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1- On 12 July 1947, n c 11 war: Y-1: do &#39;=t tlzr, newsnener {he "Idr ho Lsilv SIT !-<=="-&#39;1n" oi , li ho "h~"
pnper ,
knew
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r.-as lnterviewccl in regard tohow wellhe
of
Ioise,
any ."bF li _&#39;!"» movie l&#39;1t 1_"
Tdnluo, and as to the
credibility
of
The Ourpose 0!" this
interview
I55 an
attev--atto verify Str92t1&#39;r:0ntS nodel>y 0n
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to vrricms notional
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26 June1947,
news services to the ef&#39;|"ect. that he,
objects f"l}rin_g in the nir above the "ascede Hountain Range ofWe -.11in;&#39;_ton. 1&#39;hc soobjects were subsequently referred toasflying 4 saucers
or
flying
disks
and will
in this report. $+.sted
here-in af5er
be referred
th t he hadI-:no1-in
to
as
such
rm-
quite n period of ti--we, hm/in{&#39; had r &#39;1ntin&#39;n&#39;: with on various occnsinrs, due to the fact that both he and were or vste Fliers and frequently got together to talk shop-
stetnd that as fer tr&#39;.1"&#39;*n &#39;¢."~ry seriously Arnold hvd seem the
rr. he was r -on:-horned anyt 1inr_ nnd that 11&#39;! rforerertloned llring
after _.-@;~.=r+.¢d Q Iu&#39;_&#39; <
Office of of
said could be
scizuall
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believed that Hr. stated that
dlsks.
Eevini seen the flying: dfsks, that the editor
of -".3"pr -_*92<2r Md Hs5&#39;="r.ed P-in, the assignment of taking the nirjslr-w oelon,",ir1{; tr the nz-::s;-:1; ;r aw: 93-h:=u$tinf_ P11 efforts to prove " or disjrove th probrbilitf of flying disks hevinr been seen in the
!:o1 t92 w.--:»r1I". area. The results
of 1.11srssi,"_n" .e:&#39;:t to _and
he sn »s¢quen&#39;1&#39;.l}.&#39; sm" s put forth "1 a swornstatementsigned t
what
nttr 0. .- to r! this report as &#39;lxhibit 5.
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logged P300 hours of 1"1§.&#39;inI"_ tinr in various types of airplanes uvtoP"I including; -u1ti vii!--2 erYrcr"Ft. &#39;mrir1;i hart ofthe war years,&
,&#39;,:_~|
the
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t 1=== =rs-an-"ll 0-i w!;r+. he stntes that
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em 92.&#39;-" &#39;.&#39;hm-". u&#39;l to be very str0T ."_1j convirlce-&#39;92 thnt he actually hr2f&#39;or" 1" &#39;-ould r".:92r&#39;921&#39;i. s&#39;H".l| rm invidezwt mm! open himself for timt &#39;0uId ncr*.or|p nj.&#39; such P report.
&#39; wt.
all
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rheoning
z&#39;E*1&#39;;i0th USA! -.}:" and st"-tinned
on rinian
he sn? in t&#39;r1~:> nttnr-hed
of tiw interviewerill !-"tWould
assign to6
Isl -.nc1, in the Pacific.
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aetuslly sew is also the Opinion
hove*1-.v:h wereto lose than gain saw something the ridicule
b§i&#39;-92L7i&#39;.e :.&#39;. , _.;92, .
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--* -r, &#39; at Boise, Idaho, July &#39;-.. .-;&#39;..-.&#39;. -T&#39;;:I.-&#39;_;.i=¢ ;=-§;.&#39;.&#39;--&#39;-_ ~;-_:i¢&#39; ~&#39;~¢._*_§-1.-.;._ ,&#39;&#39; "&#39; I.&#39; -&#39; -"12, -. -9d1.~ ""I1=5&#39;="-;.&#39;"-"&#39;-".&#39;?:&#39;*
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-&#39;__ .&#39; 9n theum dayof July,1941, 1received
of
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the _8tstosr:en Kenspepers, in Idaho as_;_,; incorpora yr _~§ ¥
&#39;_r&#39;92&#39;" etatesmn Printing company, an assignment which was in substances-é.-I_;;11=,,_ .1 _.;-,&#39;,,, &#39;;_.",_._f.".&#39;,. __ . . - - -n _ .cw: - " =_-tr: 1-,----:-:5-=1-:-3:- ?i: ;&#39 _, ,92. &#39; Conduct en serialssaroh of the northwest states inan effortxhou 1-I o. ._eee and photograph aflying disc. Conduct this petrolfor solongatii é"-if-i.&#39;. V
.as
you believe reasonable. or until you
T _In
seeaflying din.
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eeoordenoe these to instructions,I toot the Statesnen&#39;s airplane, i,~7_.;-_&#3 . &#39; and withqes passenger, flee a seven and one-half nission hour -1-1 oon tho seventhdev o July, l9i&#39;l. This saission was withoutresult. It-&#39;:=-L&#39;:-" -
,oorered an ares enhraoing confines the thelienford of plant Tashi in on: end territory
betwcon andaround Ett. Rainier and Sit. Adams,uher ,
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first reported seeing objectshenceforth described as saucers or discs. &#39; -:
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-On the eighth day orJuly, ion, 1tool: an at-sof thenoun Fighter f_&#39;§2f
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squadron, Idaho lletioncl Guard, oi ihich1an amember, and flew to nortiiern Idaho, into northwestern laontans briefly, to Spokane, iashington,and
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to Boiseby trey of FallsFalls, Tashington, and Pendleton, 0|-egon_._ Unis search alsono negative.
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On theninth dayof July, 1947, I continued thesearch, ags-in usinga1;;£{_-;"_ 1 -_
national guard Al -6, thistime centering =g&#39; efforts ovei-&#39;themountains 0:-yhee
rest and southwest of Boise, aportion of the llountain Bone desert on atrack _,,f&#39; southeast of the ountain lions army sir base, thence into the Saartoothnoun- ,;,.,
teins, and heck in the generaldirection of Ioiec onaline carrying; no well 17."-_
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to the north of the 5hafer hutte forest service lookout station, into the .0_ Tsorseshos Bend area, and thence heckin ssouthwesterly direction to I. point "_&#39;,_""& between Boiseand the village of
iieridisn, rest
of Boise afer
Iilese ,o,.»-a--. .~:&#39;.._<
"&#39; Duringthis march,which lastedapproximately two and one-half ;..;_-_,..;...-.&#39
hours, I lee underand around rapidly forming cumulus clouds over that &#39;0-_" _ ;_
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area knownas the Canes Prairie,east of Boise. fhe clouds werenear the :5 -&#39;»- &# .yillage of ?airfield in that valley, and F- airfield is 76 exilesairline ;,;f._,_&#39;; ___~._ _
-distanoe east of ~these clouds. -
..-.; At
Boise. it
that time
I saw nothing in
the vicinity of .--,--_" V__ &#39; 1 &#39; "o~:I. . "&#39; .&#39;*. , . "_&#39
the tine I reachedthe point between ioiee and Earidian,I one -&#39;--:~: .- -f;
flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet meansea level, Ihioh would he amean --&#39;n I: 1;-
average of 11,000 feetabove theearth in this ares, not consideringerrors fr--&#39;-_& in the
altimeter induced either by barometric
&#39;thebytee:-aersturs at that altitude. Y"-o
changes sincesq takeoff, 0r,_;-"_ -.1; &#39;-
Q3&#39;, "
&#39;0 ? I turned the aircraft onan easterly heading, pointing toward Goeen .r.;--.-_ . ,&#39;: 4-
:--. _ jg. Field, and had flown on that coursefor perhaps aninute when there suddenly _&#39;j,&#39;__&#39; appearedthe in left hand portion of my field of visionan object nh_i_ch_§s _" f-A "j f"-""hlect andround. &#39; " -&#39; .*&#39; &#39;&#39;1&#39; .. T_f&#39;I»;;":_?&#39; _ -_T_}_ 9-~ -1 t u . -.-92-_ .
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immediately centerod vq gazeon theohjeot-. At that tine, due to its
erre ic uoveocnt, thought I &#39;I was seeing; aweatherhclloon. I oolled
_,&#39; .. receltly ereleased balloon. Thehisfrom reply comunioator llherteon that on -i-§;.&#39;_. bureau the 1&#39; hnd not . do I not remember exact words; an I underthe CM" eoizunicetion station at Boise, andaskedifthe
weather stationl|al_1!&#39;. f."_
_~ __ &#39; impressionecidfnot he for several hours or gave lee the exact tile of
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distir~tion,"too1: my camera from the map case, and exposed abeut._ T, d back the plexiglass covering to avoid uni;
soeo Jo duration of
eight millimeter
motion picture
film.
If,
Duringéiie
the imc the camera was at eye level, I could not sec the object be-r§cause of ninuteneas of scope introduced by the optical vice findcrggie
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with which the camera, an f.l.9 Eastman, was eouipped.&#39;*~;ié5£~2 Z??1§* Taking the camera eeay and once again centering up gaze on th_ object, I observed it to roll so that its edge ca: presented to =e.;;;
et thie tine it fleshed eeee ie the senlights LtI then eppeered es e thin black line. It then performed u maneuver uoich looked as if it.had begun e sloh roll, or s barrel roll, chich instead of being con-, pleted, was broken off at about the 160-degree point. The object "1
rolled out of of
the top of
_
the maneuver at this-point, andI lost sight?
it
&#39; . Thisentireporfordonce wasotaerved againstthebackground of-;
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over the beans Prairie.
cloud 2 3-rev! 0|-sly Iorminz
to_ce, relatively,
The dejoctiappeored -
n twenty-five cert piece._-i do not es the size of knee hoe for sec; it vac. .1 do not tne:, nor can I trvthfullg estizgte its speed. I can only so: it ea: not an airplane, and if it nos st.a
very great ation that
distance apparent
from me, its speed use great, taking into considerspeed is reduced to thc&#39;viencr if an object is 1 _.
very great distance sway. &#39;
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mr clock to deternine tte enact tire I can teen zcde o&#39; l to&#39;bcve of radio contacts shoe: an first eestect " I first so-&#39; Eu: a fez second: elapsed betneen S bctgtini t 12: 7 hours. tf-etinece:::.:unicator__,..|e3 . the object, endre:..e the ber time it. I called the&#39;3at&#39;s-stati 1. .-noco::..rol toner ::a;,&#
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lgre1ete§_evcr t eradio Eof 33E?IpEi0a thatI 2?;
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rapid
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the
4: c nd the ieforxetion
was on aesignnent .
zltting
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have
not
over the air that to the neeepapcr, for
checked
to
uctcresne.
I so: was to Enable ot_thet time I
energies thcnceforth were devoted to ll transsnd ! conducting a further search, ¬hich.I _
&#39;-,;i fY"= f er fuel and to note seae telephone calls. rob, begun within half an hour after landing from the first one, consumed another too hours, tut nos negative. -1-explored I can the object. A1-1. -~ the rcgi on chore thprou;hl3 &#39; I21 &#39;C&#39;Glli ,3: - t_-cre were othzz after - ci;01;&#39; itin, " tro.-_ object, I asked if aircraft in tie area. There was s E-51 or tee 120th squadron practicdid 0-
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conversation. I
the PU PP 98 3 of my relating of the report treneviszion
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after
The
landing next
sea
113 maneuvers in the vicinity
0f_uupa, but that nus behind uc.- 4.6-32
yaased over Loiae, but I sue that feet. The P-bl in the vicinity of
aircraft 50 beneath ue kg some 2,000 tuna proceeded ta the srea&#39;dhere&#39; saw the abject, at_n5 request, and conducted e search. It was negative. Puring the afternoon, flights of P-Els core sent out to cover tto_erec,, and £2919: then flee high altitude aiesioni 01 ezggen." ihese searches
Q-_-glue. ggagiyo. , _-_.-._. _,.__, -,._~¢_, f-"P"7- .,=,=§&#39;§i*;-, --_§ cossubsequently informed thatpersonnel onboththeIhited iir Lines side of dozen ficl , and on the national guard side, observed 1 gleek object maneuvering in front of the sane cloud forestion, which t: nor had grown so that
the clouds reached a protablc
height of
19 CO0 or
20,000feet froms can base of ll .-,500 or l-1,000 feet, moan seelevel. &#39;so1-.-. G I
Three of _:-U__ .
these men more national
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guard personnel and 1 talked to them, r ..._...1..
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" _-,&#39;!" askin3 them to describe that in order to
avoid suggestion
sac the ohject they believed
the from
the time
thcys-rs, before or inference
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the object,
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1947, aclzoch was rn-Io at the
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ho had lived Palm in S;~ri1-.g_s for the past years 2-1 that andwas he unaware L if aporson 11zn.ior1~hac1 ever lived in Palm Springs. timt -he
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Astorm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of July 7, 1947, and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was grey
July &#39;7, 1947:
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appeared to be an odd shaped to 30 feet in diameter,
ship. traveling
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a photograph.
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on the second turn,
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northwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which more closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being designated as Exhibit II, as submitted to the Bureau with letter dated August 1,, 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A-2 Intelligence, Hamilton
Field, California. stating
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to the right
further describedthe di-rection of the ship by ,
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experience
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training,
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identification
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model which he had made of a
radio
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Colonel _Garxett
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Lieutenant Colonel
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1947. Colonel
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writing.
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to this office the finding of aflying at 6:00 A.M. on July 26, 1947.
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Information
was received
from the
Dow Gherrdcel Company, Midland
Michigan, that on -July 10, 1947, one _
an employocof
Ibw Chendcel Companysince about 1922, bI O921§some ,l&#39;1t| material Ph;,&#39;ai.cs laboratory.
Ho stated
that
about 5:15 p.m.,
Jul;
I 1
to their
&#39;9, ho. and his t
wife, L.-mra, were 1-m_&#39;Li.i.n;_-_ Ln a eld when thcjr hoard:1punoise &#39; about one hundred feet
amgr.
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and saw :1 ball
oi -.-:?|ite at-on . the size
of a bushel basket burning a:y= n&#39;o:-imatcly a foot off 01&#39; the ;;ro;;n: -. The died
out tmrr-edict ~11: and later
iend into a
Lane scooped up a three
can for oiarrtmotion at thoir
re
inch are-o of fused
laborotori.
Upon interview byrs:Agents, to1d&#39;substcntin1.1;,& the AL ~ story, but 1ras reluctant totalk and very indefinite about what 7some
hapa-med.
There were marked discrepancies in their ,
.
storico.
Dowauthorities considorodthe otorg:fantastic but rm"!
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the material and state contents are ordinal?-&#39; sand, not radio a-"ti.-re, hat. giving of! ammonia gas; a .=n1lLJ. silver nu&#39;"&#39;.ct zzl ost ~w~1rr~ or-r-"t for s"--&#39;1r .
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material
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which is radio active.
melted in sand
The level
and some gre&#39;,*ish color
of radio acti vitj; in this material
is ertremB].;," 1on.An employeeof Dow, formerly employed by the Goverrmcn .t t at Ins llamas Project, stated the fused sand has somecharacteristics of Loo Elamos Ban} tut. he does not believe it
is the same.
_l:: kravn i t . -e to hav n hi 5: possession a 51-311 quantity luminous paint, radio active, to be an nr-uatcurphotog-npherand to have a
of
limited knowledge of chemistry andp;92;s :.cs. He is described as verypeculiar,1
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for-wardin
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of sreport
furnished to
me by Lieutenant
Fourth Force, Air Field, Hamilton Californ selé¬ iries made
the results
/As
of inqu
by his
office concerning
the reported
Ir n. -
photoststic copies
letters dated
Uiscs," furnished
August 4,
I
1947
to me l
:0 cf S, A-2 Army Air Forces, Field, Hamilton California, who 76 ise acting inthe absence < enclosing copies ofreport reported sightings the results of their
It is
noted that
time Bureau instructions were into the reported sightings
of flying discs by investigations in
these investigations
Enciosnres
for the
completion cf
persons in Oregon and that regard.
were conducted. prior to
issued that our mm of flying discs.
Copies of these reports Phoenix Offices
BHK|0Illb T. $5. g.
of three
entitled "Ini&#39;estiget1cnof Flying
ct additional together with Aw _9:. .»~"_ .,--I
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cf further interest the in Bureau tothis regard, the ,.
mitted herewith
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-é }ei e:-ence made is my letter to to the Bureau dated July 28, 194&#39;! l
as above
_.t ng forth
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-sightingsof flying discs. .
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. _SAC,
entitled
3* &#39; er
i
Bureau would
Arizona,
the
conduct inquiries
are being forwarded to th¬" ?ort1|n " ¬:Ed their files
in connection
with this
subject.
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Reference is made to the teletype to the Bureau dated August 1., 194&#39;] stating ve been reported last by one
interview by that on August 3 he had been stationed at Fort Dix, obser house on Simone Avenue, Hack = .
from the Newark Division that a "1- i;.&#39;-ing Disc" had on August
Elackensack, upon
oi this Division, with
stated
a. soldier
igatop a.t1&#39;ro-s 5
ving a "ham"
.-
andtheywerein this vicinity for the purpose of meeting - -girlfriend,one dIIIIIIO
away of the that eastit was
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its balloon. ! noticed a round, black
lost
not discern
stop where he
moving too fast whether it was g
9&#39;l.1l&#39;n1T&#39;.1 Avenue and l&#39;. Simone
th
or a halt t tn d
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to be an ordinary balloon, in
but he could
or a disc.
form
He said
it
Ave
lt proceeded at a
nue.
steacy ~ rate ,
l q I.
p
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emitted no rays, and was moving 1&#39;ast enough to require tnem to turn their heads steadily in orde r to 1&#39;o.Llow it. ~gJr]_t&#39;riend came
--.-~_ -
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out
about
fifteen
seconds
ai
ter they first
it out to her, andshesaid that
so
small.
that
It
a line
faded
drawn
the vicinity Jersey. :1 ,.-3; ms - ._ 1&#39;}. &#39;92&#39; t J/C
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was about thirty to forty inches in diameter moving north in a horizontal plane about two hundr edyardsaoove the top of the nil.Lat
1
siii
a child nan apparently
_that
a anooked and about ob ect movin fro so
lobular
out
along
of Bendix,
also also
noticed
this
man
it
seemed
_S8.ILd
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looked
sighted it.
which it
a bird
like
of s
ight shortly thereafter. _
its
apparent
They pointed on the
horizon
said
course of .f.Li{5ht would go from
New Jersey to a point west of &#39;;&#39;!est92-zood, I-Iew
saidthat
and pointed excited
it
but
it out tothe women. -said thatA7 C1 a man on the porch across the street
did nothing
about it.
that
he was positive the s un and saw tne
was no optical
it
object
3310- tnat he would have thought nothing of it
clearly. He
illusion. also
except for the speed at
57¢
was traveling. ---__
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ensack. It was apprmrimately 7:45 p.m.,
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upon interview j
by Special at about
Agent stated that the event in question occurred 7:30 on the evening of Sunda &#39;, August 3. she said that she
was
e
inth h
ouse
immediately,
when
d
cailed
and they pointed
to
out the object
ner. She
went
in question.
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out
She saw
it just before it disappeared over the horizon, but she declared that it was in view from that time for approximately one minute. She said it was round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving. She said that she did not recall making any comment that it might have been a oird
and herself
the distance have
been
had no idea
from which she noticed
more
than
six
inches
in
larger 1.1she had beennear to it. never seen a.nytning like
it
of what
it,
it
could
she said that
diameter
out
would
said
he.
it
In
view
of
could not
have
been
~
much
that sne had
before.
She said thatacross thestreet the
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daughter, were the only people sitting on the porch and she, erself, did not notice arqrone pointing to-.-rardthe ooje_ct in question. The
_
only other person around, to her knowledge,wa5
U
sister
"
who remained in the house and did not see the ooject
of e
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was on the porch onthe evening inquestion with her mother but didL7 Q stated
w
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that
she
not notice any unusual object in the sky nor had an},-&#39; man been present there to point out the oojeot in question.
.:-E --"I
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13, 194&#39;!
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A .-." 1&#39;. r..
about two
.1
to three
feet
indiameter
yards offtne ground. _said he
.5 -1,1&#39; ~ .m n- -;_ t-4, 92 4;" _ ...-
moving rapidly
about two
r
hundred
thought at first it was achild&#39;s-__
balloon, but when he noticed there was no wind and the object had no strings to it, he decided itwas something else. He stated the object was moving in a steady, straight path, going north, and he said" there was no
exhaust or
aid they
indication of
any motive
observed tne object for
power for
fifteen or
the object.
twenty seconds.
He
could give not a looked oh_ject&#39;s oicolor tne or material it é 7Cc was composed 01description but said it tne like more alarge, flat child&#39;s than anything else he could think oi , as the ooject was oval on the top and camea to point on the bottom Paid side. than -e
§i T5 : »a=
stated "Maybe it&#39;s flying a saucer". thing move through the air quite like
.:;a
where it
came
drink, and
He sai this object,
he had never seen and he had
anyno idea
from.
stated that neither norhe.had had anything tob there was 51J.I.&#39;fJ.Ci¬I&#39;.92&#39;922 for them to observe .l_&#39;Lg,nt tne object
very clearly.
-
The 1|;-lymg Bison reported was oy .the writer __ _ . d, L that his Department taxen hadfurther no action nor had &#39 O oi the
}Iacken...ack Police
they received reports of It may be noted that no _-brought
to the
attention OI
Department. advise
the object other Police
in question from any other source. Department in tne vicinity has
this Division
any information
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0-Q
demanding inquiries that have originated topside upon former events, give more than ordinary weight to the possibility that this is a donestic
Ii
project, about which the President, etc. know. !
Whateverthe objects are, this muchcan be said of
their ehysical
appearance:
1. The surface of skin, at least. 2. when a trail
these objects is metallic, is observed, it
indicating a colored, a
is lightly
haze, that is similar to a rocket engine&#39;s exhaust. Contrary to a of the solid type which would i
e observation indicates
te a liquid n3 to shape, all
metallic Blue-Brown
that the fuel may be throttled
rocket engine. observations state
5. Flights hens been reported,from three with
e-J
rocket
th.t
the object
is
circular-
or at le elliptical, flat on the bottom and slightly domed on the top. The size estimates place it somewherenear the size of a C-54 or a Constellation. 4. some reports describe two tabs, located at the rear and ,. symetrical about the iinn axis of flight motion. good&#39;fcrmation on each other,
L_
to nine of them, flying
speeds always above 3C0 kncts
6. Thediscsoscillatelaterdllywhileflyingalong,which could
a-_-
tr. ~
FPO
be snaking.
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