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45 universities fill Mall for Transfer Day
By Ryan Kassebaum Reporter
Students were actively engaged in Pierce College’s Transfer College Fair in an attempt to learn more about the transfer process and set their eyes on four-year institutions where they can continue their academic journey.
Pierce College’s annual Transfer Fair was held Wednesday, from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. in the Pierce College Mall with 45 universities in attendance. The fair focused on allowing students to engage with a representative from one of the universities and start the decision process for the school they want to continue moving forward with.
Sonoma State University
Recruiting Counselor Kyle Williams aimed to help students with the application process as well as get to know the campus of Sonoma State University better.
Williams believes having a transfer day can allow the universities to be more accessible to the students and allow for them to be more transparent.
“Some students don’t know where exactly they want to go so it can make it a bit easier because there are a billion colleges that they could possibly go to,” Williams said. “So it kind of makes it a little more real and easier for them to decide which ones to go to.”
Williams states the representatives’ role is to spread information and make it easier for potential students to understand.
“Sometimes it can feel that maybe the websites are confusing,” Williams said. “So our role is to explain things because we’re usually really familiar with the campus. We can explain specific requirements for programs, and what campus life is like. Stuff that you can’t necessarily get from a website.”
Pierce College student Kai Nguyen believes there is great importance in having transfer
Men’s soccer loses to Mission
fairs due to the lack of knowledge some students have about the Transfer Day continues on page 3.
Photo by Moses Murga
Students traverse through the various college transfer information booths on the mall during the Transfer College Fair held at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 30, 2024. Photo by Moses Murga.
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Creating AI classes will better prepare students
With an increase in the use of artificial intelligence, there have been concerns that its use will replace jobs or that it will be used dishonestly in academics.
But AI is on a path to cementing itself as an important tool for many jobs. As AI becomes prevalent in the workforce and academics, Pierce College should create courses that teach students how to use it as an effective tool.
Across the nation, many schools have created courses and programs for AI, such as MIT, UC Berkeley and Stanford University. Some community colleges have also created AI academic programs, such as Estrella
Mountain College in Arizona and Las Positas College in California, the latter having created a certificate in 2020, according to the Los Angeles Community College District.
Pierce can get ahead by creating curricula focused on AI, which could potentially help increase enrollment given that this is still a fairly novel concept, and better equip students as the job market is shaped by the increase in AI. Some of these courses could also have a more narrow focus, such as how to use AI for research.
Programs such asClaude. ai are capable of creating fairly serviceable outlines of documents, highlighting key ideas and summarizing sections with accuracy. Tools like these are not necessarily harmful, because they still require a person to read
and be familiar with the source and expedite the research process, which can be very lengthy.
AI can also be used in the classrooms to assist educators and students by creating personalized learning materials for students’ areas of strength and interests, and potentially highlighting areas of struggle “allowing educators to provide targeted interventions,” according to the California Department of Education.
Not all AI is bad AI. It can be a genuine tool. For instance, journalists use programs such as Otter.ai to aid in transcribing recordings, saving writers the time and hassle of manually transcribing the audio from people they interview. But the person transcribing still has to listen to the recording to make sure no errors were made.
Goldman Sachs estimated that about two-thirds of jobs are exposed to some level of AI automation. This is where a need for people to be literate in AI comes in.
Additionally, Generation.org noted the challenges posed in the workforce as AI progresses, such as a “need for workers to upskill or reskill to stay relevant in their careers” and a risk that some manual and routine jobs being automated.
While historically automation has led to humans being replaced by technology, it also creates new types of jobs, according to the World Economic Forum.
Pierce can adequately prepare students for a world that is prevalent in AI and even help some students launch careers in AI-related markets by adding AI courses.
Sports are everywhere in the city of Los Angeles and they bring people together, regardless of their beliefs or background.
Ordinary games can become amazing experiences that will create unity and passion with one another.That’s why Pierce College should host sports watch parties for fans on campus to cheer local professional teams. It is a common problem for new students to be scared to meet people.Attending an event with peers who share a
mutual passion can be a great way to find friends. Students can do this easily with the high number of fans who are their age. About 41% of people 18-34 are casual sports fans with an additional 36% being avid, according to Statista.
Living in California, Pierce students do not have to worry about being short of exciting games to watch. According to Metro Atlanta CEO, California has 15 professional sports teams across the NBA, MLB, NFL and NHL, the most in the United States, with New York coming in
second with 10.
With the high amount of teams in the state, there is almost always a winning team to cheer.
For some students, this can be their only resource of watching a professional game live. With the often expensive ticket prices and subscriptions needed to watch live games, some fans don’t have the luxury of watching their favorite team. According to StubHub, a ticket to a Los Angeles Lakers game typically starts at $58 , and one of the most used streaming service, YouTube TV, being $72.99 per month.
The prices and locations of these games can sometimes be difficult for a college student to participate. With events hosted by the school, it will be much easier for students to come and support the team that they love. With their love of sports, Pierce students can make the college experience even more exciting, and they can even come out and support the Brahmas in school matches, as well.
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Should community colleges offer remedial classes?
Entry level offerings promote equity
By Raquel G. Frohlich Reporter
In recent decades, community colleges have grown their academic and vocational programs to a competitive level, but to many, it continues to be an affordable, accessible and straightforward stepping stone to traditional four-year higher education.
Assembly Bills 705 (2018) and 1705 (2022) are both concerned with getting community college students into transfer-level courses that will count toward a degree. AB 1705 prevents colleges from requiring students to enroll in remedial classes or repeat courses already done in high school or college, according to EdSource.
professors discussed the issue of a decrease in students being placed into developmental courses.
“Approximately 60% of Pierce College students would benefit from pre-transfer math and English courses,” English Professor Curt Duffy said. “Courses that Jacqui Irwin’s AB 1705 flexibly made off-limits.”
Extra classes waste time, hurt GPA
By Erica Logan Reporter
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These classes should not be offered if they harm a student’s education. This raises another concern regarding colleges offering remedial courses lowering a student’s success rate.
Duffy said that failure rates in transfer level courses have become higher because students haven’t had the developmental coursework.
tarting anything can be a time of unease and apprehension for anyone. While many students may feel excitement and anticipation about enrolling in college and starting a new chapter, these positive feelings can often be accompanied by self-doubt and obstacles, which often include remedial courses.
According to What to Become, “75% of students required to take remedial college classes fail to graduate.”
In AB 705, unless students are highly unlikely to succeed in transfer-level courses and the pre-transfer course will improve the likelihood of the student completing the transfer-level course within a year, colleges cannot place students into pretransfer courses, according to a CCC memorandum on AB 705 implementation. It is the college’s duty to offer the students in remedial classes if they would benefit.
The Roundup reported that at the Sept. 17 Academic Senate meeting at Pierce College,
“All college students must now enter at the English 101 transfer level…AB 1705 removed developmental courses like our English 28, wrongly assuming that all community colleges’ placement procedures failed them.” English Professor Karin Burns added on.
Community colleges are all about filling in the gaps, providing a wider range of support that might not be affordably or easily found elsewhere.
Academic support services, such as tutoring, are offered on campuses, but the option of remedial coursework should remain as a choice for students.
California community colleges are a place of opportunity for the campus’ surrounding communities, and should continue to offer classes to meet the diverse needs of all students.
While some say they are meant to help and give students more support or a better understanding of the material, other evidence suggests strongly that remedial courses offered at colleges are doing more harm than good for students.
While some students enjoy the social aspect and the enrichment of attending college, many students want to zoom through it and get a degree or certificate. Jobs require lots of time,. Remedial college courses can slow people down.
“Students who placed into the lowest level math course (Remedial Math) did slightly worse than their peers who were assigned to the next highest course, as they earned 3.0 fewer college level credits than their peers by the end of their third year.” reported The National Center for Post Secondary
So now this is not just about “slowing down” a student’s journey toward a degree or a new career, it is putting more pressure on students to the point where many of them give up. Many of these students do not actually need the remedial courses they are forced to take. Students forced to take them grow frustrated and tired, and eventually drop out.
“...fewer than one in 10 graduate within three years.”
stated Anne Kim in her article “Getting College Remediation Reform to the Finish Line”
Many campuses offer free tutoring. These courses arealready adding to the ever-growing cost of tuition and textbooks. These evidently unnecessary courses, they become the straw that breaks the camel’s back, causing a high number of students to drop out. These are only a handful of the reasons that remedial classes should not be forced onto college students.
A look into the archives: 70 years of the Roundup
On November 6, 1975, the Roundup published Vol. 43, Issue 7. There were discussions about banning women from wearing shorts on campus in 1958. Both shorts and skirts were labeled as “Whistle Bait” by author Ann Marr, and were deemed to be inappropriate attire.
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Curriculum standardization causes a stir
By Matthew Stuart Reporter
The Pierce College Academic Senate adopted a new code of conduct for using artificial intelligence (AI) in the classroom during its meeting on Nov. 4 in the Great Hall.
The new guidelines for professors state that they may choose to allow or disallow AI use within their classes.
Despite the motion to accept the new code passing unanimously, multiple professors, like Distance Education Professor Wendy Bass, expressed concerns with how programs like Turnitin detect AI.
“You should always have a meeting with a student and discuss what may have
looked like AI, but it’s not,” Bass said. “Students who know English as a second language are getting tagged, and so we have to be really careful.”
The attending senators held different views on how AI should be used, with professors like Bass who encouraged it in some regard and others who opposed any sort of AI use in academic work.
Physics Department Chair
Travis Orloff supported the new guidelines as they allowed professors to have more input in how they operate their classrooms.
“Some faculty love AI and want you to use it in all of their assignments and some faculty hate AI and don’t want it to be used at all,” Orloff said. “So we just want
to be aware that different faculty members have different policies when it comes to AI and to be sure that you understand what your particular professor’s policy is.”
In addition to the new rules on AI, the senators chose to pause the implementation of California Assembly Bill 1111, which would call for a standardization of course numbering and naming across all 116 community colleges in California.
Jennifer Moses, a psychology professor at Pierce, pushed for the bill to be paused, not because of the way the bill was written, but because of how it has been implemented.
“They said, now we have to have a common course curriculum, and so now
we have to adopt all the same classes all up and down the state, but then they didn’t negotiate any comprehensive transfer agreements,” Moses said.
“So now we have this implementation, which is, everybody has to teach the exact same classes now with the exact same content, but they’re still not going to count the same.”
The bill could confuse students who intend to transfer as some classes could be transferable to one school but not another, according to Moses.
The next Academic Senate will be held on Monday, Nov. 25 in Building 600.
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Pierce College Library hosts misinformation workshop
By Daisy Aguinada Reporter
The Pierce College Library hosted a misinformation workshop on Wednesday from 2 to 3 p.m. in the Library Classroom that was organized by Pierce Services and Reference Librarian Melissa Cober. The session aimed to enhance students’ information literacy skills and how to detect false information.
The workshop covered topics such as identifying fake news, understanding media bias, and practicing lateral reading, a technique used by professional fact-checkers.
“We’re going to be talking about what fake news and misinformation are and what they look like in practice,” Cober said. “Then we’ll talk about news media bias. The biggest thing I want students to learn is a technique called lateral reading.”
Cober highlighted the importance of improving these skills for students.
“There’s an opportunity for a lot more students on campus
to build up their information literacy skills,” Cober said.
The primary goal of the workshop was to equip students with the tools necessary to
navigate online information effectively and discern truth from misinformation,.” Cober said. “This workshop is to make sure that students are better able
to navigate information on the web.”
Looking ahead, Cober plans to continue these valuable workshops next semester,
focusing on literary analysis, Al in research and citation skills.
Librarian Melissa Cober
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teaches a Misinformation Workshop in the Pierce Library in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 30, 2024.
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Transfer Day (continued
transfer process or the abundance of options.
“I am very overwhelmed by the amount of colleges that I can apply to and the requirements,” Nguyen said. “By having this transfer fair I get a little bit more educated and I have a better sense of where I want to go, what I want to do, and how to get there.”
Nguyen believes doing research on their own, making an educational plan, or going to see college counselors, can be beneficial in their own right. However, Nguyen believes transfer fairs are just as impactful if not more than personal research.
“Attending college transfer fairs where you learn more about colleges from people who are actually from those colleges and have a better sense than just the basic Google search because a lot of the time all colleges have up are frequently asked questions,”
Nguyen said. “If you want to go into depth then it’s better to talk to someone and actually connect with them.”
Pierce College student Victoria Plato feels as if the transfer process can be overwhelming for her as well. With her still deciding between colleges, she likes that colleges show what is offered to the student.
“When I came here I was really overwhelmed because I wasn’t really sure about what school I wanted to go to and I’m still kind of on the fence about it,”
Plato said. “I kind of have one in mind, but I also want to pursue a master’s degree.”
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Community members cast their votes at Pierce
Voters say the on-campus voting center makes participation convenient
By Alfonso Vargas Reporter
With Election Day just around the corner, early voting was available at Pierce College in Building 600.
Pierce had voting stations from Saturday, Nov. 2 to Monday, Nov. 4 from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. where community members could vote.
Undeclared major Oswaldo Jimenez found the process of early voting easier than expected.
“It was different than I thought, especially because it’s my first time voting,” Jimenez said. “I thought it would be a little bit more old school in a way but it was electronically and it was easier and friendlier for me to use.”
Jimenez said he wanted to use his voice.
“I voted to make my voice heard. So I hope that it is, and that the candidates and the propositions benefit the people,” Jimenez said.
Community member George
Paler thought it was convenient to vote at Pierce.
“I like the process of early voting, and I like Pierce because I live down the street, so it’s really convenient for me to come here,” Paler said.
Paler added that he dislikes
mail-in ballotsw but likes the ability to vote a few weeks before the election which makes it more convenient for people.
Alexander Miranda, a community member, believes people should vote so they can have a voice in the decisions that are made.
“Early voting is the way to go because you get to securely put in a vote in a drop box and get to track it and know your ballot is counted and it is better than mailing in a ballot not knowing if it ever gets there,” Miranda said.
Paler believes his vote can help the election.
“By being counted, that’s how it helps the election, make sure that as many people come out and vote for whatever issue that they feel is the most important. That’s how we express our opinions,” Paler said.
Karen DiBiase said voting is a way to help make a change.
“I think it’s important to support your views, and if you don’t vote, you should not argue or complain about something that’s not going your way,” DiBiase said. “Voting is your way to make a change and make your opinions known.”
Early voters make their vote at different Ballot Marking Devices for the 2024 Election, on Nov. 3, 2024, at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif. Hanna Van Der Gugten / Roundup News
Counselor of Grand Canyon University Dayna Marble talks to a student about the school’s admission requirements during the Transfer day event at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 30, 2024.
Photo by Karla Delgado
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Nuestra Comunidad presta ayuda
A program for Latinx/Chicanx students to be successful on campus
By Nathalie Herrera Reporter
Pierce College has launched Nuestra Comunidad on campus, a program for Latinx/Chicanx students to have a safe space, a sense of community, and a place to ask questions and get answers.
After being hired last spring, Diego Paez has been tasked with bringing Nuestra Comunidad to life after many years of the school attempting to build a program of this kind.
“They had been trying to get this program going for maybe, like a year or two, and they were finally able to, you know. Once they hired me, they were finally able to get it going.” Paez stated.
“I’ve just been trying to get the word out. We call it a soft opening right now”.
Paez described the program’s mission as helping students connect to one another and giving access to resources they may need, such as study spaces, mentorship programs and tutoring.
“Students can come in, they can do homework, they can, you know, hang out, they can eat in here. It’s really just this space for the students” Paez stated. “We can connect students to… [if] they’re interested in maybe getting connected to another resource. For example, like the peer mentorship program or tutoring, or mentoring, anything like that”.
Paez continued to explain that the importance for Latinx/ Chicanx students is to be connected to the campus and to support and encourage the students, especially since many students may be the first in their families to attend college and need help with learning about what is available to them.
Nuestra Comunidad strives to provide those answers for them.
“It’s really to foster that sense of belonging on campus, and when students feel connected to their campus, it’s been shown that they tend to do better in their classes,” Paez explained.
“Since a lot of students are first generation, especially within the population that we’re serving, they don’t have many people they can go to to help them figure out how to navigate higher education”.
Associated Student Organization President Jasmine Minchez explained that a big motivation for creating space for the Latinx/Chicanx community is that it provides representation on campus.
“Our new students who are coming into college and maybe haven’t had the experience of physical presence on campus, you know, maybe they don’t feel super tied to the physical community on campus” Minchez stated. “How can we provide that resource for them? So I think that’s where Nuestra Comunidad came in.”
When it comes to having the
program on campus, Minchez describes that it is especially important for the students on campus that commute from home to school.
“These physical spaces I think are important for commuters, especially because they are commuters,” Minchez stated. “ Like, if you are coming to school, and then you have to think about where you’re going to be for the next six hours, what to do until you can go home to get picked up, or, you know, until you can take the bus back.”
Business administration major Nicole Llerena explained that she has not heard of the program herself but she believes it is important for students to have access to. She added that she thinks this program will help unite students on campus and motivate them.
“I think it’s definitely a very interesting program that will help a lot of students feel a lot more united with the college community and definitely meet a lot more people that are similar to them,” Llerena stated. “So, it’s probably going to make them more motivated overall to come to college and to form a better relationship to life.”
The program also hosts events for students on campus, including for Latinx/Chicanx traditions or holidays. Nuestra Comunidad is located at the Multicultural Center and is open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Monday through Friday.
Melanie Jurado / Roundup News Nuestra Communidad Coordinator Diego Paez at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Nov. 1, 2024.
(Upper Left):
Administrative Assistant Chellse Gonzales dresses as a Hufflepuff student and shows off the Hufflepuff Common Room in the Alder buidling at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 31, 2024.
(Right): Hogwarts decorations envelop the Administrative offices located in the Alder Building at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 31, 2024.
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Administration channels witchcraft and wizardry
The Adler Building went through a complete transformation this Halloween season. Students who were lucky enough to visit the administration offices were instantly transported to Hogwarts, the fictional boarding school for witches and wizards in the Harry
Potter franchise. Enchanted decorations filled the offices and staff members adorned costumes of their favorite magical characters. Due to the staff’s dedication, the office was shrouded with a sense of wonder and fantasy.
Professer Snape (Dean of Math and Sciences Donna Mae Villanueva) casts an “Avada Kedavera” spell on Professor Dumbeldore (Senior Administrative Assistant David Valentino) in the Adler Building at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 31, 2024.
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(Upper Left): Administrative Assistant Lisa Dalati dressed as Sybill Trelawney interprets the meaning of the tea leaves in the Adler building at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 31, 2024.
(Right): Hogwarts themed candy is up for grabs at the Hogsmeade corner of the Administrative offices located in Alder building at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Oct. 31, 2024.
Women’s volleyball loses match against Bulldogs
By Nathalie Herrera Reporter
The women’s volleyball team went against Allan Hancock on Nov. 1, resulting in a win for the Bulldogs 3-0.
The first set began with a consistent rally between the Bulldogs and Brahmas, the Brahmas were able to catch up to them, ultimately ending the first set with a 25-20 win for the Bulldogs.
Outside hitter Irene Cordova explained that a reason for their loss was the rapid decline in the team’s energy.
“I feel like we started off really strong. It was actually very quick. It just kind of went like the energy went down, and I feel like that’s what cost us the second and third set” Cordova states.
During the second set, the Brahmas struggled on recovering each spike that was thrown their way, with the set ending in a 25-16. Middle blocker Kandace Bowens and Cordova,noticed communication was improved during this game.
“But today, we just started off so great, and communication definitely has improved along the way.” Cordova stated. “I feel like communication and also like body language, like it was almost having that positive, like, thought process, definitely” Bowens added.
Ultimately the third set ended with a loss for the Brahmas with a 25-9 score. Assistant Coach Natalie Ento explained that a big factor was a starter being injured before the game, causing the team to feel nervous.
“It was a tough game because one of our girls in the starting lineup got injured right before the game started, so the girls kind of started off a little shaky,” Ento explained.
Despite the team’s loss, Ento believes that the team’s skills
Mission reigns over Pierce 3-0
By Jonathan Wheelock Reporter
After a steady first half of Pierce defense, Mission College slipped through and scored three goals in the second half, winning them the game.
Head Coach Julio Castillo said he feels the team has difficulty keeping its cool.
within a minute and a half.
Shortly after the three saves, Mission made their way through Pierce’s defense and scored the first goal of the game.
Defender Steven Gonzalez felt this first goal was when the team started to get discouraged.
have been making improvements within themselves, and is focusing on those wins rather than the amount of games the team wins.
“We had, like I said, consistent passing throughout the whole match and our serving, I think, was pretty efficient for the game.” Ento stated. “ I think, you know, that was a tough team that we played, and after a run that they had, it kind of, you know, we kind of crumbled on that run,”
“But I think that this team is continuing to show resilience, slowly but surely throughout the season. So we’re making improvements.” Ento stated.
“We were just talking to them about their discipline and they’re really coming together more as a team, even though it’s not really reflecting in our season record.”
The Brahma’s next home game is on Nov. 6 at 6:00 P.M.p.m. against Cuesta College.
“In the second half, after we allowed the first goal, everything started falling apart for us,” Castillo said. “It’s been that type of season where we allowed a goal and all of a sudden, we do not get it out of our system. After the first goal, all of a sudden, here comes the second one, and the third one… It’s like a snowball, the more it rolls, the bigger it gets. And that’s how we feel.”
Pierce started the game with two saves in the first five minutes, with an additional unofficial save coming from Pierce’s Noel Velasquez.
After a series of offsides and fouls, the first half ended with neither team scoring.
Soon after the start of the second half, Goalie Arnoldo Hernandez made three saves
“I think it’s the first goal when we all put our heads down,” Gonzalez said. “I think we could have done way better in the second half.”
Mission’s second goal was scored by Midfielder Jeff Jaimes with an assist by Midfielder Jonathan Gallardo.
Three substitutions and two saves by Hernandez later, Mission was able to score their third and final goal of the game with about five minutes left in the game.
Pierce Forward Damian Lopez felt the second half went poorly, but feels the team needs to keep moving forward.
“We were trying to keep our head up, but it didn’t work out,” Lopez said. “Things happened. We just got to practice and get back to work.”
Marzia Rankin / Roundup News Pierce College player Nicole Oghlian (#1) prepares to spike in a game against Allan Hancock in the South Gym at Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif., on Nov. 1, 2024.
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Pierce College forward Damian Lopez (#11) runs with the ball in a game against Mission College at Shepard Stadium in Pierce College in Woodland Hills, Calif.,on Nov. 1, 2024.