukkersweekblad en Autolijn are neatly grided with strong colours and it is laid out in a clear logical way which is easy to understand although it is visually uninteresting.
Picture 1: Crouwel’s cover and spread (Christmas issue of Drukkersweekblad en Autolijn, 1961)
In comparison, van Toorn’s cover and spread for the same publication is ungridded, the colouring is inconsistent, it has a more illustrative style and layout of the spread which is not completely legible. Although it is very visually interesting, it gives off the impression that it is unprofessional and in a certain way incomprehensible.
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Van Toorn’s cover and spread for the Drukkersweekblad en Autolijn is a fine example of the pushback against modernism as it does not follow any of the guidelines laid out from the modernist school; this makes it radically interesting but not very legible; rather moderately confusing. On the position of objectivity what van Toorn had to say on the matter was: “Wim says that he uses a particular graphic means as a neutral thing, but in my view, it is always used subjectively. It’s used, after all, has a social meaning. It has a social goal and that is why it is subject. It is there that your influence lies, be it your personal influence or your influence as a group. It all depends on how you use your means”. “To convey content does not mean that the design itself does not represent particular values. Any design is a certain contact, and emotional value. It has specific features. It has a clear goal. You have to convey something to somebody. Perhaps like local conviction, The Report on the Meeting. Any design is addressed to someone. The double duty of the messenger, the designer, is to convey the content without interfering with it. On the other hand, there is the designer’s inescapable input and subjectivity. You cannot deny this dialectic, and you should rather see it as an advantage”. “You do not want to inflict harm on to either the content or the identity (of the message), which is why you always design in the same way-this, at least, is what I think your work will show over a longer period. By giving the same design response in all situations, you produce work of great uniformity, in which any sense of identity is lost.”
Picture 2: Jan van Toorn’s cover and spread (Christmas issue of Drukkersweekblad en Autolijn, 1968)
Van Toorn says that designers say that their work has social meaning and that designers must approach their briefs subjectively at the cost of possibly inflicting harm on the content of the message. This is a common theme found throughout many of the postmodernist designers and, unfortunately, it can be argued that this may be the reason why many designers have deluded themselves into thinking that, design’s power of influence is greater than actually is. Crouwel’s response to Van Toorn’s statements was to say:
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“This is something I keep telling my students. I say to them, “Above all, make sure you know what you are doing. If this is incompatible with what you aspire to do, get out of it today and rather embark on a study such as political science or philosophy or psychology; or go into politics, because from there you have much more influence on people and you may achieve whatever you aspire faster than through our vocation.”. After all, our cloud is incredibly limited. Politicians in Parliament can respond directly to our society and introduce bills that are government may subsequently implement. We do not find ourselves on that site. I’m not a politician, and I also make a conscious decision to stay away from that world. I love my profession, and I try to make a contribution from there.” Crouwel’s sobering words reminds us that designers should not be activists but focus their energies on producing good work for their job. This is because designers will not force change through making logos and subversive advertisement. What did the pushback against modernism achieve? The achievement was in realising the possibilities of visual communications and showing a raw emotional element for embracing the randomness of artistic method. As well, the pushback allowed for a new exploration in typography producing experimental works such as grunge typography and grunge visual aesthetic. The pushback allowed for a rebirth of antiart.
This is characterised with being amateur and with a non-formal technique which allows for many new talents to enter the graphic design world and influence it later. Unfortunately, the pushback established a problematic president in design theory where the once important focus on the message became side-lined in favour of the medium and social concepts. This happened in graphic design theory where the fundamentals of conveying the message clearly took a back seat as medium and its style became more important than the message. This caused for a sharp decline in legibility within visual and typographic communication. The greatest ramification of the pushback against modernism was the establishment of subjectivity over objectivity in the field of graphic design. Pedestaling subjectivity over objectivity meant that designers became fully immersed within social issues. This is fundamentally dangerous for designers as designers must think more about where they work than how they work, which pushes designers to be activists rather than good communicators. Forcing subjectivity into rough design has also affected the education of the vocation as more graphic designers are getting trained to overthink the morality of what they are doing rather than focusing on good craft, which is a problem in its own making.
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Paradoxically, Janthe van Toorn feels that design should explicitly project critique social meaning within their designs act subjectively as an intermediary and engage the viewer with personal concerns of designer.
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pushback against modernism in the mid-1960s when were educated in where the modernist principles of beauty, clarity and objecwere its hegemony. Many of young deeducated in the Modernist School began to push away from modernist principles due modernism’s perceived rigidity changing cultural times late 60s early 70s as well as the development new technology such as the Macintosh computers, which opened new avenues for exploratory design. earliest of the ernist designers was Wolfgang who was like many other young designers of period thinking that, typography be used more subjectively rather than objectively order push their own personal thoughts into their design. Moreover, Weingart was extensive in his experimentation with typography which would then lead to new interesting forms of typographic designs, although the most part illegible. Weingart an active teacher in his new ideas, stressing should break all the rules of their craft in experimentation to create new design methods well as insisting that students think about how their work affects society and the world around them feel that to be social, political or ecological. Weingart’s ideas of social responsibility subjectivity within graphic design spread rapidly across Europe and and became aAmerica staple for many in the 70s and 80s onwards. The engineers of post-modern thinking began to develop in areas such as music with punk rock, which insisted upon kitch Dada-esque designs with politically charged messaging for their zines, album covers and merchandise.
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By Džordžas Dunlop