Climate Discussion Group 2024 - CDG2024
Weekly Newsletter
2nd November 2024
Gerald Ratzer - Host and Moderator
Professor Emeritus, McGill University, Canada
Email: gerald.ratzer@mcgill.ca
Click on hotlinks in any box to go to that topic.
Welcome to CDG2024 – the Climate Discussion Group. There has been considerable activity this week and this Newsletter is a reminder of what has changed recently. To find a particular part of the discussion go to the category C1 to C7 or P1 to P6. The entries are in date order with the most recent posts at the top. The website for CDG2024 is Allaboutenergy.net
Here are the ones that I think merit your attention – by category and date.
In P1 (28th Oct, on page 3) there is a two-page letter to Purdue University by one of their professors telling the senior management to rethink their Climate Policy. The letter introduces the work of Robert Holmes, Ned Nikolov, and Karl Zeller, which is covered in our category C7, between 28th and 30th Oct. The research of these three scientists has been ongoing for over 10 years and is based on classical physics and thermodynamics. Most people outside Climate Science are not familiar with the terms adiabatic lapse rate and atmospheric auto-compression – but know that it gets colder as you climb a mountain. It is time this research was given the full exposure it deserves, and policymakers realize that Net Zero and projects like carbon sequestration are totally futile and hugely expensive. The funds for these plans should be spent on poverty reduction, giving everyone affordable and reliable electricity and spending taxpayers' money on infrastructure and social/medical services.
In C2 (30th Oct) there is part of a presentation to be made in 10 days at the Clintel Climate Conference in Prague. Pavel Kalenda is the Program Director, and his short 14-slide set is entitled “Which came first? Temperature or CO2?”
C7 has been the most active part of the CDG2024 discussion this week. In total, this category has 24 pages and gives references to many papers on the topic of auto-compression mentioned above. If you are not familiar with this research area – this is the category to visit.
More posts are available in P1, including an update from Viscount Monckton. Dated 30th Oct, is a summary of how African countries are being treated by the World Bank/IMF, while what they need is affordable, reliable electricity generation, based on their own resources. The World Bank should fund pollution control equipment for low-cost energy generation, even if that means burning local coal, in the first instance. Clean coal technology works and is used by Western countries.
Category P4 (29th Oct) has an addition from Ronald Stein and two other authors on how affordable, reliable electricity generation can solve the poverty issues for 4.5 billion people who are currently living off a few dollars a day.
Box [1] Discussion:
Climate Concepts: Radiative Transfer Concept (RTC) -Heat Transport Concept (HTC).
(C1) General
October 12th page for Brian Catt on Energy reality (C2) Traditional gas physics,
Box [2] Discussion:
Recommendations for Policy Makers
(P1) General
Oct. 11, 2024, Christopher Monckton – A powerful recommendation to the British Parliament with common sense ideas for government about
thermodynamics, geothermal events help explain Earth’s weather
(C3) For RTC/HTC - where and when do they apply?
October 14th See Page 5 for submission by Ned Nikolov. Page 6 Howard Hayden and Brian Catt
Page 16 for more from both Nikolov and Zeller.
(C6) Thermalization of inbound visible sunlight and deThermalization of heat energy back to IR radiated back to space
October 13th Paper by Dan Pangburn includes a good discussion of David Buton and Will Happer – worth the read.
(C7) Atmospheric physics , including auto compression
Watch the 15-minute interview of Ned Nikolov and Darwin Throne by Alex Newman.
policies for climate change
(P5) Economic impact of Net Zero on individuals and countries
October 17th Watch the 42minute webinar presentation by Steve Koonin. Very instructional at a high level, politicians should watch and understand this.
Here are a few notes about the mode of operation of this Climate email discussion.
1. If you have not already done so, please send an email to Gerald.ratzer@mcgill.ca to say you want to participate in the moderated discussion and make a contribution or comment, as opposed to just reading the discussion.
2. Once you have decided to contribute some comments or other material, you should send a short email with your bio and links to any recent articles, papers, podcasts or slide shows you have created.
3. All accepted comments will be posted online at allaboutenergy.net. Scroll down to see the Sun (click on it) or use the search feature of the website to see the CDG2024 Home page or any author by name. If the search field is not visible at the top left-hand side of the page – try the MS Edge/Bing browser.
4. There are two threads about which we would like to hear from you -
A. The discussion of the more technical aspects of Climate – RTC (Radiation Transfer Concept) and HTC (Heat Transport Concept), including other aspects of the atmosphere, including GHGs.
B. Short bulleted Recommendations for Policymakers. These can be items associated with Net Zero, CO2 reduction, fossil fuels, etc.
5. You can opt out of this newsletter if want by sending an email to the moderator. This could be as simple as returning this email with the word “Unsubscribe” in the Subject line.
6. Afinal reminder, that contributions should be reasonably short (a page or two), but can include links to recent papers and talks that are online. Please use hotlinks, whenever possible. Click on a category like C7, which has 24 pages of comments, links and other material, to see what other people have contributed to this topic.
7. Enjoy this research on the latest thinking in Climate Science.