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Friday April 19, 2019 vol. CXLIII no. 48
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Q&A with Janina Kugel, Chief Human Resources Officer of Siemens AG By Shira Moolten
Assistant Prospect Editor
Janina Kugel has been the Chief Human Resources Officer of Siemens AG, a German multinational tech company, since February 2015. In her position, she has global responsibility for human resources – which includes diversity and health management and safety, among other areas. On Tuesday, April 16, she spoke at the University in a talk titled “Shaping the future of work together!” Below is a lightly edited and condensed interview with Kugel conducted by the ‘Prince.’ The Daily Princetonian: How did you get to where you are now? Is this where you thought you’d end up? Janina Kugel: I did not have the idea to become a CHRO or anything. I didn’t even know back then that I wanted to do HR, but I was always open and curious to take opportunities. I did not only have a Plan A — I usually had a Plan A, B or C in my mind — so I liked to always be f lexible. What I love doing is strategic work, operational work, working in different countries — I think that is a variety of experiences that I’m into. But I don’t think you can plan careers so much ahead of time. DP: Do you feel like things kind of fell into place for you? JK: I think sometimes, with doing certain things or not doing certain things, you know that you can ac-
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Kugel discusses increasing diversity and pursuing opportunities in relation to her leadership within a multinational tech company.
tually make it happen [and] that things then will follow. For example, if I hadn’t been taking an operational role, I knew that I would never be able to take general responsibility for everything. So sometimes I think you can take conscious decisions of opening up opportunities, and sometimes I think, if you make other decisions, you are closing opportunities. And I think that’s what you need to consider. DP: What’s your favorite aspect of your career, or about human resources in general? JK: I took that choice of going into human resources like eight or nine years back into my professional career, so it took me some
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time. What I like is actually the human aspect: the most challenging thing that one can have in a career, and also the most frustrating aspect. But it’s just like an interest, like what can you actually do to really drive an organization built on people? That’s why I chose HR. DP: On a personal level, what are the most challenging aspects of your work? JK: That depends, because I think today I would tell you that the most challenging aspects are totally different things than what I [would]’ve been telling you 10 years ago. Just because there is, of course, always a question of how often have you done the same thing, how often have you made very similar de-
cisions. I think the biggest challenges on one hand are always — well, very clearly, hiring people is much nicer than needing to lay off people. That’s very clear. But, I think, continuous learning, like how to move people to that change of mindset that they have to continue to learn, and also how to change the leadership culture. DP: What concrete steps do you think companies could be taking that they aren’t, perhaps, to increase diversity? JK: You have to put in a clear strategy, you have to put structure to processes, because it will not happen if you are not really structuring a process. For example,
structuring a process is like having recruiting interviews done by diverse panels, or by diverse interviewers, because then you will get totally different results. And then also having a very clear strategy and vision behind it, and also measuring results. DP: Do you think there is more we could be doing as a society to encourage people from a younger age to enter certain fields or careers that they are not? JK: When I was 18, I didn’t exactly know what I wanted to do, and I didn’t know what it would feel like to go into certain jobs when I was graduating. I think what helps is when you have role models telling you what it feels like to have their jobs. I think today with social media, having, like, “A day in the life of a _____,” you can actually realize what does a day look like, which wasn’t possible 20 years ago. And I think sharing not only the skills that you need to have, but also what’s the surrounding of the job, and I think that actually gives you a pretty good orientation. DP: You talked a bit about this need to “switch off” in your personal life, and with the future of work there is less and less of a distinction between what is work and what is home. Do you see that as a challenge, and how can we still give people the opportunity to come home from work? JK: There are some people See Q&A page 2
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“Eco-pirate” Paul Watson discusses environmental activism, marine life staff writer and Contributor
Speaking to a full house, “eco-pirate” Paul Watson, the founder of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and cofounder of Greenpeace, asserted that predictions made about the environments of fish and other marine life were correct and the world is on the brink of environmental collapse. In his talk at the University on Thursday, Watson focused on his past excursions in chasing poachers and hunters. He described boat chases and conflicts with governments and other activist agencies like Greenpeace. Watson said that Sea Shepherd was among the most effective groups in recent years, working with Interpol as well as the governments of Mexico, South Africa, and Namibia to directly combat illegal hunting and poaching across the world’s oceans. According to Watson, Sea Shepherd is a multinational, privately funded volunteer movement dedicated to preserving the world’s oceans and promoting a biocentric worldview, rather than an anthropocentric one. It advocates
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for placing the planet and biosphere ahead of human interests as “humans have existed for a fraction of a second on the timescale of this planet’s history.” Furthermore, the organization operates a small navy of various ships, mostly ex-Coast Guard and private yacht vessels with which it pursues illegal fishing vessels. Watson rebutted claims that his efforts were a form of ecoterrorism by saying that his endeavors have been nonviolent. “The Sea Shepherds have never injured another human being, nor been injured on duty,” he said. This track record, he argues, proves that the Sea Shepherds are a peaceful group, despite their Jolly Roger, a common symbol of pirates. In recent years, the Sea Shepherds have removed hundreds of kilometers of illegal netting, produced video evidence of poaching around the world, and protected thousands of animals from being captured by fishermen, according to Watson. While direct numbers are hard to find, in the Southern Ocean around Antarctica, Watson estimates that 6500 whales See WHALES page 2
Editorial assistant Madeleine Marr discusses the electric scooter renting on campus, and columnist Gabe Lipkowitz pays homage to Notre Dame through a celebration of Princeton’s architecture. PAGE 4
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Over 200 students and activists attended the conference last weekend.
Sixth annual SPEAR conference discusses violence, decarceration By Silma Berrada staff writer
On April 12 and 13, over 200 people joined the Students for Prison Education and Reform (SPEAR) for their sixth annual conference, entitled “Tracing the Violence.” According to the event program, the conference was centered around understanding the origins of violence and recognizing “that policies and prisons are themselves sources of violence.” The conference this year as-
sessed “how and why a massive segment of the incarcerated population is left out of the movement of reform — and sometimes even further vilified by reformers.” Conference attendees explored what violent crime is, how people “(mis)understand” it, and the consequences of reforms that are “only for non-violent offenders.” SPEAR Co-President Masha Miura ’21 said the goal of the conference was to “build a network of student groups across the country who are doing similar abolitionist work so
Today on Campus 7:30 p.m.: Princeton University Glee Club presents their annual Walter L. Nollner memorial concert, featuring J.S. Bach’s St. John Passion. Richardson Auditorium, Alexander Hall
that we can act in solidarity to one another.” The conference hosted two interactive workshop sessions for students interested in how to organize on their campus. “The conference was really special because it brought together incredible organizers, academics, and students to share truly radical and inspiring ideas about abolition, transformative justice, and rethinking violence into a setting where those perspectives are rarely See SPEAR page 2
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