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Table of Contents The Archers’ Jamboree

National Tournament Tackle .

Toledo, Ohio, Tournament

And How? By Donald AL Cola

Japanese Archery Tournament By IV. O. Denison

Causes of Variation in Arrow Weight By W. O. Robinson . ...___

Direct Action vs. Politics

The Pistol vs. The Bow By W. P. Rheingan

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The Archers’ Jamboree Probably not since the days of Rob in Hood has such another group of archers been gathered together as met on the Lower Rogue river, Curry county, Oregon, for the Archers’ Jam boree at the beginning of the deer season, September 15th, 1930. Don’t ask me what a jamboree is supposed to be because I can’t tell you but I’ll try to describe this one. For several years a number of arch ers have dreamed dreams of locating an ideal hunting ground where a group of lusty bowmen could be gath ered together for a hunt and general good time; where one could stalk deer in sylvan wilds and possibly loose a shaft or two at one of the fleet roe buck; where we could gather round the camp fire at night and, as the moonlight filtered through the leaves overhead and the hooting of the owls put us in the proper melancholy mood could tell our wondrous tales of bow and shaft. And last spring came reports of the

promised land. Like the Israelites of old we sent scouts to spy out the land and like the spies of old they came back with wondrous tales. Sixtytwo deer in one meadow by actual count. An ideal camping site. Ex cellent fishing nearby. And, best of all, no gun hunters in a ten thousand acre tract. It sounded too good to be true, but nevertheless it attracted twenty-five archers from four states who assem bled September 13th in a beautiful camp ground at the mouth of Lobster creek eight miles from the mouth of the Rogue river. They were: Roy Case, all the way from Racine, Wisconsin; Dr. “Dusty” Roberts, L. T. Coke and Earle Gard ner, who came from Ventura, Califor nia, in Gardner’s bungalow on wheels; Kore T. Duryee, Tom Belshaw, S. B. Hayden, Dr. and Mrs. Ralph West and J. J. Hensley of Seattle; J. H. McCaughan and R. N. Underwood of Olympia, Washington; and the Ore-

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gon delegation, consisting of Dr. Cathey and Homer Prouty of Port land, Winnie Kennedy of Albany, Har ry Hobson of Lyons, B. G. Thompson and J. E. Davis of Corvallis, Earl and Mrs. Ullrich of Roseburg, John Stone and Grover Gouthier of Coquille. Rev. L. L. Daily of Monmouth and Lowell Eddy of Independence were wrecked on the way and had to return home. Oh, yes, I almost forgot Stan Spencer. He is never to be forgotten but it is

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experienced hikers who reached camp late in the afternoon and paid their respects to George the cook’s first offerings. It will be impossible on account of lack of space to give many details of the jamboree. However, the promise of the spies were fulfilled except in the matter of deer. Evidently they had left the open prairies where they were in the spring and were in the brush where even occasional glimpses

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“Paid their respects to George the Cook's first offerings.” hard to tell where he is from and I didn’t have him listed according to residence. The next day, September 14th, we began our pack to the top of Lobster mountain where camp was pitched in the heart of the supposed deer coun try. We went up 1248 feet in the first mile and a quarter, so figure it out for yourselves whether we climbed or not. Kore Duryee wanted to get on ahead to be out of the way of the pack horses but soon found the pack horses treading on his heels and was glad to give them the trail.

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were hard to get because the fallen leaves and twigs were so dry that “still” hunting was a misnomer. Hunting was good but killing was very poor. The fact that in spite of the scarcity of game there was no complaining or “crabbing” only helps to prove our contention that an arch er’s love of hunting is not a blood lust but a love of Nature — a primeval urge. As in Bold Robin’s forest camp, our archers indulged in various sports and contests, some intentionally and some unintentionally. Dr. Cathey won the (Continued on Page 14)

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TS[ational Tournament Tackle By Earl L. Ullrich, Roseburg, Oregon Believing that it would interest readers and archers in general in learning the details of the tackle used at a championship meet, the writer made such a survey at the National Tournament in Chicago. Many of the archers were contacted personally, but it was necessary to correspond with a few, to learn full particulars. Since this article is in no manner an adver tisement, it was deemed best to elim inate all manufacturer’s names, and deal only with materials used, weights and points of aim. Mrs. Audrey Grubbs of Los An geles, Calif., national woman’s cham pion, used a 28-pound yew wood bow. Shooting 23 inch footed Port Orford cedar arrows, weighing 265 grains, her point of aim was 15 feet in front of the 60-yard target. The same tackle was in use throughout the meet. Mrs. Elizabeth Rounsevelle of Pine hurst, N. C., generally shoots a yew wood bow, but tackle was lost in transit to Chicago and other equip ment was substituted. The bow used was a 5 foot 6 inch lemonwood weigh ing 30 pounds. Footed Norway Pine aiTows, 27 inches in length, weighing 345 grains were used, with a point of aim at the foot of the rear target leg at 60 yards. The same tackle was shot at all ranges. Miss Dorothy Duggan of Green wich, Connecticut, depends upon a 30 pound yew wood bow. Using 26%inch footed Norway Pine arrows, weighing 4 shillings or approximately 345 grains, her point of aim was on the target at the 60 yard range. The same equipment was shot throughout the tournament. Mrs. Estelle Leopold of Madison,

Wisconsin, shooting in her first na tional tournament, used a five and one-half foot yew bow weighing 32 pounds. Shooting 27 inch footed Port Orford Cedar arrows weighing ap proximately 275 grains, at the 60 yard target, her point of aim was at the 40 yard line. A 28 pound bow was used at the lesser distances. Mrs. Beatrice Hodgson of San Pedro, Calif., a veteran at national tournaments, uses a 32 pound yew bow, five and a half feet in length. On the 60 yard range, shooting foot ed fir arrows, 2514 inches in length and weighing 320 grains, her point of aim was at the 40 yard line. The same equipment was used throughout the meet. Betty Gene Hunt of Los Angeles, Calif., intermediate girl’s champion, uses a 29 pound yew bow and 27 inch footed Port Orford Cedar arrows, weighing 300 grains. Her point of aim was at the foot of target leg at 50 yards. Russ Hoogerhyde, of Michigan, na tional men’s champion, uses six foot laminated bamboo fibre backed bows entirely; on the 100 yard range, a 67 pound bow, with a point of aim on the gold, at the 80 yard range a 62 pound bow with a point of aim on the 40 yard line. For the American round distance a 54 pound bow was used. Self Port Orford Cedar arrows weigh ing 406 grains, and having six-inch steel insert running up the shaft from the pile, were used. E. L. Mould of Los Angeles, shoots a six-foot 48 pound bamboo backed yew bow. Footed Port Orford Cedar arrows weighing 385 grains, with point of aim on the target at 100

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yards. The same tackle was used throughout the tournament.

41-189; Henry Hankinson, Trilby, Si ll?.

Carl Thompson of Pinehurst, N. C., shooting a six foot 52 pound fibre backed lemonwood bow and footed Norway pine arrows weighing 415 grains had a point of aim at the base of the rear target leg at 100 yard tar get. The same equipment used throughout the meet. Clinton Douglas of Los Angeles, Calif., shoots a five foot, 10 inch, 43 pound yew bow. Arrows were footed Port Orford Cedar weighing 395 grains. With his equipment “Doug” had a point of aim 4 feet above the 100 yard target. Same tackle at all distances. C. H. Styles, of Berkeley, Calif., used a 42 pound yew bow and 29 inch footed spruce arrows weighing 350 grains. With this equipment his point was on the 100 yard target. Same tackle in use during the whole meet. Roy I. Chase, Jr., of Racine, Wis consin, intermediate boy’s champion, shot a 42 pound osage bow and 327 grain footed Port Orford Cedai- ar rows. His point of aim on the 80 yard range was at the 40 yard line. The same bow and arrows were used throughout the tournament.

Double American — Mattox, 159833; F. M. Grant. Findlay, 139-689; Hankinson, 142-670. Ladies’ Single National—Florence Cramer, Toledo, 39-159; Helen Cousino, Toledo, 35-159.

TOLEDO, OHIO, TOURNAMENT Reported by Mrs. Glenn S. Snow, Secretary The Toledo Archery club of Toledo, Ohio, has been in existence just about a year and has gone through the throes of roving and archery golf and is now trying to develop marksman ship. On August 31 and September 1 a tournament was held. The best scores in the various events were as follows: York round—William Mattox, To ledo, 88-380; Guy Tressler, Toledo,

Double Columbia — Helen Cousino, 128-654; Mary Mattox, Toledo, 111535; Florence Cramer, 104-494. Double Junior American — George Gilliotte, Trilby, 107-491; Richard Pfund, Toledo, 99-462. Men’s Clout (24 arrows at 180 yards)—Walter Cousino, Toledo, 1456; William Mattox, 15-49; H. L. Haye, Toledo, 18-40. Ladies’ Clout (24 arrows at 120 yards)—Mary Mattox, Toledo, 16-64; Helen Cousino, 6-28. Junior Clout (24 arrows at 120 yards) — George Gilliotte, 11-39; Richard Pfund, 2-2. Flight—H. L. Haye, 270 yards, 6 inches; Florence Cramer, 200 yards, 3 inches; Richard Pfund, 171 yards.

“TELL IT TO THE MARINES” From J. B. Wallace, Alameda, Cal. U. S. Marines at the Navy Mine Base, Yorktown, Va., have organized an Archery club. With the usual Marines’ penchant for trouble they have announced that they are ready and willing to “shoot up” a team from any college, univer sity, club, Boy Scouts, Campfire Girls, W. C. T. U. or what have you. What ho! Who will be first meat for the Leather Necks? Henry Burr of Coquille, Oregon, calls our attention to an article, “The Trail of the Arrow,” which is to be found in a recent number of Popular Mechanics.

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And HotA By Donald M. Cole, Doland, S. Dak.

The great plains of Dakota offer to the archer some advantages that can not be had in rugged or wooded sec tions. Here the ground is all in his favor when it comes to retrieving arrows and this thing of searching in brush and uneven soil has caused many a Robin Hood to all but sweat blood. On every hand, north, east, south and west these vast level stretches sweep on. There is not a mound as large as a bushel behind which game may hide and in consequence it is commonly sighted at distances that would simply be impossible in other sections. The archer who has neverhunted here would at once take a spoonful of salt if told that jackrab bits are positively identified with the naked eye at half a mile, and that a wide awake jack may be approached to within four yards before taking to his heels, yet I have done both, not once but many times, and the explan ation is ridiculously simple.

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ness whose only exception is the jet black tips of the ears. Now it often happens that snow fails to come as a fitting garment for winter and na ture who has given the rabbit his new white coat as a color protection has unwittingly made him the target for all eyes. Against the black earth of plowed fields he stands out clear and distinct. If the archer can locate game be cause there is little or- no cover be hind which it may hide, it would seem that little advantage had been gained, since to approach to within good range the hunter must be very much in evidence to the game. However, now comes into play a little psychol ogy which works more often than not and at times works to a degree which seems scarcely creditable.

Let us assume that a jack is sight ed at 100 yards. He is lying comfort ably in a slight hollow which he has dug, ears laid flat along his neck and back and with his feet tucked under The jack is typical of the plains him. Here he basks lazily in the country, several times as large as an warm, bright sun which filters ordinary cottontail, with a coat so through trenchant fall air. I have dense and fine that he can sit mo often observed jacks so located that tionless for hours at a time exposed would remain thus for an entire day to icy winds without discomfort, and and bestir themselves only with the with power in his great back legs that first shades of twilight. Aside from will drive him over the ground at a advancing danger- there is really no speed which makes the average dog reason for dashing madly off, and I appear feeble and rheumatic. He is suspect this thing of quiet repose un der the soft caress of a late autumn well equipped to stand the bitter win sun fills even a jack with anything ters and to preserve himself against his four footed enemies. but suspicion or thoughts of violence. The first step to successfully ap With the approach of cold weather proach to 20 yards or less is not to his coat turns from brown to white and with the complete transformation j stop and ogle at the game in sur is, on a bright day, a dazzling white-’ prise, for I am satisfied that such

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actions tells him that he has been dis covered. From the instant he is seen continue to saunter along as though he were unobserved. If the line of advance be directly towards him bear off to one side at least at a 45 degree angle. When one comes abreast of the game bear in a bit and continue doing so. This will lead the hunter in a circle about the quarry, perhaps once, or if the distance at first be great, several times but ever drawing closer. The hunter at all times appears to be pass ing and by his attitude plays a very important part. Watch from the cor ner of the eye and above all things do not assume the pose of a stalking fox, simply saunter along.

Jackrabbits will as a rule give some warning of flight by fidgeting slight ly if they believe all is not well. Then one must shoot at once or chance a running shot. Many times I have ap proached jacks to within two bow lengths and found them viewing me with a mild and unsuspecting eye. Such a statement will sound a trifle seedy to those who employ the charg ing methods but even folks who do not like me will vouch for its authen tic nature. I shall here confess that when close approaches have been made, and by close I mean anything less than 20 yards, that I cannot bring myself to shoot. I am chicken hearted when timid and harmless game per mits my close presence. Such trusting confidence should be rewarded with something better than cold steel. Oth ers, too, with whom I have hunted find pleasure in sparing a creature whose life they might easily take and are repaid by the picture of con summate grace and power with which the animal finally departs. To hunt, however, is to shoot and for shooting the bow and arrow seems to me an

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ideal weapon. Its very primitiveness and its limitations enchant me, yet it is deadly, and rare indeed are those occasions when game that has been struck escapes. A keen headed shaft brings death quickly and proves itself as a merciful and humane weapon. Running game is not immune to a flying shaft at the accompanying pic ture will show. A jack struck down at 40 yards while going full speed ahead and quartering away. It is not often that an arrow from my bow finds its mark under such conditions and when it does the surprise is mutual. Archery has some very distinct ad vantages over firearms and one is that as a rule game will pay little at tention to the flight of an arrow or two. Often the hunter is granted half a dozen shots. A shaft will flick by a given point with only a slight hum or whistle and coming head on is all but invisible. All of us have heard from time to time the rush of small wings as a bird passed close by. The sound of a speeding arrow is not dis similar and it is possible that game interprets the sound as such. Recently while tramping about on a December day I located a jack peace fully sunning himself in a hollow which had at one time been the mouth of a burrow. Only his eye and the very top of his back showed and I judged the distance to be 28 yards. The first shaft struck the frozen ground a trifle low, seemed to gather speed as it glanced away and sailing in a low arc settled far beyond. The path of the second was a repetition of the first, and the third, and the fourth and so on until my quiver of eight was exhausted. I backed slow ly away for a few yards, then circled and retrieving the arrows returned to my original position, and again start ed shooting. Some struck barely short

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some just beyond, yet all appeared to travel straight for that thin white only to be flicked upwards as by an unseen hand at the instant they should have sunk home. My quiver was again empty. Sixteen arrows in all had left the bowstring and still the jack sat secure and un scathed in his bed, apparently uncon cerned. Perhaps the arrows could have been gathered and the perform ance again repeated but for me it had been a good show. I had received the thrill of 16 close shots, each arrow as it started on its flight, appearing as

yond my sight. I say my friend, for although I shot my best I prefer his picture to the red stained arrow which would have proven me a better marks man. And how?

JAPANESE ARCHERY TOURNAMENT By J. H. Denison, Seattle, Wash. The semi-annual tournament of the Seattle Japanese Archery club was held at club quarters, 517% Maynard St., Seattle, October 12th. The shoot ing which commenced at 1:30 p. m. was at 30 yards range, the targets

“A jack peacefully sunning himself in a hollow.”

the hand of death yet missing its mark by so swift and narrow a mar gin that the eye could not measure it. Drawing the companion of all hunts from my pocket, a small kodak, I advanced in the manner before de scribed. The picture was taken at less than four yards and the mark appears much larger than it did at 28. A second after the kodak clicked my friend shot forward like a rocket while long powerful leaps soon bore him be-

(white paper circles of 12 inches di ameter) being placed against a slop ing sand bank elevated about six inch es above the floor- level. Two arrows at a time were shot by each archer, five ends or 10 arrows constituting a round, the competition consisting of two rounds. The Seattle Archery club and “Locksley Archers,” togeth er with lady friends and juniors were the guests. The scoring which was by hits was as follows:

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Japanese — Ito, 13; Kikuchi, 13; Matsuda, 12; Nakamura, 11; Tokida, 11; T. Matsuda, 10; Gosho, 9; Shiga, 8; Takei, 8; Wakamatsu, 6; Imamura, 5; Hayashi, 4; Suzuki, 3. Average per man, 8.7 hits. Locksleys—Zallinger, 16; Belshaw, 16; Hensley, 14 • Pearson, 12; Huntley, 10; Parker, 7. Average per man, 12.5 hits. Seattle Archery club—Kerchen, 16; Parsons, 13; Adams, 11; Duryee, 10; Denison, 10; Burr, 10. Average per man, 11.6 hits. Ladies — Mrs. Belshaw, 13 • Mrs. Adams, 8; Mrs. Parker, 4; Mrs. Hen sley, 1; Miss McGowan, 1. Average, 6.0 hits. Boys—Zallinger, 15; Powell, 8. Av erage, 11.5 hits. Refreshments were then served by Japanese ladies and this was followed by some novelty shooting. Balloons and a two-inch paper mark, at both of which the Japnese showed up well with their long bamboo bows and ar rows. One—Gosho—scored a beautiful center hit in the two-inch circle, he being the only archer to touch this miniature target. Numerous prizes were awarded by the Japanese club to the visitors who were one and all very much pleased with the courteous reception accorded them, and many favorable comments were passed upon the exceedingly comfortable and well-equipped quarters which the Japanese club occupies. Later in the evening the various archers adjourned to a neighboring 'I? Japanese restaurant where a typical Japanese meal was served, followed by some speeches and entertainment by members of the Japanese colony.

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CAUSES OF VARIATION IN ARROW WEIGHT By W. 0. Robinson, Washington, D. C.

A prominent arrow manufacturer decided to learn something about the seasoning of arrow shafts and out lined an experiment to gain such knowledge. The experiment consisted of weighing arrow shafts at stated intervals during the process of season ing. Apparently the idea was that seasoning of the wood meant a loss of weight due to the evaporation of wat er and when seasoning was complete there would be no further loss. The arrow maker stated that he could make neither head nor tail of what was going on. Many times there was a decided gain in weight as time went on. The problem was given up as veiled in mystery. In the light of simple physical re lations, however, the problem is fair ly simple. Wood is a colloid and pos sesses marked power to absorb water even from the air when it contains no visible moisture. The quantity of water vapor the air will contain when saturated is governed by the temper ature. At any particular temperature the air may be from 10 to 15 per cent saturated in a very dry place, or it may be 90 to 95 per cent saturated when the ah’ is very humid.

An ordinary footed Norwegian pine arrow may vary in weight as much as three quarters of a gram when weighed in air of these two extremes of saturation. These changes in weight are independent of the seasoning of the wood. The variation will be ob served in old English arrows forty to fifty years old and carefully var nished, as well as in a recently sand ed shaft. It has been found that by weighing

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a series of arrows a great many times and measuring the relative humidity of the air at the same time the weigh ings were made, that there is a fair correlation between the relative hu midity and the changes in the weight observed. This correlation should be exact if the arrows were thoroughly seasoned, if equilibrium had been reached and if the relative humidity did not change during the weighing. These conditions are not possible, however, in ordinary laboratory prac tice and some experiments are now being carried on in controlled atmo sphere, with weighings made in stop pered vessels. A digest of the literature on wood seasoning shows that the loss of wat er is only a small part of the season ing process. There is a gradual con version of the soluble carbohydrates into phlobaphene or heart substance; tannins may increase during the sea soning process and be later oxidized to other substances, volatile matter other than water may be given off and resins and gums may be convert ed into other substances with an ac tual gain in weight as time goes on. As far as practical arrow making is concerned, it is clear that the weight of an arrow is not a constant quan tity. Such weights may vary as much as one gram or 15 grains in extreme cases. Further, a set of arrows made from random selections that have dif ferent seasoning histories may be per fectly matched in weight when made and be considerably off at some later date. It would seem that if a set of ar rows matched in weight at one state of humidity they would match in oth er humidities, but in practice this has been found to be untrue. It is prob able that in such cases equilibrium has not been reached.

DIRECT ACTION VS. POLITICS Contributed by J. B. Wallace, Alameda, Cal. The “Pacific Sportsman” is advo cating the setting aside of of an ex tensive section of the U. S. forest area as a partial (sic) Game Sanc tuary, allowing hunting with the bow and arrow only. Good! Very good! But— Why appeal to Washington every time we have a stomach ache ? Out in the sticks where men are still men, more or less, and women hot tamales, they still believe in di rect action and “t’hell with George.” The “Wild Goose Archery club” in the wilds of Shasta county, Calif., has had printed and posted on over 6000 acres of land this notice: NO HUNTING Except with the Bow and Arrow Killers Not Wanted Sportsmen Welcomed John Smith Owner They expect to have 100,000 acres posted by the end of the year. Do you know of any good hunting ground? Why not go after it? Uncle Sam helps those that help themselves.

An Archery-Golf match was held at the Cedar Hills Country Club, Jack sonville, Florida, on October 5th and was witnessed by a considerable num ber of both archery and golf enthusi asts. The contest was a victory for the archers, but the golfers are not convinced and another match will be arranged. An excellent target range has been established on the beautiful grounds of the Cedar Hills Golf and Country Club, Jacksonville, Florida. It is about thirty minutes from the business sec tion of the city in a level pine grove near one of the fairways, and will ac commodate, three targets.

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The Pistol vs The Botv By W. J. Rheingans, Milwaukee, Wis.

It was during the fifteenth century when gunpowder started to replace the bow and arrow as a weapon of war and hunting that the controversy between the gun and the bow first started. We can imagine the hot argument that must have taken place between the group introducing the gunpowder and the old stand patters sticking to their bows. There was a real cause for argument in those days and no doubt the guns won out if for no other reason than that the noise frightened the enemy more than the silent arrows. During the past few centuries there of course has been no comparison be tween the bow and the gun as a wea pon of war and it is only during the past eight or ten years that it has found favor among the hunters again. However, there is one branch of the gunpowder art with which the bow still compares favorably and that is pistol shooting. Every since taking up the fascinat ing sport of archery and hunting with the bow and arrow we have been arguing back and forth with archers and gun cranks in regard to the rela tive accuracy of the pistol or revolver as compared to the bow. This was not in reference to the inherent me chanical accuracy of the two wea pons such as would be determined by placing them in machine rests, but was concerned entirely with the abil ity of the average person to hit the mark with either weapon. Some of the pistol cranks, knowing very little about the possibilities of a good bow and arrow, claimed that an archer wouldn’t have a show against a good pistol shot, while the loyal and

enthusiastic archers maintained that it would be a pretty good race. Since none of our Milwaukee archers were expert target shots, not even being in the 500 American Round class, we didn’t feel that any contest between the local archers and the pistol shoot ers would give a fair comparison. We therefore thought it would be better to have the pistol men shoot a reg ular American Round at the standard four-foot target and then compare their scores with the best American Round archcry scores. We accordingly adjourned to the Racine county rifle range, pasted a standard archery target on the pistol target frame and started shooting from the 60 yard line. We had two guns—a .38 Colt officers’ special six shooter, and a .22 Colt automatic tar get pistol—both guns being as excel lent target guns as can be obtained. Unfortunately we had only 40 cart ridges for the .38, but we had enough .22’s for three complete American rounds. Mr. F. Nagler used the .38 Colt re volver and fired 15 shots at 60 yards, 15 shots at 50 yards and 10 shots at 40 yards. His score is given below and when stepped up to a regular American Round would total 690. Mr. J. J. Ring used the .22 Colt automatic and fired 30 shots at 60 yards, 30 at 50 and 30 at 40 yards His score was 682. Mr. H. Wilson, also using the Colt automatic, fired the regular American round of 90 shots and scored 589. The writer, using the .22 Colt auto matic scored 561 for the American round. Mr. F. Nagler and Mr. J. J. Ring

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are both excellent pistol shots. Mr. Nagler has qualified repeatedly as an expert over the regular army pistol course. In 1910 he was high in the state of Wisconsin. However, these men both admit that they couldn’t stand up against any of the present day pistol experts. Mr. Wilson and the writer are just fair shots with the pistol, having qualified for marksmen over the army D course. None of the men had pre pared specially for this stunt; it be ing the first time they ever tried the archery American Round with a pistol and they all felt that the scores would be improved with a little prac tice. However they also figured that 90 shots was quite a number for a pistol, especially the .38 or .45, and that a shooter might easily become tired before completing the round. In the near future we expect to try the full American Round with the stand ard army .45 Colt automatic. The chances are that the scores will be somewhat lower with this gun. It is understood, of course, that all shooting was done in the regular tournament style, standing, with the pistol held in one hand. It is interesting to note that al though the best score made with the pistol was better than any national tournament archery score, still there have been a number of practice rounds in local tournaments where the archery score was higher than the 690 scored by Mr. F. Nagler with the pistol. Our next step will be to try the York round with the pistol and in the meantime we would be glad to hear from any of the pistol men if they have any information along these lines. Incidentally all of the shooters said that the American round made an excellent pistol course, and three of the four shooters are archery en-

thusiasts. An analysis of the scores made with the pistol follows: Mr. F. Nagler, using .38 Colt offi cer’s special six shooter: 60 yards— 5—9’s= 45 7—7’s= 49 3—5’s= 15

109X2=218 15 50 yards— 5—9’s= 45 9—7’s= 63 1—5 = 5

113X2=226 15 40 yards— 6—9’s= 54 4—7’s= 28 10 82X3=246 Total actual score, 304 Comparative American -----Round score: 690 Mr. J. J. Ring, using .22 Colt auto matic: 50 yards— 60 yards— 13—9’s=117 9—9’s= 81 13—7’s= 91 15—7’s=105 4—5’s= 20 3—5’s= 15 2—3’s= 6 228 30 1—1 = 1 40 yards— 18—9’s=162 208 30 12—7’s= 84

246 30 Total, all scores ................................ 682 Mr. H. Wilson, using .22 Colt auto matic: 50 yards— 60 yards— 9—9’s= 81 3— 9’s= 27 10—7’s= 70 14—7’s= 98 8—5’s= 40 7—5’s= 35 1—3 = 3 4— 3 = 12 2— l’s= 2 1—1 = 1 29

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14 40 yards— 13__9’s=117 11—7’s= 77 5—5’s= 25 1—1 = 1

30 220 Total, all scores ................................ 589 The writer, using the .22 Colt auto matic: 60 yards— 50 yards— 6—9’s= 54 5—9’s= 45 8—7’s= 56 10— 7’s= 70 6— 5’s= 30 11— 5’s= 55 7—3’s= 21 2—3’s= 6 1—1 = 1 1—1 = 1

28 162 40 yards— 12—9’s=108 14—7’s= 98 2—5’s— 10 2—3’s= 6

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THE ARCHERS’ JAMBOREE (Continued from Page 4) foot race but we cannot say either lit erally or figuratively that he won in a walk. Dr. Roberts was right behind him “bound to do or die.” Earle Gard ner claims to be the only archer who has touched a live skunk with his bow but Stan Spencer carried on a contest with a skunk that, he says, “Put the skunk to shame.” Let’s see you ex plain that away, Stan. To Tom Belshaw went the honors for telling the funniest story with his yarn about the man who didn’t know he was hit by a train but wondered why his shin was sore. Homer Prou ty’s chuckles over the story kept the camp awake till 2 a. m. Kore Duryee and S. B. Hayden were the champion pig hunters, bringing in a nice fat

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wild pig for camp meat. Champion ships on the rover’s course changed so often that I cannot say who finally won, but the course was popular and helped to keep up the morale of the camp. Stan Spencer won the first five honors in the biggest liar contest but said he wasn’t really at his best until he had had a taste of fresh deer liver. Woe to the laurels of Baron Munchhausen if Stan had gotten the liver! Dr. Cathey won the scalplock for telling the most gruesome campfire story and Dr. West was second. What memories these doctors have to sleep with on dark, story nights! As man are always happiest when they are well fed much of the success of the jamboree was due to Earl Ull rich who had charge of the culinary department. And then all too soon I had to leave. The later events of the jamboree are hearsay but I understand that Dr. West and Mr. Hayden each shot his deer with bow and arrow and Grover Gouthier and B. G. Thompson each got one on a trip to the same locality later in the season. Just before finishing this article I looked up “jamboree” in Webster? Unabridged. Webster- wasn’t defining our Archers’ Jamboree on Lobster mountain. Capt. Francis E. Council, Winthrop, Mass., suggests that we note in Ye Sylvan Archer articles on archery published in current numbers of oth er magazines. We feel the sugges tion is a good one and welcome hav ing our attention called to archery articles, in order that we may pass the information on to our readers. An archery club is being organized at Long Beach, California.

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SOUTH GATE INVITATIONAL TOURNAMENT By Horace Allen Wingard, Long Beach, Cal. After being invited to participate in a tournament on their new range by the South Gate, California, Arch ery club, the San Pedro Archery club members journeyed to South Gate Sunday, November 9, to defeat that club’s best five men by a single point. San Pedro gathered 2576 points in the men’s five high score division to South Gate’s 2575. Mrs. B. Hodgson of San Pedro won the women’s high division with 523 points. Mrs. H. Myers of South Gate came second with 457 points. In the men’s division, D. Gunn of South Gate scored high with 591 points. A. Calkins of San Pedro came second with 584; Doc Cook of San Pedro, third with 560 • and Ray Hodg son of San Pedro, fourth with 532.

SAN PEDRO TOURNAMENT By Horace Allen Wingard, Long Beach, Cal. With a score of 557, A. Calkins car ried away the prize for- men’s high in the archery tournament held Novem ber 2 at Terminal Island, California, by the San Pedro Archery club. F. Kazman, shooting 550, took second men’s high honors. Ladies’ high was won by Mrs. B. Hodgsorr with 518; second ladies’ high award went to Mrs. N. Reid with 400. F. Thorpe, with a handicap of 270, shot 521 to total 791 and carry off first honors in men’s handicap event. Second men’s handicap award went to W. Nelson, handicap 426, who shot 364 to total 790. Norma Kazman took first in the ladies’ handicap event. She has a handicap of 379 and shot 480 to total 859. Second in this event went to

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