Porscherama 1970 March

PORSCHERAMA March ~07o

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I ’ I( IIT 11111" "" JIM EWING

editor

545-6859

ANN EGAN

co-editor

475-3664

DAVE KALBACH

associate editor

388-5043

\/~ In’re expanding. This month our insides have a full feature ~ ~tarticle. Albeit, written by the Editor, but with a large assist from Paul Oxman, whose Austin Healy is I’eatured, and Dave Kalbach, whose photographs are featured. If you don’t know Paul, he’s a jolly fellow who’s waistline bespeaks emminent success in his racing poster business. He and wile Pat are shortly or Iongly, depending on which one you are talking to, expecting their firstborn. Another little Oxman to write about will be a good thing.

Please note our new back outside cover. We had listed the Club events there, as well as in Calendar, inside. All the handier to jog your memory and get you out for our meetings and events.

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This month the editors went wild with photographs. A late night session at the Porscherama Studios at 500 Mariposa resulted in our offerings within the book.

DAVE KALBACH

president"

388-5043

BOB CO(SEN

vicepresident

CR4-2582

secretary

869-7842

treasurer

790-6976

GEORGE GEDEON LYNN BOCKEMOHLE

A new item is our "Mechanic ol~ the Month" award. Gentleman Joe Schneider is our first recipient. That’s a Kalbach photo oi: Joe and his merry band ol~ engineers.

Hope to have a road test ol~ Vern Coverts 904 one of these months.

Keep reading. ¯ ~ l.~ , ~lll~ ~ ~l~’~rl A ~ ~1~

CLIFF YOST

membership

327-5651

DAVE ANDERSON is a musician with a ’67 911S. He and wife Olive live in the Palisades. 459-1219.

RON RAMAGE

activities

781-~737

JIM MAVROGENIS is an engineering manager from Torrance.

TRW, he is managing a ’67 silver 911. 371-8529.

DICK KODANI

technical

NEI-4720

ANN EOAN

publicity

475-3~2

JOE SCHNEIDER

chairman of the board

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TIL NOEGGERATH is in personnel administration and drives a silver ’60 S coupe. A new member from Pasadena. See you at the Westwood Ho on the second Monday. 255-1855.

New Addresses:

641-4345

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for advertising rates contact Dave Kalbach Days: 381-6161 Eves: 388-5043

The Friesen’s

157 C Casuda Canyon Monterey Park

Peter Luelsdorf

17772 Acacia Tree Lane I rvine 861-8238

The Newest Addition: ELIZABETH ANN BEVAN. The second little Porsche Pusher [o~ JOHN and CONNIE. Dues all paid up we understand.

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’ve been trying to put a lengthy cohesive thought on paper for this editorial.

The results are not breathtaking, because it seems I’ve had many short subjects on my mind of late (No, Kalbach, not ininiskirts). So here follow some thoughts on various topics automotive .... just thoughts, no messages.

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Book Review- All of you who remember David E. Davis Jr, raise your hands!

Ahh, the "cognoscenti’."’ For those of you whose arms didn’t fairly leap off the mattress, I will explain. Dave Davis use to edit and write for Car and Driver. His writing was gangbusters. Then he made a couple of Corvai~-commercials for Chevrolet and it seemed like downhillsville after that. I’m sure it wasn’t downhillsville to Dave, but as a Davis aficionado, I just saw less and less of his work. I heard he started an advertising agency. Then he wrote some columns for Sports Car Graphic. Then .... well I don’t know after that.

Anyhow, C. D. Yearbook " 1970 just re-published DavisJ greatest piece, to my way of thinking. It’s a road test of the BMW 2002. With characters like Bill Everykid and Kevin Acne and Marvin Sweatsock in it, it can’t be all bad. It’s now on your local newstands. Read it there if you don’t want to buy. But careful; when your laughing that hard it’s easy to pick your pocket.

I drove back from San Francisco last Saturday. Ran along for awhile with a 911T. We liked 85 MPH alot. And since there were no gendarmes about, why not. Every so often we ran up against the Great American Rambler doing 55 in the left land, passing a Fellow A. M. Special going full chat at 54. Egad!

Auto safety came to mind, along with large closing rates. Closing rates?... that’s it. Freeways are safer, they say. Sure, they chopped the closing rates way down ... more time to control, etc. I admit I get ecstatic over purely pedestrian discoveries some times. Great for the ego though. I remember in Michigan at age 17 with an old Ford. You passed somebody on a lumpy narrow road and went like hell to avoid the imminent front ender with the guy closing on you at 120 MPH in the left lane. So why not go like hell to avoid the imminent rear ender with the guy closing in back of you at 30 MPH but only 2 car lengths away, not 20. Ever hear that in driver’s training? I didn’t. How about a new campaign? "Stickyour foot in it and live. "Go ahead and wail, ~won’t go to jail!"

Nothing wrong with "absolute" speed as long as it isn’t very h igh "relative" to some’Aunt Martha parked in your lane trying to sort out the full meaning of life at 4.5 MPH. Speaking of highway safety, two items. One; this month’s club meeting will have films of dummy crash testing by some very un-Naderish type fellows from UCLA. It ought to be very exciting. And, two, I hear tell some exciting rides were to be had at Riverside last weekend. A lot of broken machinery won’t do anyone much good, I guess. Broken people are a bigger problem.

Guess the natural PCA philosophy at Willow seems pretty good.

Back to the mundane world of publishing. Since more of anything good is always gooder, we added four more pages this month. Room for a feature.

And advertising. Now we need contributors. Photograph, art, features, advertising, you name it. Please send it on. Our address is on the new back cover.

Let’s Hear It and Above All, Have Fun" JIM EWING

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CALENDAR

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PREVIEWS 1

SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE MEMBERSHIP

THE MARCH MEETING IS GOING T~ O BE A REAL GREAT EVENT FOR~ ALL MEMBERS THE TOPIC IS ONE~

The March meeting for the general membership

THAT SHOULD CONCERN EACH AND D EVERYONE OF US AS SPORTS C

is special in that special interest subject will be covered.

AR DRIVERS BECAUSE OF ITS IMP’~ ORTANCE WE ARE COMBINING TH E MARCH TECH MEETING WITH T

The Meeting. At the WESTWARD HO. Pasadena.

Our guest speaker will be MR. PHILIP HIGHT of TRAUMA RESEARCH GROUP - UCLA. He will be speaking at the meeting on auto crash and auto salty programs set up with ITTE. The show will include scientific films and research conducted on what happens during an automobile accident.

We Are Serving ii Oz Top Sirloin, Salad, Beverage, Wine, Etc. Fare--S5.50 including Tax &Tip. REMEMBER, THE Tech meeting for March is being combined with the general meeting.

The get together will start around 7:15-7:30 with dinner being served at 8:00. The general meeting will start at 8:00-8:15. ALTHOUUGH YOU DO NOT HAVE TO COME TO DINNER TO ATTEND THE MEETING .... RESERVATIONS SHOULD BE MADE TO INSURE SEATING, BOTH FOR DINNER AND THE MEETING. PLEASE CALL EITHER: Bob Cogan 277-3655 days Dave Kalbach 381-6161 days FOR RESER.VATIONS.

388-5043 nights

HE MARCH GENERAL MEETING ND IT WILL BE ENJOYED ..’~.~_ wrapBY THE GIRLS TOO how t o get there FIRST YOU l-IA VE TO FIND A FREEWAY THAT GOES TO PASADENA I KNOW THAT THIS IWAY BE HARD SEEI w~£~r~ NG AS THERE ARE NOW TWO BUT YOU W ILL JUST HAVE TO TR Y IF YOU PICKED THE OLD ONE YOU WILL BE IN LUCK FOLLOW IT UN TIL IT CHANGES INTO A REGULAR STREET SEE MAP FOLLOW FOR A PPROXIMATELY TWO BLOCKS GIVE OR T AKE A BLOCK TO CALIFORNIA THERE YOU WILL FIND T HE WESTWARD H O BE SURE AND PARK BEHIND TH CAR WASH IF YOU WANT TO SAVE T HE Z5 tip THAT P ROTOCAL DICTAT ES YOU GIVE TO THE PARKING AT ANG~L~3

THE MARCH EVENT DER SCHATZ DEM SEERAUBER MONTE CARLO TREFFEN It’s a treasure hunt and Monte Carlo RaIIye combined. A challenge to say the least. Saturday, March 21. 1:30 PM. DENNY’s , behind UNION STATION. There will be no Sunday traffic. That’s a promise the club will keep, unless you get lost. Then there’s no guarantee.

But you Viii Hal Fun, Und Der Instructions Viii be Clear. After all in a Monte Carlo Rallye you know where all the checkpoints are.

What could be easier?

Be sure to bring your shovel, a brace of pistols to fend off road agents, compass, and who would be complete without their eye patch or bandana? And BRING PLENTY OF MAPS. Tariff and duty only $3. 00 for PCA members. Others $3.50.

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A MONSTROUS esterday I took a ride with fellow PCA member Paul Oxman and his new Austin Healy. "New" is a relative term here. It’s new to Paul.

Perhaps the car was manufactured in 1960 or so, I really couldn’t say, except that it has been remanufactured a couple of times due to apparent shunts and some malpractice imposed on its 4 cylinder motivation over the years,

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Before I go on I should say that Paul has not given up the Porsche cause for something as decidedly un-teutonic as an Austin Healy; no way. In fact, the Blue 911 will enjoy a somewhat more leisurely and less workaday existence. The Healy to fill in for some day-to-day driving. Paul has lusted after a Healy for some years now. I can understand this. I had a friend at Cornell with a red Healy. It was always my idea ol= one of the most beautiful and affordable sports roadsters ever built. My friend Kip and I were electrical engineering students, He was measurably better at it than I. However, he had bad exams once in awhile, that rivalled the run-ol=-themill stuff I turned out. Short oi’ some lurid sexual conquest with a not-unsuspecting liberal arts coed, the best release from academic frustrations was a bloody wail through the New York countryside. No matter what the weather, it had to be in the Healy with the.top down. We had the natives on to the maximum extent. We suckered the farmboys in their hotted up "¢heevies" into every reverse camber

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corner we knew. We blew off every ex-works John Deere we could find, and generally made light of the potential ruin we were courting. No matter that in winter some of th is called for high speed four wheel drifts equal to the toughest Monte Carlo Alpine sections. What the hell, Kip knew how to push that car th rough~ anything, and I knew when to enter into serious negotiations with the late great Saint Christopher. Between the three of us we were invincible. We didn’t know much about lines and apexes, or that the curvy road we had just negotiated was I’ull of "chicanes," "sweepers," etc. We just loved the car and drove like there was no tomorrow.

So the first look at Paul’s car took me back to Healy days. Paul’s Healy is early silver with fresh black tonneau and top. Having forgotten some o1’ the more intimate details ol= the marque, I wasn’t quite ready for the flexibility oi’ it. I just thought about it I=or a moment and the side windows fell off in my hand. I meditated longer and the windscreen followed. I rested an errant elbow on that innocent looking string running through the door innards and the door popped open. Guess I’ve been spoiled with a Porsche as my first sports car.

A.H. had made progress since Kip’s model. For all the siinplicity o1’ this Healy, the Britons had incorporated some sophisticated secrets to enhance

CASE OF THE high speed motoring. First ol~ all, there is a toggle switch on the dash that doubled our speed when Paul flipped it down. That’s a real innovation. Saves RPM’s and everything.

The engine seemed to get a mild case ol~ the growlies when the switch was flipped at 2K and 4th gear. But what fun.

The second and truly ethereal advance in automotive science harks back to some research the Navy did in getting submarines to move more swiftly underwater, They found that porpoise ripple their skin as they move, apparently breaking up laminar ~low and reducing drag. At no extra cost, A. H. had included a similar feature on Paul’s model. At speed there were spectacular torsional, lateral and vertical eccentricities at play which, when at their super oscillatory best, created gyrations o1’ the body that clearly shook off any vestige of laminar flow and permitted speeds with full RPM ol~ about 95 MPH (toggle switch down and a complete case o1’ the growlies, ol= course).

A simplistic unified wriggle of the whole bodywork was not where A. H. stopped, however. Since front end lift at high speed is a known problem, they arranged for the bonnet to move appropriately in an opposite direction l~rom the rest of the front end. This helps reduce lift by releasing blasts of trapped hot air from the already over-crowded engine compartment.

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GROWLIES The hot air pours up over the windscreen and sets the driver and navigator’s hair into a sort of natural speed coil, i.e., straight back of your head. The longer your hair, the greater the apparent velocity.

This madness all got together about a half hour after we started on the drive. We had already toured Palos Verdes to take pictures and were headed towards Westwood Village on the freeway. A couple of elderly folks in a Maverick preceded us by about .50 yards. In addition, a particularly fortuitous long underpass loomed ahead. To blow off the maverick was a forgone conclusion, but whether the folks driving it were ready for our style is still debatable.

We had, tll’rough deft maneuvering of the toggle switch, increased our velocity until the speedo was registering somewhere between 90 and "incredible." The anti-lift and air flow systems were working at peak efficiency as we approached the Maverick in the hot lane, and entered the underpass. As we passed, I caught the driver mouthing the words "my gawd!" as two generally sedate members of the establish ment sporting supersonic hairstyles roared by in a little silver car. The bodywasflailingin all directions at once, There wasn’t a molecule of laminated air within a quarter mile. The navigator, gleefully cycling the little toggle switch, had created a monstrous case of the growlies that went from loud to deafening

in the tunnel each time the bonnet pulled away from the body to dump more excess "lift" on our heads. The driver, feeling his frenetic omnipotence at the moment, bellowed "YA HOOoo" and stuffed his foot into it right on through the fire wall I can hear it now: "martha, we’ve got to get them Hippie kids off the road. We’ll all be killed." Frankly, we laughed like hell all the way up the off ramp.

mr. Edwin Nick Friesen .Jr. went and did it. On February 21, Nick finally tied the not with Cece and joined the lifers. To celebrate the occasion, they passed up the POC Riverside event and toured mexico City. A quiet reception followed the wedding at the Sheraton-Universal Hotel.

WATCH FOR ZENO KLINKER ......... ............... COMING SOON......

Patrazz! Gak! Harumph! Egad!Zounds!

Do not forget to renew your membership for 1970 or you may find your membership dropped. We all hope to* have everyone back with us this year.

The calendar promises lots of excitemerit. Any questions on membership should be addressed to Cliff Yost, Esq. His address to be found with the masthead, up front.

Can a Porsche ENGINE really be taken apart and reconstructed,in one evening Look for the astounding answer soon in Porscherama.

LYNN BOCKEmOHLE returned from MEXICO. His treasurer’s report will be found elsewhere in the rag.

Trophies for the economy run will be presented at the march 9 meeting.

Pewter mugs will be given to the first th ree places.

jim ewing

ORANGE COAST REGION is planning a triptoGermanythismay. The plans are approaching the final stage. Lvs LAX 13 may and returns to same 23 may. Contact Paul Dickey of the OI:R. Regretfully his address was not available at press time.

ORANGE COAST REGION SWAP mEET 15 march at T&m Motors, 8081 Garden Grove Blvd. , Garden Grove.

9;30 Am

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ECONOMY RUN OF JANUARY 25 EVENT CHAIRMAN: RON RAMAGE Position/Name/Miles Error/MP6 Mileage/Car Type I/D. Alan/.029/28.971/C 2/ 6. Mulligan /.096/18.628/911S 3/ R. Wagner/.271 /31.271 /911 4/ G. Gedeon/.383/23.250 / SC 5/ A Grey./.580/20.543 / 912 6/ C. Kuebler/.740/18. 600 / Carrera 2 7/ B. Chalmers/.781 / 22.619/9lIT 8/ R. Elijah / .797 / 15.338 / Rambler, Mclnerny Special 9/ R. Reese/.819/2.5.351 /912 10/ R. Robinson/.998/26.757 / 6~ N 62N II/J. Lewis / 1.040 / 25.540 / Super 12. / R. Boothe/1.334/16. 666/9lIE 13/~N. Minear/1.417/ 25.555/1500 14/P. Luel sdorf/I. 455/16.945/91 IT 15/N.Yarnell/1.611/25.889 / C 16] V. George/2. 714/19.286/911 17/P. Beam/2.840/24.410/912 18/E Sorenstein/3.249 / 22.976 / 912 19/D. Kalbach / 3.534 / 24.361 / 912 20. N. Friesen/4.601/18.551/911 21 / S. Conrad/5.112/19.338/91Is 221 L. Johnson/6.538/29.4381 65C 231 Vern Covertl 8.5341 26..8671 912 241 C. Dunhaml 12.928134.428162N 251 Ann Eclanl no guessl 30.3221 N 26. L. Arnoldl no guessl 30.6671 N

IT’S COMING SOON WATCH FOR IT FOR IT’S FAST! VERN’S 904 + Z EXCLUSIVE FEATURE ROAD TEST. YOU TOO WILL BE BEHIND THE WHEEL AS THE PANORAMA EDITOR TAKES YOU INTO THE NEWEST CREATION FROM PORSCHOP. THE EDITOR KAS BEEN WAITING FOR OVER THREE MONTHS FOR A CHANCE JUST TO SEE THE FABLED CAR,

SEAT...

TO THE DOORS .BUT WE WERE TOLD TI-{AT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SHOOT AND WRITE THE STORY

SOON.

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A TWENTY FIVE PERCENT IMPROVEMENT IN PCA ATTENDANCE AT FASCH ING 1970. ( 5 cars instead of 4)

REVIEWS JANUARY MEETING

Z~fter all our warnings from the President, no one saw /--~ a snake at the Moonfire. But good food, nice people and such were in abundance. Not many of our band were in attendance and Porscherama and the U.S. mail were mostly to blame. The big "P" published late and Uncle sent them all via Bogata, Columbia, sea-mail.

Anyhow, most of us there added the Moonfire to our list of groovy plac.es to go. All organically grown food, long on fruit and fruit juices, including hot-spiced cider after din-din.

Then, the "Corral." It had to be a place Bob Cogen invented. What a sound. It melted my hairspray and everything. The 912 seemed strangely quiet for about two days. All in all a great night.

All in all a great night.

Looking forward to the next occurrance of Brother Cogen’s magic.

THE LOS ANGELES REGION OF PCA HELD ITS MEMBERSHIP MEETING ON 12 JANUARY AT THE ALEXANDRIA AVENUE SCHOOL. PRESIDENT DAVE KALBACH CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 8".10 PM ,ANDASKED FOR REPORTS. VlCE PRESIDENT BOB COGEN ANNOUNCED THAT THE PROGRAM FOR THE NIGHT CONSISTED OF THE MOVIES"SEE HOW THEY RUN" AND "DAYTONA 1968". HEALSO INDICATED THAT° UNEESSTHE MEMBERSHIP PRESENTED SERIOUS OBJECTIONS° FUTURE MEETINGS WOULD BE HELD IN VARIOUS RESTAURANTS IN THE LA AREA. AN INTERESTING AND VARIED SELECTION OF SPEAKERS AND TOPICS WILL BE PRESENTED IN THESE MEETINGS. NO SERIOUS OBJECTIONS WERE VOICED. YRS TRULY HAD NO REPORT AND TREASURER LYNN BOCKEMOHLE° WHO WAS ABSENT HAD REPORTED TO DAVE THAT THE JANUARY BALANCE WAS $1424.44. NEW CAR BADGES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WHO WANT ONE. DICK KODANI° TECHNICAL CHAIRMAN° ANNOUNCED THAT TECH MEETINGS WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE 4th WEDNSDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT BOGGS&McBURNEY. THE JANUARY MEETING WILL BE AT 8PM AND LUBRICANTS WILL BE DISCUSSED. DICK REQUESTED HELP AND IDEAS FOR FUTURE TECH MEETINGS’~.

CLIFF YOST° MEMBERSHIP CHAIRMAN° EXPLAINED PCA’s DUES BILLING POLICY. HE ALSO INDICATED THAT NO SECOND NOTICE WILL BE ISSUED. MEMBERS WHO FAIL TO PAY WILL BE DROPPED AUTOMATICALLY. ANN EGAN° PUBLICITY CHAIRMAN° APOLOGIZED FOR THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO JANUARY PAPER° BUT INDICATED THAT ALL WOULD BE IN ORDER FOR FEBRUARY. THE BOARD CHAIRMAN° JOE SCHNEIDER° HAD NO REPORT FOR THE GROUP.

RON RAMAGE° ACTIVITIES CHAIRMAN° SAID THAT HE WOULD HAVE AN ECONOMY RUN TO IDYLLWILD FOR THE JANUARY EVENT. THE

EVENT WILL START AT L) AM ON 25 JANFROM THE HUDDLE RESTAURANT

AND WILL FINISH AT WELCH’S CARRIAGE INN. VOLUNTEERS FORTHE EVENTS WERE REQUESTED. THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE BOARD AND PRESENTED IN THE PAPER.

THERE BEING NO OLD BUSINESS° DAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THE BOARD MEETING WOULD BE ON 19 JAN AT ANN EGAN’S HOUSE.

GUESTS WERE INTRODUCED AND THE MEETING CONCLUDED. AFTER A "NO COFFEE" COFFEE BREAK WE VIEWED THE FILMS. RE=~IE:TFU L LY SUBMITTED REPECTFULLY SUBMITTED

GEORGE L. GEDEON SECRETARY TREASURERS REPORT THE BANK BALANCE AS OF 16 FEB IS 11!3.06. DUES REFUND FROM THE NATIONAL RELIEVED THIS MONTH IS 610.00.TOTAL CASH

ASSETS ARE 1723.06.

LYNN BOCKEMOH LE

THE MARCH MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL BE HELD AT DAVE KALBACH’S HOUSE. THE ADDRESS IS’.

500 S. MARIPOSA AVE NO 6 LOS ANGELES CAL 90005 213-388-5043 GUESTS ARE WELCOME . PLEASE CALL IF YOU PLAN TO ATTEND SO THAT CHAIRS CAN BE FOUND AND EXTRA GOODIES PROVIDED.

MECHANIC OF THE MONTH CLASSIFIED 1967 912/4 GULFBLAU MIT BLACK INTERIOR & ONLY 30, 000 MILES. Blaupunkt radio AM/FM/SW, carpets, chrome wheels, continental 165 R 15 radials, apare never on ground.

AMCO bumper guards-front & rear. Judson electronic "MAG’~. $4295/OFFER. Ronald C. Reese 43867 N. Elm, Lancaster, CA. 93534... (805)941-8081 SOLEX 40-Pii-4 CARBURETORS like new... $90.00 5 (FIVE) Chrome Wheels 4 I/Z" from ’67 912 Chrome perfect $125 plus shipping. Ronald C. Reese 43867 N. Elm, Lancaster CA., 93534 (805)948-8081.

LUGGAGE RACK.

PCA GIFT SUGGESTIONS PCA Car Badges (ea.)

4 color

$6.00

PCA Standard Emblem Jacket Patch 4 color

$i. 50

LAPCA Region Patch When purchased with car badge or national patch

$2.25

CLUB NAME TAG

(pay on order)

$i.00

UP-FIXING DER PORSCHE (mere) (non-mere)

$3.00 $4.00

PCA Cuff Links I/Z" dla. 4 color

$2.50

PCA "Storm Master" wind-proof cigarette lighter embossed insignia(needs lighter fluid)

$I. 75

PCA Emblem Pin

$i. 75

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