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FROM THE EDITOR This month we made the decision to adopt a pet from the Animal Anti Cruelty League. As anyone who brings home a new pet (especially a young one) will tell you, it is a combination of both excitement and stress. It means having to be super vigilant that no harm comes to the little one, and also that they don’t eat or break everything. It means no lazy mornings, and often a few midnight checkup sessions. At first, it is stressful but after just a few days you get used to your new pet, and they get used to their new environment. From then on out, it is plain sailing and lots of fun. Little animals are just very cute and can be a source of immense joy and entertainment! It is also rewarding to be offered such trust by another living creature. They look to you (with big eyes) for warmth, food and comfort and you are more than willing to give it. If you have the means to do so, I recommend adding a little puppy or kitten to your life (bearing in mind the time and costs involved). This month, we look at something else in its infancy, a discussion about a Bill that may one day become an Act, which combines debt review with administration. We delve deep into the discussion paper (which is a whopping 400 pages) and look at the highlights. It is a longer article but it is well worth knowing what is being discussed, as it has the potential to make or break the entire debt review process in the future.
We also catch up on news, find out the latest about the Debt Review Awards, have links to free downloads and interview an experienced Debt Counsellor about how his clients are coping with the lockdown. We are sure you will enjoy and be informed by all these articles. It is vital to be well informed when it comes to debt review. It also has to be acknowledged that while dealing with debt is stressful, entering debt review (to deal with that debt) is also stressful. Anything new can be like that. At first, you worry about the smallest things (rightly so), because everything is so unfamiliar to you, you end up worrying if the process is working and how things are going. It may result in a few late nights or extra work to make changes and track progress. Then, once you grow familiar with the process, learn to trust your Debt Counsellor and look to them for support and advice, you naturally begin to feel more relaxed. Having made the necessary big changes to reduce expenses, things become easier. You can even let go of your stress about your debt situation and just focus on having some fun and living your life while on your journey to become debt free.
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CONTENTS THE DEBT REARRANGEMENT BILL
DEBT REVIEW AN ATTORNEY’S PERSPECTIVE
DEBT COUNSELLOR INTERVIEW
COURT MATTERS: SECTION 129 FINAL DEMAND
SERVICE DIRECTORY
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DEBT REVIEW AN ATTORNEY’S PERSPECTIVE
DEBT REVIEW AN ATTORNEY’S PERSPECTIVE
INTRODUCTION It comes as no surprise that in our current economic climate, more and more people are facing challenges with meeting their monthly debt obligations. Debt review was introduced by the National Credit Act to provide relief and assistance to those suffering the consequences of being over-indebted. The debt review process is a legal one, and legal practitioners, as officers of the court, have the responsibility to ensure that the legal process is correctly followed whilst protecting the interests of Debt Counsellors, consumers, and credit providers alike. However, the reality of the court system often poses challenges when it comes to finalising applications and obtaining granted debt restructuring orders.
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DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AT DIFFERENT COURTS In Gauteng alone, there are approximately 35 district courts where debt review applications are heard. Lack of uniformity across the courts is a significant obstacle that attorneys face when it comes to presiding officers interpreting the Act and relevant case law when hearing debt review applications. This inconsistency places attorneys, as well as Debt Counsellors, under an unnecessary administrative burden as potential court queries need to be anticipated according to each court’s specific prerequisites and solved before the court appearance. For example, magistrates often require updated documentation such as payslips and proof of residence (the age of such documentation varies from court to court), information regarding spousal contribution to the household, justification for items listed in the Debt Counsellor’s revised budget, justification for allowing consumers to keep certain assets such as motor vehicles, and even specific averments to be addressed in the debt counsellor’s founding affidavit.
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CHANGES & DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS Debt review has an extremely complex relationship with the courts because the National Credit Act is still relatively new, and interpretation of the process is ever-changing. In the past, consumers and Debt Counsellors were sometimes requested to appear personally in certain courts to give evidence. This was not only inconvenient but also unnecessary. Fortunately, declaratory orders have been sought in the High Court to give more guidance and uniformity to the process, and this practice has for the most part been phased out in most courts, albeit not all. Although declaratory orders have been of great assistance to those practising in the debt review sphere of law, the directives given therein are often subject to different interpretations between the courts and this results in the lack of standardisation of the process across the board remaining a problem.
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CHALLENGES Amongst others, additional common problems include attorneys not receiving necessary documentation on time - this could be due to a number of reasons, but results in documentation not being filed within the specified time periods as required by the court rules. It also happens that even if documentation is received in time, unfortunately, due to the courts often being understaffed, files are frequently misplaced, and original documents are lost, resulting in unnecessary postponements. In addition, court dates are often only available months in advance due to the court rolls being too full to accommodate the applications sooner, whereas in the past a great deal more applications could be placed on the roll. This leads to documentation again becoming outdated by the time the next court date arrives, resulting in endless postponements and wasted costs.
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SORRY, NOT TODAY Furthermore, it is becoming more and more prevalent that matters do not appear on the court roll on the specified appearance date due to court files getting lost, which causes frustration and time wasted due to having to look for the files at court. Nowadays, many courts impose a limit on how many applications may be placed on the roll per firm, per day, to alleviate the burden of the roll on the courts that are often overextended. This adds further pressure on attorneys and debt counsellors to ensure that the debt review applications conform to each court’s requirements to guarantee that restructuring orders are granted at the first court appearance so as not to clog the court rolls even further. The situation is further exasperated if one or more of the credit providers decide to oppose an application for whatever reason, because the matter will have to be postponed for settlement negotiations if the matter cannot be settled before the first court appearance (although it often happens that matters are settled the day before, or on the morning of the court appearance at the latest).
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CONSUMERS CAN DO THEIR PART With the threat of postponements and extra costs in mind, it is vital to always provide your Debt Counsellor with all requested documentation as soon as possible. This may mean that you are asked to depose a number of affidavits and give a great deal of extra information to your Debt Counsellor than you expected. Even though this may be extremely inconvenient and time consuming, your Debt Counsellor is acting in your best interests and this information will be needed to answer queries raised by the court. If these documents are filed in time, unnecessary postponements and costs will be prevented, resulting in your matter being finalised sooner. It is also very important to read through all affidavits and documentation sent to you that you are required to sign. A reputable Debt Counsellor will ensure that you understand the process and will make sure you have peace of mind, so definitely do your research before choosing a Debt Counsellor to assist you.
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DON’T GIVE UP Court orders restructuring consumer’s debts are vital to the success of debt review. Consumers desperately need these court orders for peace of mind and to legally adjust their obligations. With all these ongoing challenges and the differences found at all the various courts across the country, how can attorneys and Debt Counsellors get debt review applications granted? Patience is key in debt review, so persevere, bearing in mind that the process is designed to result in a workable solution... if you don’t give up!
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DEBT REVIEW AWARDS 2021
Plans are progressing well for the annual Debt Review Awards. A lot of behind the scenes work has been underway with regard to both the Awards event and the ongoing industry peer reviews.
Peer Reviews Over the last few months peer reviews have been happening and the organizers want to thank all those how have been able to make time to participate in the two previous rounds of reviews. The reviews now enter a new even more detailed stage as credit providers and Debt Counsellors will be asked to review very specific functions being performed by their counterparts in the industry. Soon, associations and PDAs will be sharing additional links to any Debt Counsellors and credit providers who have not yet had a chance to participate (this can happen since the NCR database is used for contact info and details may change or the details given there may be more generic inboxes). If you have not yet had a chance to participate and would like to be proactive then please feel free to mail:
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10 September 2021 Everyone will be able to tune in on social media and streaming platforms like Youtube to enjoy the live stream and find out who has received the highest ratings in the various categories this year. The event will stream from mid morning (the build up events) and the Award announcements will be made in the afternoon (after 2pm but before 5pm). Why not plan now to watch the event on Friday 10th September as an office either remotely or in a Covid cautious office set up?
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PLANS TO COMBINE DEBT REVIEW & ADMINISTRATION At present, the SA Land Reform Commission are discussing how the Magistrates Court Act administration process and National Credit Act debt counselling process could be lumped together into one. They are also looking at short term changes to the Magistrates Court Act to enhance administration in the meantime. The proposed Debt Rearrangement Bill would dramatically alter the way debt review is done and reduce access to clients.
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AMENDING THE NCA AGAIN The National Credit Act has been amended several times over the years. In many cases major industry issues have not been addressed in these amendments, but instead, new processes, registrants and procedures have been added. For example, in the last amendment the new debt intervention process (a type of debt review done by the NCR) was introduced. These amendments also make it possible for courts to adjust credit provider’s interest rates without their approval. Though signed into law, these amendments have not come into effect yet. Now the National Credit Act may be amended, one day in the not too distant future, by a new Act called the Debt Rearrangement Act.
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WHY? It is well known that Administration (or “Admin” as it is called) has a poor reputation for consumer exploitation. Many consumers under admin over-pay on their debts for years, either due to greed by practitioners or administrators incompetence in monitoring payments vs. obligations. The process is also well known to be limited to very small debt amounts (less than R50 000) and ends up costing credit providers and consumers a lot in fees. It is an old and antiquated process, but a much better option, debt review, now exists. It is, however, still a part of the law and there are many practitioners who earn a living from it. This is why the SA Land Reform Commission has been consulting with the National Credit Regulator (NCR) and major credit providers, looking at how the Admin process can possibly be rescued.
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DISCUSSION PAPERS At present the process of introducing a new Act is still in its infancy. Discussion papers have been distributed to a few parties who are commenting about the suggestions made for the Debt Rearrangement Bill. At first these changes really centered around changing Admin and not on debt review so much. This is clearly evident by the problematic statements and misconceptions made in the discussion paper. The discussion paper also refers to matters discussed in the recent, but not yet in force, NCA amendment (like debt intervention) but does not take into account other aspects of that amendment (like courts being able to change interest rates willy nilly without credit provider consent. Don’t be surprised if you have not been asked to comment. Debt Counsellors were invited to join these discussions quite late, and will now have to undo many of the misconceptions about debt review mentioned in the discussion paper. There is a wish list of the NCR’s favorite gripes about problem Debt Counsellors included in the discussion paper.
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HIGHLIGHTS The discussion paper and the proposed bill is a 400 page document, so we will stick to the highlights (or perhaps the lowlights) which will impact on how debt review is currently run. The discussion paper says that presently, consumers with smaller debts do not have access to debt review, so it’s not a good idea to simply scrap admin entirely. The discussion paper says that current legislation about administration (in the Magistrates Court Act) will be replaced and later repealed. This will be done twice: first, short term, to increase the amount that could be included in admin to R300 000, then again later to lump together properly with debt review.
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NCR HIGHLIGHTS The plan is for the NCR to take authority over Administrators. This will be accomplished by simply rebranding all current Administrators (who apply and qualify) as Debt Counsellors. This is because (many feel) Debt Counsellors have a better reputation than Administrators. So, hundreds (or thousands) of new “Debt Counsellors” will compete with the existing ones for clients. All Debt Counsellors are registered with and regulated by the NCR.
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PREVENTING PEOPLE WHO RECENTLY GOT CREDIT FROM GETTING HELP If a credit provider recently (perhaps recklessly) gave the consumer credit, the discussion paper suggests refusing the consumer an admin order. This is probably motivated by credit providers who have poor controls over evaluating credit granting. It also could help them avoid detection of reckless lending. If however Administrators become Debt Counsellors, they will (if current pending amendments come into effect ever) have to investigate every account for reckless credit. So, it seems a waste of time.
DEBT REVIEW LESSON #2
If you leave debt review before settling all your debts then you will have to go back to paying off your debts at the old installment amount, at the old interest rate and with all the old monthly fees. Credit providers may also ask you to suddenly catch up payments for the months that you were in debt review and paying less. Download this booklet to find out more about leaving debt review. DOWNLOAD BOOKLET
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2009 TASK TEAM AGREEMENTS The discussion paper acknowledges that the 2009 NCR Task Team Agreements were not signed by many credit providers and Debt Counsellors, and are therefore not enforceable (much to the disappointment of those involved at the time). It does say, however, that the DTI Minister should be given power to make these mandatory. This means that these 12 year old suggestions become defacto new regulations for debt review without the Minister having to go via the normal legislative process. Not abiding by those old task team rules could get debt counsellors deregistered. No mention is made to the glaring issues with those very old task team “rules”.
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MANDATORY CODES OF CONDUCT In the past, an attempt was made to (it was said) circumvent the requirements of the NCA, and to add all sorts of requirements to those working in the industry via an industry code of conduct. Though the NCR were happy to produce and enforce such a code, many in the industry were opposed to this ‘work around’, which ignored the NCA and created alternative rules beyond those in the Act. The fear was that such rules (created by a code of conduct) could be frequently changed, at the whim of the NCR. A code of conduct, of course, is not without merit, as it can help reduce the incidence of abuses by practitioners (which Administrators sadly have a reputation for). Many established industries have such codes of conduct. These are traditionally high level documents which avoid dictating the day-to-day of the industry. Whether the NCR would consult with the industry in a meaningful way about such a code, or would simply use it to create new rules for Debt Counselling, is an issue that needs to be addressed to prevent industry push back.
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LESS POSSIBLE CLIENTS FOR DEBT COUNSELLORS In an effort to ensure consumers have easy access to Administrators (something that has been an issue in the past) the discussion paper proposes that consumers are only able to seek help from Administrators and Debt Counsellors who are within 50Km of their home or work. It acknowledges that this will probably be an issue for those living in remote areas. It also mentions that currently, Debt Counsellors help consumers from all over, in an effort to remain profitable. It does not mention or discuss how many DC’s are now operating remotely, due to the pandemic, to actively avoid in-person contact.
It suggests that Debt Counsellors (including former administrators) simply open up multiple offices all over, if they want to reach more people. Which, of course, will mean more fees to the NCR for registration of offices. It also raises questions about who will work at these offices, and how a Debt Counsellor can be in multiple places at one time. This is something the NCR worry about, because at present (unlike PDAs, credit bureaus or credit providers) Debt Counsellors do not register as a company but rather as an individual. It is likely that this requirement will see the death of the small town Debt Counsellor, and will prevent people in remote areas from getting assistance.
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RECKLESS LENDING FEES The NCR recently introduced a ridiculously small fee to supposedly incentivize Debt Counsellors to investigate reckless lending. When one or two large Debt Counselling firms began charging all their clients this new fee, and went to the press bragging about it, the NCR received complaints from credit providers to pull this fee. Credit providers are scared of these investigations and would like to avoid them. The NCR then tried to pull these fees, and asked Debt Counsellors not to charge people to investigate reckless credit.
As with everything else surrounding fees, this has been something of a disaster and caused a lot of debate. Currently there are no regulated fees for debt review despite many amendments to the Act and regulations. In something of a compromise, the new proposal regarding these fees is to only charge them, if the court finds that the matter is actually reckless. This effectively removes any incentive to possibly pursue reckless lending investigations (so a victory for the credit providers)*. These tiny incentive fees are pretty meaningless anyway, given that a court matter investigating reckless lending could cost consumers up to R40 000 in legal fees. *It is worth noting, however, that the 2009 task team report/guidelines require every single account to be investigated for reckless lending (as does the most recent pending amendments to the NCA).
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DTI TO EXPLAIN DEBT REVIEW TO CONSUMERS Consumers often do not fully understand the debt review process. It is one of the reasons why Debtfree Magazine has provided Debt Counsellors with a free booklet to share with new consumers explaining each step of the process in detail. This can help supplement counselling sessions with the Debt Counsellor. Feel free to ask your Debt Counsellor (or PDA) for a copy. One of the proposals in the discussion papers is that the DTI issue a standard letter to consumers (in their own language) explaining the entire debt review process.
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MEET AND CONDUCT THE PROPOSAL STAGE IN PERSON It is amusing that in the midst of a global pandemic, where a virus is transferred by time spent in person with one another, any new legal bill may try enforce such meetings. While the proposed bill and discussion paper does make provision for parties to log in via video conferencing (certainly what everyone would do) it is just a good laugh. Think of all the wasted time of such an archaic process, which is doomed to failure from the beginning. Imagine… thousands of daily meetings between bank representatives and Debt Counsellors, all over the country happening simultaneously. Hundreds of different matters been dealt with in ridiculously repetitive, and possibly hour-long chat sessions in person or over video conferencing. This is one of the biggest changes proposed for the current debt review process. The idea in question is that the discussion over which
credit provider gets what, and who agrees is done a group session rather than via email and software. The proposal is that this take place with the Debt Counsellor presiding over the hearing (charging a fee) and it would be done to try ease pressure off the courts. If all parties agree, then they sign and the matter is final. If someone disagrees then the matter goes to court as normal. It also sets out that the big credit providers’ rights would outweigh the small credit providers, allowing room for Bond providers to get preferential treatment. This is something of an echo of the naïve view held by past NCA legislators who thought voluntary debt review would be “a thing” and credit providers would agree without having to be forced by the courts. They were wrong back in 2007, and it is doubtful this will work to any significant degree in the future. Never mind the constitutional challenges, or one credit providers’ property rights outweighing another. There also seems to be a lack of understanding that if one party does not agree to a particular payment amount, it puts the entire calculation out of whack. It is an “old school” pipe dream. There is a lack of knowledge that, at present, this can all be done with the push of a button on systems like DCRS (which is a virtual version of this using calculation software) and happens nearly instantaneously. Obviously, this was designed with little or no realistic knowledge of the current process, and if this became ‘the norm’, then fees and timelines would need to skyrocket to cover the increased time factor. It does seem similar to the current push to mediate over problems outside of the court process. This is perhaps easier for Government than having more efficient courts with more staff etc.
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CONSUMERS & DC INTERROGATED AT COURT In the past many courts asked consumers and Debt Counsellors to appear in person, rather than have their legal representatives appear on their behalf. This has slowly declined at most courts. The proposed changes bring this back into play, with unhappy credit providers being offered the chance to cross examine (interrogate) consumers directly about any matter involved in their debt review. After this decade long issue was finally sorted out, there seems to be a return to taking consumers out of work, and making them go to wait at a court to testify (rather than submitting an affidavit). This will once again create excess pressure on already vulnerable consumers, and threaten their job security. This alone will definitely discourage many from seeking help. It also prevents the Debt Counsellor from being in the office, helping other consumers. More costs, more wasted time, less consumers getting help, less help available for consumers. What a disaster!
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EAOS - GARNISHING SALARIES TO PAY FOR DEBT Having debt review repayments being done via an EAO (commonly referred to as a garnishee order) will make many consumers happy. While this may ensure payments, it also ensures employers will be made aware of the consumer’s poor financial position, revealing the extent of their financial strain. This will also deter high-end clients from applying, once again preventing consumers getting help over privacy concerns.
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EXCLUDING ASSETS The potential Bill makes room for courts to exclude certain ‘secured’ debts, i.e. debts like bonds and cars. This is a common practice in places like the UK where bonds are left out of such reviews. In these places, consumers have to pay their usual full installment on such big debts. This ensures that those who cannot afford to do so will lose their assets. This is something the NCA has protected SA consumers from up to this point. This proposal makes it possible (combined with other provisions) for bond providers to object to any proposal and then go to court to have their debt removed from the debt review. We can anticipate these greedy credit providers trying to sell off people’s assets, as well as additional court cases to try defend those matters (which will cost money and places strain on the court system). This should be seen as a massive win for credit providers who want to sell off people’s assets.
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6 MONTHS BREATHING ROOM When the NCA first came into effect, it basically had a 2 month (60 day) “breathing room” type process in place. This received so much push back from credit providers that no one in debt review skips payments at any stage now. Payments are now made from month 1. This also helps ensure consumers actually pay for the process and take it seriously, cutting down on possible abuses. Despite the current option to delay payments being built into the NCA, it almost never happens. Credit providers want money and they want it as soon as possible. The discussion paper looks at a 6-month delay in payments (breathing room) for some entering the process. While this sounds great, it actually creates challenges like: will the Debt Counsellor get paid for work they do? Could credit providers be exposed to abuses of consumers trying to take advantage of such breaks unwarranted? We hope not, but the possibility needs to be discussed.
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SELLING OFF ASSETS In the sequestration process, consumers assets are sold off to recuperate the credit providers money. The document suggests that Debt Counsellors also now be allowed, by the courts (if the matter goes to court and is not decided in a consultation session) to sell off a consumers assets, even if the consumer doesn’t agree. You can see the logic behind such a suggestion. There is little reason for a consumer to hang on to luxury items, when they have massive debts, it will assist them get out of debt sooner. This is, of course, not what consumers will hear. Being ordered to sell something you love, is just another reason for consumers to totally avoid entering debt review. Once the media hears about this (if it ever gets included), it will just be another nail in the coffin of the debt review process.
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BEING DECLARED ‘NO LONGER OVER INDEBTED’ The National Credit Act currently allows people to be declared over-indebted, but does not expressly have a way for consumers to leave the process before paying off all their debts. Despite multiple amendments, this has not been added to the Act. The discussion document now makes room for this to be done at Magistrates Court. It may however only apply to consumers who have a better financial situation and can easily revert to the old high interest rates and high monthly fees on their debts, enabling them to take on even more credit again.
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COURTS CHANGING INTEREST RATES Like the current pending amendments, this bill proposes giving courts the ability to change credit provider’s interest rates on unsecured debts. Secured assets avoid this provision, but the bill does not acknowledge that a current (already passed and signed) amendment makes provision for changing interest rates already (including on secured assets… which may be why the President has never said when the amendments will come into effect??).
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COULD THIS BE THE END OF DEBT REVIEW? It is clear to see the countless problems that such changes would cause. It is also evident that initially, not many Debt Counsellors were consulted in the process. Efforts to cover over issues in one process (Admin) will create massive new problems in the other process (debt review). For example, if consumers do not pay, for months at a time, it will frustrate credit providers. Allowing the big credit providers to dictate how much other creditors get, or decide if they want to take part, will undoubtedly create a wave of poor conduct by the big banks, who will promptly use the opportunity to side step the process. Requiring credit providers to have staff compliments, capable of
attending hundreds of simultaneous in- person or video conferences to discuss proposals, is almost impossible. Think of the logistics and costs. Telling consumers they have to sell off assets, inform their boss they are in debt review, take leave on multiple occasions to go to court, and can only get help from a Debt Counsellor nearby, even if better practitioners are elsewhere, is a bad idea. Then not including their biggest assets in the process, and exposing them to the sale of those assets, defeats the whole point of debt review. Fortunately, the entire Debt Rearrangement Bill is still in the discussion phase, and no doubt, during consultation with the industry and the public, someone will point out these problems. If anyone listens, is another story.
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first debt counsellors). It quickly piqued my interest, so I started to explore this new industry, which I found very fulfilling. What makes your business a success? I believe in being hands-on. As we are a smaller “boutique” type debt counselling firm, we are able to offer our clients personalised attention, I feel this is critical for success. Where do you find new business? We do marketing campaigns to inform potential clients of the benefits of debt counselling. Since we have been in the industry for so many years now, we also get a lot of word-of-mouth business, from previous clients as well as from our current clients. What challenge are you seeing coming from the credit provider side at the moment? Since the lockdown began in 2020, we have seen a big delay in turnaround times from most of the creditors, as quite a lot of them have had to work from home. This created quite a challenge, as communication is often delayed or even missed completely. What is the biggest challenge facing Debt Counsellors at the moment? I feel the challenge the Debt Counsellors are (STILL) facing is clients being misinformed. Misinformation about the whole process. There are many consumers that still don’t really know what the correct process entails, and that means that they unfortunately, cannot make an informed decision when it comes to debt counselling.
DEBT COUNSELLOR PROFILE There are a small number of Debt Counsellors who are still not following the correct procedure, resulting in reputational harm to the whole industry. It causes potential clients to form a negative view of debt counselling, which is a great process that can really help debt stressed consumers. What is the biggest challenge facing your clients at the moment? A lot of my clients were negatively affected by COVID-19 last year, and these issues have spilled over into 2021. Currently many of my clients are having to deal with further income reductions. Many self-employed clients suffered a complete loss of income during the initial stages of lockdown. This means that these already over-indebted clients, suddenly had the impossible challenge of trying to keep up with their previous court ordered debt review instalments. Many fell into arrears with their debt review obligations, and due to the ongoing economic problems this has made it nearly impossible for them to catch up. So, what advice do you give consumers experiencing debt stress due to the lockdown & Pandemic? Make a plan to speak honestly to your Debt Counsellor regarding your new circumstances. The Debt Counsellor will send out form 17.3’s and suggest revised proposals to credit providers. We, fortunately, have had great success during the lockdown with these types of temporary reduced payment arrangements. Talking honestly and promptly with creditors does help in this regard. Your
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SECTION 129 FINAL DEMAND The Court Case Standard Bank v Siyabonga Willie Matse Case No: 41390/19 High Court of South Africa, Johannesburg
Why it Matters This ruling is significant in terms of serving a Section 129 notice (which happens before legal action commences).
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tracers were unsuccessful in locating the consumer. The Post Office could not deliver a registered letter slip, because the nominated address simply did not exist. The credit provider was, however, able to identify another property (other than the nominated one) which the consumer appeared to own. In addition, some communication had occurred with the consumer by email, and therefore a valid email address could be supplied. The issue facing the credit provider was that the consumer had not nominated service to the other property address or via email. So, now what? At this point Standard Bank went to court and asked for leave for substituted service of the Section 129 letter (to other address or via email).
Relevant Legislation NCA Section 129(5) & NCA Section 65(1) Section 129(5) of the National Credit Amendment Act 19 of 2014: ‘‘(5) The notice contemplated in subsection (1)(a) must be delivered to the consumer— (a) by registered mail; or (b) to an adult person at the location designated by the consumer. (6) The consumer must in writing indicate the preferred manner of delivery contemplated in subsection (5).”
COURT MATTERS So, a consumer has the right to give an address that they would like any legal notices to be delivered to and they must receive these notices before a credit provider can start legal action.
But what happens when the consumer gives a nonexistent address? Section 65(1) of the National Credit Act 34 of 2005: “(1) Every document that is required to be delivered to a consumer in terms of this Act must be delivered in the prescribed manner, if any. (2) If no method has been prescribed for the delivery of a particular document to a consumer, the person required to deliver that document must(a) make the document available to the consumer through one or more of the following mechanisms(i) in person at the business premises of the credit provider, or at any other location designated by the consumer but at the consumer’s expense, or by ordinary mail; (ii) by fax; (iii) by email; or (iv) by printable web-page; and”
The Ruling The Judgment went in favour of Standard Bank. In the ruling the Judge said that the consumer had given an address that did not meet the actual purpose of Section 129(5):
1. It would seem to me that in the circumstances, I must, or at least may, regard the chosen address to be fatally defective for the purposes of s129(5) and, instead of purporting to authorize a deviation from the section that does not entail personal service, create the most sensible constructive domicilium for purposes of the section, to the extent that it still applies in the circumstances, and, in the alternative, deem the section simply not to apply and apply a constructive choice on the part of the consumer of the email method specified in s65(2)(iii). As a result the Judge made the decision that the other address (which had not been selected by the client) could be used, in this particular case. Also part of the ruling was that the final demand letter could officially be accepted via a digitally registered delivery system. 2. In these circumstances, I granted leave for a s129(1)(a) notice to be served by doing so both at the Ivory Park property on a person apparently in charge over 16 years of age and by utilizing the specified email address, affording the respondent one month from the performance of the last act within which to respond.
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South African Fraud Prevention Service NPC
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Clearscore 011 867 2234
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Mrs. Cindy Mauritz will be heading up the debt review department and will be supported by Miss Meghan Bruiners and Mrs. Fika Snyders in their capacity as Team Leaders. We have updated our communication and escalation channels in this regard. Please refer to the communication channels listed in tables 1 and 2 below. It is important that documentation be send to the correct communication channels to ensure timeous feedback.
CAPITEC CONTACT DETAILS
Table 1: Debt Review communication channels 1
Channel Form 17’s
2 3
Proposals Court documents
4 5
Terminations General enquiries
6
Refund / Cancellation requests
7
Insurance Certificates
8
Reckless Lending Queries
9
Credit Insurance Claims
10
Payment allocations
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Description All Forms 17’s / Clearance Certificates All Proposals All Court documents (Notice of Motion’s / NCT applications / Orders) Termination queries General Debt Review Enquiries Debt Review Refund Requests and Cancellation of Debit Orders
E-mail address ccsforms17@capitecbank.co.za
Replacement Insurance Policies Allegation of reckless lending and document requests All credit insurance claims Payment Allocations queries
insurancepolicies@capitecbank.co.za
ccsproposals@capitecbank.co.za ccsdebtrevieworders@capitecbank.co.za
debtreviewterminations@capitecbank.co.za ccsdebtreviewqueries@capitecbank.co.za ccsrefundrequests@capitecbank.co.za
Rmcontrol@capitecbank.co.za CreditInsuranceClaims@capitecbank.co.za ccsdebtreviewpaymentqueries@capitecbank.co.za 086 066 7783 Option 2
Turnaround Time
Debt Review DepartmentEmail Address
Contact Details Standard Bank Debt Review Debt Review Call Center:
0861 111 525 or 0861 111 402
Debt Review Documents*:
DRApplications@standardbank.co.za
Debt Review Service requests:
debtreviewservices@standardbank.co.za
5 days
Debt Review payment queries:
DRPayments@standardbank.co.za
7 days
Debt Review administrative requests**:
DebtReviewAdmin@standardbank.co.za
5 days
Debt Review complaints and escalations:
debtreviewcomplaints@standardbank.co.za
5 days
Reckless Lending Allegations
recklesslendingallegations@standardbank.co.za
*Debt Review documents: Form 17.1; Form 17.2; Proposals; Court Applications; Court Orders **Debt Review Admin related requests: debit order cancellations; statement requests ; refunds; paid up letters; account closure instructions; settlement balances; or outstanding balances
Other Standard Bank areas Credit Card
086120 1000
Diners Club
0113588400 / 0860346377
Vehicle Asset Finance Recoveries
0861102347
Vehicle Asset Finance Collections
0861102347
Home Loans Pre Legal
0860102270
Home Loans Customer Service
0860123001
Standard Bank Insurance
0860123911
Deceased Estates
0861001868
DC QUERY PROCESS NEDBANK DRRS Debt Counselling Query Resolution Contact Points and Escalation Options
Fax or Email submissions (Level1) Email: DebtCounsellingQueries@nedbank.co.za Fax: 010 251 0055
Call centre (Level 1: Alternative) Tel: 0860 109 279
To be used as a first point of contact for all telephonic communication
Attended to by Queries Team Leader (Level 2: First Escalation) Dcescalation1@nedbank.co.za
Attended to by Senior Manager (Level 3: Final escalation) Dcescalation2@nedbank.co.za
To be used as a first point of contact for all written communication
To be used only where no resolution is found from first point of contact after 5 business days
To be used only where no resolution is found from the first escalation after 2 Business days
www.nedbank.co.za
17.1, 17.2, Proposals, General correspondence: debtcounselling@africanbank.co.za To register for Legal Web Access: lwac@africanbank.co.za Reckless Lending investigations: RLA@africanbank.co.za
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