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NEWSLETTER Volume 2, Issue 1

Preventing Torture Framing the Issue

January 2008

within the fight against terrorism Inside this issue:

Torture on tape: a filmmaker’s perspective

Torture on tape: a filmmaker’s perspective

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An interview with Danish documentary filmmaker Jørgen Flindt Pedersen Upholding the absolute

Jørgen Flindt Pedersen is a Danish filmmaker who has won international acclaim for his feature documentaries, including “A Family at War” [2004], about a son’s death in Iraq and “Your Neighbour’s Son” [1976], about young Greek military recruits. He is currently developing a documentary about torture in the world today, which follows UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak on several country visits. The IRCT spoke with the filmmaker after he visited the U.S. detention centre at Guantanamo Bay. IRCT: What motivated you to make such a film? JFP: Already very soon after 9/11, I got interested in the subject of what the new challenges from terrorism were doing to our society. But at the same time I also had another very specific interest in the Middle East and the Palestinian situation. Already in my film “Terror and torture” [2005], even without concentrating on torture, I learned what could happen to political prisoners, from a former officer from Shabak [or Shin Bet, the Israeli internal

security service] who talked about interrogation methods he called “moderate physical pressure”. Also I was very much inspired by an article in the Atlantic monthly by Mark Bowden called “The Dark Art of Interrogation” which told about the whole history of interviewing POWs from Vietnam, Korea and finding out how the enemy used interrogation. Bowden invented the expression “torture lite” and ended up in this article saying that there are good reasons (such as the ticking bomb scenario) for using some forms of torture…In “Terror and torture” we see that in situations where there are a lot of terrorist attacks, it creates an environment ripe for torture, because people are acting out of fear, but on the other hand, we also show the consequences, the slippery slope, of this. So in some sense, my earlier film really set the stage for this film. IRCT: You have just visited the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. What were some of your expectations going there, and did these change based on the observations you made during your visit?

JFP: My doubt about going there was confirmed, in that there was no chance for me to make any judgments about the treatment of prisoners. I could only see prisoners from a distance. It is clear that so-called compliant detainees get treated relatively better than the others and receive benefits, such as a proper toothbrush and bottle of water with their meals...While the number of detainees is declining, the number of assaults against guards has increased. On any given day, about 20 people will be on hunger strikes, and are being forcefed twice a day. I asked the admiral in charge about suicide attempts and it was quite astonishing how many there had been since he took over in May last year…I talked to a lawyer whose client had been beaten a month ago. I think this still happens, and the admiral said if this sort of abuse happens, the persons in charge will be disciplined, but it’s very difficult for the admiral to oversee all of this. IRCT: You interviewed a doctor while you were there. Did you get any insight into the role of

ban on torture: addressing the military over detainee

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abuses in Iraq

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medical professionals at Guantanamo? JFP: One question that the lawyers are talking about is that doctors don’t give their names to the detainees. Another thing that’s very controversial is that the doctors are participating in force-feeding. But his [the doctor interviewed] argument was that he was doing it to save lives. Of course, as a journalist it is very problematic not to talk to the other side. In a normal prison situation, you would be able to interview the detainees. The only way [in this instance] is to talk with former detainees or the lawyers. The lawyers are also restricted in what they can talk about, but they can talk about the general situation if they have heard about abuse…It is of course a situation where you have people who are 100% in power over other people. IRCT: What other countries have you visited in connection with this film? Do you have indications of


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