Endless Struggle, Number 6, January 1988 by Arm The Spirit

ENDLESS STRUGGLE no.6

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W e l l , here's the 6 t h i s s u e . As you've proba b l y n o t i c e d the t i t l e has changed from 'Secr e t B u r i a l ' . 'Endless S t r u g g l e seemed t o be more d e f i n i t i v e o f the z i n e , or what we'd l i k e i t t o be. Yes, the t i t ~Xe i s from xne OI fendo r s ' Lp. I f you're r e a d i n g t h i s on Jan. 1 s t , 1988, then t h i s e x a c t l y 2 years since I went t o my f i r s t punk gig'. Yep i t was a new years eve g i g w i t h Death S e n t e n ce, I t h i n k Shanghai Dog, I n d u s t r i a l Waste Banned, DOA, & Witches Hammer. Quite an expe r i e n c e . . . my body ache d f o r days & I thought my ears would never stop r i n g i n g . I d i d n ' t have any b i g i d e a s about Punk, i n f a c t I was s t i l l i n the Army*. '85 rpm' r a d i o show was a great s u p p l i e r o f music & ideas. I had been i n v o l v e d i n t h e m i l i t a r y since I was lk when I j o i n e d cadets. I rose i n rank q u i c k l y & was t h e RSM o f my corp. I j o i n e d the m i l i t i a a t 18. I had completed t h e Canadian Forces parachuti s t course (great experience;, t r a v e l l e d to the a r c t i c , gone t o USMC bases i n San Diego... I was a l l set t o e n l i s t i n the r e g u l a r f o r c e s . But t h e more I l i s t e n e d t o what was s a i d i n punk, t h e more I sympathised w i t h it. Every t r a i n i n g nig. h t I would see war-mongers , power hungry i d i o t s r a c i s t s , s e x i s t s . . . I eve n x u a l l y a u i t i n the summer o f '86. I have n o t b l i n d l y f o l l o w e d some l y r i c sheet, but I have had my eyes opened. W i t h o u t punk I have no doubt I would now be i n the m i l i t a r y & not here b a b b l i n g about peace & anarchy. I t h i n k t h a t ' s the r e a l value o f punk; i t won't change a w o r l d , but i t helps change the i n d i v i d u a l . I n the end, what's the d i f f e r e n c e ? The a n a r c h i s t ideas are something I myself have o n l y been i n t e r e s t ed i n f o r a few months now. As w i t h most ideas r

& t h o u g h t s , and l i k e o t h e r people, I have , • '• q u i c k l y developed my own c o n c l u s i o n s . The a r t i c l e s themselves are basi c , as I ' d say my own thoughts on the s u b j e c t are a l s o b a s i c . From my • v e i w p o i n t t h e zine w i l l be t a k i n g a much more anarchist direction, & I i n v i t e people t o send i n t h e i r own t h o u g h t s / i d e a s on i t . From issue 1 t h e r e has always been i n f o r m a t i o n on E l Salvador, and i n t h i s issue i s a more'indepth' a r t i c l e on t h e history & situation. I t h i n k i t ' s a war t h a t sh o u l d be f o u g h t . From an a n a r c h i s t v e i w p o i n t I do n o t support the s t r u g g l e i n s e t t i n g up a new governement, but i n destroyi n g the present g o v ' t . s c r u e l & bloody system. I t should be noted t h a t the s i t u a t i o n i n E l Salvador i s s i m i l i a r i n Guatemala, C h i l e , Honduras & many o t h e r c o u n t r i e s the w o r l d over. There won't be so many band i n t e r v i e w s i n f u t ; u r s i s s u e s , perhaps 1 o r 2 a t most. I do f i n d them i n t e r e s t i n g as i n some cases you,can f i n d out what bands'are s h i t , and what are a c t u a l l y a c t i v e o u t s i d e t h e band. An ' a l t e r n a t i v e ' scene should n o t only be a l t e r n a t i v e i n t h e sound o r s t y l e o f music, b u t i n how i t ' s presented ( i e labels, r i p - o f f prices), and what t h a t music cont a i n s i n thoughts & i d eas. Also, I do n o t place t o o much emphasis on music alone, i t i s what.is s a i d & done t h a t should be i m p o r t a n t . I n the Accused i n t e r veiw are some t h i n g s I p e r s o n a l l y disagree w i t h i e ; making a l i v i n g o f f the band. I do n o t want to l i m i t t h i s rag t o only people, bands, o r ideas t h a t I agree w i t h , so t h a t ' s why I i n t e r veiwed them. They're n i c e people, which b r i n g s me t o my f i n a l p o i n t ; ' p o l i t i c s ' may be usel e s s dialogue between gov'ts o r c o u n t r i e s , poli t i c i a n s & people, b u t the most i m p o r t a n t p o l i t i c s i s between p e o p l e . . . Gored.

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Brian Carl, Chris L., D.O.G., Gored, K e i t h Lark., Pat M., Rene, Rot F l e s h , VESAC , Susanne H., Open Road, Jack (Desecration) Baz (Ripcord) Subverse, ' US D i s t r e s s , Accused, , Christ » parade NEXT ISSUE! Who knows? I t ' l l have C h r i s t on Parade, Atav i s t i c , anarchy, animal l i b e r a t i o n . & morel n

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In keeping with t h i s 'zines promise of many viewpoints Here.s Keith's Well,this being the big ANARKIE i s h . i w i l l put some of my thoughts on the table tho they are -: nt as concrete?as gods (Gored) they might give an idea of where my heads at . . . h a . . . , Okay.i think that everybody is e n t i t l e d to some basic rights—human type things like-peacenoone should have the r i g h t to put others down for the sake of petty difference,or for that matter.no one should be allowed the luxury of h a t e . I see no reason for hate,at a l l . A r e these too much to ask? Basic human r i g h t s to l i v e i n freedom... But before vou(hypothe t i c a l l y ) decide that you're gonna'^iberate" yourself from the evils of our society.there are some things we should look at ...read o n . . . I l l s t a r t with the big one-GOV'T."The root of our problems"( so you say)"Its just SO b i g , I can't make a difference'." W e i l . . . t h a t s a great attitude'. With that attitude ,of course you wont!11If you maint a i n that attitude youre .missing the point,wot i s the point??? The point i s that Freedom,Anarky,Peace,or wot ever you efto»e to be your method/goal/lifestyle,is only attainedthruogh a process of changes«-not an instant Revolution// Sure we are a l l slaves, (Prostittutes too!),slaves to g o v ' t , t o media,and most frightening of a l l , t o ourselves. Thats where t h i s "process" has got to begin.YOU carrfc change gov't t i l l you change y o u r s e l f . I mean,if you want "freedom" but you dont want to change your l i f e style . . .forget i t . Y o u ' l l do nothing but become a (oh no) HYPOCRITE,and y o u ' l l end Up perpetuating the system you "say" you're f i g h t i n g . You want a couple examples?... Prime ex. #i-Smokirig-If you smoke , are*nt you aware that 80% (and morel) goes d i r ect to the gov't?5o not only 1

are you supporting the mega corps, that produce the s h i t , but you are freely handing over your bux for gov't consumption. I f you smoke a pak a day thats 650 dollars a year i n tax to the g o v ' t . • thats a l o t of $ torsive to the g o v ' t . WlUiNwTilH. Ex.#2- Alcohol-uh oh,touchy subject...too bad i t s a realr . i t y w i t h a similar s i t u a t i o n . . . i f you go through 2 cases of beer a month thats another 250 bux DIRECT to the rulers of our so called Democracy.The same goes for your nutrasweet f i x . j u n k food f a l l s unaer the same, gov't p o l i c i e s . . . t h e y arent stupid,they get us where we are weak,they h i t us on our vices...excuse me..I do mean "pleasures"... So you cant get away from i t ! Or can you??? Of course you canl'.'. As soon as you real ize that we've a l l bejen programmed to be MASS C0NSUM-ERS jprogrammed to depend on others to provide our necessities , and a l l we got to do i s provide the bux!!! So essentially MONEY i s our cnlv necRssitv now 1 I t ' s not FOOD,nor i s i t CLOTHING,nor is i t SHELTER,...nope,none of t h e s e . . . i t s the l i t t l e colorful piece of paperyou work s 0 hard f o r . . . yikes..scarey eh??? slaves to small pices of paper, yup. •nan. So you turn to an i d e a l , a possible escape,but every one's got t h e i r own idea of "freedom"so there i s no applicable d e f i n i t i o n i s there? I t s an idea,not an i d e a l . And everyone applies i t differently.some s o c i a l l y , some economically,some emot i o n a l l y , and so on...but the important one is the one i n your head.Recognize i t . d o n t follow others ideas(or i d eals) for any reason! I t s dangerous. 1

Now consider wot you're up against^GOV'T.and your cond i t i o n i n g . . .wott' re ya gonna do??Get together with others of similar views?...organize??3cunds l i k e the beginnings of a gov't dorit it??? P o l i t i k s haSent r e a l l y worked has i t ? ever? nope. Its human "nature" to band together* but are leaders necessary?? NO. It's possible to j o i n with people of l i k e mind and s t i l l maintain a sense of equality-The hard part is breaking thru your vices. Be they smoking,drugs,taxes, etc.

ANARCHIST G i_t From C i r c l e w i l l be h o s t i n g t h e a l anarchist conferences. PO BOX 4 3 5 , s'tn P, T o r o n t o

Okay,so you got an idea ofthe s h i t you gotta deal w i t h . « Now ya gotta decide wot yer ' gonna do to keep from becoming a h y p o c r i t i c a l beast!! 1 How?? how indeed ,how does one escape from the evils of society? how do we NOT help i n the perpetuation.of this bloody mess??Well... l i k e I said before,its a process of change,not a revolu^-'-ir^.that t

starts with the individual. You and me.I mean you could s t i l l go out and have fun and not drink, t r y i t ? ' . ! Dont smoke for a b i t you might find i t an i r r r o v e ment.youd probably l i v e longer too.But im not saying that Im perfekt.im just saving THINK ABOUT IT*.! Are your "pleasures" r e a l : / pleasures? or i r e they Vices.??? Finding within ourselves ths strength to t r y to overcome these factors is the f i r s t and HARDEST ftfcapof a l l . As long as you can l i v e l i f e for yourself,without sanking others,then that i s as close as you can get to "freedom" i n the basic sense of the word. Remember,"freedom" cannot be forced on the human race.no• i d a l can,that i s Governments mistake. ;You are a voice,but only i f \ You choose to b e . - ( i ;gu,%h/ / /

..Open -our eye^.See the l i e s ; Tear t;.rough your disguise. IT STARTS WITH YOU. LffiRK. ©j£ Forever For every grain of sand there is a t e a r , . . For every tear there is a c h i l d starving'.. ;• For every c h i l d starving there i s a b u l l e t For every b u l l e t there is a soldier For every soldier theris a death For every death therfeis a grain of sand..i For e v e r . . . . •• L©rk

J u n e l ? - 2 0 , I986 Anarcnis t h i r d i n a s e r i e s o f con tin-: Various t o p i c s . Write to Ont., M5S 2S9, Canada.-

So, what e x a c t l y i s Anarchy? The basic d e f i n i t i o n most A n a r c h i s t s agree on i s s i m p l y ; absence o f Government and a u t h o r i t y . From t h e r e . concepts o f Anarchy and t h e i r i n t e r p r a t a t i o n s branch out i n many, many, d i r e c t i o n s . There are those who pursue the breakdown o f t h e S t a t e by a c t i o n s , o t h e r s withdraw from t h e confines o f t h e g o v ' t , as much as i s possible,-t-those who a t t empt t o l i v e w i t h i n t h e system.

When we look at the powerlessness of the individual and the small face-to-face group in the world today and ask ourselves why they are powerless, we have to answer not merely that they are weak because of the vast central agglomerations of power in the modern, militaryindustrial state, but that they are weak because they have surrendered their power to the state. I t is as though every individual possessed a certain quantity of power, but that by default, negligence, or thoughtless and unimaginative habit or conditioning, he has allowed someone else to pick it up, rather than use it himself for his own purposes. ('According to Kenneth Boulding, there is only so much human energy around. When large orgamsations utilise these energy -csources, they are drained away from the other spheres.') Anarchy attempts t o p u t t h e emphasis on the i n d i v i d u a l , and n o t on the whole of a n a t i o n (as i n communism/democracy). Anarchy i s a s o c i e t y where t h e l i f e o f an i n d i v i d u a l i s up t o her/him t o choose what he/she wishes t o do. I t i s freedom. I t i s opposed t o government and i t ' s a b i l i t y t o f o r c e people t o do as i t demands. Government makes and enforces t h e laws t h a t keer people suppressed, and i t decides what i s f o r t h e good o f the people. I t ' s laws keep t h e r i c h , r i c h , and t h e poor, poor. But, you say, i f t h e m a j o r i t y o f people wanted t o have Anarchy, then they would reach out and grab, i t , and because they haven't, t h e y must be happy w i t h t h e g o v ' t , system. That's a l l t r u e except f o r t h e Gustav Landauer, the German ;.narchist, made a profound and f a c t t h a t g o v ' t , i s now so f i r m l y simple contribution to the analysis of the state and society in one entrenched and holds so much powsentence: 'The state is not something which can be destroyed by a er t h a t i t c o n t r o l s what and how a revolution, but is a condition, a certain relationship between human person w i l l p e r c e i v e something. I t ' s c o n t r o l o f t h e media stops t h e beings, a mode of human behaviour; we destroy it by contractingy people from seeing t r u t h , i t ' s conother relationships, by behaving differently.' I t is we and not an t r o l o f t h e e d u c a t i o n a l system p r o abstract outside identity, Landauer implies, who behave in one way rammes how people w i l l t h i n k and or the other, politically or socially. act. We were c o n d i t i o n e d a t school t o accept t h e presence o f gov't, and accept i t ' s power over us. Anarchy e x c e r p t s from The apathetic and a p o l i t i c a l n a t ure of people today i s a s i g n t h a t in Action'. they b e l e i v e they no l o n g e r have an any c o n t r o l over t h e i r l i v e s or t h e government they c r e a t e d , which was designed t o help w i t h t h e o r g a n i s a t i o n of s o c i e t y , and h e l p i t operate more e f f e c i e n t l y . Anarchy s a i s 7

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no, we do n o t need a s m a l l group o f a u t h o r i t a r i a n , power hungry, and â&#x20AC;˘ s u p e r i o r s ' t o lead us and t e l l us > h a t i s f o r our good. Anarchy s a i s people can. organise" themselves t o l i v e t o g e t h e r , w i t h out an e s t a b l i s h e d a u t h o r i t y . Government decides when we w i l l go t o war, then f o r c e s i t ' s people t o do t h e b a t t l e , by propaganda and by force. Government decides who s h a l l p r o sper and who s h a l l l i v e i n p o v e r t y , Government decides what w i l l be r e p o r t e d v i a the media. Government decides what w i l l be censored, and what w i l l n o t . Government decides what t h e c u r r i c u l u m i n school s h a l l be. Government decides who s h a l l e n t e r or leave i t ' s c o u n t r y . Government decides what i s l e g a l and what i s i l l e g a l , then uses i t ' s p o l i c e and army t o enforce i t ' s laws. Anarchy s a i s t h i s i s a l l up t o each and every i n d i v i d u a l t o decide! I w i l l decide t o l i v e i n peace, I w i l l decide how I s h a l l l i v e , I w i l l decide what t o r e p o r t or seek f a c t s on, I w i l l decide what I wish t o see or read, I w i l l decide what or i f I want t o l e a r n , I w i l l decide where I s h a l l l i v e , I w i l l decide what i s 'wrong' or ' r i g h t ' f o r me to do...no a u t h o r i t y , no g o v ' t . , and no person should ever have the power to decide what I can do!ÂŤ

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The Governed Society Many people have t r o u b l e u n d e r s t anding Anarchy. F i r s t l y because they b e l i e v e i t could n o t keep t h e c o u n t r y as organised ancf as s t a b l e as i t seems t o be, and secondly because they b e l i e v e anarchy t o mean v i o l e n t chaos. They a l s o have t r ouble g a t h e r i n g i n f o r m a t i o n on t h e s u b j e c t because, as Alex Berkmari s t a t e d i n h i s book 'ABCs o f Anarchism' , t h a t " . . . a n a r c h i s t books, w i t h few exceptions, are not access i b l e t o the understanding o f t h e average reader. I t i s t h e common f a i l i n g o f most works...that they are w r i t t e n on the assumption t h a t the reader i s a l r e a d y f a m i l i a r t o a

c o n s i d e r a b l e e x t e n t w i t h the subj e c t . . . . " . Anyone who has s t r u g g l e d through.a K r o p o t k i n or Bakunin essay w i l l a t t e s t t o t h a t ! . F i r s t o f f , l e t us look a t the Governments supposed o r g a n i s i n g q u a l i t i e s , and t o do t h a t I would f i r s t l i k e t o l o o k a t whv and how we are .governed. Why are we governed? I ' d l i k e t o quote from C o l i n Wards' 'Anarchy i n | a c t i o n ' , "Why do people consent t o be r u l e d ? I t i s n ' t only f e a r , what have m i l l i o n s t o f e a r from a s m a l l group o f p r o f e s s i o n a l p o l i t i c i a n s & t h e i r p a i d strong-arm men? I t i s because they subscribe t o -the same values as t h e i r governors. Rulers and r u l e d a l i k e b e l i e v e i n the p r i nciple of authority, of hierarchy, of power. They even f e e l themselves p r i v i l e g e d when, as happens i n a s m a l l p a r t o f the globe, they can chose between a l t e r n a t i v e l a b e l s on t h e r u l i n g e l i t e s . And y e t , i n t h e i r o r d i n a r y l i v e s they keep soc- : i e t y going by v o l u n t a r y a s s o c i a t i c r â&#x20AC;˘

mutual a i d . " Many people a l s o b e l i e v e t h a t g o v ' t . , complete w i t h i t s armies & wars, i t s oppression, i s n a t u r a l and necessary! They act u a l l y b e l i e v e t h e r e i s -no o t h e r way! The s i t u a t i o n o f an a p a t h e t i c and non-questioning s o c i e t y i s designed and upheld by t h e S t a t e . To understand t h i s , l e t ' s l o o k a t t h e s t r u c t u r i n g o f 'main-stream' soci e t y , i n a broad, g e n e r a l sense o f course.

education ? | Education, the process o f a c q u i r i n g knowledge. V o l u n t a r i l y , a most rewarding h a b i t , f o r c e d - i t i s pure drudgery. I n t h e 'advanced, c i v i l i s e d * s o c i e t i e s , s c h o o l i n g i s comp u l s o r a r y . By t h e age we can e a t , walk, t a l k , and use t h e s h i t t e r on our own- we are o f f t o t h e s c h o o l i n g system, where our education i s deci d e d by t h e gov't. m

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" I t e n r o l l s 5-yr olds and t r i e s t o d i r e c t t h e i r mental, and much o f t h e i r s o c i a l , p h y s i c a l and moral development f o r 12 o r more o f t h e most f o r m a t i v e years o f t h e i r l i v e s . " (Mackirmon,'Anarchy i n A c t i o n ' ) . Many p u p i l s a t t e n d u n w i l l i n g l y , r e g a r d i n g t h e education systen w i t h contempt as w e l l as t h e l e a r n i n g o f knowledge- simply because i t i s so r i g i d l y f o r c e d upon them. The scho o l i t s e l f i s based upon a u t h o r i t a r i a n r u l e s , where one i s f o r c e d t o succeed o r f a i l , t o be a 'winner' or a l o s e r ' , t o conform o r be c r ushed w i t h t h e hammer o f s c h o o l i n g . Here one l e a r n s math and language, b u t more i m p o r t a n t l y t o accept and ' r e s p e c t t h e a u t h o r i t y t h e i r 'superi o r s ' have over them. They l e a r n t o obey r u l e s , n o t t o q u e s t i o n . . . t h e y w i l l study wars and t h e ' h e r o i c ' men who f o u g h t them, t h e y ' l l study H i t l e r s n a z i g o v ' t . , w i t h o u t once r e a l i s i n g t h a t H i t l e r s g o v ' t , was indeed almost t h e p e r f e c t government. The p e r f e c t war-machine w i t h a n a t i o n o f slaves t o support i t . I n school we l e a r n the need f o r g o v ' t . , t h a t we need a u t h o r i t y and a l l i t s ' l e a d e r s ' , p o l i c e , and

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armies. And here I s where one l e a rns t h a t you must be a p a r t o f the systems machine i f you wish t o eat & have s h e l t e r , the basic needs o f any humin.

work The most i m p o r t a n t p a r t o f any gov'ts system i s labour. The machine needs t h a t labour t o keep i t g o i n g , t o keep i t a l i v e . And because we are a p a r t o f t h a t machine, we need i t t o remain a l i v e . People"" are f o r c e d t o work, t o slave away • f o r t h e i r employer. This f o r c e d • l a b o u r i s an e x c e l l e n t method o f • keeping the masses busy, and a t the same time r e - e n f o r c i n g the idea t h a t g o v ' t , i s necessary. "The s p l i t between l i f e and work i s p r o a b a l y the g r e a t e s t contemporary s o c i a l problem. You cannot expect men t o take a r e s p o n s i b l e a t t - j i t u d e and t o d i s p l a y i n i t i a t i v e i n • d a i l y l i f e when t h e i r whole working experience deprives them o f t h e ch- • ance o f i n i t i a t i v e and r e s p o n s i b i l ity. The p e r s o n a l i t y cannot be s u c c e s s f u l l y d i v i d e d i n t o watert i g h t compartments, and even t h e a t tempt t o do so i s dangerous; i f ' a man i s t a u g h t t o r e l y upon a p a t e r n a l i s t i c a u t h o r i t y w i t h i n the f a c t o r y, he w i l l be ready t o r e l y upon one outside...The contemporary s o c i a l t r e n d towards a c e n t r a l i s e d , patern-; a l i s t i c , a u t h o r i t a r i a n s o c i e t y only r e f l e c t s c o n d i t i o n s which a l r e a d y e x i s t w i t h i n the f a c t o r y . (Gordon T a y l o r ' " A r e workers human?"). Most people are not s a t i s f i e d w i t h work s i m p l y because-it i s n o t . t h a t they want t o , but r a t h e r they must. The i l l u s i o n o f gov't., i s t h a t i t keeps s o c i e t y f l o w i n g smoothly. I t i s something t h a t i s needed. Any * thoughts t o the c o n t r a r y are q u i c k l y c o r r e c t e d by media d i s t o r t i o n s / h a l f t r u t h s o f s i t u a t i o n s , and g o v ' t , l i e s and cover ups. The people are k e p t busy w i t h t h e i r work, t h e y ' r e k e p t busy w i t h the huge e n t e r t a i n ment i n d u s t r y , . . Joe b i o on t h e s t r e e t consider a l t e r n a t i v e s t o t h e

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governed s o c i e t y he l i v e s i n ? Prep o s t e r o u s ! Why- h e 1 1 be working a l l day, then he's gonna watch the f o o t b a l l game on t v , o r go b o w l i n g . A l i f e o f ignorance, he has no con"cept o f l i f e w i t h o u t g o v ' t , o r b i g business- l e t alone q u e s t i o n . i t . The g r e a t e s t arguement f o r Gov't, and a g a i n s t anarchy, i s t h a t i t ( g o v ' t . ) prevents crime, and t h a t i t ' s p o l i c e and p r i s o n s keep t h e o r der. Fmmm- what are some o f the mos most common crimes? B u r g l a r y , t h e f t s h o p l i f t i n g , drugs,- p r o s t i t u t i o n , r o b b e r i e s . . . r e p o r t e d everyday i n the p r e s s . What's the basic m o t i v a t i o n f o r these 'crimes'? Money! And the ' c r i m i n a l s ' ? The ' u n d e r p r i v e l ego-d' , the poor,- t h e r a c i a l minori t i e s , unemployed y o u t h , the people most fucked over by the gov't.s system t h a t c a t e r s t o the r i c h and b i g business. The g o v ' t , causes the problems i t claims i t s o l v e s ! Thats why and how we are governed; w i t h an armed f o r c e o f p o l i c e and s o l d i e r s , w i t h the c h a i n of work around our necks, but most i m p o r t a n t l y , w i t h t h e planned and c a l c u l a t e d i l l u s i o n t h a t g o v ' t , i s necessary. J

violent? Much o f the t h i n k i n g t h a t anarchy i s v i o l e n t chaos o r i g i n a t e d i n the l a t e 1800s and e a r l y 1900s. Anarchy was once a major movement i n Europe, i t produced some o f the g r e a t a n a r c h i s t t h i n k e r s - Bakunin, Kropot k i n , Prodhoun, and I suppose they c o u l d almost 'smell a r e v o l u t i o n i n | t h e wind', e s p e c i a l l y w i t h the I n d u s t r i a l r e v o l u t i o n developing a t a v e r y b r i s k pace. The workers t r a d e unions was a very p o w e r f u l f o r c e . The a n a r c h i s t s were a major p a r t of t h a t f o r c e , u n t i l the communists - s t a r t e d t o take more and more c o n t r o l under Marx. Many workers moved I over t o Marx, l e a v i n g the a n a r c h i s t s . Also, the business's soon made small concessions t o . t h e workers demands, "...conquest o f p o l i t i c a l r i g h t s by workers who then became more r e c e p t i v e r t o p a r l i a m e n t a r y reformism.

. . . t h e s a t i s f a c t i o n o f s h o r t - t e r m de demands." (Anarchism, D a n i e l Guerin) Much d i v i s i o n among t h e a n a r c h i s t s d i d n o t h e l p t h e i r o r g a n i s a t i o n , and t h e y c o u l d o n l y watch as t h e i r revol u t i o n t o a f r e e s o c i e t y s l i p p e d away w i t h t h e support o f the workers. Disenchanted, f r u s t r a t e d a t t h e i r i n a b i l i t y t o achieve t h a t s o c i e t y , many a n a r c h i s t s turned t o 'Propoganda by the Deed', a wave o f ' t e r r o r ism' t h a t spread across n a t i o n a f t e r n a t i o n , bombing a f t e r bombing. I t was meant t o shock people, t o grab them by t h e neck and say 'Look, t h e r e i s something v e r y wrong w i t h g o v ' t . ' . E v e n t u a l l y , 'Propoganda by t h e Deed' became unpopular among most a n a r c h i s t s . I t d i d shock peop l e , but i t f a i l e d t o open peoples eyes as i t only seemed g o v ' t , was even more necessary than b e f o r e ! Not only t h a t , but i t , g a v e a v e r y wrong i m p r e s s i o n o f anarchy, t h a t of v i o l e n c e . Anarchy does not mean v i o l e n c e . Q u i t e the o p p o s i t e , and i t i s g o v ' t , t h a t uses v i o l e n c e , " . . . a l l gov't.s , a l l law and a u t h o r i t y f i n a l l y r e s t on f o r c e and v i o l e n c e , on punishment or f e a r o f punishment", (ABC o f Anarchism, Berkman). . Any d e f i n i t i o n o f anarchy can and must be l i m i t e d t o 'absence o f government and a u t h o r i t y * , t o g i v e any f u r t h e r d e f i n i t i o n s and r u l e s o f anarchy d e f e a t s the meaning. Howe v e r , i n regards t o v i o l e n c e and a ' c h a o t i c s o c i e t y , a n a r c h i s t s must wish t o pursue a s o c i e t y of harmony... peace and c o - o p e r a t i o n . Any k i n d o f v i o l e n t s o c i e t y i s not an a n a r c h i s t i c s o c i e t y . For v i o l e n c e , i n any form (rape, murder r o b b e r y , S t a t e oppression) i s a means t o i n f l i c t a form o f a u t h o r i t y over another... t h e v e r y t h i n g anarchy i s opposed t o . (Note; v i o l e n c e as s e l f - d e f e n c e i s e i t h e r agreed to,condoned, or r e f u s e d depend i n g on circumstances and each anarchists b e l i e f ) . As f o r chaos, i f i n d i v i d u a l f r e e - , dom and n o t 'governed, organised freedom' is. chaos, then so be i t . Remember i n t h e a r t i c l e on anarchy ( t h i s i s s u e ) I s a i d anarchy i s n o t opposed t o o r g a n i s a t i o n , only the ? a u t h o r i t a r i a n s who wish t o c o n t r o l many organisations'. Anarchy i s n o t a b e l i e f where one supposed 'genious' decides and d e f i n e s what anarchy s h a l l or s h a l l not be. Ideas and t h e o r i e s may be shared, but these are n o t t o be b l u e - p r i n t s f o r an a n a r c h i s t s o c i e t y . â&#x20AC;˘' Many people w i l l look a t anarchy & say i t i s not p o s s i b l e , or l o o k at one persons i d e a o f anarchy and say i t i s n o t p o s s i b l e , they w i l l l o o k no f u r t h e r than t h a t , and w i l l c o n t i n u e t o d i s r e g a r d any thoughts on anarchy. People who do t h i s dis-' p l a y t h e g r e a t e s t example o f i g n o r -

ance, f o r t h e y have missed the whole p o i n t of anarchy, t h a t of i n d i v i d u a l t h o u g h t ! Where one p e r s ons v e r s i o n of anarchy may r e s t on a workers r e v o l t and c r u s h i n g o f the g o v ' t . , another persons v e r s i o n may be e d u c a t i n g people on anarchy t h r o u g h l i t e r a t u r e a n d _ r a l l i e s , s t r u g g l i n g f o r an a n a r c h i s t society through a 'psychological' r e v o l u t i o n , another w i l l say an- _ .. archy must be based on communal l i f e i n a v i l l a g e s i t u a t i o n , independant of o t h e r comrr.unes, s t i l l another w i l l say i t can be a way o f l i f e w i t h i n t h e s o c i e t y we now l i v e i n , and t h a t any k i n d o f a n a r c h i s t r e v o l u t i o n begins from w i t h i n and spreads t h r o u g h communication... "Beauty i s i n the eye of the beh o l d e r " , and I would i n c l u d e anarchy i n t h a t category.

"Capable o f e x i s t i n g as a mental concept o n l y ; Utopian; imaginary", t h i s i s t h e d e f i n i t i o n of the word i d e a l . I s anarchy an i d e a l ? We w i l l know t h e answer t o t h i s when humins can foresee t h e f u t u r e . Anarchy can be a r e a l i t y today,a way of l i f e now, or i t can be a s o c i e t y to s t r u g g l e f o r i n the future. Consider Leanardo da V i n c i , he had p l a n s f o r a f l y i n g c r a f t much l i k e a helicopter. "Absurd" h i s f e l l o w s would say. And y e t today f l y i n g c r a f t s are common. Was t h i s an i d e a l ? I t was n o t p o s s i b l e i n h i s l i f e , y e t i t i s r e a l i t y today. Perhaps people were n o t ready f o r such an i n v e n t i o n i n those days, and i t can be s a i d t o be much the same f o r anarchy today. The f u t u r e can not be s a i d t o be t h i s or t h a t , o n l y vaguely d i r e c t e d , f o r i t i s a ship at t h e mercy of t h e winds. Blowing as hard as I can f o r the I s l a n d o f anarchy... Gored. References; 'Anarchy i n A c t i o n ' , by C o l i n Ward. â&#x20AC;˘ABC o f Anarchism', by Alex Berkman. 'Anarchism', by D a n i e l Guerin. the process o f t h i n k i n g , by my b r a i n !

I thought i t would be interesting to reprint t h i s a r t i c l e from Open Road no. 15, s p r i n g * 83. The group i t s e l f s t a r t i n 1977 > and i n my opini o n were the d e f e i n i t i o n o f the Do i t Your s e l f a t t i t u d e . They released a number o f a l bums and w i t h the p r o ceeds were able t o s t a r s t a r t t h e i r own r e c o r d l a b e l . An ep w i t h Poison G i r l s & Crass r a i s e d

money f o r an Anarchist c e n t r e , and Crass playe ed b e n e f i t s f o r many causes. With the Falklands war Crass release ed 'How does i t f e e l t o be the Mother o f a 1,000 dead', a release "that q u i c k l y gained t h e 'group n o t o r i e t y f o r t h e i r veiws on the 'patr i o t i c war' . I t was i n 198^ t h a t Crass played t h e i r f i n , > a l gig, a benefit for s t r i k i n g miners i n S.

Wales. Th ey i n f l u e n c e d many peopl es, and were foremost 0 f the anarchi s t - p a c i f i s t bands. 'There i s no a u t h o r i t y but yourse I f 'Fight war not wars' Crass t h e band has ended, b u tt h e i r though ts & ideas s t i l l r i n g true. OpEH RQ/A> PEof^

flt'Skyaas lirsin "WE WERE FRUSTRATED AT our previous attempts to play London gigs because of all the shit that got printed in the national papers about our last single "How Does It Feel (to be the mother of a thousand dead)." A spokesperson for CRASS, one of the most influential punk rock groups in England, was describing a situation which faces many radical performers in the 80's. CRASS solved their problem using nonviolent direct action. With the help of friends they occupied the deserted Rainbow Theatre last mid-December to put on a free concert. "It seemed important for us," the CRASS spokesperson said, "to do a London gig and we weren't prepared to play the Lyceum or anywhere like that mainly because it's the typical music industry thing with bouncers, high bar prices and everything else." The planning for the concert at the Rainbow was derailed after only two days of occupation when police and private security guards, operating illegally, forcibly entered the theatre and ejected the occupiers. A second attempt at occupying the Rainbow only hours later failed. Fortunately, CRASS and friends had a back-up plan. They occupied the vacant Zig-Zag club on December 18." "The word flashed around the grapevine and by noon several hundred people were in the building, and the festival had begun," reported Freedom. '"The police tried to gain entry but were refused and contented themselves with standing about in pairs outside getting cold."

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Inside the building, in typical CRASS- fashion, the walls were draped with banners proclaiming various anarchist/pacifist slogans and causes. There were no attempts to restrict the movement of people in the club, everybody cleaned up after themselves and over a dozen bands each played 30 minute sets. Bands supporting the occupation with their presence included: Faction, Omega Tribe, Lack of Knowledge, Sleeping Dogs, Apostles, Amebix, Null and Void, Soldiers of Fortune, The Mob, Poison Girls, Conflict, Flux of Pink Indians and Dirt. CRASS, in a written statement in-

cluded with then-recent recording Christ the Album, expresses its hope that people still have the strength to change and that, "We can try to live in harmony with our friends and amongst the people and environment in which we move. We can try to be creative with the facilities that'we and others make. We can learn to reject the stupid roles that we are told to accept: dominant males, submissive females, etc. We can learn to share and cooperate with each other, to give back to life what we have taken from it.. . .We can learn to reject the grey filth and shit that we are told is 'a fact of life'. We can demand and

create something better. " A l l these things, and a lot more, we can learn together with those who care and then, as individuals, we can go out into the streets and demand back the world we ' know exists beneath the layer upon layer of crap that history has piled upon i t . . . .It's up to us, as individuals, together, to subvert the system that perverts our lives." For some time now CRASS has been putting this philosophy into practice on a number of fronts. The recent occupations and free concert are: only the latest actions in a continuum that began with the participation o f some of the present band members in organizing the first free concert at Stonehenge in 1974.

A thousand dead The latest events followed in the wake of calls for charges of "treason" against the band members and the vilification o f CRASS in the British press for the simple message contained in the band's last self-produced and manufactured record. CRASS had the audacity to ask Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher how it felt "to be the mother of a thousand dead" in the senseless Falklands conflict. Surely a treasonous act during the orgy of national self-congratulation on the British "victory." A year earlier CRASS scandalized officialdom, and sent the sensationmongering British press flapping, with the album Penis Envy. It was discovered, to the "horror" of the tabloids, that the heavily anti-sexist, pro-anarchist-feminist record was being subtly advertised in a glossy Brides-to-be magazine as an essential primer for what the future bride should know before tiemg the marital knot. This "attack on the family and holy institution of marriage" embarrassingly lodged high on the U.K. record charts. On another front CRASS lent its support to the successful Persons Unknown campaign, playing benefits and publicizing the phony case against five British anarchists. They released a record which provided background on the frame-up and featured the CRASS song "Bloody Revolutions" backed with "Persons Unknown," a 'powerful song by another group, Poison Girls, who share many of the same views as CRASS. The entire proceeds from the sale of the record were set aside, for the eventual creation of an anarchist centre in London. CRASS took a different tack in 1981. Fearing that the Committee for Nuclear Disarmament (CND), which was having a revival and organizing

CRASS caution for a massive rally in Hyde ~Park would degenerate into a soapbox for politicking Labour Party hacks and left-wing authoritarians, CRASS undertook an independent concert tour of cities raising all the radical issues involved in the nuclear question, not just disarmament.

Redefining limits While an increasing number of rock music performers (The Clash, Gang of Four, Dead Kennedys, D . O . A . , etc.) have expressed a commitment to radical social change in their lyrics and public presentation they have generally worked within the conventions of the music business. CRASS, on the other hand, has also attempted to redefine the limits and methods of presentation and production. CRASS for the most part avoids the commercial concert circuit,preferring to put on smaller gigs, on short notice, advertised through local record stores and gathering places. Handouts and various types of literature explaining the anarchist/pacifist viewpoint or commenting on the issues of the day are generally available at their concerts. They work with other less known bands and have set up a CRASS Records label to release their own material and that of an increasing number of like-minded bands. A number of the bands that performed at the ZigZag concert are on the CRASS label. CRASS has gone one step further to insure that their material is not censored: they operate a record pressing plant to manufacture their own and others'records. When no manufacturer in England would press "Let Them Eat Jellybeans", a radical compilation album of North American underground bands, CRASS arranged for the record to be pressed at its facilities. CRASS uses the entire range of its activities as an example for others. They encourage those attracted to their performances to grapple with the ideas and methods of resistance and renewal directly. This contrasts w i t h the usual m u s i c / c u l t u r e industry's emphasis on high technique and vicarious consumption. The recent tendency by some performers to use "rebellion" and "revolution" as an element in stage shows, music packaging and promotional style domesticates the very notion of radical social change into something 'as disposable as the latest disco fad. The CRASS listener, however, can't effectively "like" the show or recording as mere entertainment without coming to grips with its content of anarchist participation.

Even so, CRASS cautions against taking too loose an advocacy of direct action tactics, saying: "It is impossible and unwise to advocate 'direct action'. ' It is something that should be done and not spoken about. Each of us has our own level of fear and uncertainty and in taking direct action as a form of protest, we must be as certain as possible that we will succeed. It is foolhardy, unless we simply want to end up as martyrs, to attempt anything that we are not ready for. We must learn to overcome our fears gradually, rather than diving headlong into something that we find we can't carry through." For those who find the music of CRASS unique but often abrasive, disjointed, and sometimes dirgelike, they have gone so far as to publish a book, on their Exitstencil Press, dedicated, " T o those who might like the ideas but can't stand the music." A Series of Shock Slogans and Mindless Token Tantrums outlines the group's development . from "hippy" roots to "punk" anarchistpacifists: "We had tried to demonstrate our sense of freedom with humour and love and we were met with violence and hate which we in turn attempted to combat with our reason and intelligence. We failed. We finally realized that the state, those who work within it and those who live beneath its authority, were the 'enemy of our freedom' and that we must look for ways other than well reasoned words with which to oppose them." But the catalyst for action came in 1976: "A year after.. .the Pistols released 'Anarchy in the U . K . ' , maybe they really didn't mean it ma'am, but to us it was a battle cry. When Rotten proclaimed that there was 'no future' we saw it as a challenge to our creativity â&#x20AC;&#x201D; we knew that there was a future i f we were prepared to work for i t . " "It is our world, it is ours and'it has been stolen from us. We set out to demand it back, only this time round they didn't call us 'hippies,' they called .us.'punks'." j The CRASS book is available from: Exitstencil Press, PO Box 279, London N22. Costs about S4. Or as a booklet ncluded in CRASS's double record set: Christ the Album. The How Does it Feel and PersonsUnknown singles, the Penis Envy album as well as records by many of the bands that participated in the occupation are available from CRASS Records, c/o Rough Trade, 202 Kensington Park Roac. London W l l , U.K. or in the U.S. OPtN ROAD Spring 1983

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I met the Accused ( B l a i n e and Tom) s i t t i n g outside a l i t t l e Restaurant, on Seymour s t . d r i n k i n g some brew b e f o r e t h e i r g i g w i t h Verbal Abuse and GBH on Oct. 1 s t a t the Luv-afair. I f you have any f e a r s t h a t perhaps the Accused have abondoned t h e i r punk r o o t s , then I can only say t a l k t o them...some o f the f r e i n d l i e s t f o l k s I've had t h e p l e a s ure o f t a l k i n g t o Gored. W e l l , as I said t h i s t a l k was done on a p r e t t y busy s t r e e t . Secret B u r i a l : Could I .just g e t ( c a r noise on s t . ) . . t h i s i s gonna be n o i s y . . . c o u l d I get your name and instruments? E l a i n e : I'm the s i n g e r . . . Tom : g u i t a r . . . SB: Ok. who else i s i n the band? B: Dana on drums and Alex p l a y s Bass. SB: I wrote you an i n t e r v e i w awhile ago- d i d you see t h a t ? I t ' s Secret Burial... T: Secret B u r i a l - d i d you g e t t h a t ? B: D i d I send i t back t o you? SB: Yeah..I was wondering... 3: Did you send me the fanzine? SB: No...NO-NO...1 sent you the i n t erveiw and i t hasn.t g o t back y e t . . . (They f i g u r e they may have i t i n the t h e i r van ) B: We kinda g e t i n t o limbo l i k e 3 weeks before a t o u r and then we b r i n g a l l the m a i l and t r y t o do i t on t o u r . . . SB: Ok, w e l l I ' l l j u s t ask some more q u e s t i o n s . . . How d i d you .join up w i t h t h e GBH f o r the tour? (

_ Urn...I t h i n k because we're on the same record l a b e l . SB: Who organised i t then? B: Bandwagon- a booking agency. SB: How many gigs have you done so far? Bj 25. SB: Really? Where d i d the t o u r start? B: Washington D.C. SB: .So you j u s t went across the coun try... B: Yeah..-. SB: Do you t h i n k speedmetal? B-T: N O : T: MRR's a bunch 3: Well no, i t ' s are so closed i n world....

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about something and h o p e f u l l y puop l e arc .ronna be able t o b e n e f i t from i t - t a l k about something peopl e can do t h e next day- r i g h t a f t e r they hear t h a t song...,go out and be a d i f f e r e n t person because of i t j l i k e go out and t r y t o get along wi w i t i i the person on the s t r e e t i n s t ead of t e l l i n g them t h e y ' r e fucked because they have a c e r t a i n k i n d o f • haircut. SB: I f your music was a c a r , how f a s t * would i t go? . (Laughter-hahahahahahahahahaha) T: I f the express lanes are open a .150... (Laughter-hahaha) " Bs I t v a r i e s between r u s h hour and audobohn... 'T: So uh, f a s t and slow... I SB: I read i n an i n t e r v e i w you s a i d I people are gonna t h i n k your music, i s I way d i f f e r e n t because y o u ' l l be r e c o r d i n g d i f f e r e n t l y . . . b u t i t seemed t o be d i f f e r e n t not just, r e o o r d i n g wise b u t . . . (and then I was cut o f f by ) Guy on S t r e e t : Simply Red? B: Uhh... GOS: Simply Red? T: Yeah, he's i n Simply Red ( t a l k i n g about B l a i n e ) . GOS: You ( t o Tom)? T: Yeah... GOS: You guys j u s t w a l k i n g around and shit? fc-T: Yeah. We're j u s t over here from England r i g h t now... GOS: You i n t e r v e i w i n g these guys ( t o me)? SB: Yeah, t r y i n ' t o ! GOS: ...these guys a r e n ' t t a l k i n g t o ya? B^T: Yeah! Yeah, we are...we're p l a y i n g around t h e corner l a t e r ' on t o n ight... GOS: We're from M o n t r e a l , saw your gig i n Montreal... B: A l r i g h t , 'Dig i f ! . . (Guy on s t r e e t leaves) (Laughter-hahahahahahaha)

IBs That i s l i k e the b i g g e s t i n s i d e 'joke, people always say I look l i k e - . the guy from Simply Red... Ts Now i t ' s on t a p e . . . t h a t ' s l i k e t h e most c l a s s i c ! Bs Now, what was t h e question? SBs Uhhhh. . .oh shit'. • ' \ Ts Oh! About our music sounds d i f f e r e n t now... um, sure, a l i t t l e b i t , some of the songs... they were w r i t t e n a f t e r I heard bands l i k e UK S a c r i l i g e . But most o f t h e songs were w r i t t e n same time as t h e Martha S p l a t t e r h e a d songs were w r i t t e n . Bs We j u s t took more time w r i t i n g songs... Ts Yeah..'. Bs We j u s t weren't s a t i s f i e d w i t h "he's g o t 2 r i f f s and we're gonna p l a y them"... SBs Do you (Tom) w r i t e most of the music? Ts Yeah, but then l i k e Blaine sais we a l l c o n t r i b u t e . . . I ' 1 1 p l a y somet h i n g and B l a i n e , he doesn't play a whole % o t of g u i t a r , but he p l a y s enough t o know what i t sounds l i k e , and h e ' l l say " w e l l , I want something t h a t sounds l i k e jaggajagga-jagga", so I ' l l g e t on my g u i t a r and go jagga-jagga-jagga, and h e ' l l go yeah,or no...and Alex now, our new member...

SBs Do any o f you work o r i s the band i t ?

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A r t i c l e Hopefully t h i s a r t i c l e w i l l explain the s i t u a t i o n i n E l Salvador, how i t developed, what the s i t u a t i o n i s t o day, and why i t has come to armed s t r uggle t o f i n d a s o l u t i o n the problems. I've w r i t t e n i t i n a basic, easy t o understand s t y l e ( I hope). I t i s i n no way a complete r e p o r t on E l Salvador, and I urge readers t o 'dig up' information themselves. For more i n f o w r i t e me care of Endless Struggle zine^ #1-11^5 L i l y s t . , Vancouver BC, E l Salvador i s a small country (the size of Mass.), yet has approx. 5 m i l l i o n people. I t i s a land where 2% of the population controls nearly 70% of the land. T&ie problems of t o day can be traced back t o c o l o n i a l , times. A small but powerful e l i t e composed of f a m i l i e s c o n t r o l l e d much of the land with the coffee market, and by monopolizing the land. Having such economic power, these r i c h landowners also had much c o n t r o l of the government. Peasant farmers were exploited f o r cheap labour. I n 1932 a peasant u p r i s i n g attempt ed to change t h i s s i t u a t i o n , but t h i s was crushed by Salvadoran gov't, troops. 30,000 people were k i l l e d , while US naval and Marine forces, j u s t - o f f s h o r e , neglected t o i n t e r f e r e , as i t was obvious the gov't, had the s i t u a t i o n under control'. I n 19^4 a coup was attempted by m i l i t ary o f f i c e r s , but t h i s too f a i l e d . Over the next few decades, w i t h great population growth and the inabi l i t y of c i t i e s and industry t o absorb them, poverty, hunger, and i l l i t e r a c y increased. Non-violent demands were o f t e n met w i t h b r u t a l countermeasures, as i n student demo.s i n the 60s. With increasing c i v i l unrest, the U.S. began organising and t r a i n i n g a ' r u r a l , p a r a - m i l i t a r y f o r c e * , ORDEN, as w e l l as the e l i t e p r e s i d e n t i a l i n t e l l i g e n c e service, ANSENSAL, which would l a t e r become the i n t e l l i g e n c e section f o r the Death Squads. The founder of these 2 groups was a Genera l Madrono, who was also e n l i s t e d as, a CIA agent((Allan Nairns 'Behind the.Death squads"). The Death squads were an extens i o n of US plans t o deal w i t h the increasing organising of 'subversive' elements i n El Salvador. "Gen. William Yarborough of Kennedys Special Forces urged t h a t secr e t para m i l i t a r y groups capable of c a r r y i n g out v i o l e n t covert actions against the domestic opposition would .be an e f f e c t i v e mechanism t o counter 'subversion'" ( Noam Chomskys 'Turning the Tide')'. A US Army handbook suggested s e c u r i t y forces impersonate g u e r r i l l a s and carry out t e r r o r i s t actions agains t the population, thus showing the

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people t h e i r need f o r gov't, army US. p r o t e c t i o n i n El Salvador. I n A l l a n Nairns r e p o r t , l i n k s between the Salvadoran Death squads and the \ US went as f a r as t r a i n i n g ( i n c l u d i n g t o r t u r e techniques), organising, and co-ordination. The CIA p r o v i d ed information on dissidents abroad who were k i l l e d by the Death squads. The 1970s saw the people organising i n trade unions, teachers & s t udents , and the r i s e of "popular movements*, f o r a change i n the b r u t a l , u n f a i r gov't, system. A major i n s p i r a t i o n f o r t h i s came from the c a t h o l i c church, and from Archbishop Oscar Romero. With increasing gov't, violence towards these movements, e l e c t o r a l frauds, and increasing Death squad k i l l i n g s , the people began large demonstrations, s t r i k e s , and occupations o f public b u i l d i n g s . These . too were met w i t h force. With the overthrow of Somoza i n Nicaragua, US concern escalated t o the p o s s i b i l i t y of i t s c o n - t r o l i n E l Salvador also being thwarted. I n 1979, the Carter Administration backed a coup! led by r e f o r m i s t m i l i t a r y o f f i c e r s . The coup changed l i t t l e except t h a t i t ensured r e a c t ionary m i l i t a r y o f f i c i a l s maintained c o n t r o l of the gov't. Death squad . a c t i v i t y increased, and v i r t u a l l y a l l opposition among gov't, leaders was silenced, e i t h e r by k i l l i n g s or death t h r e a t s . By Dec. I98O, Jose Napoleon Duarte hstd become- president. This was only to have the gov't, appear as though i t was led by a c i v i l i a n leader, and Duarte was no more, than the puppet of the US Administration. I n March of 1980, Archbishop Oscar Romero, a leading voice of opposition against the death squad k i l l i n g s , was assas-

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mated. A J u d i c i a l i n v e s t i g a t i o n i n t o h i s death by Judge A t i l i o Rami r e z accused Gen. Medrano o f h i r i n g the assasins. Shortly a f t e r , Ramirez was forced t o f l e e the country f o l l o w i n g death t h r e a t s . The year 1980 saw approx. 10,000 people k i l l e d , many a f t e r hideous tort u r e . Any voices o f opposition against the gov't, were silenced by k i l l ings, death t h r e a t s , or bombings, t h i s included Salvadoran media, ;hurch radio, Union leaders. One o f the worst massacres under the Carter Administration occured t h i s year. This was at Rio Sumpul, on May l ^ t h . L.OOOs of peasants f l e d to Honduras t o escape Army operations i n t h e i r area. As they crossed the r i v e r , h e l i c o p t e r s , s o l d i e r s , & 0RDEN troops opened f i r e on them. Amnesty I n t e r n a t i o n a l reports (by eyewitnesses) included gov't, troops t o r •uring women, nursing babies thrown .nto the a i r f o r t a r g e t p r a c t i s e , c h i l d r e n drowned, decapitated, or s l ished t o death w i t h machettes, and oieces of t h e i r bodies were fed t o logs. Honduran s o l d i e r s drove survi v o r s back i n t o the Salvadoran forces. Over 600 unburied corpses and many ;„eft i n the r i v e r were l e f t as e v i d ence of the massacre. (note; i n 1985 Duarte attempted t o j u s t i f y .this massacre, he stated only 300 people died, a l l o f them 'communist g u e r r i l l a s ' , vhich would include the c h i l d r e n and babies butchered, I suppose). I t w a s over a year before press i n Amaerica ;ould r e p o r t t h i s , and a US gov't, rep o r t on human r i g h t s i n E l Salvador of t h a t year, neglected t o "mention ' . Rio Sumpul. ... ENTER THE FMLN AND FDR The FDR ' (Democratic Revolutionary Front) was formed i n I98O. A f t e r the '79 coup, many of the c i v i l i a n members of government became f r u s t r a t e d at t h e i r i n a b i l i t y to stop the k i l l ings , and they resigned. The FDR are composed of former members of the government. B a s i c a l l y , they are the p o l i t i c a l arm of the 'struggle, and the FDR i s committed t o a p o l i t i c a l r e s o l u t i o n , but they recognise and support the armed s t r u g g l e . The FMLN (Farabundo M a r t i Front f o r N a t i o n a l L i b e r a t i o n ) was named a f t e r Farabundo M a r t i ; a peasant leader i n the '32 u p r i s i n g , who was assasinated by the gov't, t h a t same year. The FMLN -formed i n I98O and i s composed of 5 d i f f e r e n t r e v o l u t i o n a r y armies who had been s t r u g g l i n g since around 1972. With t h e i r u n i f i c a t i o n i n t o one f o r c e , and many more people j o i n ing the f i g h t , the FMLN became* a Strong, d i r e c t m i l i t a r y force against the gov't. I n response t o the threat from the FMLN/FDR, US involvement had increased t o 1.5 m i l l i o n tax d o l l a r s a day. In 1981 the FMLN stepped up i t s armed s t r u g g l e and took c o n t r o l o f such o f the countryside, using old b o l t - a c t i o n - r i f l e s , ' p i s t o l s , and any weapons taken from gov't, forces. The Salvadoran forces maintained most j n t r o l i n the urban centres, but nprox. J0% of the countryside was 3W i n FMLN zones o f c o n t r o l .

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Two former US ambassadors t o E l Salvador, Robert White and Muriel W i l l iams, estimated about 80% o f the Salvadoran population supported the forces o f the FMLN/FDR. DEMOCRATIC 'ELECTIONS' ? In,1982, e l e c t i o n s were held i n E l Salvador. The Peagan A d m i n i s t r a t i o n used t h i s t o show t o Congress and the , arr-srican p u b l i c t h a t E l Salvador was ' a democratic country, t h a t the revo l u t i o n a r y forces were not popular, and t h a t the Salvadoran gov't, was attempting t o f i n d n o n - m i l i t a r y s o l u t i o n s t o the c o n f l i c t . One must r e member t h a t the p o l i t i c a l opposition had been d r i v e n underground, and the" country was i n the midst of a. c i v i l war. Not having an e l e c t i o n stamp on' compulsory LD papers meant r i s k i n g imprisonment, t o r t u r e , or death. 'Voting' was p l a c i n g t r a n s l u c e n t b a l l o t s i n t o transparent b a l l o t boxes i n f u l l p u b l i c v'eiw. 'Voters'* then signed t h e i r names on a r e g i s t r y on a l i s t t h a t matches r e g i s t r a t i o n numbers w i t h b a l l o t numbers. Not much of a 'free' e l e c t i o n . I n 1984-, another e l e c t i o n I was h e l d under s i m i l a r c o n d i t i o n s .

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As of the end of 1986, the US was now p u t t i n g i n approx. 2 m i l l i o n d o l l a r s a day, US m i l i t a r y adv i s o r s , war equipment, a l l supplied by american f o r i e g n p o l i c y . Since I98O, almost 62,000 c i v i l ians have died as a r e s u l t of t h i s p o l i c y . More than 3i000 tons of bombs have been dropped, many being napalm or white phosphorous incendi a r y bombs. Bombs do not d i f f e r between c i v i l i a n s or combatants, and n e i t h e r do b u l l e t s . According t o I986 reports by Human r i g h t s commi s s i o n s , gov't, forces c a r r i e d out 188 bombings, machine-gunnings, & a r t i l l e r y attacks against v i l l a g e s w i t h non-combatant c i v i l i a n s . Over 300 c i v i l i a n s died i n these attacks.

it(Note; the forced r e l o c a t i o n s were gov't, attempts t o r e l o c a t e people i n order t o take away support from the FMLN/FDR , whom they know the ; people do support. As f o r the l a s t demand, a l l the proposals f o r peace put f o r t h by the FMLN/FDR have been refused by the gov't. I beleive the other 3 points have been pointed out already).

FMLN ZONES OF CONTROL The m a j o r i t y of these bombings took place i n FMLN zones of control. These are areas the FMLN forces have taken c o n t r o l of, and where they organise, t r a i n , and p r o t e c t the c i v i l i a n population w i t h i n the zones. Education, medical aid,, food, and most i m p o r t a n t l y a r i g h t t o l i f e are provided f o r these peop l e . Even w i t h the intense bombings i n the zones (which the gov't, considers 'red zones' and about which Colonel Ochoa said " I can massively bomb the red zones because only subversives l i v e i n them" ), the people choose t o remain i n them. The FMLN/FDR has constantly put f o r t h proposals f o r peace. 6 such proposals i n July '86, these arej . , -j, : . The FMLN has consistently put forward proposals that would lead to a negotiated solution to the conflict. Six proposals were put forward by the FMLN/FDR in July 1986 as a basis toward establishing a dialogue for peace:

—That a democratic solution to the conflict be found among Salvadorans which respects the country's national sovereignty. —That the government be reorganized and committed to the pluralistic participation of all sectors of Salvadoran society willing to work towards a political solution to the conflict. —That this transitional government be committed to holding tree and fair elections after a cease fire, and the problem of the existence of two armies be negotiated within the framework of this government. —That a political solution be based on social and economic justice, in which a mixed economy will be the basis for reconstruction. The political solution must include the dismantling of repressive structures in the government, and respect for all democratic freedoms, both individual and collective. —The rights of displaced and refugee populations to return to their olace of origin must be guaranteed. ' —The government would carry out a non-aligned foreign policy, developing relations with all states, including the US, based on a mutual ospect for sovereignty and independence. The .government would encourage political solutions to the conflicts throughout Central America. r

There are 5 basic demands the popu l a r opposition has; -stop the bombings -stop forced r e l o c a t i o n s , # -stop the repression, -end US i n t e r v e n t i o n , -support peace through dialogue & negotiation.

WHY CONTINUED US SUPPORT? I n order t o understand why the cont i n u e d US support f o r such a blatant-l y b r u t a l d i c t a t o r s h i p , one must understand the h i s t o r y o f US i n t e r v e n t i o n i n Central America. Since the t u r n of the century, the US has v i r t u a l l y had c o n t r o l o f a l l the Cent r a l american countries; Honduras, Guatemala, Costa Rica, E l Salvador, and u n t i l '79, Nicaragua. The reasons f o r US i n t e r v e n t i o n can be seen i n these s t a t i s t i c s ; i n Honduras, beef production has more than doubl e d since i960, while per capita consumption has decreased & exports increased over 500% f o r hamburgers, hot dogs, & pet foods i n the US. Forests are destroyed i n order t o make room f o r c a t t l e grazing. The m a j o r i t y of loans from the US goes t o beef production ( i n one t y p i c a l region, 68% of loans went t o c a t t l e ranchers, 22% t o cotton growers, 5% t o corn srrowers) ( The central american. countries are also mam exp o r t e r s of other products such as coffee, cotton, f r u i t , & palm o i l . (above s t a t i s t i c s from 'Why Farmers Go Hungry', Oxfam p u b l i c a t i o n . ) . So why then, i f these countries can a f f o r d t o export such vast q u a n t i t i e s of t h e i r food goods, i s there so much widespread poverty, hung:er , & widespread m a l n u t r i t i o n ? The f a c t i s t h a t the powerful land-owners, as w e l l as the gov't.s, w i l l make much more of a p r o f i t s e l l i n g these goods as exports r a t h e r than s e l l i n g them domestically, t o feed the hungry i n t h e i r own countries. Furthermore, the US i s the worlds l a r g e s t food imp o r t e r , p r i m a r i l y from the T h i r d worl d countries. The reason f o r US i n t e r v e n t i o n i n t o the Central americas lays not i n stopping some 'communist' t h r e a t , but r a ther i n preserving i t s precious econmic p r o f i t s . E l Salvador cannot be allowed -to s l i p away as Nicaragua d i d , i t must be kept, no matter what the cost i n human l i v e s , war machinery, or b u l l e t s , f o r the eventual p r o f i t s t o be reaped w i l l more than pay f o r t h i s . And when the r e v o l u t ionary forces f i n a l l y do triumph, ( f o r they surely w i l l , the Duarte regime would have been toppled long ago i f not f o r US support), the US Admin-' i s t r a t i o n w i l l s i t back and p o i n t out the i n a b i l i t y of the new gov't, t o solve many of i t s problems, such huge problems t h a t w i l l take more than a r e l a t i v e l y simple d e s t r u c t i o n o f a repressive gov't, t o solve. The s i t u a t i o n i n Nicaragua w i l l no doubt be repeated i n E l Salvador a f t e r the down-fall of the US backed gov't.

RECENT DEVELOPMENTS On Aug. 7 i n Guatemela c i t y , the Aria? -plan was signed. This i s a p l a n designed t o b r i n g peace t o the C e n t r a l American r e g i o n , but i t ' s hard t o see f o r whos b e n e f i t . The major p r o v i s i ons i n the p l a n are; — a l l c o u n t r i e s end t h e i r s t a t e o f emergency ( c e a s e f i r e ) , o f f e r amnesty t o i n s u r g e n t s , & begin dialogue w i t h opp o s i t i o n groups. - a l l c o u n t r i e s must h o l d f r e e e l e c t ions a t the end o f t h e i r p r e s i d e n t s term. - a l l c o u n t r i e s end a i d t o i n s u r g e n t groups Sc exclude them from t h e i r t e r r i t o r y ( i e US backed contras i n Nicaragua using Honduras as bases), - a l l measure i n e f f e c t by Nov. 7 t h . .. Mr. A r i a s , the man c r e d i t e d w i t h much o f t h i s p l a n -(he won the Nobel peace p r i z e I ) c a n n o t take f u l l c r e d i t f o r t h i s p l a n . I n f a c t , much o f the Arias p l a n i n c o r p o r a t e s another peace proposal- the Contadora p l a n . When f i r s t i n t r o d u c e d i n '83 by. Mex i c o , Panama, Columbia, & Venezuela, t h i s p l a n was not accepted. It'was against US i n t e r v e n t i o n . I n the f i r s t stages o f f o r m i n g the A r i a s p l a n , P r esident A r i a s t r a v e l l e d t o the US t o c o n s u l t w i t h Washington. Thisi f i r s t d r a f t was s t r o n g l y a n t i - N i c a r a g u a & pro-american i n t e r v e n t i o n . With more p l a n n i n g , i n c l u d i n g adjustments by the C e n t r a l American p r e s i d e n t s , i t was decided t o i n v i t e Nicaragua t o a t t e n d . What has evolved i s an indepandant step away from US p o l i c i e s , & a v i r t ual blockade a g a i n s t US i n t e r v e n t i o n . This p l a n i s now b a s i c a l l y r e j e c t e d by the US, & the US has now threatened t o stop much o f i t s funding t o the countr i e s i n v o l v e d . That Nov. 7 d e a d l i n e has so f a r been met 100% only by Costa Rica, who i s not i n v o l v e d i n a c o n f l i c t . Nicaragua has g i v e n amnesty t o many p o l i t i c a l p r i s o n e r s . E l Salvador has gr anted amnesty t o members o f the Death Squads'.- Even though no t r i a l s or charges have ever been brought up against members'. Numbers o f p o l i t i c a l p r i s o n e r s have been r e l e a s e d , many reported t o be misdemeaner o f f e n d e r s however, & v a r i o u s persons have now been allowed t o r e - e n t e r the c o u n t r y . I n l a t e Oct. the p r e s i d e n t o f the Human Rights commission i n ES was assasi n a t e d by Death squads. This i n i t i a t e ed the w i t h d r a w l o f the FMLN from t a l k s w i t h the g o v ' t . During the ceasef i r e , gov't f o r c e s also moved i n t o of+ * f e n s i v e p o s i t i o n s . The FMLN has o f f ered t o reopen the t a l k s , but thus f a r the gov't has not responded. I don't beleive i t ' s too f a r fetched t o t h i n k t h a t t h i s a s s a s i n a t i o n wfis a US attemp pt t o ' c l o g ' up the peace t a l k s . I t i s hard t o f i g u r e out the a c t u a l i n t e n t i o n s ' o f the A r i a s p l a n - i f p r e sidents o f such b r u t a l regimes are i n agreement w i t h much o f the p l a n . . . what can t h a t mean? The A r i a s p l a n w i l l not b r i n g meaningful peace t o the* r e g i o n , but perhaps i t i s a step tow-, ards i t ? Without US backing, the Duarte g o v ' t , would f a l l i n a matter o f weeks . Even w i t h - i t though, the Duarte gov't w i l l f a l l , i t ' s s i m p l y a matter o f t i m e .

FURTHER READINGS Turning the Tide, by Noam Chomsky, Black Rose books, 198?. EI Salvador; The face of the Revol u t i o n , by Robert Armstrong & Janet Shenk B i t t e r Grounds; Roots of Revolt i n El Salvador, by L i s a North. Torture i n the 80's, Amnesty I n t e r n a t i o n a l p u b l i c a t i o n s , pgs155.-158• Also; check your l o c a l area f o r a group working t o help the e f f o r t s t o peace & s e l f - d e t e r m i n a t i o n i n E.S. El Salvador I n f o r m a t i o n Office? #203-337 W. Pender St., Vancouver, . BC, V6B 1T3, Canada.

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stead how small o r b i g i t i s . . W e l l , t h a t ' s b a s i c a l l y why we s t a r t e ed the band, cause ed tyhe were s i c k o f ted iU the Lilt: band,, cause wciu.w.v^ we " ~ & ourselves whining about t h e scene & people we " C knew mil,,, whining,, so we d e c i d e ed t o do sdmething about i t , so we s t a r t e d a band. (Rob)-And now peopl l e have t o p u t up w i t h us, and whine about us, haha. (Bryan)-And say ' I g o t t a s t a r t up a band man' .hahaha. BS- Any messages you're t r y i n ' t o g e t across? (Bryan)-All sorts of them. ( N i c k ) - J u s t b a s i c a l l y be aware n o t t r y i n g t o t e l l anyone what t o do just think f o r y o u r s e l v e s — ES iHow would you describe your music? ( N i c k ) - A w f u l 1 ES;Awful? (Rob)-No. don't say awful...(Nick)-Stampeding elephants... (Others j o i n i n ) , a h e r d of drunken b u f f a l o . . . a drawer of c u t l e r y being thrown down t h e s t a i r s . .. ES; So vou don't p l a n on one p a r t i c u l a r sound, vou .just come i n and... (Brian)-Whatever happens, whatever sounds good. Whatever Robs been l i s t e n i n g to-haha. ES; What are some bands vou l i k e ? (Brian)-Bands we groove on...AOD, Black Sabbath, A n t i - s e c t , Rudimentary P e n i , Stupand i d s , J e r r y s Kids, Joy D i v i s i o n , . Don Ho, E l v i s , h a h a . many more of vou c o n s i d e r y o u r s e l v e s ES;Do any i ._. _ subversi/e type people(Nick)-Wel] ( N i ch ka )i-rWceultl, Toms the one w i t h the funny (Tom)-Ya, and I'm not p a y i n g back my bank loan e i t h e r ( D i s c u s s i o n goes on about p o l i c e w a r r a n t s ) . (Brian)-None of us go f i r e b o m b i n g o r a n y t h i n g •»l i k e t h a t . . . E S ; P o l i t i c s ? (Rob)-We go t o demonstrations b u t r a t h e r do i t on a personal l e v e l t h a n w i t h orga n i s a t i o n s ... ES; Last words?

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ihatd vou? ( J a c k ) - W e l l , t h e r e are a few ietjfi bands t h a t r e a l l y r e s p e c t what we \ythaj are d o i n g , l i k e Last Option, Youth under C o n t r o l , & ARR. These bands a l s o a c t i v e l y take p a r t i n c r e a t i n g a scene o f i n t e l l i g e n c e & n o n - v i o l ence. Other bands- say we 'preach too much', some go t o the extreme t o c a l l us ' h i p p y - f a g s ' . We've been r e a l discouraged b u t we won't g i v e fast $j up u n t i l t h i n g s are c o n s i d e r a b l y focky d i f f e r e n t . And even then t h e r e i s I they' always room f o r change. ES; Do any sover o f vou c o n s i d e r yourselves ' S t r a i g h t oon it edge' ? ( J a c k ) - I consider myself ught t ' a l t h o I do n o t wear x's, I do i jj£ n o t have s h o r t h a i r , & do not have YQJJ ^ cute s u r f e r c l o t h i n g . Now t e l l me ' i f I'm s t i l l SE because I'm not sure. THE^ The whole 'movement' has become an rf WAi asanine s t e r e o - t y p e o f k i d s who rood! "think t h a t being s t r a i g h t can change 'you ... ' t h e w o r l d . I agree t h a t being s t r a i*&"•»' g h t i•s a b u t t h e r e i s much ^ ilsyfyo(i a ss tt ee pp ,, D Rr.'lj..- more t h a t must be accomplished i n -s the i n d i v i d u a l & t h e w o r l d . I do Kerne n o t d r i n k , smoke, o r do any drugs. I'm happy the way I am but r e a l i z e flow. t h a t being s t r a i g h t won't stop f a s A your cism i n S. A f r i c a e t c . Be proud t o -main be s t r a i g h t & search f o r morel > rep< (I'm n o t SE myself-Gored) ES; Does 'our d the band l i v e t o g e t h e r ? ( J a c k ) to ( Dave & I do but besides t h a t , no. 'oivin We would p r o b a b l y g e t on each o t h e r s nd th. nerves anyways. ES;What are some o f your occupations/hobbies aside from t evp-J the band? ( J a c k ) - W e l l , occupation wise I'm a phone m o n i t o r on a t e e n there l i n e . I make sure people behave & N y i don't t r y t o s e l l drugs on the l i n e t one etc. Andy works a t a r e c o r d s t o r e s-Oon , & E r i k i s a w a i t e r a t ' B i l l y s Ribs*. t h i n f l As f a r as hobbies, I draw, w r i t e j other p o e t r y , read & do a zine c a l l e d Pres, 'Hippycore'(catchy t i t l e eh?) star- ES; What are some o f your veiws o f it this j the N.•American HC scene, do you a l o t o f apathy o r h y p o c r i t i c a l ba"Spain; nds? (Jack)-Too many t o mention. S E

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bands, t h e l i s t i s endl ' ess. The o n l y o t h e r type o f musical i n f l e r i c e i s m e t a l . ES; I n your l y r ics I n o t i c e d many r e f erences t o Animal r i g h t s . Are any members i n v o l v e d i n the f i g h t a g a i n s t these a t r o c i t i e s , i f so; how? Also, does t h e ban d as a whole stand behind these ideas"? Baz; Buz our s i n g e r runs an animal r i g h t s group here i n our home town o f Weston-s-Mare which i n v o l v es meetings, s o c i a l evenings , d i s c u s s i o n s , l e a f l e t t i n g & occasionally d i r e c t a c t i o n . The r e s t of the band also h e l p out w i t h l e a f l e t t i n g & hunt sabbing when t h e season s t a r t s i n a few weeks. We a l l stand beh i n d what we say i n our l y r i c s and our veiws are a l l quite s i m i l i a r . ES; About the Lp, were ?'?u happy w i t h t h e produ c t i o n ? How long d i d i t take? Hows the response been? Baz; The Lp came out w e l l , good & powerf u l , captures our v e r y raw sound l i v e . We were a b i t pushed f o r t i m e , n e x t L p ' l l be a marked improvement i n p r o d u c t ion. The whole Lp, i n c l uding recording, mixing, took 2 .'/2 days, f a i r l y good we t h i n k . We've had a good response from the US & Europe s i n c e the Lp came o u t . ES; How o f t e n do you gig? What's a good gig? T

Baz; Ripcord u s u a l l y g i g once or twice a month, we've played i n most t o wns i n t h e Uk. We're l u c k y as we've a van & can g e t t o gigs e a s i l y . A good g i g f o r us i s one t h a t t h e crowd & band have a good t i m e , no v i o l e n c e , & everyone going home sweaty & happy 1 ES; I n your veiw, how's the UK punk scene l a t e l y 3az; The UK scene i s p i c k i n g up l a t e l y a f t e r a l o n g l a p s e , more venues, clubs e t c . Some good bands coming through now & f r i e n d l y atmospheres a t g i g s even though t h e majo r i t y o f gig-goers are b o r i n g s t i f f s & no-one seems t o dance unless i t i s a biD band p l a y i n g . ES; What are your veiws on v e g e t a r i a n i s m & s t r a ight-edge? Baz; W e l l ,

i f you eat meat you're a non-thinking, non-caring s h i t h e a d . 2 o f t h e band are v e g e t a r i a n s & 2 are vegans. No r e a l l y , i t ' s down t o t h e i n d i v i d u a l i f they choose t o eat meat t h a t ' s f i n e . I've n o t h i n g a g a i n s t meat-eat e r s and we're n o t t r y i n ing t o preach t o anyone. Lead your own l i f e . The same a p p l i e s t o SE, personal choice, b u t a t t h i s moment i n time SE wouldn't s u i t my way o f l i v i n g . ES; Would you t o u r N. Ameri-a, & have you t o u r e d Europe? Baz; We would l i k e t o t o ur N. America b u t t h e pos s i b i l i t i e s are s m a l l as we're a l l unemployed & c o u l d n ' t save that, k i n d of money. Yes, we have t o u r e d Europe, g i g s i n Belgium, H o l l a n d , Germany & S w i t z e r l a n d , w i t h Napalm Deathin. l a t e June e a r l y J u l y . I t was exce l l e n t ' . R e a l l y good g i g s , e x c e l l e n t people, we're hoping t o go back i n t h e n e x t few months i f a l l goes w e l l . ES; , What o t h e r releases has Ripcord had, & what a l l I i s a v a i l a b l e from you? Baz; WS've been on t h e Manic Ears/COR comp. Lp, our 'Defiance o f Power' Lp o f course, a l s o a 9 song f l e x i c a l l e d 'Dam-^ age i s Done' which was recorded l a s t year & i s now t o t a l l y s o l d o u t . -d ' 1 We're busy w r i t i n g s t u f f to u . f o r another Lp & p o s s i b CM u l y a s p l i t Lp on a Germ- N cd • vr\ 33 -p m <u^ an l a b e l . We've a l s o to been asked t o go on some o w » to o o more comp.s, so t h i n g s O E O O M are l o o k i n g up. We've -< < <D got t - s h i r t s a t $8.00 <B ppd f o r anyone who's i n - On » <D 60 C M < D to C O t e r e s t e d , and s t i c k e r s & S-i ri -p (fl ( B tO f l y e r s . ES; Any l a s t NSHO ft ft •P to comments? Baz; Thanx a v -c f o r t h e space. Anyone (CHOD3 w i s h i n g t o c o n t a c t us . f o r any reason please do

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i n a l l / Probably can't get t h i s , b u t watch f o r the s p l i t Lp on Manic ears. • CIVIL]";;ED SOCIETY? . Scrap Metal' Lp Manic Ears r e c o r d s . This has been out f o r awhile b u t i s one o f my f a v o u r i t e s . Outs t a n d i n g v y n i l / from t h i s UK band...not going f o r a speedr e c o r d , t h i s group has a s o r t o f melodic heaviness, w i t h v o c a l s t h a t you can a c t u a l l y understand. Lyric s deal w i t h the -worki n g idea, smoking, and v e r y personal-type thoughts. 12 t r ax, a l l -with superb

l y r i c a l thoughts' and t e d i o u s w i t h the ba: i d e a s . T h e i r new Lp age o f speed. i s out how, and i s suNot bad. • pposedly a change . from t h i s one, w e ' l l ; DEAD KENNEDYS have to'see. Comes 'Give me convienci w i t h l y r i c s and art..* or g i v e me death' DIGGING I N WATER A l t e r n a t i v e Tentacli This i s m a t u r i t y . ! C omp. Lp songs are on t h i s a! Manic Ears r e c o r d s . bum (and f l e x i ) w i t ] 16 bands, m o s t l y European. T h i s i s p r e - •a neat b o o k l e t . Th; i s t h e i r l a s t relea; dominantly thrashing and one o f t h e i r be; HC, a l l by v e r y good A l l the s i n g l e s and bands, i e ; D i s o r d e r , s i d e s are here. P l Chaos UK , Concrete ' I f o u g h t the Law', Sox, Ripcord, Vicious C i r c l e , C i v i l i s e d So- ' P u l l my S t r i n g s ' , ; l i v e song paradying c i e t y ? , S t u p i d s , Oi new wave, 'Short soi P o l l o i , e t c . Good gs' (20 seconds), ai p r o d u c t i o n - i t does ' S t r a i g h t A's' , 2 o: t e n d t o get a l i t t l e

t h e i r e a r l i e s t songs from the 'Music f o r • t h e Deaf Club' comp., The f l e x i i s a fun. ny v e r s i o n o f 'Buzz bomb' and n i g h t o f the l i v i n g rednecks', an i m p r o v i s a t i o n r e c orded i n a P o r t l a n d t a v e r n when Rays g u i t a r broke. E s s e n t i a l . Rene GENERIC/ELECTRO HIPP I PIES, s p l i t Lp. Flat Earth records. Generic are y e t anot h e r p o t e n t i a l UK power house, w i t h t h e i r music and l y r i c s . I t starts o f f with the t h r a s h y 'Go f o r i f , f o l k y 'No more f e a r . of f e e l i n g ' , p o p - t h r ash 'You and me', ' R e t r i b u t i o n ' , an i n tense spoken p a r t and o t h e r 'punky' s t u f f which i s q u i t e good. They s p l i t up f o r aw h i l e then got back together with 2 less members. E l e c t r o - H i p p i e s are very noisy thrash, w i t h slower i n t r o s an and e f f e c t s , a funny theme song, and 'Terr o r eyes' being t h e best ( ? ) . Again, good l y r i c s . Oh, and o n l y 1,000 copies p r essed and I t h i n k t h e t h e y ' r e s o l d out I So "ape i t ' . Rene FLIPPER 'Genairic Album' Subterranean r e c . A t o t a l classic. I know i t ' s 6 years o l d but I j u s t bought i t . f o r those u n i n i t i a t e d i t w i l l be a p a i n f u l 'experience'. f?ene THE CURE •Kiss me' ( X 3 ) . E l e k t r a records. OK, I know they have a t r e n d y image b u t the f a c t i s they are one h e l l o f a band and they r e a l l y show i t on t h i s double a l bum, t h e i r best by far. I t i s not t o p ^0, j u s t e x c e l l e n t music and l y r i c s (18 so t r a x ) . Yes i t ' s melovt but w i t h an edge. Rene 1

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PERJURY "Hang the Judge and Jury' Demo. A very i n t e l l i g e n t an and concerned band from England. The recording i s a b i t low, but .there's a r e a l 'Amebix' f e e l t o t h i s band. Heavy and not t o t a l .speed. 9 t r a x i n a l l . The l y r i c s are w e l l thought out and meaningful about freedom, commu n i c a t i o n , opening doors, very i n t e r e s t ing and educatoonal. Comes w i t h a l i t t l e b o o k l e t . I'm not sure o f the p r i c e a s . t h i s was sent t o me. Not too bad a t a l l ' . * US DISTRESS Demo. A way c o o l set o f t u n tunes t h a t reminds me of v i c i o u s C i r c l e . A g r e a t hard-core s t y l e t h a t zooms along a t j u s t the r i g h t pace. R e a l l y catchy tunes. There was no l y r i c s , but 'Change f o r t h e Better' i s a great t r ack, as i s 'Nowwhere' Fast' and 'Who possesses You'. 8 songs See the s h o r t l i t t l e interveiw t h i s issue.* DOG f l e x i ( w i t h WW111 . ' • i l l u s t r a t e d , no.?) 3 songs on t h i s f l e x i , p r e t t y catchy tunes t o i l . I t ' s n o t t h r a s h or n o t h i n g , but i t i s e n j o y a b l e ^ rock w i t h a s l i g h t edge. L y r i c s are i n side the magazine and are s o c i a l - t y p e l y r ics. I t ' s good_. • AMEBIX 'Monolith' Lp Heavy Metal r e c , This i s onE heavy . slab, w i t h grinding g u i t a r and a l o t o f power i n i t . I t s t i l l r e t a i n s t h a t Ame b i x sound, & the l y r ics sound t o be w e l l thought out & i n t e l l i g e n t . Great cover art*. No l y r i c s , s h i t t y l a b e l , but a g r e a t record'. • SUBVERSE/DESECRATION s p l i t Lp, Manic Ears, F u l l on t h r a s h l p f o r everyone w i t h manic •: ears'. Great he t h r a -

sh from b o t h bands & good, s o c i o - p o l i t i c a l l y r i c s t o boot. Defi n a t e l y one o f the b e t t e r releases t h i s year. • PROGRESS?'. comp. ep, S t i l l Thinking zine, Yeah, g r e a t ep w i t h MSI, Nunfuckers.Sons of Ishmael, Death o f Gods, & G u i l t Parade. B e n e f i t f o r 'Tools f o r Peace', i n N i c a r agua. Fold out l y r i c sheet, l o t s o f i n f o . See the ad t h i s issue.* 1

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ATAVISTIC 'Equilibrium'ep, Loony Tunes r e c . More damage by Englands A t a v i s t i c . k l o u d , f a s t & heavy t r a c k s . L i t t l e melody, l o t s o f chainsaw g u i t ar & r a p i d drumming. L y r i c a l l y ; very i n t e l l i g e n t thoughts & ideas. Well worth r e a d i n g & hearing'. Comes w i t h l i t t l e 8 pg b o o k l e t . E x c e l l e n t , keep i t up*.

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BLACK FLAG, NO. 172 _ A n a r c h i s t newspaper, p r i n t ted on good paper. Much i n f o . , news e t c . W r i t e t o t h e address or go t o S p a r t acus books. RESISTANCE NO. 11 Covers D i r e c t A c t i o n s , m i l i t a n t s t r u g g l e , worldwide. Reports from v a r i o u s m i l i t ant groups, news e t c . , some p r e t t y heavy s h i t l i k e Red Army Factions execution of W. Germanys Foreign M i n i s t er... t h i s i s much l i k e the ALF newspaper. Write or p i c k up a t Spartacus books. VIRUS, NO. 10 ' M i l i t a n t Anarchism', f r England. News, o p i n i o n s , debates, P r i n t e d , 16 pgs, 8x11, w r i t e address or go to Spartacus. FIFTH ESTATE, B i g A n a r c h i s t newspaper, news on the A n a r c h i s t g a t h e r i n g i n Minneapolis, June. Plus l o t s of o t h e r a r t i c l e s , opinions, l e t t . ers. 28 pages-newspaper s i z e . Very good. See Address or go t o Spartacus... FREEDOM VOL. 48, NO.8* A good a n a r c h i s t z i n e , been around f o r q u i t e awhile. This issue has Radio p i r a t e s , squat i n amsterdamm, o p i n i o n s , l e t t e r s , book revus, 16 pgs, 8x11, p r i n t e d . See address or go t o ST. artacus/Octopus books. THE

FACTION FILE From 86, t h i s i s a c o l l e c t i o n o f cartoon s t r i p s t h a t appeared i n Black F l ag, from 8 4 - 8 5 . The a u t h or i s now i n p r i s o n . H i l a r i o u s l y funny., w r i t e Hool i g a n Fress_. +._ „ OPEN ROAD, NO. 21 The most recent i s s u e . A r t i c l e s on squats i n NY,and Holland...Nicaraguan a r t i c l e , NATO, p l u s much more, 16 pgs newspaper format. AnarchistZantia u t h o r i t y . Send $ 2 . 0 0 . _ f

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EVER VIGILANT ' .NO. 2 Informative & i n t e r e s t i n g l i t t l e UK z i n e . No bands, but i n t e r v eiws w i t h Greenpeace London, Cruisewatch (a group organised aga i n s t the c r u i s e missi l e s i n UK), and Random Press. Lots o f l i t t l e a r t i c l e s , zine r e vus t o o , Great'. SEARCHLIGHT, NO. 148 The a n t i - f a s c i s t monthl y . Details a c t i v i t i e s o f the N a t i o n a l Front & other n a z i scum. Reports on r a c i s t v i o lence, p o l i c e violence. Sickening, i r r i t a t i n g , the f a c t s I A v a i l , a t Spartacus. Monthly.

ANARCHY COMIX, NO. 3 From '81, a very funny c o l l e c t i o n o f comic s t r i p s d e a l i n g w i t h anarchy. E n t e r t a i n g and educationa l , i n a wayOut of p r i n t I b e l e i v e , but check a t A n a r c h i s t or ' L e f t i s t * bookshops. <tis-

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TORTURE I N THE '80s by Amnesty I n t e r n a t i onal. Amnesty I n t e r n a t i o n a l i s one o f the b e t t e r organisations operating tV'bo-f-es ihli' on a world l e v e l , t h e i r ANARCHISM aims are t o f r e e p o l i t i c by Daniel Guerin, w i t h a l p r i s o n e r s / p r i s o n e r s of i n t r o . by Noam Chomsky. conscience, and t o end An i n f o r m a t i v e book on a l l forms o f t o r t u r e imanarchism, composed mosposed by many Governments t l y o f d i r e c t quotes from T h i s r e p o r t l i s t s , count many o f the ' l e a d i n g ' anr y by c o u n t r y , such t o r a r c h i s t t h i n k e r s , coverures as e l e c t r i c shocks, i n g many t o p i c s , h i s t o r y , b e a t i n g s , mock executand i n ' r e v o l u t i o n a r y p r i o n s , f l o g g i n g s , amputa c t i s e , as i n Spain and a t i o n s , and provides i t s the Russian r e v o l u t i o n . p r o o f . Look i n bookstoAt times I found i t a res or contact a l o c a l b i t d i f f i c u l t t o read, ^ • Amnesty I n t e r n a t i o n a l gre s p e c i a l l y some o f the oup . quotes.from the 1800 anAmnesty I n t e r n a t i o n a l . a r c h i s t t h i n k e r s , but s t P r i n t e d 1984. i l l , very informative.. Monthly Reveiw Press, New York and London. P r i n t e d 1970. I n Vancouver P u b l i c L i b r a r y ; 335-8/G93a ANARCHY IN ACTION by C o l i n Ward. An e x c e l l e n t book w i t h v e r y p r a c t i c a l views on Anarchy. I t h i n k the s u ccess of t h i s book i s t h a t h a t Ward can o f t e n r e f e r back t o h i s t o r y f o r examp l e s and thoughts. He i s not bogging the reader w i t h large theories, but i n s t e a d -writes i n - a s t r a i g h t f o r w a r d ' manner easy t o read and understand. Excellent: A very good read'. Harper and Row, Publishers • P r i n t e d 1973I l n VFL;335.8/W25a. C o l i n Ward was a l s o e d i t or o f weekly 'Freedom' f r . '47 t o ' 60, and e d i t e d monthly ' Anarchy' ,' 6 1 - ' 70.

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The point is some'of Kelv's stuff is bettethan say Bernard's. Not as heavy, out heav^ enough. The ideal category is between thrash and BON JOVI. I can oo wfthoul hardcore or punk. I'd rather read about YST, HELiX, DOKKEN etc than hardcore stuff At least they're better musicians. Just don't too far off the familiar metal trail. The crusade for REAL METAL has begun. It's fair to day that the advent of Hardcore has brought a dangerously unruly element tc heavy metal and it threatens the music form:; very existence. As it is heavy metal has hac a hard time from the establishment, especial! in the US. I'm not trying to put thrash medown but don't want to see the whole ipe; world brought down by a trend that is start to make as much of an obnoxious name itself as punk did in the mid-seventies. D believe it? Just you wait and see. O H j J H o S f T P o o K o p f R E S S L P

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Here's a s h o r t i n t e r v eiw w i t h US D i s t r e s s . Kike f i l l e d out the questions Gored. Endless Struggle;How lorjig has US D i s t r e s s been t o g e t h e r ? Mike; I 1/2 years •5; Who . r ers, age, & have an~"- tggabera been i n other bands? Mike; me, v o c a l s , 22, Tony: g u i t a r , 21,-Greg; bass, 24, Damon; g u i t a r 19, & Moe; drums, 24. We've a l l been i n previ o u s bands. D i s o r d e r l y Conduct, 10-96, Bleedi n g Rabbis, R i s i n g For ce, & even mainstreamtop-40 bands, ha*. ES; How would yu describe your music & l y r i c s ? Mike; h i - e n e r g y , f a s t slow. L y r i c s are u s u a l l y w r i t t e n by me, they d e a l w i t h l i f e i n genera l , oppression, love, h a t e , war, b e t r a y a l etc. ES; How's t h e demo • s e l l i n g af , er the MRR revu? Mike; GJ eat'. ES; Have vou done many gigs? Mike; We played a l o t o f g i g s over almost 5 y r s . L e t ' s see..; Toxic Reasons, C i r c l e Jerks,Cruc i f u c k s , Youth of Today & a m i l l i o n l o c a l bands i n a l o t o f towns. -EE; Do any o f the banc t r y t o be i n v o l v e d & awage of v a r i o u s s i t , i n G;-r w o r l d ? Mike; We're a l l aware of what's happeni n g , t h o none o f us are r e a l l y i n v o l v e d . I pers o n a l l y get i t t h r u i n the music. ES: What.,-do you do besides the band 2 Mike; me & Greg own H a r l e y s & r i d e them v/henever p o s s i b l e , ska*" t e , d r i n k , go see other bands e t c , ES; Any b i g p l a n s f o r US D i s t r e s s t r i g g e r than t h i s i n t e r veiw maybe?)? A

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Mike; s m a l l midwest t o u r We were gonna p l a y 2 g i g s i n Canada but some o f our shows t u r n e d bunk. Plus an Lp t h i s w i n t e r . ES; F i n a l words? Mike; Yeah, s u p p o r t your scene s t a y c l e a n , j u s t say no,, hal And Rock on'.

Bands ; a g r e a t 4-pce, U n n a t u r a l S i l e n c e have broken up... Subverse went t o the UK t o do a few g i g s . . . A d v e r s i t y are r e c o r d i n g f o r an Lp w i t h Manic Ears... Neomorte l o s t t h e i r drummer but n o t o n l y gained a reUS D i s t r e s s ; 2305-^9th placement, but have also Ave, Kenosha, Wise. added a 2nd g u i t a r i s t , 53140. USA what a deal'. They sound l i k e M e t a l i c k a , hahahat \ No, they sound r e a l l y good .now... D i o x i n members' have g o t t e n back t o g e t h e r but won't be c a l l ed D i o x i n . . . any drummers out t h e r e who a r e n ' t •Yeah r e a l q u i e t l a t e l y i d i o t s ? W r i t e me & we'l here i n Vancouver. Any form a band, t o waste on g i g s are 'no minors' these lamoid bands (Haha g i g s , i n Oct. was GBH, Zines; U r i n a l Slime shouAccused, & V e r b a l Abuse, l d be out soon... I a l s o t h a t month Dr. Know t h i n k t h e other l o c a l p l a y e d . The I n t e n s - I zines have gone i n t o h i b ; Thon w i t h DOA, No Means e m a t i o n , addresses a t No, I n d u s t r i a l Waste Ban- back o f z i n e . *Yawn. ned (who a l s o broke u p ) , Death Sentence, Roots Foundup, I , B r a i n e a t e r , a few other- bands, poets v i d e o s , & t a b l e s setup by v a r i o u s groups;. Open ,Road> VESAC, IPOW; , Open Road 'held a bene f i t g i g w/ Neomorte, Animal Slaves, Roots Roundup... t h i s i s p o i n t less i s n ' t i t ? I really 0 f starvation. couldn't careless...

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f " I b e l i e v e d i n God; but when I saw so g r e a t an i n e q u a l i t y between men, I acknowledged t h a t i t was n o t God who c r e a t e d man, b u t man who c r e a t ed God. And I discovered t h a t those who want t h e i r p r o p e r t y t o be respected, have an i n t e r e s t i n preaching t h e e x i s t e n c e o f paradise & h e l l , & i n keeping t h e people i n ignorance." Santa Caserio, an a n a r c h i s t , ( f r . Anarchism & o t h e r essays, Emma Goldman.)

I am so bored, j u s t s i t t i n g here, w r i t i n g words on paper, answering q u e s t i o n s , ( F i l l i n g i n time). I ' d r a t h e r be o u t s i d e , l y i n g on the green grass, or w a l k i n g on the beach, but no, I am here, i n t h i s classroom, trapped f o r the day, w a i t i n g f o r the end. • S.M.H.- y 28. '86.

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There was no breeze t h a t day, J u s t a y e l l o w sun hanging, FutKJrvA,Man. Hot & d r y , I n a s t i l l , s t i l l space, Suspended by i t s r a y s , I t reached out & caught a l l , The heat seemed t o choke the 3 n From a l l l i v i n g t h i n g s , S?ft£AWMG FASTER T H A W A I M The moisture being sucked up, I n t o the b l u e , blue sky, There were no clouds, Mm. To stop & break the f o r e v e r a: The black s o i l steamed under .tsrrTHtfttostt R. The pressure o f i t s weight, Jn«>X SPUSKf HAW. The vapours s l o w l y r i s i n g , Going up t o the sun, X O O R S * B r a SUPPORTS U S . C O N :As...4 T R A S . . . * L i k e snakes dancing, SHELL* qASQPrtt SUPPORTS APARTHIED. L>... / For t h e i r f i n a l freedom before They are eaten i n the f e a s t . D ) E SATE-AVOID AJLU LAK^E CORPORATION^: S.M.H. THIS M A M i-OOK \A)TEwi-IGE>JT ? X

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Ian Stuart Donaldson is on the verge of launching a new nazi party along with fellow boot boys Nicola Crane and Des Clarke. So far [he party has no name but its publication will be called Biood and Honour.

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Stuart's main claim to fame is his association with the sick nazi music scene via groups like Skrewdriver and Skullhead. Crane, the right's finest example of a clinical psychopath, is also engaged in building a "gay skins" movement, which meets on Friday nights at the London

Apprentice pub in Shore-ditch. Stuart's existing group, closely lini to the Holland/Griffin faction of the is the White Noise Club. This orgai ation boasts support from as far away a Chicago, Stockholm and Hambir Violence follows them wherever th perform. Their London operational ba is the Prince Albert pub in Kings Cros: Stuart's latest project could well be thi next stage of the NF's master plan — th; creation of a street fighting crew thai ca> be distanced at least on paper from its NI pupp'-t masters.

wasn't such a good i d e a a f t e r a l l ' , Some p o i n t s t o remember; Anarchy i s i n how you i n t e r p r e t i t , be i t s y n d i c a l i s t , m i l i t a n t , communist, e c o l o g i s t e t c . , i t can be i n d i v i d u a l , s o c i a l , i t can be an i d e a l , or r e a l i t y now, i t a l l depends on how YOU t h i n k o f i t .

For myself, the t u r n i n g p o i n t t o Anarchy, and my r e c e n t conversion t o i t , r e s u l t e d i n me t a k i n g a good look a t g o v ' t , systems, aski n g myself 'why should I work i f I don't want t o , who are they t o say I must pay them money t o l i v e w i t h a r o o f over my head?"...and j u s t r e a l i s i n g that t h i s gov't, idea

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