Climate Discussion Group 2024 - CDG2024
Weekly Newsletter
26th October 2024
Gerald Ratzer - Host and Moderator
Professor Emeritus, McGill University, Canada
Email: gerald.ratzer@mcgill.ca
Click on hotlinks in any box to go to that topic.
Welcome to CDG2024 – the Climate Discussion Group. There has been considerable activity this last week and the Newsletter is a reminder of what has changed recently. To find a particular part of the discussion go to the category C1 to C7 or P1 to P6, see the colored boxes below. The entries are in date order with the most recent posts at the top.
Here are the ones that I think merit your attention – by category and date.
In C1 (General) on the 25th October, there is an interesting discussion –initiation by John Sackett post on Page 2 and a fast response by Terigi Ciccone on Page 1.
In C2 (Thermodynamics) on the 25th October, there are two posts worthwhile to consider. The first is from Uli Weber and explains the problem with a flat disk and dividing by 4 for an average, is not acceptable input to the Stefan-Boltzmann equation.
Also, in C2 on the 25th October, there is a very good summary of what is taught in US schools and what is the climate reality. Marty Cornell looks at the eighth-grade climate curriculum and indoctrination.
On the Climate Policy side, there has been considerable discussion.
In P3 (Net Zero) on 21st October, Paul Homewood argues “The Case Against Net Zero”.
Also, in P3 on 19th October, Ronald Stein has a note on Biden's misuse of funds for electricity generation.
In P5 (Climate Economics) 17th October is an excellent 42-minute video of
Steve Koonin presenting his views on Climate and Energy Policy. Worth viewing. In P5 is a report from Greg Wrightstone of the CO2 Coalition, not to waste money on CO2 removal. Also, an interview with Ronald Stein and John Shanahan. In P6 (Benefits of CO2) there is a detailed report on Crop production and problems on a global basis, by Ray Garnett.
Click on the links below to get to the right category.
Box [1] Discussion:
Climate Concepts: Radiative Transfer Concept (RTC) -Heat Transport Concept (HTC).
(C1) General
October 12th page for Brian Catt on Energy Reality
(C2) Traditional gas physics, thermodynamics, and geothermal events help explain Earth’s weather.
October 15th . See the post by Eric Jelinski on GMST Global Mean Surface Temperature in Nature Journal. A surge in the GSMT trend is “not detectable” .
(C3) For RTC/HTC - where and when do they apply?
October 14th See Page 5 for submission by Ned Nikolov. Page 6 Howard Hayden and Brian Catt
Page 16 for more from both Nikolov and Zeller.
Box [2] Discussion:
Recommendations for Policy Makers
(P1) General
Oct. 11, 2024, Christopher Monckton – A powerful recommendation to the British Parliament with common sense ideas for government about policies for climate change
(P5) Economic impact of Net Zero on individuals and countries
October 17th Watch the 42minute webinar presentation by Steve Koonin. Very instructional at a high level, politicians should watch and understand this.
(P6) Benefits of CO2 - Greening of the Earth, record crop yields.
(C6) Thermalization of inbound visible sunlight and de-thermalisation of heat energy back to IR radiated back to space.
October 13th Paper by Dan Pangburn includes a good discussion of David Buton and Will Happer – worth the read.
(C7) Atmospheric physics, including auto compression
Watch the 15-minute interview of Ned Nikolov and Darwin Throne by Alex Newman.
Here are a few notes about the mode of operation of this Climate email discussion.
1. If you have not already done so, please send an email to Gerald.ratzer@mcgill.ca to say you want to participate in the moderated discussion and make a contribution or comment, as opposed to just reading the discussion.
2. Once you have decided to contribute some comments or other material, you should send a short bio, and a short email with links to any recent articles, papers, podcasts or slide shows you have created.
3. All accepted comments will be posted online at allaboutenergy.net. Scroll down to see the Sun (click on it) or use the search feature of the website to see the CDG2024 Home page or any author by name (just the family name). If the search field is not visible at the top left-hand side of the page –try the MS Edge/Bing browser.
4. There are two threads about which we would like to hear from you -
A. The discussion of the more technical aspects of Climate – RTC (Radiation Transfer Concept) and HTC (Heat Transport Concept), including other aspects of the atmosphere, including GHGs.
B. Short bulleted Recommendations for Policymakers. These can be items associated with Net Zero, CO2 reduction, fossil fuels, etc.
5. You can opt out of this newsletter if want by sending an email to the moderator. This could be as simple as returning this email with the word “Unsubscribe” in the Subject line.
6. Afinal reminder, that contributions should be reasonably short (a page or two), but can include links to recent papers and talks that are online. Please use hotlinks, whenever possible. Click on a category like C7, which has 15 pages of comments, links and other material, to see what other people have contributed to this topic.
7. Enjoy this research on the latest thinking in Climate Science.