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2018 Woman Executive of the Year for The Shelby Report of the West:

Valerie Jabbar

President of Ralphs Grocery Co. For her three decades in the grocery industry, her leadership abilities, her embracing of new c­ hallenges, her devotion to education and giving back in her career as well as her determination to keep her family life a priority— all of these reasons pointed to Valerie Jabbar as a worthy recipient of the Woman Executive of the Year honor from The Shelby Report of the West.

Jabbar got her first retail job at a store called Smitty’s Big Town in 1987. Ahead of its time, the Arizonabased format was a combination grocery store, department store, restaurant and garden center, and Jabbar gained experience in departments other than grocery there. A series of mergers followed, with Fred Meyer, Smith’s and Fry’s, landing Jabbar in the Kroger organization.

During her career, she has served in leadership roles including assistant store director, category manager, Drug/ GM coordinator, G.O. seasonal manager, assistant director of Drug/GM and director of Drug/GM, as well as district manager in the Fry’s Division. In 2012, Jabbar moved to the Mid-Atlantic Division to serve as VP of merchandising before moving to the Ralphs Division in 2013 as VP of merchandising. Jabbar was promoted to president of Ralphs in July 2016.

Jabbar attended the Colorado Institute of Art and has also completed leadership seminars at Babson College and University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business. She is a board member of the Western Association of Food Chains (WAFC), president of the City of Hope Food Industry Council and serves as a mentor for the Ralphs Division Women’s EDGE, an associate resource group that develops talent.

Following are excerpts from VP-West Bob Reeves’ interview with Jabbar as well as written responses from Jabbar herself about her thus-far-three-decades in the grocery ­business. The wisdom she has gained and the enthusiasm she still has for the business are evident.

Reeves: Tell me about your upbringing.

Jabbar: I was born in St. Louis, Missouri, to Denise and Dan Foster. They were teenage parents that wed at a very early age. We lived with my grand­parents for the first couple years of my life, which created a forever-strong bond with my grandma, 85 this year, who has always been an inspiration to our family.

I am the oldest of four siblings.

I have one sister, Adrienne (the youngest), and two brothers, Ryan and Keith. They each are married and have blessed our family with seven children. Last summer we started a new tradition—they come to California for a week on summer break to “Camp Valerie.” With everyone living in different states, it allows a chance to stay connected, as does modern technology.

I went to a Catholic elementary school as a child and moved to Arizona my freshman year of high school. My mom and stepdad were in the restaurant industry, and their jobs brought us there.

After high school, I wanted to pursue being a fashion designer and went to the Colorado Institute of Art. There, I found out my artistic ability was just not quite what I thought it was, so I

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2018 Woman Executive of the Year started to pursue fashion merchandising, which included product promotion, development, production and other disciplines. I moved back to Arizona after school.

Q: Is that when you got into the food industry?

When I got back to Arizona, I started working at Smitty’s Big Town, a local market that was like a supercenter—a huge department store, grocery store, restaurant and garden center all under one roof. Clyde Smith, who started Smitty’s, was a true visionary who saw the future of the customer experience like no other at that time. Everyone loved shopping at Smitty’s, and I thought it would be a fun place to work while pursuing other opportunities in fashion merchandising. Little did I know at the time I would continue to work in this great industry for 31 years.

I loved working at Smitty’s and had some great mentors that gave me the chance to have many different experiences that would help me grow. I started in the lingerie department. Not many grocers probably have that story line! I then moved into being department manager for

children’s, men’s, women’s and domestic/housewares. I later moved over to the grocery side to be night manager, grocery manager and assistant store manager. I thought grocery was interesting (at Smitty’s); it was a fun side of the business. It was forever changing. There were a few women working on that side of the store during that time, but not many.

I then moved into the corporate office to be apparel buyer.

Then the mergers started. We first merged with Fred Meyer, then Smith’s and later Fry’s, which made us part of the Kroger family of stores. All of the mergers made Fry’s a very special place in the end because we had a unique blend of talent from all of the companies we had merged with. This talent gave us a competitive edge in the market.

After we merged with Kroger, more opportunities presented themselves, as we were now a company of more than 2,000 stores vs. 100, spread across the United States instead of just in Arizona. Soon after the merger, I had the opportunity to be a supervisor in the field and to

be a sales manager back in the office.

Then, in 2001, just after my second daughter was born, I was offered a position in Cincinnati to buy seasonal for The Kroger Co.—the entire company. This was a big step for me and my family; it was my first big move. I was working with a team I did not know and that did not know me and I was buying for more than 2,000 stores.

This was one of the best jobs I had. I made some very good friends, grew in my professional career a lot and had a different appreciation for the team that worked in Cincinnati. They were talented, welcoming and wanted the best for our customers and the divisions.

After a couple years in that role, I moved back to Arizona to take on an operations role in the field supporting the stores. I went back into the office as the drug/GM merchandiser for the Fry’s stores for a couple years and a district manager for another couple of years. I was getting my operations experience along with my merchandising experience. I managed a district of 25 stores. That was a great experience. As a district manager I had the opportunity to impact so many associates in a positive way.

All of these positions gave me a solid foundation for my next role, which was in Roanoke, Virginia, as VP of merchandising for the Mid-Atlantic division. I was there for a couple of years. From there, I had the opportunity to return to the West and to Ralphs

As leaders, we experience many chance encounters that may change the course of an individual’s career and their professional impact. One such meeting occurred several years ago at a company forum where I had the opportunity to meet Valarie Jabbar and observe her innate leadership skills. I knew she was a rare talent—she could make things happen!

The confidence and knowledge she imparted defined her as influencer of people and driver of results. There was no doubt that I wanted her on the Ralphs team!

Her tenure at Ralphs as VP of merchandising provided a critical contribution to the success of Ralphs as she understood our customers and knew how to connect in meaningful ways.

Employees knew her expectations and executed her high standards because she appreciated them. “Inclusiveness” describes Valerie’s management style… always soliciting for opinions, ideas and feedback...creating sound, thoughtful decisions.

Undoubtedly, Valerie was destined to be president of Ralphs and, of course, she continues to excel, generating legendary results.

Even though her successes are many, her proudest and most important moments are those spent with her family. Her three beautiful daughters have always been her focus and her purpose. No wonder they, too, are accomplished, loving women.

Valerie has it “all”!

I am one of Valerie’s biggest fans and continue to cheer for her! Her professional impact has changed me forever and is the reason I am so thrilled to congratulate her as 2018 Woman Executive of the Year!

—Donna Giordano Former President Ralphs Grocery Co.

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2018 Woman Executive of the Year as VP of merchandising. Then, after two years here, I was promoted to president after Donna Giordano retired. I was very thankful to be able to continue to work with this awesome team!

Q: So you’ve done some moving around.

My family and I have moved four times in the last 17 years. Moves can be hard, but at the end of the day, your home is where you make it, as long as your children and your partner are there with you. I had that support, and I think it has actually made us all stronger and more change-adaptive. We experienced many new places in each area we lived and met good friends in each place as well.

My husband, Sam, has always been an entrepreneur and had his own businesses. When we moved to Cincinnati, he had a jewelry store in Arizona; he bought, sold and manufactured Indian jewelry. As my career started to excel and we started to move around, he maintained that business for some time but eventually sold it.

From a career growth perspective, I could have never

learned what I did about our parent company or our associates and customers in different regions had I not worked directly with them in Virginia, Ohio, Arizona and California.

Roanoke, Virginia, is much different than Arizona. You have weather conditions that impact the business; people eat differently; they have different schedules, different family sizes. We experienced hurricanes in Virginia Beach and snowstorms in Roanoke. In that one division alone, we had Raleigh/Durham, West Virginia, Richmond, Virginia Beach and Roanoke, so it was almost like five different divisions in one. In each of those areas the customer demanded something different and the associate was different, so you had to manage The Jabbar sisters: Sofia, Danielle and Mirah. differently.

Q: How have you seen the number of women in management change during your career?

When I was coming up, in the beginning there were not many that I knew of. But there were always many in the pipeline, and today the landscape is incredibly different than 31 years ago.

Throughout Kroger today I am one of many female presidents running a division.

Q: Who are some of your mentors?

I have been blessed with so, so many, but to just call out a few, I will start with my mom.

She taught me the value of faith, family, hard work and believing you could do anything. She has always been my biggest fan!

Valerie with her mom, Denise.

Kirk Reinke hired me back at Smitty’s (he’s still a district manager in the Fry’s division) when he was a store manager.

We still keep in touch. He was a man with high standards, high expectations—a perfectionist. He taught me to always have high standards and run a great store.

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2018 Woman Executive of the Year I can’t begin to tell you how proud I am of Valerie and what she has accomplished during her career. I’ve known Valerie since 1987, when she started with our company as a retail clerk. She has gained a vast amount of retail knowledge and experience from the many positions she has held. She has earned the respect of those she works with through her strong work ethic and high level of integrity.

She is passionate about sales and results and about people, especially her associates. She puts her customers first in everything she does and every decision she makes. She is a strong leader who develops others and sets a good example for others to follow. To see her start her career as a shy clerk and now the president of Ralphs makes me very proud. She is well qualified to be “Woman Executive of the Year.”

—Kirk Reinke District Manager Fry’s Food Stores, a division of Kroger Mark Tuffin was also my store manager, district manager and my SVP. He has taught me to always challenge status quo and encouraged me to think outside the box, test and learn.

Lisa Holsclaw showed me you could be a great mother and be a great executive at the same time; it didn’t have to be one or the other. She was VP of merchandising, and she mentored me at Fry’s throughout my career there. She became a president in one of the divisions. She has since retired.

Donna Giordano was the first woman president I had worked for. One of the reasons I wanted to come to Ralphs was to work for a woman president because in my career I had never worked for a woman president. I wanted to see what I could learn from her in that leadership role. I surely learned a lot from her. One of the many important lessons she taught me to always be your genuine self.

Tim Massa (group VP of human resources and labor relations) also has been a great mentor and sponsor in the last 10 years. He has given great advice on new experiences and leadership and helping me create long-term relationships.

Mike Donnelly (COO for The Kroger Co.) has always been the leader in my career that has pushed me to do more and had confidence in me when I may not have had confidence in myself at that moment in time.

Jabbar Is 2018 FIEP Executive-in-Residence

The USC Marshall School of Business Food Industry Executive Program (FIEP) in January named Valerie Jabbar its Executive-in-Residence for FIEP 2018. Each year, USC Marshall designates an Executive-in-Residence “from nominees with exceptional leadership experience who will bring a valuable vision and deep commitment to the food industry program attendees seeking professional development and inspiration.”

Jabbar is president of Ralphs Grocery Co., a division of The Kroger Co. that operates 191 stores throughout Southern California and employs more than 20,000 associates.

“It is an honor to serve in this capacity for the Food Industry Executive Program,” said Jabbar. “I am an advocate for education programs such as FIEP that help develop industry leaders and provide them with the skills and tools to progress and innovate.”

Ralphs sends at least one associate through the FIEP every year, Jabbar told The Shelby Report.

Valerie Jabbar Cynthia McCloud, director of the USC Marshall Food Industry Management Programs, said Jabbar “serves both our industry and her company by investing in the development of future leaders. In addition, Ms. Jabbar has an impressive track record of teaching and mentoring her associates about key leadership principles that will help them grow in their careers.”

The spring session of the Food Industry Executive Program (FIEP) will be held March 12-15; the fall session will be held Sept. 17-20. Visit marshall.usc.edu/fiep for more detailed information, faculty information and course schedule.

The Food Industry Management Program at the University of Southern California’s Marshall School of Business was established in 1958. Each year, students attend either a four-day executive program or a semester-long leadership program. The leadership program selects a maximum of 35 students from a wide range of companies in the food industry. Each student accepted into this elite program receives a full-tuition scholarship from the Western Association of Food Chains (WAFC). Those selected must have proven records of management accomplishments with significant potential for future advancement.

Q: What are some of the skills that have served you well in your career?

Anyone can be a manager, but to be a leader is a special skill set.

Work hard; don’t pass by a new experience or challenge that will help you grow personally or professionally. It’s OK to be scared.

Be a great listener. This takes real discipline, but when you really listen you learn a lot. If you don’t listen, you can miss that important nugget that could be critical in your conversation.

Choose your team wisely and always be honest with them.

Never become complacent; always stretch yourself and your team.

Thank people often; appreciation and recognition goes such a long way.

Having worked with Valerie for many years, I have unique insight into all she has accomplished and her impact not just on The Kroger Co., but on the industry as a whole. She is a strong leader who always puts people first, and she drives others to reach and exceed their goals. Valerie will continue to lead and influence throughout her career while making a difference in people’s lives.

—Mike Donnelly, EVP and COO The Kroger Co. Don’t be afraid to hold people accountable; they will appreciate it.

And pay it forward. Someone—or, in my case, many people—helped me achieve my professional objectives along the way; now it is my turn to do the same for others.

Work hard but also play hard. It’s so important to have that balance, but family first.

Q: Tell me about your family.

Choose your spouse wisely! I am very fortunate to have Sam’s support in my job. He has been my rock, a great father, always there for the girls and me for whatever we may need. He is an awesome chef and has taught the older girls to also be great cooks.

He loves to play golf, bike and travel.

We have three amazing girls.

Danielle is 29; she works in real estate and lives in Connecticut.

She just had our first granddaughter, Olivia, who is seven months old. She is married to Blane.

Mirah is 20 and in her third year of nursing school in Virginia.

She is looking to specialize in pediatrics and going on to get her nurse practitioner degree. Sofia is 16 and just started driving. She’s a junior in high school and plays year-round high school soccer on her varsity soccer team and with the LA Galaxy club team. (Lastly, we have two rescue dogs that are also part of the family: Molly, four years old, and Poppy, six months. They’re smaller mixed breeds with great dispositions, and they’re very spoiled!)

Being a mom helps me look at the business through the eyes of our future generations—our

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Valerie with her first grandchild, Olivia.

new customers, our new associates. It helps me ask myself the question what’s important to them? Are we offering that? They make me think outside the box on how we will continue to evolve in order to be relevant to them today and tomorrow. I ask the girls endless questions about what they eat, how they shop and what is important to them.

Thank goodness for technology; we stay connected through FaceTime. We do FaceTime every Sunday with Olivia and Danielle, and almost every other night with Mirah. We feel like they’re not so far.

When they were growing up, I did the best that I could do to be there for the most important things.

I had to weigh, is this something the girls really want me to be at and I really need to be at, and is it something they are going to remember 10 years from now if I miss it? Or is it something that really isn’t going to matter next week? But Sam, with his the community. From left: Myeisha Gamino, Victor Smith, flexible schedule, was such a support. Whatever I Ralphs contributes to Rosales and Valerie Jabbar of Ralphs; Michael Flood, CEO of the Los Vanessa couldn’t attend, he was definitely there to support Angeles Regional Food Bank. them.

Q: Have you always wanted to be a leader?

No, not so much a role or a specific title; however, I have always been self-motivated, always strived to learn more. I’m very adaptable to change and competitive—I love to win! My brothers and sisters would definitely tell you I was a leader— even as a child (laughing).

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Q: What is your stance on the importance of education?

Education is extremely important to me—one of the best investments we can make is in our people! In our business, education starts when we hire someone into a store and train them to ensure they understand our purpose and to be confident to do the job they were hired for.

As our associates move up, we have another level of training for our department managers to ensure they are successful, as well as our Leadership Essentials training for becoming more confident and getting promoted for our assistant store managers. There also are additional leadership classes for our store managers, some of which are internal and some of which we hire college professors to teach.

Six years ago, when I was in Virginia, I rolled out EDGE (Engage, Develop, Grow and Empower), a group for highpotential women where we focused on strengthening their leadership skills in efforts to make them more confident leaders and want to continue to excel in our business. It was the first group like that in the Mid-Atlantic region. When I

Valerie, Congratulations on your welldeserved recognition.

Thank you for your friendship and leadership. Gratitude is a gift from the heart; thank you for keeping City of Hope so close to your heart.

With love from me and the City of Hope Family.

—Cheryl Kennick Senior Director of Corporate Philanthropy City of Hope/ Food Industries Circle

Valerie Jabbar, President of Ralphs Grocery Co.

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arrived at Ralphs, we rolled out EDGE here as well. We had so many people that were interested in it because they had seen other women getting leadership training. The group was excited about what they were learning and talking to their peers about it that we had a group of men approach us and ask for the same program for them. So today we have an EDGE group for women and an EDGE group for men!

We also support our associates in obtaining a Retail Management certificate through the WAFC, which allows them to take classes that focus on our industry and complete them while still working at their own pace. We have hundreds of associates enrolled in this program.

We also offer one executive a year the chance to participate in the USC Food Industry Executive Program for a week and then also we choose one high-potential team member a year to put into the 16-week USC FIM (Food Industry

Anyone who has had the pleasure of working with Valerie Jabbar has seen her commitment to her Ralphs associates, Ralphs customers and her family.

Valerie leads her team with passion, grace and vision. In addition, she is a true partner with the vendor community and a consummate professional.

Valerie, congratulations on this well-deserved honor! You should be extremely proud of your impact as a leader, a role model and certainly of your success and results!

All the best.

—Cathy Dorman Account Executive–Kroger Team Reyes Coca-Cola Bottling Placentia, California Valerie addresses team members at an awards party.

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2018 Woman Executive of the Year Management) Program. I am committed to helping our associates further their training and education. We also offer a tuition reimbursement benefit to our associates as well.

One of the best parts of my job is to see our people grow, to take on new challenges, to gain more confidence—they are our future!

Q: Tell me about your philanthropic endeavors.

Feeding the hungry is one we feel very strongly about.

It is very disturbing that 1 in 8 Americans goes to bed hungry every night—something that many of us have never experienced. No child or adult should be hungry.

In 2017 our company announced our Zero Hunger | Zero

Continuing ed

Jabbar attended a weeklong leadership program built around rowing at the University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business in Charlottesville, Virginia. At the time she was working at Fry’s in Arizona.

“It was an excellent program that through a weeklong rowing lesson taught a combined group of merchants and operators the value of communication, alignment and roles and responsibility. They were teaching us through the act of rowing that when we have good communication how much easier our job is,” she said.

“Sometimes merchandising and operations may not be in full alignment, and…the first day we got out there, we were going in all different directions, paddles hitting each other, getting wet—it was chaos.

By the end of the week, after we learned how to work together, how to communicate better, for everybody to have a specific role and job to do, for everyone to be aligned and understand the goal, we were rowing across that lake, just gliding.”

Jabbar also attended a leadership program at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia.

It “allowed us to work with other industry leaders and analyze case studies of big companies, some of which were successes as they went through change and transformation, and some of which are no longer around today because they did not change fast enough and did not see the future of where the customer was going.”

Valerie in the television studio with fellow Ralphs executives.

Waste initiative. Our goal is to end hunger in our communities and eliminate food waste in our company by 2025.

It will take all of us working together and with partners to make a difference.

In addition, I am active in the community and sit on multiple boards. I am president of the City of Hope’s Food Industries Circle and a board member of the Western Association of Food Chains. I appreciate the opportunity to mentor others and serve as an advisor for Ralphs’ EDGE group and also serve as Executive in Residence for USC’s Food Industry Executive Program.

Q: What is your proudest accomplishment at Ralphs?

My team is my proudest accomplishment. They are so proud of what they do every day; they’re loyal; and they strive to make a positive difference in the lives of one another and our customers. Our purpose at Ralphs is to “Feed the Human Spirit” of thousands of associates and customers that we come in contact with every day. And

Valerie visits with a Ralphs associate at a store.

every day that we wake up and come to work gives us a new opportunity to do this again and again. Our teams Feed the Human Spirit by uplifting each other and our customers, by performing simple acts of kindness that make people feel good. Everyone can sell a can of green beans, but one of our points of difference I hear every day from our customers is our people. Our customers come to our stores because of them; they make them feel welcome and like family, and for that I am so very thankful!

Q: What is your advice for young women considering a job in the food industry?

It is a great career with endless opportunities. Whatever your passion may be, we have careers in sales, marketing, operations, human resources, engineering, real estate, finance, accounting,

Valerie is an extremely talented, passionate and dedicated leader. As president of Ralphs Grocery Co., she supports and inspires her associates to attain advanced education for the betterment of their lives and to achieve success in their careers. The WAFC is extremely proud that she serves on our board of directors and we congratulate her on this honor.”

—Carole Christianson COO Western Association of Food Chains

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Dear Valerie Jabbar,

THANK YOU FROM ONE SMALL VENDOR

My name is Peter Harris, and I currently own two brands called The Silver Palate and Grain Berry. When I saw that a tribute was being put together for you, I asked the nice folks at The Shelby Report if I could write a letter instead of running an ad. Of course, I offer my heartfelt congratulations to you, but wanted you and every person who still works at Ralphs to know and understand how sincerely grateful and honored I am and have been for being allowed to do business with your company since the late 1970s. I’ve also been lucky to work with my father, who for many years has kept creating products for us to sell to the grocery industry and giving me a reason to come to Southern California from New Jersey.

Not that I don’t appreciate every grocery retailer (big or small), whether it be Ralphs, Vons, Albertsons, Gelson’s, Vicente Foods, Bristol Farms, Sprouts, Stater Bros., Jonathan’s, Keil’s, Major Market, Frazier Farms, Jensen’s and so on, because I do, big time. However, no group of people or company in the U.S. has always cared enough to give our small brands a chance when no one else would like Ralphs Grocery Co. Whenever we needed to sell some cases to get a new item or concept started, we’d go to your headquarters in Compton and visit with whichever buyer was responsible. No group of people anywhere wanted to sell product more so than those at Ralphs. Whether it was the Dairy Division or the Grocery Division, it didn’t matter.

I could name so many people—including Steve Lewis, Jeff Hall, Ken Boatner, Darrel Ikeda, Joe Valencia, Jim Small, Kevin Davis, Ken Hanshaw, John Piersma, Lester Taylor, Barbara Sparrow, the folks at the front desk, the list is endless—but there was a common piece of DNA that everyone had. Every single person was always friendly, open-minded, aggressive in their own way, caring and welcoming to a small vendor from 3,000 miles away. They would also always take the time to see me and hear what I had to say.

I have been given so many opportunities at Ralphs, including our newest products – Grain Berry Cereal, Silver Palate Pasta Sauce and Silver Palate Oatmeal. Even though I’m in two of the most competitive categories in the industry (RTE Cereal and Pasta Sauce), the people at Ralphs, as long as I had our aggressive programs to sell product, would support me no matter what.

I realize things change, and they have since the The Kroger Co. bought you, but know you lead the most unique and special group of people that exist in the grocery industry today. Ralphs Grocery Co. has a tremendous history, and you truly have my congratulations and I wish you good luck and success going forward. I’ve heard so many wonderful things about you, but keeping the Ralphs culture alive is your greatest challenge.

This section is a real tribute to you, of course, but please accept my heartfelt thanks for allowing me and my brands to grow as you have.

Take good care,

Peter Harris President, The Silver Palate

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Valerie Jabbar and Victor Smith talk about the “Taste of Italy” promotion in Ralphs stores.

Sam and Valerie with daughters Mirah and Sofia during one of their beach vacations.

pharmacy, nursing (nurse practitioners), technology, digital, consumer insights...the list goes on.

It’s always going to come down to working hard and work ethic.

And being confident and being knowledgeable and getting that confidence and knowledge from stretching yourself. Trying new experiences and not shying away from those new experiences.

Q: How do you relieve stress?

Sometimes it’s just going out for a good walk, getting outside and getting some fresh air. My husband and I do a lot of biking and hiking.

I like to travel and I love food—that’s always a great stress reliever, right?

The girls love to travel to Maui; they are all about a good beach vacation. We also do some of the Carolina beaches. We visit Arizona often because we have so much family there.

And now, with a new grandbaby in Connecticut, we’ve been traveling over there.

We have also visited Spain and Italy and would love to go back to some of these spectacular countries.

Q: What do you see in your future? More moves?

Who knows? It’s a great question. I believe in living in the moment, one day at a time, and I think I have one of the best jobs there is! I always say when you quit loving what you do, you should stop doing it; life is too short. I love what I do here in So Cal at Ralphs. I am surrounded by an incredibly talented team that I am honored to work with!

And we have a lot more work to do here. So, I would say only time will tell.

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