Climate Discussion Group 2024 - CDG2024
Weekly Newsletter
19th October
2024
Gerald Ratzer - Host and Moderator
Professor Emeritus, McGill University, Canada
Email: gerald.ratzer@mcgill.ca
Click on hotlinks in any box to go to that topic.
New contributions since the last Newsletter
Box [1] Discussion:
Climate Concepts: Radiative Transfer Concept (RTC) - Heat Transport Concept (HTC).
(C1) General
October 12th page for Brian Catt on Energy reality
(C2) Traditional gas physics, thermodynamics, geothermal events help explain Earth’s weather
October 15th . See the post by Eric Jelinski on GMST Global Mean Surface Temperature in Nature Journal. A surge in the GSMT trend is “not detectable” .
(C3) For RTC/HTC - where and when do they apply?
October 14th See Page 5 for submission by Ned Nikolov. Page 6 Howard Hayden and Brian Catt. Page 16 for more from both Nikolov and Zeller.
Box [2] Discussion: Recommendations for Policy Makers
(P1) General
Oct. 11, 2024, Christopher Monckton – A powerful recommendation to British Parliament with common sense ideas for government about policies for climate change
(P5) Economic impact of Net Zero on individuals and countries
October 17th Watch the 42minute webinar presentation by Steve Koonin. Very instructional at a high level, politicians should watch and understand this.
(C6) Thermalization of inbound visible sunlight and deThermalization of heat energy back to IR radiated back to space
October 13th Paper by Dan Pangburn includes a good discussion of David Buton and Will Happer – worth the read.
(C7) Atmospheric physics , including auto compression
Watch the 15-minute interview of Ned Nikolov and Darwin Throne by Alex Newman.
Below the photo at the top of each category page is new text that has been added by John Shanahan. These captions are meant to give you some insight into the choice of photographs and how they relate to the topic. Some are more creative than technical! For example, for C7 –
Earth is the only planet or moon in the solar system with water in all three phases (liquid, gas, and ice) and with a perfect atmosphere to sustain myriad life forms. To understand climate, it is necessary to understand weather. To understand weather, it is necessary to include all significant climate forces and systems, and how they vary over time. Single-simplistic averages of sunlight, infrared radiation, greenhouse gases, albedo, etc. remove all the features of the Earth's uniqueness that shape our weather and how it varies all over the planet, all the time. Weather and climate are the total picture of all the parts, and not the story of static averages. John Shanahan, Civil Engineer.
Here are a few notes about the mode of operation of this Climate email discussion. This is a minor update to the first Newsletter.
1. If you have not already done so, please send an email to Gerald.ratzer@mcgill.ca to say you want to participate in the moderated discussion and make a contribution or comment, as opposed to just reading the discussion.
2. Once you have decided to contribute some comments or other material, you should send a short email with links to any recent articles, papers, podcasts or slide shows you have created.
3. All accepted comments will be posted online at allaboutenergy.net. Scroll down to see the Sun (click on it) or use the search feature of the website to see the CDG2024 Home page or any author by name. If the search field is not visible at the top left-hand side of the page – try the MS Edge/Bing browser.
4. There are two threads about which we would like to hear from you -
A. The discussion of the more technical aspects of Climate – RTC (Radiation Transfer Concept) and HTC (Heat Transport Concept), including other aspects of the atmosphere, including GHGs.
B. Short bulleted Recommendations for Policymakers. These can be items associated with Net Zero, CO2 reduction, fossil fuels, etc.
5. You can opt out of this newsletter if want by sending an email to the moderator. This could be as simple as returning this email with the word “Unsubscribe” in the Subject line.
6. The next diagrams show you how to get to the discussion and Newsletter, and what to expect in the way of navigation. Click on this link to access the main website used allaboutenergy.net
Scroll down to see this page – Click on the title or the photo of the Sun.
This will take you to the home page of CDG2024. There have been minor changes in titles since last week.
There are seven brightly colored boxes – also, numbered [1], [2]...
• The yellow box gives you access to the technical discussion, where there are seven sub-sections labeled (C1) to (C7).
• We would like contributors to suggest an appropriate category for their submissions - C1 to C7.
• The blue box has six categories for “Recommendations for Policymakers”. Again, please suggest a category (P1) to (P6) for your recommendations.
• The lower half of the Home Page looks like this -
• The green box will contain all the Newsletters so far.
• Box [4] will be of interest to you as it has the list of invitees, so far, and some of their recent papers and podcasts.
• Page two of the Home page has –
• This will contain the final reports.
Afinal reminder, that contributions should be reasonably short (a page or two), but can include links to recent papers and talks that are online. Please use hotlinks, whenever possible. Click on a category like C7, which has 15 pages of comments, links and other material, to see what other people have contributed to this topic.
Enjoy this research on the latest thinking in Climate Science.