Come to the throne

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Come to the Throne: Dr Jonathan David 2009

John
4:1‐6:

Destroying
the
power
of
the
past
within
the
environment
 The
first
thing
worship
should
when
putting
the
right
dimensions
into
people
should
be
to
 begin
changing
the
environment
for
by
doing
this
you

begin
breaking
the
history
of
the
past
 off
people
thus
creating
for
them
a
new
history.
Jesus
when
entering
Sychar
meets
a
woman
 asking
 her
 for
 a
 drink.
 The
 first
 thing
 Jesus
 does
 is
 to
 begin
 cutting
 off
 the
 past
 of
 this
 woman
addressing
an
historical
issue
regarding
the
rape
of
Dinah
as
previously
outlined
in
 Geneses
33:18‐20
&
Joshua
24:32‐32.
Jacob
historically
had
bought
this
piece
of
land.
When
 Jesus
sought
to
touch
an
entire
environment
he
looks
for
a
person
as
was
the
issue
with
this
 woman.
Jesus
dealt
not
only
with
this
woman’s
history
but
dealt
with
her
religious
cultural
 belief
 system
 not
 to
 mention
 her
 sexual
 attachment
 so
 as
 to
 bring
 about
 a
 heavenly
 alignment.
The
water
that
he
gave
to
this
woman
was
a
well
springing
up
inside
of
her
all
of
 which
produced
eternal
life
within
her.



 When
people
enter
into
worship
the
heavens
are
not
always
reached
simply
because
people
 wrestle
 with
 their
 own
 internal
 struggles;
 for
 it
 is
 the
 struggles
 of
 people’s
 past,
 culture,
 present
sin
and
religious
traditional
mindset
thinking
patterns
which
prevents
people
from
 entering
into
the
spirit.
All
these
dimensions
were
operating
in
this
woman’s
life
when
Jesus
 encountered
her.
Whatever
was
going
on
in
this
woman
was
all
brought
to
an
end
through
 the
dimensions
of
the
Holy
Spirit,
dimensions
such
as...
 Her
past
was
cut
off:
What
the
devil
had
previously
began
Jesus
cuts
it
off
thus
changing
her
 history.
 Her
 cultural
 perspective
 was
 challenged
 as
 she
 was
 entering
 into
 new
 truth.
 –
 You
 Samaritans
 worship
 what
 you
 don’t
 know
 but
 we
 Jews
 worship
 what
 we
 do
 know’
 for
 by
 him
saying
this,
Jesus
unveiled
to
her
both
himself
as
Saviour
and
also
his
heavenly
father.

 He
challenged
her
present
state‐
The
man
you
now
have
is
not
your
husband
 He
 opened
 up
 the
 heavens
 to
 her:
 He
 gave
 her
 a
 new
 revelation
 of
 who
 she
 could
 now
 begin
to
connect
with.

The
purpose
of
worship
around
the
throne
is...
 To bring in a new day:
A
time
of
redefining
is
taking
place,
a
time
of
change
and
 urgency
because
heaven
is
looking
for
an
entrance
point
into
the
earth.
Jesus
when
entering
 in
to
Samaria
took
a
detour
because
he
knew
that
something
was
about
to
break
out
for
a
 new
 day
 albeit
 this
 move
 would
 start
 through
 a
 woman.
 It’s
 a
 new
 day
 because
 God
 is
 seeking
worshippers,
worshippers
who
pulsate
with
heavens
passion.
For
though
God’s
eyes
 run
 to
 and
 throw
 the
 earth,
 God
 isn’t
 looking
 for
 everyone
 he
 is
 looking
 for
 those
 whose
 hearts
are
fully
committed
to
him.

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To bring forth a new people:
 Not
 only
 is
 He,
 wanting
 a
 new
 day
 but
 a
 new
 people.
God
is
looking
for
a
new
company
of
people
such
as
sons
and
daughters
those
who
 have
come
to
know
him
as
their
father.
Many
worship
what
they
do
not
know
but
we
must
 worship
what
we
do
know.
This
group
of
people
found
worshipping
him
know
God
as
their
 father
for
they
know
how
to
present
worship
to
him
as
true
sons.
No
longer
is
our
worship
 going
to
be
presented
to
him
by
mere
salvation
only
but
be
presented
to
him
via
true
Son
 ship.
If
you
are
going
to
meet
God
then
you
have
to
come
to
him
by
key
requirements.
We
 no
longer
worship
by
ignorance
but
worship
through
our
knowledge
of
the
new
birth
a
birth
 which
has
brought
us
into
a
father
and
son
relationship
a
relationship
which
is
personal.

To see a new generation arise:
 Acts
 7:17
 This
 generation
 chosen
 is
 not
 a
 generation
that
can
be
won
by
music
or
stage
performance
but
is
chosen
by
a
clear
calling.
 You
 cannot
use
the
trapping
of
the
theatre
or
cinema
in
order
to
hold
 people
in
a
church
 God
 relationship
 but
 many
 do.
 Many
 churches
 are
 using
 the
 music,
 arts
 and
 technology
 hoping
 these
 things
 will
 hold
 people
 but
 sooner
 or
 later
 you
 must
 face
 God
 and
 face
 a
 relationship
 of
 obedience
 or
 disobedience.
 Often
 when
 these
 scaffoldings
 are
 removed
 people’s
lack
of
substance
is
exposed
for
its
not
good
enough
to
have
a
church
life
and
no
 God
life.
Men
and
women
are
often
a
product
of
their
environment
and
this
is
a
fact
hence
 why
we
need
a
different
environment
in
the
house
of
God.

To bring in a new order of worship accurate for touching heaven:
There
is
a
new
way
of
approaching
God
but
it
is
not
established
on
the
patterns
 of
 our
 fathers
 thinking
 in
 that
 Jesus
 when
 speaking
 to
 the
 Samaritan
 woman
 had
 to
 readdress
the
woman’s
predecessors
thinking
in
relation
to
how
they
should
worship.
Jesus
 corrected
 this
 inaccurate
 thinking
 patter
 by
 saying
 to
 her
 ‘you
 Samaritans
 say,
 ‘but?
 ‘you
 worship
what
you
don’t
know
yet
they
claimed
they
were
connected
to
the
same
forefather.
 People
 think
 because
 they
 are
 Christians
 they
 know
 worship
 but
 they
 do
 not
 know
 or
 understand
the
patterns
for
touching
the
throne.
 People attitudes when approaching worship 1. Those
who
worship
that
which
they
do
not
know:
There
are
those
who
sing
about
 him
but
do
not
know
him.
You
worship
what
you
don’t
know
but
we
worship
what
 we
do
know
said
Jesus
to
the
Samaritan
woman.
 2. Those
 who
 worship
 from
 a
 religious
 traditional
 and
 historical
 concept:
 These
 people
 sing
 about
 what
 Jesus
 did
 but
 have
 no
 concept
 of
 what
 he
 is
 doing
 now
 today.
 3. Those
 who
 sing
 and
 focus
 on
 the
 natural
 things
 of
 the
 earth:
 These
 are
 informed
 worshipers
 rather
 than
 transformed
 worshipers.
 They
 sing
 from
 that
 which
 they
 naturally
see
and
appreciate
limiting
their
perspective
to
the
natural
realm.

 4. Those
who
use
worship
him
in
order
to
gain
things
(selfish
seekers)
These
are
those
 who
 know
 and
 have
 tasted
 of
 his
 goodness
 and
 because
 they
 know
 of
 Gods

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goodness
toward
them
they
approach
him
with
an
ulterior
agenda.
They
never
have
 an
 understanding
 of
 the
 bigger
 picture
 as
 everything
 learned
 and
 received
 is
 interpreted
for
their
personal
gain.

 Those
who
cry
a
carry
a
sound
of
Abba
father
within
them
but
struggle
in
making
 him
 Lord
 and
 total
 authority
 over
 their
 life.
 Those
 who
 though
 they
 come
 to
 Him
 knowing
him
such
as
Peter
when
saying
‘thou
art,
the
son,
the
living,
and
the
God,
 for
 though
 they
 know
 him
 they
 lack
 the
 necessary
 submission.
 
 These
 people
 are
 dangerous
as
you
cannot
do
anything
with
an
un‐submitted
man
be
aware
they
are
 time
wasters.
 Those
who
have
seen
heard
touched
and
proclaim
him
for
these
are
the
unveiled
 ones.
These
are
people
who
have
learned
the
key
spiritual
technologies
needed
for
 opening
up
the
heavens
over
them.
They
know
how
to
please
and
draw
him
down
 into
their
midst.

 Those
 who
 worship
 from
 the
 throne
 rather
 from
 a
 platform
 as
 the
 throne
 is
 the
 base
 of
 all
 operations
 not
 the
 platform.
 Your
 status
 before
 man
 does
 not
 impress
 the
throne
room.
Spiritual
technologies
unlock
key
pathways
in
the
spirit
for
this
is
 what
gives
a
person
true
stature
before
God.

 Those
who
change
in
his
presence
and
are
then
changed
into
his
likeness.
There
are
 those
who
fully
represent
him
on
the
earth.
These
people
have
built
the
Christ
the
 one
 the
 living
 and
 the
 God
 into
 their
 lives
 hearts
 and
 minds.
 For
 these
 people
 the
 heavens
are
only
a
call
away
whereas
for
most
believers
they
need
a
church
service
 in
order
for
them
to
touch
heaven.

We
don’t
want
or
need
traditional
worship
but
we
do
need
a
fresh
relational
way
of
living
 and
of
touching
the
throne.
A
clear
and
fresh
conscience
is
now
ours
in
the
throne
room
as
 this
 is
 the
 new
 dynamic
 order
 of
 worship
 for
 the
 old
 order
 could
 never
 cleanse
 you
 from
 your
past
but
now
we
can
become
righteous
in
his
sight.
Isaiah
taught
us
that
even
though
 you
 feel
 like
 a
 man
 with
 unclean
 lips
 this
 new
 order
 allows
 us
 to
 worship
 him
 from
 the
 throne
 which
 for
 us
 is
 a
 fresh
 and
 living
 way.
 The
 old
 order
 says,
 you
 must
 feel
 good
 to
 approach
God
which
is
nothing
more
than
religion
and
tradition.

 The dimensions around the throne will bring Gods presence near as we worship him:
The
presence
of
God
will
respond
to
the
condition
of
our
hearts.
You
never
have
to
 worry
about
God
at
all
for
if
your
heart
pulsates
for
him
he
will
come.
Where
ever
there
is
a
cry
or
 fire
the
Holy
Ghost
will
come
to
you.
Remember
the
phrase
from
Jesus
with
regards
to
the
woman
 touching
 the
 hem
 of
 his
 garments
 in
 the
 crowd
 due
 to
 her
 illness.
 
 Jesus
 said,
 ‘who
 touched
 me?
 Peter
 replied,
 ‘who
 touched
 you,
 ‘what
 do
 you
 mean
 Lord
 It’s
 a
 crowd.
 
 Jesus
 said;
 this
 was
 no
 ordinary
touch
Peter
for
that
was
a
touch
of
faith.
Do
you
know
that
kind
of
touch
Peter?
Peter
says
 the
charismatic’s
haven’t
taught
me
this
type
of
touch
yet
Lord,
well
Peter,
you
better
get
to
know
it
 for
 you
 are
 going
 to
 need
 it
 where
 you’re
 going
 for
 if
 I
 am
 to
 build
 my
 church
 through
 you,
 you

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get
to
know
it.

God
isn’t
going
too
far
away
but
when
we
worship
that
which
we
know
we
 rudely
begin
to
be
awakened
by
the
breath
of
God
upon
our
face.
 There
is
no
school
or
lessons
in
which
a
bird
can
enrol
in
order
they
learn
to
sing
and
why
because
a
 bird
was
made
to
naturally
sing
showing
us
they
naturally
use
that
which
has
been
given
to
them
to
 bless
and
enrich
the
world
and
so
should
we.

The dimensions around the throne will bring to us a fresh revelation of God. 
There
will
always
be
an
aspect
of
God
that
you
do
not
know
but
what
you
don’t
know
will
be
 brought
to
you.
Isaiah
6
Holy,
Holy,
Holy
is
what
is
sung
every
time
the
angels
cry
they
see
a
new
 facet
of
God
a
new
measure
is
released
to
them.
We
will
not
only
know
God
as
the
creator
of
the
 universe
but
now
we
will
know
him
as
father.
Moses
generations
knew
him
as
creator
but
never
a
 father.
The
angels
teach
us
about
heaven
for
their
language
and
content
are
used
for
though
they
 know
 him
 they
 don’t
 know
 God
 as
 their
 father
 and
 Saviour
 for
 this
 is
 our
 revelation
 hence
 why
 angels
long
to
look
into
that
which
we
say
and
have
entered
into.
Why
is
man
so
mindful
that
you
 made
 him
 lower
 than
 the
 angels
 is
 the
 question
 they
 ask.
 Angels
 say,
 hey
 God,
 these
 guys
 don’t
 know
your
throne
like
we
do,
they
really
do
not
know
your
throne
like
we
do.
We
sit
and
function
 around
your
presence
but
they
have
to
make
an
appointment
every
Sunday
to
get
where
we
are.
We
 are
surely
better
than
they
are
and
God
says
to
them,
you
guys
better
know
your
place
and
position
 for
remember
what
happened
to
the
last
guy
who
wanted
what
I
carry?
You
are
created
to
do
my
 will
but
you
can
never
know
what
they
know.

The dimension around the throne will bring a new perspective of operation:
We
worship
him
who
really
is
at
the
throne
as
we
see
him
from
his
perspective.
He
is
 sovereign
and
everything
is
governed
by
the
throne.
Nothing
escapes
the
attention
of
the
one
on
the
 throne.
Judgement
of
the
earth
is
regulated
by
what
takes
place
at
the
throne.
The
cross
no
longer
 becomes
the
centrality
as
the
cross
is
where
we
first
saw
the
light
but
now
at
the
throne
the
light
 becomes
clearer.

The dimensions around the throne are breaking out because the kingdom is breaking out.
His
government
and
ruler
ship
all
breaks
out
when
he
receives
true
worship.
At
 the
throne
he
receives
all
power
dominion
as
it
is
him
who
is
both
Lord
and
Christ.
When
worship
is
 established
around
the
throne
a
new
level
of
dominion
takes
place.

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New
session
 Revelation
1:1
&
verse
10‐
I
was
in
the
spirit
on
the
Lord’s
Day

Three dimensions of being in the spirit When
we
are
in
the
spirit
God
allows
us
to
see
dimension
such
as
 Verse
19
things
of
the
Past
 Things
that
are
taking
place‐
in
the
Present
 Things
that
will
take
place
–
In
the
future


 Revelation
4:6
&
Revelation
15:2
Speaking
of
the
sea
of
glass.
In
chapter
four
it
was
empty
 but
 by
 chapter
 fifteen
 its’
 full
 with
 those
 coming
 through
 the
 tribulation
 showing
 us
 that
 when
you
are
in
the
spirit
you
can
see
in
many
and
various
dimension.

In the spirit world there are no time restrictions.
He
who
is
and
is
the
one
 to
 come
 for
 God
 is
 time
 and
 when
 he
 moves
 he
 is
 on
 time
 showing
 us
 that
 God
 is
 not
 controlled
 by
 or
 governed
 by
 time.
 In
 the
 presence
 of
 God
 time
 is
 suspended
 hence
 why
 when
you
are
around
the
throne
time
stands
still
as
it
doesn’t
seem
to
impose
upon
your
 body
or
mind.
Moses
was
on
the
mountain
for
forty
days
and
forty
nights
without
food
or
 sleep
showing
us
that
in
the
presence
of
God
even
your
physical
body
along
with
its
fleshly
 desires
are
suspended.

When we are in the spirit we see him as he is as He is being revealed to us.
When
we
see
him
we
don’t
get
the
full
revelation
only
the
revelation
 that
he
desires
to
be
revealed
to
us.
When
we
are
in
the
spirit
we
see
in
part
yet
as
we
stay
 in
 the
 spirit
 there
 will
 be
 other
 times
 where
 more
 and
 more
 revelation
 will
 come
 to
 us.
 When
more
and
more
revelations
comes
we
call
it
video
download
say
like
that
of
YouTube
 as
YouTube
allows
you
to
download
videos
in
ten
minute
slots.

When we are in the spirit our experiences is as real as when you are in person.
Revelation
1:1
&
Hebrews
6.
You
can
feel
it.
All
your
mind
body
and
spirit
 is
all
intact
your
soul
is
intact
your
emotions
are
intact.
New
age
teaches
this
differently
in
 that
they
say;
when
we
are
in
the
spirit
our
spirit
leaves
our
body.
This
is
inaccurate
for
our
 whole
 body
 is
 caught
 up
 in
 the
 spirit
 not
 just
 our
 mind
 or
 our
 soul
 for
 we
 are
 caught
 up
 wholly
and
fully
intact.
2
Corinthians
12
Paul
says
the
whole
man
was
caught
up
for
he
felt
it
 was
so
real
that
he
said
‘I
was
caught
up
in
the
spirit
not
just
caught
up
in
an
experience
but
 his
whole
body
was
caught
up.
The
more
you
live
in
the
spirit
your
flesh
and
the
pleasures
of
 the
 flesh
 life
 begin
 to
 fade
 as
 your
 body
 now
 craves
 and
 desires
 dimensional
 food.
 You
 cannot
 say
 that
 you
 have
 a
 ministry
 of
 prayer
 then
 be
 overweight.
 You
 cannot
 enter
 the
 dimensions
of
the
spirit
realm
and
be
alive
in
the
flesh
on
the
other
side.

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When you are in the spirit there are different dimensions of the spirit world:
John
says
he
was
in
the
spirit
on
the
Lord’s
Day
but
now
in
chapter
two
and
 three
 he
 sees
 different
 dimensions
 as
 he
 sees
 the
 candle
 stick
 which
 is
 Jesus
 as
 well
 as
 seeing
what
Jesus
was
doing.
There
are
dimensions
in
the
spirit
that
allows
you
to
be
here
 on
the
earth
yet
allows
you
to
cross
over
into
the
heavenly
world.
There
are
dimensions
that
 allows
 you
 to
 feel
 see
 and
 touch
 things
 you
 naturally
 cannot
 feel
 see
 and
 touch
 although
 you
are
physically
still
on
the
earth.
In
the
spirit
dimension
you
can
be
very
sensitive
to
what
 God
 is
 doing
 but
 with
 sensitivity
 there
must
 also
 be
 discernment.
 Prophetic
 seeing
 should
 not
just
see
but
must
learn
to
discern.
A
person
can
say
you
have
desires
but
another
level
 sees
that
which
is
in
your
heart
is
not
of
God.

When you are in the spirit the revelations of God become clearer and clearer so that you can respond accurately and clearly with him.
In
our
daily
life
we
know
very
little
of
the
Jesus
we
say
we
know
and
live
with
hence
 why
 we
 must
 learn
 more
 about
 him
 simply
 by
 learning
 to
 entering
 into
 new
 spirit
 dimension.
You
cannot
live
with
little
substance
on
the
other
side
for
to
go
their
frequently
 takes
 substance.
 Séances
 around
 the
 world
 are
 fascinated
 with
 knowing
 what
 is
 on
 the
 other
side
so
much
so
they
will
do
anything
to
touch
it.
Only
recently
on
British
television
a
 séance
programme
was
on
TV
in
order
to
connect
with
the
spirit
of
the
recently
deceased
 Michael
Jackson
in
2009.
We
who
know
that
we
can
enter
the
other
side
for
we
know
that
if
 the
one
speaking
to
us
is
not
the
Holy
Spirit
then
the
one
speaking
is
the
deceiver
himself.
 The
spirit
leads
us
into
all
truth
hence
why
we
can
cross
over
into
the
throne
room.
Peter
 was
allowed
to
see
into
the
other
side
when
seeing
Jesus
on
the
mount
of
transfiguration.
 When
you
enter
and
things
are
revealed
new
instructions
come
to
you
such
as
don’t
weep,
 don’t
 bow,
 ‘take
 your
 shoes
 off,
 for
 if
 you
 take
 familiarity
 on
 to
 the
 other
 side
 you
 are
 in
 trouble
for
it
will
save
you
if
you
understand
this.

When we are in the spirit there is a difference between sight and vision.
Sight
is
what
you
see
but
vision
is
what
he
gives
to
you
and
wants
you
to
see.
As
 you
are
praying
in
the
spirit
you
may
see
waterfalls
and
a
dove
these
are
not
a
message,
for
 you
are
just
passing
through
albeit
whilst
using
your
sight.
On
the
journey
you
see
sights
but
 vision
 must
 carry
 a
 language
 of
 the
 spirit.
 When
 you
 see
 bridges
 waterfalls
 and
 hear
 the
 fluttering
of
wings
this
is
just
to
let
you
know
where
you
are
but
once
this
dimension
and

 reality
is
over
you
must
hear
in
order
to
see
the
vision.
When
you
are
driving
your
eyes
are
 seeing
many
things
but
your
vision
must
be
focused
so
you
stay
accurately
connected
to
the
 road.
Remember
in
Isaiah
6
Isaiah
saw
the
door
shake
as
well
as
see
the
post
of
the
temple
 shake
along
with
the
foundations
as
all
this
did
not
distract
him
from
seeing
the
vision
of
his
 own
lips
being
unclean
and
from
this
he
receives
a
message
to
go
and
preach
his
message
 till
everyone
is
lost
and
there
is
a
stump
left
in
the
land.

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When we are in the spirit you must fine tune your spirit in order to pick up detail and accuracy.
 What
 we
 are
 hearing
 to
 date
 is
 preparation
 for
 the
 greater
dimensions
to
come.
Your
spirit
man
has
to
become
more
and
more
clearer
so
much
 so
that
from
one
look
you
see
many
dimensions.
You
must
have
and
develop
the
power
of
 observation
in
its
purest
form.
In
your
walk
with
God
you
must
be
developed
internally
for
 as
you
develop
internally
you
will
learn
to
eventually
pick
up
inaccuracies
and
false
doctrine.
 You
 cannot
 pick
 up
 a
 little
 here
 and
 a
 little
 there
 for
 this
 is
 dangerous
 as
 it
 is
 dangerous
 doctrines
that
are
created
by
devils
but
instilled
and
spoken
by
man.
The
greatest
example
 of
this
was
Peter
when
saying
thou
art
the
Lord,
‘the
Christ
and
‘the
Son
of
God
only
then
 (Mark
9:6)
for
him
to
say
Lord
you
shall
never
die.
Peter
heard
and
saw
a
dimension
of
the
 spirit
but
he
didn’t
stop
to
pick
up
the
whole
revelation
 When you are in the spirit dimension God has to give you the ability to discern the things that are and are not of Him.
 Human
 spirit,
 demonic
 spirit,
 angelic
spirit
and
Holy
Spirit
You
must
have
the
ability
to
know
the
right
spirit
source.
Paul
 said,
‘even
if
another
angel
comes
to
you
and
preaches
another
gospel
don’t
entertain
it.
 When you are in the spirit the duration of time and prophetic timing is difficult to measure.
If
I
am
on
the
mountain
looking
to
the
sea
I
can
say
its
five
miles
 away
and
be
inaccurate.
If
I
go
up
higher
the
sea
looks
closer
and
closer.
When
prophetically
 giving
an
utterance
don’t
say
in
five
years
or
six
years
time
just
say,
‘sometime
in
the
future.

 You
must
be
able
to
develop
the
spirit
clarity
whereby
you
hear
without
guess
work.


 When you are in the spirit previous negative emotional feelings can surface showing us that the soul has leftovers from previous bad experiences. It is these emotions alive within us which can cause us to read things inaccurately.
All
these
negative
emotions
come
about
by
bad
experiences
 and
they
can
prejudice
us
clouding
us
from
seeing
clearly
if
not
careful.
If
your
spirit
is
hurt
 and
wounded
then
what
you
pick
up
can
be
disastrous.
When
your
soul
is
incomplete
your
 spirit
 will
 project
 your
 soul
 as
 your
 soul
 is
 connected
 to
 your
 spirit.
 If
 a
 fly
 lands
 on
 the
 projector
the
image
is
magnified
but
the
fly
is
small
but
what
gets
magnified
it
is
because
of
 that
which
landed
inside
of
you.
Your
soul
is
always
trying
to
project
things
on
to
others.
 When you are in the spirit you must handle sin consciousness and self consciousness accurately by overriding it with a God consciousness.
 Whenever
you
step
in
to
the
spirit,
ask
yourself
what
potentially
is
able
to
hold
you
back?
 Both
 a
 satanic
 consciousness
 and
 a
 people
 consciousness
 can
 hold
 you
 back.
 When
 you
 worry
about
flesh
you
completely
ignore
the
sin
consciousness.
The
God
who
is
above
you
is
 sovereign
so
ask
the
Holy
Ghost
to
bring
you
into
place
of
inner
peace.

The
moment
you
 turn
 to
 self
 interest
 fixing
 your
 thoughts
 onto
 yourself
 rather
 than
 onto
 God
 you
 are
 in
 trouble.
You
cannot
turn
your
mind
to
self
interest
and
call
it
God
for
if
you
do
this
you
will
 open
the
door
for
satanic
movement.
Peter
shows
us
how
self
interest
will
try
to
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movements
into
our
midst.
Matthew
16
Blessed
are
you
Bar‐Jonah
meaning
when
you
are
 connected
 to
 God
 you
 are
 safe.
 The
 next
 chapter
 verse
 17
 Peter
 then
 speaks
 for
 ‘himself
 showing
us
that
Peter
separated
himself
from
his
God
consciousness
as
Peter
operated
on
 three
different
channels,
God
self
and
Satan.
 When you are in the spirit you may be either provoked by other spirits or even inspired by them.
 Paul
 said
 when
 you
 all
 gather
 together
 and
 my
 spirit
 gathers
 with
you
showing
us
that
either
God
can
gather
in
our
midst
or
other
spirits
can
also
gather
 for
when
we
gather
remember
other
spirits
of
a
different
nature
want
to
join
with
us.
Just
 because
you
are
in
the
spirit
doesn’t
mean
you
will
not
enter
into
deception
and
error.
You
 don’t
enter
error
by
what
God
is
showing
you
but
enter
by
being
enticed
by
another
spirit.
 Remember
 as
 your
 flesh
 begins
 turning
 towards
 lust
 and
 other
 flesh
 appealing
 thoughts
 doors
open
for
spirits
to
enter
this
a
door
is
open
for
them
to
cross
over.
 When you are in the spirit your own sprit will be made perfect making us better and better.
 Zion
 is
 a
 place
 where
 the
 spirits
 of
 man
 are
 made
 perfect
 and
 are
 perfected
 in
 his
 presence.
 When
 you
 enter
 the
 spirit
 realm,
 the
 Holy
 Spirit
 must
 be
 given
 room
to
perfect
and
remodel
himself
in
and
through
you.

 When I am in the spirit I can either be caught up in the holy place or in the Holy of Holies.
In
the
holy
place
I
meet
the
presence
of
God
whereas
in
the
Holy
of
 Holies
I
meet
the
person
of
God.
We
can
either
be
in
the
Holy
of
Holies
or
in
the
presence
of
 God.
We
must
seek
to
experience
all
things
so
we
can
be
accurately
tuned
to
that
which
is
 holy
righteous
and
true.
If
you
don’t
have
the
word
of
God
both
in
your
heart
and
mind
and
 then
 you
 step
 into
 the
 spirit
 realm
 you
 are
 in
 trouble.
 This
 is
 why
 musicians
 today
 are
 in
 trouble
because
ninety
nine
percent
of
them
don’t
have
or
carry
a
word
within
their
hearts
 and
mind
for
they
use
songs
when
trying
to
enter
into
spirit
dimensions
but
never
word.
The
 revival
that
must
take
place
is
the
revival
of
the
spirit
and
of
the
word
for
not
one
or
the
 other
but
both.

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New
Session
 Revelation
1
&
chapter
2
John
meets
the
one
walking
amongst
the
candle
stick
 John
sees
the
one
walking
with
the
candle
stick
relating
with
God
the
father.
God
is
not
only
 there
but
is
living
there
with
the
Holy
Spirit.
In
that
place
the
book
with
name
of
the
saints
 written
in
it
as
everything
centres
on
and
around
the
throne.
The
one
who
he
saw
is
the
one
 walking
amongst
the
church.
 Revelation
4
and
5
are
chapters
that
Centre
around
the
throne
as
everything
that
is
worth
 seeing
is
functioning
around
the
throne.
 Worship
 must
 not
 be
 centre
 around
 skills
 for
 it
 was
 Abraham
 that
 said
 we
 must
 go
 up
 yonder
 to
 worship.
 Jacob
 didn’t
 carry
 the
 song
 books
 nor
 did
 Abraham
 carry
 his
 guitar
 though
they
were
going
to
worship
for
the
only
thing
that
was
carried
was
firewood
and
a
 spirit
 ready
 for
 self
 sacrifice
 but
 there
 was
 definitely
 no
 music.
 Take
 musical
 instruments
 away
and
you
find
out
what
worship
you
really
have
in
the
church.
Abrahams
worship
was
 from
 the
 heart
 of
 a
 covenanted
 man
 rather
 than
 from
 the
 songbook.
 The
 only
 hill
 that
 Abraham
saw
was
not
Hillsong
but
the
hill
of
the
lord
as
he
ascended
it
in
order
to
worship.


 4.5
 12,
 14,15,
 19
 to
 22
 all
 these
 are
 chapters
 of
 Revelation
 that
 need
 studying
 before
 the
 other
chapters
as
the
other
are
always
interpreted
in
the
light
of
present
day
troubles
and
 traditional
teachings
and
all
these
do
are
confuse
and
pollute
people.

 Revelation
4:1‐11
This
was
the
revelation
of
the
churches
which
are
dispensations
of
time
 mentioned.
(read
also
Revelation
3).
Though
What
John
was
seeing
was
that
which
was
to
 take
place
upon
the
earth;
what
he
now
sees
is
that
which
takes
place
in
the
throne
room
 albeit
by
seeing
the
one
who
is
the
head
of
the
church.
If
you
look
at
the
natural
church
you
 would
be
dissatisfied
but
if
you
can
look
at
the
one
who
is
at
the
centre
of
the
church
you
 become
very
hopeful.
It
is
so
easy
to
see
the
natural
condition
of
the
church
and
think
this
is
 our
 lot
 but
 if
 we
 see
 from
 the
 perspective
 of
 the
 one
 who
 is
 looking
 for
 a
 bride
 then
 the
 church
 is
 powerful
 for
 the
 one
 who
 sees
 the
 church
 possess
 the
 power
 to
 become.
 After
 John
walks
amongst
the
candlestick
he
begins
to
see
the
true
state
of
the
church.
 John’s natural interpretation of what the natural church
Looked like

 In revelation
Questions
that
every
church
must
ask.

1. Every
church
has
a
specific
message
and
dimension
given
to
it
 2. Every
church
in
the
book
of
revelation
had
its
own
level
of
faith

 3. Every
church
needed
to
understand
the
revelation
of
God
given
as
this
 is
a
key
to
overcoming
the
spirit
of
the
age
in
our
era.
If
God
is
your
father
 then
you
are
to
become
his
sons
for
its
only
when
you
become
a
true
son
in
Christ
 that
you
truly
become
protected.

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4. Each and every church needs to evaluate their own spiritual state by knowing its own condition thus working out its own salvation. 5. Every church must receive counsel wisdom and provision in order for it to be faithful in its generation.
Remember
where
you
fell
put
it
right
 and
then
I
will
come
to
you
giving
you
the
right
to
eat
from
the
tree
of
life
so
don’t
 grow
weary.
Whatever
is
right
stay
on
course
and
don’t
move.
 6. Every church needed to discover the reason for its own spiritual state. I
 know
 your
 deeds
 but
 I
 have
 this
 against
 you
 says
 the
 spirit
 of
 God
 as
 a
 spiritual
decline
had
been
highlighted.

 7. Every church must have prophetic promises. To him who overcomes I will give says revelation.
 
 John
sees
the
state
of
the
seven
churches
for
when
he
sees
this
it
is
easy
for
ones
hope
to
 become
dashed.
We
must
remember
this
is
not
the
future
state
of
the
church
that
John
is
 seeing
but
the
present
state
of
the
seven
churches.
Jesus
has
to
take
John
out
so
that
he
can
 begin
 to
 see
 everything
 from
 heavens
 perspective
 rather
 from
 an
 earthly
 perspective.
 Seeing
the
heavenly
bride
coming
down
from
Jerusalem
is
the
centrality
of
the
focus
here
 for
 we
 must
 see
 it
 from
 the
 thrones
 perspective
 rather
 than
 from
 an
 earthly
 perspective.
 You
must
see
both
the
present
and
the
future
state
as
to
see
just
the
natural
church
is
only
 one
 dimension
 but
 we
 must
 remember
 that
 there
 is
 something
 higher
 stronger
 and
 more
 powerful
 hence
 why
 we
 must
 go
 higher.
 If
 everything
 is
 earthly
 we
 will
 not
 go
 higher.
 If
 every
need
is
met
by
the
natural
church
then
we
will
never
need
a
supernatural
encounter.
 We
must
see
that
the
church
did
not
first
start
on
the
earth
but
in
heaven
as
this
is
where
 we
must
see
our
purpose
and
function
in
order
we
polarise
around
the
right
things.

Acts
2:32‐41
 Doctrine
verses
experience:
This
is
the
beginning
of
the
gospel
as
Peter
 begins
describing
to
the
crowd
that
heaven
could
not
explode
until
it
first
found
a
human
 body
to
manifest
through
and
the
one
that
it
did
manifest
through
was
the
one
the
religious
 system
 crucified.
 God
 is
 looking
 for
 a
 human
 body
 to
 flow
 through
 and
 one
 that
 has
 no
 limitations.
 You
 crucified
 this
 man
 but
 God
 raised
 him
 back
 to
 life
 says
 Peter.
 No
 matter
 what
 man
 might
 try
 and
 do
 the
 life
 in
 you
 must
 swallow
 up
 the
 death
 functioning
 within
 you.
 Peter
 said,’
This
was
the
man
given
through
the
foreknowledge
of
God
for
the
grave
was
removed
 even
 though
 you
 had
 other
 plans
 for
 neither
 man;
 nor
 death
 could
 stop
 him
 from
 his
 assignment
 for
 this
 was
 the
 revelation
 that
 Peter
 threw
 out
 at
 them
 on
 the
 day
 of
 Pentecost.
Not
only
has
he
died
and
rose
up
again
but
now
he
is
sat
at
the
right
hand
of
God
 giving
 him
 a
 position
 of
 ruling
 and
 reigning
 with
 his
 father.
 The
 people
 were
 asking
 why
 tongues
 were
 breaking
 out.
 Notice
 Peter
 was
 not
 part
 of
 the
 Charismatic
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explaining
 the
 use
 of
 tongues
 for
 the
 first
 thing
 that
 Peter
 did
 was
 to
 link
 them
 to
 the
 purpose
of
the
church
through
accurate
doctrine.
 He receives a name higher than every other name as now he is honoured.
 At
 this
 name
 every
 name
 under
 and
 above
 heaven
 has
 to
 bow.
 Powers
 principalities
 and
 rulers
all
have
to
cease
at
the
name
meaning
not
even
his
personhood
but
they
just
bow
at
 the
sound
of
his
name.

 He received a promise of the Holy Spirit the same spirit was to give to all those who are called by his name and are born of his nature.
The
same
spirit
 that
was
on
Jesus
is
the
same
one
that
would
be
given
to
us.
 The father makes a pledge to the son:
 sit
 at
 my
 right
 hand
 until
 I
 make
 all
 your
 enemies
a
footstool.
God
says;
you
have
finished
your
work
sit
here
now
and
God
himself
 will
now
go
down
to
make
all
those
who
are
the
enemies
of
Christ
his
footstool.

 The
 church
 that
 broke
 out
 had
 no
 musicians
 no
 church
 building
 no
 technologies
 but
 they
 had
the
power
of
the
Holy
Ghost
they
had
the
word
and
the
spirit
for
they
had
revival
and
 why
because
God
had
broken
out
amongst
them.
 Let all of Israel know for certain:
They
could
have
stoned
him
by
saying
this
Lord
is
 Lord
of
both
Jew
and
Gentile
thus
shutting
down
all
his
operations.
Peter
by
saying
‘no
Jew,
 wiped
out
the
entire
Jewish
nations
operations
and
religious
practices
reducing
the
Jew
and
 his
traditions
saying
if
you
want
to
be
a
Jew
then
God
will
no
longer
accept
you
as
a
Jew
but
 the
Jew
must
now
understand
the
plan
has
gone
from
one
race
towards
the
globalisation
of
 many
nations.

 
 Seeing the church of the first born from a heavenly perspective.

John’s
Eight
fold
heavenly
vision
(Revelation
4)
 Casa:
 meaning
 the
 seat
 of
 a
 judge.
 Thronos:
 Greek
 a
 seat
 of
 a
 ruler
 power
 or
 authority.
 Cronos
meaning,
his
ruler‐ship.
Psalm
89:14,
97:2,
Proverbs
20:28
 The
sealed
book
was
open
and
now
John
gets
a
glimpse
of
what
was
being
written.
Nothing
 in
revelation
can
happen
without
the
throne.

 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

He
saw
the
heavenly
door:
Behold
I
saw
a
door
opening
in
heaven
 He
heard
a
heavenly
trumpet
 He
saw
the
heavenly
one
upon
the
throne
 He
observed
the
heavenly
elders:
4
and
20
=24

 He
 also
 saw
 the
 heavenly
 creatures.
 Verse
 8
 these
 are
 the
 creatures
 who
 led
 in
 worship
as
they
moved
and
spoke
for
as
they
did
worship
began.
Lion,
calf,
eagle,
Ox

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and
 the
 face
 of
 man.
 Revelation
 1:18
 all
 the
 creatures
 displayed
 order
 as
 all
 movements
need
divine
order
 6. He
saw
the
worship
of
the
first
born
church
 7. He
saw
the
lamb
and
the
throne
 8. He
saw
the
books
that
were
sealed;
books
that
no
one
could
open
accept
the
lamb.
 Four
dimensions
of
God
 1. God
is
a
spirit
who
is
a
person
who
is
sat
upon
a
throne
 2. God
is
light
for
this
is
the
glory
that
we
see
when
worshiping
him
for
as
we
see
him,
 there
 is
 a
 parallel
 with
 that
 of
 the
 gem
 stone
 which
 in
 this
 case
 was
 jasper
 as
 it
 is
 clear.
 3. God
 is
 a
 consuming
 fire
 which
 is
 his
 nature
 that
 we
 personally
 know
 and
 have
 inherited.
Sardis
is
a
fiery
red
stone
speaking
and
symbolising
the
blood
and
how
it
 atones
for
us
and
how
the
fire
purifies
us.
 4. God
is
love
for
this
is
the
expression
that
we
feel.
Emerald
is
a
token
of
his
love.
 If
you
see
the
throne
it
is
not
a
hierarchal
system
for
it
has
power
to
reproduce
its
self
as
it
 reproduces
its
self
in
the
sons
of
God.
Everyone
in
God
can
have
a
corporate
connected
life
 as
well
as
an
individual
life
of
their
own
because
the
kingdom
is
not
hierarchal.
Even
though
 we
have
an
individual
life
our
life
can
never
outshine
his
throne.




 Verse
6:
before
flashing
lights
and
thunder
the
sea
of
glass
speaks
of
our
positioning
as
this
 is
where
we
are
brought
in.
 Revelation
is
not
a
type
or
shadow
as
revelation
is
our
finishing
point.
It
takes
revelation
five
 for
the
seals
to
be
opened.

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New
Session

Church unusual and the dimensions which allow us to interact with heaven There
are
dimensions
of
church
still
to
be
held
on
the
other
side
and
this
we
call
heaven.
 Lucy
 walks
 through
 the
 wardrobe
 in
 the
 film
 Chronicles
 of
 Narnia
 and
 meets
 Thomas
 for
 Lucy
 the
 wardrobe
 was
 simply
 a
 place
 a
 portal
 which
 allowed
 her
 to
 pass
 through
 to
 the
 other
side.

 Genesis
28:
10‐17
A
certain
place
as
it
is
described
is
a
place
or
a
portal
that
must
be
opened
 in
order
for
the
heavens
to
touch
the
earth.
The
other
side
as
it
is
often
termed
by
séances
 and
 various
 other
 magic
 practioners
 is
 a
 fascination
 that
 everyone
 wants
 to
 know
 more
 about
before
death
occurs.
The
reason
why
the
ladder
drops
from
the
heavens
to
the
earth
 is
not
for
angels
as
angels
do
not
need
ladders
the
ladder
is
there
for
us
to
climb
and
ascend
 so
 as
 we
 can
 see
 the
 other
 side.
 
 When
 you
 climb
 the
 ladder
 you
 begin
 to
 experience
 different
things
but
that
which
you
see
is
only
just
one
part
of
the
experience
hence
why
we
 must
not
get
caught
up
in
experiences.

Remember
the
ladder
has
runs
on
it
showing
us
for
 every
run
embarked
upon
you
see
things
differently
and
from
a
different
perceptive
as
you
 make
the
journey
of
coming
up.



 Jacob
said
after
transecting
with
God
‘if
you
bless
me
I
will
get
back
to
you
for
you
are
the
 God
of
my
father
and
Grandfather
but
you
are
not
my
God
yet.
Jacob
thought
to
himself;
‘I
 like
the
experience
that
you
gave
me
for
all
those
angels
running
up
and
down
the
ladder
is
 really
 cool,
 God
 and
 all
 the
 angelic
 creatures
 even
 Steven
 Spielberg
 couldn’t
 design
 those
 but
when
I
get
back
we
will
cut
a
deal
but,
by
the
way
how
awesome
is
this
place
definitely
 one
of
my
most
to
visit
places.

 Stereo typical thinking when it comes to understanding the power of a certain meeting place. 1. 2. 3. 4.

This
is
a
Common
place‐reveals
a
person’s
inner
sense
of
pride
 This
is
a
Boring
place‐
A
person’s
wrong
attitude

 This
is
a
Place
called
Know
where‐
A
persons
inner
frustration
and
impatience

 This
is
an
Unusual
place
–surprised
and
optimistic

Most
churches
don’t
climb
the
ladder
and
subsequently
they
never
are
able
to
pass
through
 to
 the
 other
 side
 nor
 are
 they
 able
 to
 open
 up
 the
 portal
 and
 enter
 into
 something
 new.
 Many
use
the
platform
to
perform
rather
than
connect
people
to
the
other
side
and
those
 that
do
enter
tend
to
get
caught
up
in
the
watching
of
appearing
angels
as
they

ascend
and
 descend
as
this
is
typical
of
Charismania.
Always
remember
angels
don’t
need
ladders
the
 ladder
was
for
Jacob
not
for
the
angels.
Jacob
was
just
like
many
believers
when
saying
to
 God,
 if
 you
 bless
 me
 and
 make
 my
 way
 good
 then
 I
 will
 try
 and
 make
 it
 to
 church.
 Even

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Jacob’s
 wife
 was
 a
 swindler
 and
 a
 liar
 as
 she
 had
 been
 trained
 by
 Jacob.
 She
 stole
 her
 father’s
idols
and
then
hid
them
so
she
could
go
and
worship
all
this
was
the
natural.
There
 is
a
ladder
to
climb
and
the
heavens
to
encounter
but
we
refuse
to
climb
and
enter
into
all
 that
 our
 father
 has
 for
 us
 and
 because
 of
 this
 the
 place
 we
 function
 and
 labour
 in
 never
 becomes
a
certain
awesome
place
a
place
of
encounter
for
us.



 Genesis
helps
Jacob
understand
that
this
uncertain
place
is
a
place
called
church
unusual
a
 place
where
pathways
for
transecting
with
God
are
opened.

 Jabok is the second stage of Jacob transecting with God and him coming to faith. Genesis
 44:26
 Judah
 speaks
 on
 behalf
 of
 his
 father.
 Rachel
 was
 the
 love
 of
 Jacob’s
 heart
 even
though
he
had
two
wives.
Now
at
Jabok
the
same
angel
that
was
on
the
other
side
of
 his
experience
is
now
found
dealing
with
him.
Before
Jacobs
angelic
experience
his
brother
 Esau
was
at
war
with
him
hence
why
Jacob
was
on
the
run.
Soon
as
Jacob
meets
the
angel
 and
wrestles
with
him
he
is
instantly
changed
so
much
so
that
he
now
wants
to
go
out
in
 order
 to
 deal
 with
 his
 brother
 putting
 things
 right.
 Esau
 hugs
 him
 and
 lets
 him
 go
 even
 though
there
was
hatred
between
them
both.
All
the
weapons
of
our
warfare
work
for
us
to
 push
 even
 our
 enemies
 away
 from
 our
 midst
 when
 we
 climb
 the
 ladder
 and
 come
 to
 the
 place
called
change.
 Don’t
 fill
 your
 time
 with
 singing
 songs
 but
 use
 your
 songs
 with
 the
 time
 that
 you
 have
 to
 build
 and
 touch
 the
 other
 side.
 Our
 services
 must
 be
 able
 to
 have
 one
 song
 and
 we
 all
 corporately
enter
in
that’s
how
it
should
be
rather
than
us
wasting
all
our
time
jumping
and
 sweating
only
to
touch
nothing.
(This
is
the
dream
centres
practice
and
behaviour
not
a
trial)
 Worship
 is
 much
 more
 than
 just
 expressing
 self
 but
 instead
 is
 a
 time
 for
 climbing
 and
 transecting
with
the
God
on
the
other
side.
If
angels
act
in
certain
honourable
ways
such
as
 bowing
and
crying
Holy,
Holy
how
can
we
continue
having
Sunday
service
the
way
we
do?
 There
are
many
Jacobs
found
in
the
church
but
the
word
of
the
Lord
to
them
is
that
‘Jacob,
 ‘it
is
time
you
changed
for
you
must
transect
with
God
differently
for
you
cannot
continue
 to
operate
any
other
way.

 Bethel
was
so
important
for
Jacob,
for
him
being
at
Bethel
was
the
way
that
he
learned
to
 transect
with
God
when
meeting
him
face
to
face.
There
has
to
be
a
place
of
completeness
 and
 wholeness
 in
 all
 our
 lives.
 Geneses
 35:6‐10
 God
 brings
 Jacob
 back
 to
 Bethel
 because
 Bethel
 is
 the
 place
 a
 reminder
 of
 the
 way
 we
 must
 now
 operate.
 Jacob
 say’s
 to
 his
 own
 household;
‘put
away
your
idols
and
let
us
go
to
Bethel
showing
us
that
Jacob
had
power
to
 influence
 his
 entire
 household.
 When
 you
 operate
 from
 Bethel
 you
 align
 accurately
 to
 a
 place
 of
 transecting
 with
 God
 for
 me
 and
 my
 household
 will
 serve
 the
 Lord.
 When
 you
 accurately
align
your
family
all
the
idols
that
are
in
your
family’s
life
comes
to
an
end.
Elisha
 asked
 of
 Gehazi
 where
 did
 you
 go
 and
 he
 replied
 ‘your
 servant
 went
 nowhere.
 Many
 Charismatic
leaders
spend
all
their
time
going
to
the
place
called
nowhere.

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When
people
do
or
will
not
transect
with
God
you
have
no
power
to
hold
the
presence
or
 hold
the
people.
Ice
breakers
do
not
hold
people
neither
does
cell
church
or
seeker
friendly
 nothing
like
this
holds
people
for
people
who
refuse
to
transect
with
God
cannot
be
held.


 
 There
is
a
time
called
‘Now’
when
you
are
able
to
touch
and
open
up
the
portal
and
that
 time
for
us
is
now.
 Even
in
the
midst
of
the
Pharisee
Mark
6:19
Luke
8:46
Power
was
going
out
of
Jesus.
God
on
 that
 specific
 day
 that
 you
 interact
 with
 him
 allows
 you
 though
 it
 can
 be
 a
 certain
 word,
 a
 song,
chorus
a
certain
drum
beat
for
as
you
respond
through
these
mediums
you
begin
to
 interact
with
him
face
to
face
hence
why
your
response
is
absolutely
critical
when
you
are
in
 worship.
 When
 you
 break
 out
 with
 him
 he
 will
 help
 you
 go
 to
 the
 other
 side.
 We
 must
 gather
our
people
to
the
other
side
changing
their
mentalities
so
that
they
can
transect
with
 God.
If
people
come
expecting
and
nothing
happens
then
this
is
your
fault
but
if
our
people
 don’t
come
with
any
expectations
you
as
a
leader
must
change
these
mentalities
so
that
we
 always
come
ready
to
transect
with
God.

 Responsibility verses Authority Illustrate
the
leader
with
that
of
flying
a
kite.
When
you
are
young
you
thought
to
fly
a
kite
 all
you
had
to
do
was
run
and
when
it
took
off
you
thought
you
were
the
one
flying
the
kite
 when
you
get
older
you
become
smarter
for
now
you
know
that
running
alone
doesn’t
fly
 the
 kite
 but
 through
 the
 running
 the
 wind
 must
 carry
 the
 kite.
 There
 are
 multitudes
 of
 people
in
church
running
around
creating
hot
air
services
and
the
church
kite
still
refuses
to
 fly.
When
a
worship
service
has
energy
but
does
not
have
nor
know
how
to
create
a
spiritual
 current
the
only
option
is
for
more
and
more
energy
tol
be
created.

Most
song
leaders
will
 sing
four
songs
in
the
attempt
to
create
and
catch
a
thermal
air
pocket
of
the
spirit
which
 for
 many
 the
 only
 thermal
 air
 pocket
 experienced
 is
 the
 hot
 air
 created
 by
 singing
 and
 speaking.
We
sing
and
participate
we
listen
to
speakers
and
take
notes
but
we
corporately
 together
don’t
seem
to
able
to
leave
the
runway.
If
a
congregation
does
not
take
off
by
us
 worshiping
then
the
pastor
must
then
take
the
reins
not
the
worship
leader
and
push
and
 pull
 the
 dynamics
 of
 the
 spirit
 so
 as
 the
 church
 can
 begin
 to
 ascend
 higher
 and
 higher
 towards
the
heavens.
‘Pastors,
your
co‐pilots
are
not
the
worship
leaders
as
your
worship
 leaders
 are
 merely
 nothing
 more
 than
 flight
 stewards
 as
 they
 assistand
 serve
 you
 with
 their
ministry
of
helps.
The
senior
pastor
is
the
one
pulling
the
strings
as
he
works
and
walks
 in
the
spirit.
Elders
Deacons
men
and
women
trained
and
full
of
the
word
and
the
ways
of
 the
spirit
these
are
your
co‐pilot
because
these
people
will
join
and
give
their
best
effort
and
 strength
 when
 the
 plane
 looks
 destined
 for
 failure.
 Worship
 leaders
 on
 their
 best
 day
 can
 only
 seem
 to
 function
 as
 long
 as
 they
 feel
 good
 inside
 themselves
 so
 their
 leading
 is
 dependent
 upon
 how
 they
 feel
 rather
 than
 there
 is
 a
 flight
 schedule
 to
 keep
 and
 a
 destination
to
arrive
at.
Unfortunately
the
problem
with
most
worship
and
senior
pastors
is

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the
concept
of
holding
the
reins
is
interpreted
as
being
an
issue
of
authority
rather
than
the
 taking
of
responsibility
which
is
nothing
more
than
Charismatic
nonsense.
When
you
are
the
 one
speaking
you
have
to
carry
your
own
internal
technology
to
surf
and
fly
the
currents
of
 the
 wind
 because
 people
 are
 depending
 on
 you,
 and
 if
 you
 are
 the
 captain
 then
 it’s
 your
 response
to
your
ability
that
gets
people
to
their
destination
and
not
your
authority.
 Acts
16:
16‐20
This
lady
was
saying
good
things
but
Paul
picked
upon
these
things
but
didn’t
 act
until
the
right
time.
If
you
pick
something
up
you
have
to
know
how
to
act
at
the
right
 time
for
when
he
was
annoyed
he
became
agitated
in
his
internal
spirit
for
when
he
did
he
 then
cast
it
out.
The
moment
he
cast
this
devil
out
war
in
the
heavenlies
broke
out
against
 him.

When
you
hit
it
right
in
the
spirit
realm
a
chain
reaction
begins
then
taking
place.
The
 moment
Paul
broke
out
he
was
thrown
into
prison
and
from
that
place
God
begins
to
break
 out
 on
 his
 behalf.
 The
 office
 Clerk
 the
 magistrate
 the
 crowds
 all
 became
 involved
 which
 were
 all
 each
 in
 themselves
 part
 of
 what
 is
 termed
 as
 ‘cause
 and
 effect.
 The
 demon
 possessed
 girl
 and
 her
 deliverance
 was
 the
 cause
 the
 effect
 however
 was
 that
 trade
 and
 profit
was
affected
by
here
deliverance.

 Illustrate
Paul
was
found
doing
the
right
thing
at
the
right
moment.
Silas
says
to
Paul
during
 the
day
time,
Paul
we
should
be
doing
something,
who
do
we
know
that
can
help
us?
Paul
 says
it
is
not
the
right
time
yet.
4Pm
and
Silas
says,
Paul;
are
you
hungry?
Do
you
think
they
 do
 Pizza
 delivery
 in
 this
 place?
 We
 should
 be
 doing
 something
 and
 Paul
 says
 ‘no,
 it’s
 not
 time
yet.
11PM
comes
and
Silas
is
in
a
deep
sleep
just
like
many
of
church
people
are
and
 Paul
say’s
‘Silas,
wake
up,
‘Silas
what,
what
happened
who
moved
shoot
it.
Paul
says,
‘I
think
 it’s
time
to
do
something,
‘I
know,
‘let’s
sing
a
hymn.
Silas
says,
sing,
why
didn’t
we
sing
a
 hymn
at
6PM?
It’s
so
dark
I
can’t
read
my
mind
we
can’t
sing
any
way
we
have
no
words.
 Paul
says,’
ahh’
I
will
teach
you
lesson
number
one
Silas
about
the
apostolic
you
don’t
need
 formulated
 words
 to
 touch
 heaven
it’s
what
you
 carry
on
 the
inside
 that
 counts
 not
 what
 lies
on
the
external.

 Whatever
you
can
carry
will
open
up
for
you
a
portal
for
whether
it
is
a
song,
a
fresh
word
 from
the
Holy
Spirit
as
it
is
these
things
which
are
then
able
to
touch
people.
Look
where
 the
flow
comes
from
when
using
worship
look
to
instruments
such
as
keyboard
and
drums
 as
 you
 can
 feel
 the
 rhythm
 more
 easily
 rather
 than
 just
 guitars
 which
 have
 a
 tendency
 to
 cloud
out
the
melody
so
easily.

 Psalm
84:1‐12
Say’s
how
lovely
is
your
dwelling
place
oh
God?
The
Psalmist
says
where
ever
 the
house
of
God
dwells
blessing
breaks
out.
In
this
Psalms
everything
that
is
connected
to
 the
physical
place
becomes
outrageously
blessed.
In
this
place
there
is
a
desire,
heart
and
 flesh
that
all
sings
for
joy
as
singing
songs
seriously
help
us
to
build
an
atmosphere.
It’s
not
 fare
says
the
sons
o
Korah
for
the
birds
can
stay
but
we
have
to
leave
for
the
birds
can
raise
 their
young
at
your
alter
but
we
have
to
leave
for
if
we
can
stay
in
his
presence
leaving
time
 to
one
side
then
we
too
will
become
blessed.
No
matter
how
good
and
how
marvellous
the
 word
 and
 the
 presence
 is,
 we
 think
 we
 can
 only
 have
 church
 once
 a
 week
 which
 is
 a

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religious
church
mentality.
This
thought
says
that
you
cannot
bring
people
to
church
twice
 because
people
say
that
we
have
a
life
and
if
he
the
pastor
calls
us
twice
a
week
then
he
is
 too
 controlling.
 God
 only
 gets
 one
 chance
 to
 make
 a
 home
 run.
 The
 church
 is
 left
 singing
 during
the
move
of
God
rain,
rain
go
away
come
back
another
day.
If
you
go
to
church
you
 get
 something
 that
 you
 normally
 don’t
 get
 at
 home
 which
 is
 sad
 as
 people
 unplug
 themselves
from
God
and
connect
themselves
to
their
jobs
and
careers.
How
pleasant
is
the
 man
whose
strength
is
in
you
showing
us
that
we
must
plug
ourselves
and
our
strength
back
 into
God
so
that
his
pathways
become
highways
for
us
in
the
spirit.

 We
need
a
Holy
Ghost
GPS
system
built
on
the
inside
of
our
hearts
guiding
us
back
towards
 him.
 The
 sons
 of
 Korah
 said
 we
 must
 push
 into
 him
 in
 order
 to
 build
 a
 highway
 into
 our
 hearts.
If
you
can
build
these
types
of
dimension
on
the
inside
of
your
inner
temple
you
can
 pass
 through
 the
 valley
 of
 Baca
 which
 is
 a
 valley
 of
 weeping.
 Because
 you
 have
 faith,
 strength
and
word
you
can
turn
you’re
weeping
valley
into
a
spring
of
life
all
because
you
 have
 Zion
 passing
 through
 your
 life.
 Strength
 passes
 through
 your
 expressions
 as
 well
 as
 pass
through
your
thinking
patterns
all
because
you
have
Zion
passing
through
your
life
for
 after
all
you
must
appear
before
him
in
Zion.

 Some
 people
 say,
 pastor,
 my
 heart
 is
 with
 you
 oh
 yes
 then
 why
 are
 your
 feet
 going
 in
 another
direction?
If
your
wife
would
say
this
to
you
by
going
to
your
neighbour’s
husband
 instead
of
your
home
you
would
be
in
trouble!


 Psalm
110:1‐7
Gods
government
doesn’t
pass
through
you’re
church
if
people
just
want
a
 Sunday
service.
Zion
has
to
be
built
in
such
away
where
his
Son
who
art
in
the
heavens
can
 stretch
forth
his
hands
and
begin
ruling
and
reigning
through
those
reaching
out
to
him.
The
 power
 of
 Christ
 must
 rule
 within
 the
 midst
 of
 both
 his
 church
 and
 within
 the
 enemies’
 territory.
The
reasons
why
we
cannot
get
our
people
to
change
is
because
the
power
of
God
 has
 not
 yet
 broken
 over
 them
 for
 always
 remember,
 that
 on
 the
 day
 of
 his
 power
 church
 people
 will
 willingly
 begin
 offer
 themselves.
 First
 God
 has
 to
 speak
 from
 the
 heavens
 secondly
Jesus
has
to
work
and
reign
in
the
lives
of
his
people
and
when
these
two
things
 happen
people
willingly
begin
to
offer
themselves
to
both
God
and
the
pastor.
 Zechariah
1:14‐18
&
Zechariah
2:1‐6
One
angel
said
don’t
measure
whereas
the
other
one
 says
measure
and
why
because
we
are
in
habiting
a
city
without
walls
a
city
with
no
more
 boundaries
or
limitations.
God
is
going
to
give
us
a
new
strength
in
order
to
become
a
city
 without
walls.
Zechariah
1:18
Jerusalem,
Israel
and
Judah
meaning
praise
and
power.
God
is
 sending
skilled
craftsmen
so
that
the
power
of
the
horns
become
broken.
The
year
2010
will
 see
this
happen
for
the
day
of
scattering
and
measuring
walls
is
over
for
God
is
giving
us
the
 power
to
increase.

 illustrate
 of
 snakes
 and
 ladders
 for
 further
 consideration.
 
 Ladders
 are
 only
 useful
 when
 climbed
for
the
experience
of
Jacob
was
not
just
for
him
to
see
like
so
many
Charismatic’s
 believers
 today
 think
 but
 were
 instead
 given
 for
 him
 to
 climb.
 Many
 Charismatic’s
 when

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seeing
 angelic
 host
 would
 have
 camped
 right
 there
 and
 wrote
 a
 book
 then
 do
 a
 world
 preaching
 tour.
 Charismatic’s
 love
 the
 heavens
 being
 opened
 up
 seeing
 angelic
 host
 performing
in
their
services
but
saying
that
the
experience
was
suppose
to
see
Jacob
climb
 so
he
could
go
higher
into
that
which
was
being
opened
up
for
him.
When
Satan
said
I
will
 ascend
like
God
he
was
seeking
to
cross
streams
in
order
for
him
to
stop
you
going
higher
 hence
 why
 for
 every
 ladder
 you
 climb
 there
 is
 a
 potential
 snake
 waiting
 to
 kill
 steal
 and
 destroy
your
life.
Satan
kills
when
it
is
easy
he
steals
when
he
is
given
an
opportunity
and
he
 destroys
 when
 you
 are
 careless
 for
 these
 are
 the
 reasons
 why
 snakes
 stop
 you
 ascending
 either
the
ladder
or
the
hill
of
the
Lord
which
in
essence
will
prevent
you
from
seeing
the
 other
side.

 You
must
always
be
submitted
to
those
who
are
leading.
Your
gifting
must
be
submitted
to
 those
 who
 are
 leading.
 Have
 you
 considered
 my
 servant
 Job
 came
 the
 question
 for
 every
 time
 I
 go
 said
 Satan
 to
 Jobs
 house
 you
 are
 there
 protecting
 him.
 
 Every
 time
 I
 try
 and
 penetrate
 him
 you
 shield
 him
 showing
 us
 that
 submission
 brings
 protection.
 Satan
 kills,
 steals
and
destroys.
Satan
kills
when
you
make
things
easy
for
him
he
steals
when
you
give
 him
an
opportunity
and
he
destroys
when
you
live
carelessly.

Careless‐Easy‐Opportunity
 in
this
game
of
snakes
and
ladders
you
can
use
the
thought
of
submission
and
obedience
as
 the
very
shield
that
shields
a
believer
from
a
snake
attack.

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Session
Five

The purpose of the church and how worship fits into it Matthew
16:13‐19
 In
Matthew
the
book
presents
the
king
and
the
kingdom
but
here
we
see
the
mention
of
the
 church
as
it
is
the
first
time
the
builder
is
introducing
the
church.
The
church
did
not
come
 from
 the
 Pilgrim
 Fathers
 or
 from
 the
 dark
 ages
 like
 some
 suggest
 but
 it
 came
 from
 the
 throne
room
of
heaven
as
its
original
concept
plan
and
predetermined
will
was
formed
in
 him
for
in
him
he
holds
all
things
together
Colossians
1:17.

1st
purpose
of
the
church
is
to
connect
to
heaven
in
order
to
represent
the
 one
from
heaven
well.
 We
are
not
connected
to
the
guitar
or
the
drums
as
these
are
simply
superficial.
Jesus
asked
 who
do
people
say
that
I
am
and
who
do
you
say
that
I
am.
What
Jesus
was
interested
in
 was
whether
Peter
could
connect
to
heaven
and
bring
the
words
of
heaven
down
to
earth
 to
the
people
in
order
to
declare
the
kingdom
of
God.
If
you
can
do
this
then
you
are
truly
 connected.
 Jesus
 said
 after
 Peter
 responded
 to
 his
 question,
 the
 father
 me
 and
 you
 Peter
 and
the
Holy
Ghost
are
all
connected
in
the
same
flow.
That
which
you
write
sing
and
play
 must
 all
 be
 connected
 in
 the
 some
 flow
 for
 upon
 this
 rock,
 things
 are
 shaped
 honed
 and
 developed.

 When
Jesus
was
on
the
earth
Jesus
didn’t
know
all
things
such
as
say
the
timing
of
the
last
 day
return
showing
on
some
issues
he
is
in
the
dark
just
like
you
and
me.
God
through
the
 Holy
 Spirit
 was
 revealing
 things
 to
 Jesus
 in
 time
 and
 on
 time.
 When
 God
 works
 with
 the
 pastor
the
pastor
doesn’t
know
all
things
hence
why
he
must
connect
with
heaven
in
order
 to
represent
the
one
from
heaven
well.
When
the
pastor
or
worship
leader
can
connect
to
 the
 heavens,
 the
 heavens
 begin
 revealing
 things
 to
 him
 by
 revelation
 and
 process
 all
 of
 which
begins
unfolding
in
his
time
and
on
time.
The
moment
you
can
connect
with
heaven
 and
 represent
 the
 heavens
 speaking
 out
 heavens
 language;
 you
 have
 discovered
 the
 purpose
of
the
church.
Most
people
are
just
connected
to
the
natural
abilities
of
a
man
but
 Jesus
said
to
Peter
concerning
Peters
revelation
of
him
‘at
last
Peter,
you
have
connected
 congratulations
now
we
can
begin
to
build
and
do
our
fathers
business
together!

2nd
purpose
of
the
church
is
that
it
is
designed
to
operate
by
and
under
the
 authority
of
heaven.
 When
you
operate
like
this
it
is
no
longer
your
authority
but
heaven
its
self
backing
you
as
 you
are
commissioned
in
other
words
you
personally
have
been
given
heavens
commission
 to
do
the
will
of
heaven
and
of
your
father
here
upon
the
earth.

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3rd
Purpose
of
the
church
is
that
you
begin
to
express
the
one
who
is
in
 heaven
 4th
purpose
of
the
church
is
that
you
begin
to
operate
under
the
resources
of
 heaven.
 It’s
 no
 longer
 your
 talent
 flowing
 through
 you
 but
 the
 feel
 and
 the
 expression
 that
 you
 project
into
the
spirit
realm
as
to
do
this
is
heavens
resource
comes
to
you.

It
is
Gods
great
 excuse
to
flow
things
from
heaven
through
you
and
for
the
meeting
and
for
the
other
things
 you
do
for
him.

5th
The
purpose
of
the
church
is
that
it
must
operate
with
heavenly
 reinforcements
in
other
words
there
must
be
an
undergirding
of
the
Holy
 Spirit
flowing
though
the
church.
 God’s
supernatural
power
must
carry
both
you
your
house
and
ministry
for
your
voice
must
 be
 led
 by
 a
 spiritual
 strength
 a
 strength
 that
 comes
 from
 the
 spirit
 that
 is
 lifting
 you.
 I
 as
 Tony
am
not
able
to
read
music
but
I
do
have
the
spirit
of
worship
flowing
through
me
for
 David’s
wife
despised
David
for
the
way
he
worshipped
God
but
she
herself
did
not
have
a
 spirit
of
worship
upon
her
life
a
life
unfortunately
that
got
her
in
trouble.
David
functioned
 with
the
resources
of
heaven
undergirding
him
by
the
grace
of
GOD.

6th
purpose
of
the
church
is
that
it
must
express
the
kingdom
of
heaven.
 There
 must
 be
 government
 submission
 co‐ordination
 righteousness
 peace
 joy
 in
 the
 Holy
 Ghost.
You
as
a
musician
must
submit
totally
unequivocally
to
the
pastor’s
authority.
Even
if
 the
pastor
starts
in
the
wrong
key
you
must
change
to
suit
his
leading
you
don’t
rebel
to
suit
 your
own
way
for
if
rules
and
systems
were
created
by
men
then
why
can’t
a
man
change
 the
rule
or
system
in
mid
flow?
If
I
am
a
pastor
and
I
want
to
change
the
musician’s
practices
 whilst
in
mid
flow
then
it
must
be
done.
If
it
is
the
last
line
of
a
song
that
I
want
to
change
 but
the
musicians
tell
you,
you
cannot
do
this
you
have
to
go
back
to
the
chorus
or
to
the
 bridge
just
say
to
them
‘rubbish’
and
why,
because
this
part
of
the
song
declares
strength
to
 the
 atmosphere.
 The
 musician’s
 role
 is
 to
 follow
 and
 create
 a
 run
 way
 for
 the
 meeting
 to
 take
off
that
is
all.
 There
is
an
old
fear
and
thought
that
many
pastors
have
when
approaching
music
and
that
 is
 because
 they
 don’t
 understand
 music
 then
 they
 can
 have
 no
 part
 in
 it
 which
 is
 a
 lie.
 Another
lie
that
pastors
often
say
to
themselves
is
‘did
I
build
this
or
was
it
God
both
these
 two
 fears
 breed
 confusion
 in
 the
 heart
 of
 God’s
 man.
 When
 you
 go
 to
 IKEA
 to
 buy
 a
 wardrobe
or
other
furniture
all
the
ingredients
are
in
the
box
every
screw
wood,
glue
and
 nails
but
you
then
are
the
one
who
must
build
according
to
the
makers
instructions.
If
you
 want
to
buy
ready
assembled
furniture
then
don’t
call
it
church
just
call
it
what
it
is
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friendly
assembled
church.
We
are
looking
to
a
God
whose
city
and
architect
is
a
builder
for
 the
city
he
is
building
is
Zion
as
he
is
a
master
architect

7th
purpose
of
the
church
is,
it
is
to
be
buoyant
in
the
spirit
world.
 Anything
 that
 is
 connected
 to
 heaven
 must
 be
 free
 in
 the
 spirit
 realm
 for
 this
 is
 why
 all
 musicians
must
carry
a
healthy
soul
as
it
is
a
soul
that
lives
in
a
healthy
body.
Our
musicians
 must
be
buoyant
as
this
is
a
prerequisite
for
all
musicians.
We
don’t
want
musicians
lending
 us
by
their
talent
we
want
buoyant
self
controlled
people
in
their
emotions.

How
to
handle
contrary
spirits
 (opposite
spirits
that
seek
to
destroy
both
you
and
the
 life
in
the
atmosphere)
 1. You
must
have
a
healthy
mind.
When
there
are
snipers
trying
to
shoot
you
from
the
 church
with
their
eyes
when
you
are
on
the
stage
you
must
have
a
healthy
mind.
Or
 you
will
be
under
minded.
 2. You
have
to
know
who
you
are
in
Christ.
This
brings
you
both
a
God
confidence
and
 an
inner
peace.
 3. Your
conscience
must
be
clear
meaning
you
must
have
done
everything
to
the
best
 of
your
spiritual
knowledge
covering
all
your
bases.
 4. You
have
to
develop
the
spirit
of
humility
there
is
also
a
possibility
that
you
could
 be
wrong
so
show
yourself
to
be
a
person
who
is
willing
to
learn.
 5. You
 must
 always
 be
 submitted
 to
 those
 who
 are
 leading.
 Your
 gifting
 must
 be
 submitted
to
those
who
are
leading.
Have
you
considered
my
servant
Job
came
the
 question
for
every
time
I
go
said
Satan
to
Jobs
house
you
are
there
protecting
him.

 Every
time
I
try
and
penetrate
him
you
shield
him
showing
us
that
submission
brings
 protection.
Satan
kills,
steals
and
destroys.
Satan
kills
when
you
make
things
easy
for
 him
 he
 steals
 when
 you
 give
 him
 an
 opportunity
 and
 he
 destroys
 when
 you
 live
 carelessly.

Careless‐Easy‐Opportunity
 6. Always
operate
in
the
opposite
sprit
when
a
contrary
spirits
is
trying
to
flow.
If
you
 know
 a
 spirit
 is
 flowing,
 then
 learn
 to
 respond
 in
 another
 spirit
 a
 spirit
 which
 will
 confuse
and
overthrow
the
sprits
trying
to
operate.
Remember:
man
is
a
spirit
with
 a
soul
living
in
a
body.
Remember
also
that
wicked
spirits
live
in
people
and
possess
 an
amazing
ability
to
push
you
out
of
your
position
in
God
for
just
look
at
Jezebel
and
 Hitler
 as
 they
 both
 possessed
 an
 evil
 spirit
 that
 pushed
 people
 and
 undermined
 them.
 If
 death
 is
 coming
 to
 you
 just
 begin
 to
 pray
 releasing
 life
 over
 both
 yourself
 and
 those
 who
 are
 seeking
 to
 destroy
 you
 as
 in
 Job
 2.
 The
 more
 we
 can
 feel
 the
 more
an
attack
can
gather
pace
towards
us
hence
why
we
must
be
inwardly
stable.
 7 Protect
yourself
from
wrong
reactions
whilst
on
the
platform.
We
cannot
react
we
 must
hold
ourselves
together
inwardly
so
that
when
we
do
address
any
wrongs
we
 deal
 with
 it
 with
 a
 controlled
 strength.
 If
 you
 are
 sensitive
 to
 people’s
 sprits
 you
 must
learn
not
to
react
but
instead
learn
to
deal
with
them
in
a
controlled
manner

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because
 if
 you
 project
 flesh
 and
 blood
 to
 spirits
 they
 will
 feed
 on
 that
 which
 you
 offer
them.
You
must
deal
with
this
spiritual
activity
within
people
because
if
you
do
 not
 arrest
 such
 behaviour
 people
 will
 then
 go
 into
 decline
 and
 you
 will
 inwardly
 become
frustrated.
You
must
learn
to
function
with
a
clear
conscience
meaning
that
 some
 people
 project
 the
 wrong
 spirit
 towards
 you
 as
 a
 pastor
 and
 you
 cannot
 change
them.
For
to
them
they
see
you
as
the
pastor
your
life
and
ministry
as
one
 inward
 challenge
 to
 them
 so
 when
 they
 get
 the
 opportunity
 to
 project
 a
 familiar
 spirit
contrary
to
the
spirit
operating
within
you
the
pastor
they
will
seek
to
hit
hard.
 Carol
will
tell
you
I
hate
with
a
passion
religious
thinking
and
behaviour
and
I
hate
 injustice
and
immature
behaviour
and
unstable
emotions
found
in
people
as
I
always
 want
to
go
to
war
in
order
to
correct
it
but
if
I
do
not
handle
myself
I
will
feed
the
 enemy
on
the
wrong
food.
Even
though
I
am
a
musician
I
cannot
have
the
emotions
 of
a
musician
and
why
because
I
am
a
human
with
a
soul
that
lives
in
a
body
a
body
 that
 must
 be
 controlled.
 I
 cannot
 release
 some
 of
 people
 in
 the
 dream
 centre
 as
 I
 dare
not
take
them
with
me
when
I

travel
because
their
emotional
outburst
will
kill
 me
us
and
others
then
I
will
after
kill
them.

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Session
Six
 Matthew
16:13‐19
continued....
 When shutting down the powers of hell you shut them down by shutting down.... Every
 limitation:
 meaning
 whether
 it
 is
 mental
 technological
 geographical
 cultural
 &
 political
 whatever
 the
 limitations
 they
 must
 be
 broken.
 Limitations
 are
 used
 to
 keep
 us
 in
 when
we
are
purposed
to
break
free.


 All
 satanic
 forces:
 meaning
 oppression
 depression
 obsession
 suppression.
 The
 enemy
 will
 work
his
plan
out
in
stages
to
bring
everything
down
to
his
level.
Ephesians
2:1‐3
The
prince
 of
the
air
designs
a
course
in
order
to
destroy
the
sons
of
God
in
order
we
do
the
devils
will
 subjecting
us
to
a
certain
pattern
of
behaviour
but
we
must
break
this
over
and
off
our
lives.
 When
 Jesus
 wanted
 to
 feed
 the
 5000
 Peter
 said
 we
 are
 geographically
 financially
 and
 physically
out
of
time.
Andrew
said;
‘here
comes
a
boy
carrying
five
loaves
and
two
fishes
 showing
us
all
that
Jesus
needs
is
something
to
work
with.
Jesus
had
to
work
through
the
 disciples
 and
 their
 shallow
 thinking
 patterns
 as
 they
 had
 become
 his
 obstacle
 for
 him
 working.
 The
 disciples
 had
 taken
 a
 look
 in
 the
 natural
 looking
 at
 the
 region
 and
 became
 limited
in
their
opinions
and
thinking
patterns.
Whenever
both
God
and
the
devil
want
to
do
 things
 thought
 patterns
 can
 either
 become
 the
 gate
 way
 to
 freedom
 or
 slavery.
 1
 Corinthians
 3:1‐4
 these
 guys
 were
 walking
 as
 mere
 men
 which
 were
 flesh
 and
 blood
 and
 because
of
this
the
devil
fed
upon
the
flesh
thus
inviting
satanic
forces
into
the
church.
The
 church
has
the
disease
H1
&
1
which
is
Chicken
Pots
they
tell
you
that
when
you
carry
the
 disease
you
will
contaminate
people
if
you
come
into
contact
with
them
so
isolation
is
the
 immediate
course
of
action.
When
people
bring
bitterness
and
jealousy
into
our
midst
we
 should
isolate
them
as
they
will
contaminate
us
with
their
spiritual
activity
and
pass
it
on
to
 us.
When
we
stand
as
worship
leaders
we
must
be
prone
to
the
dimensions
of
the
spirit
so
 we
can
push
out
devils
from
our
territory.
 False
 doctrines:
 The
 gates
 of
 hell
 or
 the
 source
 of
 hell
 set
 up
 the
 doctrines
 of
 demons
 through
false
messages
Galatians
1:6‐10.
People
were
disserting
Paul
by
following
another
 gospel
 so
 now
 Paul
 has
 to
 reconnect
 them.
 From
 Sunday
 to
 Sunday
 people’s
 minds
 are
 plagued
with
incorrect
doctrines
thoughts
and
philosophies;
causing
them
to
withdraw
for
 when
 this
 happens
 this
 is
 a
 clear
 assault
 on
 people’s
 lives.
 Many
 worship
 leaders
 want
 to
 serve
you
cocktail
worship
little
bit
of
this
and
that
which
any
talented
unspiritual
can
do.
 What
we
need
is
worshipers;
people
who
both
know
and
understand
how
the
realm
of
the
 spirit
works
as
well
know
how
to
work
in
such
dimensions.

 2
Corinthians
11:3‐4
If
our
people
from
week
to
week
carry
a
different
gospel
this
is
a
clear
 sign
of
satanic
resources
hitting
the
church.
We
must
carry
a
clear
message
so
clear
that
it
 hits
and
cleanses
our
people’s
lives.
You
can
sing
like
an
angel
but
you
are
really
a
devil
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disguise
 said
 Elvis
 teaching
 us
 wisdom
 from
 his
 words.
 Fill
 people’s
 minds
 and
 heal
 their
 minds
until
people’s
minds
are
free
but
you
must
do
this
from
the
word
not
a
song.

 Anxiety
 worries
 and
 all
 the
 cares
 of
 this
 world:
 these
 kinds
 of
 things
 dishonour
 reducing
 and
 ignoring
 the
 character
 and
 nature
 of
 God.
 We
 are
 people
 who
 worship
 the
 father
 in
 spirit
and
in
truth.
We
worship
the
father
and
redeemer
of
man
a
God
who
is
loving;
kind
 and
full
of
mercy
for
this
must
become
part
of
our
time
together
so
that
people
can
see
that
 God
is
gracious
and
steadfast
towards
them
for
our
songs
must
represent
him
in
his
fullness.

 Satan
is
in
control
and
he
wants
you
to
become
a
victim
of
the
confusion
of
his
move.
Hell
 will
 rise
 to
 change
 your
 situation
 so
 as
 you
 think
 God
 is
 no
 longer
 in
 charge
 by
 sending
 turmoil
confusion
and
the
likes
thereof
towards
your
life.
When
we
lead
worship
we
must
 show
people
that
God
is
sovereign
and
that
it
is
a
real
God
who
is
sitting
on
the
throne
and
 we
 rule
 and
 reign
 with
 him.
 Babylon
 collapses
 and
 God
 is
 still
 sitting
 on
 the
 throne.
 John
 sees
the
natural
scene
of
the
church
but
God
is
still
sitting
on
the
throne
ruling
and
reigning.
 The
 sources
 of
 hell
 will
 try
 to
 begin
 shutting
 down
 the
 reality
 of
 the
 new
 created
 life
 within
you
by
causing
other
different
laws
to
operate
within
you.
You
become
angry
and
 another
law
works
within
your
members
of
your
body
Romans
7:32‐36.
If
you
are
happy
in
 your
inner
man
then
another
law
will
work
against
you
organising
other
movements.
When
 we
 enter
 into
 worship
 we
 do
 not
 wait
 for
 mood
 but
 instead
 we
 use
 our
 will
 saying
 to
 ourselves
‘I
will
 praise
the
Lord.
People’s
emotions
are
affected
by
their
moods
but
if
you
 change
people’s
environments
by
using
your
personal
will
then
we
bring
people
into
a
new
 move
rather
than
keep
them
in
an
old
mood.
This
is
a
major
issue
of
song
leaders
as
they
 only
move
as
long
as
their
moods
are
in
good
health
hence
why
we
must
develop
train
and
 empower
worshipers
to
function
by
their
will
and
choice
as
this
is
the
greatest
part
of
our
 salvation.
Every
time
you
make
a
personal
choice
you
become
more
powerful
than
God
and
 the
devil
but
remember
I
said
you
were
greater
not
more
powerful
as
you
are
only
greater
 at
 that
 particular
 moment
 as
 you
 are
 free
 to
 choose.
 Hell
 knows
 how
 to
 bring
 different
 contradictions
 hence
 we
 must
 shut
 hell
 down
 from
 operating
 from
 within
 us.
 You
 cannot
 love
God
with
your
lips
but
your
hearts
be
far
away.

 When
hell
begins
to
invade,
you
must
remember
that
Satan
raises
and
uses
other
human
 lives
to
work
through
in
order
to
destroy
the
nature
and
character
of
the
church.
This
is
 why
we
have
to
shut
down
the
gates
of
hell
so
that
we
cannot
be
targeted
on
a
personal
 level.
 Satan
 doesn’t
 turn
 up
 to
 you
 face
 to
 face
 for
 he
 uses
 others
 to
 stair
 you
 down
 and
 affect
you
internally.
Remember
all
the
Cesar’s
of
Rome
were
killed
not
by
more
powerful
 invading
armies
conquering
Rome’s
headquarters
but
were
killed
by
their
own
people.

 The
gates
of
hell
operate
through
interpersonal
relationship.
Friends
and
wives
and
those
 close
to
you
are
used
to
speak
to
you
in
order
to
shut
you
down
but
you
must
learn
how
to
 shut
 the
 devil
 out
 when
 he
 speaking
 to
 you.
 Remember
 in
 1
 Kings
 4:17
 the
 Shunamite
 woman
 who
 was
 in
 debt
 was
 in
 debt
 because
 of
 a
 spiritual
 mans
 contradiction
 he
 was
 a

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spiritual
man
as
he
was
former
son
of
the
prophets
but
his
contradiction
was
though
he
was
 spiritual,
his
finances
were
in
a
contradictory
position.



 Most
worshippers
do
not
see
that
there
role
which
is
to
build
the
church
with
the
pastor
but
 instead
they
just
see
their
role
as
mere
contribution
but
this
is
more
than
a
contribution
for
 they
are
helping
the
pastor
build
both
local
house
and
its
people.
Musicians
see
their
role
as
 being
one
of
crowd
and
platform
all
of
which
they
think
is
there
for
them
to
contribute
and
 express
their
talent.
Don’t
let
duty
and
responsibility
be
the
reason
why
people
connect
to
 the
worship
team
but
instead
look
for
those
who
will
co‐labour
and
build
with
you
as
their
 pastor.
 Never
 allow
 musicians
 to
 see
 themselves
 as
 being
 detached
 from
 building
 the
 house.

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Session
Seven:
 Matthew
16
continued...
 Matthew
8:28‐33
When
God
moves
in
with
the
fathers
business
 Jesus
moves
in
to
do
the
 fathers
business.
The
one
who
oppresses
is
now
himself
oppressed
as
faith
frightens
fear.
 Through
his
living
he
destroyed
all
the
works
of
the
devil.
1
John
3:8
Satan
could
not
get
 Jesus
 to
 live
 apart
 from
 his
 father
 for
 he
 lived
 as
 one
 without
 sin.
 Galatians
 5:19‐21
 the
 deeds
of
the
flesh
are
evident.
God
is
going
to
offer
the
kingdom
for
our
inheritance
but
for
 those
who
are
saved
are
saved
but
those
who
come
into
son
ship
enter
into
their
rightful
 inheritance
 Romans
 8:14‐15.
 Satan
 can
 only
 work
 through
 the
 work
 of
 the
 flesh.
 The
 first
 temptation
of
the
flesh
according
to
the
Garden
of
Eden
was
food
as
the
enemy
knew
that
if
 he
can
get
the
body
he
has
you.
Satan
challenged
Jesus
by
asking
him
to
turn
the
stones
into
 bread.
 Sex,
 needs
 clothing
 are
 all
 entrance
 points
 along
 with
 how
 you
 look
 and
 feel
 what
 you
 wear
 are
 all
 things
 that
 cause
 and
 create
 physical
 vehicles
 for
 spirits
 to
 pass
 through.
 This
is
why
you
have
to
present
your
body
as
a
living
physical
sacrifice
for
Jesus
himself
had
 to
offer
himself
as
a
sacrifice
to
his
father.

 Romans
8:3
The
law
could
not
condemn
sin
just
expose
it
for
the
law
was
neutral
but
sin
is
a
 nature
as
it
comes
from
someone
who
carries
a
nature
but
then
that
nature
needs
a
body
 which
was
Adam.
God
cannot
condemn
sin
in
the
flesh
because
when
this
happens
you
die
 because
in
the
Old
Test
if
a
thief
stole
and
sinned
they
cut
off
their
hands.
Everything
that
 Adams
body
 brought
 in
 through
 sin
 Jesus
body
 through
 his
 death
 took
 away.
You
 have
to
 shut
 down
 the
 deeds
 of
 your
 body
 so
 that
 heaven
 can
 pass
 through
 your
 life.
 Jesus
 came
 with
a
life
of
fasting
showing
us
that
man
cannot
live
by
bread
alone
but
by
every
word
that
 proceeds
from
the
mouth
of
God
for
Jesus
shut
down
the
wants
needs
and
lust
of
the
flesh.
 All
our
efforts
is
getting
the
works
of
the
devil
off
our
back
by
shutting
down
the
works
and
 power
of
the
flesh
for
when
we
do
this
Satan
has
no
entrance
point
in
which
to
work.
 Through
his
death
he
destroyed
all
the
power
of
the
devil.
Hebrews
2:14‐16.
Satan
once
 had
the
power
of
death
but
now
Jesus
takes
away
Satan’s
power
to
bring
death
making
him
 powerless.
 Jesus
 pushed
 Satan
 away
 from
 the
 presence
 of
 God
 thus
 limiting
 him
 in
 his
 works.
 Death
 has
 no
 power
 to
 hold
 us
 for
 there
 is
 a
 life
 in
 us
 that
 swallows
 up
 death
 all
 because
there
is
a
life
on
the
inside.
The
power
of
the
devil
was
death
but
now
Jesus
holds
 the
 keys
 of
 life
 and
 death
 showing
 us
 that
 you
 cannot
 die
 until
 God
 decides
 and
 not
 the
 devil.
If
you
think
of
the
truth
that
says,
Jesus
made
a
public
display
of
the
enemy
a
chicken
 whose
legs
and
head
is
cut
off
portrays
this
truth
well.
A
chicken
when
it
is
decapitated
loses
 its
 head
 and
 it
 loses
 its
 ability
 to
 move
 for
 this
 is
 what
 Jesus
 did
 to
 Satan
 through
 his
 life
 through
his
death
and
through
his
indestructible
life
and
resurrection.

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Through
his
resurrection
he
destroys
all
the
presence
of
the
devil.
 When
Jesus
rose
again
the
resurrection
power
caused
the
devil
to
leave.
Luke
4:1
Jesus
was
 filed
 with
 the
 power
 of
 the
 spirit
 verse
 14.
 You
 can
 be
 full
 and
 led
 by
 the
 spirit
 and
 that
 which
 is
 full
 and
 led
 becomes
 powerful.
 Many
 believers
 want
 to
 be
 filled
 but
 they
 don’t
 want
 to
 be
 led
 and
 because
 of
 this
 their
 fullness
 makes
 them
 fat
 and
 slothful
 but
 all
 that
 food
must
empower
you
to
become
strong.
Once
Jesus
fills
you
and
the
spirit
begins
to
lead
 you
your
emotional
state
should
and
must
become
stronger
as
this
is
the
fruit
that
which
is
 going
in
to
you
making
a
significant
difference
in
you.
So
many
people
fill
themselves
with
so
 many
 things
 that
 weighs
 them
 down.
 Isaiah
 55:10
 Every
 time
 the
 rain
 falls
 down
 it
 has
 a
 purpose
 which
 is
 starting
 a
 cycle
 of
 germinating
 the
 seed
 so
 that
 the
 seed
 becomes
 something.
 Whatever
 God
 speaks
 it
 starts
 a
 process
 for
 this
 word
 never
 returns
 empty
 without
it
accomplishing
what
its
purpose
was
designed
to
do.
The
trees
of
the
field
that
are
 supposed
 to
 resist
 you
 but
 now
 they
 cheer
 you
 according
 to
 Isaiah
 for
 this
 is
 resurrection
 power
as
the
whole
environment
begins
to
change.
Instead
of
the
thorn
bush
the
cypress
 grows
which
is
power
to
change
your
stature.
 Through
his
indestructible
life
in
us
he
destroyed
all
the
seed
of
the
enemy.
Whatever
left
 over
seed
the
enemy
had,
has
now
been
destroyed
through
the
indestructible
life.
In
every
 garden
 there
 are
 left
 over
 seeds
 many
 seeds
 have
 been
 dropped
 by
 the
 birds
 and
 many
 seeds
have
been
carried
to
your
life
by
other
people
now
creating
in
you
certain
thoughts.
 Some
 of
 you
 want
 to
 be
 gladiators
 but
 you
 are
 the
 only
 gladiator
 that
 trips
 up
 over
 ants
 showing
us
that
though
you
are
strong
and
powerful
it’s
the
small
things
in
life
that
easily
 trip
 you
 up.
 Seeds
 planted
 in
 you
 produce
 worms
 and
 worms
 create
 unhealthy
 bacteria
 hence
why
Satan
plants
seeds
into
our
hearts.
 Further
notes
on
what
Jesus
accomplished
can
be
found
by
looking
at
the
SOP
notes
2009

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Session
Eight
 Side
comments
made
not
relating
to
previous
topics
 Even
heavenly
worship
is
led
by
order
for
if
the
four
living
creatures
don’t
begin
to
lead
then
 worship
doesn’t
start.
It
is
led
by
those
who
see
the
revelation
and
by
those
who
are
led
by
 the
 revelation
 that
 fully
 represent
 him
 well.
 The
 four
 living
 creature
 represent
 him
 in
 so
 many
ways
revealing
his
totality
and
identity
as
they
are
the
heavenly
model.
Though
they
 are
 not
 him
 they
 represent
 him
 as
 they
 are
 the
 manifestation
 of
 him
 in
 the
 throne
 room.
 They
 had
 four
 faces
 an
 eagle,
 lion,
 Ox
 and
 the
 face
 as
 the
 face
 of
 a
 man
 for
 Jesus
 was
 all
 these
four
but
each
one
of
these
creatures
fully
represent
him
in
all
their
dimensions
and
 peculiarities.
 You
 cannot
 reduce
 worship
 to
 songs
 for
 heaven
 is
 much
 more
 than
 songs.
 When
 heaven
 sings
 ministering
 angels
 begin
 working
 the
 atmosphere
 for
 when
 we
 the
 church
replicate
this
dimension
on
the
earth
then
we
have
heavenly
worship.
People
say
we
 had
angels
in
our
service
whereas
some
claim
to
have
seen
or
heard
angels
but
this
is
not
 the
same
as
angels
ministering
in
the
actual
service.
We
must
not
attract
attention
to
angels
 for
to
do
this
is
wrong.
When
you
open
up
the
heavens
the
portal
opens
up
to
us
so
that
the
 will
of
the
father
is
done
in
heaven
as
it
is
done
on
the
earth
for
this
is
the
pattern.


 Let
thy
kingdom
come
let
thy
will
be
done
in
heaven
as
it
is
done
on
earth
so
the
question
 has
to
be
who
is
doing
the
will
of
heaven
in
heaven?
When
God
speaks
the
word
it
is
done
 for
 the
 one
 who
 speaks
 it
 has
 already
 established
 it
 in
 the
 heavens
 but
 our
 power
 is
 to
 unlock
that
which
has
already
been
done
for
this
is
our
ability
given
to
us
by
God.

 
 Revelation
we
see
different
songs
being
sung
such
as
the
song
of
the
creator
and
redeemer
 The
song
of
the
saints

 Revelation
6:
and
Revelation
19:11
speaking
of
the
white
horse
who
is
faithful
and
true.
God
 is
 going
 to
 bring
 a
 revival
 of
 the
 word
 and
 of
 the
 spirit
 before
 the
 plagues
 break
 out.
 A
 translator
 in
 the
 bible
 interpreted
 the
 white
 horse
 in
 a
 different
 way
 as
 it
 depicts
 him
 as
 being
 satanic
 where
as
 white
 always
 speaks
 of
 Christ
 as
 white
 speaks
 of
 him
 who
 is
 pure.
 The
 translator
 mixes
 the
 two
 words
 Conquering
 and
 conqueror
 which
 are
 two
 different
 functions.

 You
just
cannot
be
redeemed
only
but
instead
you
have
to
be
recreated
into
the
image
and
into
the
 likeness
 of
 Christ
 as
 both
 of
 these
 is
 a
 process
 in
 themselves.
 Once
 you
 have
 the
 relationship
 you
 have
to
develop
it
by
intimacy
and
if
we
sin
we
can
be
restored.
If
we
sin
fellowship
is
broken
but
 relationship
is
not
broken.
It
is
our
fellowship
that
then
develops
into
intimacy.
The
blood
works
for
 us
in
order
to
keep
us
in
what
is
termed
as
being
unbroken
fellowship
because
our
relationship
is
 legal.
 Man
 and
 wife
 can
 have
 a
 legal
 relationship
 but
 not
 enjoy
 intimate
 fellowship
 which
 then
 becomes
an
empty
shell
within
a
marriage.

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Many
believers
have
a
relationship
based
on
and
through
the
covenant
made
at
Calvary
but
 they
have
no
fellowship
with
the
father
from
day
to
day.
When
people
can
understand
this
 then
we
can
build
replica
worship
patterns
in
every
home
city
and
nation
for
what
is
fixed
in
 the
heavens
must
be
modelled
on
the
earth
for
if
we
build
it
according
to
the
pattern
he
will
 come
down
but
there
must
be
an
alter
first.
Worship
whether
personal
or
corporate
should
 connect
us
to
God
so
that
our
fellowship
with
him
becomes
complete
2
Corinthians
6:14‐18.

 Come
out
from
the
midst
meaning
come
away
from
anything
which
is
wrong
and
unclean

 says
Paul
in
Corinthians
so
as
your
fellowship
be
restored.
God
has
to
first
become
our
God
 before
 he
 becomes
 your
 father
 for
 a
 father
 welcomes
 you
 so
 that
 you
 can
 go
 to
 the
 next
 level
which
is
a
level
of
coming
into
son
ship.
 A
list
of
issues
that
break
our
fellowship
and
bonding
with
Christ
2
Corinthians
6:14‐18.

 1. No
bonding
V10
 2. No
partnership
 3. No
fellowship
 4. No
harmony
 5. No
common
ground
V
15
 6. No
agreement
V16
 7. No
results

 8. No
God
and
father
v
18
 9. No
son
ship
and
identity
V18
 10. No
habitation
and
no
presence
v19

 Now
if
life
and
fellowship
can
be
broken
and
the
bond
of
inner
peace
be
broken
we
must
 therefore
find
the
technology
for
remaining
in
fellowship.

 Matthew
13:37‐43
A
mixture
in
the
kingdom.
Tares
and
wheat
which
is
a
mixture
of
both
in
 the
kingdom
age.
In
the
time
of
the
kingdom
the
kingdom
should
manifest.
Lawlessness
is
 found
 manifesting
 in
 many
 believers
 lives
 and
 subsequently
 they
 cannot
 inherit
 the
 kingdom.
 We
 must
 get
 rid
 of
 the
 tares
 in
 our
 life
 so
 we
 can
 inherit
 that
 which
 Christ
 has
 already
laid
a
hold
of.
The
end
of
the
age
is
not
the
end
of
the
world
for
when
God
gets
all
 this
mixture
out
of
the
kingdom
the
age
of
righteousness
begins
to
shine
and
break
forth
for
 they
 will
 shine
 forth
 in
 the
 kingdom
 of
 their
 father
 Verse
 38.
 You
 can
 be
 a
 citizen
 of
 the
 kingdom
but
not
be
a
son
of
your
father.
In
Thailand
everyone
is
called
a
son
of
the
kingdom
 but
they
are
not
legitimate
true
sons
of
the
king.
 1. Leaven
is
a
picture
of
sin
and
it
has
power
to
influence.
Matthew
13
 2. Then
we
have
the
field
and
the
treasure
for
you
cannot
have
the
treasure
without
 buying
the
field.
Matthew
13:44
 3. The
parable
of
the
dragnet
which
takes
out
the
wicked
from
the
righteous.
Matthew
 13:47‐50.

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Sanctification
is
then
a
process
that
makes
me
holy
by
the
indwelling
choice
of
my
mind
and
 my
inner
man
for
holiness
is
not
religious
but
a
conscious
decision
and
choice
to
live
like
him
 in
both
his
nature
and
character.
When
I
want
this
mixture
taking
out
of
me
sanctification
is
 the
word
and
process
in
which
my
will
through
the
power
of
choice
changes
me
and
this
is
 done
 by
 and
 through
 the
 power
 of
 sanctification.
 When
 we
 come
 to
 the
 age
 of
 righteousness
lawlessness
is
broken
off
of
us.
Unless
the
age
of
sin
comes
to
an
end
in
your
 life
the
age
of
righteousness
and
kingdom
power
can
never
come.
You
cannot
have
church
 and
your
heart
be
full
of
bitterness
for
if
you
have
this
mixture
one
has
to
go
for
only
the
 true
 sons
 enter
 and
 inherit
 the
 kingdom.
 In
 order
 for
 TARES
 to
 be
 burned
 off
 God
 uses
 people
who
through
the
power
of
a
righteous
man
can
burn
it
off
of
you.
 The
different
types
of
seeds
which
are
satanic
forces
try
to
live
on
the
inside
of
our
lives
 and
subsequently
they
need
removing
so
that
the
age
of
righteousness
can
begin
to
shine
 forth
from
within
us.
 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.

The
seed
of
self
and
selfishness
 The
seed
of
discord
and
disunity
 The
seed
of
offense

 The
seed
of
unforgiveness

 The
seed
of
betrayal

 The
seed
of
Satan
 The
seed
of
lawlessness

God
has
to
remove
all
these
seeds
out
of
our
hearts
for
in
the
book
of
Geneses
God
had
to
 send
Joseph
to
Egypt
in
order
to
get
all
these
type
of
seeds
out
of
him
even
though
he
was
a
 man
full
of
vision.
He
learned
to
hold
that
which
was
working
for
him
but
he
had
issues
of
 contention
 working
 on
 the
 inside
 of
 his
 heart.
 He
 knew
 how
 to
 manipulate
 the
 power
 of
 self.
Jacob
loved
Joseph
and
why
because
Jacob
saw
himself
through
him
and
why
because
 it
works
based
on
the
power
of
seed.
The
parallel
of
Jacob
and
Joseph
is
amazing
as
self
is
 deeply
ingrained
into
both
of
these
two
characters.
He
saw
contention
rise
early
though
his
 childhood
seeing
his
mother
Lea
and
Rachel
fighting
for
then
he
saw
fighting
conflicts
with
 his
brothers
even
his
father
said
to
him
give
me
a
report
of
your
brothers.
Jacob
going
to
 prison
was
good
for
him
so
that
the
‘me’
that
was
in
Joseph
would
die
for
prison
was
good
 for
him.
The
‘me’
has
to
become
the
‘me’
built
in
God
for
to
do
this
kills
the
power
of
self
 and
its
seed
from
out
of
my
life.
The
seed
of
the
enemy
can
only
operate
when
you
have
a
 carnal
mind
for
this
is
the
operational
platform
it
seeks.
 Romans
8:1
In
Christ
means
that
if
we
are
in
Christ
we
will
not
have
internal
laws
working
on
 the
inside
 of
our
hearts
but
instead
we
work
freely
hence
why
there
is
no
condemnation.
 There
is
now
no
condemnation
means
there
are
no
more
barriers
in
our
lives
because
there
 is
a
new
law
operating
in
us
through
Jesus
Christ
which
is
the
law
of
the
spirit
setting
us
free.
 When
you
look
at
the
law
of
gravity
a
greater
law
can
overpower
it
by
a
greater
power
it’s
 called
the
airplane.
Impetus
Inertia
and
Momentum
are
all
laws
that
need
to
be
understood

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in
order
for
the
law
of
movement
and
gravity
to
be
overcome.
Force
and
movement
and
lift
 all
work
and
are
based
on
laws
but
righteousness
grace
truth
and
empowerment
will
set
you
 free
for
if
you
do
not
live
by
this
law
you
are
pulled
back
shut
down
from
further
kingdom
 advancement
and
movement.
Sin
has
to
be
shut
down
in
the
human
body
just
as
it
was
in
 his
Son
Jesus
in
order
for
this
new
law
to
kick
in.
When
the
law
came
in
the
law
could
never
 abolish
 sin
 it
 just
 restricted
 and
 exposed.
 Only
 a
 son
 made
 in
 the
 likeness
 of
 human
 flesh
 one
who
demonstrates
all
the
fullness
must
show
the
power
of
shutting
down
the
flesh
by
 walking
clean
pure
and
holy
albeit
in
a
human
body.
It
is
by
a
human
body
working
in
him
 that
brought
the
right
and
just
requirements
so
that
by
them
the
God
requirements
could
 be
fulfilled
and
justified
that
which
was
required.

 Everything
that
comes
from
heaven
and
happens
to
you
must
pass
though
you
so
that
it
has
 a
body
of
its
own
a
body
that
has
been
fully
prepared
for
him.
You
have
to
configure
that
 which
God
has
said
and
done
through
your
life.
Heaven
cannot
come
down
unless
it
is
first
 carried
 through
 a
 body
 and
 though
 a
 life.
 Colossians
 1:19
 &
 Colossians
 2:9
 Isaiah
 61
 God
 dwelt
inside
of
Jesus
at
the
waters
of
Baptism
with
his
spirit
and
this
we
call
the
incarnate
 deity.
God
had
to
wait
to
get
a
body
John
3:34
so
he
could
reside
in
Christ
in
full
measure.

If
 God
 wants
 to
 act
 like
 the
 creator
 and
 healer
 he
 can
 do
 this
 albeit
 through
 our
 body.
 God
 shows
us
though
these
scriptures
that
God
when
wanting
to
manifest
can
only
do
it
through
 the
human
body
this
is
called
the
amazing
incarnate
body.

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Remember:
the
picture
of
a
car.
The
car
is
symbolic
of
the
church
but
when
the
car
breaks
 the
 sudden
 stoppage
 cause
 the
 passengers
 to
 leave
 the
 vehicle.
 The
 vehicle
 is
 built
 for
 impact
and
stress
but
despite
this
it
stays
in
control
and
focused.
When
the
driver
is
driving
 the
vehicle
and
people
in
the
back
are
telling
us
where
to
go
and
how
to
drive
it’s
easy
to
 become
distracted
and
when
you
are
distracted
you
can
easily
get
hit
by
someone
pulling
 out
 on
 us
 for
 as
 soon
 as
 the
 church
 has
 a
 bump
 those
 sat
 in
 the
 back
 suddenly
 shoot
 forward
and
exit
the
church
car.
 The
church
should
not
be
a
two
wheeled
church
but
a
true
prophetic
apostolic
church
must
 have
and
become
a
four
wheeled
driven
vehicle.
A
four
wheeled
vehicle
can
drive
in
difficult
 terrains
hills
valleys
snow
even
drive
through
rising
waters.

 The
lesson
of
the
bus
driver
everyday
he
has
one
thing
to
do
one
purpose
to
fulfil
and
that
is
 take
his
bus
out
on
the
designated
route
which
is
his
primary
assignment.
He
drives
his
bus
 and
some
people
get
on
and
some
people
get
off
this
is
the
nature
of
those
travelling
on
his
 bus.
 When
 he
 stops
 you
 never
 see
 the
 driver
 crying
 in
 sadness
 for
 those
 getting
 off.
 He
 smiles
when
people
get
on
and
cries
when
they
get
off
for
if
he
did
this
he
would
never
drive
 the
bus.
Those
getting
off
want
to
delay
him
on
his
journey
and
those
who
want
to
ride
to
 the
end
are
angry
at
those
who
stop
them
reaching
the
place
called
finish
drive
the
bus
for
 this
is
your
primary
assignment.

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Session
Nine
 Romans
 8:4‐7
 During
 Jesus
 forty
 days
 and
 nights
 which
 was
 immediately
 after
 his
 resurrection
 Jesus
 appeared
 for
 a
 period
 in
 order
 to
 speak
 to
 the
 disciples
 about
 the
 kingdom.
John
20:19‐21
Jesus
was
on
his
own
the
father
was
not
in
him
nor
the
spirit
at
this
 time
showing
us
all
the
power
was
in
his
human
soul.
Jesus
spirit
needed
God
the
first
Adam
 when
in
the
garden
was
a
life
giving
soul
but
Christ
was
a
life
giving
spirit
and
we
receive
 new
life
when
we
are
in
the
spirit
for
when
we
are
in
the
spirit
we
give
life
to
our
mind
soul
 and
body.
John
10:10.
‘Life
and
life
more
abundantly.
Jesus
said
into
your
hands
I
commend
 my
spirit
so
the
spirit
of
Jesus
was
left
up
in
heaven.

 1
Peter
1:10‐12
what
was
operating
in
the
Old
Test
Patriarchs
was
the
spirit
of
Christ
and
 now
they
were
prophesying
about
the
one
that
was
in
them.
Jesus
in
a
moment
was
called
 the
everlasting
father
and
not
the
father
as
there
is
only
one
father
for
out
of
Jesus
comes
a
 whole
generation.
When
these
guys
were
prophesying
the
spirit
of
Christ
was
indicating
to
 them
 this
 is
 not
 about
 just
 anyone
 but
 this
 about
 the
 Christ.
 When
 Jesus
 goes
 down
 into
 Paradise
 he
 meets
 all
 these
 patriarchs
 and
 though
 they
 hadn’t
 met
 them
 personally
 the
 spirit
on
them
knows
him.
When
we
read
about
these
guys
the
spirit
that
is
in
us
indicates
 to
us
that
we
know
how
them
as
the
spirit
witnesses
with
what
they
are
saying.
Remember
 what
Peter
said
regarding
Joel
in
that
he
said
at
Pentecost
this
is
that
which
Joel
prophesied
 about
as
God
poured
out
his
spirit
upon
all
flesh.
Recreation
is
not
done
by
age
but
by
spirit
 dimensions
this
is
why
we
must
raise
a
generation
so
we
can
put
that
which
we
carry
into
 them
 raising
 another
 generation
 by
 touching
 and
 building
 and
 breathing
 upon
 them
 for
 when
we
do
this
their
mind
will
catch
up
later.
Society
works
cerebrally
in
its
thinking
and
 philosophy
 but
 spirit
 dimensions
 are
 not
 cerebral.
 Many
 of
 our
 church
 members
 are
 not
 going
 to
 change
 and
 they
 will
 die
 in
 their
 ignorance
 and
 religiosity
 but
 if
 they
 can
 give
 us
 their
children
we
can
bring
a
whole
generation
across.
To
them
that
received
him
he
gave
 them
the
power
to
become
like
him
for
Jesus
is
the
fullness
of
God
manifested
in
the
flesh
 and
breathed
upon
us.
This
is
why
we
can
know
the
past
present
and
future
for
we
not
only
 have
the
spirit
of
Christ
but
we
have
the
mind
of
Christ
making
us
far
beyond
even
our
own
 understanding.
We
not
only
know
what
is
being
said
but
our
life
points
to
that
which
was
 once
previously
spoken
of
by
the
prophets.
We
know
and
have
entered
into
more
than
the
 prophets
because
we
have
the
spirit
and
mind
of
Christ
they
only
had
the
mind
of
God.
John
 16:9
 The
Holy
Spirit
is
our
internal
processing
unit
once
I
have
been
reconfigured
and
recreated
 in
my
spirit
man.
That
which
is
being
said
and
that
which
has
been
put
into
me
he
makes
it
 known
to
me.
The
issue
is
me
remaining
in
him
by
walking
living
moving
and
have
my
being
 in
him
meaning
Christ
for
this
is
where
life
is
revealed.
Before
it
can
show
up
on
the
external
 screen
 things
 have
 to
 be
 revealed
 on
 the
 inside
 for
 truth
 remains
 on
 the
 inside.
 When
 I
 understand
all
the
internal
programmes
given
to
me
by
the
CSP
Calvary
software
package
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through
the
Holy
Spirit
has
to
reveal
to
me
the
programmes
that
speak
about
his
life
nature
 character
and
wisdom.

 Knowing the dimensions of Christ Life and life abundant dwelling inside of you st

1 dimension Life 1. Christ
in
me
and
I
in
Christ
is
the
first
dimension:
for
apart
from
him
there
is
no
life.
 2. The
Christ
that
is
up
in
heaven
is
ruling
and
reigning
but
your
enemies
laugh
at
you
 showing
you
there
is
another
dimension
to
be
lived.

 3. The
power
to
speak
and
be
it
which
is
another
dimension
 4. We
 carry
 the
 written
 code
 that
 cancels
 the
 law
 of
 sin
 and
 death.
 My
 cultural
 thoughts
 and
 limitations
 along
 with
 other
 evidential
 works
 of
 the
 flesh
 are
 all
 cancelled
through
the
code.
 5. The
seed
is
to
reproduce
his
image
and
likeness
in
your
behaviour
 6. The
 power
 to
 go
 into
 the
 heavens
 touching
 him
 whilst
 remaining
 on
 the
 earth
 through
 possessing
 the
 spirit
 of
 Christ.
 In
 your
 spirit
 you
 have
 been
 to
 the
 holy
 of
 holies.
 7. We
carry
within
us
his
potential
wisdom
knowledge
nature
and
character
 8. The
 power
 to
 have
 the
 law
 fulfilled
 a
 law
 that
 once
 could
 never
 be
 abolished
 or
 fulfilled.
 9. We
carry
within
us
the
tree
of
life
but
as
we
trust
in
him
we
feed
on
him
rather
than
 feeding
our
own
understanding.
Trust
in
the
life
inside
of
you
and
not
in
your
own
 thinking.

 10. The
power
to
stand
on
a
sure
foundation
the
foundation
that
the
patriarchs
spoke
 about
and
knew
themselves.
 11. Advance
the
kingdom
on
the
earth.
 nd

2

dimension

Life
more
Abundantly:
he
who
has
the
son
has
life
 1. The
Holy
Spirit
dwells
in
us
in
an
unlimited
life.
 2. The
Holy
Spirit
guides
and
governs
us
when
he
dwells
in
us.

 3. When
I
am
in
the
spirit
I
am
one
with
Jesus
for
he
who
is
joined
with
him
is
one
with
 him
as
this
is
a
dimension
of
Christ.
 You
cannot
live
a
contained
life
reducing
the
life
of
Christ
down
to
your
culture,
experiences
 personality
or
internal
fears
thus
capturing
the
life
of
Christ
within
us.
We
can
push
this
off
 us
because
we
can
defeat
the
law
of
sin
and
death
for
no
longer
this
law
holds
you
this
is
a
 dimension
 of
 Christ.
 For
 where
 he
 is
 we
 also
 are
 with
 him
 from
 this
 place
 life
 abundance
 begins.

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3rd
dynamic:

Life eternal In the spirit we are allowed to minister to him God
can
be
touched
because
you
are
living
in
him.
When
you
worship
you
go
through
and
 by
the
Shekinah
glory
which
opens
up
for
you
the
veil
as
we
are
caught
up
into
his
presence.
 When
we
are
caught
up
it
is
to
hear
things
that
are
not
spoken
by
ordinary
people
things
 that
we
are
not
or
previously
could
not
have
heard
as
we
go
all
the
way
to
the
council
table.
 As
we
enter
we
enter
in
to
a
life
that
is
free
for
us
to
enter.

 1. Person
of
God
is
behind
the
veil
 2. The
Holy
Spirit
is
behind
the
veil
 3. Jesus
is
behind
the
veil
as
all
three
are
in
physical
tangible
and
spiritual
form
as
they
 teach
us
how
to
minister
to
the
father
&
son
by
the
spirit
of
truth.
Remember
the
 light
of
Christ
never
bends
on
substance
because
everything
must
be
transparent
for
 there
 is
 no
 law
 of
 refraction
 in
 heaven
 for
 light
 and
 life
 does
 not
 bend
 to
 and
 for
 nothing.
Being
caught
up
into
his
presence
ministering
to
him
exposes
us
so
that
we
 are
transparent
before
him
so
that
our
worship
can
be
seen
for
what
it
is
this
way
 heaven
can
see
whether
it
is
in
spirit
and
whether
you
worship
him
in
truth.

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Session
10:
 Christ
the
Ox
Christ
the
Lamb
Christ
the
Sovereign
one
Christ
the
man
Christ
the
living
one
 all
creation
speaks
of
Jesus;
Gods
greatest
move.
 Side
note
on
Marriage,
we
do
not
marry
to
settle
down
but
we
marry
to
join
strength.
We
 do
not
marry
hoping
that
which
I
lack
she
will
bring
to
my
life
this
is
inaccurate
and
will
lead
 to
 disappointment
 and
 frustration.
 The
 purpose
 of
 marriage
 is
 to
 join
 strength
 together
 whereas
the
benefit
of
marriage
will
be
to
receive
things
you
didn’t
enter
with.




 Romans
8:2‐11
continued
from
the
previous
session.
 For the law of the spirit of life to function you must carry the spirit of Christ within you For the law of the spirit of life to function the Holy Spirit s life must function within us.
In
your
life
soul
and
body
but
you
have
to
shut
down
the
operation
 of
the
law
of
sin
and
of
death
by
shutting
down
the
carnal
mind.
Te
first
thing
you
have
to
 do
when
you
are
born
again
is
to
pull
your
mind
back
and
give
it
over
to
the
Holy
Spirit
this
 is
called
shutting
down
the
carnal
mind
and
renewing
the
spirit
mind
 What is this carnal mind? The
carnal
mind
is
set
on
the
things
of
the
flesh.
This
means
the
interest
of
men
and
not
the
 interest
of
God
for
the
carnal
mind
brings
death
Matthew
16:22‐23.
Get
behind
me
Satan
 you
 are
 a
 stumbling
 block
 because
 he
 set
 his
 mind
 on
 men’s
 interest
 rather
 than
 Gods
 interest.

When
you
speak
to
people
in
a
room
there
are
two
crowds
one
is
totally
sold
out
 to
God
and
the
other
crowd
is
for
God
but
their
carnal
mind
is
also
interested
and
is
not
fully
 set
 on
 the
 things
 of
 God
 so
 that
 when
 you
 speak
 you
 have
 to
 speak
 to
 both
 crowds
 the
 honourable
ones
and
dishonourable
ones
which
is
embarrassing
to
the
preacher.
It’s
not
fair
 when
 you
 have
 to
 address
 everyone
 where
 there
 are
 a
 few
 who
 are
 not
 in
 and
 up
 to
 the
 same
standard.
When
this
happens
when
you
minister
truth
people
can
become
offended
 because
you
have
to
address
the
entire
crowd.
To
be
able
to
speak
freely
without
thinking
 what
will
the
people
say
is
not
easy
hence
why
the
carnal
mind
is
much
easier
to
develop
 For the law of the spirit to function I must understand that the carnal mind brings death to the life of the spirit of Christ alive within me therefore must be shut down. All
the
software
life
that
is
built
into
you
is
easy
for
Satan
to
attack
hence
why
it
has
to
be
 shut
down.
If
you
are
a
worshiper
you
cannot
allow
your
carnal
life
to
cross
with
your
life
in
 Christ
because
of
you
do
this
you
will
bring
the
wrong
spirit
into
the
house
and
the
wrong
 spirit
will
also
operate
within
you.
Think
of
vegetables
the
body
doesn’t
like
it
but
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is
not

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about
like
it
is
about
health
and
sustainability.
Life
isn’t
doing
what
you
like
but
doing
what
 is
right
 For the law of the spirit to function: The carnal mind must be seen as hostile towards God.
There
is
enmity
between
of
God
and
enmity
between
the
seed
 of
 the
 serpent.
 Genesis
 the
 seed
 will
 bruise
 the
 head
 of
 the
 enemy.
 Whenever
 the
 seed
 comes
 to
 you
 in
 spirit
 dimension
 your
 mind
 reacts
 because
 of
 things
 previously
 sown
 showing
you
that
you
have
a
carnal
mind.
You
have
to
come
to
the
place
where
you
say
not
 my
 will
 but
 yours
 be
 done
 for
 when
 you
 come
 to
 this
 point
 you
 have
 spirituality.
 If
 you
 struggle
for
ten
years
with
carnality
and
then
come
to
the
point
where
you
finally
killed
it
 don’t
 give
 testimony
 as
 this
 is
 not
 celebratory
 for
 it
 is
 a
 testimony
 of
 rebellion
 and
 as
 we
 know
rebellion
shouldn’t
be
celebrate
just
learnt
from.

 The carnal mind wars against the other members of my body creating internal conflict.
This
is
why
you
become
sick
and
lose
your
peace
Romans
 7:22‐23.
In
your
spirit
you
love
God
but
in
your
soul
you
hate
your
brother
and
because
of
 this
you
have
no
peace
with
man
and
you
have
war
with
God.
When
you
live
like
this
you
 lose
your
sleep
and
when
you
lose
your
sleep
it
hits
your
body
and
when
this
happens
you
 become
sick
all
because
your
spirit
is
at
war
with
your
members.


 The carnal mind will not subject its self to the laws of God this is why you have to bring it down by force.
You
must
make
every
thought
captive
and
 not
become
a
captive
to
that
which
is
attacking
you.
You
must
hold
the
thought
captive
so
it
 doesn’t
make
you
captive
for
to
do
this
is
pulling
down
strongholds
2
Corinthians
10:3‐8.
If
 you
want
to
be
built
up
you
have
to
pull
down
pull
down
every
speculation
and
stronghold
 things
that
are
inside
of
the
carnal
mind
and
why
because
it
will
not
subject
its
self.
 The carnal mind can never please God.
If
you
live
with
a
renewed
mind
you
will
 please
 God
 for
 this
 is
 my
 son
 in
 him
 I
 will
 please
 this
 was
 said
 before
 Jesus
 had
 a
 visual
 performance.
 Some
 mornings
 musicians
 do
 not
 play
 well
 as
 the
 drummers
 sticks
 create
 wings
 and
 fly
 out
 of
 his
 hands
 strings
 snap
 on
 guitars
 these
 things
 do
 not
 rely
 on
 performance
but
we
do
this
because
we
love
him
and
not
because
we
perform
for
him
as
he
 will
not
change
his
feelings
towards
him.
You
think
by
trying
harder
and
then
never
feeling
 the
 best
 was
 not
 good
 enough
 is
 because
 the
 carnal
 mind
 is
 speaking.
 The
 spiritual
 mind
 brings
internal
peace
rather
than
the
carnal
mind
which
brings
inner
frustration.
Remember
 sharks
have
a
ministry
of
smelling
blood
and
why
because
they
are
programmed
by
God
as
it
 is
their
sonar
radar
so
that
blood
becomes
their
food.
 The carnal mind operates by speculation rather than by responding to the truth.
Did
God
say’
came
the
question;
well,
it
could
happen
I
don’t
know?
The
 carnal
 mind
 questions
 in
 order
 to
 undermine
 rather
 than
 to
 learn.
 The
 carnal
 mind
 is
 programmed
by
the
devil
for
one
purpose
and
one
purpose
only
and
that
is
for
destruction.
 How
 many
 times
 as
 a
 pastor
 if
 I
 do
 not
 make
 comments
 people
 think
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speculating
 I
 don’t
 care.
 You
 thinking
 this
 when
 actually
 they
 are
 not
 this
 is
 speculation
 based
 on
 a
 carnal
 mind
 this
 is
 the
 fruit
 of
 the
 carnal
 mind.
 The
 stock
 market
 works
 on
 speculation
 for
 the
 economy
 is
 stirred
 by
 speculation
 and
 this
 is
 why
 Babylon
 is
 satanic
 because
it
is
carnally
driven
by
spirits.
Remember
the
carnal
mind
is
filled
with
anxiety
and
 uncertainty
and
when
this
enters
you
and
me
it
brings
with
it
all
kinds
of
internal
confusion.
 The
 carnal
 mind
 when
 it
 breaks
 rules
 schemes
 away
 of
 how
 to
 get
 its
 self
 out
 of
 trouble
 including
 lying.
 See
 a
 child
 how
 its
 carnal
 mind
 works
 when
 it
 gets
 caught
 it
 hasn’t
 even
 been
to
university
and
took
a
course
in
psychology.
 The carnal mind is established around strongholds in our thinking patterns. Certain areas in our thinking patterns are called sacred cows for these are the sensitive taboo areas.
 If
 you
 touch
 these
 areas
 the
 inner
 man
 yells
 and
 becomes
 internally
 violent
 aggressive
 and
 agitated.
 Some
 people
 are
 sensitive
 when
 we
 talk
 about
 finance
 justice
 or
 family
 life
 for
 strong
 authority
 to
 these
 people
means
oppression
and
subjection
for
if
fly
off
the
handle
in
these
areas
its
proof
the
 carnal
 mind
 is
 operating.
 If
 you
 talk
 about
 these
 things
 this
 is
 clear
 proof
 that
 the
 carnal
 mind
has
an
internal
mind
because
anything
that
is
mentioned
is
seen
as
someone
attacking
 us.
You
call
it
sensitive
or
objective
but
subjective
they
are
not
even
opinionated
but
it’s
a
 stronghold.
Your
father
use
to
put
his
finger
in
your
face
and
then
the
pastor
one
day
says
 with
 his
 finger
 ‘we
 need
 to
 push
 into
 the
 presence
 of
 God
 and
 your
 carnal
 mind
 instantly
 says
‘ha,
ha,
‘there
is
your
father,
‘see
how
he
is
controlling
you
just
like
your
father
did.
 The
 carnal
 mind
 is
 conformed
 in
 its
 thinking
 patterns
 to
 worldly
 patterns
 and
 philosophy.
 Many
of
us
use
preachers
and
good
men’s
comments
thinking
they
are
good
philosophy
and
 then
 you
 use
 it
 but
 they
 do
 not
 measure
 up
 to
 the
 scriptures
 making
 philosophy
 stronger
 and
above
scripture.
If
you
trigger
one
philosophy
all
the
demons
of
hell
like
a
stack
of
cards
 will
fall.
The
philosophies
of
this
world
always
operate
in
contradictions
so
beware
of
using
 them.
If
you
keep
pushing
human
rights
people
will
pick
up
their
own
rights
and
when
they
 do
this
they
operate
by
spirit
driven
demons.

 The carnal mind cannot discern Gods will and purpose
Romans
12:8
 The carnal mind will destroy the life of faith
 within
me.
 Romans
 12:
 If
 you
 don’t
 think
 sound
 minded
 you
 will
 never
 feel
 faith
 in
 its
 measure
 because
 lies
 fear
 and
 doubt
will
be
there.
Your
mind
will
create
this
type
of
doubt
for
Jesus
said;
why
do
you
use
 your
fear
to
shut
down
your
faith.
You
need
sound
judgement
as
this
will
allow
faith
to
rise.
 When you operate in the carnal mind you have wrong perceptions and these perceptions cause you to develop a wrong evaluation of life and lifestyle.

 Wrong
perceptions
of
man
found
in
Genesis
3:7‐15.

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A
wrong
perception
of
Self:
I
am
naked
I
have
sinned
and
no
good
I
can’t
stand
before
him
I
 am
afraid.
I
need
to
seek
out
my
own
salvation.
I
must
have
lion
covering
rather
than
have
 gods
 covering.
 I
 just
 want
 a
 prophetic
 father
 I
 don’t
 need
 a
 father.
 Bale
 me
 out
 is
 not
 covering
this
is
insurance.
 A
 wrong
 perception
 of
 self
 preservation:
 I
 need
 to
 do
 something
 for
 myself,
 you
 understand
don’t
you,
this
is
what
people
with
self
preservation
say.
When
Adam
blamed
 Eve
and
Eve
blamed
the
serpent
they
both
were
looking
after
themselves.
My
heart
is
with
 you,
 you
 understand
 don’t
 you
 pastor
 as
 they
 are
 heading
 off
 to
 do
 something
 that
 they
 know
that
doesn’t
match
up
with
our
values
and
way
of
living.
People
say,
pastor
my
heart
 is
clean
I
cannot
come
on
Sunday
but
you
know
I
will
listen
to
your
message
don’t
you.
What
 they
are
doing
is
for
their
preservation
not
yours.
 A
 wrong
 perception
 of
 our
 position:
 Adams
 perception
 was
 to
 think
 I
 cannot
 rule
 as
 a
 prince
in
this
place
for
I
must
hide
in
a
bush
because
I
am
a
slave
to
sin.
 A
wrong
perception
of
the
presence
of
God:
Adam
thought
that
God
was
coming
to
kill
him
 because
they
violated
the
presence
of
God.
When
People
enter
troubles
the
first
place
they
 withdraw
 from
 is
 the
 presence
 of
 God
 and
 why
 because
 of
 the
 wrong
 perceptions.
 When
 you
 have
 had
 a
 though
 and
 inwardly
 you
 feel
 guilty
 your
 guilt
 says
 you
 cannot
 enter
 the
 presence
of
God
for
God
will
not
welcome
you
this
is
a
wrong
perception
coming
from
the
 carnal
mind.



 A
 wrong
 perception
 of
 the
 conditions
 in
 the
 environment:
 When
 people
 see
 things
 changing
they
make
alternative
changes
on
their
own.
People
look
at
then
make
their
own
 evaluation
 of
 what
 is
 taking
 place
 and
 then
 they
 create
 from
 their
 own
 perception
 they
 make
a
judgement
or
a
decision.
When
people
interpret
what
they
think
is
happening,
the
 changes
that
you
are
making
for
their
benefit
causes
them
to
move
in
an
opposite
direction.


 A
wrong
perception
of
the
woman:
He
now
sees
that
he
was
better
off
alone
so
now
the
 wrong
perception
 brings
 separation
 all
 because
of
 God’s
plan.
 It
was
the
woman
that
you
 gave
to
me
became
Adam’s
complaint.
Wrong
perceptions
can
bring
isolation
or
separation
 for
this
is
what
both
Adam
and
Eve
by
their
wrong
perception
was
about
to
do.
 The
Perception
of
Satan:
He
is
the
one
creating
all
the
problems.
How
many
believers
blame
 Satan
for
their
problems?
It
wasn’t
me
that
did
this
it
was
another
power
that
made
me
do
 it
becomes
our
cry.
We
often
say,
‘sorry
it
wasn’t
my
hand
that
hit
you
there
was
another
 power.
If
pastor
hadn’t
of
said
or
done
this
I
wouldn’t
have
responded
in
this
way.

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Session
Eleven
 When
John
was
in
the
spirit
he
could
hear
and
cry
showing
us
that
the
spirit
world
is
very
 real.
For
those
who
connect
with
the
spirit
find
it
very
easy
to
go
to
the
other
side
so
much
 so
that
I
have
been
told
from
a
very
reliable
source
that
when
you
have
crossed
over
to
the
 other
 side
 in
 the
 spirit
 you
 have
 to
 consciously
 pull
 yourself
 to
 remain
 on
 the
 earth.
 Remember
in
the
spirit
‘knowledge’
is
given
to
you
by
sight
for
what
you
look
at
you
either
 understand
or
you
learn
from.




 2
Corinthians
10:2‐6
three
areas
mentioned
here:


 1. Stronghold

 2. Speculations

 3. Lofty
things:
meaning
things
that
rise
up
against
the
knowledge
of
God.
 
 The
carnal
mind
has
to
be
arrested
so
that
the
life
of
God
can
break
forth
for
this
warfare
is
 inside
of
our
minds.
If
these
things
are
not
there
yes
to
Gods
will
is
obvious
but
if
they
are
 there
you
will
never
develop
the
mind
of
Christ.
You
have
the
spirit
of
Christ
and
now
you
 must
develop
the
mind
of
Christ.
Your
spirit
is
given
to
you
by
the
sovereign
works
of
God
 but
 your
 mind
 has
 to
 be
 developed
 as
 you
 give
 yourself
 to
 God.
 When
 people
 keep
 continually
 doing
 things
 that
 they
 know
 is
 wrong
 things
 that
 they
 said
 yes
 to
 it
 is
 a
 stronghold
 for
 its
 only
 by
 acting
 upon
 it
 that
 it
 is
 destroyed.
 Why
 do
 people
 react
 on
 the
 inside
to
an
outside
problem
because
the
problem
is
alive
on
the
inside?
 2
 Thessalonians
 2:9‐12
 I
 pray
 that
 we
 become
 lovers
 of
 the
 truth
 so
 much
 so
 that
 we
 are
 prepared
to
hurt
ourselves.
They
loved
not
their
lives
unto
death.
The
truth
that
you
have
 comes
at
a
cost
for
when
you
break
thorough
into
new
love
you
are
willing
to
hurt
yourself
 in
 order
 to
 protect
 the
 truth.
 When
 you
 abandon
 truth
 you
 are
 then
 given
 over
 to
 the
 delusions
of
your
own
carnal
mind.


 2
Timothy
3:
1‐6
speaks
about
lovers
of
self,
lovers
of
money,
lovers
of
gossip
and
violence
 and
 self
 and
 religion
 always
 learning
 but
 never
 come
 to
 the
 place
 of
 truth.
 A
 lover
 of
 knowledge
but
their
folly
is
clear
to
all
but
you
however
follow
after
my
teaching
which
is
 holding
and
following
having
a
love
for
the
truth.

 If
 you
 have
 a
 thought
 and
 entertain
 anything
 which
 is
 not
 true
 this
 is
 how
 speculation
 begins.
 If
 a
 man
 is
 speaking
 to
 a
 young
 girl
 your
 mind
 speculates
 wrongly
 on
 a
 wrong
 perception.
 When
 we
 have
 wrong
 perceptions
 or
 delusions
 the
 only
 thing
 that
 turns
 it
 around
is
the
knowledge
of
God
knowledge
that
comes
from
about
for
when
we
do
this
we
 are
taking
the
thought
captive.
 The
 faster
 you
 can
 tap
 into
 the
 knowledge
 of
 God
 the
 more
 you
 can
 pull
 down
 lofty
 thoughts
speculations
and
strongholds.

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1
Corinthians
2:9‐13
 We
have
the
mind
of
Christ
in
Romans
8
e
have
the
spirit
of
Christ
and
the
last
step
is
to
 have
the
body
of
Christ
but
you
must
believe.

 You
 have
 already
 allowed
 your
 spirit
 to
 be
 recreated
 by
 the
 spirit
 of
 Christ
 then
 why
 not
 allow
our
mind
to
be
renewed.
We
are
to
have
his
mind
we
must
find
out
what
is
in
his
mind
 for
to
understand
this
we
will
desire
it
such
as.

 The
mind
of
Christ
will
carry...
 Things which; are beyond flesh and blood.
You
don’t
receive
by
concluding
but
 by
receiving
through
revelation
 Things which the father reveals to you:
Eyes
have
not
seen
nor
has
it
entered
 into
the
heart
of
man
but
the
father
has
revealed
it
to
you
in
Christ
all
the
things
the
father
 is
saying
will
be
revealed
to
you.
 Things that the Holy Spirit will reveal to us on time as well as in time when we are ready.
 Ephesians
 3:5.
 Things
 that
 were
 not
 ready
 to
 be
 revealed
 are
 revealed
now
for
us
when
we
are
ready
or
when
maturity
kicks
in.
When
we
need
access
in
 order
to
enter
wisdom
and
open
doors
are
revealed
and
opened
on
time
and
in
time
for
in
 that
day
Jesus
said
do
not
worry
what
to
say
for
I
will
give
it
to
you.
 Things which; are in the depth of Gods hearts.
Things
that
are
hidden
in
Gods
 heart
access
will
be
given
to
enter
and
know
for
god
will
not
hide
anything
from
you.
Shall
I
 hide
from
Abraham
what
I
am
about
to
do
and
the
answer
returned
no
I
will
reveal
to
him
 that
which
I
am
about
to
do.
 Things which; are in his thoughts on any given issue.
 
 Things
 such
 as
 ‘his
 mind
 and
 ‘perception
 of
 a
 matter.
 What
 is
 God
 thinking?
 What
 is
 his
 way
 his
 view
 are
 all
 released
to
us.
This
is
why
we
can
walk
into
the
mind
of
Christ
because
when
the
mind
and
 the
spirit
agree
it
then
shall
be
done.
 Things which; are freely given to us by God.
The
mind
of
God
has
access
to
 this.
Things
are
being
released
in
the
spirit
the
question
is
whose
mind
can
capture
it.
We
 cannot
have
access
to
things
if
we
do
not
have
the
mind
of
God
on
the
matter.
 

 Things which are of the realm and dimensions of the Spirit.
Verse
14
the
 natural
man
does
not
accept
things
that
are
not
of
God.
Anything
that
is
being
spoken
by
 God
you
can
pick
it
up
irrespective
of
who
the
vehicle
being
used.

All
of
creation
is
declaring
 the
goodness
of
God
and
the
heavens
declare
his
glory
who
is
declaring
this
glory
those
who
 have
the
mind
of
Christ.
The
wind
and
the
waves
the
hills
birds
and
mountains
speak
and

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when
I
tony
enter
into
this
real
I
will
understand
the
groaning
of
creation
as
it
groans
for
the
 manifestation
of
God.
If
it
groans
someone
must
be
able
to
hear
it.

 Things which; God is declaring and being spoken in heaven.
Verse
6:
The
 spirit
 of
 prophesy
 is
 the
 testimony
 of
 Jesus.
 This
 is
 the
 role
 of
 heaven
 to
 revel
 to
 us
 the
 thoughts
and
expressed
will
to
us
his
servants.
 Things which; have their origin in God.
Ho
has
known
the
mind
of
the
lord
which
 is
different
from
the
mind
of
Christ.
God
doesn’t
need
anyone
to
help
him
think
for
the
mind
 of
God
declares
whereas
the
mind
of
Christ
reveals
and
takes
Gods
words
as
being
complete
 it
does
not
attack
it
just
conforms
to
that
which
has
been
settled
and
sealed.
 Things which; transfer Gods wisdom to us so that we can execute his purpose upon the earth.
Think
on
these
things
verse
7:


 2
Corinthians
4:10‐11
this
scripture
is
telling
us
that
we
can
have
the
body
of
Christ
 We
have
the
mid
of
Christ
the
life
of
Christ
and
the
body
of
Christ.

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