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Was Pure Hell your first band? No... Pure Hell wasn't the 1st band I started in. My desire to play came at a time during the end of the sixties / early seventies, when AM radio was alive with everything from R-n-B, R-n-R, light electric acid Rock to the British invation in music. It was a bit different to me being interested in the most innovative approach. It was a time of experiment and real vision and culture. A lot of curiosity compared to today. My 1st band spun out of the post glam era. It was there whether people accepted it or not. I named my 1st band Pretty Poison after the movie with Tuesday Weld and Anthony Perkins. My drummer Spider (RIP) and I began as a rhythm section, but as it became obvious my input gave the concept to the band in my lyrics and compositions, I moved to the front and re-named the group Pure Hell, more aggressive as we moved to NYC. But that was the band when we 1st played to a live audience. Spider and I attended private schools in Rittenhouse Square center city Philadelphia, and it was a talent show at my high school Lincoln College Prep. This was also around the time Nancy Spungen began hanging at local clubs like Artimus, before she went to Colorado and eventually NYC. So Kenny did you know you would go punk what transpired that you went into punk rock as a genre ? Being from Philadelphia we were so close to the actual scene and business of the current trend of that day. We got hands on imports before the rest of the country coming out of New York or directly from across the ocean. As I said, the approach in the beginning was academic, listening to shite like Sid Barrett era Pink Floyd to Papa John Creech and Captain Beefheart and his Magik Band! But going into New York our finger was directly on the pulse, and 'punk rock' was more or less the audience of people who were into music that I just described. We were like four Jimi Hendrix's with the desire, vision, and talent to push our dream. It was simply a new spirit and cause created by the people who were living and breathing on the scene. Then when Curtis Knight brought in his Hendrix connection and experience, a plan to play it out including a European set into place Yeah; a then new spirit and cause, and for those whom weren’t there may know only fabricated sources. For instance that Swastika t-shirt designed by Malcolm McLaren or Vivienne Westwood is regalia for 'anti-racism' with the slogan 'no future' underlining it. We were known because we were on the front line of change during that period, and the British were more serious about it living under a monarchy. And an epic story indeed about that McLaren/Westwood t-shirt statement you were wearing! In your your face! Bravo! Fuck racism! Awesome, can you let us know if race was an issue for you guys? I think any field of opportunity especially one as enterprising as the entertainment / music business, can be a cut throat rat race. People 'will' use race as a last resort if it will gain them advantages. But from the inside out the inner circle of people who were, what we were about, comprised of an un-conventional movement,
consisting of multi-cultural, ethnical and sexual preference. I mean, I think it was a turn from the old beliefs and restrictions of the 20th century. I know the bands, I'm sure they dug you guys as equals jamming etc‌ I was wondering if you felt ignored or held back by white bands that were being signed during this time. I'm just curious about what you witnessed and felt concerning race and acceptance in those years. No. Our problem dealing with record labels with an interest stemmed from our own in - fighting. Curtis Knight wanted any major or indie label that was interested to back his Golden Sphinx label that our debut single was on. There was definite interest from labels like CBS when we got to Holland and England. The thing is we pre - date the hard-core skinhead genre that off sprung after 1980. There was the actual National Front and Teddy Boys over in Europe when we went there in 1978. Regardless we'd played with the Germs who in my book started the west coast hard core life style, at Brendan Mullen's the Masque' in 79, with pre-Black Flag Henry Rollins in the audience. After the original guys like the Sex Pistols and Dead Boys broke up with the Clash soon to follow by early 1980, all kind of minor sects came about full of skin heads and violence, and I'm sure that wasn't a direction your band should go. YOU WERE DEFINTALEY A PIONEER IN THE PUNK ROCK THE FIRST WAVE, thank you for addressing the race issue with me now back to your exploits! So how long did PURE HELL play from and after the break up or end what did you do musically when you were you still in NYC? After the death of Nancy Spungen and then Sid OD'd it was over for the initial meaning of what we all were about. The ultimate act of defiance was death itself I'll say, and it started to look ugly and people had burned with both ends of their candle. After Los Angeles with the Cramps, the Dead Boys, Wall of Voodoo and the Germs, and a 2nd tour of England with the end in effect previously here described, I got married when we returned to the states in 1980. We played a final show at Max's with Cheetah Chrome sitting in on a cover of 'Trash' and 'Steppin Stone' and that was it for the original format of Pure Hell until my drummer Spider and I re-kindled it in L.A. again during 1987. Between then I'd gone back to London with our agent Roy Fisher who had put me together with Bruce Whooley ( of the Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star / also of the Camera Club with Thomas Dolby) to record a demo for a solo project. The atmosphere was changing with the Lords of the New Church gothic scene and all around the industry, had finally caught on, and Lydon's reggae toned Public Image had made it all iconic. In 1987, I got together with Spider in L.A. where we began a row of recording sessions produced with Lemmy Kilmister, Mick Cripps, and Charley Clouser on separate occasions at different periods up to 1995 in both Santa Monica and Long Island. We'd played assorted places during those years including a roaming venue in west Hollywood called 'The Club with No Name' that we did with Steve Jones band then 'Fantasy 7'. Another place was 'English Acid' on Santa Monica Blvd we did with the 'Ultras'. Nothing so much outstandish except the fact of re-kindling old contact with Lemmy whom we'd met back in 78 London, re-charging the spirit along with us in the studio, as well as Mick Cripps coming off L.A.Gun success and Charley Clouser of NIN and the technical stuff he's known for. Even Ice T was in the picture sometime around the L.A. riots. Very cool, can tell us a Nancy and Sid story‌ something from the guys who started it, I saw a picture of Sid on stage with you guys in NYC. Looking back at it now; Sid and Nancy were merely kids, better yet two loose rouge cannons, running amuck in the sudden un-bridled success of the Sex Pistols. On their last leg grasping to Sid's 'character' of being violent, animosity towards them because of that, got in the way of them getting any real help they needed. The Chelsea Hotel was a playground to all the misfits. Bard the manager would allow for accommodation. They were moved to the room we actually had a week earlier when we played with them at Max's. Room 100 with Cynthia Ross and Stiv Bators in the room next to em'. They were moved there because one of them passed out in their previous room on the 3rd floor I think on tulinol or smack and burned the mattress up. That's how careless they could be yet they were normally friendly people at Leon's room and socializing with others in debauchery at the hotel. Well Kenny, you are a survivor of that crazy time, I bet you have a ton of crazy stories. What is the most memorable gig you were from that period and what other bands played (UK or NYC)?
One of my most adventurous trips was out there in L.A. 1979 with these French people attempting to put an event together called; 'Words can organize without war'. They had us in this studio garage in Alhambra with about 8 or 10 camping trailers inside. Angie Bowie was in one of them before we arrived, and somebody said it was her that left hygiene 'crabs' behind. Do you know what sort of 'crabs' I'm talking about!!!??? Anyway, Cheetah and Geeda were there, Joan Jett was around and then the French people moved the caravan out to the Mojave Desert!!! With Bowie...wow! omg, great history! Now I never been out there before and the neighboring studio across the drive way where they were making small scale models for movies or something, took pictures of everybody before we left as though we were going to meet up with the Manson family! Lol On the desert there were some whacked out experiences like Brian the guitarist of the Cramps taking acid and drawing skulls in the sand… Then, Bob Wire their drummer one night freaked me out because he had the little old French man, one of them was confined to a wheel chair, he had him on a hill at night with cactus terrain going down the hill saying to him; 'You cruddy old piece of shite!' I said 'BOB'!!! Why you wanna push the old French man down the hill!!!??? lol Did you? Turns out it was a jester, but we're out on the desert in the middle of Ridgecrest camped at a fairgrounds talking about 'words can organize without war'! lol … That went on for a month before we flew back east for our 2nd tour of England! Wow what a ride and even crazier ride…what a sight it must had been! SO IN ENGLAND WHAT CRAZINESS ENSUED? Let' see; well the first tour to both Amsterdam and Britain during the end of 1978, I was first of all baffled that drugs were legal in Holland. This was where all the confliction with Knight began to un-fold, because he felt right away he was losing his reign over us. Spider and I decided after a near physical argument, he started it with me after I stayed out all night with a girl. Right before we were to depart on the ferry the next morning, we planned to go around his threats with the assistance of our agent (Roy Fisher again). Our main show there was at the paradiso with Wilko Johnson. We were so amped up on Dutch speed when we played the Effenaar in Eindhoven my memory is a blur. But they were fantastic early times that stay with you. There were many high points in both British trips. Everyone was at our debut at the Music Machine in 78. That’s when Phil Lynott came over our flat and asked if we need his help in matters. Mick Taylor (ex - Rolling Stones) ex-wife Rose Taylor and daughter Chloe stayed at our place while we were there. I'll say the 2nd tour around had high lights like the Yorkshire Ripper at large when we played the Fan Club in Leeds. The the finale was with the U.K. Subs at a packed Lyceum, I will never forget. I’m speechless and can relate, so lets jump to today I know you are chronicling your story into a book can you give us the inside scoop… glad you survived and can remember the gigs and twisted tales, can’t wait to read it! I'm currently in progress of writing the 1st draft to be edited through a dear friend of mine, Teddie Dahlin in Norway, the author of 'A Vicious Love Story'. My goal in writing my memoirs and getting them out there, is for
anyone interested in rare exclusive literature, sparked by the fact that what I can recall now, I may not necessarily remember in the future. Incredible and mind blowing, let’s get this history out! It's an honor to talk with you, anything else? I'd like to refurbish my point on Henry Rollins being in the audience at the Masque in 79. He expressed the fact that it inspired him extremely and that he and Ian McKay (of Minor Threat) were searching for years to find a Pure Hell album. Actually when the 1978 recordings were finally put on vinyl and released by a label in Boston in 2006, Rollins provided the album crucial airplay on his show at indie 101.3. He is definitely not like Black Flag's unstable followers or colleagues that may have exploited the violent side of the hard-core punk genre. He had absolutely nothing to do at all with militant recruiting of a young generation via hate monger bands such as Screwdriver. Hey Kenny did you jam with Angie's band "The Front", Queens Mafia was they're hit. I believe I met her in SoCal, she came to my uncles firm in Palos Verde to design the LP cover which sadly never occurred. No, never jammed with her band back then, although my band and the Dead Boys would rehearse in the studio lot where the trailers were in Alhambra. Did you play the coconut teaser when you were you guys jamming shows in Los Angeles? They catered too your sound in those days No my band never played at the Coconut Teaser. We didn't really headine any venue instead we shared a few venues with someone then popular on the west coast. The show we did with (Sex Pistol guitarist) Steve Jones and his band Fantasy 7, brought back a little nostalgia. That's very cool, I remember the FANTASY 7 what venues did you play at? The venue with Fantasy 7 was the club with no Name. Wait I may have an article to show you. We were staying at a friend's place at one point on Mulholland Drive when we weren't residing at Holloway Drive and Sunset Blvd near the Roxy and The Whiskey. I know the area. my band was up and down the strip playing in those daze! We were staying at Jimmy Bain's house in Woodland Hills / Calabasas while he was on tour with Dio before WWIII. So we were hanging around the Rainbow crowd. We played the Roxy not long after Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan played there as well. Any stories including About Iggy Pop, did you guys cross paths musically? I met Iggy in Philadelphia. My and I my then wife went to see him as my ex- guitarist was opening for him in some other band. After shaking hands my wife looked at him (looking good I might say as a red head in tight red spandex) but in a drunken stupor asked: is that fuckin Iggy!!?? lol PURE HELL HOLLYWOOD TV / L.A. RIOT (WHAT WE' RE LIVING FOR) PURE HELL HOLLYWOOD TV DEBUT ON BASIL GOLD'S "LET'S ROCK-N-ROLL PURE HELL MUSIC
- Mike Spent, Fear & Loathing LB, 2013
The untamed, garage power-pop pulse of your latest cassette launches itself straight outta Brooklyn, and into the Geo Metro car tape deck with keen attention to understated production that really hits you in the face. Was the album just the songs you had to date or intentionally written for a full length? Intentionally, we chose the songs we felt captured our sound in congruence to our bands chronology, the direction we started, and the direction we are going towards. What inspired the “Tomboy (demo)” single? I wrote Tomboy because I was really inspired about the woman in my life. It’s actually inspired mostly by Karen, our drummer, who I envisioned as the subj ect of the song. The idea of her being a sweet hearted, tender young girl growing up in the rough part of the city, and dealing with it all. How long has everyone been playing garage rock n roll and did the band originate in Brooklyn? Erin, Lenny and Karen have all been in numerous bands and have been playing music for years. This is my first band. The band did originate here in Brooklyn. I met Lenny, the guitarist, and we started j amming and working on songs we had both previously written, and not shortly after Karen and Erin j oined us. There is a really nice and dirty collection of demos on Sound Cloud, is this a conscious effort to present the band in the raw, whereas bands of the underground, in the past, really wanted “clean & polished” (yuck) recordings. Yuck is right. I hate clean and polished. Most of those recordings our bass player, Erin, recorded. I love the rough sound, it gives it a lot more character and keeps it
real. We really don’t like High fi or clean and polished sounds at all. That polish sound doesn’t capture emotion and is devoid of any rawness or passion in my opinion. How important is image and style to the band? Well the imagery is all of the art that I’ve been doing for years. I think it’s a huge part of the band. It represents a lot of the lyric al content and is largely my inspiration. I think the whole mystical/gyspy aesthetic is a part of my heritage and that directly influences anything I do that is artistic. You mean the bands physical image? I mean. We don’t really care about our image in any different way than most bands. We wanna look like ourselves and feel comfortable, which we always do. Not gunna lie though when I look at my bandmates im always thinking, damn these are some fine looking ladies with fly style. ) Are there any artists from the 90s lo-fi movement that were an influence in the creation of Habibi? Hmm not really. Honestly there is definitely influence from everywhere. I couldn’t name one specific band, we all have a wide variety of musical taste. Personally for me when I write music I try not to listen to music that can easily be influenced because of the similarity in sound. So basically for the past few years I listen to nosier music like Les Rallizes Denudes or more experimental music like Can, and 90s hip hop. What’s the difference in having a cassette released of your S/T album as opposed to the Vinyl/CD launch date of October? No difference I guess that’s j ust how Burger intended to do it. How do you rate the West Coast in your recent tour out here? Did you miss home or did you want to stay (maybe)? Man, the west coast was strange. I mean a total trip for me. I think we all had a great time. California was really beautiful. I was really feeling all the beautiful Hispanic women in LA, I think if the driving wasn’t so hectic and there was an actual public transportation system as effective as NYC maybe id consider moving there. It’s much more slow and mellow which I liked. For the most part though we came back missing the east coast. It’s home to all of us. Do girls have just as much fun on the road as the boys? I’ve been on the road with boys and honestly I think we have way more fun. Maybe it’s j ust our band specifically and not boys verse girls . But we always make things fun and laugh till someone pees their pants . Ha- ha, the best night of tour we were in Portland, and we partied with the girls from La Luz, sang karaoke and raged in a tiki bar, I hit on a lesbian, it was pretty hilarious and more fun than I’ve had with any guys I have been with on the road.
What about the rock n roll drinking and partying scene? Is it lame or do you have a good time? Man, it’s not lame personally I’m j ust not equipped for it anymore, I’m like the first one to fall asleep. Karen can rage with the best of them and Erin too. It’s fun when it’s my friends in bands I haven’t seen for a while. But sometimes after a show I j ust wanna crash and wake up and take a shower so I can feel alive the next day ha. How would you describe your sound to someone who hasn’t checked out your music yet? I always have a hard time explaining what we sound like. Basically I j ust say garagey, Motown- y girl group with a lot of harmonies and simple melodies that are pretty and get stuck in your head. Are you currently writing for the next record and do you think the band is going to open up to a bigger audience? I hadn’t written for a while because I was so focused on recording and mixing, but finally now I’ve got back into the creative head space and yes, we’ve been working on new material. I definitely hope that we do bring in a larger audience with our record debut, I definitely want to reach as many people as we can. The new record is awesome all around and I love that it’s not easily categorized, the band follows through with this style in its videos and interview appearances, the drinking game is my favorite one. What’s it like occupying your own area in the musical spectrum? Like having our own sort of genre? I mean I like that sound. I really want to explore, I want to write songs go in as many directions as we can. I love that we can something more punk then something more psychedelic, I liberating to be able to go with whatever you feel.
we aren’t tied down to one in my native language Farsi, and play a poppy, catchy song, then think it’s really neat and
Favorite song of all time? Whoa, that’s so hard. I certainly have a few, but the one that’s coming to me now is After Laughter Comes Tears by Wendy Renee What’s your favorite Habibi song? Man that’s such a personal question haha. My lyrical content is pretty heavy. I would have to probably say Let Me In. the song captured the exact mood that I felt and still gives me chills when I hear it, because I hear the emotion of it all.
I Believe in UFOs
- Mike Spent
THIRD PHASE OF MOON ON YOUTUBE HAS LOGGED OVER 75 MILLION VIEWS COLLECTIVELY THE COUSIN BROTHERS ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT THEY SOLICIT VIDEOS FROM AROUND THE WORLD , SOME HAVE CRIED FOWL TOO MANY CGI VIDS ..BUT LIKE THEM OR NOT THEY ARE A FOORCE TOO BE RECKONED WITH! IN THE UFO FEILD I HAVE FOLLOWED THEM SINCE THE BEGINNING I HAVE SEEN SOME INCREDIBLE VIDEOS AND A FEW DUDS EITHER WAY I RECOMMEND THEM IF ANYTHING AS ENTERTAINING AND I WAS VERY STOKED TO INTERVIEW THE BROTHERS THEY HAVE MY SUPPORT KEEP IT GUYS FOCUS ON THE TRUTH AND BROADCAST! LETS HELP BRING DISCLOSURE TO THE UFO PHENOMENON !- mike spent
then suddenly stopped on a dime then released a bright light beam into the ocean. Then it took off into outer space. Later that Night after the experience both my brother and I had a Sureal dream about being abducted by a Bright and HUGE Flying Saucer!
BOTH OF YOU HAD THE SAME DREAM? DO YOU HONESTLY FEEL/THINK YOU WERE TAKEN OR that THEY COMMUNICATED WITH YOU?
Interview with Blake and Brent Cousins Not Sure? But the dream was intense, and it was strange that it happend the night we saw our 1st UFO!
HOW LONG YOU GUYS LIVING ISLAND STYLE IN HAWAII? We arrived on Oahu from L. A. in 1973 when we were 3 years old COOL AND NEVER LEFT HAWAII? Moved to the Big Island in 81 then took off to LA in 91 then came back to Hawaii After Rodney King Riots LOL WOW HEAVY TIMES HERE IN LA DURING THAT PERIOD WERE YOU GUYS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, DID THE RIOTS ACTUALLY AFFECT YOU TWO? We saw over a thousand building burning while driving to downtown LA with Military Tanks and Armed National Guard it was a dangerous situation indeed!
DO YOU THINK THEY THE UFOs ARE EXTRATERRESTRIAL OR USA GOVERNMENT OR BOTH? Very much I Think Both are related. Hickam air force base was close by, but the obj ect was doing maneuvers that are impossible for today’s aircraft. Reversed engineered alien technology is very possible, and what better place to experiment this, other than in the middle of the pacific ocean. . .
WHEN AND WHERE WAS YOUR FIRST UFO SIGHTING?
HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD SECRET KNOWLEDGE OR MILITARY CRAFT SECRETS ANYTHING EXCLUSIVE YOU WOULD SHARE WITH ME AND MY READERS?
8 years old both my brother and I were awakened by our dad around 11pm we lived on Oahu North Shore Laniakea Beach our dad said "They're Back" looking out into the pacific ocean we noticed a bright LIght doing Zig Zags motions we estimated it was about 10 miles a sec. The Bright Obj ect
We have j ust spoken with the sixth man to have walked on the moon astronaut Dr Edger Mitchell, and we have yet to release the exclusive interview. . . But what he has told us is that he flew over Area 51, and believes that Bob Lazar did work in Area 51 and the story Bob Tells is
real, and believes that there is a possibility that there are bases on the far side of the moon! This is the 1st time anybody has heard about this…and remember that No Pilot had ever been allowed to fly over Area 51…
AND KEPT MOVING FORWARD. ALOT OF CGI CLAIMS ETC CAME IN. CAN YOU DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE ? The early stages of Thirdphaseofmoon, we explored some incredible outrageous videos, and believe very likely some UFO fake videos may have fallen thru the cracks. . . That being said, we at thirdphaseofmoon, are not the j udges of what is real and what is not, we simply post and share to the world, and let the people decide. But we have been working diligently, for the past few years to weed out the obvious hoaxes out of the site , and believe me we get a ton of them on a weekly basis. We seek out to interview the witnesses, get information like when and where, and make sure they seem credible, before we post. WHY IS BRENT BEHIND THE SCENES MOSTS CLIPS?
HOW DID YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THE NAME THIRD PHASE OF MOON? Thirdphaseofmoon. . . . Now that a good question! In 2000 we released a movie in the state of Hawaii "The Night Marchers" Based on local legend of Ancient Hawaiian ghost Warriors protecting there Kings "Mana" Spirit! It was based on a documentary crew in search of video evidence of the hawaiian ghost. the crew disappeared and they were Never seen again! The Movie broke Box Office records in the entire state of Hawaii! ! Over 50 theaters, and to this day it still has not been beaten. . . any way The Night Marchers apparently only come out on the "Hua Kai Po" or The Third Phase of the Moon!
Brent is an award filmmaker ! Who else is going to hold the camera? LOL. . . Though don't be surprised to see both Brent and I on some Future Episodes! RIGHT ON, I HAVE SEEN HIM IN A COUPLE of EPISODES ! I KNOW TWINS ARE TIGHT, DO YOU TWO LIVE TOGETHER? ACT AS ONE ? ( I have two good friends that are twins, they cannot be apart) ARE YOU GUYS LIKE THAT? As we always say two heads are better than one! The Cousins Brothers team is a great example of that! We bounce ideas off like nobody’s business! We wish everybody in the world had a twin, somebody you can trust and know you always have somebody to watch your back! •
SICK! KILLER! …SO CAN WE SEE IT? IS IT ON YOUTUBE? I WANT TO GO INTO YOUR FILM CAREERS ETC https: //www. youtube. com/watch? v=H4UGft7tyMg AND I LOVE THE NAME AS SOON AS I HEARD IT AND WATCHED A VIDEO. I JOINED YOUR YOUTUBE SITE THIRD PHASE OF MOON. I HAVE BEEN a SUBSCRIBER FOR YEARS NOW! I HAVE SEEN YOU TWO GROW AND THE SITE EVOLVE! YOU GUYS HAVE A FILM BACKGROUND in VIDEO EDITING AND IN THE BEGINNING PEOPLE WERE CRITICAL OF SOME OF THE VIDEOS. BUT YOU GUYS HELD YOUR INTEGRITY
SO IN YOUR OPINION WHAT IS THE BEST VIDEO YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN? Now thats a hard one to answer. . . . We have over 800 ufo videos on Thirdphaseofmoon, and it would be unfair for me to publicly state which video is the best! But what I can say is that, There are some great UFO Hunters out there! In addition, the Footage keeps getting better and better with everybody out there armed with their HD cameras. I would suggest watching the Best of Videos that we post monthly, always something amazing! At the end of every month we post a collection of videos that we receive from around the world, those are my favorites! HOW MANY SUBSCRIBERS DO YOU GUYS HAVE ? IN ADDITION, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIRD PAHASE OF MOON? 110, 589 subscribers, 73, 384, 147 views and We want to take Thirdphaseofmoon to where NO man or woman has gone before! The possibility that one day we could be the place for full Disclosure in regards to E. T. and UFOs! We feel that Thirdphaseofmoon will provide one of these days THE smoking gun evidence that we are not alone! For Example maybe Brent will film me flying in a real Flying Saucer! • ANY LAST WORDS OR THOUGHTS, ANYTHING TOO SAY TO DETRACTORS OR SKEPTICS? There will always be skeptics, and detractors to this subj ect, but we at Thirdphaseofmoon do not let it slow us down. The fact that we are the TOP UFO Channel on youtube, makes us work even harder to get the word out! The amazing feedback we receive on a daily basis keep us going and the base keeps getting larger! We call them the "ThirdphaseofKnights" correspondents around the world, it’s quite humbling! It makes us feel like we don't want to let them down, so we continue on in search of the unknown! HEY TODAY IS 9- 11 WOULD YOU LIKE TOO SAY SOMETHING CONCERNING THE ANNIVERSARY DO YOU GUYS THINK IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB? ALTERNATIVELY, DO YOU BELIEVE THE MAINSTREAM VIEW OF EVENTS?
( KUDOS/PRAYERS TOO THE INNOCENTS THAT PERISHED AND THEIR FAMILIES TRULY A SAD DAY IN AMERICA LETS NEVER FORGET AND ALWAYS SEEK THE TRUTH EVEN IF ITS UGLY AND CONTROVERSIAL) The evidence in regards to 911 speaks for itself, that day the world woke up! it wasn't no surprise that an event would happen to slowly take our rights away! Whatever did happen that day, it worked for the bad guys! The good thing is that people know to question our government and maybe j ust maybe that could change the world in a better way…Keep your eyes on the skies and will see you Next Time. . . .
Know seemed to take on a more serious vibe. What led up to the EP and darker side of life perspective that was present on “Domestic Violenceland”? Tim: I think that was right after Chavez got married
The band has a huge discography of CD/Vinyl from the past decade that really defines the Southern California punk rock sound not heard on commercial radio. What’s the latest release and where does the band stand in 2013? Tim: Our latest release was the DICTORIA 7" released on Hostage records 2011. We have four new songs recorded, we just need to mix n master them. Two songs for a 7" release on Underground Medicine - RAPID PULSE RECORDS and the other two songs for a 7" I think will be on Modern Action Records. They should be out by the end of year or early 2014. John: Prior to that we released the Incest and Pestilence full length LP on Modern Action Records. Right now we are working on the next recording. We already have four songs in the can and we’re gearing up to fill that out. Throughout the years, are your views on American/Punk culture still the same or do you feel the band has “mellowed” out like some others in the genre with wives, kids etc.? Tim: I am still as pissed off as i was 20 years ago. We never were a traditional band as far as touring and press packs, so we couldn't mellow any more as far as playing goes. We do have wives and kids now, so it makes it harder to schedule shows and practice. Except for Guitardo, he is single with no children. He has not mellowed. I feel the angst is still in the music we write when we do get together. John: I don’t see our attitudes as any softer than they were 20 years ago when Smogtown first came together. Time always allows for a different perspective but we still maintain our raucous ways. Kids and wives have been part of the Smogtown Equation. One of my favorite Smogtown releases was the double EP “All Wiped Out”, cool tracks like Squares and I Don’t
Chavez: We were just making songs and we took everything we had, as it looked like we were done as a band at the time. I write every lyric right before I’m about to sing it. The song “I don’t know” is about not knowing what a song is about, in that I’m improvising or scatting on the spot. It’s a subconscious stream of thought that just appears when it’s time for me to write and record. So I ask me, what is my philosophy? “Squares” is a love song to my wife, I ripped it off from a weird WHO song called “Circles”, so I thought what about “Squares”?... “You’ll be observed”, is based upon when I moved to San Clemente, a stop sign was out there, and some workers nailed a “neighborhood-watch” sign on it proclaiming “You’ll be Observed”. The Domesticviolenceland LP was more of a style I was doing, writing wise. The concept usually comes after; it’s an involuntary conjuring of the brain while I’m coming up with vocals on the spot. The ideas just flow and seem to turn into the “concept” later. Tim always wants to know what the song is about, I don’t even know until after I run through it a few times. John: One of the best things about Smogtown is that Chavez has the ability to see what is going on in the daily lives of all of us that make up the collective society that we share and articulate it in a way that so many of us can relate to. Lyrical topics flow in relation to life experience. My first introduction to the band as a full-scale punk rock machine was your debut LP, “Fuhrers of the New Wave”. When I arrived to California, my guide, maybe not the best, haha, were the landmarks and hangouts of local origin mentioned on the album in venomous poetry. What is the “real story” behind the legendary debut? Tim: Sex, Drugs, Rock and birth control or something like that. Chavez: The story behind the album is that a group of young teenagers has a rock n roll band, hang out with a well to do girl, Judy (Judy is a Model). She dies and the local community blames them, and blasts them like cancer in the various locations, throughout the lyrics. Including Harbor Boulevard, this is where the action takes place. The original album was sequenced out of order. The original order was Teenage and ended with Fuhrers of the New Wave…. However, the record company decided that the re-sequenced order would move more copies. John: America came out of World War II with a new model of life and society. We were sold a narrative that focused
on the migration out of the urban centers and establishing
What events growing up, inspired you to form Smogtown? What was the most influential band or event that really got your blood boiling in your teenage years? Tim: For me I have always gotten into trouble questioning authority and bending the rules. When I started listening to punk rock i felt like I belonged to something different than what the ignorant masses were into. Punk rockers are just better.
a domestic sphere that attained perfection based on the acquisition of consumer goods and a realization of home ownership. Feminism rallied against the trappings of the domestic sphere but our main source of information, our manual if you will, was the television and it didn’t give us much in the way of instruction on how to adjust to this emerging paradigm shift. In fact, television continued to push traditional family concepts and we saw a rise of nostalgia programming such as Happy Days which served as a narrative telling us that if we deviate from the path that the planners laid out for us we’re going to be in trouble and we had better go back to the model of yesterday. Punk rock as a whole was a rebellion against the first world model of civilization and Fuhrers of the New Wave came out of that mindset. The kids of the baby boomers weren’t afraid of deviating from the prescribed narrative and refused to be trapped into an unfulfilling life of consumption and conformity.
John: Not that anyone ever gets tired of masturbating but after 3 or 4 years of doing it you start to wonder if there is anything more to life and that’s when I think most people start bands than everyone else. Is the band “locals only”? Why?
This was the introduction of the first punk rock concept album, are you still following the concept album format with your new releases? Tim: Not so much, I think "Fuhrers" was the only release that Chavez intended to be a concept album. Chavez: I usually don’t have one, it turns into one after the recording process is completed, coincidental to some degree. John: Haha. I think you might have some argument from some folks about the “first” part of that claim but we’ll let the public weigh in on that. As far as we go, all of the Smogtown albums follow a conceptual narrative that parallels the collective lens of society. Chavez is an amazing autodidact. He is a voracious reader and consumes mass quantities of history but unlike many historians he isn’t trapped in a backwards view of life, only able to analyze what has happened. He knows and respects the past but he also sees history as it happens and Smogtown lyrics represent the documentation of that.
Tim: Kinda, but every spot has the Locals who get it. John: I would say Smogtown is a locals only band but in a way that isn’t bound by one specific regional geographic spot. I think the message of Smogtown resonates with a lot of locals in their own spot whether it is Laguna Hills California, Towson Maryland, Marietta Georgia, or any other location that resulted from that Cold War exodus from the urban centers. The last time we were on the road we had this running joke whenever we would pop over a hill and see a shopping area with a Kohl’s, Target, Borders, Bedbath and Beyond, Aaron Bros., someone would say “oh look, Aliso Viejo” and we all thought that was the funniest thing but what it really indicated is that there is a lot of sameness or conformity wherever we would go in this country and it is those areas that I think you’re going to find people that really will grab the Smogtown message.
Do you affiliate yourself with the LA/OC scenes at all? What’s the difference between the scenes of the two areas? (feel free to bash) Tim: I think we are part of both LA/OC scenes. More OC since that is where we started, although the OC scene is sucking lately. Since you want us to bash, the LA scene has always seemed to be people that moved to LA from somewhere else to be cool. John: When I think LA scene I am talking about downtown and Hollywood and maybe some of the adjacent hipster spots such as Silverlake and Echo Park. The valley, which is still city of Los Angeles as is that stretch running down to San Pedro and the port, I don’t consider LA Scene. Really, have you been to Reseda or Agoura Hills lately? Places like that are just as desperate pockets of suburbia as most of Orange County. That Repo Man clip on Fuhrers of the New Wave is not just a random sound bite. Tract housing is doom, annihilation. The bands that come out of those areas carry that message where the LA scene bands are riding the upswell of the new Urban decadence. Heck we might even have another “roaring 20’s” coming up and the music that comes out of that is riding the ideal of prosperity and getting fat. Those people fled the suburbs and they think they found the answer to happiness and if they look backwards they’re going to see the inevitable which is the despair that will result when the decadent wave comes crashing down as it did in 1929. These things are cyclical. In your classic song “Bad Vibrations”, you nail the claustrophobic California lifestyle in all of its grotesque glory. Are bad vibes still brewing in the state? Tim: Oh yes! People hate each other here in southern CA. Especially in Orange County, bad vibes are easy to catch. John: Life is dynamic. To stay static is an impossibility and various factions all pick and choose what they want to stay the same and what they want to move and that’s where we have the negotiation. An easy example of that is look at the issues of social security and healthcare. The Right Wingers want to change social security and keep healthcare as is while the Lefties want the opposite, change healthcare and don’t touch the social security safety net. While that song doesn’t specifically address those issues it does capture the essence of the negotiation Will Ray Chavez ever play piano on one of my Prostitutes tracks like he promised? Tim: Yes! you just have to bug him constantly when you want him to do something. John: Of course. He is a classically trained pianist. Or is it trained classic penis. I get those two things confused
What’s the difference between OC girls and Long Beach girls? Tim: Most OC girls are focused on appearance and wealth, and the LB girls just want to party. John: More LBC girls are ok if their dude drives a dodge dart… What are the band’s current chosen haunts and things to do when not punk rocking out? Tim: I like to surf as much as I can in my free time. Then walk down to Knuckleheads my local dive to watch some crappy band and drink beer. John: Any place that has beer The movie SOCAL SCENE 1977-2010 features Smogtown, how does the band feel about being included and has this reignited a new audience of fans for the band? Tim: We are glad to be included in that film. It has brought us some new fans and I think it will continue to do so. John: I could name 50 other bands that had the right to be in that movie just as much as we did so it’s an honor that Michael Augello put us in that movie. He is someone who gets what is really important about the energy of the punk rock scene and particularly the live show. While we all love records there is a certain power of being part of the ephemeral experience of a punk rock band as the lay down their set. No apologies. No excuses. Just what is real. Wrapping it up, what does Smogtown have to say to the world? Tim: SMOG CITY WAVERS will Rule the wasteland! John: Destiny is inevitable… Chavez: Pedal to the metal… -K.M
A Vicious Love Story THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF MY 3 MONTH EXPOSE' OF AUTHOR TEDDIE DAHLIN - FIRST OFF AN EXCERT FROM HER BOOK "A VICIOUS LOVE STORY" HER SHORT ROMANCE WITH SID IN 1977! Do not presume anything she was not a groupie or a Nancy! She was an innocent kid just like Sid Vicious and her story is more than ordinary… NEXT I WILL REVIEW IN THE COMING MONTHS THE SECOND BOOK BY TEDDIE "FAST LIVING THE REAL Story OF GARY HOLTON" HE WAS SINGER OF THE UK PROTO PUNK BAND "THE HEAVY METAL KIDS" .SO WE START WITH AN EXCERPT THIS MONTH PLEASE KEEP TUNED !-
Mike Spent “II was 16 years old and the translator for the Norway leg of the Scandinavian tour 1977. Sid had joined the Pistols 4 months earlier on a trial basis. He didn’t know how long he would be allowed to play with them at the time. Tore is the Norwegian Promoter, who I worked for. The book is speckled with comments from people who were there, such as Roadent the Roadie and lots of others.”-
Teddie Dahlin, 2013 Tore and I entered the Phoenix hotel, which is in the centre of Trondheim, through the main entrance. It is a large six-floor building, dating back to 1914, and built in the New Baroque style. In 1977 it was a sleazy and shabby place, facing the central market square. We’d seen a white van parked outside when we arrived and there were a lot of people in the small reception area. The hotel is known as the local knocking shop and not a place I had ever set foot in before. As we walked in, I saw two journalists and a photographer lurking around John Lydon and Steve Jones, trying to get them to talk. They both looked sullen and uncooperative. Steve was wearing tight jeans, a shirt that had most of the buttons open, revealing his chest almost all the way down to his naval, and a large military-style, dog-tag necklace. He seemed very confidant and looked me over from the roots of my hair to my toes as we entered the hotel. One guy was fast asleep on a red sofa by the reception desk. He had a black leather jacket on that looked like it was a size too small for him and new Levi’s 501 jeans. I knew they were new because they were dark blue, so the colour hadn’t bled out of them yet. His T-shirt had crept up to reveal a flat, hairy stomach and he was wearing a heavy padlock on a thick chain around his neck. His short, dark hair stood on end and looked strange to me since most guys wore their hair long at the time. Three guys were sitting on some chairs to the side of the reception desk, looking bored. One was thin with dark ginger hair. The other was taller and darker, and the last guy was very blonde. I wasn’t sure if the blonde guy was with the band, as he looked Nordic. The first thing that struck me about these people was how different they looked to anyone else I knew. They all had short hair. John Lydon and the sleeping guy had theirs standing on end, which looked very strange and outlandish in my opinion. John’s was dyed quite red, and it made him look scary and strangely insane. The guys looked me over, disinterestedly. The ginger guy stood up, pointed to his watch and sullenly said, “What time do you call this then?” It wasn’t a question!
I realized they were part of the entourage, but I had no idea who they were. I tried to look calm and confident, and older than I was. I smiled at the ginger guy, but he didn’t smile back. He seemed annoyed with us for being late and didn’t seem interested in chit-chat. I don’t think they’d waited for us more than 15 minutes at the most, so I found their behavior a little strange, but I didn’t say anything. Tore had said “Hi” to them and was trying to negotiate with the reception on how many rooms they had actually booked; the receptionist had to get the manager to help out. So things were taking time and there was nothing for me to do.. The guy who was asleep had his black boots on the red sofa, but nobody seemed to notice or even care. Tore was finally making some headway with the rooms, and John Lydon and Steve Jones were hovering over him, like they both wanted to make sure the other didn’t get a better room. The hotel wanted the band on the top floor, on their own, away from the otherguests. Their hell-raising reputation obviously preceded them and the manager seemed wary of having them there at all. I had been standing beside Tore the whole time, and now he turned to everyone and said loudly, “This is Teddie. She’s my assistant, and if you need anything and I’m busy then you can talk to her. She is also bilingual, so she will help with translating with my crew, who are waiting for us at the Student Union.” I was pleased about being called his assistant. It made me feel important. I put on my brightest and most professional smile, and said, “Hi boys,” but they totally ignored me. I blushed and felt stupid. John Lydon looked at me as if I was a bad smell and then started a heated discussion with Steve Jones about who would get the suite. There was only one available on the top floor. No one was backing down, so I could see this was going to be a lengthy procedure. I’m pretty sure they argued continuously about it for the best part of 20 minutes. I felt like I was in the way, so I went over to the red sofa and sat by the sleeping guy’s feet. I lit up a cigarette and waited for Tore to get everyone checked in, so we could go to the concert venue where Tore’s roadies and technicians were waiting for us. As I was watching John and Steve’s argument continue, the guy on the sofa stirred a little. He had been lying on his back, snoring quietly. His black leather jacket was open and, as I mentioned before, his dark brown, spiky hair looked strange to me as boys I knew at the time had it much longer. His hands were dirty, and I could see nail polish that was chipped and partly scraped off. John, Steve and Paul Cook went outside to get their pictures taken, and to be interviewed by a few local newspapers. Roadent and Boogie waited patiently on their chairs, looking a bit bored and tired. ROADENT: I got my name because someone said that when I was drunk I looked like a rat, so they called me Rodent. Then as I became a roadie it became Roadent the roadie. Just silliness really. Meanwhile, I was left alone on the sofa with the sleeping guy. He lay still for a while, andthen suddenly opened his eyes and looked straight at me without moving a limb. He didn’t say anything to begin with, just stared, like he either suddenly didn’t know where he was or was trying to work out who I was. I ignored him, but it made me smile that he was watching me, very intently. After what felt like five minutes, but probably wasn’t that long, he smiled at me, warmly. I smiled back, but kept smoking, and tried to just look
look straight ahead and ignore him. He kept staring and I found myself smiling to myself, thinking him a little strange. He suddenly sat up and yawned. “Can we share that?” he asked, pointing to my half-finished cigarette. I handed him my cigarette and he thanked me, before taking a couple of drags and passingit back to me. I did the same and gave it to him again. I had heard about the Sex Pistols as a band, and Johnny Rotten being the vocalist and front man, but I had no idea who the sleeping chap was. To me, he was just one of the English guys and because he wasn’t outside being interviewed, I instantly assumed he was a roadie. He could have been anyone. I had seen a picture of the Sex Pistols in a music magazine, but it was from the previous year, and featured Glen Matlock as bassist, although I didn’t know it at the time. I just didn’t recognise this guy from that photo. I liked his smile and we started talking as if we’d known each other for a long time. You know how you sometimes meet someone you connect with straight away? We just clicked. It’s the only way I can think of to describe it. We were instantly comfortable with each other and I felt like I’d known him for ages, even though we had only just met. I felt that I couldtrust him, and I think the feeling was mutual because we were totally open with each other from the very first second we talked. He spoke slowly in a quiet voice with a deep cockney accent. He also looked pale and tired. “Damn, I’m shattered,” he said, as he took a long drag on my cigarette and ran his hand through his hair, making it stand on end, unevenly. “I spent the whole fucking night dozing in a chair in Oslo.” He stretched his long legs out,readjusted himself and yawned. “I fell asleep.” He laughed as if I hadn’t realised this. “Why didn’t you go to bed?” I asked. He smiled at me again, as if we had shared a private joke and said, “Steve brought a bird up to a party in my room and they took my bed.” I smiled back at him as he handed me my cigarette. “So, why didn’t you just ask Steve for the key to his room and go to sleep there?” I took a couple of drags on what was left of the cigarette and then put it out in the ashtray on the table. I looked for another in the Marlboro packet in my bag, only to find it was empty. “I dunno. Didn’t think about that. I thought I’d sleep in the van on the way up, but I justcouldn’t get comfortable. I’m knackered. The hotel in Oslo was crap and this one looks like it is too. I’ve stayed in better fucking squats in London than this shit. Got any more fags?” I shook my head, pointing to the empty Marlboro packet on the table. His voice was quiet and the sentences came out slowly. It somehow seemed that he was weighing his words when he talked to me. The sentences were packed with swear words, which I wasn’t used to, but I wasn’t offended. It just felt strangely honest. I told him about the argument between Steve and John as a way of making conversation, and he laughed. “Yeah, those two disagree about a lot of stuff,” he said disinterestedly, while looking into my eyes with amusement. “So, are you staying here at the hotel or are you a fan come here to welcome us?” he asked. “No, I’m not a fan, sorry. I work for Tore. I’ll be helping with translating and stuff,” Iexplained. He nodded and seemed pleased with my answer.. The rest of the band trooped back into the reception area, and John and Steve were still arguing about who got the suite. I went over to buy a packet of cigarettes and I could feel the guy’s eyes burning on the back of my head. You know how you can feel someone staring at you without actually seeing them. I remember thinking how thankful I was that I hadn’t worn the frumpy skirt and bun.
It was finally decided that Sid and Paul would share a double room. They would have to share a double bed since no twin rooms were available. It didn’t seem to bother anyone, as no one protested. Boogie, the English tour manager, and Roadent, the roadie, would also be sharing, but they needed a family size room with a sleeper sofa for some reason, which Tore arranged. Again, the only room available had a king size bed, but no one seemed to be bothered. “Why do you need a bigger room?” John asked Roadent with a sneer. “Debbie and Tracey are coming, and we said they could share with us,” Roadent answered.Boogie nodded in agreement. John seemed satisfied with this answer, but he still wasn’t giving up the fight for the suite and turned back to Steve again. Steve didn’t look at all pleased that the girls who Roadentmentioned were coming. He shrugged his shoulders in annoyance at Roadent and Boogie,before turning his attention back to the suite fight. I don’t think Tuna, the Swedish tour manager, was at the hotel while this was taking place as I have little memory of him being there at all. However, I believe he was the only person who could have driven the van. I remember he later told me he had friends in Trondheim and he might have stayed with them. Tuna had big lips and a wide mouth. He liked the sound of his own voice and would blabber on for ages, hogging the conversation, usually about stuffthat we didn’t give a rat’s arse about. The boys simply referred to him as Bollocks-chops behind his back. I stood beside Tore, John and Steve while I paid for my cigarettes, and I was getting a little fed up of the argument. “Oh for God’s sake, can you two agree on this or we’ll be here all day. It’s childish. Toss a coin or something, and be done with it,” I said, a little coldly. I noticed Roadent and Boogie sit up, and suddenly pay attention to what I’d said. They were smiling at me and nodding to each other. I think John and Steve were surprised at first that I actually dared talk to them at all, and they seemed a little taken back by my rather rude tone. They looked at each other, unsure how to interpret what I’d said, and then at Tore, not knowing what to do. Tore backed me up by not saying anything at all and just shrugging his shoulders. I think he was as sick of their feud as I was, but was too polite to actually say what we had both been thinking. I was impatient to get to the Student Union and get stuck in with the rigging. Steve looked at me intently, as if surprised at first, and then he smiled warmly. “She’s got a point,” he said. “Okay, just to end this, you get the suite now and I get my own double on condition I get a suite when we get back to Sweden.” They both agreed. “Thank you. Now that wasn’t so hard, was it?” I said, taking my cigarettes back to the red sofa. I offered one to the guy who had been sleeping and was now laughing at what had just taken place. “What?” I asked, referring to his broad smile. “Nothing,” he said, shaking his head and smiling. “Jesus wept,” I giggled.. He thanked me and took a cigarette, as did I. He quickly pulled a lighter from the pocket ofhis leather jacket when he saw me rummaging in my handbag, looking for matches. He stared at me again when he offered me a light and I found his attention a little too intense because he wasn’t actually looking at where he was putting the flame; it was as if he was using it as a means to examine my face in more detail. The way he was waving the lighter around, I remember thinking I had to be careful my nostrils didn’t catch fire!
“Steady on, Ali, I was only saying it looks fucking boring,” he said jovially, referring to me as the famous boxer. “All the houses I’ve seen so far only have two stories and everything is spaced out. Oh, and it’s tiny. I can’t imagine this place rocking on a Saturday night.” “Yeah, it’s small, but it’s okay. We have been known to rock from time to time. I can see it’s nothing compared to some places in England though.” He nodded. “So I get to spend some time with you today. Lucky me,” he said, and we both laughed. “I’d save your opinion on that too for later,” I giggled. “You might find me hideous at the end of tonight.” “Strangely, I don’t think that’s going to happen, but I’m going to have to be careful since you sting like a bee,” he said, referring to a popular song about Muhammad Ali. The lyrics say ‘he floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee’ – I think he was referring to the comments I’d made to John and Steve. “Nah, you’ll be all right,” I replied. “I promise not to thump you too hard if you annoy me!” We laughed again. One of the journalists came back to the lobby, sat down beside us, and started asking the guy a lot of questions. The journalists English wasn’t good, so I helped out a little by translating, but the guy on the sofa was not fully awake yet. He repeatedly got mixed up, and kept giving the wrong answers to the questions, confusing some words with hilarious results. The journalist obviously didn’t understand his cockney accent and the two of us kept giggling at the misunderstandings. The guy kept asking the journalist to repeat the questions, which only led to more confusion. We would giggle hysterically, and the guy kept leaning closer to me when he laughed. He ran his fingers through his hair, making it stand on end again when he saw the photographer move closer to us. “Is my hair okay?” he asked me. “No, come here.” The guy leaned closer to me while I pulled my fingers through his fringe and made it stand up more evenly. He kept looking at me as I did this, and I thought it strange that although his hair could stand on end, it was soft and not stiff. The journalist later wrote in his article that Sid Vicious was unconscious in the hotel lobby when they arrived and that when he came to, he was too drugged up and his speech too incoherent to make any sense. Of course, I had no idea it was Sid Vicious I had been talking to at the time.
Click Above for the month’s selected feature!!! I am really getting into the new craze of horror shorts on YouTube, given my short attention span and the lack of “new” horror with actual terrifying appeal. The big studios miss the mark every time and we get watered down PG- 13 style garbage instead. Just type in “horror shorts” in your search browser and you’ll be exposed to a whole new world of indie filmmakers and actors/actresses that I feel have more to offer than the prevalent nepotism in commercial Hollywood film. For example, everyone is related or someone’s niece or nephew and they change their last name for “cred”. I am starting a new series of displaying a horror short every month that you can watch in the magazine. A picture within a picture is worth a thousand or more words. For this month’s feature I chose Mannequin for its brilliant use of minimalist settings, pretty much an apartment and its parking lot. True horror genius is available for your consumption. Do you live alone or remember living alone? Sometimes taking out the trash to the dumpster and a chronic obsession with your appearance to others have a lot more in common than you would actually think. Enj oy and make sure to read the Q&A with writer/director Deric Nunez on the next page to see how you can get started on your own film. – K.M
INTERVIEW WITH WRITER /DIRECTOR/ PRODUCER DERIC NUNEZ : Kevin McGovern What was the inspira on for “Mannequin” in its creepy, surreal, twilight zone, meets sheer terror approach? You pre y much hit the nail on the head! The surreal nature of the Twilight Zone was a constant source of inspira on when producing Mannequin. There was also a show I would watch as a kid called “Are You Afraid of the Dark?” which too had that blend of surreal meets terror. Throughout produc on, I kept saying that I wanted Mannequin to feel like an adult version of that show. I should also credit my overac ve imagina on. The idea for Mannequin actually came from when I was taking the trash out to that exact dumpster featured in the movie, and wondered to myself what I would do if when I turned the corner to toss the trash, something out of place was standing there. How long did the wri ng and filming process take? Mannequin took about a month to write, a 15 hour day to film, and approximately two weeks to edit before it was released on the Cowmaster Studios YouTube Channel on May 3rd, 2013. The wri ng process was definitely the most stressing due to the sheer number of rewrites and edits. Amelia Gotham provides a very convincing and compelling performance, did you discover her or is there a set group of crea ve individuals you prefer to work with? A bit of both… I have a crew comprised of friends that I have worked with and known for years. Once Mannequin was wri en up, I had my crew in place, but just needed that perfect actress to bring it to life. I discovered Amelia through an online cas ng service called LA Cas ng, which has been tremendously helpful when trying to lock down great talent. Amelia submi ed a video audi on for the role and just hit it out of the park, she was perfect. The crew and I were so pleased and grateful to have been able to work with such an amazing talent. I love the horror-short format, do you plan on full-length features in the future or to con nue the eerie brevity of the short film, which mimics the fast happening terrors of everyday life? I would love to do a horror feature in the near future, but right now I feel the best course of ac on is to con nue with the horror-shorts in order to build a fan-base that enjoys my work. The horror-shorts are a lot of fun because they allow me to explore new ideas and techniques at a quicker pace than a feature-film. What films inspired you to write and create in the world of horror. It was less a single film that inspired me, and more the genre as a whole. I just love being scared, so when it came me to come up with my next film concept, horror just made sense. My first horror film was called Knock. The crew and I had so much fun working on it that I figured the horror genre required further explora on. The great recep on it received was tremendously inspiring as well. I am constantly drawing inspira on from the techniques other horror movies u lize to get reac ons from their audience. I’m really big on studying techniques. How did Cowmaster studios begin and how do you feel about the current movement of terror-fans that embrace independent film making shot on “realis c” budgets? Cowmaster Studios began when I was a senior in high school, making low budget comedy spoofs with my friends for our own amusement. These early films were important for building up my own talents in controlling a set and bringing scripts to life, even if those scripts were filled with inappropriate inside jokes amongst friends! I think it’s great that “terror-fans” are seeking out independent films to get their horror fix. It allows individuals such as myself to reach a broad audience by simply uploading our crea ons to YouTube. Your feelings on current big studio so-called horror films? As long as they take it easy on the CGI, I’m fine with them. You can typically tell by the trailer whether the film will be for you or not. I usually judge them based on two things: 1) How much CGI is used? 2) How much of the “monster” do they show?
The big studio filmmakers who know what they’re doing understands that the Horror fans prefer prac cal effects over big CGI spectacles. Save the CG for the summer ac on flicks that need it. Horror is best when kept to the basics. I recently saw The Conjuring. Now THAT is a fine example of a big studio ge ng the genre right. One of my favorite horror films I’ve ever seen. What advice could you give to aspiring independent filmmakers and writers to realize their nightmares on the digital screen, the way you have skillfully done? I’ll ra le off a few: Study the techniques that other horror films u lize to create tension. Absorb the horror genre because you can’t successfully make a film in a genre you know nothing about. -
Make a film that you believe in, based around a technique or challenge you want to explore.
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K.I.S.S (Keep it Simple Stupid) Make something that is within a reasonable scope based on your budget, team size, and skill level.
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Stop thinking about it and just go for it. You will make mistakes, but that’s part of the process.
How necessary is adequate backing in the making of a quality and terrifying horror short film? The great thing about horror films is you don’t need much in terms of budget to create a terrifying experience. Horror is about the pacing and setup, both of which are free. Take the Blair Witch Project or Paranormal Ac vity for example. Both of those films are inspiring to me due to how successful they were at building that sense of terror, while staying on a shoestring budget. What’s the next phase for Cowmaster studios in 2014? Con nue to explore the Horror genre through more horror shorts, and focus more energy on building a fanbase. 2013 has been a great year, so hopefully our popularity con nues to rise next year! There’s a nice flow of isola on, rela onship strains, bloodshed, and poe c conclusion to your past films, A New Day and Last Hand, was your wri ng process in Mannequin deliberately different in the use of minimalism? For Mannequin I just wanted it to be a very simple story about a girl and a random encounter she experiences. The hardest part about wri ng Mannequin was actually trimming the script down un l it both told the story I wanted to tell, and contained no extra fluff weighing it down. Thankfully I had my co-writer, Erika Kotero, to help keep the integrity of the script on track. I should also point out that Last Hand was my film partners work, his name is Michael Papilla. Though I did lend some consulta on work on the set, I was more there to act and help edit. I would really recommend checking out his film, Forgiven Faith. It’s not horror, and it’s a bit low budget, but has really terrific pacing and is entertaining to watch. What types of music do you listen to…how do you select your soundtracks? I have the most random playlists… I always just say that I listen to anything that’s good. House, Pop, County, Oldies, the occasional Disney Song… I think that staying flexible in your tastes is important. Every genre has its gems. When selec ng a soundtrack for my films, I first iden fy which scenes absolutely require some musical enhancements. From there I will either scour the internet for royalty-free music, commission a friend to produce a track, or make it myself! The end credits for Knock was composed and performed by one of my best friends, Devin Doucet. A singer/songwriter currently based in Boston. What loca ons do you primarily film in and is it easier to do it local? I s ck to local spots or loca ons that have been thoroughly scouted. I like being able to just set up at a loca on with no worries of pedestrians or "the law" intervening and ruining a shoot. Plus, it is very important to have a loca on you are comfortable working in. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank my family, friends, and fans that have contributed to and supported to the con nuing growth of Cowmaster Studios.
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Jeff Dahl -Mike Spent
After Vox Pop what transpired did Powertrip or the Samoans come next?
(Mike Spent) Hi Mr. Dahl can you please tell us where you were 1979 (song reference)? Jeff Dahl - The first band I was in was during my drummer days growing up in Hawaii and was called Asylum. Kind of a heavy, psychedelic thing... this would be back in '71 or '72. We were into Sabbath, Deep Purple, Budgie... I was already listening to stuff like the Stooges, MC5, Alice Cooper back then but good luck trying to find someone else who would play that kind of stuff with me. After that I decided that all those drums and cymbals were too much to be carrying around so I got a cheap guitar and started singing. I recorded what would be my first single in '76, but that was me playing all the instruments, no band. And about '79 I started Vox Pop in LA and that's really where the fun begins. Yes I remember seeing Vox Pop in LA around that time and love the song "just like your mom", please tell us about the fun! Well, I'd met Don Bolles, Paul Cutler and Mary Sims (aka Dinah Cancer) when I moved to Los Angeles in '79 and we started off just hanging out and getting loaded and making a racket. That turned into Vox Pop with Mikey Ochoa on synth and Del Hopkins on drums. The whole idea of Vox Pop, at least from my perspective, was to get a wasted as humanly possible and see what happens. It still amazes me how many people have heard about us and still remember. Believe me, if you'd told me at that time that this would attain some sort of legendary status 30-odd years down the line I would have told you that you were mad.
In Vox Pop I played guitar and sang some of the songs. We played a show at a place called Beyond Baroque with The Mentors and Angry Samoans. I was talking to Gregg Turner from the Samoans after the show and he mentioned that Metal Mike was moving up north and that they were looking for a new singer. The Samoans were about my favorite band so I jumped all over that. I auditioned a week or two later and got the job. You need to realize, in 1980 the Samoans were not popular in LA. They were actually banned from every club in town and all the hipsters and press people hated them. So it seemed like a pretty sweet gig to me! Great, great band. I still remember that first rehearsal like it was yesterday. They sounded like a cross between the Stooges and Dead Boys to me. I was blown away. Very tight and powerful and of course, loads and loads of classic songs. That stuff still holds up. I was in for around a year and a half. We played where ever we could in LA. There was a club called The Vex in East LA which was the only place that would book us. So we played there a lot. We had a regular Tuesday or Wednesday show for a couple months called the Angry Samoans Cocktail Hour and that was always a blast. We played in San Francisco a bunch of times where they liked us a lot more than in LA. And we did that big trip to New York where the Mudd Club brought us out for a couple weeks. Its amazing how much trouble you can get into when you put your mind to it. Anyway, We recorded the 2nd Samoans album with me singing but I wanted to tour and play more and the guys in the band all had day jobs that made if difficult. So I decided to quit and start Powertrip. After I split they re-recorded the lead vocals with Mike back singing over the tracks we did. Powertrip immediately started recording, playing out and touring a lot. I remember seeing the Angry Samoans at the Vex. I did not realize you we're playing with them at the time I loved the Vex venue! Thanks for the insane punk rock ride‌ please do tell us all about Powertrip! After I left the Samoans I started up Powertrip almost immediately. I wanted to tour and record more so a couple weeks later were had already recorded our 1st single and left for an east coast tour. The idea with PT was to cross the Stooges with Motorhead. Very fast and pretty heavy. We rehearsed like dogs... 4, 5 or 6 times a week. So we got real tight real fast. As soon as
we got back from tour we recorded our first album, When We Cut We Bleed. That was recorded in one night, pretty much live in the studio. I think there might have been 3 or 4 overdubs but that's about it. We took just about any gig we got offered. One of the best is that legendary (So I'm told! Ha ha) show in San Diego with Battalion of Saints and Discharge. We played a lot with the BATs. Great guys and a wicked band. They were really one of the best punk bands of that era. This would be about when some of the punk and metal lines started getting blurred. We played with everyone from Slayer to Fishbone to Angelic Upstarts! We played with a lot of great punk and metal bands. Its also about when we started getting more and more loaded. I had no idea you jammed and shared stage with "Battalion of Saints" so often I remember when they were the Neutrons ! Were you also on Taang! Records with them? Nope, I was never on Taang. So after Powertrip did you go solo and guest guitarist on different musical outings? Yes, pretty much since Powertrip I've been solo. I decided that it would be more fun to just play with different people or bands. So I've recorded or played with everyone from Cheetah Chrome to Poison Idea to the Lazy Cowgirls to the Chemical People to Donita from L7! It keeps things interesting and always changing. After PT I recorded with Sympathy For The Record Industry, Bomp and then I was on Triple X Records from about 1990 until around 2008 or somewhere thereabouts. I've done a ton of tours overseas... Europe and Japan. Sometimes with American musicians but often with backing bands or musicians from there. Like in Japan I did a tour with The American Soul Spiders backing me before they changed their name to Teengenerate. Like I said, it keeps things interesting... same old band, year in year out, that'd get boring for me. Same for recording. I like to mix it up with bands and musicians. And I've done a lot of albums where I recorded and played everything myself... just me in the studio running the machines and playing the instruments. That'll keep you on your toes. It’s a challenge and its fun. The ultimate in DIY… Amazing career with great tours, so in 2008 you left XXX Records, can you tell us about that?
The mid-to-late 2000s, that was around when the record industry, record stores, distribution companies all started going under. Computers came along and people stopped buying their records from the mom-npop record stores which were the bread & butter for indie record companies & stores. So Triple X basically stopped releasing rock n roll and went in a Latin Rap direction. Which is fine, it was time for a change. I released the last few records I've did on Steel Cage. Now I'm living in Hawaii, in a small town on one of the outer islands. Its pretty isolated as far as rock n roll goes. Ukuleles are big out here which is not really my thing. I'm still writing songs and I get asked about touring and recording all the time but I live 5 minutes from the beach and it’s hard to get motived to go on tour with 5 smelly guys jammed into a smelly van for a couple of months. Sounds awesome living in the Hawaiian islands I can relate about being isolated you are the epitome of DIY. I own an original POWERTRIP T-shirt that you gave me, a treasured moment my friend! Can you tell us about Paul Cutler, did you do any Consumers songs, and Jaime Pina ? We did do some Consumers songs in Vox Pop, Destruction Unit, etc... Stuff that Paul and Don had brought from Phoenix. It’s hard to say who wrote what because it was all just a jumble back then. There was not a lot of planning things just sort of "happened". Paul was probably the best pure musician I've ever played with. He's studied theory and composition so his knowledge and skill is off the charts. Get guy as well. Jaime played some lead on a couple of my solo records. He's a guy who comes in the studio, listened to the tape once and then nails the whole track. He's got a great musical imagination as well. He'll play something that you never would have thought of or conceived. Both those guys are funny as hell too. Lotta fun! –Mike Spent
How does it feel to have a cover song as the first recording that most people hear when they discover you?
Rats on Rafts floored me, when I grabbed my copy of “The Moon is Big”, featuring maybe one of the greatest post-punk tunes ever with a lead single of the same name. Hypnotic guitar lines and urgent vocals that capture melody and intensity set the stage for this album. How did the album come to be in the writing process and what is the background of the lyrics for this incredible single? Thanks! It’s hard to explain how the complete album came about, we had been carrying around some songs for a few years….. others….. like the moon is big had been around for about half a year. At that point in time we had started to talk to Subroutine Records about recording an EP. But soon enough the four us decided that we had enough songs we really wanted to record so it became an LP. Lyrics of the song ‘TMIB’ are about doing something you know is absolutely pointless. Yet still for some reason you can’t back out, and of course there is a bit of humor there. The live footage I’ve watched is mind-blowing, the venues range from warehouses to clubs with an intensity I haven’t seen since early Joy Division. The band is known for some unpredictability in its live shows, what happens at a Rats on Rafts performance? It’s different every time, I guess a few important things are we improvise a lot and don’t mind changing our set last minute when we feel it needs to be different. We always try to give it %100 after all we like to see people dance, so that’s what we aim for. And we really prefer playing small places. Before the “Moon is Big”, your cover of “the Moneyman” was ripping up the YouTube playlists and garnering the band attention in the U.K. and abroad.
I’m actually quite happy about that. We had no idea that Holland had other cool punk/post-punk bands besides de Kift and the Ex until we discovered KIEM. It changed the way we looked at our city, to relate to a band from your own city who did something extraordinary is really special. We discovered all kind of cool wave/post-punk bands from Rotterdam and Holland because of them. And us covering ‘The Moneyman’ means a younger generation get’s to discover KIEM. Working with KIEM’s singer and keyboard player Huub for the single really inspired us and of course later on Ger “Sax” (KIEM’s sax player) played on our album and played several gigs with us. The only thing I don’t like about the Moneyman single and I think the entire band agrees with me on this….. We play a way better version of it these days. What was life like growing up in the Netherlands and how did the band members meet? Really boring hahaha, I’m half Irish I thought about running away to Ireland or the UK for a long, long time. Florian and Joris met each other at the age of …. I guess 6 or 7 at school and Florian, Arnoud and I ended up in the same class at the age of 14/15 and about a year and a half later we decided to start a band and Joris joined us a bit later on after our 1st drummer left. We discovered a lot music together like Syd Barrett’s Pink Floyd, Ramones, Pistols, Clash, the Cure, the Fall, the Sound, Smiths etc. We really had a mutual feeling of what we wanted to do and an understanding of a kind of music we could not share with any people of our generation.
What are some artists from Rotterdam that influenced you and that our audience needs to know about? The scene looks very cool and produces some amazing sounds! KIEM have been a huge influence on us and so have bands like Willy Nilly, de Rondos, and lots of punk compilations from that era. *Including: Tandstickorshocks, Bunker Oeso etc.* I always liked to go and see Sauna West when they used to play. AC Berkheimer recently released a good Shoegaze album. Harry Merry has of course already got a legendary status, he is one of the most talented and original artists ever to come out of this country. Ariel Pink promotes Harry a lot!
positive part! However, at the same time you’ve got so many bands out there releasing so much shit it’s hard to find the stuff you want to hear! What is currently in the works in the way of a new album? Will there be one? There will be a new album, we have about 7 songs finished at the moment that we are really proud of! Unfortunately it is not going to be out soon. Meanwhile we are also collaborating with dutch band de Kift and I think it would be a waste if we don’t record some of the stuff we are doing together.
When I listen to the recordings, I hear artistic influence ranging from Alternative TV, The Buzzcocks, all the way to Wire (154-era). Are any of these in your record collections? Wire (1st 3 records including 154), still looking for Spiral Scrach of the Buzzcocks, never really got into Alternative TV. What are your thoughts on the post-punk scene of the U.S.? In the states, with the exception of a few bands, post-punk is very watered down and radio friendly. To be honest I’m not aware of any American Post Punk scene? Could you name a few? I guess what a lot of people consider Post-Punk is really closer to miserable disco pop. You just finished a tour of the Dutch countryside; do you prefer to remain in your region with the band? Does digital technology allow the band access to the globe without extensive touring? Nah, we went to the Dutch country side for a week to hang out and write some new stuff. We would really like to tour the entire planet but we have not been able to….. So far……But I am very grateful that we have been able to go the UK a good few times and I hope we will be able to play in Ireland, Iceland and the US someday! I think digital technology makes it both easier and harder. At the same time you as an American have discovered us without actually seeing us play or without our record being available in your country, so that’s the
The “God is Dead” shirts on your official site are cool as hell, what inspired the song and why are these shirts so popular? We played a show one night at the Winston in Amsterdam with Pony Pack after us some American guy played called himself ‘The Show Is The Rainbow’…. if I remember correctly, I don’t know how or why but somehow during that show I thought “God Is Dead” would be a good topic for a song. No Nietzsche…. I was heavily into the Stone Roses at that point in time so the intro to me was very funny, this sleazy shoegazey part about God being Dead. I think people have the same kind of humor and therefore like the t-shirt or the bag. I have to keep warning them though it CAN get you into trouble! Some people just don’t understand the shirt is a joke and will be offended. Do you have any final thoughts or last words for our readers in topics that might be of interest to them, or yourselves?
Well I’d like to ask you how you discovered us…..
– Kevin McGovern, 2013
Records.2012 the new cd came out called "Hypersensitive" Video linksYou can't catch me Her Name was Jane You must have some great insight into the music scene a view from both coasts can you go deeper into the NYC scene in the mid-seventies ? Then tell us about the LA scene?
Interview with Loren Molinare of the DOGS Can you give us a brief history of the Dogs, how long you have been a part of the band? I started the band and have been with the band since 1969. In the Detroit/Ann Arbor/Lansing nexus THE DOGS rocked hard, fast and precise (energy-maniacs onstage they may have been, their proficiency as teens cast them practically as rock prodigies) with their own original songs from the get-go. They opened for the likes of MC5, Stooges, Amboy Dukes with Ted Nugent, SRC etc. etc. etc. throughout the late ’60s/early ’79's In the later ’70s THE DOGS moved to NYC opening for Kiss, The Stilettos (proto-Blondie,) Television and all manner of punks watchful of THE DOGS’ pareddown but hardcore Detroit rock performed in their own torn jeans and leather jackets (“Our normal street clothes because,” laughs bassist MARY KAY, “we couldn’t afford stage clothes.”) Relocation to Hollywood mid-decade would find them opening for AC/DC, the Scorpions, and well, everybody, even Guns N ‘Roses a decade beyond. The mighty “Slash Your Face 2012″ bonus track on the cd dates from this golden age of punks, with the original finding distribution by their self-inaugurated Detroit Records circa 1978 for the punk Rock classic Slash your face. 2001 Dionysus Records released "Fed Up" a retrospective of singles and outtakes from the 70's In 2009 and 2013 The Dogs toured Japan going to Tokyo to support 3 DoGs tribute cd's on Future Now
When The dogs hit NYC in 1973 it was quite a varied music scene with Kiss just getting signed and glitter bands like the Harlots of 42nd st. We played with The Dictators and Kiss and suicide- What was cool about the scene it was not just one style of music it was more about attitude. The LA scene when we moved to Hollywood was sort of the same way you had The Motels- The POP- The Berlin Brats- Van Halen-The DoGs- max Lazer all different sounding and musically different but like minded in street attitude. In fact With The Motels & The POP & The DoGs we started a band coalition called " Radio Free Hollywood" because we could not get booked at the Whisky or The Starwood so we put on our own shows and started a monthly fanzine on the scene. This was before it was called punk rockPeople called it new wave? The DoGs just played Detroit rock and people called it all sorts of things later called it punk ha ha- we always played loud and fast before it was trendy.. So with the dogs how did the name came up? did it happened at the same time as the stooges mc5 etc? What spawned the DOGs? Well I came up with it after hearing the Stooges song "I wanna be your dog" and i thought that dogs are man’s best friend, and they are always there for you even when they are mistreated, they are just there always there to serve and love their master unconditionally. Well after I told my mom we were calling the band the DoGs she was offended and so were other people so we knew if it was hitting a nerve it was a good name, and I guess after 40 + years it was true. Well the Mc5 and The Stooges were happening a few years before we started the band. But both bands especially the Mc5 had huge impact on us. And for me as a guitarist Wayne Kramer/MC5 was
the guy that pushed me over the edge to want to rock and go take over the world as much as a 15 year old kid can. The Detroit rock scene of these two bands and also Brownsville Station, The Frost, Rationals, and the Motown sound of soul had us wanting to rock and be a part of the geo music/political Detroit music landscape...
Loren, you wrote most the material? And the bassist has been by your side all these years! Yes I have written 98% of the songs with a few choice covers thrown in. And Mary had been there on the front line of rock and roll with myself and The DoGs since day one! Mary kicks ass‌
Can you tell us about the lineup and past or guest guitarists,I wanna know all things DoGS!
She has deep conviction to rock and roll and is a phenomenal bass player!
I have been the only guitarist..
Does she help write the songs and create the bass lines?
1. Mary Kay has always been is the bass player in the band. 2. Art Phelps from Lansing Mi was our first drummer from 1968-1970. 3. Ron Wood joined The DoGs in 1970-1981-Drums 4. Tony Matteaucci 1981-1989-Drums 5. Ken Mundy-2000-Drums
She helps on the arrangements and has a knack for cool vocal parts. What is her & your choice of weapon do you still own the original guitar from 1969? Well Mary plays early 80's G&L basses and a vintage Marshall 100 bass head she bought when we went to live in the UK in 1978-
6. Steve Darrow-2000-Drums
I play Gibson SG's and Les Paul Specials with Blackstar Amps!
7. Ron Wood-2002- Drums recorded lp Suburban Nightmare
What song would you say is your signature song and can you tell us about its meaning?
8. Tony Matteaucci-Drums 2009-to present-recorded new lp Hypersensitive
There are two songs
Did you guys identify with the punkers of NYC? Did they accept your sound on both coasts? You guys were proto punk to me, do you consider that your title? Yes- I loved the Dolls and television-Patti Smith, The Dictators-Suicide-Debby HarryI think we were accepted in NY we played with the Dictators a lot and even Kiss and out here in LA- We were accepted by people like Keith Morris, Greg Ginn and Jay Lansford before they started Black Flag -Circle Jerks and CH3. yes Proto Punk I like it.. During the punk daze did your sound progress ? It got a little more edgy because we had songs that were between early pink Floyd and the Ramones-The Who was a big influence on us some there was the jangly power chord drone sounding riffs.
1. John Rock- this was our first 45 and is about John Sinclair who was the MC5's manager and had got busted by the Feds, so we wrote a free John now song. 2. "Slash your Face" This was bootlegged on the Killed by Death lp's. it came out in 1978 on a EP called Fed UP. But it’s about anyone or anybody who think they are better than anyone else- may it be religious fanatics, politicians, punk rockers, racists etc. Strong like the Viet Cong we search to destroy you! It is a powerful song we still play and very relevant to the world we live in..
Slash your Face" is probably one of them
-Mike Spent,2013
Fear & Loathing LB Presents The L. A. Prose of Michael Essington Louis By Michael Essington Years ago I worked at a medical health insurance company. I worked my ass off at this company, but I was lousy at the politics. So, I would submit a ground breaking idea, they would use it and never credit me. I would confront them they would play dumb and I’d rebel. Somehow in my young and dumb mind I thought I’d win. Ultimately, after three years I was let go in a massive downsizing. Like a lot of young idiots, I had the mind-set of, “They can’t let me go, they need me.” Sadly, we are all replaceable. While the bosses were, mostly, douche-bags, I met lots of very cool people. And dated far more womenfolk than I should have. One of the people I met at my years at the company was a Hispanic man named Louis. Louis, I believe, was from Spain and was impeccably groomed. Beard, hair, suit, you name it, he was a classy guy. Louis worked his way up in the company and ended up being the supervisor of the claims support unit. Despite very different backgrounds, we hit it off. My sense of humor didn’t offend him much. Anyway, I didn’t hang out with Louis much, as he was married with two pretty young daughters. He was usually home-bound. Then one day after work he asked if I was going to the Happy Hour? Down the street from the job there was a Red Onion (which I played a drunken game of pool with Kelsey Grammer) and every week someone from the job was throwing a party, someone’s birthday, someone’s last day, someone was getting married, somebody got a hair-cut . . . you name it, we drank to it. So, I was surprised when Louis asked. I said, “Yeah, I’m going, you?” He said, “Yeah.” I didn’t ask Louis at the time, but I could tell something was up with him. The next time I saw him was at a house-warming party (it was really an apartment) for this girl Marlene (I think that was her name), who was the subject of much gossip herself for hooking up with a co-worker at a drunken Jacuzzi party a few months before. Anyway, Louis comes to the house-warming with his wife, who is a very nice woman, but very withdrawn. I got the impression she didn’t speak English and was shy. Louis’ wife hadn’t left his side all night, nor did she talk. She nursed a beer and smiled and nodded. After a few hours she startled us all by getting up and whispering, “Where’s the ladies room?” Almost an hour goes by and someone asks Louis, “Where’s your wife?” Everybody headed towards the bathroom and all you could hear was a faint, “Help.” Turns out Louis’ wife used the restroom and went to leave and the doorknob fell off, locking her inside.
The next hour was spent trying to find tools or a screwdriver of some sort. Finally after two hours the apartment manager provided us with a pair of pliers. Everybody took a crack and finally, we got the door open. Louis’ wife emerged very embarrassed and asked to leave immediately. Over the next year I would see Louis at almost every happy-hour thrown. I was never sure if it was that he was a cool boss and wanted to be “one of the guys” or that he didn’t want to go home. One of these happy-hour’s I got pretty buzzed and let my supervisor know what I thought of him. He had been riding my ass for months, trying to fire me. But I did my job perfectly. So, he started writing me up if I came back from lunch one minute late. To keep my job I would bring my lunch and eat it at my desk. So, at this particular happy-hour I plopped down next to him and asked him, “Do know how I’m able to put up with your shit day in and day out at work without walking out the door?” He looked concerned, and then shook his head, “No.” I continued, “Because I know that outside of work I could beat the fuck out of you, and there isn’t a thing you could do about it.” Then I smiled. My boss shot back his drink, then stood up and left. I took my drink and wandered off for the next person to talk shit to. About a year after Louis’ wife got locked in the can, I invited him to a party at my apartment, I extended the invite to whoever he wanted to bring (I meant his wife). Louis shows up to my apartment an hour or two late with a girl, I think her name was Ellen. I thought nothing of this since everybody at this company carpooled. Anyway, I gave them each some beer and showed them where the chips were. I’m meeting and greeting for the next couple of hours, when it hits me that I haven’t seen Louis in hours. I ask a couple of people if Louis had left? No one knew. I wander around and walk into my room to find them dry-humping on my futon (Hey, it was the ‘90’s, OK?). They looked shocked; I left and shut the door.
They stayed in my room until almost everybody had left. Louis shook my hand and said, “We’ll talk on Monday.” I smiled and said, “OK.” So, on Monday we meet in a conference room he says, “I would appreciate your confidentiality.” I tell him, “No problem.” I had no intention of screwing his life up. But I did wonder, “What happened to the family man?” Over the next few weeks he and Ellen took every lunch and break together, so even without me telling, everybody kind of figured it out. Once I got laid-off I never saw Louis again. Despite his romantic issues, he was a nice guy. Having grown up during the early years of the Los Angeles punk rock scene, Michael Essington began to chronicle its recent history by writing about the scene’s key players and major shows. Check out Michael’s numerous published collections at his site…
What made you decide to live in Long Beach and pursue photography and modeling? My father gave me a li le Canon Rebel camera for my 10th birthday which started it all. Fast forward 12 years and I am an alumni of the Photography Bachelor of Fine Arts program at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design. It wasn't that I hadn't ever thought of studying anything else, but I never had the dedica on to jump through hoops for anything like I have for photography. I moved out to Long Beach because my best friend is also a Midwest transplant and student at CSLUB. The first me we drove out to West Coast I was completely sold on the people and pace here, tacos and skateboarding. It's truly dreamy. Modeling is secondary, but it interests me, because I am in love with the interac ons of portraiture and enjoy providing that experience for other visual ar sts. Where do you like to hang out in your free me? Honestly, the ocean. I am also a proud a endee of Trilogy Yoga's bluff sessions on Ocean Blvd. The weekly farmer's markets are fantas c and useful for ingredients for cooking. I run away to San Pedro when I can too, it's nice to be up above the water for a change of scenery. What bands locally or na onally are you currently into? I listen to The Briefs, The Vibrators, The Violent Femmes, anything punk that has some funk to it. Rocksteady Breakfast was my favorite band in Minneapolis and the females of the hip hop scene there, like The Chalice, are killin' it. I've been back in Long Beach for a month and need to catch up badly on local music, but Eugene Owens played a fantas c set at Que Sera a few weeks back with several other talented local musicians. India House is releasing an EP on October 12, which happens to be during an gallery opening showcasing my photographs for ArtWalk. What types of books and movies inspire you? My absolute favorite movies are masculine, gri y, drama c movies like The Godfather trilogy, Snatch, and No Country for Old Men. I love the work of Nicholas Provost who makes short, 'experimental' films. I spent so much me looking at pictures instead of words during college that my a en on span for reading is pre y pathe c now, but I was a huge bookworm growing up. Everyone should read The Li le Prince. How would you describe your life experience up to this point, and what would you consider your defining moment so far? Whenever I am down on my life, it's usually because I'm not thinking, feeling, or ac ng punk enough about whatever challenges lie ahead. It can be such a beau fully subtle or impressively obvious thing. I clung onto this mentality a er the loss of my high school partner to suicide, and then wrote my college thesis about suicide preven on and why it shouldn't be taboo to share things like this. I think that moving between several ci es has allowed me to con nue to redefine my life experience, but this next year will be a big one, cheers!
-KMG, 2013
On your latest EP, Healer, where did the song lyric content and violent, dreamscapes come from?
music for the enjoyment or because there genuinely upset about something.
I think words are like Seeds. You need to plant them and then watch them grow. Many of the lyrics are based around conspiracy theories. These can be ridiculous, misconceived, paranoid, unfounded, outlandish, or irrational. Michael Parenti, in his 1996 essay which examines the role of progressive media in the use of the term. The JFK Assassination II: Conspiracy Phobia On The Left states "It is an either-or world for those on the Left who harbor an aversion for any kind of conspiracy investigation: either you are a structuralist in your approach to politics or a 'conspiracist' who reduces historical developments to the machinations of secret cabals, thereby causing us to lose sight of the larger systemic forces.”
We think with the way a lot of modern technology provides everything so quickly these days there has to be a backlash to this with some kind of punk! For example, I can only think of the garage scene, which was the last proper punk-type scene. Maybe music has to get so bad there will be a musical inspired revolution of amazing punk bands! We’re waiting.....
Complications occur for terms such as UFO, which literally means "unidentified flying object" but connotes alien spacecraft, a concept also associated with some conspiracy theories, and thus possessing a certain social stigma. What are covert operations if not conspiracies? At the same time, the CIA is an institution, a structural part of the national security state. In sum, the agency is an institutionalized conspiracy. “Katherine K. Young states, "the fact remains, however, that not all conspiracies are imagined by paranoids. Historians show that every real conspiracy has had at least four characteristic features: groups, not isolated individuals; illegal or sinister aims, not ones that would benefit society as a whole; orchestrated acts, not a series of spontaneous and haphazard ones; and secret planning, not public discussion". Above all else a real conspiracy is evidenced by provable facts. The existence of such real conspiracies helps feed the belief in conspiracy theories. Also in the EP there is a lot of references to the past, present and future experiences and the main drive of these lyrics are to tell a story that we must learn from the past and move on and concentrate on the present and future and do the the best we can in a good way. There is a strong sense of natural elements colliding with Science too, also a struggle within the lyrics, a rebel with a cause, if only for the people to be looked after better by the higher forces. Who are your influences and what do you think of modern punk? Our influences are- Sherbert, Tea, Prague, Marshmallows, Giraffes, Curry monsters, Fire, Sky, Sea, Sand, Waves, Love, Laughter, Easter Island statues, William Blake, Jammy Dodgers, Late Night Drinks, Howard Hughes, and Jelly Bikes. We’re not sure there is modern punk. This is what music really needs now is bands that are actually saying something for a change. I cannot think of any new bands that are writing
How many releases and tours so far? We have released 2 albums and 1 EP so far. The first album is self-titled and the second album RAR" is what you start seeing when you have been out in the snow for too long. Your mind makes up distortions of shapes and these can appear as monsters. These monsters are apparitions of the past and the future. 'RAR' Is also data compression and error recovery. In a world too heavily reliant on cell phones, computers, TV and media, RAR throughout comments on the escapism of these trappings. When making our first album we had to down 10 shots after every song and eat jelly. Our ep, News at 10 was written around the time of the Riots in London and is about the unrest in London then. We have been on three headline tours and many one of shows, which have been very up and down. We played amazing places like the Isle of Man through to manic kids in Doncaster. We have supported bands like Atari Teenage Riot, The wedding Present, Bow Wow wow, The Temperance Movement, Gaz Coombes, The Black Belles (RIP) and The Besnard Lakes. We can morph into many scenes but be ourselves. We played at a crazy pub in Horncastle to old stripping punks and the landlady was the bar person, sound person, she locked us in the pub all night in a cell underground. Alwin likes to drive backwards on motorways and on one-way streets. London and Manchester have always supported us well, ride on through the night.
often described as the most flamboyant and notorious of the major Romantics, I was celebrated in life for aristocratic excesses, including huge debts and numerous love affairs. Serra - I wash cars and ride Roo's and surf in the sky a lot whilst angling for fish, also i used to play Tennis A LOT.I first hit the tennis scene in November 2000, when i won the Eddie Herr International Junior Tennis Championships in the girls' 16 division at the age of just 13.I was then given a special distinction, the Rising Star Award, which is awarded only to players of exceptional promise. I was the youngest girl ever to reach the final of the Australian Open junior championship at 14 years and 9 months. What are your views on the current crazed state of the economy and politics? Carbonated water, sugar, colour (caramel E150d), phosphoric acid, natural flavourings (including caffeine) Amount Per 1 oz (28 g)100 grams1 bar (162 g)100 grams Calories 546 As individuals, what's life like outside the band? Alwin-I am a man of mystery, much like Inspector gadget or a Breaking bad crazy. I like Videogames and Wrestling (80's wrestling). I live in Prague and go roller-skating by the sea. Martha - I was born in Tintagel to Carter and Katherine Blaire. My mutant powers first manifested when i was in high school. As a aspiring singer, i volunteered to perform at my school dance when my light-generating abilities first appeared. Everyone at the dance assumed it was a technologically generated special effect, an assumption commonly made before i revealed myself to be a mutant later in my life. Using my stage name "Knitter", I set out to make a name for myself in the music industry, using my light powers and dancing ability to enhance my performances. It was at one of my shows that i first meet the X-Men who were attacked by the forces of the Hellfire Club. Angry at the interruption of my show, I lashed out in anger at the Hellfire intruders, unintentionally making one of them catatonic. I subsequently aided the X-Men in finding Kitty Pryde. I have always assumed that life as a disco queen would be exciting but find the fight with the X-Men's enemies going a bit too far! So i turns down their offer to join the team and decided to join Dead Wolf Club. John - I work at a chocolate shoe factory. I read all the time and get drunk every day. I'm also a English poet and a leading figure in the Romantic movement. I travelled to fight against the Ottoman Empire in the Greek War of Independence, for which Greeks revered me as a national hero. I died at age 36 from a fever contracted while in Missolonghi in Greece. I am
What are your future plans and mission with Dead Wolf Club? We want to lower government taxes and... "Serve the public trust", "Protect the innocent", "Uphold the law", (Classified), Eat Sweets Stop climate change and fight global warming by advocating solar and wind power and opposing clean coal and nuclear technologies. Protect oceans. Fight pollution and protects aquatic animals from abusive practices. Save forests. By exposing and preventing logging and clear-cutting, protect ancient forests and endangered wildlife. Achieve disarmament and peace. Protest nuclear proliferation and gathers statistics about public disapproval of nuclear weapons. Promote nontoxic products. Study chemicals in products and promotes reduction in toxic materials. Encourage sustainable agriculture. Oppose genetic engineering of crops and advocates labeling of genetically engineered ingredients.
-KMG, 2013
Not what you think… Karsten talks to F & L Mike Spent WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST BAND AND WHAT INSPIRED YOU? My first band was a band called BLOWJOBS and I was already almost 34....I was always inspired by acts like IGGY, the DOLLS, JOHNNY, DEAD BOYS, BLONDIE, RICHATD HELL...old NYC & LA PUNK mostly. What year was this? That was late 2000. WHAT IS IT LIKE BEING A FULL FLEDGED PUNKER IN GERMANY TODAY? It’s kinda hard cause there’s not too many people left here in Germany who know about old school punk and the attitude, outfit, creativity behind it...but luckily, there a are still a few old fuckers like us around who make things happen...and lately, I realize there´s a few youngsters fillin´ in as well which is cool ! WHAT BANDS HAVE YOU GIGGED WITH? We just did 3 shows together with the STITCHES on their European tour, in Cologne, Hamburg and
Aachen City...it was pretty much rad, as you can imagine.
So in Germany the punks are in gangs or groups?
KILLER, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE MAYHEM WITH THE STITCHES?
It used to be that way. Punks had to stick together in gangs or groups because we were always in danger of getting attacked by nazi skinheads, rednecks or other idiots ! The police was a topic as well, of course.
A lot of people were really excited about this package and freaked...the Stitches were in Europe for the first time after almost 12 years...and especially the last show in Aachen was KILLER. Everything involved that a sick brain can imagine, man...pogo, speed, sex, broken glass, broken microphones, but luckily no silly violence, just good, filthy fun !!! Where can we find NAZI DOGS records … We have two 7"s out and 3 LPs plus a live CD....we´ll put out our next 7" on Wanda Records in November. You can receive our stuff from me. Just contact me on our NAZI DOGS Facebook page. Or contact Wanda Records www.wandarecords.de SO WHAT OTHER BANDS DO YOU LISTEN TOO? I mostly listen to older stuff like Bowie or Roxy Music recently...some Voidoids and Television of course as well...Nikki Sudden...We gig with different bands in different cities all the time. I´m looking forward a lot to some festival in Bruxelles in October, when we play together with MENACE. Should be alright. Karsten, you were 35 when you joined the first band how old were you when you got into punk? I was about 15 in 1982 when I joined the punk gang! Good times back then in Germany - we had the big punk meetings in Hannover, the CHAOS DAYS, where thousands of punk rockers showed up & caused trouble in the city for a whole weekend. I created my own punk gang shortly afterwards. What is the first punk band you ever saw and did you like it immediately as in “I found my calling”? One of my first punk shows was Killing Joke back in the early eighties at some festival in Belgium and it was fantastic. I fell in love immediately with the danger and attitude involved.
There are probably even more people into punk rock these days, but it’s not as radical and creative and unforeseeable as it used to be, sadly. The old punks have mostly faded away and many of the younger people don´t exactly know what it’s all about. They mostly listen to crappy, political correct crust sound and that’s actually not my scene. In America, especially in California, many of the old bands are still playing or have never stopped performing. We don´t have this in Germany. Reunions happen, but mostly in a pretty crappy context. I see it here in California we have Hollywood and cinema culture like Warhol said everybody gets 15 minutes of stardom so there's always an audience here people looking for stimuli. Did you ever get too see PVC or the old German punk bands? Mike, people looking for stimuli is a good thing in my opinion if it happens in a DIY context. I´m dreading the fact that I missed PVC when they played a couple of reunion shows years ago. I think I was on tour with the Nazi Dogs at that moment. I´m an old fan of this band. Some goes with the PACK, another great vintage punk act from Munich. They play reunion shows every once in a while, but sadly only in the very southern area of Germany. But I saw the RAZORS from Hamburg a couple of years ago at some punk festival and they were absolutely amazing. They are one of the few old German punk bands that do not suck nowadays! Can you tell us about the older German bands or the lesser-known ones? I like retro, I live in the past, I like how it use too be can you tell us about Germany's original punk bands? Incognito Records? The best old German bands in my opinion are the Razors, the Pack, PVC, Napalm, ZK, Big Balls & the Great White Idiot, Artless, Male, KFC, Middle Class Fantasies, Buttocks and many more !
I know you were on Incognito cause I bought all of the Spent Idols stuff back then remember when I interviewed you for my old zine PEZZEY YOUTH ?? It was issue #3 with the Spent Idols, Stitches & US Bombs ! I loved it. We were the vanguards of pogo punk and gigged together. So can you tell us how you came up with the name Nazi dogs just too be clear you and I know you are not a Nazi but for the readers that the N word is a buzz word of hate please tell us why Nazi Dogs? What does it mean to you as a name? This is easy....we come from a time, when PUNK was a fucking four letter word and not some harmless thing to participate in. That’s why I did choose such a "radical" name for the band. Punk used to be vicious and wild and always put some mirror in front of people´s faces, if you know what I mean. Then, I´m a huge fan of the VILETONES from Canada, and their singer Steven Leckie called himself "Nazi Dog" back in 1977 !! In Germany is it dangerous to use words like Nazi is there much of a new Nazi movement? Can you tell me about if it’s an issue or not there ? Is it illegal to use references to old Nazi Germany etc.? No real Nazi band here in Germany would have the guts to call themselves the Nazi Dogs. I gotta admit it was kinda hard to get the band started, cause many promoters and club owners are pretty much politically correct guys....but after we scored some record deal with TKO back in 2004 it was way easier to get shows. I actually still have some old Spent Idols shirt you sent me back in 1996 !!! And some Spent Idols vest I bought at Vinly Solution in Huntington Beach. I wear the vest on stage regularly. Any last words? I wanna say my last words as a tribute to Mike and the Spent Idols: FUCK THE HIPPIE SHIT, CHAOS LIVES, and PUNK ROCK RULEZ….Many greetings from Aachen City, Germany !!!! -
M. S. - 2013
Hecatomb Justice Is As Justice Does He was a Peace Officer charged by the citizenry to carry out the interest of justice, which he did, to the very limits of his God-given abilities cultivated and improved upon with year after year of hard work and constant dedication. Problem was, for the weak among the citizenry, Officer Johnson subscribed to the Platonic Idea of Justice, which is, as I am sure you will all remember, the brutally honest and sardonic equation of Justice with the advantage of the stronger. This is what Johnson practiced and strove to perfect each and every day, hour after hour, year after year, decade after decade. Ever since the earliest days of his youth, Johnson was doing all he could to get over on his fellow man, inflict as much pain as he could and thereby, extract as much Justice as possible. He was a bully from the preschool sandbox to the high school locker room. He even kicked sadistically within in the dark walls of the womb, where the great sorrow brought his dark consciousness into existence long before his current face was conceived. Tonight was no different than all the others. Officer Johnson was deep in meditation, deep in quiet religious contemplation, focusing on his breathing and on the transcendent Face of God, praying in ecstatic joy, begging humbly for divine guidance, centering his soul on his mantra crucified on the saddlebacks and peaks of his breathing, praying for peace, beating the blood out of the alleged perp, who was “resisting arrest” for some undisclosed crime. With each breath, with each blow, Johnson’s knucklebones sang their song, beating Justice into the meat of the unconscious man’s face behind the diner. Blood was coming out of the man’s mouth and nose, out of gashes in his cheeks and forehead and chin and ears and scalp and arms and hands and eyes. Nose and teeth and mandible and cheekbones were broken under the misdirected wrath of the Johnson’s knuckles and nightstick. He worked the breath, exhaling as the knucklebones of justice found their mark, and breathing in as he drew back again, rearing up in blood-filled hate, calculating his next assault, his next sin offering, his next advantage over his fellow man, his next sacrificial blow, his next swinging left with the baton, his next descending right hook, and the blood just kept on coming. It was beautiful, truly beautiful. It was a workout, an ecstatic, revelatory exercise in physical endurance guided by spiritual focus. It was an exercise in violent brutality at the hands of the force hired and nurtured by the concerned and frightened citizenry. Beating out the blood from the meat puppets living in the cities of the plague, beating out the blood from the bodies, one by one: this was Johnson’s calling, it was his mission, and he was as devout as any other man. Finally winded, Officer Johnson stood up to catch his breath and looked down upon his work, admiring his own psychotic dedication. He was a purist, however. He would never go back and beat a man anew after he stood to catch his breath. When he stood up and stepped back, it was over. He only deserved as much as he himself could endure ― this was a truth every aspiring shaman must know and own outright if he is to serve his office righteously. “Okay,” said Johnson, “let’s take ‘im in.”
Karma Is Not A Zero Sum Game “Karma is a zero sum game. Quid pro quo,” Angus said, announcing his presence with a question disguised as a statement. “No, man, karma is not a zero sum game,” said Doctor Jimmy, genuinely irritated, not yet recognizing the voice, but when he looked up to the face of the ignorant intruder, he saw it was Angus, and he noticed that his friend’s hands were full. “That’s the whole point. Where quo follows quid, the categorical imperative is butchered and battered and deep fried and served up with a side a potatoes.” Jimmy was in his usual spot in the alleyway between the bar and the feed & grain. The buildings there formed a natural windbreak. He was huddled in against a wall, next to the dumpster, and he had a little fire going. “Side of potatoes?” asked Angus, smiling. “Laugh away, fucker, but karma is not a zero sum game. Have you learned nothing from me over the years? Karma is the law of action. It is a sign on the road pointing to our one shared destination, which is the realization that we are one, there is no sum, because there is no plurality to combine.” “Yeah, I know,” said Angus, “I was just making sure you were listening.” He handed the old man a heavy wool blanket. “Here ya go, man. I thought you might get cold tonight. Keep it if you want.” “Thanks, fucker,” said Doctor Jimmy. The old man hung the offensive moniker on Angus years ago. Over time the meanness faded from the moniker, and it became a friendly nickname, and they both understood it as such. It was that moniker that kept them on the same level. Strange, but it somehow made them friends, for there is no charity between friends; between friends it’s all shared caring, a union outside the self, tat twam asi, compassion, but never anything as diminutive as charity. “And here, I brought you some grub,” said Angus, handing the old, wise hobo a large, brown paper bag loaded with food, hamburgers, a couple well-done steaks, steamed vegetables wrapped in foil, and two huge pieces of pie crammed into a closed Styrofoam clamshell tray. “Oh, fucker. I can’t believe you and your brutal stupidity,” scolded the old man, going through the bag and finding it loaded up to the top. “Bless you, fucker,” said the old man, his eyes tearing up a bit around the edges. “Bless you.” “You wanna come sleep on the couch tonight?” “Fucker, this is my home, besides I don’t want to cramp your style.” “Jimmy, you know I ain’t got no style to cramp no more.” “Well, I certainly don’t want to chase off any of your lady friends.” “No ladies tonight, Jimmy. I’m just goin’ home. I got an empty couch. Are you sure? It’s gonna get cold.” “Naw, fucker. I appreciate it, but this is my home. You’re standing in my living room ― Come on in, by the way. . . . I mean, if I sleep on your couch, next thing I know you’re gonna try to trick me into the shower or into a barber’s chair.” “All right, Jimmy, stay warm, and eat up all that food. And, if you change your mind, you know where to find me.” “Thanks again, fucker.” “Don’t mention it. ―Oh, here, I almost forgot,” said Angus, pulling two forty-ounce bottles of malt liquor from his overcoat pockets and handing them to the old hobo. “My angel,” said the old man. “Thank you, fucker.”
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