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The Staff and Sword Ministry
January 20, 2012
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By: Chuek-JOHNEL
Andrew on October 1, 2411 . (Q uo te) "Dear Chuck-JOI NEL, I really appreciate you and Rob A. in the We Get Letters . I sense a little rebellion in Rob A., but as he has brought the issue to the light, he is in a good place to receive instruction. Chuck, your humanity comes out so beautifully: "not easy to give a simple answer", "the nature of some of the questions brought me to pray", "You 'd have to ask Father God that
yourself. ..1 don't have a clue." First, Chuck, what you presented in response was perfect, maybe more perfect than you realized. I would like to explain what I saw in here as I believe there are many that could benefit. ...Chuck, you brought up at the end of your response "that God is good and all He does is good." Now, that is a good constant? We must mathematically look for answers in this parameter. To expand our constants and make finding the answer to variables easier we could also say, God is true, just, pure, gracious, merciful, longsuffering, kind, approachable, forgiving, patient, all-powerful, full of love. The very proof that Rob A. was allowed to accuse God of possible mischief and continue through the day appropriating God's goodness, affirms the above attributes are true and firm, and worthy to be labeled constants. We have multitudes affirming God's goodness throug hout the Bible, all the way to the four- creatures that stand at Father God's throne and affirm God constantly righteous, true and just. Only when we finally resolve to accept God's goodness as constant, can we begin to understand any variable of His creation. . When we come to solid grounding that God is good, we finally allow God to show us His truth. Good grounding helps us let go of the need to find other's approval in doctrine. Letting go of erroneous doctrines and embracing new doctrines is easy with the stability of a true constant. For example, the hardship many have in
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Andrew on October I, 2011. (Quote continued) embracing the new doctrine of two devils, Adam/Satan and Lucifer, has come from people needing others to believe with them; evidence that other's approval is necessary for support (another variable being erroneously used for a constant). I perceive we limit God in many truths of which God would delight in sharing with us, except our ungrounded constants (variables) lock its up in fear of knowing. To conclude, if I were Rob A. or someone like him, I would say, "Heavenly Father, in Jesus' Name forgive me for judging you as evil, for not looking after people well enough to keep so many people from the ravages of hell. You are a good God. This is true. I do not know the total of what You are doing. Please teach me what You are doing, and I will look for it in the place of Your goodness and love". That's all, Chuck. I'm so glad this came up, as I thoroughly enjoy the topic of God's goodness." (Unquote) Chuck-JOHNEL: Thank you for sharing Andrew. I found a way to make my wife drive more carefully. I told her if she ever got in an accident, the newspapers would print her real age. Murk and Charlene on October 15, 2011 . ( Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and
Nancy-TONI, We have been in the "wilderness" for many years. We felt the Holy Spirit led us away from established churches and ministries. We got rid of our TV, and little by little, our relatives and friends left. We had heard your Prophecy of Judgment on America; however, [we also] believed it and sent it to those previously mentioned friends and family. From time to time we would listen to the message, being convicted that it was true. Yet, rather like the Book of Revelations, it always seemed mysterious and in the future. Several years ago, the Lord brought us to a closer walk with Him in which we prayed and studied the Bible frequently. We began to see many Spiritual advances in our life. Then, about three years ago, in very unusual and convincing ways, the Spirit directed us to seven cities and four states—all but one city and one state were in the SAFE AREAS. We were amazed. Then the places just would not go away, so we thought we must do something. We went through several phases of trying to figure out what the Holy Spirit was wanting us to do, including visiting all but one of the states and cities (to no avail), and trying twice to put our house on the market (also to no avail). All along we got visions, words, dreams—you name it—about these places, yet NEVER a direct word to move from here or to any of the other places. Do we need to say that we got frustrated?
Page 3 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Mark and Charlene on October 15 2011. ( Quote continued) Finally, we got to the point where we see you are with your Net of Prayer. We begin praying for the SAFE AREAS and the people to go there. We realized that being in Christ Jesus was more i mportant than any place we lived. But the more we continue our search and prayer, the more this one thing matters: that where we go, there are Christians serving God with a pure heart. What is the use of going to a place, having all your physical needs met, and having none of God's people to serve the Lord with? Of course, we began to also know that we have to do the Lord's will, disentangle from our own personal desires, and surrender ALL to Him. He does say, "Ask, what you will, that your joy be full." No house or land can move us to desire, unless we see His people are there. When we ventured out of the wilderness and visited churches in this large area, we were appalled at what we found! We could find nobody wanting to pray, nor did any of them seem to know anything was terribly wrong in this nation. They totally rejected the idea that the Lord would Judge this nation, or their church (we had been given 2 Chron. 7:13-16, to pray and share)! The gospel being preached was so weak or erroneously taught that it could be called the anti-gospel. We've found a few unsaved [people] that are more aware of the condition of this nation, in fact. But we still have not ONE person to join us for prayer, except [the] Net of Prayer. Where do we find the people with whom to "touch and agree"? We really hope the Holy Spirit
will guide you to help all those hearing and believing the message, for the hour to find each other. Would you consider helping us to be in touch with each other? Thanks for your newsletters and Net of Prayer." (Unquote) Reply by Clruck- JOHNEL:Again, thank you for sharing your experiences in Christ. The single most frequent question is, "How do we find Christians of like mind, heart and Spirit?" Well, they are around but more like salt, sprinkled all over the place and not gathered in piles (assemblies). As you get to "know " JESUS more and more through prayer, intercession and abiding, He will ,phew you what He wants you to do, where to go, how, why and when. For example: Those who reject the call to p r ay today, who deny that judgment can happen to America, when it begins to be obvious (even to the blind) that it is here, they will lookfor leadership, help and direction to know what to do and where to go or not go. The current pastors who are either incompetent, hapless, hopeless or wholly unprepared wil! be no better off that the rest of the congregation. At times like this you will . find those few that are prepared, p rayer warriors, those ofJith who have kept a low p r ofile in the church all along. They will stand out at tines like this -
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Re fly bye Chuck-JOHNEL (Continued): sent by God who have been prepared to be a help to His sheep. In that day o fgreat need, those belonging to the Lord who have prepared spiritually, physically and emotionally will be drawn together by the Spirit of God to do the work He has for them. Until then we need to keep our eyes on JESUS above all. God bless. I've figured out how to avoid getting parking tickets. I've taken the windshield wipers off my car.
Anonymous on (no dates. (Quote) "Dear Staff and Sword Ministry: I am writing to say thank you for all of the work you do; so much diligent work, serving Jesus and the Body of Christ! I pray you are all in good health and spirits. I imagine it can get weary dealing with Christians who do not understand your ministry. But, praise God. He can come along beside us by His Spirit and encourage us along. Here are some funds for the work of the ministry." (Unquote) I took my old bucket for a tuneup yesterday—the mechanic advised me to keep the oil and change the car.
Gracie Gonzalez, dT. On November 25, 2011. (Quote) "Really thank you for this way of keeping in touch. Though I am here in this small island of Puerto Rico, it means a lot to know what all is going on in America. Our sons [and family] live in Kansas ...I am the only one of my family here in Puerto Rico and Nef of his, therefore, what happens in the States means a lot to us; but, praises be to Father, that we know our children and grandchildren are in His Hands and care, because He has given us His Shalom Chuck. May Father keep you and Nancy-TONI in health, saturated in the Blood of Jesus, and His Angels surround your lives and that of your children. Love you both deeply." (Unquote) A waffle is like a pancake with a syrup trap. Mitch Hedberg
Jerry S. On October 14 2011. ( Quote) "Dear Chuck-J0HNEL, Greetings and well wishes to you. We hope that things are going well for you, and that you are being blessed by the Lord. We have received your September, 2011 newsletter. Thank you for sending it all the way to Ghana.
Page 5 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Jer S. On October ]42O11. (Quote continued) Recently, it was in the news
that elements in Iran had plotted the assassination of a Saudi ambassador to the U.S. and attacks on the Saudi and Israeli embassies in the U.S. This is showing a possible alignment of Saudi Arabia and the U.S. against Iran that could eventually result in U.S. troops being in Saudi Arabia and being targeted by Iran. I placed an ad in a newspaper about what you have prophesied- I have some copies of the ad that show the date of the issue, so as to be able to demonstrate that this was indeed prophesied ahead of time, shou]d what you have prophesied takes place. In this last newsletter, you mentioned the Leader of the Land. Do you know if he has had military training, especially special forces training? You have said that the Russians would know about the prophecy concerning him driving them into the sea, and would want to locate him to kill him. What about you? If they know about him, certainly they would know about you. Wouldn't they come looking for you? Do you plan to stay in the Colville area?" (Unquote) Response b JOHNEL: I can say nothing about the Leader of the Land. Keep in mind that "if" I let it be known what state he lived in that the Russian occupation force would round up and execute every roan in that state. To say anything about his military training or lack of it would have a like effect. I'm not about to give the enemy any kind of hint about him whatsoever other than the fact that he is a male and is the anointed of God. As . for me, JESUS long since assigned an Archangel to guard and keep me with instructions to kill anyone who tried to do me harm (assassination, etc.. The KGB (Communist Russian Secret Police) went after inc inany years ago, sending trained assassins with orders to kill me on sight, that Angel killed them before they got near me. My trust is in the Lord JESUS and I do not give this snitch concern one way or another. If He were to allow them to kill me, it would be His time that Igo home, if
not - they'd have no chance to succeed regardless. Brothers. I have one brother I borrowed so much money from, he's like a human credit card. I go into a store with a picture of him and say, "You take Fred?" Sue Kolinsky Bill and Kath y S. On November 4, 2011 . (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-TONI. . Also we've noticed since Chicago's meeting in 2009, Chuck mentioned a destroying spirit over the city. He also mentioned in various newsletters a destroying spirit eventually over the church where the young man, 1 think about 18
Page 6 The Staff& Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Bill andKath y On November 4 2011.(Quote continue years old, died. The church['s] young members had been victims ofthe destroying spirit, with its tentacles extending into the (some) young members of this church. Have you not noticed all the recent cases of cancer? (Or is it just Kathy and I?) We've lost a cousin, our brother-in-law is now in chemotherapy, Kathy's aunt; we've been praying for David-DANIEL Squires. When I had my colon removed and was walking into the office, a man in the lobby of my surgeon was on the phone, checking with his insurance company on how his coverage would pay for colon cancer surgery. All the nurses were leaving this practice because the stress of dealing with case after case was too much to bear. My nurse had to train many new nurses, and said it was too heavy a load, with everyone being diagnosed. This was July 2010; she had said two years earlier, there was a huge spike in cases of cancer. All the doctors were even saying "what's up—what's going on?" She was a great nurse—loved the Lord, and the surgeon was a great guy to work for, she said! After my second surgery to remove the stoma bag opening, she quit too! I' m tying in my recent findings when I had my colon removed, with the spirit having tentacles; do you think there is a connection—a destroying spirit? Possibly could it also be a judgment/troubles scenario, part of a plan by the enemy, [and] allowed by the church? [I'm] Not saying there is a curse on each person due to their lives and past sin or inherited curses from generations before. And I'm not accusing our cousin, brother-in-law, Kathy's aunt, or David-DANIEL Squires of any wrongdoing. I know that Satan has a short time, but man, it's getting sorta overwhelming with all the cases of cancer. You always send a thank you with any donation; would you please give an opinion, even [a reply of] I don't know is a good answer. Kathy's mom's passing away has led us to more money, coming in. We will keep sending you more for our tithing on it, as it comes in. Your ministry is so very well deserving, we wish we could give more, and we will! Love in Jesus Christ's Name." (Unquote) Comment by Chuck-JOHNEL: When those you love and know are afflicted with
troubles, illness, disease and many die, the question is asked, "Why? Did they do anything to deserve it?! What is going on?" This is not one of those one answer fits all situations ", for depending on the circumstances of ones life, it can vary widely. I have diabetes and was afflicted with that in 1994. JESUS told me that He would
heal me, but He did not say when. In my case, this disease was more the result of attacks on inc by brethren, an accumulation oJ'violence and injury that caused deep wounding in the soul and that surfaced as diabetes. The agency was the church and brethren who prayed for my death who also worked with Christ authority and by that loosed demonic attacks on inc.
Page 7 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 nentby Chuck-JOHNEL(continued): I well remember being given to over hear Lucifer talking to his demon princes about me when he said, "Keep hitting him until he bleeds to death." Diabetes is a blood disorder, and the vehicle the enemy used was the hatred and condemnation brethren had for me. Brethren became agents of death aimed at me. I 'm still alive, in that they failed, but I've been hit, no doubt of that. Coin
There is a simple known spiritual fact/reality that "we are one body", if one rejoices all rejoice and likewise, if' one becomes subject to attacks of the enemy through brethren who misuse Christ authority, then we ALL become subject to such attacks. The sore absence of Agape Love in the body of Christ is the single most serious sin at work in the church today and it's opened all of us to the enemy in many ways. To violate JESUS 11''' Commandment ("Love one another!') is that sin. The Media likes to attack the church in every way possible, via news (TV, Radio and Newspapers-Magazines.) as well as in the Hollywood medium (Movies). All this encourages, even incites brethren to denounce, judge and attack each other. In the upcoming spiritual battle (1987-2012) we will be working to separate ourselves from those that do this - they will then reap in , full measure what they have sown. The time granted there in these past years was mercy and grace, an opportunity to repent and get right with God before it falls on them. This is all I can say right now. My brother gave me his Pinto [carj, but he neglected to tell me one thing: it doesn't handle well on pavement. Christine Crosby Anonymous ojn
December 5. 2011. (Quote) "Dear Chuck-JOHNEL and Nancy-
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TONI, I an praying the new prayers you sent. But for the first time, I am having trouble understanding what it is we are praying for, when it comes to foundation . The
Lord has yet to let me know for what purpose He has called me; therefore, what my life and work will be, which I am founding upon Jesus Christ. He continues to tell me that He will let me know soon, the work which He has called me to do. I just turned 63 years old. I am being patient. Are the spiritual foundations that we are laying down for our life, and work, the same spiritual foundations we are laying down for our green pastures? Or, are these different foundations?
Page S The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Anonvnzous on December 5, 2011. (Quote continued) I am shocked to learn that
I have been sinning my whole life because I never knew I needed to ask the Lord to give me His Agape . He has always told me that He loves me. And, I have told Him that I want to love Him the same way. Was I asking for agape then?" (Unquote) Repl► , hy_Chuck-JOHNEL_. Yes, the spiritual foundations that we are laying down are the same we are laying down for the green pastures. Concerning "Agape Love" we are talking about a God Love, something He does/is,
unconditional, boundless, wide open, something beyond normal human understanding until you have experienced it. It so happens that Nancy-TON] is writing an article for this Newsletter that addresses this subject, so the answer to your question is in her article (enclosed). I own a car that only two people can lit in. I am living the Mexican dream. George Lopez
Katherine S. On (no date). (Quote) "...Question: You and your group have been successful [in] uncovering terrorist attacks. Why do you not pray about these domestic terrorists that are raping and abusing innocent ones, massively throughout this country? You talk about an evil cover-up! They are destroying these precious ones everywhere. They—these occultists—are truly wolves in sheep's clothing. They are infiltrators; and are all the pillars of the churches and communities. They are the Congress, and judges, lawyers, and doctors. This society is crawling with them. I work with survivors of this Holocaust. I think of the recent Penn State expose. Perhaps this is the start of something big? I believe Mystery Babylon is the Occult system that has been riding the Beast, as bad as the Beast (rise of anti-Christ) might be. It looks like it will overthrow the occult (ruling system) which has been nothing short of slaughter for believers and innocent ones. And, reign of alai-Christ will be short-lived, and not thousands of years. It has not been a fair playing-field. I wonder if this overthrow of the Harlot will level the playing field. Are not the WorthyRighteous, and the innocent Lambs, going to go through the impassable mountains" into another dimension? It sounds like anti-Christ will then be a clean-up operation anyway." (Unquote) Response by JOHNEL: We recently sent out a warning with a call to prayer to about 500 pastors and media (TV, Radio, Newspapers). JESUS would tell me that out of a potential poll of 60, 000 Christians who could have prayed only 126 did pray. The Net ofPrayer had already weighed in (prayed/been praying) so that little bit of
Page 9 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Response b y JOHNEL(continued): extra prayer got us more time, a delay in judgment and a little lessening of the actual judgment when it comes. JESUS also said that this situation (126 out of 60, 000) was representative of'the whole church in America. Those praying are only a very sfnall fraction of the whole, so small it does not even register as 1% of the whole. This is the problem in a nut shell - the church is, "absent without/cave." The 500+ Intercessors of the Net of Prayer represent a certain level of "prayer power " and it just goes so , far. We follow JESUS'S lead and direction, knowing this is the best use and application of that limited level of prayer power. There are other prayer organizations but they too have limited prayer power. In the last Newsletter we sent out to everyone the new p rayer sheets which by design are helping God 's people to center on and in JESUS CHRIST and to pray in
foundations for the green pastures. These new p rayer sheets (enclosed) prepare the N. Q.P. and as many that will join with us for a major battle in The Spirit ' doing a second time what was done in the GAP in 1987. The enemy is gathering all of its
power to break us and get at God's people whom we cover and protect. You asked: "Are not the Worthy-Righteous, and the innocent Lambs, going to go
through the impassable mountains" into another dimension? " No, they will be led to safe places within the continental U.S. and Canada where they will be sustained and learn how to know JESUS personally and intimately. The vast majority of God's people submitted to godless pastors who have given them over to the Beastman of antiChrist, these will be slaughtered. The killing has not begun yet. We cannot help them as they are in submission to the Beastman through their godless pastors, nor would they heed any warning (nor have they). They are as JESUS said back in 1979, "A DEAD PEOPLE ALREADY BECAUSE OF UNBELIEF." I have one of those real old American-built cars. The kind that just punches through accidents. Jim Samuels Note by Ghuck-JOHNEL: We receive many loving notes and wanted to share some of them with you here and now. These encourage us as we go along in Christ.
Page 10 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Mar S. On Christinas 2011. ( Quote) "Greetings at this wonderful time of the year. As I ponder over the almost 15 years of receiving your materials, I appreciate the most, your tnie Iove of the Lord Jesus (If you love Him, you obey Him, and I know you do), and the understanding of the Cross in your lives. I've been refreshed to see bits and pieces of the legacy of some of the "Great Cloud of Witnesses", shining through your writings. I can see that the Lord matured its in some of the same ways. I pray for the true increase of God, on your lives this season, and in the coming year." (Unquote) I'm having car problems. My "check engine" light came on today. I couldn't check it, there was too much smoke in the way. Then the "game over" light came on. I hadn't seen that one before. Dobie Maxwell
Virginia K.
Christmas 2011 . (Quote) "Blessed Greeting G to all, both far and near. Well, we made it safely through another year. I'll try not to burden you with a long letter to read, in the busiest of holidays, that's not what you need. My life is happy, healthy and richly blessed by friends, family and activities—all the best. Mall walks each day to keep me active and fit, then games at the Senior Center allow me to sit. The meals there are good and nourishing, too. So life is made easy in all that I do. My family is growing ... more every year. We're 31 and counting. . all are so dear. Eight little "greats" to add to the pleasure, so precious and sweet. . jewels to treasure. That's about all, now that wasn't so bad, right? Took hardly a minute to be put out of sight. May you be blessed with peace and much love from OUT Father. Who loves us from heaven above. And may He guard and keep you safe in His care, through all of your days, as His love you share. Good health and contentment are wishes too. Be gentle and kind—it comes back to you. Love and Best Wishes." (Unquote) I've finally got a car that turns heads. Mostly because of the knocking, rattling, and backfiring. Reno Goodale Yvonne J. 4nd aril on Christmas 2011. (Quote) "Dear brother Chuck-JQI-JNEL and sister Nancy-TGNI. Jesus loves you both so much, me too, and I want to thank God for your faithfulness and dedication to all God has placed in your lives. I'm glad
Page II The Staff& Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Yvonne J. And family on Christmas 2011. (Quote continued ) I've had the privilege to be part of Net of Prayer. Praise Jesus. Anyway, God Bless you, and thanks again, for everything. Keep on and take good care of one another. Thanks for all your love and prayers, my prayer to all. And again, I can't express all that is needed - He has your rewards also in Heaven. You're so blessed, and more to come from Jesus to you and yours. May the Lord God Bless your going and returning." (Unquote) I bought a generic cat. It only had five lives. Buzz Nutley Gretel-R4PHAEL on December 8, 2011. (Quote) "Dear JOHNEL and TONI, The last few years I have wanted a well. A lot of the homeowners in our subdivision "Woodbine Springs Plantation" have their own wells hooked up to their lawn sprinkler systems. We have a large lake in the middle of the subdivision, and it is fed by Springs. After getting water bills each month this summer, running $150 or more, I finally talked my husband into getting our own well dug. One of my neighbors had his well dug in 2000. This year, he decided he wanted to add a hand pump to his well. He gave me the name of the business that had dug his well, and added his hand pump. I told my husband we could get a well dug and get a hand pump added all at once. He agreed! I contacted the owner of the business that had dug my neighbor's well and added his hand pump. He came out to look over our land, to see where the best place was, to drill a well. He picked a spot in our back yard, [and] told me it would take a few months to order all the parts for the hand pump. But, since he had put in a hand pump at my neighbor's house, he knew where to orderthe parts. [He] told me he put in a lot of wells and hand pumps in 1999-2000, because of the Y2K business, but no one was asking for hand pumps anymore, [and] that the parts were getting harder to find. He said he would call and let us know when he had all the parts, and was ready to drill our well. Meanwhile, I got the newsletter where we were to start praying in our Green Pastures in the Spirit, first, before they were in this world. I told Jesus that when the man called me back and told me he was ready to start drilling my well, that I would know I had "water" in my spiritual Green Pastures. The man called us on November 21, 2011, Monday, and said he was going to go get a permit to drill the well. Two men showed up on Tuesday morning November 22" d , to start digging the well. They hit an old septic tank, which was not in use. The previous owners of my house had
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Gretel-RAPHAEL on December 8, 20 1 1. (Quote continued ) connected to the city system. They moved the drill and started again. They came back on Wednesday morning, November 23"i , to finish my well. They went down 90 feet. They came back Monday morning, November 28'", 2011 to hook up the well to the sprinkler
system, and add my hand pump. They even added a faucet for me, so I can hook up a garden hose to water plants, or wash our cars. Now, I don't have to use city water for outside use. The water from the spring is better then the tap water coming out [of] my faucets in my house! I have my water in my Green Pasture in the Spirit! The man did want to know why I wanted a hand pump so badly. Bust told him that the state of Georgia is always saying they will turn off the rivers that flow into Florida, to keep their own water in their state. Now, I have my own water. He said in five years, I will still have water, that I won't need the hand pump. I told him just to remember that "crazy lady in Pace who had to have her hand pump, [and] has her own water because of her hand pump! I already told Jesus that whomever He sends to me for water, during the bad times, I will give there water. My neighbor with his hand pump told me not to tell anyone we have a hand pump, or we'd have 400 people in our yards, wanting water. My neighbor is not a Christian, but I am, so I will share with the ones Jesus sends to me. Just thought you'd like to know that Jesus has answered my prayer. I have water!" (Unquote) Michael Jackson's baby said his first word: "Help!" Jay Leno
Elaine C. On Christmas 2011 . (Quote) "I don't know what the new year holds, personally for me, but I know who holds the future and He loves us. Thank you for your news and updates. I know they take a lot of work and energy." (Unquote) I was such an ugly kid. When I played in the sandbox, the cat kept covering me up. Rodney DangerfieId
Greg on no date . ( Quote) "I'm Greg G., Beautiful Branch Net of Prayer member. Recently, a friend of mine sent me an einaiI with the attached portion of one of Chuck's newsletters:
"In September of 1983 God the Father shewed me the accidental nuclear exchange between Russia and the U.S. and at the end of the vision, He showed me the month of "December" as the time of year when this would happen. In 1989 Jesus told me that George Bush would be president at the time of the accidental nuclear attack. At no time did the Lord reveal what year this would happen." From:
Page 13 The Staff& Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 2U, 2012 Greg on(no date). datejjQuote continued) The Staff and Sword Ministry Newsletter,
dated December 13, 2000, pages 16-18. My friend wants to know what happened. We have not been attacked by nuclear weapons and George Bush is no longer president. Please explain, if you can, this disparity, as I pretty much follow what Chuck says the Lord tells him; but this is hard to explain to my friend, as it has not happened. Unless, of course, somehow,
George Bush becomes president again, I don't see how this can happen now. What do I tell my friend?" (Unquote)
Replyy b y Chuck-JOHNEL: It was my mistake. Back in the years of 1988 and 1989 JESUS told me that President George Bush would build an anti-ballistic missile defense system. George H. Bush, then President, did NOT do that. At this time, 1989, I had the view that this accidental nuclear exchange would happen in the President's second term, towards the end of it (7 f ^' or 8 t`' year of office). That belief/knowing is what I expressed in that December, 2000 Newsletter. At NO TIME did JESUS actually say that President George Bush would be in office at the time of the accidental nuclear attack - this was something I had come to believe. There are three basic forms of insight: (1) GOD'S WORD - 100% reliable. (2) A
KNOWING by the HOLY SPIRIT stands at about 90% reliable* and (3) BELIEF or WHAT I THINK, and this is the least reliable - generally 50150 reliability. *Note: The wrench in the works is the sou fish nature that tends to add its views into the picture, thus reliability drops significantly. Generally, I preface my statements with either GOD'S WORD, A KNOWING or WHAT I BELIEVE_
Now, when I quote JESUS' WORD I always show it in capitals and in bold to distinguish it from the normal text and from my personal beliefs/understandings. In 2000 1 was working against a deadline and had researched much of His Word (shown in that Newsletter - again in Capitals and in Bold) but decided to nun on memory of what He said in 1989 and did not check it out, which meant I would need
to read through the whole Word of 1989. When George W. Bush won the Presidency in 2000 one of the first things he did was to have an anti-ballistic missile defense system built (which we have today). The way
Page 14 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Reply b y Chuck-JOHNVEL (continued): it works is the way JESUS shewed me in
1983, where we had some kind of system that smashed nuclear warheads in space. In 2000 President Bush built just such as system - which confirmed what He showed me in 1983. I held to the "belief" that President George W. Bush would be President when the accidental nuclear attack happened. However, two things emerged that brought me to re-think this belief. (1) It was evident that the judgment was still a little time off and that the accidental nuclear happening at this time was too soon, and (2) I'd always been troubled by what kind of man would fire three nukes back at Russia, knowing it was an accident on Russia's part and knowing that doing such a thing would set in motion events that could, even would, lead to an all out nuclear war. Observing George W. Bush for a number of years told me that he was NOT the kind of man who would fire three nuclear bombs at Russia because they accidentally nuked four of our cities. He would understand the implications of such an action and would not open the door to nuclear world war III. For that reason, in George W. Bush's 7 t '' year as President, I recognized that President G. W. Bush would NOT shoot back at Russia. That told me it would NOT happen in his term of office. I stated that plainly in George W. Bush's 7 t 째' and S` h year in office. I perceive (that is both a knowing and a belief) that this Beastman Obama is just the kind of man who would do such a thing. His mission from hell is to destroy America. Doing that would accomplish it - destroy America! My mistake in 2000 was that I did not read through JESUS' WORD of 1989, if I had I would have corrected my belief, seeing it was wrong. In the last day I re-read the December, 2000 Newsletter and found NO WORD stating that Bush would be President during the accidental nuclear attack. But I did see my "belief' in the report, but that was not JESUS' Word. Leith helped me and read through the 1989 Word to confirm what I now know - JESUS never said that. My mistake. My childhood was kind of a blur, to tell you the truth. I needed better glasses. Wendy Liebman
Page 15 The Staff& Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Ann S. On Christ nas 2011 . (Quote) "P. S. N-T: I have j List reread Manifesting Christ again (3` d or 4`'' [reading] time). With each reading. I seem to be getting more "meat" to chew on! You are a true spiritual mother. . thank you! Thank you both so very much for your work in the LORD-you will never
know this side of Heaven how much you have impacted me, and my walk with Christ." (Unquote) Having children gives your life purpose. Right now my purpose is to get some sleep. Reno Goodale Don & Marlene M. On Christmas 2011 . ( Quote) "Dear Chuck & Nancy, Thank you for all your prayers & phone calls to Laurie. We continue to keep all the Colville helpers in our prayers. What a blessing each & everyone of you are, to Jesus' Body (NN OP)." (Unquote) What I don't like about office Christmas parties is looking for a job the next day. Phyllis Diller .lack & Sara oni Christmas 2011 . (Quote) "Dear Chuck & Nancy, Pray you are physically much better and things are going well. We wish you a blessed Christmas, as well, and pray your health will be stronger in the new year." (Unquote) My morn always says, "Keep your chin up." That's how I ran into the door. Daryl Hogue Dale W. On Christmas 2 011 . ( Quote) "Thank God Jesus lives, and He lives in His
people. And thank you, for being true to Him, and being strong in Him, and leading His people in these days, in a nation that seems to be growing darker day by day. But, He is, and He is that bright light and morning star, that hope, and that strength for those that look to Him. Thank you, and God Bless." (Unquote) You can't have everything; where would you put it? Steven Wright
Nancy R. On Christmas 2011 . (Quote) "Thank you for being true and faithful to
your callings! I have grown and been blessed many times over by you, and now doors are opening to pass those blessings on. Hallelujah!" (Unquote Q: Did Eve ever have a date with Adam? A: No, most people think it was an apple.
Page 16 The Staff& Sword Minis try/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Ivan & Ann on Christmas 2011 . (Quote) "Chuck-JORNEL & Nancy-TONI: Good
to hear from you, still reading the reports and praying the prayers daily. I can't help but agree with you, Chuck, on a no rapture stand for two reasons: The scripture, late in Revelations where Satan seeks to "weary the saints" and take the saints out of this world (what Satan longs for!). And, not only would total chaos rule, but who would lead the lost to Christ, one on one?" (Unquote) You can't get good Chinese takeout in China, and Cuban cigars are rationed in Cuba. That's all you need to know about communism. P.J. O'Rourke Leith L. On January 3, 2012. (Quote) "ABIDING EXPERIENCE: I was with Jesus
Christ, and could see Him. In the past, He's shown Himself in 3 different appearances tome (human-looking form—yet a Spirit; a light form—crystal and bright white radiating immensely; and once with huge wings and human-like appearance). Today, He was in light-form, but He allowed me to see Him in a brighter form than ever before, that sometimes I don't think my soul could've handled. He was the color of crystal & white light, piercing, but not painful to my eyes. Actually, it's a different color than we've seen on earth (there are more colors in Heaven). I plead the Blood of Jesus over Him, to make sure it was Jesus. It was. Jesus showed me the crystal sea, He said. (I have heard of it, I thought in the Bible, but couldn't remember anything about it). I told God that I didn't know anything about it, and I asked Jesus to tell me about it. I asked Jesus, what if I research it later, and find it's something different than what He's showing me now. God told me to have faith, and believe Him and what IIe's showing/telling me about it. He said the crystal sea is where you (spiritually drink, and) mainly get full of the Holy Spirit, and things of Jesus that you need. Jesus told me most people alive haven't seen it, but that you can during abiding. (I think you see it when you have passed away from earth, usually, if Jesus wants you to). I told Jesus I wanted to be filled; and at first, Jesus wanted me to get filled with Him—by coming to Jesus Himself, not by the crystal sea (I knew I could be filled similar with Jesus). But then we walked over to the crystal sea and I can't remember how I got filled, I just remember I did, but not how. I saw a beautiful non-earthly color of extreme piercing and beautiful blue, but I can't remember if it was the sea or the sky. I think it was the sea, but...? I asked Jesus to tell me about the Father. He said I've seen/known Him in Jesus, but went on to tell me of Father God's mercy and righteousness. Then Jesus said God has created many of His children, like the numbers of the stars (I believe
Page 17 The Staff& Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Leith L. One January 3, 2012. ("ABIDING EXPERIENCE" Quote continued) it was implied more than just earth's people), but that He loves us all so much, as in Jesus, and like His own children. He desires us and wants to share Jesus with us, and we share ourselves with Jesus. Jesus told me of how Father God didn't want Jesus to have to go through what He did for us on earth, but yet also knew it was necessary, and pleasing to God to save His children. God assured me that Jesus was so full of Him during His walk on earth, that Jesus could endure what He did (although death was painful in Jesus taking our sins, I believe). I asked Jesus how I can be helpful to Him and His work, and asked Him to fulfil that in me. 1 know He will. Jesus and I spent more time talking of things, but I didn't write it down until many hours later, and have forgotten things. Anyways, the main importance is that I spent time with Jesus, and I'm sure my spirit-man remembers all He shared with me. ..God is so wonderful. Also, I asked Jesus what is so good about living forever in Heaven. He said the "JOY OF THE LORD". I asked what is that. Found out it's 100% pure , Holy, and i mmeasurable love—God loving us this way, and us experiencing/loving this way also." (Unquote) A young couple was talking to a pastor about joining his church. The minister asked from what church they were transferring their membership. When the young man hesitated, his wife spoke up for him: "Froin the municipal golf course." Susan F. On Decein her 4, 20 1 1. (Quote) "Dear James, I believe that "not wanting
to hear from another prophet", is .just one of the problems with the body of Christ. We all want to believe that what we heard is true and everything else probably isn't. It is ti me and past time that all "denominations" drop the divisions. This is one of illy pet "peeves", I suppose. But the first church didn't have these divisions at first, they shared all things, prayed about all things to find out if they were true. No one, (especially me) has the whole truth, and if truth be known, Nita probably has a piece of truth, as does Chuck and the rest of them. Chuck has said that he couldn't take in everything that was shown him, but he took what the Lord would have him remember at the time. Nita probably has the same thing. Plus, for all of us, remember what Abraham did for Sodom and Gomorrah, or at least tried to do. He "argued" for them, asking if there were even just 10 people, would the Lord spare the whole for the 10. The Lord agreed! Of course, there weren't 10, and the 4 had to flee; but even then,
Page 18 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Susan F. On December 4, 2011. (Quote continued ) the Lord spared the 4 BEFORE destroying the cities. Personally, and this is truly personally, if everything waits until the 2012 election, or at the end of 2012, then it may be that Obama get re-elected. If it falls before the election, then we may have martial law. Either way, this nation is under judgment. Even if Obatna is thrown out, the one who replaces him will probably be under the same awful spirit, and not the Lord's. Chuck has told us that we are not to pray for this nation anymore, it's what Jesus told him. I can well understand Nita's hope against hope that it may not be too late, that the whole nation of Christians—those who profess to be saved through Jesus—will repent, think again and take it now. realize that we are not listening nor hearing what our Lord is saying, and repent. I pray that we all come together and pray, asking what Jesus would have us do, together, as it should be. I pray this is not considered a slam against anyone. Who in this world, could remember everything that Jesus showed Chuck or anyone? He remembers exactly what the Lord would have him remember, and the rest is probably hazy, and [that's] a good thing, too. From what he has said, it was so awful, it probably would have taken his life and then where would any of us be? I would not want to be in ChuckJOHNEL's shoes, he has an awful responsibility, and has been hurt by so many. He has helped me in so many ways with his love of us, the whole ministry's love of us. I have not followed what others are saying, other than to notice that many of them are speaking the same judgments that Chuck-JOT-IN EL has told us of To me, they are all blending into the same voice, which is showing that the time is now here, and the only hope we have is the same one we always have had, Jesus and Him alone. I pray a time is coming that all with agree in spirit, and stand together, all praying in one accord; His will, His way. Then watch out! We will be one body. God bless!" (Unquote) "Mommy?" asked a little girl attending her first wedding. "If he is really the best man, why isn't the bride marrying him instead?" Beth P. No date) (Quote) "Dear Chuck John-EL, As to Satan being Adam—(you
mentioned this again in the 2 CD of March 27, 2011). I wouldn't even listen to your reasonings if I hadn't somewhere read that the Lord showed you that. I trust your ability to discern the Lord! Other than that, its not worth discussing. Every ministry and ministry-leader out there has some intriguing theory about something. Even reputable leaders/ministries have theories that contradict each other. And as to the scriptures,
Page 19 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Beth P. (No date (Quote continued) they don't seem to me to come right out and
say that Adam never availed himself of that Sacrifice offered him symbolically by the animal skin God put on him and Eve. I'd always expected to meet Adam, the first man, and earthly father of us all. Now I'm sad to think that just can't be—that the Lord showed you he didn't just represent our universal sin nature, but that he rebelled against God and never repented ! It's really hard to know that. It's so sad. Please don't get too hung upon people understanding that. Likely only frontline prayer warriors really can be benefitted from knowing it'? While it disheartens me to really receive that info about Adam, it does explain (now that I'm paying attention to the info and not just brushing it aside) how dangerous it is to be first (as Lucifer was in the Heavenly realm? The highest archangel?), and to have it good, and to be so blessed. If we didn't have suffering, and Adam's example of sinning (in one way or another to one extent or another), we'd likely most of us fall into the same hopeless rebellion. I've rebelled, but God got me anyway, and He still has! There's a lot of me to get back into alignment. Well, both the I angel and the first man, rebelled irr econcilably against God? How sad! It's too tragic to think about. To also think of Adam living for centuries , having such a horrible influence on all the people til he died! It's amazing anyone died in faith, and lived in faith, in God. How about Eve? Oh, if it's bad, I don't want to know. I know about Nimrod (and Semiramis), thinking them the first really bad big influences, besides the devil. But oh, ifAdam has to be bad—to be Satan—ugh! It'd be horr ible to think Eve also the same. . Yet the promise of a Savior was to her (Eve). And she is charged with being deceived by the serpent, but Adam wasn't; he chose to cooperate with the lie, in
pride. I don't understand that, how he never repented, when he wore the skin of sacrifice, and had to live outside the garden. Oh, I don't want to think about it. You've got to understand, we haven't heard this ever before (til I read this in your writings.) And there are nut-cases out there thinking up nutty theories, er receiving wacky ones from fallen spirits. (Even Christians getting whacked out and telling wacky things about Adam
and Eve; like Branham, after he got a new announcer who fed his ego, he whacked out and spread a "truth" about Eve, having sex with a creature half-man/half-monkey; and the DNA from that union spreading throughout humanity with a seed of evil (not everyone inheriting that DNA). A nice couple, the husband having fasted 40 days and nights at one time, came to a neighborhood I lived in, hearing this info, in print. I was
Page 20 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Beth P. (No date) (Quote continued) sad they were believing this, but we've all
encountered similar. So people are worried about "strange" understandings of the Bible. They need time to test the Spirit, and (have to) have a reason to bother. I believe you live in purity, in true discernment in the Holy Spirit, at a level that assures me that if you say the Lord showed you about Adam, then it's true. (But I don't think I need to convince anyone else, unless the Lord opens the conversation to share with some prayer war r ior who can make use of the info). If you said it out of your own theorizing, I'd be highly skeptical; but as it is, I believe you. Sorry I'm writing too much. That's all." (Unquote) Chuck-JOHNEL's Conzments/Response: There are so many things I could comment on; but if anything, it is necessary to lay down some solid scriptural foundations first. Most Christians are taught what I'd call, "Basic child's stories" which are over simplifications of the Bible stories. Problem is that we are no longer children and we are still being fed milk in most churches. Under these circumstances there is no opportunity to grow in Christ as we can, as God designed we should; instead we stagnate, do not grow andfail to enter into God 's plan for us, forever standing at the door and never entering in. Many years ago a married couple joined the Ministry and after some months they told us plainly that although they'd served in the church for 30 years, held positions as deacons, that they'd never heard the things we were teaching. It was not that what we shared was unscriptural, it was; but that they had never been taught anything like this. When we talk about Adam and Eve we fail to understand the circumstances of their creation, of the place they lived in before the fall and how it relates to this day. Brethren have all sorts of ideas about they way things were that have little or no basis in scripture and get very upset when they hear something the tells them they do not understand the way it was and is in God's Creation. For example: When we see it written that Adam and Eve walked in the garden, do we know where that garden of Eden was and is? We assume it was somewhere on this earth and some have told inc that it was destro y ed by man 's wars. I 'd often ask
those who believe this a simple question, "How did men get past the Cherubim Angel with the flaming sword?" That would he impossible - no man could ever do
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is intact, and it is where it has always been. But where is that? The Middle East? If it were there, you 'd think someone might have seen it by now.
Look at Revelation 22: 2: "Through the middle of the broadway of the city; also on either side of the river, was the tree of life with its twelve varieties of fruit..." This is a description of'a Heavenly realm and clearly the Tree of Life is noted as being in the New Jerusalem and that is in Heaven, where it has always been. In the early years of the Ministry I had an encounter with the Apostle Paul who told inc that the key to understanding much of what was in the Book of Revelation can be .found in the Book of Genesis. This helped me see what realm Adam and Eve lived in before the fall. For example: We read in Genesis 1: 11-12 where God says, "Let the earth put forth vegetation...the earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed...trees bearing fruit.." Problem: It is NOT until verse 15-16 of Genesis I that we see God creating lights to give light upon the earth and where it says, "God made the two great lights — the greater light (the sun) to rule the day and the lesser light ((he moon) to rule the night." What is the problem? GOD makes His Laws and He does not violate His Laws. How can you have photosynthesis (plants growing) if you do not have a sun or sunlight? GOD does not create the sun and (noon until verse 15-16. Therefore, plants are growing, trees producing fruit but in darkness, no sunlight? It is impossible by God's Law. If today our sun would go out, turn black, no light, plants would stop growing. It is the wa y God created it. Then how did the plants on earth grow when there was no sunlight or moon at that time?
Revelation 21:23 "And the city has no need of the sun nor of the moon to give light to it, for the splendor and radiance (Glory) of God illuminate it, and the Lamb is its lamp." Answer: The Garden of Eden was on a Celestial, Heavenly earth, not the
Page 22 The Staff& Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Chuck-JOHNEL's Comm en ts/Res arse (continued) • terrestrial/physical realm we now live in. Plain fact is that Adorn and Eve were spiritual beings not physical, having celestial bodies and not the terrestrial bodies we have now. The Apostle Paul spoke of these "Celestial and Terrestrial " realms. I Corinthians 15: 40 "...but the beauty and glory of the heavenly bodies is of one kind, while the beauty and glory of earthly bodies is a different kind. " [Bodies terrestrial (earthly), bodies celestial (Heavenly).] Adam n and Eve were celestial beings having a_ form, the very likeness ofGod Himself' The physical bodies we inhabit have no hearing on God 's appearance whatsoever and are the "animal skins "spoken of in Genesis 3: 21 which were an extra creation move by God, fashioned to give Adam and Eve the means to exist in the terrestrial realm. Keep in mind that they were "spiritual beings " and in this physical world apart from the animals skins would be like ghosts, unable to live here. How much time passed from Genesis 1 to Genesis 3, when Adam was driven out of the Garden? Unknown. They existed in a celestial realm and billions of years could have passed before they fell. Beth writes: (Quote) "Yet the promise of a Savior was to her (Eve). And she is charged with being deceived by the serpent, but Adam wasn't; he chose to cooperate with the lie, in pride. I don't understand that, how he never repented, when he wore the skin of sacrifice, and had to live outside the garden." (Unquote) This drama is little understood because teaching in the church is so poor and childish. After the fall, the FIRST PERSON the Lord GOD came to was not Eve, but Adam. That tells us just who desired the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil - it was Adam. But he knew not to do it. His soul life, Eve, being lesser light than the man (Adam) was deceived. But the judgment of God on Eve was also this: "Yet your deli re and cravi ng wi I I be for your husband and he wi I I rule over you." (Genesis 3: 16 selection) This told me that Eve desired and craved for the forbidden fruit because her husband did, that being Adam. Adam, being husband and greater light, should have covered Eve and he could have p r evented the . fall. How?
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Adam and Eve were ONE FLESH (Genesis 2: 24). That was literal! Adam (man) was united with Eve (soul) and where ever he went she was there and where ever she went he was there. When the serpent (Lucifer) tempted Eve, Adam was right there at that moment, he could have intervened, he could have stopped the whole thing or at the least he could have covered his woman (soul) when she fell. He didn 't have to take the fruit, but he wanted it and when she offe red it to him he took it. Later he blamed Eve . for his sin, p r ide prevented him from doing anything like repenting. "The ski,, of sacri ice" In Genesis 3: 2] we read how God made coats of skins clothing Adam. There is no mention of there being an animal sacrifice. When I . first read the Bible I imagined that God took this hapless bear, sliced and diced it into a pant suit for Adain and dress for Eve. But then I was a baby Christian. When the HOLYSPIRIT began to teach me, I understood that the "coats ofskins "spoke of/he physical bodies we inhabit. It is a common comment among men who save their lives frorn some disaster to say, "I saved my skin! " Indeed, that is accurate, our physical bodies were an extra creation move by the Lord God for • our sakes, so we had some way of'living in this pjzvsical world. ADAMISSATAN- HEARING GOD Why is it of any value to know that Adam is Satan? Well, if you have no interest in growing past being saved, if } y ou have no desire to be Christ-like and do what Jesus did and even greater things (John 14), and to be able to hear GOD and know His Word and Will . for you, then maybe this is of little value. However, fyou want to grow in Christ, this is important to know. Why? When we are born into this world we are horn through fallen Adam, we inherit his fallen nature and he is our spiritual , father. That is a plain , fact. When we become Christian we are adopted as sons of God through JESUS CHRIST we have a true Father, FATHER GOD. However, that does not mean that our former _father, fallen AdamlSatan, will not try to talk to us, to mislead us, to deceive us and lead us in paths of unrighteousness.
When believers begin to move `In The Spirit' they will begin to hear God speak to them. But sometimes the `father " speaking to them is fallen Adam/Satan and we are
Page 24 The Staff & Sword Ministry/WE GET LETTERS January 20, 2012 Chuck-JOHNEL's Coin iii ents/Responise (continued): ill equipped (being unaware) to either recognize that or to know what to do about it. Satan can have sway in our spiritual lives because we have an innate recognition of him as being 'our father' ('which he was before we received Christ). I have seen Christians go off into ungodly behavior because they follow the lead of a "lather " that leads them into a life of sin. Thinking it is "Father God " they have their spiritual lives devastated. I well understand why some Godly pastors reject, even resist,
brethren who begin to move 'In The Spirit ' and begin hearing fi-oin the Lord God — they have seen too many who do this go
off the deep end destroying their spiritual lives in the
process. Even though a brother or sister does not go off the deep end, if they are unaware they can be led by that evil spirit, Adam/Satan, thinking they are doing God a service info/lowing that 'father. Learn ingto discern the difference between "father AdanzlSatarz "and "FATHER GOD" is vital if one is to grow in Christ and be conformed to His likeness and image. This is why I have shared this revelation. If it were something of no value in the bigger picture and just a bit of controversial information I would not share it. But it is of value for • those who want to he more Christ-like, to grow in Christ and be like Hinz. Q: What season was it when Eve ate the fruit? A: Early in the fall. Return to the letter from Greg on (no date). (Panes 12-13) Leith researched the record of 1989 and told inc no mention was made there about Bush being President during the accidental nuclear attack. Again, I was mistaken, having assumed something without checking it. I did later and saw my mistake and corrected it. The mistake was on page 18 of the December 13, 2000 Newsletter (2"` r paragraph} where I stated: (Quote) "In 1989 JESUS told ine that George Bush would be President at the time of the accidental nuclear attack..."(Unquote) Again, this was an assumptionfbelief based on what I remembered of His Word in 1989. I should have spent the hour to double check it (read through the 1989 Word) but pressed for time I let it stand. That was my mistake, JESUS never said that. it was my fault entirely. End of WE GET LETTERS. When I was a kid I got no respect. I told my mother, "I'm gonna run away from h ome." She said, "On your mark..." Rodney Dangerfield