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Madness Makes Its Return to MC Isaiah Rosario & Victor Franco Staff Writers
Madness Is Back!
The women’s basketball team was celebrated at the event last week.
Campus Dining Limits Hours at Locke’s Loft
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Katherine Heneghan Web Editor
Locke’s Loft, the main dining hall on campus, will remain at reduced hours for the foreseeable future of the 2021-2022 school year despite the conflicts this causes for some students. The dining hall is open Monday through Friday from 7:15 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and weekends from 11:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Ken Waldorf, director of business and client services at the college, told the Quadrangle via email that while these hours are the same as last year, it is a result of the last effects of the pandemic on the food service industry. “Several dining services establishments across the country have been affected by fewer resources and personnel. We are not an exception to that,” Waldorf wrote. Dining services understands the impact this may have on students and athletes
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who rely on Locke’s Loft allyou-can-eat dining for meals after night classes, practices or games. “To address those gaps, we have partnered with several off-campus eateries that take Dining and Jasper Dollars, and have meal plan eligible items in the C-Store in Thomas Hall that are available until 10pm,” Waldorf wrote. With most night classes ending after 8:00 p.m., this has proved to be a challenge for students. Sophomore member of the Manhattan College dance team Kathleen Connelly finds the hours inconvenient to her busy schedule with classes and practices. “Locke’s closing at 8 does affect my schedule. To be honest, all of Locke’s hours affect my schedule. I do not like to eat right before practice and by the time I get out of practice sometimes Locke’s is already closed,” she said. Yet, the night hours are
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not the only issue for various students who have busy schedules. “Even the early morning practices that I have on the weekends are messed up with Locke’s hours. There are many athletes on campus with varying practice times and Locke’s hours are not very accommodating,” said Connelly. While Jasper Dollars are accepted in restaurants and businesses surrounding campus, some students like Connelly believe this isn’t the solution. “After Locke’s closes, there are some delis or pizzerias that accept our Jasper Dollars, but they are not always so convenient as many people would prefer to not wander around the Bronx alone after it is dark,” she said. The typical resident meal plan on campus includes unlimited meal swipes at Locke’s Loft, $50 Dining Dollars to __________________________ CONTINUED ON PAGE 3
Manhattan Madness finally made it’s long-awaited return back to Draddy Gymnasium on Oct. 28. The exciting pep rally included cheering students with school spirit shirts and performances from the cheerleading team, dance team and the Pep Band. The event did not take place last year due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. Changes in Manhattan College guidelines in accordance with official CDC and New York City guidelines, the event was finally able to be held in person this semester. To attend the event and comply with these guidelines, students needed a Manhattan College ID (physical one or Glance app), proof of COVID-19 vaccination, and lastly a Green pass. Since the COVID-19 is still ongoing, masks were still required to attend the event per the college’s guidelines. With the number of people who were attending the event in a crowded space, questions arose on whether or not COVID-19 was going to be a large issue at the event. Freshman Brian Dunn explained to the Quadrangle how the precautions of the college helped him feel more safe as students entered the event. “The fact that we had to show our green passes, and how we had to swipe our ID cards [to get in]. I think that it was very cautious, shout out to OneManhattan,” Dunn said. Despite the guidelines that were in place upon entering the event, students were still lively and excited to be able to attend Manhattan Madness for the first time in a year and a half. Freshman Brady Flood explained his excitement with how the event went. “I loved it. It was so much fun. I was dancing, and my roommates were dancing. I had eye black on, it was great,” Flood said. But, since many restrictions from the previous semesters were lifted during the event, students were excited to state that there was a 2019 feel in
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Draddy Gymnasium. “I mean, we had everyone pop out there, I saw my own RA there. We had everyone there. So I really think that we’re getting back to a point where we can be great,” Dunn said. However, there were still some mixed feelings about the event. “I feel like once COVID is over with no masks, I think it’d be better, but I think just if you include more sports, more people will be involved because there’ll be more people who relate to what’s going on,” Flood said. Brian Dunn also spoke his mind on what he believes could be changed to this event, especially after the absence it had on campus during the pandemic. “I think that maybe making it more friendly for people that want to go if they don’t like sports, maybe making something for the non-sports people, and also getting the crowd more involved,” he said. Student Engagement as well as student government helped set up Manhattan Madness, and students were able to receive free shirts designed by Student Government. While Student Government designed the shirts, Student Engagement was responsible for the distribution and placement of the shirts. Kevin Heredia, a sophomore who works for Student Engagement helped with organizing the tables and shirts for distribution, and states that Student Engagement worked to deliver a meaningful event for students amidst the chaos of the previous semesters. “Everything went well, working with Student Engagement to make events like these possible is definitely something that impacts the school community in a positive way,” Heredia said. At the conclusion of Madness, students were surprised by a guest appearance by Jadakiss, a famous rapper with over 2.8 million followers on Instagram. Jadakiss helped cheer with the Manhattan College Jaspers and wished the best of luck to both basketball teams. __________________________ PICTURES ON PAGE 3
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The Editorial Board
Anna Woods Editor-in-Chief
Opinions & Editorials THE QUADRANGLE 11th Annual Student Engagement Leadership Conference: Chocolate World, Water Park, Mini Golf and “Chills”
Maria Thomas Managing Editor
Jilleen Barrett Managing Editor
Nicole Fitzsimmons News Editor
Kyla Guilfoil Asst. News Editor
Jilleen Barrett Arts & Entertainment Editor
Kelly Cwik Asst. Arts & Entertainment Editor
Christine Nappi Features Editor
Caroline McCarthy Sports Editor
Lauren Raziano Social Media Editor
Kelly Kennedy Asst. Social Media Editor
Brian Asare Photography Editor
Nicole Rodriguez Production Editor
Adrianne Hutto Jocelyn Visnov Asst. Production Editors
Madalyn Johnson Katherine Heneghan Web Editors
Nicholas Gilewicz Faculty Advisor About The Quadrangle A tradition since 1924, The Quadrangle is a news organization run by the students of Manhattan College. We strive to cover news around campus and the greater community, publishing weekly in print and daily online. Our goal is always accuracy, relevancy and professionalism. The opinions expressed in The Quadrangle are those of the individual writer and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Editorial Board, the College or the student body.
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Lauren Raziano Social Media Editor
The 11th Annual Student Engagement Leadership Conference exceeded my wildest dream about chocolate experiences with strangers who became my friends. I found out about the Student Leadership conference during a Student Government meeting when they accidentally announced that the location for the leadership weekend would be Hershey, Pennsylvania. Although I don’t like rollercoasters, I knew going to chocolate world and a free hotel bed and shower was something I had to apply for. I had two other friends apply and get in for the weekend, but one cancelled before because of a family event and the other one couldn’t find anyone to take her shifts at work that weekend. So, I committed to embarking on the student leadership weekend alone. We received an email from Sharon Otega, the Assistant Director of Student Engagement, sent an email Friday morning with the details to meet at the Manhattan College gates at 9am Sunday morning. Personally, the Saturday morning 9am bus ride to Hershey was a bit of a struggle for me. Even though I was wearing my favorite Pitbull Sweatshirt “I FEEL GOOD: TOUR 2021”, I was thinking to myself “Pitbull, I don’t feel so good.” But I had a change in mentally when Mrs. Sharon Oteaga mentioned the free apple juice, coffee, croissant, and donut options available to all of us on the bus. I got up and quickly grabbed a glazed donut and my new friend sitting across from me offered to grab me an apple juice from the front of the bus. We finally got to Hershey Chocolate World around 1pm and had an hour to find lunch. Student Engagement gave us a meal ticket which allowed us to eat for free at the Hershey Station. I chose the chilli bowl option with a side of Hershey’s attempt at Doritos which tasted like salsa, a wonderfully de-
licious chocolate chip cookie, and my favorite drink, Gold Leaf raspberry iced tea. We then broke up into groups and we went on the chocolate tour with singing cows and candy bars that told us how Hershey chocolate is made. Then, I bought my large Hershey kisses and twizzlers for my friends and family and we headed to the hotel. Emma and I shared a room in the lodge, we each got our own bed and we headed to the Hershey Lodge Water Park. The Hershey Lodge has “Sweetest Indoor Pool Complex” with the attractions of the “Twizzlers Twists,” racing water slides and the “Reese’s Water Walk.”There was a 14-and-older hot tub, which was taken over by me and the other college students on the trip because no children were technically allowed in that space. While the guys in the group played water basketball I attempted to climb up onto the floating dolphin (imagine a water mechanical bull) but alas I failed and dived deep into the water. As it approached 6pm, Emma and I went back to the room, took showers, and put on our business casual dresses. We walked as a group to the Italian Buffet Dinner which was chicken parm, pasta, salads, and an array of chocolate desserts. Plus bread with chocolate butter, I would give it a 9/10 recommendation. After our dinner was over Zach Olivier gave a motivational speech where he told us about his journey of baseball, self-discovery, and how to produce “chills”. We all went up to the microphone and told everyone who we are. “I am LAUREN RAZIANO.” Everytime after someone had the confidence to say who they were, Zach said “ I just got CHILLS.” Our night event ended around 9:30pm and Emma and I decided to go back to our room and watch a movie while we gossiped about life on campus. Even though Emma was a year ahead of me, she and I got
along so well and I knew that I had found a new friend. We woke up and packed for the 9am breakfast buffet, which was just as delicious with chocolate pastries. Zach Olivier, Francesco Casale, and Gabriella Castillo gave a final presentation in the morning about building confidence and how to capture an audience. They focused on time management, knowing and using your strengths, and how to achieve your goals. We all talked about something that we learned that weekend. One of the most important things I learned was that to be a leader, you can be the one lone nut and start a revolution. The next important step is to embrace the other followers that come as equals. “The first follower transforms a lone nut into a leader. If the leader is the flint, the first follower is the spark that makes the fire.” After our leadership recap was over, we all sprintied immediately to the mini golf which was located on the hotel campus. We had an hour of putting and bonding over my love of Pitbull, Mr. 305. My very first putt was a hole in one but it wasn’t about competition and winning, it was about making new friendships. No, I lied it was about winning. I won mini golf. The bus ride back took longer than expected due to Sunday night traffic but I didn’t mind because the lunch time pit stop was to WAWA. I got my favorite WAWA ice teas ( Raspberry and green tea) and for fun the thanksgiving sandwich, and Voodoo chips. As we approached the school I was very thankful that I got lucky and decided to apply for this trip and decided to go alone. Weeks later, the guys I went on the trip with still say hi to me while we pass each other on campus and it makes me smile. I hope more students are encouraged to go on this annual trip because it might just be where you meet a new best friend.
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The 11th Annual Student Engagement Leadership Conference took place in Hershey, Pennyslvania. STUDENT ENGAGEMENT / COURTESY
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Manhattan Madness finally made it’s long-awaited return back to Draddy Gymnasium on Oct. 28. BRIAN ASARE / THE QUADRANGLE
Campus Dining Limits Hours at Locke’s Loft __________________________ CONTINUED FROM PAGE 1 on-campus venues, and $25 bonus dollars to use as either Jasper Dollars or Dining Dollars. “I think there is a problem with accessibility to affordable food options on campus. I honestly do not think we are given enough Jasper Dollars and Dining Dollars. I also do not think there are enough places to use this. I do not believe Sip and Chill even opened this semester. Provisions is good, but it is not like you can get a real meal from there. As far as Jasper Dollars, I think there [should be] even more places around campus that should accept them,” Connelly said. Sophomore Nicole Kelly shares a similar opinion to Connelly regarding the hours at Locke’s being different from previous years on campus prior to the outbreak of COVID-19. “I think that the hours should be longer as it is the only place to eat on campus, other than the limited Jasper Dollars and Dining Dollars. I understand that they have to close for cleaning and that there is a limited amount of staff. I have a lot of snacks in
my room and go to the delis a lot so it’s not extremely hard to work around, but I can see it being a problem for other students,” Kelly said. Kelly suggested that there should be more options for students both inside and outside of Locke’s Loft through a larger access to Dining and Jasper Dollars and more to-go options in the dining hall itself. “I think that they could add more Dining and Jasper Dollars, so it is easier for students to access food when Locke’s is closed,” Kelly said. “I also think they should supply a grab-andgo option like they had last year so students can grab food for later since Locke’s closes at eight. I think having a graband-go option would clear up a lot of issues revolving around Locke’s hours. It’s a solution that would not cause a whole ‘operation’: more staff, longer hours or creating another dining area.” Despite the challenges of Locke’s Loft during the pandemic, students and faculty are trying to address the ways the dining hall can accommodate all students to ensure members of the community have access to meals everyday.
The dining hall is open Monday through Friday from 7:15 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and weekends from 11:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. @MC_DINING / COURTESY
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Meet One of MC’s Best, Pete Janny Mack Olmsted Staff Writer
Meet Peter Janny, one of Manhattan College’s key members of The Quadrangle. Janny has been a very important contributor to the Quad and is now in his senior year. Coming from eastern Connecticut, Janny has been part of The Quadrangle since his freshman year. During the 2018 September club fair, Janny checked out The Quadrangle and described the group as “inviting and welcoming.” After the fair, Janny joined and began his Quadrangle journey. His favorite section was sports as it fascinated him and gave him many opportunities. He quickly became a staff writer, and by December 2018 he got the position of assistant sports editor. For a year Janny served under former editor Garrett Keidel, and when there was a need for someone to fill Keidel’s position, Janny was able to step up to the plate. In December 2019 he became the Quadrangle’s sports editor and the managing editor until December 2020, when he moved on to serving solely as the sports editor. Though he was the sports editor, Janny would continue to write for the different sections of The Quadrangle. His favorite part about The Quadrangle was being able to cover different topics. “I think there’s a lot of great
things about the Quad,” Janny said. “I think the fact that it challenges you to go outside your comfort zone, to report on topics that aren’t always comfortable to talk about. I think the best part of it is it not only develops your writing skills, but it develops your interpersonal skills.” Although Janny is not studying journalism alone, he still finds work in this field to be valuable and applicable to other types of work. “I think the lessons learned from journalism are very applicable to other work,” Janny said. “[Journalism] really teaches you the value of hard work, the value of integrity, the value of accuracy, and those things can’t really be teached anywhere better than by experiencing journalism.” Janny also enjoys working and meeting with new people from different areas of campus. “I was able to meet a lot of different people of different walks of life throughout the process,” Janny said. “I think the reason why I did that was because I didn’t want to just settle for the basic stories and I wanted to go find stuff that would be diamonds in the rough.” Janny was more than just a member of the Quadrangle — he was also involved in other extra curricular activities. Janny was Vice President of Communication for the student government his junior year as well as a member of the Ethics Bowl.
Over the years Janny gained many great memories and experiences that would stick with him forever. “My favorite memory I think the one that stands out, probably the 2019 MAAC tournament, I went with John Jackson, who at that point was a senior writer months away from graduation and he took me under his wing,” Janny said. “He was a great mentor. It was really special getting the whole experience of working in the press setting. It was cool being on the inside of an important event that I was reading about regularly in the newspaper.” Now Janny is working for student athletics and is getting experience working for the college administration while also running their social media. After graduation Janny hopes to get a career through his analytics degree and hopes to be ending up working in the private sector. Janny’s advice as a senior to underclassmen is to get involved on campus and join clubs, because doing so can make all the difference. “I think you get the most out of your college experience based on what you get involved in so clubs, the people you hang out with just meeting new people,” Janny said. “Befriend people in the administration, befriending professors. I think that’s where you’re going to find the greatest growth and I think you’re gonna be surprised if you do that. How much you could progress over your
bringing your authentic self to work which I thought was really interesting and empowering,” Bernhardt said. President of SWE, Ashley Hickey, a senior civil engineering major described that there were presentations about “confidence in confrontation and imposter syndrome due to COVID.” Ciara Coyle, a senior chemical engineering major, told the Quadrangle via email that her favorite speaker at the event was “Madam Walker: Woman of Color & Entrepreneur.” “As a chemical engineering student pursuing a career in cosmetics, I loved hearing how Madam Walker shaped today’s cosmetic industry as she produced haircare products for women of color,” Coyle wrote. Another significant part of the conference was the two day career fair. There were onsite interviews and major corporations such as Johnson & Johnson, Tesla and Apple. Like the many STEM fields, Manhattan College has a pre-
dominantly male engineering program. Therefore, the women of SWE find it to be an important organization that prepares them to be successful engineers for the rest of their careers. “One of the major issues with male-dominated fields is that women get into it and then get burnt out,” Hickey said. “So, their retention in male-dominated industries for women is pretty low.” It’s only been about 50 years since the first female engineering student graduated from the School of Engineering here at Manhattan College. Jessica Wilson, Ph.D., the faculty advisor of SWE, describes the trends of women’s involvement in engineering. “In the 1990s only about 20 percent of the engineering class were women. Fast forward to today, we’re only at 24 percent and if you look ahead into the distribution of women and men who are in the field the number is much lower. We go from 24% to 15%, somewhere
Janny, pictured above with the New York Yankees Assistant Manager, served as Sports Editor for the Quadrangle.
PETE JANNY / THE QUADRANGLE career at Manhattan College.” Janny has accomplished so much over his years at Manhattan College and explained what helped him achieve so much over the years attending. “So family, family means a lot, whenever I get the time to go home and spend time with my family is definitely refresh-
ing and I think it kind of motivates me to make them proud and then also make make my friends proud and people that I know so going to Manhattan College has been really good for that,” Janny said. “If I would have gone somewhere else, I don’t know if I would have had the same experience.”
along the way women are leaving engineering and we need to figure out why,” Wilson said. Even in the school of engineering at Manhattan College, gender is an inescapable obstacle women face. SWE provides a space for women to have difficult conversations. “It’s funny because the minute you join SWE and you talk about things like ‘Oh I had this lab group and it was all guys and I didn’t have the best experience,’ or like ‘Oh I experienced sexism with my physics professor,’ it’s kind of unfortunately a universal experience,” Bernhardt said. Not only do the students feel the gender separation, but the women engineering faculty as well. “Coming to Manhattan College, being just one of very few female engineering faculty, we are still the minority, but it’s changing,” said Wilson, who was hired by MC eight years ago. “When I was hired, there was only, I think, two female tenured engineering faculty.”
According to Coyle, it is important for MC to have a student chapter of SWE who can connect with other students and faculty. “Having a supportive group of women with similar career goals to support and motivate you through such a difficult academic program and internship/job search process is invaluable,” Coyle wrote. SWE is so much more than just a club or program to the girls involved. “It really makes me feel like I am a part of something,” Hickey said. Bernhardt agrees with Coyle and Hickey and describes how SWE is impactful for its mentoring opportunities. “It’s so important that you don’t know how to describe it, and I tell people joining SWE is inadvertently joining a mentorship program,” Bernhardt said. For potential members to join SWE, they can sign up at the club fair, email SWE at swe@manhattan.edu, and follow the instagram @swemanhattan for active updates.
Society of Women Engineers Aspire to Inspire Angelica Niedermeyer & Rebecca Kranich Contributors
From Oct. 21-23, Manhattan College’s chapter of Society of Women Engineers (SWE) traveled to Indianapolis to attend their annual national convention. This year, the theme of the SWE event was “Aspire to Inspire” as many guest lecturers and keynote speakers shared their experiences as women in engineering. MC’s chapter of SWE was able to bring 15 women on this trip, the highest number they’ve ever had. According to many of the MC attendees the keynote speakers were their favorite part of the conference. Francesca Bernhardt, a junior mechanical engineer with a minor in ethics, said her favorite part of the conference was the first keynote speaker Stephanie C. Hill. “Her talk was on infusing purpose into your life and
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PEK Fosters Holistic Health, Wellness and Promotes Community Service Lauren Raziano Social Media Editor
As Kinesiology’s Department Honor Society, Phi Epsilon Kappa (PEK) is ready to promote holistic health and wellness on campus. PEK is the national professional fraternity for physical education and related career fields at Manhattan College. PEK was founded in 1913 as a male-dominated establishment then became more inclusive in the 1970s when more women started to join. Manhattan College received its charter for the Alpha Eta chapter in 1943. The current PEK cabinet consists of president Peter Calicchia, a senior exercise science major, vice president Zachary Olivan, secretary Domenick Boccia and sergeant of arms Ryan Tierney. The requirements to be inducted into the honors society is that students must have completed at least two semesters and hold a GPA minimum of 3.2. One of the contributing characteristics PEK looks for in new members is motivated individuals. “One of the biggest things for PEK in terms of the initiative is to seek out student leaders in the health field,” Olivan said. “So, if you’re a student leader and you show initiative through leadership and service to the community, then you know things like GPA can be worked around.” PEK is heavily focused on service events because health careers are focused on service to others. “As PEK, we’re in exercise careers and our health professionals are physical therapy, occupational therapy, dance
recreation, physical education, those are mainly service and selfless serving other people,” Calicchia said. “It’s a people’s profession.” According to manhattan. edu, “As part of [PEK’s] community service, the Alpha Eta chapter sponsors the annual Manhattan College Games. These games provide athletic competition to children with disabilities not eligible for the Special Olympics.” They are hoping to hold this event sometime this year but it may be restricted due to COVID precautions. One of the events they held this past semester was “Tattoos of Remembrance” with the mission Answer the Call for the 20th anniversary of 9/11. “Answer the Call is to help widowed family members of active service who are affected and 9/11,” Boccia said. “So if you had lost your husband or wife, spouse or family member in 9/11 this foundation raises money and helps support your family after.” For Answer the Call, they offered 0.5 points to those in PEK who took a photo and posted it tagging PEK to raise awareness for the mission and for remembrance for those who were lost. “We set up a table to hand out these tattoos, which said ‘Answer the Call’ and I believe we signed two cards to bring down to the fire departments nearby to show our remembrance and our acknowledgement of their services,” Tierney said. PEK also held events during Mental Health Awareness Week and for Suicide Prevention Week. “We also did a suicide prevention web, it’s still hanging outside and it’s the concept of
The entire PEK Cabinet was inducted into the Epsilon Sigma Pi Honor’s Society. @MANHATTAN_PEK / COURTESY
PEK was founded in 1913 as a male-dominated establishment then became more inclusive in the 1970s when more women started to join.
@MANHATTAN_PEK / COURTESY you sign it and write a inspiring message,” Calicchia said. “It is to post on social media and show support because of the mental and visual aspect as an overall holistic approach to mental health.” Members of PEK also participated in the Zero Prostate Cancer Walk and the Byrnes Memorial Walk. “We’re kinesiology so we’re more involved in Exercise and Health so walks are a good way to get the group together, build some kinesiology family dynamics and also keep up active,” Calicchia said. “We raised over $100 for the Zero Prostate Cancer Walk for prostate research.” These PEK events are meant as a way to encourage members to be inherently driven to be active in community events. “We want to instill in people at the undergraduate career that service is important and you don’t want to be forced, you want to be intrinsically motivated,” Calicchia said. “People are going to come and do these events because they want to do it and not because they have to do it as a point value.” said Calicchia. Calicchia wants members to be involved in other extracurricular activities that promote holistic health and wellness. “Everything goes back to the service aspect, you’ve dedicated some of your time to help other people that are exercise inclined and you help guide them with social support and motivation and instruction and feedback, to get them to achieve their goals and be there in any way you can,” Calicchia said.
PEK is also collaborating with Jasperfit Mentors and the new club “Exercise Is Medicine On Campus” (EIM-OC) to promote physical activity on campus. They have created a schedule of the various events such as walking groups, yoga and mixed martial arts that can be found on Instagram. “I think it’s important also to note that the majority of PEK members are also Jasper Fit mentors,” Tierney said. “So not only are we promoting activity, all of our members are also helping out other students as a mentor. I think it’s important to show that the kinesiology department is very close, and we do everything together, and it’s very, very heartwarming to me.” Tierney said. Two alums, Will Stallings and Elizabeth McCabe, gave talks to current PEK members. McCabe is a current student in Iowa University’s Masters program for athletic training, working as an ATC in an Indianapolis Firehouse. Stalling was a previous Manhattan Track and field athlete, a former Exercise science major, and is currently studying Podiatric Medicine at New York College of Podiatric Medicine (NYCPM). “We have had two information sessions on graduate schools,” Boccia said. “This is offered to everyone, so anyone can come to listen to students who have gone to grad school, hear their story and hopefully it gives them some insight on what works. We help out people in the pre-health profession find their careers.” Olivan says having alumni present to current students is a win-win situation. “By inviting these alumni
and we not only give the students an opportunity to learn more about the career field but it also gives the alumni to share and give a little background on their own personal experience and and help with their presentation and public speaking skills so it’s a win win situation for both our current students and those who graduated,” Olivan said. While PEK is heavily connected to their graduated alumni from Manhattan College, they currently don’t have national involvement with other kinesiology health departments. This is something that the executive board is looking forward to fostering but they are limited due to lack of funding. “That would be something to look forward to in coming years and to potentially plan,” Olivan said. “I know one thing that we struggle with is that we don’t have a budget, so it’s hard to schedule and plan those national events without having funding, which is something that we have been working out for years now are trying to at least.” Finally, as the honors kinesiology honors society, PEK strives to have long-lasting members who strive to promote positivity into their community. “We’re trying to instill that idea that service is a part of our profession, of who we are as individuals,” Calicchia said. “I think that’s something we like to push forward in PEK, that you do it because you want to serve the people you want [them to] smile, you want to make an impact in their life.”
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Jasper Jams: The Official SweaterWeather Certified Playlist for Fall JASPER JAMS Kyla Guilfoil
has the perfect pleading love songs to revive your spirits on a chilly day.
The weather has finally started to match the changing colors of the leaves around campus. After a rollercoaster of weather throughout the summer and early fall, it seems that sweater weather is finally here to stay. And what better way to celebrate the changing of seasons than by checking out a playlist that’s perfect for your newly scenic walk to class, an afternoon cup of coffee or lighting that first pumpkin spice candle of the year. For me, the chill that comes with the oranges, yellows and reds of autumn begs for a cozy, acoustic backtrack. These songs make me want nothing more than a kitchen that smells like pumpkin bread and just one more candle to add to my collection. Scan the QR code to see what songs have me spiraling into full-on sweater weather.
Heteroverheels - Dan & Drum Now we’ll slow it down with Heteroverheels, a single released by Dan & Drum in 2017. Dan & Drum is an LA band led by Dan Checkers. Their sophomore album, “Heavy Metal,” is set to release in 2022. Heteroverheels is narrated by Checker’s light, airy lyricsm and backed by a hushed weaving of surrounding vocals and guitar. This song is haunting and immersing, just like this autumn air.
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An Ode to a Conversation Stuck in Your Throat Del Water Gap This Del Water Gap song is a go-to for my walk home. A rhythmic guitar bleeds into a catchy beat that sustains Joffe’s sweet-toned croning. S. Holden Joffe released this song on his self-titled sophomore album in 2021. As Del Water Gap, Joffe
Fallingwater - Maggie Rogers There is really no situation for which a Maggie Rogers song can’t apply. This particular one was a breakout hit from her debut album, “Heard It In A Past Life.” Rogers is a NYU graduate whose single “Alaska” led to her contract with Capitol Records, who released the album. “Falling Water” is a perfect example of Roger’s strong, yet delicate voice, which carries over a naturally-feeling beat that textualizes the song. Personally, I’d say this song is spot-on for a warm, end of day shower during these cold months. Chanel Orange in my Liv-
ing Room - Charlie Burg This one’s for my lovers out there. Grab that special someone and let Charlie Burg’s incredible rhythm dance you around the room. This song is a 2020 single, released after his two albums that dropped in 2015 and 2017, respectively. Burg is a 25-year-old singer-songwriter from Detroit who began releasing music in 2015. I love Burg for his incredibly smooth voice and hint-of-R&B alternative sound that is impossible to ignore. Amoeba - Clairo “Amoeba” comes from Clairo’s sophomore album, “Sling,” which was released earlier this year. Amoeba blends perfectly after Burg’s, carrying that funky rhythm into a softer, yet more upbeat, song. Clairo’s voice is as gentle as finally climbing into bed during those early evening sunset hours. Don’t get too comfortable though, the song’s jazz inspired backing will get you up and dancing soon enough. Something, In General Ritt Momney This song brings back an articulate guitar picking that introduces Ritt Momney’s lyrics to “Something, In General.” This song comes from his debut album, “Her and All My Friends,” which was released in 2019. Formerly Jack Rut-
ter, Ritt Momney rose to fame in 2020 following his cover of Corrine Rae Bailey’s “Put Your Records On” went viral on TikTok. Today, Ritt Momney boasts 5.4 million monthly Spotify listeners. Stream this song for an alluring indie lullaby. Stay Down - Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers & Lucy Dacus The next song comes from the iconic 2018 EP “boygenius” recorded by Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus. “Stay Down” features the three womens’ captivating vocals, as well as a crescendoing guitar and drum combination that gently breaks off following the chorus before building again. Beautiful string accents compliment the instrumentals, again building and complimenting the vocals. “Stay Down” is often in my ears on a train ride home, and is always able to awaken any chilled bones. Idea of Her - Cavetown Who are we without a fantasy? We’ve all got one, don’t we? Cavetown confronts this bittersweet crush stage that many find themselves in as the weather gets colder and true colors start to unravel like the leaf stems from their once clinging tree. Robin Daniel Skinner, professionally called Cavetown, released this track on his most recent album,
“Man’s Best Friend.” This bittersweet melody links perfectly with this approaching sweater weather season, and the inevitable complexities of fresh attraction. Love Song for the Haters - Fleece Fleece, a Montreal based band, released “Love Song for the Haters” on their third and most recent album, “Stunning and Atrocious.” This track has a classic psychedelic rock feeling, with lead vocalist, Matthew Rogers, carrying the song with his nasally yet melodic tone. Sweet undertones flush over the vocals, ebbing just perfectly to feature the lyrics while still filling out the sound. This track is almost as delicious as my warm cup of tea. The Subway Song Delacey Our closing song is by Delacey, known off-stage as Brittany Marie Amaradio, who is an American singer-songwriter. This track comes from her debut album, “Black Coffee,” and holds a harmony that carries us effortlessly to the end of our playlist. Delacey’s vocals ride over quiet piano chords and a gentle rhythmic percussion. The beat grows stronger as the song progresses, and we feel both ourselves, and Delacey’s subway home, reach a destination.
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Toted By Juliana: Practical and Creative Kelly Cwik & Megan LaCreta
Asst. A&E Editor & Asst. Features Editor Senior marketing major Juliana Tronconi started her own small business on Instagram @totedbyjuliana selling hand-painted tote bags. Tronconi announced her business in a post early in October, and since then, has found success sharing her art with the Manhattan College community and beyond. Tronconi was inspired to start her business by her lifelong love of art. She considered art school but chose to attend Manhattan College instead. Tronconi dove back into art over quarantine, and soon decided to turn her hobby into a business. “I always make stuff for me and my friends, and the tote bags everyone really seemed to love,” said Tronconi. “So I started making a ton … then I decided to make Instagram and people have been loving them, which I genuinely didn’t think at all. I was like, if I get two people to buy them I’d be happy but people really liked them, which is exciting.” Tronconi hoped her tote bags would be an affordable, useful and unique way for people to sport her art. “I use [a tote bag] every day, especially living off campus. Anytime I go anywhere I use a tote bag, and I want to make something that isn’t just a painting, like something that people can actually use and take around with them that showcases art in something that you don’t really see everyday,” said Tronconi. “Because a lot of reusable tote bags come from stores or clothing brands and they’re simple and they’re cute and they get the job done, but I’m like why not make it fun and in color.” While Tranconi’s artistic talent takes center stage, she depends on her business skills behind-the-scenes. As a marketing major, Tronconi has en-
joyed the creative freedom of having her own business. “I love that it allows me to apply marketing, my major, like I feel like I’m actually doing something with it,” said Tronconi. “It allows me to apply it to whatever I want to do, like with the Instagram, and I love that. I’ve always said since I was little … I want to be the boss, I want to be able to control it and I think that’s the best part.” All of Tronconi’s bags are hand painted and one of a kind, but Tranconi can repaint her designs and even add customizations. She also works with customers to make their own personalized bags. Tranconi has also started selling her tote bags at Turn Style, MC’s new on-campus thrift store. The store reached out to her over social media, and Tranconi now makes bags specifically to sell there. Tranconi’s bags are one example of how Turn Style is hoping to support student creators and entrepreneurs, explained senior political science and international studies major and Turn Style founder Liola Moody. “We have a consistent student feature corner at the store, so basically any student on campus who has a niche, whether that’s painting, making something, jewelry, clothing, they can have an opportunity if they DM us … to have their stuff featured in the store and 100% of profits go back to them.” Sophomore business student and Turn Style worker Cece Bryant described the mutually beneficial relationship between Tranconi and the thrift store. “[Tranconi] helps us represent what Turn Style is and… we help giving each other recognition because since it’s her designs on the bags, when we post them everyone else will see what she’s doing… and at the same time we can also profit from it by making merch and have other people know more about the store as well,” Bryant said.
Tronconi started her own small business on Instagram @totedbyjuliana selling hand-painted tote bags.
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Tranconi has also started selling her tote bags at Turn Style, MC’s new on-campus thrift store.
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Manhattan College Opens Its Doors to Unvaccinated Coach Caroline McCarthy & Maddie Mulkigian Sports Editor & Contributor
Manhattan College volleyball coach Lora Sarich Egbert spends her mornings standing on the outskirts of Draddy Gymnasium, just beyond the entrance. From her perch, she shouts instructions through the doorway while her team practices on the court. Egbert, the team’s only coach, isn’t allowed to step foot inside. She is unvaccinated, four players said, prohibiting her from entering the building. Some of the players would only speak under the condition of anonymity because they feared retribution. New York City Executive Order 225 requires all people partaking in “indoor entertainment, recreation, dining and fitness” to be vaccinated against COVID-19. This order went into effect on Aug. 16, 2021, just 11 days before Manhattan’s first match of the season. Though Manhattan College requires all students, faculty and staff to be fully vaccinated in order to be on campus, Egbert has been granted an exemption. Still, she is not allowed into the gymnasium. When asked about her vaccine status, Egbert wrote in an email, “My health information is private, and I am in compliance with Manhattan’s vaccine policy.” The New York City order supersedes Manhattan’s regulations. On Sept. 20th, Manhattan athletic director Marianne
Reilly met with the players via Google Meet and informed them that Egbert was unvaccinated and wouldn’t be allowed to coach home games, senior setter Erin Prevo said. The Jaspers didn’t play their first home match until Oct. 2. It has resulted in an increasing level of discord for the Jaspers. On the court, Manhattan is 2-14, with players saying the team is struggling to finish games and make the needed adjustments to beat other MAAC teams. Both wins came at Draddy, without Egbert on the sideline. Off the court, meanwhile, the players are growing increasingly frustrated that they are playing for a team that effectively doesn’t have a fulltime coach. “It’s always frustrating when there’s lots of change during your season, but it gets especially frustrating when the team is getting inconsistent feedback,” Prevo said. “ Coach’s vaccination status has greatly affected our season and our team dynamic. There were three games in our preseason that had to be canceled/rescheduled, and we were completely left in the dark as to why.” The Jaspers aren’t the only New York City team facing this issue. Kyrie Irving, the star point guard for the Brooklyn Nets, is barred from his home court at the Barclays Center because of his choice to remain unvaccinated. Nets general manager Sean Marks has said that Irving will not be permitted to join the team at any prac-
tices or games until he receives at least one dose of the vaccine. Egbert’s vaccine status went largely unnoticed early in the Jaspers’ season because of the flood damage surrounding the court. While the gym was being evaluated the team often practiced outdoors on or near Manhattan’s campus. Other times, Manhattan would travel to the House of Sports in Ardsley, N.Y., where New York City’s vaccine mandate didn’t apply and Egbert was permitted indoors. According to Reilly, as the vaccine order came into effect, Fordham and St. Francis canceled their scheduled home volleyball games against the Jaspers. In an email, Manhattan athletic director Marianne Reilly declined to discuss Egbert’s vaccine status, writing, “We do not publicly speak on personnel matters due to the privacy of the employee.” “Manhattan College recognizes the medical and religious exemptions that have been given to any of its employees,” Reilly wrote, “The NYC Executive Order made it clear that those who were not vaccinated (even if you had an exemption or not) were not to be in certain locations, one of which was in our gymnasium.” Earlier this month, Washington State fired its football coach, Nick Rolovich, because he chose to remain unvaccinated and had his request for a religious exemption from the school denied. Reilly said that while she is “aware that other colleges and universities have taken steps
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regarding non-vaccinated employees,” Egbert is still officially Manhattan’s coach. “Coach Egbert’s employment is not for public discussion,” Reilly wrote. Players say Egbert’s vaccine status has led to challenges during the season, with inconsistent practice accommodations making it hard to train for volleyball at the Division I level. “It’s very difficult for her to be coaching from the open doors into the patio,” one player said. “She’s not even in the gym. It’s hard to create a high-intensity practice when you’re not even in the gym.” Two substitute coaches have been recruited to oversee Manhattan’s home matches, while Egbert continues to coach on the road. Peter Volkert, a former Manhattan College volleyball coach, and Mauro Miletic have volunteered their time to the team with no compensation from the athletic department so that the team may continue competing at home. At the Jaspers’ most recent victory, a home match against Saint Peter’s, Egbert remained far from the action in a nearby classroom on Manhattan’s campus. After a 30-minute meet-andgreet and a one-hour practice, Volkert led the team to win its first match of the season against the MAAC’s second-best team, Niagara. The Jaspers had lost their first seven matches up to that point. Another player said Volkert’s attitude and encouragement led the team to its win.
“He was very positive and focused on winning, which has never really been a goal of ours,” another player said. “It sounds funny, but our team goal is always to have fun, but he came in and made it very winning-oriented and our first win was with a different coach, after just meeting him.” The Jaspers have dealt with problems that go beyond Egbert’s vaccine status. Within one seven-day period in mid-September, three players sustained injuries, two being serious knee injuries and one being a compound fracture of the hand. Earlier in the season, another devastating knee injury occurred. Multiple players said that without practice on a consistent surface, their bodies were not adequately prepared for the rigors of their Division I volleyball schedule. Lisa Toscano, a kinesiology professor at Manhattan College, said that learning how to fall on a consistent surface and preparing your body to endure specific forces will help protect against injury during competition. “You have to have strength training,” Toscano said. “You have to have a pre-season, in-season and post-season if you’re going to play at [the Division I] level.” Ultimately, the team is left with several players on the Jaspers’ 15-woman roster being unavailable for games — and their coach barred from entering the gym at all. Maeve McNally-Cullum contributed reporting.
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Major Changes in the Athletic Department after Post-Quarantine Turnover Jilleen Barrett & Karen Flores
A&E Editor & Staff Writer The Athletic Department at Manhattan has experienced major changes between July and the end of October, with 18 members of its staff leaving for various reasons. Marianne Reilly, the director of intercollegiate athletics at the college, believes COVID and other issues in national athletics pushed people to pursue new opportunities. One of these people was Douglas Straley, the associate athletic director for sports medicine and athletic performance. Straley spent 19 years at Manhattan before taking a similar position at Columbia University earlier this year. According to Reilly, Straley was offered the position and took it because of the opportunities he would have at the ivy league school; Straley declined to comment. Straley has been replaced by Thomas O’Brien, the new assistant athletic director for sports medicine and head athletic trainer. O’Brien previously served as the head athletic trainer at Fordham University and was working with the USA men’s basketball team when he was referred to his position for the Jaspers. O’Brien said the biggest difference between his roles at Fordham and Manhattan is the number of students he works with. “My responsibilities in this role is to oversee the healthcare of about 350 student-athletes across all my teams ... That’s probably where the big-
gest jump for me is right now, is going from just overseeing my team and a couple of managers to overseeing my staff plus keeping tabs on every team, injuries and recoveries from possible surgeries, injuries, etc.,” O’Brien said. “[I am overseeing] 350 student-athletes rather than the 25 I was overseeing at Fordham ... but it’s something that you’re doing the same and you understand that you’re just overseeing and trusting your staff to do what they got to do.” As far as guidance from the previous staff on how to build this trust, O’Brien declined to comment any further, but he is looking forward to building relationships with the hundreds of athletes he is overseeing. “I’m looking forward to building more relationships with student-athletes,” O’Brien said. “Of course, as people are getting to know me and having conversations, you got to build a bond with them and [meet] new people every day.”. Two other members of the athletic department left to work at Columbia University. In addition, Kathryn Mirance, Kevin Ross, Tony Vecchione and Andrew Santos left Manhattan to pursue other opportunities as well, Mirance being the only one to comment on her departure. Mirance told the Quad her decision to leave was due to a need to work closer to where she is raising her children. She is now working in the athletics department at West Point University. Reilly mentioned heated debates in the NCAA over topics such as whether or not student-athletes should be paid caused major changes at the national level of athletics.
She sees these issues trickling down to smaller schools like Manhattan and pointed out that this may have made athletic staff across the country leave their jobs, especially if they were eligible for retirement. “I really think people felt after COVID, it was a moment of reflection and in the world of athletics, there were so many people that retired,” Reilly said. “Not just because of COVID but because of the platform athletics is working off of with the NCAA now and the new council coming through, you know, Division I may not look like Division I five years from now, we don’t know what that’s gonna look like ... so there’s so many changing things.” Cat Clifford, the interim head coach for the softball team, acknowledges these problems but feels they are able to work through them. “I think that there’s been a lot of stuff going on, a lot of changes when there haven’t been people in positions when we’re in the interim with those,” Clifford said. “It’s been a little bit clunky, but I think everyone’s done a good job of stepping into positions that are maybe outside of their comfort zone just to make sure we get stuff done. So as a staff together I think we’ve been really good at keeping things cohesive and being able to continue on even if we’re between positions.” Reilly and Clifford gave similar comments to The Quadrangle regarding what they feel is the most important issue at hand: the health and well-being of the student-athletes. “We’re here because of them,” Clifford said. “Me and
Cat Clifford (left) was recently promoted to interim head coach of the softball team after they won the MAAC last spring. Christina Katsamouri ‘23 (right) of the women’s basketball team witnessed the department struggling to support her team while they worked out the kinks in communication throughout the athletic department. GO JASPERS / COURTESY
Marianne Reilly, director of athletics, says she and the rest of the department “use our special gifts to be able to create leaders for tomorrow and to be great alumni going forward.” MANHATTAN.EDU / COURTESY my staff are here for our kids. That’s what we’re here for. We love being with them.” “We are all advocates up here … we look to each other, it’s kind of like that ‘[it] takes the village’ approach. It takes a village to help all of our student-athletes we have over you know, we have 350 student-athletes. No one person can do it by themselves,” Reilly said. While the new and promoted faculty members work towards finding a steady pace to work with, student-athletes hope to be able to feel heard as well as be able to get help and aid when adapting and transitioning into new routines and new coaching styles. Christina Katsamouri, a communications major with a concentration in journalism and member of the women’s basketball team at Manhattan shares her experience in regards to the vast changes within this time period. She talked about how she felt there was a lot of confusion and unpredictability in terms of schedules with her trainers when the changes began to occur. “At the beginning it was hard, we were in a scrambling situation where we were just trying to figure out who was going to be our trainer, where we should go for treatment, who we should call. It was like that for about one and a half months,” Katsamouri said. She stated that there was a point where there was only a single trainer for the entire athletic department when there
is usually one trainer for each team. This was something that the athletes had to endure for about two months. Katsamouri also told the Quadrangle that having only a single trainer for all of the athletic teams was the biggest struggle as it made it a more difficult and time-consuming process of communicating between departments. Athletes who needed treatment had to talk to their coaches beforehand to make sure there were time slots for treatment scheduling, adding a middle man to the situation. Katsamouri said that during this time period, despite all that was occuring, she felt that she was being heard when she needed clarification or some guidance from the administration. She said that as long as they communicated with them, the administration would always try to bring a solution to the problem. “But then, thankfully, they brought in new people and now we kind of like starting over again,” Katsamouri said. “We do have our own trainer again, and it’s more organized, it just took them a while until they figured out the situation.” Katsamouri feels that the turmoil that occurred during the changes is now over as she begins to regain her balance with the help of her new trainor and the rest of the faculty. “[The Athletic Department] was trying to find the best people possible for the positions,” Katsamouri said.
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e return of Manhattan Madness. The Pep Band, Jasper Dancers, and Cheeroming Mens and Womens Basketball season. Pictures taken by Brian Asare.
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Men’s Soccer Sends Off Seniors Thomas Hitchins and Simon Busch Isaiah Rosario Staff Writer
Oct. 23rd was a picture-perfect day for the Manhattan College men’s soccer program. Before Manhattan played St. Peter’s University on the beautiful fall afternoon, seniors Thomas Hitchins and Simon Busch were honored for their careers here at Manhattan. The Jaspers stood victorious against Saint Peter’s with a score of 3-0, with goals by Johan Velez (3), Dorian Bounab (1) and Oswald Annang (5). As of Oct. 27, Hitchins has logged over 1,000 minutes playing in 12 of the 13 games of his final season, while Busch logged just under. Senior day was full of emotion for both Hitchins and Busch. “I think for both of us, it was a very special moment because we know the season and the college career is about to end,” Busch said.“We don’t know if it’s gonna continue or not. But it’s definitely a special moment to wrap up these four years.” “It was a great feeling at
the ceremony for us two, with all the guys that we’ve played alongside for four years … we’re not done yet but it was a good final home Saturday especially getting a good solid win and hopefully kicking off our season from here,” Hitchins said. Coach Jorden Scott also spoke to us about how he was feeling at the ceremony. “Every Senior Day brings emotions...your time with these players goes so quick. You don’t realize it. And I’m always filled with pride on a day like that...it’s just their recognition for all the work that they did.” Both Hitchins and Busch have been a part of the Manhattan College soccer program since 2018. Scott spoke on their growth as players since freshman year. “[Hitchins] has grown tactically to a point where he’s able to organize everybody around them,” Scott said. “And I think that’s one of the things I’m happy about for him. He’s always had a skill set. It’s phenomenal. But his ability to organize that sense of tactical awareness and standing is through the roof for assignment. He’s sort of grown
Senior Thomas Hitchin poses for his roster photo.
GO JASPERS / COURTESY in his position.” “For Simon, he’s sort of grown in his position. He came in as a center back. His demand of himself to get higher up the field and to contribute more, and to give more to the frontline and to attack with more purpose is certainly something
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he’s worked on … he’s grown into being a player that can play multiple positions, and it can be an impact going forward,” Scott said. Coach Scott is often spoken highly of by his players and is seen as a rallying force yet calming for the team. “I definitely say [Coach Scott] is more of the calming influence in our team. There are different characters within the team that bring energy and passion. And of course, he will say that whenever it needs to, but like it’s more in there to mediate the team and make sure we’re on the same page and they’ll always help us out with anything that we need. He’s not just there to come to us and kind of help settle down for the future as well,” said Hitchins. Busch and Hitchins both had a final message for incoming freshmen for the soccer program. “If I would speak to incoming freshmen right now, I would tell them to just look for to the future at whatever is coming because there will be a few moments within a semester where you actually think I don’t
want to do it anymore. But you have to get through it in order to have these moments where you can actually celebrate the achievements,” Busch said. “I would probably tell them to enjoy it, enjoy every moment of it. You build relationships with your teammates, get to know them. They’ll be with you for the next four years and probably continue being friends with them or for your future as well. So definitely come and enjoy it, and work hard. Don’t take things personally. Just enjoy it and get after it,” Hitchins said. Scott also gave one final message to the boys before they graduate from the program. “Remember to give back... they gave a lot to the program during their time here, no doubt. But they also know that there was a lot of giving to them from our school, from our program...scholarship time, energy, patience, and commitment,” Scott said. “[For] the two of them is to remember that we here provided an opportunity for the next guy to have the same experience.”
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