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1-'3. July 1947 92

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1- On 12 July 1947, n c 11 war: Y-1: do '=t tlzr, newsnener {he "Idr ho Lsilv SIT !-<=="-'1n" oi , li ho "h~"

pnper ,

knew

_

r.-as lnterviewccl in regard tohow wellhe

of

Ioise,

any ."bF li _'!"» movie l'1t 1_"

Tdnluo, and as to the

credibility

of

The Ourpose 0!" this

interview

I55 an

attev--atto verify Str92t1'r:0ntS nodel>y 0n

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to vrricms notional

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had s"et1 9

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26 June1947,

news services to the ef'|"ect. that he,

objects f"l}rin_g in the nir above the "ascede Hountain Range ofWe -.11in;'_ton. 1'hc soobjects were subsequently referred toasflying 4 saucers

or

flying

disks

and will

in this report. $+.sted

here-in af5er

be referred

th t he hadI-:no1-in

to

as

such

rm-

quite n period of ti--we, hm/in{' had r '1ntin'n': with on various occnsinrs, due to the fact that both he and were or vste Fliers and frequently got together to talk shop-

stetnd that as fer tr'.1"'*n '¢."~ry seriously Arnold hvd seem the

rr. he was r -on:-horned anyt 1inr_ nnd that 11'! rforerertloned llring

after _.-@;~.=r+.¢d Q Iu'_' <

Office of of

said could be

scizuall

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believed that Hr. stated that

dlsks.

Eevini seen the flying: dfsks, that the editor

of -".3"pr -_*92<2r Md Hs5'="r.ed P-in, the assignment of taking the nirjslr-w oelon,",ir1{; tr the nz-::s;-:1; ;r aw: 93-h:=u$tinf_ P11 efforts to prove " or disjrove th probrbilitf of flying disks hevinr been seen in the

!:o1 t92 w.--:»r1I". area. The results

of 1.11srssi,"_n" .e:':t to _and

he sn »s¢quen'1'.l}.' sm" s put forth "1 a swornstatementsigned t

what

nttr 0. .- to r! this report as 'lxhibit 5.

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uric. on

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is 0 e'"n 0?

"-fZ TfO.!'!§" he 1'lE. isr verr '- .

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logged P300 hours of 1"1§.'inI"_ tinr in various types of airplanes uvtoP"I including; -u1ti vii!--2 erYrcr"Ft. 'mrir1;i hart ofthe war years,&

,',:_~|

the

s: 1_p_

t 1=== =rs-an-"ll 0-i w!;r+. he stntes that

$5. -r.

em 92.'-" '.'hm-". u'l to be very str0T ."_1j convirlce-'92 thnt he actually hr2f'or" 1" '-ould r".:92r'921'i. s'H".l| rm invidezwt mm! open himself for timt '0uId ncr*.or|p nj.' such P report.

' wt.

all

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rheoning

z'E*1';i0th USA! -.}:" and st"-tinned

on rinian

he sn? in t'r1~:> nttnr-hed

of tiw interviewerill !-"tWould

assign to6

Isl -.nc1, in the Pacific.

1¬ nc~rt-

It

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aetuslly sew is also the Opinion

hove*1-.v:h wereto lose than gain saw something the ridicule


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--* -r, ' at Boise, Idaho, July '-.. .-;'..-.'. -T';:I.-'_;.i=¢ ;=-§;.'.'--'-_ ~;-_:i¢' ~'~¢._*_§-1.-.;._ ,'' "' I.' -' -"12, -. -9d1.~ ""I1=5'="-;.'"-"'-".'?:'*

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of

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the _8tstosr:en Kenspepers, in Idaho as_;_,; incorpora yr _~§ ¥

'_r'92'" etatesmn Printing company, an assignment which was in substances-é.-I_;;11=,,_ .1 _.;-,',,, ';_.",_._f.".',. __ . . - - -n _ .cw: - " =_-tr: 1-,----:-:5-=1-:-3:- ?i: ;&#39 _, ,92. ' Conduct en serialssaroh of the northwest states inan effortxhou 1-I o. ._eee and photograph aflying disc. Conduct this petrolfor solongatii é"-if-i.'. V

.as

you believe reasonable. or until you

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seeaflying din.

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eeoordenoe these to instructions,I toot the Statesnen's airplane, i,~7_.;-_&#3 . ' and withqes passenger, flee a seven and one-half nission hour -1-1 oon tho seventhdev o July, l9i'l. This saission was withoutresult. It-':=-L':-" -

,oorered an ares enhraoing confines the thelienford of plant Tashi in on: end territory

betwcon andaround Ett. Rainier and Sit. Adams,uher ,

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first reported seeing objectshenceforth described as saucers or discs. ' -:

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-On the eighth day orJuly, ion, 1tool: an at-sof thenoun Fighter f_'§2f

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squadron, Idaho lletioncl Guard, oi ihich1an amember, and flew to nortiiern Idaho, into northwestern laontans briefly, to Spokane, iashington,and

l .

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to Boiseby trey of FallsFalls, Tashington, and Pendleton, 0|-egon_._ Unis search alsono negative.

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On theninth dayof July, 1947, I continued thesearch, ags-in usinga1;;£{_-;"_ 1 -_

national guard Al -6, thistime centering =g' efforts ovei-'themountains 0:-yhee

rest and southwest of Boise, aportion of the llountain Bone desert on atrack _,,f' southeast of the ountain lions army sir base, thence into the Saartoothnoun- ,;,.,

teins, and heck in the generaldirection of Ioiec onaline carrying; no well 17."-_

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to the north of the 5hafer hutte forest service lookout station, into the .0_ Tsorseshos Bend area, and thence heckin ssouthwesterly direction to I. point "_',_""& between Boiseand the village of

iieridisn, rest

of Boise afer

Iilese ,o,.»-a--. .~:'.._<

"' Duringthis march,which lastedapproximately two and one-half ;..;_-_,..;...-.&#39

hours, I lee underand around rapidly forming cumulus clouds over that '0-_" _ ;_

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area knownas the Canes Prairie,east of Boise. fhe clouds werenear the :5 -'»- &# .yillage of ?airfield in that valley, and F- airfield is 76 exilesairline ;,;f._,_'; ___~._ _

-distanoe east of ~these clouds. -

..-.; At

Boise. it

that time

I saw nothing in

the vicinity of .--,--_" V__ ' 1 ' "o~:I. . "' .'*. , . "_&#39

the tine I reachedthe point between ioiee and Earidian,I one -'--:~: .- -f;

flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet meansea level, Ihioh would he amean --'n I: 1;-

average of 11,000 feetabove theearth in this ares, not consideringerrors fr--'-_& in the

altimeter induced either by barometric

'thebytee:-aersturs at that altitude. Y"-o

changes sincesq takeoff, 0r,_;-"_ -.1; '-

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'0 ? I turned the aircraft onan easterly heading, pointing toward Goeen .r.;--.-_ . ,': 4-

:--. _ jg. Field, and had flown on that coursefor perhaps aninute when there suddenly _'j,'__' appearedthe in left hand portion of my field of visionan object nh_i_ch_§s _" f-A "j f"-""hlect andround. ' " -' .*' ''1' .. T_f'I»;;":_?' _ -_T_}_ 9-~ -1 t u . -.-92-_ .

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immediately centerod vq gazeon theohjeot-. At that tine, due to its

erre ic uoveocnt, thought I 'I was seeing; aweatherhclloon. I oolled

_,' .. receltly ereleased balloon. Thehisfrom reply comunioator llherteon that on -i-§;.'_. bureau the 1' hnd not . do I not remember exact words; an I underthe CM" eoizunicetion station at Boise, andaskedifthe

weather stationl|al_1!'. f."_

_~ __ ' impressionecidfnot he for several hours or gave lee the exact tile of

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0- _ _.; ;,.:.--r-"--4,,-' _ -f -"'* ' 92e;=i:;.. as .~ " 92L-1° .'---,1;-.2-1.->.;& ga " ~.. . . ..._.~.-.-;-;92.:=®;s:,'%._¬__,_v_+ I __,,' _

distir~tion,"too1: my camera from the map case, and exposed abeut._ T, d back the plexiglass covering to avoid uni;

soeo Jo duration of

eight millimeter

motion picture

film.

If,

Duringéiie

the imc the camera was at eye level, I could not sec the object be-r§cause of ninuteneas of scope introduced by the optical vice findcrggie

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with which the camera, an f.l.9 Eastman, was eouipped.'*~;ié5£~2 Z??1§* Taking the camera eeay and once again centering up gaze on th_ object, I observed it to roll so that its edge ca: presented to =e.;;;

et thie tine it fleshed eeee ie the senlights LtI then eppeered es e thin black line. It then performed u maneuver uoich looked as if it.had begun e sloh roll, or s barrel roll, chich instead of being con-, pleted, was broken off at about the 160-degree point. The object "1

rolled out of of

the top of

_

the maneuver at this-point, andI lost sight?

it

' . Thisentireporfordonce wasotaerved againstthebackground of-;

_

over the beans Prairie.

cloud 2 3-rev! 0|-sly Iorminz

to_ce, relatively,

The dejoctiappeored -

n twenty-five cert piece._-i do not es the size of knee hoe for sec; it vac. .1 do not tne:, nor can I trvthfullg estizgte its speed. I can only so: it ea: not an airplane, and if it nos st.a

very great ation that

distance apparent

from me, its speed use great, taking into considerspeed is reduced to thc'viencr if an object is 1 _.

very great distance sway. '

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' r I forget to lock ct the object. The CA5 : lo;

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mr clock to deternine tte enact tire I can teen zcde o' l to'bcve of radio contacts shoe: an first eestect " I first so-' Eu: a fez second: elapsed betneen S bctgtini t 12: 7 hours. tf-etinece:::.:unicator__,..|e3 . the object, endre:..e the ber time it. I called the'3at's-stati 1. .-noco::..rol toner ::a;,&#

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lgre1ete§_evcr t eradio Eof 33E?IpEi0a thatI 2?;

sa:,'s1i -_. have s recording of Q I

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rapid

.>

the

4: c nd the ieforxetion

was on aesignnent .

zltting

S L,

have

not

over the air that to the neeepapcr, for

checked

to

uctcresne.

I so: was to Enable ot_thet time I

energies thcnceforth were devoted to ll transsnd ! conducting a further search, ¬hich.I _

'-,;i fY"= f er fuel and to note seae telephone calls. rob, begun within half an hour after landing from the first one, consumed another too hours, tut nos negative. -1-explored I can the object. A1-1. -~ the rcgi on chore thprou;hl3 ' I21 'C'Glli ,3: - t_-cre were othzz after - ci;01;' itin, " tro.-_ object, I asked if aircraft in tie area. There was s E-51 or tee 120th squadron practicdid 0-

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conversation. I

the PU PP 98 3 of my relating of the report treneviszion

s_ l'_ ". .-

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after

The

landing next

sea

113 maneuvers in the vicinity

0f_uupa, but that nus behind uc.- 4.6-32

yaased over Loiae, but I sue that feet. The P-bl in the vicinity of

aircraft 50 beneath ue kg some 2,000 tuna proceeded ta the srea'dhere' saw the abject, at_n5 request, and conducted e search. It was negative. Puring the afternoon, flights of P-Els core sent out to cover tto_erec,, and £2919: then flee high altitude aiesioni 01 ezggen." ihese searches

Q-_-glue. ggagiyo. , _-_.-._. _,.__, -,._~¢_, f-"P"7- .,=,=§'§i*;-, --_§ cossubsequently informed thatpersonnel onboththeIhited iir Lines side of dozen ficl , and on the national guard side, observed 1 gleek object maneuvering in front of the sane cloud forestion, which t: nor had grown so that

the clouds reached a protablc

height of

19 CO0 or

20,000feet froms can base of ll .-,500 or l-1,000 feet, moan seelevel. 'so1-.-. G I

Three of _:-U__ .

these men more national

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guard personnel and 1 talked to them, r ..._...1..

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" _-,'!" askin3 them to describe that in order to

avoid suggestion

sac the ohject they believed

the from

the time

thcys-rs, before or inference

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'*_~':-11>-. 5Qua -"e"!-'l

telling, thera'|::;1 story, _.

oi'.a leadingnature. r-'I,'hey&#3 -"

ground! while

I was on my second

to have been 14:00

hours. £110

seirch. -5'"

objectpertormed

'~ "I The -11" above is the extent thectstory, and inrorm atio l=w&° r""°=' in <>r¢=r. U _ __in .

the sane erratic manner,

. , -. --,if.rang,

_

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fan

they told,

as I obecrvcd._1';<T'-:1 -I_&#39

" Ihave approximately 2600 hours of flying time in oqulpmont* :, ¢;;_; -I--29:. Oi course, that doe: not 1n'-"5 &#39 l ng fronrpriazory trainer: to

crease my powers oi ohcervation except as to those 1 -rocticed daily hyf. airman. It does not make my eyesight any sharper except ag,ain_as

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_-;_. _a to the incidental demands upon the eyes Oi Ii pilot. ,--.'i;-erg;r;-:--_-=. _E 57> -'" At the time of the experience related above, Ihad flown tour-»' ' _ _teen and one-half hours on an lssignment to rind a disc and if-possible, to photograph it.In all frankness, Iwas tired. I may have been .1." sufrering,

although slightly,

' _' Prior

in pressing,

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to sighting

the search

from cant

the object,

that I

of oxygen.

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I had concluded there was no point

probably would

never see the

_ _' objectsall tines referred toduring; byband by Ft ~a:_,; -alt thsearck:,'ho on

disc-like

-

United Lines. air

the -1 .a-rd'and .' .two _..-

:* - ' proceeding day-s [particularly when ca: _Iwith ibad lrterallyé¢ -talked to myself to keep boating into my head hat Iwould not fall,"-;_; ' ""' '~

tr

- ' victim to the pacer oi suggestion or self-hypnosis arising from ' naturally very intent desire to find adisc and bring success -to '_assi,-grunent given us. _ -"1

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_or

.- -

Itherefore

hypnosis.

beginning to

1an

do not believe that familiar ti

more after

it

.knee s.-hat tricks the was . o.f- this particularly during

v-

th the

is watched

.- ' -I

saw the object appear

as it

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_ _not

would not

aballoon,

suddenly.

first} for

he, so strong in

the full

saying; that

and not acorpuscle

the victim

or sug,gestion_'

of afixed

asuilficicnt

will play as to night formation

fashion

did at

Iwas

optical illusion

length oi

moving-bodies, and flying.

ifit

tine.

object

I

hat : le arnei -~,-_-._¢_-;_

had novod in aJerky

length oi

Isao

a" the .-

time Iobserved

something not

moving acres: the retina

1 .

-1t,

an aircraft,

oi either

-1 eye. 'i'h_edescribed maneuvertythe object than its edge was presented tto nae convinces me that I can an object actually performing in an; '" "'

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instructed to contact this newspaperin an e fort

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'Q fice dated Septemberb, 19h7, the New A York

By letter

Suffolk

paper

had appeared in "Newsday," the local newspaper of Nassau an County, Long Island, New York. The City Editor of this news-

stated

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the original

had been signed

only

Radio Ham and

knew of no way of determining the identity of the writer. It was the City Editor's opinion that the code had been made op by some local "screwball"'who had been affected

that

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FBI

to

stories

Laboratory

by all o

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FCC maintains

their amateur records by a gBOgruphiCG1 breakdown as well as by call letters and that the Laboratory could possibly get the names of all =1 -.2

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Astorm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of July 7, 1947, and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was grey

July '7, 1947:

the

mile per hour

and they resembled dense cumulus. A fifteen

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walking from his home

noise resembling a P-B0 aircraft, apparently Upon searching the skies he observed to the

appeared to be an odd shaped to 30 feet in diameter,

ship. traveling

ship as

He described this at an estimated speed

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100 miles_per hour. It appeared tobe making aspiral inasmall radius of 5 possibly one-half tothree quarters of a mile._Stated thesound which he first heard was no longer audible; that he hurriedly procured a 120 Brownie Box Camerafrom his shop, and as the aircraft completed the first circle he obtained

a photograph.

As the ship started

on the second turn,

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was in a

northwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which more closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being designated as Exhibit II, as submitted to the Bureau with letter dated August 1,, 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A-2 Intelligence, Hamilton

Field, California. stating

that

to the right

further describedthe di-rection of the ship by ,

instead

of completing

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the lefthand

he had snapped the second photograph,

at the last

mint,

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related that he did

the numerous reports

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of flying

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training,

aircraft

identification

and gunnery practice.

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model which he had made of a

radio

that most of his work consists of building

for him to dependuponhis music abiliiy

controlled

transformers,

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; Inexplaining the results of photographing the ship,

stat-edtl-at he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light background; that he ly expected that the object would be light on a dark background. He described the light spot which appears in the center of the object

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Station RTAR,whereinstatementswere made that

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any propeller.

officials

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the newspaper release over Radio '

that after

he,

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were studying the photographs, and that it was a top secret, he

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e,x.hibited hiscredentials. However, pursuant to a request from 561'. he of the United States governmen . His

was introduced only as a representative

exactofficial connection wasnotmade known to Mr. that he felt it was a

Agent-

advised

peculiar procedure, but it was not his business. However,

at the conclusion of the interview, llr. "requested In-.-to furnish ' him with the negatives and stated he iould be glad todo so, but they

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Colonel _Garxett

no research or about

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Lieutenant Colonel

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August 19,

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1947. Colonel

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GROUP UASOBSERVED, SIMILAR OBJECTS WERENOTED CONINGBACK

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CITY VERY

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INFORNANTSSTATED THE

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s arching the area for approximately l0 minutesqand

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citizen in

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Information

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from the

Dow Gherrdcel Company, Midland

Michigan, that on -July 10, 1947, one _

an employocof

Ibw Chendcel Companysince about 1922, bI O921§some ,l'1t| material Ph;,'ai.cs laboratory.

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about 5:15 p.m.,

Jul;

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to their

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wife, L.-mra, were 1-m_'Li.i.n;_-_ Ln a eld when thcjr hoard:1punoise ' about one hundred feet

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iend into a

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can for oiarrtmotion at thoir

re

inch are-o of fused

laborotori.

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hapa-med.

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by his

office concerning

the reported

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photoststic copies

letters dated

Uiscs," furnished

August 4,

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1947

to me l

:0 cf S, A-2 Army Air Forces, Field, Hamilton California, who 76 ise acting inthe absence < enclosing copies ofreport reported sightings the results of their

It is

noted that

time Bureau instructions were into the reported sightings

of flying discs by investigations in

these investigations

Enciosnres

for the

completion cf

persons in Oregon and that regard.

were conducted. prior to

issued that our mm of flying discs.

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entitled "Ini'estiget1cnof Flying

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Arizona,

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Reference is made to the teletype to the Bureau dated August 1., 194'] stating ve been reported last by one

interview by that on August 3 he had been stationed at Fort Dix, obser house on Simone Avenue, Hack = .

from the Newark Division that a "1- i;.'-ing Disc" had on August

Elackensack, upon

oi this Division, with

stated

a. soldier

igatop a.t1'ro-s 5

ving a "ham"

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lost

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but he could

or a disc.

form

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it

Ave

lt proceeded at a

nue.

steacy ~ rate ,

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emitted no rays, and was moving 1'ast enough to require tnem to turn their heads steadily in orde r to 1'o.Llow it. ~gJr]_t'riend came

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out

about

fifteen

seconds

ai

ter they first

it out to her, andshesaid that

so

small.

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faded

drawn

the vicinity Jersey. :1 ,.-3; ms - ._ 1'}. '92' t J/C

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was about thirty to forty inches in diameter moving north in a horizontal plane about two hundr edyardsaoove the top of the nil.Lat

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a child nan apparently

_that

a anooked and about ob ect movin fro so

lobular

out

along

of Bendix,

also also

noticed

this

man

it

seemed

_S8.ILd

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looked

sighted it.

which it

a bird

like

of s

ight shortly thereafter. _

its

apparent

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horizon

said

course of .f.Li{5ht would go from

New Jersey to a point west of ';'!est92-zood, I-Iew

saidthat

and pointed excited

it

but

it out tothe women. -said thatA7 C1 a man on the porch across the street

did nothing

about it.

that

he was positive the s un and saw tne

was no optical

it

object

3310- tnat he would have thought nothing of it

clearly. He

illusion. also

except for the speed at

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by Special at about

Agent stated that the event in question occurred 7:30 on the evening of Sunda ', August 3. she said that she

was

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immediately,

when

d

cailed

and they pointed

to

out the object

ner. She

went

in question.

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out

She saw

it just before it disappeared over the horizon, but she declared that it was in view from that time for approximately one minute. She said it was round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving. She said that she did not recall making any comment that it might have been a oird

and herself

the distance have

been

had no idea

from which she noticed

more

than

six

inches

in

larger 1.1she had beennear to it. never seen a.nytning like

it

of what

it,

it

could

she said that

diameter

out

would

said

he.

it

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view

of

could not

have

been

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much

that sne had

before.

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daughter, were the only people sitting on the porch and she, erself, did not notice arqrone pointing to-.-rardthe ooje_ct in question. The

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U

sister

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that

she

not notice any unusual object in the sky nor had an},-' man been present there to point out the oojeot in question.

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about two

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feet

indiameter

yards offtne ground. _said he

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about two

r

hundred

thought at first it was achild's-__

balloon, but when he noticed there was no wind and the object had no strings to it, he decided itwas something else. He stated the object was moving in a steady, straight path, going north, and he said" there was no

exhaust or

aid they

indication of

any motive

observed tne object for

power for

fifteen or

the object.

twenty seconds.

He

could give not a looked oh_ject's oicolor tne or material it é 7Cc was composed 01description but said it tne like more alarge, flat child's than anything else he could think oi , as the ooject was oval on the top and camea to point on the bottom Paid side. than -e

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stated "Maybe it's flying a saucer". thing move through the air quite like

.:;a

where it

came

drink, and

He sai this object,

he had never seen and he had

anyno idea

from.

stated that neither norhe.had had anything tob there was 51J.I.'fJ.Ci¬I'.92'922 for them to observe .l_'Lg,nt tne object

very clearly.

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}Iacken...ack Police

they received reports of It may be noted that no _-brought

to the

attention OI

Department. advise

the object other Police

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this Division

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