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WORD,S AND THg NASf OT' YOU... DereictNorhe (Kevia) doee very :"rmplicated stuff which I canrt do the bass to! fieviulAll Colins songs are about bei:rg mental... rc:3T AtL SEEMS TO Bg SAPPLII{ING ROUND I{ERETWITE YoUTCRASSTPOIS0N,S AND ALL TEE OTHER SMAtt BANDS.. Kevin:It is good round here tbi.s year but tast year it was only the Sod.z. rc:ARE THERE MANY PUNKS R0UND EERE? E & 6q,gF ge q$e ten in "_8 $ ::ifrffi*'iB3rl'ilfrErih,tlfiil$ai8rgad Andy:Well llike regga€rJoy DivisS.on, ColiniAnything exept heavy netal t rsrltrTou"DO SiG$ UF Wrtg STORTBEATTHOW LOIIG UNTTLL rSA STNGLES OUT? Coli.nlThree to four weeksrlF we sign.
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21'7.79 In Brixtrbn.Crisis are having a neeting witb two Norwegiana to d.iscuss their upconing tour o{ the country.After going to the wrong house we srentually found them aad etarted the j.nterview witE Pg"g:l'g:terrluko and Tony of the basd pfui 6ome mate'. Qi$OW Lo$q HAVE you BEEN GOll{C AS CRISTS? DouS'lWell theres throe orlginal members left nowrteny Leeter aad Merwe J.oet quite a ferr druuunere and a singerrso about the begining of 1g??. Lest;tale used to be good thent
q!SO!{ DID YOg MAI{AGS TO put THE SINGTE O{JT? Doug:WelJ.rwhat happened wqsnPeckhan Action Group rang ua up and askedu.ss to do a march for thenr and thien'canpaiga against the town hall.Wo dld the raarch ,and theo * *u"k or
aga5.n and. saidrrWerre thinking of putting oui a eingle frlso I 1"9"f*!:r-they {aTS-up eald 'IohrFaSttand didnt really thi.nh much moro about tt unltl sudd,en*y th.ey"rung'up again and asked if wetd wrltten anything yet;do I said no.Lester aad f d.ecid.ea,to p[oai Tony because we thought r.re thought they night be ggite.eerious abput the recordrand in 5 eeconds hcrd written the eongs Eio r,!re were atiigUtt Q:WHo WRlTEg. TRE SOi'iGS TREN? Douglghe baeic bits are me and
lonyrbut everyone else puts in their. bit to contribute to it. Leet:IrnyOU the one that nakes then sound good. START-UD,WAS IT BECAUSE you ef,r, Um Tnx sAl,,IE THISC IN CS'IMOI{ p0tlrIfiS-&I,y Sg Q3WSE!{ ! wA.s IT BECAUSS otr"LIKE TEE PUNK THINg? Doug:It r'rae really a nixture of thenn botbrbut what f wleh w&,s tha b the le ft would see ua on thier side instead of the enemy.r nean we feel more alienated at tbier gegs than ordinary ones.They dont gibe. us any breditraad the noney we Set they don I t even d,ona"te in our name! Q:lroULD YOII sAY TIIEN
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Arriye early at Triad, and iato the haIl...oa 6tage rrere tbe baad we were goiag to n-iEs thanks to Brltish Bail aad the great rrlast traj.arrr doiag a souadcbeck.Ilgh.these are tHE trLIIfGOI{Ssa Souxie souad nj-th a BLondie style vocaLiet (?)tlier souadcheck lests about quater oi aa Hour as they throw aborrt a rrierd slow lrunber. foLloved by_a wigrggr slorer. riurutr.M"e{-peopre-lhere-seemed to like thenrbut I thought they were-BoRIIlG.Tbe guttariet kapt poxing atoutrd with sone pedal all the tinertbe base didnt red.ly coatribute aaytbiag tne arunnlug wae goodrthe onJ.y tLiag that didnt keep chopping aad changing all over the place.aad tbe vocale r'refe D,Earry courtesy one D.Earry Lookaiike.If alL tbeir aumlers-are iik;-iGt tirea f i* if"a I nissed- thenraud-if theyrre aoi I caat say Itn sad.GRAf X did a: sourxdcheck aest.Thie wB calJ"ed EaLuciaatioa (possibLy)aad was neally gocd'Shea cane .the tura of tbe LIQX,S (aIies the EpileptS.cs). and after a debate witb prat fror fflj.ngias who doat raa! theo io do it tbeY do. tese tlaa ha.lf an hoqr latei the thiag starts.UnfortuaateJ.y we ra-issed the first GnAtr' X number a€r ue were i:r the pub bJ.t oeparate to the stage'A€ j.t tursed qnrt is $as Ealueiuatir uhlcb wac a bit of a: bLonr.Arynsr the rest of the set is s1n:L].artagaia Sousie etyLerbut they were twice as good ae tbee poxy Klingons.Underrater iE another good lunber aed fhe ffan.tbe baes is inaudblerthe sing:tag is Cxellentrexept for being ratber Souxierthe guitar tigirateyuto use its orruers descriptJ.oareven tbough kl"iagon had to aLter the souadtaad the drunrulag ia tioe even J.f it was very basj.c.Once agala tha idiot fron tha liliagoas succeeded. in beiag a pain up the aree by tel.lilrg them to go off before theyrd firrisbed tluier set.After sone of, the b-side of Cuttthe MESS carae on.A. pretty apt name'that'fbey played aa ayerage eet of average Raaoae souad a3.j-kec aad even dicl Rockaway Beach.tbey seeged, to be enjoyiag itqas did the erosd but it rrasnt- really meaorable_.More Cut and ifter wha,t seeni iig6 an'age the Eeaaon f,or oar aausoth trek out into the couatryrt$E IICK,Srcane oa stage.Shey start rith ASAACEISI Sgrxhich geto a' f,er peopLe aoviagrtbea oa iato lARGET..twoaumbere and theytve k4ocked the reet of the eveaing rtght out the rrindoy. fhey elor dowa for UEIq'.'ALrand Co3.in rolls info a baIL hae fits.lhe souad ieat too great because turd froa the Kliagoas nouldnrt let Eeria uEe his ova f:rzabo*,raad everyoue else hag to ba?e Lon s6].uss.hmA! EAVE IOU GOf TO SHItrE ABOUT?,19?OgTAIDY PANDI,EUBE DISA,StER aLl follou in rapid suceseEionrColin cli.robing off eta6e and geaera!.ly goiag nadiAJ-J. the 99ngs coae-alolg aad ite bard, to eoapare tbea wLth anyoae else.Pr.ehaps a bit AtYieh but they have fouad a geauiae bouad of lhrier otra rdtbout beiag boriagra tuneless rackEt or eLectrriruic.t!$O YEABS TOO lrAtEranother f,aat oaertEBlES(I think)folLorrj.ag on rapldJ-y aad. tbea its SISTB{ RF"trE0?rwhich le elorrsini.lar style toAlternativee on the fret AIV }p, but Ltsabout the nedias treatneat/reactioa to puak.She b:ig ekinhead(somyrno uanc)cones on aad playe second gu:itar.?h5-s j.s the si.aglee b-siderand sJ.owLy builds up into the bionic(?)(oal-y word I can thiak of)BM,SBS sfILL A IIMI.A'fter thi-e seenJ.ngly very short namberrand a eet of around J5 ninutee they neat offlaad we ueat bEck to lhe s,tetJ.oal *oaderlng wbea thie bard xill be in luoldon agaia.
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