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ORACLES — ARTISTS’ CALLING CARDS — PIERRE LEGUILLON, BARBARA FÉDIER Pierre Leguillon, Barbara Fédier (Hg./ eds.) Oracles — Artists’ Calling Cards
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CONTINENTAL DRIFT — TAIYO ONORATO / NICO KREBS Taiyo Onorato / Nico Krebs Continental Drift
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eurAsIA: IN cONversAtION wIth tAIyO ONOrAtO & NIcO Krebs Interview by Aaron Schuman Aaron Schuman (AS): Firstly, how did the project, EURAsIA, begin — what inspired you to go east? Taiyo Onorato (TO): Several years ago we did The Great Unreal, a project which centered on road trips we took through the United States between 2005 and 2009. After that, we stayed closer to home for a while — mostly in Berlin — doing various still-life projects and working around the city. Then, in 2013, we felt like it was time to go on another long trip, but this time to head in the opposite direction. Nico Krebs (NK): We were curious about what it would be like to drive for thousands of kilometers in one direction. We sensed that it would be challenging, and maybe more fulfilling than flying from A to B, and just looking down from above. TO: Our first eastern-bound trip took four months, and the biggest challenge was simply to get all the way to Mongolia. It was all about moving forward, getting the right visas, overcoming problems with the car. And during this time we worked in a “documentary” style — really, we were just wandering around, collecting images, and trying to gain more understanding. In a sense, we’re very lucky in photography today, because we can quote so many things. Depending on how you photograph, and what materials and technologies you use, you can quote other photographers or other photographic genres and cultures — you can make references to “American Landscape,” or “Japanese Street,” or “Contemporary Conceptual.” There are so many photographic keys and languages, and part of the challenge today is to play with those. But Eurasia as a region is very challenging in this regard, because it’s completely opposite to the United States. In the States, there’s so much imagery and iconography to play with, but Eurasia doesn’t really have familiar iconography or an established visual language within our culture. In terms of imagery and references, the East was more like a black hole for us, so we had to take an entirely different approach.
AS: How many trips did you take during this project? TO: In 2013, we took the first trip together, driving from Switzerland to Mongolia. We returned to Mongolia together in 2014, and made two more trips individually. After a few months, you start to feel like you want to stop gathering material and start looking at it— and then go back later and create more. NK: Four months on the road is a long and intense experience, and sometimes it’s good to rest for a little while — wash your clothes, shave, sleep in a proper bed, and so on. AS: There’s an interesting contrast between the past and the present, and maybe the future, in EURAsIA. Many of the photographs seem specifically focused on recently built environments — new buildings, new roads, new infrastructures and monuments, and so on — as well as on older, more traditional objects and structures. Did you feel as though you were, in some sense, traveling through time as well as space? NK: As soon as we left the “West,” so to speak — let’s say, from the east of Vienna onwards — we started to notice that everything was in an extreme state of flux. Many of the former Soviet republics are in a period of rapid transition, and there’s a different pace, as well as an enormous will to go forward. This is especially true in urban environments — with new roads, architecture, and mostly consumer-oriented infrastructures — whereas many of the rural regions remain static, or are even going backwards. The shift becomes surreal, and increasingly difficult to process. In some places you can travel just fifteen minutes and go from seeing shepherds on horseback living in tents to Prada shops and Porsche SVUs. TO: This project is a lot about time. In Mongolia, if you stay on the new roads, it’s similar to a Western experience — the streets and gas stations seem pretty familiar. But as soon as you drive on the back roads, it feels as though for every hundred kilometers you travel, you go back a decade in time. I like to
[ This interview was first published by Fotomuseum Winterthur, Eurasia (Exhibition Catalogue), 2015. ]
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N F To start the conversation we would like to go back to our first meeting. We remember it very well — I think it was one of our first ever exhibition projects. When we first met the gallerist Shinji Nanzuka about six years ago he introduced us to the work of Keiichi Tanaami. The surprising moment for us was when he mentioned your interest in Tanaami’s work — basically that you’re a fan of his! Of course we were already huge fans of your practice and also of your collaboration with Nick Relph. That was such an important influence and reference point for artists of our generation. So then we were curious to call you and ask about your interest in Tanaami. How did you learn about his work and what made him a hero for you? It all started as this bizarre fan-fan-hero-hero relationship … O P I don’t exactly recall when I saw the work for the first time. I suppose I was familiar with things like The Monkees and Jefferson Airplane cover art without really acknowledging that they were by him. I worked at MoWax records with Toby Feltwell for a time. During that period I was being introduced to all sorts of absolutely extraordinary art and music from Japan. So I think it was through looking at Japanese books and magazines and listening to loads of Boredoms that I got into Tanaami. A little later I visited Tokyo for the first time and a friend took me to Nanzuka Underground. There I got to meet Shinji Nanzuka and see some Tanaami work up close and get my hands on books of his that were hard to find back home. Seeing all this work blew my mind and basically I became a mega fan. N F This idea of being a “fan” of very specific sources is something that I think is very characteristic of your practice. Aspects of your work could be described as “Take Care” or almost as worship. This is very unusual. Since you often produce series that deal with specific themes, your work has a documentary approach to it. But it never seems distant to its subject — not the “artist analysing and observing the obscure”, but rather a way of worshipping themes you fully believe in. Perhaps the same could also be said of your series of Japanese Bullet Hell Game collages. O P Yes, I’m really into all the stuff I talk about in my work. Video games are something that I’m particularly drawn to, not simply because I love them and play them all the time, but because they are very useful for providing a framework with which to discuss things like space, freedom, identity, labour, play, history, art … all sorts of things. Bullet hell games [1], a sub-genre of shoot-em up games, are particularly interesting to me because not only are they incredibly beautiful, chaotic and psychedelic, they also represent a very niche area of hardcore arcade gaming and could be considered to be pure video games. Unlike most popular game genres that borrow from cinema and general current pop-culture, bullet hell games are only concerned with themselves and their own, often very complicated, sets of systems and rules. Really, the driving force of these games is “pattern” — the patterns of the waves of bullets, memorizing the patterns of movement through a level, recognizing patterns in the behaviour of the enemy boss. And, of course, patterns can be both very pretty and very complicated. So these original works using pages from books of Greek and Roman sculpture are about trying to make something beautiful because of its complexity whilst still maintaining an inherent logic within the interplay between the bullets and the image on the page [2]. I don’t think I could authentically do this without first really liking bullet hell games.
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N 7 F Keiichi, when you met with Oliver in Tokyo a few years ago you gave him right away forty original drawings to initiate the collaboration. These drawings are defined by black outlines showing very distinct, surreal figures. We wonder what sources and references inspired them? Are they part of your on-going Dream Diary series, that are persistent documents of your dreams? K T Each of the forty drawings is not independent; it could be said that it is the same as the drawings made for my recent paintings, consisting of combinations of more than a hundred individual drawings, i.e., the materials are to be adopted for different themes. Moreover, the drawings made separately for each theme explore different subjects. Thus, I can hardly explain the forty drawings individually. Currently, I am working on the book of my Dream Diary, which I have recorded for over 40 years, but the collaboration work with Oliver does not involve records of my dreams. However, dream and recollection are the most important sources of my creation, thereby not totally irrelevant to this collaboration project. The forty drawings instantly selected by Oliver were actually my favourites as well, so I was very happy about that. N F It is interesting how you describe your painterly procedure: you collect hundreds of motifs, create an archive and later on apply them as collages in your paintings. One could argue that the collage is really a core methodology of yours. I’m also thinking about your early collages from the 1960s, where you gather and re-combine found images from magazines and advertisements. It’s interesting that Oliver and you found a collaboration in the medium of the collage. For both of you it’s very important as a strategy, but you each apply it totally different. Oliver is very specific about a source — in this case the bullet hell game elements — and only works with this “one” vocabulary. With a limited vocabulary he then creates rich varieties. You on the other hand use the collage as a way of taking notes, of collecting either inspiration from given materials, but also as a way of collecting and documenting your fictional dreams. This very different and paradoxical understanding of the collage within your collaboration creates a great tension. To come back to your early collages — did they come from graphic design, or how did you start producing them? K T To this question Keiichi Tanaami answered with the following essay: The Brightly Patterned Kimono and the Scent of Kogiku Hanayagi I was tidying up at a warehouse in Setagaya one chilly day in 2012 during a heavy rain when I came upon a large stack of paper wrapped in old newspaper. I had no memory of these dusty old newspapers. When I peeled them open, there appeared more than 100 brightly coloured collages. I had no idea as to how, when, or for what reason this group of works had been made, and though these were unmistakably works of my own, for a moment I could not even fathom why they would have lain dormant here, abandoned in a dark warehouse. I took them back with me to my work studio and, leaving a hurried manuscript, set to work repairing(1) the dried up flakes of glue and otherwise damaged sections. I carefully scrutinized and verified the stack of collages piled atop my desk, and as I did so distant, blurry memories came back to me, resurrected in vivid colours and stirring up strange emotions. As I looked at several of the photographs glued onto the background of one collage, a range of scenes I had completely forgotten about emerged. There is a photo of a local woman in ethnic attire placing a garland of flowers around the neck of a Japanese soldier stationed in Burma during the war: this was most certainly an artificially manipulated photo used as part of a media strategy to cover up the acts of brutality committed by the Japanese army during their invasion of Asia. I had used dozens of these artificially coloured photographs as collage material. A secret pastime of my youth was to quietly look through the enormous, breathing collection of magazines and picture post-
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Oliver Payne, Cherry Blossom, Edition Patrick Frey, 2017.
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N F Keiichi, when you met with Oliver in Tokyo a few years ago you gave him right away forty original drawings to initiate the collaboration. These drawings are defined by black outlines showing very distinct, surreal figures. We wonder what sources and references inspired them? Are they part of your on-going Dream Diary series, that are persistent documents of your dreams? K T Each of the forty drawings is not independent; it could be said that it is the same as the drawings made for my recent paintings, consisting of combinations of more than a hundred individual drawings, i.e., the materials are to be adopted for different themes. Moreover, the drawings made separately for each theme explore different subjects. Thus, I can hardly explain the forty drawings individually. Currently, I am working on the book of my Dream Diary, which I have recorded for over 40 years, but the collaboration work with Oliver does not involve records of my dreams. However, dream and recollection are the most important sources of my creation, thereby not totally irrelevant to this collaboration project. The forty drawings instantly selected by Oliver were actually my favourites as well, so I was very happy about that. N F It is interesting how you describe your painterly procedure: you collect hundreds of motifs, create an archive and later on apply them as collages in your paintings. One could argue that the collage is really a core methodology of yours. I’m also thinking about your early collages from the 1960s, where you gather and re-combine found images from magazines and advertisements. It’s interesting that Oliver and you found a collaboration in the medium of the collage. For both of you it’s very important as a strategy, but you each apply it totally different. Oliver is very specific about a source — in this case the bullet hell game elements — and only works with this “one” vocabulary. With a limited vocabulary he then creates rich varieties. You on the other hand use the collage as a way of taking notes, of collecting either inspiration from given materials, but also as a way of collecting and documenting your fictional dreams. This very different and paradoxical understanding of the collage within your collaboration creates a great tension. To come back to your early collages — did they come from graphic design, or how did you start producing them? K T To this question Keiichi Tanaami answered with the following essay: The Brightly Patterned Kimono and the Scent of Kogiku Hanayagi I was tidying up at a warehouse in Setagaya one chilly day in 2012 during a heavy rain when I came upon a large stack of paper wrapped in old newspaper. I had no memory of these dusty old newspapers. When I peeled them open, there appeared more than 100 brightly coloured collages. I had no idea as to how, when, or for what reason this group of works had been made, and though these were unmistakably works of my own, for a moment I could not even fathom why they would have lain dormant here, abandoned in a dark warehouse. I took them back with me to my work studio and, leaving a hurried manuscript, set to work repairing the dried up flakes of glue and otherwise damaged sections. I carefully scrutinized and verified the stack of collages piled atop my desk, and as I did so distant, blurry memories came back to me, resurrected in vivid colours and stirring up strange emotions. As I looked at several of the photographs glued onto the background of one collage, a range of scenes I had completely forgotten about emerged. There is a photo of a local woman in ethnic attire placing a garland of flowers around the neck of a Japanese soldier stationed in Burma during the war: this was most certainly an artificially manipulated photo used as part of a media strategy to cover up the acts of brutality committed by the Japanese army during their invasion of Asia. I had used dozens of these artificially coloured photographs as collage material. A secret pastime of my youth was to quietly look through the enormous, breathing collection of magazines and picture post-
The collages contain, for me, a multiplicity of meanings and memories, and today they also seem to present me with a number of questions. The vast amount of printed material left behind by my uncle was one of the catalysts that triggered me to immerse myself in creating such a large number of collages, and then I remembered another: the cut-outs of tropical landscapes and swimsuit photos of foreign women pasted in the college notebooks that my uncle had left behind. These tiny photos, glued on ever so carefully, looked incredible pasted there in the blank margins of pages crammed full of writing. N F Another aspect I’m very curious about how you see “time” as an element in your collaboration. The collages imply a sense of preservation or even archaeology. Of course the antique figures imply the historic, but also the bullet hell game icons speak of passed time, referring back to the 90s, the beginning of video games. You also explained how difficult it was to collect the stickers and that you even had to reproduce some of them. So in a way the process of producing the collages was almost like archaeology. And now seeing the works today they bring the viewer back to this forgotten time of when video games weren’t yet commercialized, but a culture for a small scene. O P Time was a major factor in these works. (And not just the time it took to have the stickers re-made). Specifically, the time I would spend on each one to ensure they looked like genuine moments of game play. I wanted them to look as if they are moments from games frozen in time, like screen grabs of a bullet hell game in progress rather than an arrangement of stickers for composition’s sake. When I put down each bullet sticker, it’s not about where that bullet is now, it’s about knowing where the bullet will be in three seconds time. Also, having a deeply comprehensive understanding of how these games look was essential and required copious hours of playtime. N F The readymade and the “almost untouched found object” could describe many of your works. In your practice you very rarely use craft or production as a tool to create an artwork. At the same time your works have a very strong formal language. How do you decide on the formulation of an artwork? O P This is quite often decided for me, since I tend to work with rulebased systems. So basic parameters and limitations put on a work will sort of tell me “where the pieces go”. That’s certainly the case for the Portal Paintings, Candy Crush Collages and the Weed Container sculptures, for example. And yes, I mainly work with bought and found objects — weed containers, video game consoles, stickers, arcade cabinet parts, pages of old books. And when craft is required in my work, it’s almost always outsourced to persons far more qualified than myself. Also, it’s worth noting that whilst I absolutely love bullet hell games, I am terrible at them.
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In the first lines of The House of the Dead, Dostoyevsky, attempting to convey to the reader in the most faithful manner his carceral experience in Siberia, minutely describes the fortress where he was locked up during four years: its impassable rampart, the towering palisade of wooden stakes held together by laths encircling the yard, the solid and constantly locked gate that separates the space within from the free world, the long barracks where the inmates are divided by category. Today, as was then the case, those who discover the penitentiary universe — prisoners, officers, or simple visitors — feel first and foremost its oppressive infrastructure. Walls, watchtowers, armored doors, heavy grids, the thick bars of grated windows, the concertina wire fences, the nettings installed above the prison yard, the checkpoints controlling passageways, the networks of cameras continuously exploring so-called sensitive areas, and, in the special housing units, the metal furniture fixed to the floor and the walls: prison is a harrowing environment of concrete, steel, acrylic glass, and complex technology. In fact, over the decades, the specter of evasion, the fear of disorders, and the prevention of trafficking have led to uninterrupted additions of security apparatuses, to the gradual opacification of those rare apertures to the outside, and to the obstruction of all circulations — at the risk of producing the very opposite effect to that supposedly sought, the rigor of the institution only increasing the violence of the inmates toward others and themselves. However, the material dimension of the correctional universe is not limited to this daunting infrastructure. A few pages after his description of the house of the dead, Dostoyevsky writes of things “which it would never occur to anyone outside the walls of the prison to buy or sell, or, indeed, to consider as things at all.” Prison is a world of objects, sometimes commonplace, sometimes unusual, that, in the confined and constrained space of the cell, take on an importance and meaning they would not have in an ordinary context. Objects imported on the occasion of spouses, relatives, and friends visiting, sometimes found in parcels thrown over the compound’s enclosure, or even introduced with the help of prison employees. Objects purchased from the prison canteen with accumulated savings, or sold, exchanged, perhaps provided as a gift in the continuous transactions between inmates. Objects crafted from makeshift reclaimed and repurposed materials — objects of which no one would even
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conceive, outside the carceral world, as objects. Among those objects produced from the inventiveness and skill of the prisoners, certain are prohibited for the danger they seem to represent in the eyes of the administration. Upon discovery, they are confiscated and their owners often punished. It is these forbidden objects that Mélanie Veuillet made the subjects of the photographic investigation she conducted in Swiss prisons. These strange accessories whose clandestine existence was suddenly interrupted by the negligence of their owners, an unexpected cell search, or the indiscretion of a companion, would have been definitely condemned to oblivion by the institution had the lens of a camera not saved them, archived them, and made them visible. There is in this work a “parti pris des choses,” that is, “taking the side of things,” as the poet Francis Ponge put it. The artist gives the objects the same consideration and respect one would sharpened flints of the Paleolithic, Medieval craft tools, or African agricultural instruments. Paradoxically, by capturing them against the immaculate white of a background that decontextualizes them, she gives them new life. Elevated to the rank of museum pieces by the virginal setting, they now evoke the labor of those who imagined and created them. Some are rudimentary, such as the bongs or water pipes, consisting of simple tubes stuck in a plastic bottle or an aluminum can; others are sophisticated, such as the fan mounted on the cardboard cylinder of a potato chip container or the earphones built from yogurt cups. Some are utilitarian, notably the heaters, of which the multiplicity of models is a tribute to the ingenuity of their designers; others have an aesthetic dimension, for example the tattooing machines. Some make use of technological tricks, like the periscope probably intended for spying on the movements of staff; others tell of camouflage efforts, especially the radio sets concealed in improbable casings. The very meaning of these objects is more or less determined. One can, with a rope, surreptitiously pass products to another cell, or hang oneself. If the bladed weapons suggest belligerent or perhaps defensive intentions, the mock pistols and grenades have a more uncertain status, reminiscent of pastiche. If the key moldings and ladders imply projects of escape, such unlikely plans seem rather to belong to the prison imaginary. One can even discern in a number of these objects an ironic diversion of the original: the sock becomes a yo-yo used to pass substances to a fellow inmate; a cross-shaped pendant turns into a dagger once removed from its sheath; the toothbrush is armed with a dangerous razorblade. So many testimonies of what the political scientist James Scott
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called the “arts of resistance,” testimonies we must nonetheless be wary of over-interpreting given the multiplicity of levels at which these objects, simultaneously derisory and precious, rough and clever, mundane and fearsome, may be read. Perhaps this is the ultimate resistance that prisoners can use to oppose their condition: preventing an unequivocal understanding of the meaning and function of the objects they create, craft, and dissimulate. By suspending her commentary, or rather by limiting it to a simple inventory, the artist affords them this margin of freedom. Taking the side of things, she is also taking the side of humanity. Looking at these portraits of singular objects, and going through the list that sparingly names them, one discerns, if not the intent of their creators, some hints at their life in captivity. If heaters are necessary, it is because the cells are not equipped with hot plates that would allow the inmates to prepare their meals, or simply make tea or coffee. If their telephones are concealed, it is because the institution deprives them of the means to communicate with their loved ones, their children, their spouses. If a fork is a potential weapon, it is because the risk of aggression is real. The destitution, the solitude, and the violence of the prison are revealed by each of these utensils. However, the interpretation of these objects can go beyond revealing carceral hardship. Their very existence shows that the inmates escape the allegedly panoptical surveillance of the institution, if only partially, and lead an underground existence where all kinds of objects may be produced. Incidentally, the creation of these objects is not solely dictated by necessity. It obeys different rationalities, where power relations do not exclude relationships of solidarity, where the pleasure of transgression outweighs the risk of punishment, where performance is an essential component of interactions within detention. The blades of varied shapes, taken from used razors or a pair of scissors stuck in a piece of wood or the sole of a shoe, have a dissuasive effect because of the very fact they may appear out of a pocket or a sleeve. This threat extends even to staff members who know that they are themselves at the mercy of revenge on the part of a resentful inmate. The yo-yos, swinging from one window to the next, like the so-called mice that are slipped under doors at the end of a string, signal the intensity of the circulation of goods within the context of detention, despite the obstacles put in place by the administration. The tattooing machines remind us of the importance of the exterior signs of a masculinity exulted by the practice of intensive body-building and the absorption of protein supplements, as a sort of response
to the physical degradation of locked-up individuals. In the words of Indian anthropologist Arjun Appadurai, one can effectively speak of a “social life of things,” a social life that escapes the influence the correctional institution tries to exert over the inmates. For each object discovered, dozens are known to escape the administration’s scrutiny. Even systematic cell searches are of no avail. But perhaps these modest objects, which simultaneously express the idleness of the inmates and their creativity, invite us to reflect in broader terms on the meaning of the sentence and the function of punishment. For a majority of convicts, but also inmates, detention is above all defined by extreme vacuity: a sterile duration with no other reason than imprisonment itself. No possibility to work, for lack of jobs; no real educational prospects, for lack of teachers and spaces; no access to rehabilitation and reinsertion programs to allow for a progressive transition to the outside world, for lack of social workers. Often confined for twenty-two or twenty-three hours a day in cells where carceral overpopulation can make cohabitation difficult and sometimes dangerous, the inmates only go out for a brief and noisy moment outside, which for many consists in roaming around the yard as would large felines in the cage of a zoo. Some do not even allow themselves these brief moments of fresh air, either fearing violence from aggressive prisoners or preferring the respite offered by the absence of their cellmates. Essentially, life in prison consists in passing time, busying oneself with doing nothing, taking upon oneself in the face of daily frustrations, attempting to overcome anxiety and sometimes guilt with the help of cannabis, alcohol, or psychotropic drugs, which Swiss correctional services do not seem eager to document: in the assembled collection, a few bars of hashish and a makeshift alembic hint at the existence of such artificial paradises, which may help to forget, or at least attenuate, the torments of carceral life. A study conducted by psychiatrists in French correctional facilities showed that two-thirds of prisoners display mental disorders and psychological suffering, half of which are in severe forms, either as a result of a pre-existing pathology or as a result of incarceration. European studies indicate that, depending on the country, there are four to ten times as many suicides among inmates when compared with the general population of the same age; that those on remand, theoretically presumed innocent, are twice as likely to commit suicide as those convicted; that entrance into detention is the most sensitive moment in terms of
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suicide; and, finally, that disciplinary confinement multiplies by ten the risk of suicide. This is because prison is always in excess of what it should be, namely a simple deprivation of liberty. The inmate is deprived of all the things that make up ordinary life: intimacy, as not being able to relieve oneself out of the sight of a cellmate is a daily source of embarrassment; sexuality, as rare physical contact with a spouse in the visiting areas depends on the benevolent discretion of the staff; autonomy, as taking a shower after physical activity is subject to the arbitrary decision of the guard; the display of affects, as a moody gesture or the expression of anger leads to sanction, of which the most common is solitary confinement; the normality of social relations, as mistrust, duplicity, and dissimulation become necessary to the safety of the time spent incarcerated. They lack only freedom, one often hears correctional officers say. There is no better illustration of their denial of reality, their refusal to see what is before their eyes every day: the loss of dignity inflicted on the inmate by the carceral condition. Such denial is probably widely shared beyond the walls of prisons.
punishment does not serve to reduce or repress “illegalisms,” but to differentiate between them. The crude tools of disobedience are here to remind the visitor to this imaginary museum of resistance to the carceral condition. These poor objects are objects of the poor. Exhumed from the oblivion to which they were destined thanks to the artist’s work, they surrender their ultimate truth about the contemporary world.
Didier Fassin is Professor of Social Sciences at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. In 2016 he published Prison Worlds: An Ethnography of the Carceral Condition (Polity), the result of four years of study in a French correctional facility, and in 2017 Punir. Une passion contemporaine (Seuil) a reflection on the question of punishment.
The “tools of disobedience” that have been given a life beyond their confiscation and a respectability beyond their relegation by Mélanie Veuillet’s photographs speak to us as much of the inmates who imagined, created, and used them as of the contemporary societies that incarcerate to punish. Prison is a recent invention, little more than two centuries old. For a long time, it was tempting to believe that it reflected what the German sociologist Norbert Elias called the “the civilizing process,” in other words, a softening of punishment. Offenses would no longer be punished by executions carried out in public, sometimes after prolonged torture; instead, offenses would now be punished by imprisonment of varying length in order to reform the convict and protect society. These complacent justifications have had their time. Executions were actually rare in the past, while mass imprisonment is a fact of present times. Incarceration’s true mission was never reinsertion. On the contrary, it has been proven to increase the rate of recidivism. Moreover, the punishment of the offense is real but selective. Only those whom society considers as punishable beforehand are punished: if petty theft and the sale of cannabis are criminalized while tax evasion and embezzlement are tolerated, it is because the perpetrators of the lesser offenses often belong to popular classes or ethno-racial minorities, while the perpetrators of so-called economic crimes are part of the privileged class. As Michel Foucault had understood,
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‘IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE FOREWORD’ Extracts from a conversation between Hans-Ulrich Obrist (HUO) and Anton Bruhin (AB) in 2014.
HUO How did your first works come about ? It’s interesting when an artist finishes their studies and then at some point their work starts. There is always the question of what is the first entry in their catalogue raisonné. On the way to Zürich I was contemplating whether to begin with this question : At what point did your studies end, and what would you consider to be your first work if someone were to draw up a complete catalogue ? AB The transition from a child at play to an adolescent at play and so on was smooth and seamless. The conscious step of saying ‘I want to be a painter too’ came when I touched a painting with my fingertip. I expect my motive as a child was to do the same as that painter, in the way that monkeys do. A child always wants to have another child’s toys too. HUO
Imitation then ?
AB I’d call it a desire. A ‘me too’ desire — not to copy something, but to ‘be too’. When and where was the precise moment when I said to myself ‘Now it’s serious and everything before this was just schoolboy stuff’ ? I can’t remember such a point. The feeling that I was doing something seriously — producing art — came very early on, definitely by the time I was at art school. 52
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So for you there’s no work that you could pinpoint as number one in your catalogue.
AB I’ve still got the drawings I did as a child and the works I produced at school. I had to hunt out the first lot, but my school artworks were lying around. I don’t think there’s anything particularly great amongst them. But now, going back to the F+F (School for Art and Media Design Zürich), Serge Stauffer and the primacy of pop art, I have to say that we were taught Duchamp too. Seeing as I wanted to paint, I was annoyed that we weren’t supposed to paint any more. I came back from the summer holidays with two or three plein-air landscapes and could predict the reaction of my fellow students. ‘Oh, look who’s back with his stuff …’ Not that I wasn’t interested in popart too. The greatest taboo was using a brush — at most you were allowed to spray or lacquer — but anything that could be identified as craftsmanship was frowned upon. We were supposed to strive for an ‘industrial’ surface. Anything that smelled of turpentine was proscribed. At the time this engaged me intensely on a philosophical level. I soon realised that every generation thinks it has discovered ‘it’, and yet there were advanced civilisations in Africa creating photorealistic bronze heads centuries ago. I can’t remember what the civilisation was called, there was an exhibition in the Kunsthaus in Zürich, ‘The Art of Black Africa’ (1970 – 71), extremely modern. With Malevich’s black square and Duchamp’s bottle rack a point of no return had been reached. After that the world is divided into a time before and a time after. But it must also be said that if someone was still painting Pop-Art in 1965, that was painting too. My contemporaries didn’t seem to notice this contradiction. HUO The question of the first work in your catalogue raisonné is also the question of the point at which these first discoveries begin. 53
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An early series I’m familiar with are your calligraphic all-over drawings from 1977 that were exhibited at the Galerie Kornfeld. This was a discovery and the moment when you found an idiom. AB Yes, that was a discovery. In these calligraphic, or all-over drawings I adhered to Michaux, to the beautiful pieces of paper in roughly 50 × 70 cm format. HUO
Was Michaux the inspiration for these drawings ?
AB I meant that more figuratively. Michaux is more concerned with text, whereas I’m more interested in textures. As a child I encountered the essentialism of writing and of the letters of the alphabet. Later I embarked on a typesetting apprenticeship, and so I spent a long while dealing with typography. The calligraphies come from signs and drawing. Although I painted a few pictures at school, which I then put aside, I didn’t become a painter until the 1980s. Actually I’d wanted to save painting until I was older. HUO
[Laughs] Then all of a sudden everyone was painting ?
AB When the Neue Wilden came on the scene, just for once I wasn’t anticyclical. ‘Now I’m not going to be bothered by the others ; I’m going to be doing it too.’ Normally I like taking an oblique stance to something, but not everything I do is only relative to my environment and other people. There’s an autonomous need and drive. HUO Let’s return to the relationship to writing, typography and the typewriter, and then to Michaux, écriture automatique and your calligraphies. Earlier I saw the first draft, which you said was from your student days. How did these books come about ? 54
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AB The April Verlag stuff ? This came from the same material too. I don’t know if I made a fanzine when I was a boy … back then they were still analogue stories … but I was always interested in making little books. External influences on these books ? I wanted to play at being an editor. HUO
Could you say something about the content of your first book ?
AB The first book was Gott lebt (God is Alive). It was anecdotes, I spent a winter in Ticino with Giovanni Blumer, an homme de lettres … With Blumer I began the game that went : ‘God was sitting outside a restaurant, drinking Pernod …’ or ‘In the cinema God watched the film The Bible and said, “The book was better”.’ Was that my reckoning with faith ? [Laughs.] I don’t know. Strictly speaking, however, Rosengarten und Regenbogen (Rose Garden and Rainbow) is the very first book. With mirrors in the binding and a marbled jacket that was based on the classic design of Insel Verlag. It was set straight from the type case without a manuscript. It wasn’t first thought out, written, then typeset and printed, but thought out as it was being typeset : one letter followed the next, words and lines were stacked up at the side etc. To my mind the content of Rosengarten und Regenbogen was absolutely vacuous. The texts are right, but actually they mean nothing. It was more about making a book, the text itself was filler. In Dieter Roth’s Selten gehörte Musik (Rarely Heard Music) the track ends when the record is full. ‘Time must go, go, go, go, go …’ The material is just filler, the content is meaningless and in fact it doesn’t exist. So actually I feel caught out when you ask me about the content, because there isn’t any.
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HUO The idea that you effectively produce literature, you produce books, you produce art, drawings and paintings, that all this always happens in parallel : was this already the case at the beginning, or did it happen gradually ? I’m struck by the fact that when someone talks about you, when I mention your name to some people in the experimental music scene, they say, ‘A music guru’. When I mention you to Kenneth Goldsmith, he says, ‘A poetry guru’, and when I talk to artists they call you ‘An art guru’. It’s very rare for someone to be active in all these fields. Was it like this at the beginning ? AB Yes, absolutely. Drawing and painting, making music and writing texts. I don’t mix disciplines ; in that way I’m conventional when it comes to different art forms. The whole thing is part of my disposition. In the past I suffered from this, people said I did a little in every discipline, but nothing clever. I couldn’t change, I just stayed as I was. At some point I almost internalised the feeling that I hadn’t figured it out yet, but I couldn’t change to satisfy a social expectation. In 1975 the NZZ (Neue Zürcher Zeitung) saw me as a ‘Proteus type’ who needed to adapt to the prevailing circumstances. In Zelig, Woody Allen gave us a vivid example of such a woeful chameleon. But I have a simple analogy for myself. Agriculturally speaking I don’t farm a monoculture, but produce wood, pork, vegetables etc. HUO How have computers changed your work ? They seem to have played a role in the past few years, how did this begin ? AB Copy and paste, drag and drop, and functions like this. You draw a pixel figure just once and then you can multiply and mirror it.
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But that’s the next stage, the pixels come before that. How did it start with the pixels ?
AB That was before computers. I was interested in music boxes and fairground organs that are played using book music. Digital control was used long before the advent of electronic computers. Either ‘on’ or ‘off’ — pneumatic or mechanical, later optical too. Automatic looms also existed long before. Even the first computers still needed punch cards for converting graphics. HUO
Is the digital and pre-digital important for you ?
AB Cross-stitching is at least as important as digital pixels. For me it’s about the reduction of information. How many pixels are necessary for a recognisable figure ? This sort of thing has been around for millennia, archaic textile patterns (Central America, Africa, Slav peoples), ceramics, mosaics …
Born in 1968 in Weinfelden, Hans-Ulrich Obrist is the co-director of the Serpentine Gallery in London. Prior to that he was curator at the Musée d’Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris. Since his first exhibition, The Kitchen Show (World Soup) in 1991 in St Gallen, he has worked as curator on more than 250 exhibitions and been involved in more than 200 book projects. His most recent publications include A Brief History of Curating (2011) ; Project Japan : Metabolism Talks (with Rem Koolhaas, 2011) ; Ai Weiwei Speaks (2011) ; as well as two volumes with selected interviews (2003 and 2010). In 2011 Obrist won the Bard College Award for Curatorial Excellent and the Swiss Institute Honoree Award.
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After the definitive switchover from analog to digital television about three years ago, Luca Schenardi noticed some puzzling non sequiturs one day while viewing teletext – one of his preferred media. In the wake of the digital TV revolution, teletext headlines on a number of channels were scrambled and apparently randomly recombined. In early 2015, for example, Schenardi happened upon the following item : “Pegida Alliance supporters held another rally in Dresden last night. According to the police, roughly 17,000 Pegida activists turned out at the Semperoper [Dresden opera house]. Meyer calls it free coffee.” This gem of a non sequitur was clearly worth saving, whereupon Schenardi began perusing and photographing teletexts on various channels every day. Seized with a mania for collecting suchlike glitches, he transcribed them in black marker and tusche into self-made A5-size notebooks and illustrated his finds with sketches. To date he has filled twenty such notebooks, roughly eight hundred pages, with this peculiar collection. Naturally bound up with daily news coverage, the transcriptions sometimes seem to convey uncanny truths, then get tangled up in utter absurdities, as though attempting a novel approach to relating news of war and calamity around the world in the guise of news ticker headlines. They bear an uncanny resemblance to the serious – though no less absurd – news headlines inundating our daily lives, whether online or in print. In Meyer spricht von Gratiskaffee (“Meyer calls it free coffee”), Schenardi releases a selection of these illustrated teletext quotations, rather like hoverflies – those masters of mimicry – disguised as wasps, into the infotainment jungle.
Luca Schenardi (*1978), Diplom an der Hochschule Luzern HGKL im Fachbereich Illustration (2002). Lebt in Altdorf und arbeitet als freischaffender Illustrator und Künstler in Luzern. 2012 erschien in der Edition Patrick Frey Schenardis Künstlerbuch An Vogelhäusern mangelt es jedoch nicht.
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Luca Schenardi (b. 1978) studied illustration at the HGKL (Luzern School of Art and Design). Now based in Altdorf, he works in Luzern as a freelance illustrator and artist. His previous artist’s book, An Vogelhäusern mangelt es jedoch nicht, was published in 2012 by Edition Patrick Frey.
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Supporters of the ‘PEGIDA’ movement have demonstrated again in Dresden this evening. According to police estimates, 17,000 ‘PEGIDA’ activists came to the Semperoper. Meyer is talking of free coffee. …
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Indian kills 14 relatives : Artisans benefit. In India a 35-year-old man has killed 14 members of his own family. Are German artisans benefiting? Investigators are still puzzled by the killer’s motive. The man had no known financial problems or disputes, according to a statement by the police, who are seeking to achieve their climate goals. 63
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Plans for a new constitution? In the Swiss National Council Roger Köppel has demanded an Islamic constitution from the speaker of the Turkish parliament, Kahraman. According to the Anadolu agency, he said provocatively for Croatia, ‘We are an Islamic country. Because of this we must have an Islamic constitution.’ Secularism, the separation of state and religion, must no longer have a role in the new constitution, he added. 64
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Another Israeli has been killed in a knife attack. The event was arranged by an organisation called ‘Swiss Agri Militant’, which was founded only last August. Before the rally on Bundesplatz, farmers had marched from the Bear Pit to the Federal Palace, accompanied by the pealing of bells. Apparently they thought an Eritrean man was an attacker. He was lynched.
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TRAPPED — ALEX HANIMANN Alex Hanimann Trapped
ISBN 978-3-906803-33-3 EUR 60 | CHF 60 With texts by Hans Rudolf Reust, Patrick Frey in German and English Softcover, 350 pages 550 color images 21 × 28 cm / 8 ¼ × 11 in. Design : Jonas Vögeli und Kurt Eckert
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‘Amazingly enough, camera-trap photographs have yet to be taken up and publicized in the field of art. I am currently addressing this photographic genre in a wide-ranging study, putting together pictorial material and laying down criteria for a wide-ranging collection. In an extensive publication, I am going to bring to light the pictorial qualities to be found in many of these photographs. My investigation does not focus on scientific, biological or ethnographic issues. Rather, the object is to point out the specifically artistic peculiarities of these photos. Concepts like light, cropping, composition and materiality are of particular interest. Although primarily concentrating on formal parameters, the selection of pictures will seek to show a wide variety of animals as well, so narrative qualities will loom large in a number of the individual shots. Whenever possible, pictures taken in diverse habitats and climates will be shown. I expect this to make for a wide range of expressive possibilities in terms of the beauty and consistency of the photographs.’ — Alex Hanimann
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STEINGESICHTER — JEAN WILLI Jean Willi Steingesichter
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STONE FACES Jean Willi
Amongst the stone faces in this book are some that aren’t just anonymous faces, but remind me of people I know or have known. One example is the Konrad Adenauer with his Slavic features at the front of the book, as Martin Suter noted. Or the figures from comic books such as Tintin. There is a Tintin whose left eye is formed by the shadow of a tiny flower [ p. 13 ], and further on is either Thomson or Thompson in profile. I was quite shocked to see the face of my dead father in one of the photographs.
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Other dead people turn up too. Gottfried Benn is easily recognisable, as is Demis Roussos. With a bit of imagination you can see the face of Pablo Picasso on the jacket. A face half covered by twigs — or hair — reminds Karl May readers of Marah Durimeh. There’s also a smiley, Peter von Matt, Charlton Heston as Moses, Brigitte Bardot and Genghis Khan.
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One of the pictures shows Tom Selleck with a Robin Hood cap. You can find Grock, the Swiss clown, an Inca priest in a headdress and another former German chancellor, Helmut Kohl, as well as a profile of the Marquis de Sade. The decision to do without captions in the book gives the reader the opportunity to identify their own faces, both familiar and unfamiliar.
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Most people see faces in the book straightaway. Making out two eyes is a starting point. Some readers might see a face, but not the one I’ve been thinking of, or they’ll discover other faces and gnomes in the background. But what does another person see ? What experiences and images contribute to their way of seeing ? How I can assume that they’re seeing the same things as me, even when they, too, recognise a face in a particular stone ? All of that is a complete mystery to me. I shouldn’t wish to judge the extent to which my fixation with seeing faces in stones has become an obsession. At times it does disturb me that I can make out a hundred faces on an hour-long walk. Then I’ll gaze at the horizon or the pines at the side of the path and feel relieved that I can’t see a mythical creature in a gnarled old branch. It’s a nice feeling not to have to look for stone faces when I’m on a walk ; I know that they’re there. Whenever I want to see one, I can casually look in any direction and I’ll spot it. Occasionally I’ll flip a stone over with my stick because I refuse to admit that it won’t show me its face, and there it is on the other side. Those moments have something magical about them, as if the stones were toying with me or their faces just waiting for me to find them. It’s tempting to get drawn into esoteric mind games, because as humans we seek explanations, especially for phenomena — which in a certain sense these sightings are. Occasionally I’ll pick up a stone face and take it back home. There I’ll try to hold the stone in the light so it reveals its face to me again. This rarely works. In the place where I originally came across it originally the light, the angle of incidence was right ; the pine needles and pebbles surrounding the stone were all part of a dramatisation that led to the face’s discovery. All rather naturally and without effort. The secret is to let them find me. 77
DAS FLÜSTERN DER DINGE — THOMAS KREMPKE Thomas Krempke Das Flüstern der Dinge
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During the few days I spent in Appenzell I was finally able to photograph people. It’s still much more difficult than I’d imagined. * Facsimilate pages from Thomas Krempke’s original diaries.
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Chartres, 16 July 2011 They don’t build cathedrals these days, hardly ever. These days other things point the way forward. And all of us follow — like good people ! It’s really confusing sometimes !
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7 October 2011 An interview with JL Goddard in Die Zeit : ‘In the great battle between the eyes and speech, the gaze has the greater analytical power.’ ‘When two images clash, a third emerges. Another way of seeing.’ ‘Montage is the best means of analysis because it can break through the linearity of history, the linearity of thought and the linearity of writing.’
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So much for M. saying that my pictures of San Sebastian are dismal. They are dismal, but … A day is a very disperse thing ; it’s not that it just begins and ends and is in constant evolution, from morning to evening. No, it proceeds in leaps and bounds, goes around in circles, there are repetitions and skips, omissions and ellipses. A day can be a chaotic jumble of times and moments.
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JOSEF MARIA SCHRÖDER — CHRISTOPH KAPPELER Christoph Kappeler Josef Maria Schröder
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A few unremarkable crates, one already broken — a surprisingly small collection. I’d been expecting more from the much-trumpeted legacy of Josef Maria Schröder, a painter I’d never heard of until recently. After quite a lot of back-and-forth, Christoph Kappeler obtained the bequest from an antiques and art dealer somewhere in northern central Germany. But even a cursory peek into these ‘little boxes’ revealed that we’d stumbled upon a goldmine, which had to be explored down to the tiniest detail (even if for the publication — more pictures than text — only the 25,000-character version of his biography was called for). One crate contained pictures that may have served as templates for never-painted landscapes, during a summer holiday in Resia, northern Italy. None of the people depicted are identifiable except for the painter with his mane of snow-white hair. Then family photos, holidays in Capri in the 1920s, a Neapolitan cancer clinic. Later, the painter, still with snow-white hair, hunched over two sticks somewhere in the mountains on the northern edge of the Alps. Here were things to be excavated, a fate in the two remaining crates. 85
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One of these contained letters. Hundreds of letters. In German, French, Italian and English, from over six decades. The content of most of them was anodyne ; these were soon discarded. The rest, together with the second crate, full of documents, produced a history that only assumed its real drama with the non-biographical material. A handful of sketchbooks, filled from cover to cover (including the covers) with drawings, sometimes one on top of the other : still lifes, dark visions, puzzling groups of people, rugged landscapes and faces, faces, faces. These melancholic men and women sketched in notebooks, on bills and envelopes. Who was this Josef Maria Schröder, who lacked all knowledge of art history, about whom there were and still are only snippets of incorrect information on the internet ? A man just as unknown, then and now, in Rottach in Allgäu as in his home city of Düsseldorf ? A meticulous examination of all — and I do mean all — the letters, documents, sketchbooks, philosophical reflections, medical diagnoses, artistic visions and all those melancholic faces gazing at a world closed to me, those sorrowful mothers, rigidly suffering redeemers, those silently gazing women and girls, filled with their secret sorrow, has resulted in an unusual life story, a devastatingly sad, materially impoverished life, but one brightened by illuminating visions which we would never have imagined possible from this painter we first met through his drawings and oil paintings, and which we now held in our hands as a completely unexpected treasure.
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THERE ARE NO HOMOSEXUALS IN IRAN — LAURENCE RASTI Laurence Rasti There Are No Homosexuals in Iran
ISBN 978-3-906803-38-8 EUR 52 | CHF 52 With texts in English and Farsi Hardcover, approx. 136 pages Approx. 50 images 15 × 25 cm / 6 × 10 in. Design : Laurence Rasti & Neo Neo
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I have always been afraid of everything. Accustomed to swimming against a flow that eventually fell off a ledge. I still don’t know the reason for my being here. Have I escaped from something, or am I here to embrace something else ? God knows how hard it is to change … I guess that’s why he never does and leaves it all to us, regardless of godly concerns. I don’t want to wait any longer. I fear my life will be wasted away in waiting. I want to let go of fear and trust the course of life. I don’t say this when my belly and pockets are full. I’m saying this now, after losing everything that I had. Life doesn’t always give us what we want. I am here, today, not in the yesterdays of old or the unknown tomorrows. I am here, right now, getting to know its walls and trees and sky and loving it. I sit and daydream of the house I will have and how easy my life will be, with busy weeks and fun weekends. These days, I walk with my feet on the ground and my gaze up towards the sky. I think more seriously about the sky, its pure turquoise blue and clean white clouds. Here, I am never late and never early. Nobody is expecting me anywhere in this land. — Ahoura
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THE ICEBERG — GIORGIO DI NOTO Giorgio di Noto The Iceberg
ISBN 978-3-906803-39-5 EUR 70 | CHF 70 Hardcover, 128 pages 76 color images 16.5 × 24 cm / 6 ½ × 9 ½ in. Design : Nicolas Polli
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THE ICEBERG Paola Paleari ‘These days you look at the surface Web, all that yakking, all the goods for sale, the spammers and spielers and idle fingers, all in the same desperate scramble they like to call an economy. Meantime, down here, sooner or later someplace deep, there has to be a horizon between coded and codeless. An abyss.’ — Thomas Pynchon, Bleeding Edge, 2013 The World Wide Web is the familiar face of the Internet, that virtual place where we all go each day, looking for information, interactions, commitments, business, answers, gratification and entertainment. The navigable space shared among the various browsers today totals almost 4.5 billion pages, 1 yet the space that we can actually freely explore is limited to a surface characterized by the fact that the documents and all other resources made available to us there are identified by a set alphanumeric sequence, i.e., an address that defines its electronic location. This zone that has emerged is part of a larger whole that could be compared to the tip of an iceberg. Beneath lies something ten times bigger, the Deep Web, the part of the network that has not yet been indexed by search engines : new sites under construction, private company archives, web pages with dynamic content, and so on. If we descend to even greater depths, we reach the Dark Web, a place accessible only via highly specialized programs that connect anonymously to dedicated networks known as the Darknet. Once we enter the furthest and paradoxically vastest space of the Web, we theoretically become invisible. This is where many illicit activities are carried out, far from the [1] Data correct as of March 10, 2017. Source: http://www.worldwidewebsize.com
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light of day : industrial espionage, political conspiracy, drug trafficking and illegal weapons sales. Thousands of images can be found here and nowhere else in our apparently hyperillustrated, watched and connected world. This tortuous, downward spiral (the Deep Web has also been compared to Dante’s Inferno) is the path that Giorgio Di Noto takes viewers along in The Iceberg, a project that appropriates and reworks photographs downloaded from drug trafficking sites on the Dark Web. The Iceberg opens a window onto a darker, or perhaps invisible space of online imagery. The first input comes from the title itself : the most commonly used metaphor to describe the structure of the Deep Web. Interestingly, in an ever more virtual society where images have been almost completely stripped of their material quotient, our knowledge of the world is increasingly filtered through the formulation of figures of speech endowed with a strong sense of physicality. Humans have always resorted to analogies and comparisons better to understand their reality, but digital culture has spread this process of transferring meaning to an unprecedented extent. Metaphors tied to our 92
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natural, anthropological and social environments are used to facilitate our interpretation of the intangible phenomena of the technological and digital revolutions everywhere. Consider the bodily, almost primitive suggestion in the expression ‘global village’ coined by Canadian philosopher Marshall McLuhan in 1964, or the original meaning of the word ‘Facebook’ and the implications of the object it derives its structure from (namely, a yearly photo address book distributed at many boarding schools in the US, a big part of the students’ social experience and culture). This is where Di Noto begins his study of the representation of imagery and the translation of its characteristics as a phenomenon, even before considering the images themselves — an interest that has guided his previous projects as well. The game of smoke and mirrors that shrouds the Dark Web’s complex texture has been transferred to the exhibition, both in terms of the individual prints and the installation as a whole. The project is interactive and labyrinthine : a reflection of the unstable, laborious, disparate nature of the Deep Web and the images it contains. In this way, we can look at The Iceberg as a 93
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kind of tangible Doppelgänger of an intangible, encrypted netherworld. We walk amidst images of illicit substances sold in this submerged e-commerce space, appearing to us one by one in the dark, lit by the same UV light that drug enforcement agencies use in the course of their investigations to hunt for traces of certain narcotics. And we are constantly denied a view of the whole, especially in moments of direct illumination, where the invisible images disappear and we only see black-and-white photographs : these are pictures that can be found both above and below the Web’s surface, representing the point of intersection of these two worlds. As we explore The Iceberg, the term archontic, used by Jacques Derrida in Archive Fever to define continuously expanding archives that never fully close, comes to mind. In our screen-addicted universe, where each individual element appears to be numbered, we instead face a reality of free-floating indeterminacy that defies any sort of definitive calculation. Literature has already grappled with this phenomenon extensively, and now art, especially photography, has begun to translate it into new aesthetic, narrative forms. [ This essay was first published on the occasion of the exhibition The Iceberg by Giorgio Di Noto, curated by Paola Paleari at Fotografia Europea, Reggio Emilia (Italy) in 2017. ]
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honestly must tell think my life right now really great.I‘m I don‘t a 9oftofailing 5- jobit‘s by life! Making theyou: rightI decisions is so hard to is do. Because reallyhave afraid anymore like I had before I moved to London. And I really enjoy that tremendously. But hard to do anything at all sometimes. Just to get up in the morning like for a real reason. still it wouldn‘t hurt to have just a little more to do.why I justI‘m realized LATER … — RICO SCAGLIOLA & MICHAEL What if there isYEARS no fucking reason? Maybe that‘s stayingabout inMEIER bedmyself for sothat longI just in gotta go out into the world you know. Like live at different places, meet different people. the morning. I just got no motivation whatsoever. With my job it‘s really important to go out, like also to parties. Just to go places and socialize andtoget know new people. Like that the jobs will follow, I‘m sure. The other 7. Supposed callto me day example was at this birthday partycalled of a friend I already And for I also am soI disappointed she hasn‘t me forofa mine wholethat month now. knew I decided before I moved here. And there I met two new customers that now are really interested not to text her or anything because I really wanted her to call me. She never calls me in my work. some of friend, these people at work aretoso exhausting - the her! You when I needBut herhonestly most. She is my she is supposed know when I need gratuitous bullshit they‘re justimagining like: "Thehow problems people know, to me, she is reality.talking All theabout. time II‘m keep my lifeyou should be. have, Stuck in seriously?!" - I mean I‘d actually rather work placeneed where canright reallynow be I'm fully my imagination. But she is certain, she's real.atI areally heryou cause involved a project. Like build up whole concept. ButI you gotta go the scared ofineverything. I‘m scared ofawhat I saw, of what did, just of who I am. Andhard mostway of first I guess be an feeling assistant then it‘s alllife about connections. It‘sI‘m justwith so her. all I‘m scaredand of never thefirst restand of my whole the way I feel when goddamn boring to assist! You know if you achieved a certain standard like I did - like at 10.Bar Fatigue-crisis/ Money problems 8. and do, Exhibition hostworked what you what you for most time of your life - then it‘s really annoying to go Lately I‘m really tired all the time. I‘m just Igoing through major fatigueThe lasta So since a few months every other week organize this a bar at itmy apartment. such back and like do an apprenticeship again. At least that‘s what feels likecrisis. whenIt's I‘m only months they but not inwith a good way.like Soall many happening good thing towere do if just you so feelbusy, like mingling people, kindsthings of people with at the assisting. same time but like no motivation to dosoanything. It‘sbecause weird. I had nobecame time to different backgrounds. For me it was refreshing I feltabsolutely my work-life relax. No timeproblems, for myself. I really 14. Consumer new shoesplanned on spending less money but in this city You know, to me there‘s always only one wayit fits it doesn‘t. Like I've everything‘s so expensive! I‘m almost broke, it‘seither terrible. If Iorhad some money leftseen I could these shoestime thatout areand so fine. I gotta get them. They my style, they are so buy me. take some just go somewhere else withjust mymatch girlfriend. Or I could finally I‘m buy them the money gotvacation for my birthday. boyfriend saidimportant I should to thisgonna bike I wanted forwith so long and goIon with her.My I think it‘s really save moneyfrom for my singing classes andnew thathorizons. I’d already have need so many shoes. But go onthe vacation time to time. It opens I totally to get my shit anyway don‘tstraighten care. He‘s annoying now. You know not sensitive togetherI and upso my finances.right Especially now withhe‘s our so marriage coming up. I sometimes. doesn‘t reallya listen to My me girlfriend and evenisgoes to parties withoutlike me.she Also last mean that's He gonna be quite project. so good with money, new year‘s he just leftclothes me home out by himself. Justabecause was doesn‘t careeve about fancy andalone stuff. and And went she only goes out once week. It Imust sick. had family this hardcore in my mouth wisdom It took the run inI her I guess.infection Like she‘s drawing upbecause budgetsof formy things like teeth. this new guitar 16. New sweater dentists one She fucking yearknows to find exactly out my how gumsmuch weremoney full of abscesses. she just like bought. always she can afford to spend. I am all over the place right now, I have so much in my head. So after my dentist's thing which didn’t take Mayonnaise too long I went to the mall because I decided to get some stuff. Just to 15. 11. Anal WGtroubles/ shoot me up a little bitdid more because of good stuff thatother happened recently calmed And the other this day agreement we anal but we he would went intext too fast. You know theythat do that: just we have that each if we when have some friends over me I guess. I bought this black crop sweater that says "heart and love". Surely cute and shoving it in. That shit really hurts. You gotta go easy first. I was so pissed I pushed him for dinner or whatever. Just to like coordinate things. But if his girlfriend is at home with ifhim I was skinnier I’dhim look prettier but itAnyway. stillI fits me well.other I love tops like that Ithese alsocook got away and just jerk off, whatever. mean so cute but lately he and has things canlet get really annoying. So he‘s the day I texted him I would another one that’s like black and red with some square prints on it. And I also bought phases when he‘s insensitive. mean join. generally he's ok doing great lately, for my friends and really he texted back heI would So it was for me and I toldhe's him I two jeans, super comfortable. making realboth progress. Business-wise I mean also he‘s so good to me. could only make something simple like bakedand potatoes because I was short on money. Then he texted me again to tell me that he‘s fine with potatoes but that I couldn‘t use his
17. Monitoring Because yourself it‘s some kind of special, fucking expensive, Japanese mayonnaise.
You know I‘mIalways monitoring myself. the time. How I look,And howwhen I dress, I mayonnaise! didn‘t even know they hadAll mayonnaise in Japan. he how finally walk, what I say and the way I say it. And it‘s not just in my mind. It‘s also in my body. came home, the first thing he did was removing the mayonnaise to his shelf in the fridge Like my body‘s always under self-monitoring, tight. mean on of a strictly so nobody would take it. And so I‘mmuch sure he probably wasso dying toIput some this gay rational level I know that‘s bullshit people tell me I‘m good-looking and I work out. But I mayonnaise on his potato but he couldn‘t in front of me. like don‘t believe them, my body doesn‘t feel it. It‘s as if my body and my heart are constantly screwing meher over. Like when I‘m walking on the streets I'd turn to see if 12. I don’t even care for there‘s someone walking behind and if there don‘t actually is care someone, myThere body never instantly The other day I suddenly realizedme that I actually even for her. goes pay between attentionus to to your walking, up!randomly Someone's looking at you!“ reallylike: was„Hey, anything begin with. Istraighten just met her and for a time I -or something like that. felt pity for her because I felt how bad she needed a friend. So I went along - but to be honest I soon realized I just don‘t care for her period. She doesn‘t interest me. There‘s
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Life in general haslife been rough lately. Relations family and Itoare wanted me in her andpretty we had some pointless fun. Iwith justmy don‘t respond herreally
other hand they’re saying: "We love you, we care about you, we wanna see you friends to come visitlike himaindouble Paris. standard. Even though we talked this over and Iagreed we my will succeed...". It‘s just It makes me so sad cause can't trust be seeing us that same week. It‘s so annoying! I mean what‘s the point in this calendar YEARS LATER … — RICO SCAGLIOLA & MICHAEL family anymore, like the people who raised me, who are supposed MEIER to love me. But I get then? We agreed to do this together because he‘s kind of sloppy in organizing stuff through it and get over it. anyway. And what really pisses me off is that I could only once stay at his apartment in Paris. He doesn‘t like me to stay there because he‘s living with this older gay guy who‘s 19. Building momentum probably into him anyway. Buthave he can there cheap so getting my boyfriend‘s kind of and So really this past few weeks justlive been about kinda my shit together dependent of him and he‘s also hoping this guy cantohelp himBuilding get goodmomentum jobs. The I setting the groundwork for bigger and better things come. problem is could that this guy reallyone hates to I've havebeen any thinking women in the house. So he doesn‘t I guess you say. That’s thing about a lot lately: momentum. want meiftoyou stay there. feel like have momentum it doesn't really matter so much if you don't have really 23. Alcoholism
When we‘re together we booze every day. And I started drinking beer. Actually it's ginger beer but with alcohol. I don‘t know, it‘s just so nice to open a bottle of wine now and then and then. He really likes to drink you know. I mean he really drinks a lot. Not a heavy drinker, he can still handle it, but he‘s drinking a lot of beer and stuff. I really just like to drink alcohol. I'm just like getting more and more into it. Now and then I really love to make my own Bloody Mary‘s you know. It‘s kind of a delicacy- thing for me. 24. Thigh gap, body trouble
And honestly, my legs used to have no thigh gap at all. The inside of my thighs touched and I sweat like a pig down there. But now when I put on my yoga pants there‘s clearly a gap! I think it‘s so awesome. I just have to take care now that the gap doesn‘t get smaller again. You know it‘sIalmost likesorry. that gap is kindI of fat-mean barometer. When theI flaws. And if I really do that, am really Because doanot to do that. And gap‘s want getting biggertomy hips are getting tighter.than me when they see me. never anyone feel that they are lesser 25. Ayahuasca, Current nail life situation 29. change
Onefor of my she has thelife most beautiful nail art. she has so these And the friends, last 7 years of my I thought I wanted to Right be annow actor. I was sure I almond-shaped And she‘s done them I‘ve always wanted wanted to be an nails actorlike andkiller. I’ve been pursuing it for theherself. last 5 years. I thought I justthese go for nails but I didn't know you could do them yourself, professionally. italmond-shaped and took classes. I spent so much money for headshots and now like I’ll change. Like I’mI alwayschange do this right thin layer gel on and then over it.absolutely Because my nails gonna now. of I can’t bemy an nails actor.first And now thispaint will sound crazy are Ialways paint. My current with nail- asituation but have tosogobrittle to theI can‘t jungleuse andgel have to apprentice shaman.is Iquite havedifficult to learn anyway because Iand hadI some of teach my nails doneabout in New there. about Ayahuasca have to people it. IYork havebecause to. Like they this isbroke something Andhas thenbeen I hadbugging some ofme thesince others doneback over from here.Ecuador. So now unfortunately theyfor all 18 look that I came I was in Ecuador totallyand different. days stayed with this native family in the jungle for 5 days. Did two Ayahuasca ceremonies and ever since I’ve just been so unsure about acting. And now like today I 26. Downward funeral, headache have found outspiral, that Itire, have to move out in 3 weeks. So I’m finally coming to terms of the Anyway I am having a really badass sure it’s and due live to my fromand work, fact that I have to do this. Like I have headache. to go back I‘m to Ecuador in stress the jungle mythis. life, Ilack ofstay sleep, notand drinking water, eating unhealthy. Now am fully starting think do can’t here pretend being an actor one day. I’mI not in itto you know. that I am gonna have migraines. I know I am super-hypochondriac. And also the tires on I’m freaking out right now. Like this is 7 years of my life kinda like gone out of the my car have beenI‘m going really badnew for the fewhealthier months path and the dayexpected there was window and now on this whole andpast much thatother I never to be on. It's so weird. I never felt so strongly about anything before in my life. 30. Sexual molestation
But it's getting more and more difficult for me to even trust anyone. Like profoundly. It makes me really sad because I know I actually have so much love inside me. But so many things have been destroyed. Like it's really so bad. I've been molested sexually multiple times in my life. It's long ago and it was like in a time 100when I was experimenting a lot you know. When I always felt this urge. And I really really regret that. Because it all
where she‘s going. She’s got style, really nice hair, soft skin. I feel like strong and confident when I'm with her. And she‘s really crazy sometimes you know. Once she SCAGLIOLA & MICHAEL MEIER bought a thongYEARS for me LATER … — RICO and she was so turned on when I wore it. And sometimes she know. And this dancer-asshole flat-out spread these things around like everywhere, until tells me that she dreams of having sex with women. I had to hear it again from some random guy I know. I feel so betrayed. I know at some point I probably should have cleared things up and tell her how I feel about her. But I 33. Enjoying single life, sex hunger know her. Ineed just don’t why II can’t her out ofwant my heart and I knowI could exactlynever whathave I actually of all know the things want.get Like I don't a my body. I mean I just ok. want her towant have best possible means her having relationship and that's I don't tothe have thelife feeling thatwhich I belong to someone or a boyfriend. But Ielse still kind wantofher so much. I want herIt's likeallthe best You friend shesomebody, is but I alsoyou give someone a possessive feeling. about: meet want to satisfy her like sexually. Just be fuck buddies I guess. But it's not possible. spend some time together and then when it starts to get complicated or even hurtfulShe you could getIt's thisallkind of satisfaction outsince of me. that. So I'm alone my can letnever him go. about letting go and I'mI know so clear about this, I canwith finally feelings for lose her and nowinI someone somehowelse. haveIttofeels learnsohow to to transform these So feelings into completely myself good lose yourself. right now someone I'm like soelse. sexed up. You know when you have sex with someone and you can see the lust in their faces. Really just completely out of control and then they are orgasming 36. New Tank Top because of you. It‘s so empowering. I mean like when you are so turned on by someone Iyou gotjust these celebrity-print tank up, topslike foralmost you. I saw picture-potential in it. I thought they want to eat that body for real. were woman sizes but they turned out to be men sizes. So they are gonna be huge. 34. Fucked-up drug story Berlin They are really cute. And I thought you could just take pictures of it with you wearing it. And got my drug usethese under control. of With all thepeople. shit that A guyI finally from New York does drawings famous Hehappened is workingrecently for this I'm really over it. After I went through therapy I didn't take any drugs for a really long company called “seeks-peaks” or something. I forgot the name, I got the addresstime. at It just wasn't that fun anymore. So this the other to Berlin to see my best friend home whatever. And they make shit toweek order.I went So they have New York and I thought like:that "Fuck gotta go party in of Berlin." I could just as welldoes artists/illustrators do it, allyou these different kind things.I thought Like each illustrator/artist take some drugs. So me and my friend we really were dropping everything: Special K, like five different designs and then they print it on mugs or tank tops or like do a “Golden MDMA,cover Ecstasy, Speed - likeand anything, mixed up.And Thethey thingdon’t was:do She on this Girls”for your phone all that all kind of shit. all was celebrities, club’s guest list because she knew this douchebagDJ which we were hanging out with they choose the one’s they like. And then when I saw it, I got one extra large because I the whole night. And he on the other hand was friends withyou thecut resident dealer. my thought they were girl-sizes. What I was thinking of is that it on the sidesSo and friend just that had fabric to tell off thisand DJ lace whatever she wanted andcut heitgot for her. like then take it up. drug And then you could likeityou wantItit.was It takes the night you're so shitfaced can't even dance talk straight anymore. You like kinda two minutes. I would have doneyou it but I wasn’t sure if or you wanted that. 37. Art Collector, career help Next week is this dinner party at this collector’s house which I’m invited to. You know he is the big, super diva here, right? I was always like I gotta get you and him together and so on, you know. And now he lets me into his core. It’s major. Every city got a few of these major persons. I mean he is such a diva, he is a flower, he is beautiful. For real. He got that way without being bitchy. And I am really sure, once he gets you, he will make sure that the doors will open just like that. So I wrote this message to apologize, and I knew that you wouldn’t be mad about it. I explained your piece. What you did in the way I interpreted it. It helped him and everybody to kinda get the “aha” of your message, to understand you more. Because sometimes you overestimate the sophistication of your audience. You were right to do what you do, it was great. But a lot of people didn’t get you. And when I said that he wrote to me: “It’s good that you said that because some people didn’t get it.” When he said that, I realized that he didn’t
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VOICES FROM THE SET An extract from the transcript of the French television program Cinéastes de notre temps on Pier Paolo Pasolini, edited by Jean-André Fieschi (1966).
[ …] 3. ROME. Via Eufrate. Terrace — daytime. July 1966.
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Walter Pfeiffer in front of his huge portrait at his studio in Freigutstrasse — The Zürich painter Walter Pfeiffer, twice winner of a Swiss Art Scholarship and a hypersensitive artist whose photographs will be exhibited at the next Bienniale de Paris in September, is looking forward to finishing what — at least in its sheer scale — is his magnum opus. On a canvas measuring six metres by three, the artist, owner of a cat called ‘Nüssli’, has painted the portrait of a Zürich family in acrylic and coloured pencil. The seven lifelike figures, the family of a Zürich interior designer, smile against the backdrop of a beautiful landscape. Pfeiffer, who has been working on this huge portrait for five months, has urged people not to reveal the name of his art-loving client. [ Published on the front page of the Züri Leu newspaper, on Friday, 30 May 1975. Photo : Reto Zellweger ]
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BOB LE FLÂNEUR The incredibly diverse productions of Bob Steffen Claudia Honegger
Perhaps the most astonishing thing about the life of Fredi Steffen, who was born in 1928, is the fact that, taking his career as a nude model as a starting point, he was able to extend the logic of staging himself to his social life and work. Now everything was staged : his body, nightlife, love life, product line. Having grown up in modest circumstances, he was discovered as a handsome young man at the age of fifteen and made to pose in countless photographs of lakes and mountains. He managed to turn these experiences into a life’s project and carve a career out of them. He successfully completed an apprenticeship as a window dresser at EPA (Einheitspreis AG), the Swiss department store that opened in 1930 and focused on cheap goods. He would soon leave. What were the circumstances that made possible, or at least favoured, such an astonishing life ? The war didn’t come to Switzerland. Bern wasn’t an occupied city. But the mood was sombre here too. Everyday life in the age of ‘spiritual national defence’ was characterised by fear, mistrust and making sure you didn’t stand out or step out of line. There was huge pressure to conform, but this also gave rise to a counter-movement. Subcultural milieus evolved which existed pretty much out in the open and which experimented with alternative ways of living and thinking. The psychology of Carl Jung, the Eranos conferences in Ascona, memories of the experiments on Monte Verità, as well as anarchism, surrealism and existentialism promised new directions. 135
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For the generation that had grown up during the war, 1945 represented a caesura and an assurance that from now on life could be celebrated. The war had also undermined the traditional model of gender roles. The archetype of the warrior was badly damaged, thus sparking the hope of finding new paradigms of masculinity and living accordingly. New ways emerged of forming communities and of interpreting the world — No such transformation was possible in the morally discredited and devastated Germany, where men such as Jürgen Habermas (b. 1929) or Günter Grass (b. 1927), who would later be described as the Flakhelfer-Generation (‘child soldier generation’), set about reprocessing the German catastrophe. In Germany there was barely any opportunity to explore the more frivolous side of being young. Paris became the centre of this new attitude towards life. Here, beginning with the Liberation in August 1944 and coontinuing once the war was over, subversive groups emerged, exchanging unconventional thinking, aesthetic modes of expression and styles of behaviour. Saint-Germain-des-Prés thus became a Mecca for nonconformists from near and far. Besides the already long-established coffee houses such as Café de Flore (with its illustrious regulars Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir) or Les Deux Magots, many small, even tiny cellar bars opened, where people talked, sang, recited, danced, drank — and smoked a great deal. Le Tabou, for example, a ‘centre de folie organisée’ (Boris Vian) which opened on the corner of rue Dauphine and rue Christine in 1947, hosted poets and chansonniers, even famous singers such as Juliette Gréco (b. 1927) or the Jewish Barbara (b. 1930). Cabaret L’Ecluse, the famous spot on the Quai des Grands-Augustins, the stage (including piano) was 3.5 by 2 metres, and there was space for a maximum audience of 80 amidst the thick cigarette smoke. From 1945 to around 1965 a colourful mixture of anarchistic dreams and non-conformist lifestyles 136
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emerged in Saint-Germain-des-Prés, an overlapping of existentialism, chanson, bebop, jazz and most notably an anti-bourgeois self-styling by the noctambules and rats-de-cave. ‘Nous étions étourdis comme après une longue maladie’ (‘We were numb, as after a long illness’) was how a contemporary described the attitude towards life immediately after the end of the war. This somehow frivolous mood was not confined to Paris. It was the mindset of the Bern scene in the lower Old Town too. In basement bars — also tiny, also filled with smoke — , a lively developed that was lived and performed literally underground, in twisty vaults beneath the old grey houses. Night owls and ‘cellar rats’ met here too, for discussions, readings, parties, theatre evenings and masked balls. The Masks of Desire and the Metamorphoses of Sensuality. This title — of a book on the history of sexuality in the West — could just as well sum up the milieu in which Fredi from Liebefeld developed into Bob, the artful stylist of his own image. The former object in front of the homophile amateur photographer’s camera became a subject, staging himself. A scoundrel and a charmer, who always dressed and moved like a dandy, who loved men and sometimes women too. Who was extravagant, dead smart and bisexual, like his role model Jean Cocteau. And who, like Cocteau, loved luxury. Even in grey Bern, dreams of luxury thrived, which seemed to hint at the possibility of their coming true. Just like his window displays, Bob’s idiosyncratic attire promised a luxury that most people couldn’t afford : even in Switzerland the economic miracle didn’t benefit the wider population until the 1960s. Werner Bandi’s photographs adhered to a more classical aesthetic, a style also visible in Karl Geiser’s groups of figures in front of Kirchenfeld School in Bern. The young window dresser, on the other hand, often used radically surrealist motifs when draping 137
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clothes and materials in the displays of fashion houses. In his opulent window displays he developed a high level of artistry to capture the attention of the passers-by. He wanted them to stop, he wanted to force them to look. To arouse their curiosity, as in the cinema. In the endless series of photographs where he appears as a nude model, he often looks like a mannequin who, although attracting the viewer’s attention as an object of desire, leaves them with an impression of ennui. His gaze roams indecisively into the distance, vaguely indifferent, merely obeying the instruction of the man behind the camera, who makes him turn his head, sometimes this way, sometimes that. As a window dresser he won back the right to his own gaze and perfected the techniques of exhibiting objects. This can be seen both in his window displays created for the various fashion boutiques in Bern and in his huge tapestries for the Swiss textile industry at the Pavillon Création at the MUBA trade fair in Basel, which gave him the opportunity to realise his aesthetic ideas on a large scale. Opposite, at 52 Kramgasse, lived the philosopher Jean Gebser, who in his 1949 first volume of The Ever-Present Origin (subtitled The Foundations of the Aperspectival World. A Contribution to the History of the Awakening of Consciousness) held out the prospect of the development of a new, integral consciousness. The idea was also to sow chaos in the hope of reaping order. And in his immediate environment, at least, he seems to have been rather successful at this. Also from Jean Gebser, who lived in Bern Old Town from 1955 to 1969, comes the following aphorism, which could have been written about Bob Steffen : ‘With every question, we are asking about ourselves ; and everything viewed is an answer.’ It should be added, however, that not everything is viewed. For something to be viewed, it must be stylised and presented in a striking way. Seeing and being seen, viewing and being viewed. A masquerade that Bob raised to a living art. 138
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It is a wonderfully bizarre footnote of art history that the former nude model Meret Oppenheim (b. 1913) and Bob Steffen lived, worked, loved, partied and reinvented themselves as artistic subjects together in Bern Old Town. Late in life she became an icon of twentieth-century century art and her flame still burns bright. His incredibly diverse mousseline dreams, however, have disappeared.
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On Sundays Papi drove three or four times to the Katzensee lake and back, ferrying his family one by one to the site of our weekly picnic with its Wiener schnitzels and potato salad in a jar, and after a few hours of leisure and pleasure he repeated the same routine to get us all home again. But when he took me on a real outing on my own I was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town and out.
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One year, my father made me the loveliest doll’s house, with little electric lights and perfect little furniture. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ! I sewed a lot of love into that hem, and thousands of best wishes for her happiness. I was in heaven. And then I held the pincushion for the fittings of Bambi-eyed, sweet, frail Audrey Hepburn. She told me I looked like Leslie Caron, and she thought me very pretty. A week later I had the immense pleasure of holding the pincushion again, this time to fit the dress of Leslie Caron in person. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ? Just before he turned away, he whispered, ‘You’re the nicest thing that’s happened to me in years.’ Then he put his soft lips on mine, just brushing them, and vanished in the crowd. I was in a state of shock. Grinning from ear to ear, I clung blindly to Heinz’s arm and let him guide me home. ‘Oh, Heinz, I’m so happy. I think I’m THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town !’ Thank heavens I had told him about that visiting girl touching my pussy all night, and he said, ‘It must have been that oversexed South African sow who gave it to you with her hand, and then I caught it from you the next day’. I promptly agreed. But I knew for certain that the three minutes with Nando’s naughty instrument had to be the real source of the disease. Even with gonorrhoea, I was once more THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town.
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And now Lucy told me that she had seen my drawing framed in Brigitte Bardot’s bedroom. Next to my signature I had made my logo, which is a little caricature of my face. She told Brigitte she knew the artist, whereupon Brigitte begged to meet me. So we were invited to Günther Sachs’s apartment for dinner sometime around the beginning of November. The same afternoon I went to see my doctor, who confirmed that I was pregnant. It may have been a rainy grey day for everybody else in Paris, but for me it was the brightest day of the year. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ! I could feel his hard prick through his clothes and my whole body was melting and I can’t say how long we stood like that, but suddenly 143
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I came, I had an orgasm as if his cock had penetrated me for real. ‘I’m coming … oh, Rick, I’m coming …’ ‘I know... me too …’ and then I could feel with my hand that he was telling the truth, his pants were soaked — and guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ? To celebrate our double triumph, I invited my sweet and serviceable lawyer for lunch, which he insisted on paying for, and we laughed about the lawyer defending me rather than his client. No adversary in his experience had ever spoken in his client’s favour, nor had any insurance company accepted so large a settlement without any haggling. On top of that he’d never had as much fun with any client as he’d had with me, and for that reason he refused to accept any fee. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ! He used to be a theatre director in New York and was famous for having slept with the most beautiful women, even though he was basically gay. He was a cover boy too and was the darling of the international jet set. He was very bright and witty with a razor sharp tongue — and the brochet à l’aneth he served us for lunch was unforgettable. It was a perfect day for a déjeuner sur l’herbe. With all those handsome people sitting around, guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ? I pinched myself again and it really hurt and I knew I’d have two tiny bruises next day to remind me of Rick’s visit. My wish had come true, my lover somewhere on the far side of the world had paid me an astral visit. His body was travelling in another country, yet his soul had flown to me. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in Paris that night ? 144
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Adam was a gifted lover and very much a Leo. He was built like an athlete and seemed eager to try everything and live and live … He was a healthy young man and when I praised the act of love between two boys he got so horny that we did it all over again. He loved Orientals ; it occurred to me that at last I had a present for Barney, who had spoiled me for years and who had given me quite a lot of lovers. Adam wasn’t really my type, but was so handsome that I couldn’t possibly refuse him. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ! It was like the two of us were fucking her together, like we were just one person giving it to Vera. Never had I felt such complicity with Rick before. Vera was just our object, it could have been anyone. When it was over, to our mutual satisfaction, we laughed and freed ourselves and lay exhausted in the bed. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in town ? The gorgeous couple turned out to be David Bowie and his wife Angie. Keith and Anita recognised me from far away and invited me to their table and introduced me to everybody there. Stunning Bianca ignored me, like she ignored most women, but I thought she was great. Guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in London ? It wasn’t the most comfortable fuck I ever had, but one of the most unusual and exciting ones. My young man, a well-brought-up English boy, pressed my back to the tree ; if only he’d produced a rope to tie me up to it, one of my greatest fantasies would have come true. After a week of abstention my horny pussy was hungry and guess who was THE HAPPIEST GIRL in the whole of Guadeloupe when my stranger penetrated me with the kind of hard ivory prick possessed by redheads alone, a whiter shade of pale … 145
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‘REAL’ NAZIS Piotr Uklański The notorious Nazi Hanns Johst once said that whenever he heard the word ‘culture’, he reached for his gun. Every time I hear the word ‘Nazi’, I think of Stefan Grzelak, imprisoned in SSArbeitslager Friedrichshafen. He was my grandfather. We are Not Reconciled. We cannot change our grandfathers. We must not block out the memory of our enemies. Amnesia relegates images of evil into the land of fantasy. We might not be able to recognize the evil once it arrives. Since my first book The Nazis was published in 1999, a new form of ‘democratic fascism’ has reared its ugly head in elections throughout the world, dangerously propelling us towards autocracy in Poland, Hungary, Turkey and the US. Fascism persists across the decades and generations. ‘The existing narration presented the crimes committed by the Nazis en masse. How about the new narrative that extends to the fate of the individual and the individual dimension of the crime ?’ This question was recently posed by Piotr M A Cywiński, director of the Auschwitz-Birkenau 148
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Memorial and Museum. The dominant institutional prohibition against showing individual images of the perpetrators — exacerbated by the demographic change among those visiting the camps, now that most witnesses are deceased — results in hardly anyone knowing what real Nazis looked like. The contemporary viewing of images of Nazi perpetrators is disquieting, as our perception of these historical documents is haunted by fictional representations. We inexorably conflate cinematic phantasms with the images of real Nazis. In 1936 Agfa, a German company that exploited female slave laborers in a KZ Dachau satellite work camp, brought to market ‘a triumph of German chemistry’ : color slide film. It was subsidized by the state to make it affordable for average consumers. Color was intended for the people. Color was seen as a more accurate portrayal of reality; it offered an alternative to the stylized, often abstracted black-and-white images of Heinrich Hoffmann or Leni Riefenstahl. Finally, color photography was put to use by Hitler, who commissioned Walter Frentz to make thousands of glamorous studio portraits of Third Reich leaders and celebrated soldiers. These photographs were deployed to communicate that the Third Reich’s leaders were ‘normal’ people, made of flesh and blood. When Adolf Eichmann entered the courtroom in Jerusalem for the very first time in 1961, people were shocked. He had a blush of color on his face and seemed ‘terribly and terrifyingly normal.’ The incarnation of ultimate evil was in drag, portraying himself as an ordinary man, a nobody. There is no truth in representation.
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Pierre Leguillon, Barbara Fédier Oracles — Artists’ Calling Cards
Nº 216
With texts by 72 authors in English Softcover, 320 pages 123 color images 20 × 26.5 cm / 7 × 10 in. Design : Clovis Duran ISBN: 978-3-906803-16-6 EUR 150 | CHF 150
Taiyo Onorato / Nico Krebs Continental Drift
Nº 220
Softcover, 214 pages 130 color images 24 × 33 cm / 9 ½ × 11 ¾ in. Design : Hi, Megi Zumstein, Claudio Barandun ISBN: 978-3-906803-20-3 EUR 78 | CHF 78
Claudia Comte 40 × 40
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Softcover, 416 pages 1000 color images 20 × 40 cm / 7 ¾ × 15 ¾ in. With a text by Chris Sharp in English Design : Adeline Mollard, Elektrosmog ISBN 978-3-906803-27-2 EUR 83 | CHF 83
Keiichi Tanaami & Oliver Payne Perfect Cherry Blossom
Nº 228
Softcover, 80 pages 29 color images 28.5 × 38 cm / 11 ¼ × 15 in. Editors : STUDIOLO / Edition Patrick Frey Design : Teo Schifferli ISBN 978-3-906803-28-9 EUR 48 | CHF 48
Mélanie Veuillet Tools of Disobedience
Nº 229
Softcover, 116 pages 186 color images 22.5 × 30 cm / 10 × 13 in. With a text by Didier Fassin in English and French Design : Teo Schifferli ISBN 978-3-906803-29-6 EUR 38 | CHF 38
Anton Bruhin Dämonen Hardcover, 368 pages 171 color images 18 × 22.5 cm / 7 × 9 in. With a text by Michel Mettler in German and English Design : Marietta Eugster ISBN 978-3-906803-30-2 EUR 52 | CHF 52
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Billy Bühler, Dominique Frey SKUTER
Nº 231
Softcover, 348 pages 340 color images 15 × 20 cm / 6 × 7 ¾ in. Design : Teo Schifferli ISBN 978-3-906803-31-9 EUR 43 | CHF 43
Luca Schenardi Meyer spricht von Gratiskaffee
Nº 232
Softcover, 208 pages 170 B / W images 15 × 21 cm / 5 ¾ × 8 ¼ in. Design : Hi, Megi Zumstein, Claudio Barandun ISBN 978-3-906803-32-6 EUR 36 | CHF 36
Alex Hanimann Trapped
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Softcover, 350 pages 550 color images 21 × 28 cm / 8 ¼ × 11 in. With texts by Hans Rudolf Reust, Patrick Frey in German and English Design : Jonas Vögeli und Kurt Eckert ISBN 978-3-906803-33-3 EUR 60 | CHF 60
Jean Willi Steingesichter Softcover, 208 pages 98 color images 22 × 14 cm / 8 ½ × 5 ¾ in. With a text by Martin Suter in German and English Design : Marietta Eugster ISBN 978-3-906803-34-0 EUR 43 | CHF 43
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ALEX HANIMAN
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Thomas Krempke Das Flüstern der Dinge
Nº 235
Hardcover, 628 pages 600 color images 16.5 × 22 cm / 8 ¼ × 11 ½ in. With texts by Thomas Krempke in German Design : Marietta Eugster ISBN 978-3-906803-35-7 EUR 60 | CHF 60
Christoph Kappeler Josef Maria Schröder
Nº 237
Hardcover, 152 pages 153 color images 17 × 24 cm / 6 ½ × 9 ½ in. With texts by Christoph Kappeler, Ulrich Kinder, Michael T. Ricker in English and German Design : Hi, Megi Zumstein, Claudio Barandun ISBN 978-3-906803-37-1 EUR 43 | CHF 43
Laurence Rasti There Are No Homosexuals in Iran
Nº 238
Hardcover, approx. 136 pages Approx. 50 images 15 × 25 cm / 6 × 10 in. With texts in English and Farsi Design : Laurence Rasti & Neo Neo ISBN 978-3-906803-38-8 EUR 52 | CHF 52
Giorgio di Noto The Iceberg Hardcover, 128 pages 76 color images 16.5 × 24 cm / 6 ½ × 9 ½ in. Design : Nicolas Polli ISBN 978-3-906803-39-5 EUR 70 | CHF 70
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Rico Scagliola & Michael Meier years later …
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Softcover, 232 pages 160 color images 22 × 32 cm / 8 ½ × 12 ½ in. Design : Afrika — Florian Jakober & Michael Zehnder ISBN 978-3-906803-40-1 EUR 60 | CHF 60
Benedikt Reichenbach (Hg. / ed.) Pasolini’s Bodies and Places. Edited by Michele Mancini and Giuseppe Perrella Hardcover, 640 pages 1500 color images 22 × 21 cm / 8 ½ × 8 ½ in. Design : Benedikt Reichenbach ISBN 978-3-906803-41-8 EUR 78 | CHF 78
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Emil Michael Klein Paintings
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Hardcover, 72 pages 30 color images 25.5 × 35 cm /10 × 13 ¾ in. Design : Teo Schifferli ISBN 978-3-906803-42-5 EUR 48 | CHF 48
Mark Thomas Gibson Early Retirement Softcover, approx. 240 pages Approx. 220 images 23 × 34.5 cm / 9 × 13 ½ in. With a text by Mark Thomas Gibson in English Design : Teo Schifferli ISBN 978-3-906803-43-2 EUR 60 | CHF 60
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Musée Jenisch Stéphan Landry : Tout va bien
Nº 244
Softcover, 288 pages 200 color images 18 × 25.5 cm / 7 × 9 ¾ in. Design : Adeline Mollard, Elektrosmog ISBN 978-3-906803-44-9 EUR 52 | CHF 52
Francisca Silva 25 Memoranden Softcover, 52 pages 25 B / W images 21 × 11 cm / 8 ½ × 4 ½ in. Design : Teo Schifferli ISBN 978-3-906803-45-6 EUR 36 | CHF 36
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Kelly Beeman Window Shopping
Nº 246
With a text by J. W. Anderson in English Hardcover, 124 pages 55 color images 24 × 32 cm / 9 ½ × 12 ½ in.
WINDOW SHOPPING
Design : Krispin Heé ISBN 978-3-906803-46-3 EUR 52 | CHF 52
KELLY BEEMAN
Tania Willen and David Willen, Jörg Scheller Appetite for the Magnificent Softcover, 128 pages 23 color images 18 × 27 cm / 7 × 10 ½ in. Design : Prill Vieceli Cremers ISBN 978-3-906803-47-0 (DE) ISBN 978-3-906803-48-7 (EN) EUR 43 | CHF 43
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Walter Pfeiffer Drawings
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Softcover, 200 pages 300 color images 25 × 32 cm / 9 ¾ × 12 ½ in. With a text by Martin Jaeggi in English Design : Walter Pfeiffer with Marlon Ilg, Marietta Eugster ISBN 978-3-906803-49-4 EUR 78 | CHF 78
Veronika Minder (Hg. / ed.) Art Decor
ART DECOR
NR. 150 • E DITION PATRICK FREY • 2017 • Z ÜRICH
With texts and interviews in German Editor : Veronika Minder Softcover, 250 pages 300 color images 26 × 36 cm /10 ½ × 14 in. Design : Krispin Heé ISBN 978-3-906803-50-0 EUR 60 | CHF 60
ALFRED JOHNATHAN ‹BOB› STEFFEN
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Susi Wyss Guess Who Is the Happiest Girl in Town
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Hardcover, 800 pages 1000 color images 15 × 23 cm / 6 × 9 in. Text by Susi Wyss in English Design: Frank Hyde-Antwi and Katarina Lang ISBN 978-3-906803-51-7 EUR 52 | CHF 52
Piotr Uklanski Real Nazis
Nº 252
Hardcover, 260 pages 250 color images 25.3 × 18.8 cm / 9 ¾ × 7 in. Design : Hanna Williamson-Koller ISBN 978-3-906803-52-4 EUR 52 | CHF 52
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