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Jonathan Van Ness Gets Curious The ‘Queer Eye’ grooming expert’s new Netflix show explores everything from bugs to being nonbinary By Chris Azzopardi Before I talk to Jonathan Van Ness about their new Netflix show, “Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness,” they take me on a little on-camera adventure that involves them “needing cuter light.” They do a 180 with the computer. They swivel in their chair. “I need more natural light in my life, I’m sorry,” they say, still shifting and “getting comfortable.” And then once they find that magical spot where the light hits their face in just the right place, the 34-year-old “Queer Eye” grooming expert grooms their computer, gently wiping the lens with a tissue. If you’re going to wear what they’re wearing — it appears to be a chiffon kaftan — you don’t want a dusty ol’ lens muddying its bright pink radiance, honey. “I did an outfit change for you,” they say, having slipped into their new, flowier ensemble just before our interview. Van Ness, who is also a children’s book author and one of just a few openly nonbinary public figures, rocks an entire closet of gender-
nonconforming fashion on Season 6 of “Queer Eye,” which hit Netflix on New Year’s Eve 2021. On their new six-episode series, a TV adaptation of their podcast “Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness,” the multi-hyphenate even has an entire episode devoted to gender identity. Featured in the episode, titled “Can We Say ByeBye to the Binary?,” are gender nonconforming activist Alok Vaid-Menon and Geo Neptune, the first two-spirit elected official in the state of Maine. With Van Ness, who says they hadn’t even heard the term nonbinary until the age of 30, Vaid-Menon and Neptune explore what their identity means to them and the history of our rigid gender binary. The show also intends to open up minds on other topics as well, such as why bugs aren’t so bad, figure skating’s minority barriers and, naturally, an entire episode on the history of coifs called “Why Is Hair So Major?” All aglow through a freshly cleaned computer camera, Van Ness spoke to me about the “sense of ease” they feel now, a dream “Getting Curious” guest star they’re not sure they could form words
around, and their very personal reason for being There aren’t a lot of nonbinary public figures completely theirself around young queer people. in the world, and you seem to be aware of that as you’ve been using your platform to I watched a lot of “Getting Curious” really educate people. yesterday and wanted to thank you for Absolutely. I think that for me, being someone modeling curiosity, first of all. I think as who was very mercilessly bullied all throughout adults we tend to lose our imagination and my childhood and formative educational years, we just accept some things for the way that I’ve always been very moved by this thought of, they are. Is that what you felt going into the “If I could make it easier for other people like me or put a little bit of an end to other people’s show? Well, I started “Getting Curious,” the podcast, suffering, it would make my suffering more in 2015. I’ve always been someone who loves worth it.” And so I’ve always liked the idea to learn, and I’m just a very curious person. And of using what I’ve learned to help make other I clearly love talking. So the idea — wanting to people’s lives easier. understand the world around me better — has been something that’s existed within me for as I love that you said that because my colleague, long as I can remember. So that was definitely whose queer son loves you, wanted to know something that I wanted the opportunity to how you feel when it’s a kid who looks to you break down on the Netflix stage ‘cause it’s a as a huge inspiration as they’re navigating their own gender and identity. very big stage. And I wanted to bring a more visual, multi- That’s a really good question. I think sometimes medium, multifaceted world in which the when I see much younger children, like in my podcast — but as a TV show — could live. standup comedy show, I just feel immediately So I’m just really excited that we got the guilty. I’m like, “Oh my god. I hope I don’t opportunity and that Netflix believed in me traumatize them, honey, ‘cause we are going enough and that we can go explore the world there tonight.” So in that sense, it can be a little together. So I’m just really excited that I have bit harder, but so often I think about Margaret Cho when I think about how I want to live my the opportunity and I hope everyone loves it. life as a public figure. I was introduced to her work at a very young age. I was maybe 10 or 11 You mention Netflix being a big stage, when I first saw one of her specials on Comedy which it is. Is that why you were like, “You Central. And she did not hold back. She was know what? We are gonna do an entire herself. She _is_ herself. She’s a full-bodied episode devoted to nonbinary and gender version of herself. And look at how I turned out. nonconforming people”? I’m fine. Yeah. Being someone who is nonbinary is So I just feel like I wanna be myself. I don’t something that I think I’ve been my entire life. I wanna totally limit my art or my creativity only had language for it in these last few years. thinking about, like, “Oh my gosh, is this gonna But the amount of trans misogyny that I’ve had be too much for someone?” I feel honored that to endure and live through in my own life pales people of any age would look to me and find in comparison to some of the trans misogyny more self-love, more self-acceptance, more that other people have had to go through within comedy, more joy. More curiosity. So I think I our community and within our trans community, wanna think about that because if I think about, specifically. like, “Oh my gosh, I’m a role model for a lot of However, I wanted to humanize us. And it’s young people,” and even just success in general, not only my job to do this, obviously. But I if I thought about it too much, I would become wanted to have a time where we could talk and really full of anxiety and unsure of what to do. be together and learn together and just have And so I think in order for me to stay connected that humanity, ‘cause I think so often we are to myself and my own vision, I have to not portrayed in this way that it’s just not human. think too much about the way that it’s gonna It’s only around, like, violence or this feeling of, be received. trans people are coming for our way of life. Or trans people are coming for tradition. Or trans Do you have moments in your mind where people are coming for sports. Or trans people you’re like, “What would this have meant are coming for public safety, or whatever it is. to little Jonathan growing up in Quincy, And I wanted to show people that we are human Illinois?” and we are all sorts of different things that are Very much. And sometimes that’s actually not threatening, and actually very beautiful and another one of those feelings where sometimes I amazing and are just as natural as the grass or think if I felt that feeling all the way, I know I’d rain. You know, we’ve been here forever. And I just be in a corner crying because I can’t believe was really excited to get an opportunity to share that I’ve been able to do this with my life. that information. But I do hope that other young people seeing me achieve what I’ve been able to achieve in
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my career won’t find it so shocking when they achieve their dreams. Because for me growing up, I felt like it was unheard of. I didn’t think that I was ever gonna see someone like me be so successful and beloved and accepted and able to create their own projects. It really is such an honor. And I want other people, especially young people, to look at me and think that they can do it too.
episodes of the show? I mean, once you do have Michelle Kwan, I don’t know where else you’re gonna go from there. I kind of started with the most major one ever! But I mean, I feel like… is Adele ever available? Beyoncé? Michelle Obama, honey? Like, I’m shooting for the stars, but I don’t know. Who knows?
Oprah? Oh my god, Oprah. Aaah! I don’t know if I even have Oprah ‘cause I think I would Is this your first season on “Queer Eye” could literally do that for the whole 22 minutes. Aah! identifying openly as nonbinary? I came out about being nonbinary in 2019, Aaah! before we filmed Season 5, but I don’t know if I’d watch it. I would. me talking about it in that season made it to air. The title of that episode: “Can Jonathan Form Words Around Oprah?” I wondered because you are fully yourself this season in a way that I hadn’t really seen before. You’re really embodying your whole self, even down to the fashion. Did you feel differently this season? Yeah. I think it’s just been such a fast four years, you know? From shooting Season 1 and 2 in Atlanta in 2017, which is when we actually shot that, and then Season 3 and 4, which we shot in 2018, really soon after the show had come out. Season 1 and 2 we shot together. Season 3 and 4, together. And then 5 was its own thing. And then 6 was its own thing. And so each one of those chunks I feel like I was in just a wholly different life situation every single time. Just neck-spraining differences in life situations. So I do think that the season between being married and … definitely this was the first season where Chris Azzopardi is the Editorial Director of I was public about my HIV status. Just very Pride Source Media Group and Q Syndicate, public in all of the things. And so I think that the national LGBTQ+ wire service. He has that maybe did lead to just a more overall sense interviewed a multitude of superstars, including of ease. Cher, Meryl Streep, Mariah Carey and Beyoncé. His work has also appeared in The New York In “Getting Curious,” you’ve got some great Times, Vanity Fair, GQ and Billboard. Reach guest stars, including Rachel Dratch, Lea him via Twitter @chrisazzopardi. DeLaria and Michelle Kwan. Who is on your dream guest star list for potential future
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TAURUS: You have a project coming up that you want to show your strengths in the process and potentially get noticed, but be careful about how much time you put into it. If you burn out then more people will notice your lack of work and it'll reflect negatively on you. GEMINI: You want to take an adventure but have no idea where yet. That being said, if you get lost somewhere that is uncharted and new know that the universe has your back this week. You are going to have a strong moment of self realization in that time of complete abandon.
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MARCH 30th - APRIL 6th Gear Night @ The Hideaway | March 30th (7 - 9 PM)
Calling all Doms, Daddies, Sirs, Subs, Boys and Pups! (And everyone/thing in-between!) Join your fellow Atlanta Kinksters for a casual night of gear and good times at the Hideaway. We’ll be slinging a kinky cocktail special from 7pm to 9pm March 30th! Hideaway and your hosts, David and Paul, invite you to brush off your best gear (keep it PG-69 y’all) and come out for our first gear themed happy hour! We’ll have a bar tab raffle at 8:45pm. (Maybe even a few other prizes) Earn an entry for every cocktail you order while in gear.
Rocky Horror Picture Show Trivia @ Guac Y Margys Auburn Drive | March 30th (7 - 9 PM)
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Rocky Horror Picture Show @ Plaza Atlanta | April 1st (11 PM)
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Spring into Atlanta Festival Season with the 12th Annual Spring Festival on Ponce The Atlanta Foundation for Public Spaces is proud to announce the 12th Annual Spring Festival on Ponce on April 2-3, 2022 in Atlanta, Georgia. This event will feature over 125 local and regional artists with the beautiful backdrop of historic Olmsted Linear Park. Visitors will enjoy fine art and crafts, children’s area, live acoustic entertainment and local food and beverage concessions including “gourmet” food trucks. This event is organized by the Atlanta Foundation for Public Spaces and volunteer artists to benefit the local community. This event will be very conservative, with sensitivity to the park and neighborhood. Best of all, its free to attend. Location: 1451 Ponce de Leon Avenue, N.E., Atlanta, GA 30307 Olmsted Linear Park Times: Sat., April 2, 2022 from 10:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Sun., April 3, 2022 from 11:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m.
Georgia Craft Brewers Festival @ Atlantic Station | April 2 (1pm-5pm)
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Beer Bust @ Woofs Atlanta | April 2nd (1:30 - 4:30 PM)
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Beer Bust @ Felix's Atlanta | April 2nd (6 PM)
Join the Atlanta Front Runners this Saturday, April 2 for a Beer Bust at Felix’s Atlanta!! Felix’s will be donating a keg where cups can be purchased for $20 for unlimited refills until GONE. Proceeds from Jell-O shots will benefit the Pride Run & Walk, and who could turn down cold beer, music, games, and fun friends? We hope to see you there.
HeyDay @ Basement | April 2nd (10 PM)
21+ / 10pm / Kimber is the DJ Bring your friends and come dance to your favorite hits from the decade of Rainbow Brite, breakdancing and crimped hair — Prince, Madonna, INXS, Cyndi Lauper, Whitney, Queen, Salt N Pepa, Wham!, Dolly Parton, The Pointer Sisters, Erasure, Lionel Richie, Depeche Mode, Hall & Oates, Janet Jackson, Chaka Khan, Bon Jovi, and all your other favorites. Come sing along, make some new friends, and dance your cares away with us. Dress the part or come as you are... just be ready to dance. We’re so excited, and we just can’t hide it.
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XION w/ Nina Flowers @ Believe Music Hall | March 3rd (3 AM - 7 AM) We are pleased to welcome back Nina to Xion!
Dear Peach, I hate to say this, but I am confused by the different gender expressions and sexualities. How can I educate myself more on the matter and make sure that I am honoring those around me by using proper pronouns; even if that’s the smallest thing I can do?
Honestly, it’s not unheard of. There are many people out there who are confused as you are by the various gender and sexuality expressions nowadays. However, we have to realize that these expressions always existed. Sexuality (as explained by Kinsey and the "Kinsey Spectrum”) is just that, a spectrum. Some people exist on the spectrum as 100% homosexual, heterosexual or somewhere in between. We have to understand gender expression as the same thing. If we believe that gender falls into societal constructs of what a male and female should be wearing, doing, or other… those are constructs that unfortunately reinforce these notions. If someone decides that they identify as female with biological male parts, then we have to accept that. The brain is a very powerful thing and everyones is working in overdrive these days. What does it matter what is between your legs? Everyone is human and we need to accept the fact that those around us can be different than us. It’s what makes the world more vibrant and diverse. Being nice costs you nothing, but can make the person you are nice to feel EVERYTHING!