The Telescope 41.15

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Palomar College

Volume 41 No. 15

A Publication for the Associated Students

Tuesday. March 22. 1988

San Marcos, CA

Approval sought for FM station

Palomar has applied to the Federal Communications Commission for approval to construct an FM station which would operate from studios located on campus. The station would be heard over a wide area of North County at 88.9 MHz on the FM dial. (L to R) Russell Jackson, radio instructor and KKSM路FM cable station manager; Dr. Jan Moser, Interim Assistant Superintendent/Vice President of Instruction; Dr. David Chapple, Interim Superintendent/Vice President for Student Aft'airs; and Robert Sheppard, television instructor, look on as Superintendent/President Dr. George Boggs prepares to sign the FCC application recently. 路

Club is denied office space By Kevin Adams

Members of Palomar's Undefeated Club are not satisfied With the InterClub Council's efforts to find them office space. This semester, the club has submitted a request for space to the ICC. A council committee researched the problem, but decided that only some tables in the Student Union Building were available for the club members. The Undefeated Club is an Associated Students organization that helps 路 disabled students function at Palomar. The club, now the largest on campus with 105 members, is searching for space to help in the organizing of social events and for storing club equipment. Karl Waack, Undefeated Club vice president, feels that a club the size of his organization deserves more than a few tables in the Student Union. He says the space would be put to good use in executive meetings, tutoring the handicapped, as well as for storage space. Waack also feels th_at the Undefeated Club is especially deserVing of club space since they made space requests last semester that went unheeded. Waack questions the fairness shown by the ICC in the allocation of club

Director, supported the right of BSA to use their club room as they wish. "We don't normally consider a club 'folded out' because their membership is down one year," said Hankin. Hankin explained that the cause of the office space problem goes far beyond the dispute between the BSA and Undefeated clubs. He said that Palomar has simply run out of space for clubs because of the increased need for instructional space and the lack of matching state educational funds to handle the load. If the growth in the Palomar student population continues, he added, "We might lose all of our space." The space student organizations do have in the Student Union building has been decreased by the administration. Over several years, the administration has located five faculty offices and the Transfer Center in the Student Union Ken 路Green, chairman of the ASsoBuilding. The Transfer Center office ciated Student Government also men- was the Undefeated Club office prior tioned that the BSA is not active. "They to February, 1986. haven't elected an executive or had "The Student Union Building is a meeting this semester." Green spoke supposed to be for the students," out at the February 9 ICC meeting Waack said in regards to the faculty against the decision to give the Unde- offices there. "I see no reason for the feated Club no more than some space Administration to need the space for at "specific tables" in the Student board rooms and conference rooms in Union. the Student Union Building." Frank Hankin, Student Activities In response to the controversy over club space, campus president Dr. George Boggs, conceded that Palomar has a general shortage of facilities. "Campus-wide, facilities are a probBoth full and part-time students lem. We need to provide space for majoring in programs which will lead clubs to meet. And we need to look to an career in the building industry at better usage of the existing space," may be eligible for $500 award. said Boggs. The Building Industry Association How to make better use of the space is looking for an applicant with is something the ICC and Associated financial need and at least a 2.5 G.PA Students Government should decide, Applications are available in the Boggs added. Financial Aid Office. Deadline is April Boggs disagreed with Waack regard30 with the award being presented in ing conference rooms in the Student September. Union Building_:___He sai~ the senate Registered Nurses or L.V.N. students (Continued on page 4) from Vista, Oceanside, or Carlsbad are encouraged to apply for one of three $1000 scholarships offered by the TriCity Hospital Auxiliary. space. The ICC did not object when another club, the Black Student Alliance, decided to share their office space with a club of their own choice. According to Waack, that decision was made by the BSA faculty advisor, Dr. Michael King. The newly-formed student club, Palomar College Internationls, now shares office space with the BSA in the Student Union building. Waack says the decision as to what club would share the BSA office space was all arranged by King. King is now also the faculty advisor for the PCI club. "(BSA) could have asked us if they wanted to share their space," Waack suggested. Asking for fairness, he added, "the BSA has had no club for at least three semesters." At present, no reprensentative of the BSA is attending ICC meetin~.

RN grants are offered Students enrolled in the Registered Nursing Program should consider applying for one of the two $500 Helen Grant Scholarships awarded by the San Diego Association of Occupational Health Nurses (SDAOHN). The association is looking for a student who is in financial need, -conscientious, and respected by his/ her peers and instructors. The committee prefers that applicants write an autobiography containing all pertinent information which might convince the association they are worthy of selection. Deadline is April 15, and the scholarship will be awarded at SDAOHN'S brunch meeting in May. Send applications to: Esther Clauson, R.M. COHN, 2002 Avenue of the Trees, Carlsbad, Ca, 92008. For further information contact the Financial Aid Office.

Formal approval to construct an FM radio station which would operate from studios located on the college campus has been sought by Palomar College from the Federal Communications Commission. In making this announcement, Palomar's president, Dr. George R. Boggs, said the station would be heard over a wide area of the North County at 88.9 MHz on the FM radio dial. Since 1979 Palomar has operated a cable FM station, KKSM-FM, which can only be heard by stereo receivers connected to the Dimension Cable system. Russell Jackson, radio instructor and cable FM station manager, said the cable radio station programming has been very successful in training students for careers in radio broadcasting. With this new station, Jackson said Palomar would be able to disseminate information about the college to a wider range of radio listeners. It would become an important part of marketing the college to the community, particularly to young people who listen to the radio in great numbers. He said it would also improve the opportunities for students to participate in a realistic on-the-air situation while learning the skills necessary to succeed in the radio business. "Palomar already provides an outstanding instructional program for students," Jackson said. "Graduates are heard all over the radio dial in San Diego County, and as far away as Lubbock Texas, San Francisco and Los Angeles." For the North County population of more than 500,000 people, Palomar

would be providing the only local, noncommercial progranuri:ing schedule directed at this area, according to Dr. Boggs. Specialized programming would also be possible for such diverse groups as the nine Indian reservations, the large bilingual/Spanishspeaking population, senior citizens and other minority groups. Cultural programs such as college music concerts would be available, along with college sports events, news and public affairs programs directed toward North County issues. "The local commercial radio stations do a good job of reaching North County, but this station would be able to broadcast a wider diversity of programming for the groups mentioned," Jackson said. At a meeting ofthe Palomar governing board, March 8, Dr. Boggs thanked several individuals who helped with this application project: Jackson; Communications Department chairperson Dana Hawkes, whose department will supervise the new station as it has been doing with the existing radio station; Bruce McDonough, acting dean of vocational education and applied arts; Marvin Vosper, technical director; Bob Gonsett, consulting engineer of Communications General Corporation in Encinitas; and Washington D.C. attorney Richard Helmick, all of whose expertise was used to draft the vecy complicated application. Jackson expressed appreciation for the assistance of Radio Station KGMG owner Steve Jacobs and Chief Engineer S~ye Cilurzo in working with (Continued on page 4)

Officials struggre to curb speeding "We're all upset about the speeding," says Boyd Mahan, Campus Patrol supervisor. In a recent meeting Mahan and other school officials discussed the problem of speeding on campus, but could come up with few solutions. The meeting came shortly after an accident in lot 12 February 11, in which a teacher and a student were injured. Mahan suspects speed was part of the reason for the accident. "There is little question in my mind that speed was a contributing factor," he says. Lot 12 is called a "hazard" by Mike Ellis, director of Buildings and Grounds. It is dangerous not only because of speeding, he says, but because of drivers cutting directly across the parking lot instead of staying in marked lanes. The latest effort to slow down

drivers was the installation of speed bumps in lot 12, completed February 25. Although the speed bumps were put in shortly after the February 11 accident, Mike Ellis says there is no connection. The speed bumps were planned long before the collision occured. But speed bumps are not a complete solution to speeding, says Ellis. Many students speed despite them and often drive around them. Anotper solution is offered by Frank Hankin, director of student affarrs. He urges campus patrol officers to record the license plate numbers of students who are speeding, and reserves the right to suspend those students. Ellis points out that he does not want to see a "military" atmosphere on school grounds, but he would like to see students drive more safely.

Witnesses needed

Applicants should maintain a 3.0 G.PA and demonstrate motivation and determination although community service is not necessary. For further information contact the Financial Aid Office before the April 1 deadline.

An automobile accident occurred on Thursday February 11 at approximately 7:25 am. in student lot 12. If you witnessed the accident or if you have information pertinent to the incident please~ 941-4736.

Director of Buildings and Grounds Mike Ellis stands at a speed bump installed to slow speeders in lot 12. Whlle he was being filmed, a car skirted the bump, narrowly missing a parked car.

(Photo by Marilynn Young)


The Telescope, Tuesday, March 22, 1988

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Three week trek teaches awareness By Marla S. Miller

An exciting, demanding and intense three week course was offered to Palomar College students this summer. Nineteen students completed Health 21 (Health Education/ Fitness) and Counseling 10 (Quest for Identity) taught by Judy Mazzarella and Maria Miller. Our combined courses prepared students on campus for 60 hours before adjourning to the wilderness ofYosemite National Park. By combining a self awareness class with one that deals with health and wellness we hoped to give students a comprehensive look at themselves and an opportunity to improve their physical condition. The purpose of trekking in Yosemite was to give students a •real life test" of what they had learned in the classroom. In the wilderness students and instructors cooperated as a team for several days, preparing meals, eating, sleeping, hiking and entertaining one another around the campfire. This intense involvement as a group stripped away phoniness and facades and uncovered true personalities, values, and strengths.

and student to assist the injured student. With the aid of a flashlight, Judy and Brian completed the return hike to the Valley that evening to be greeted by our very tired and supportive group. Removed from familiar environments, students gained a wealth of new perceptions. Regarding their learnings from the wilderness outing students wrote: "I learned... about my inner strength and ability to overcome fear" "... about group dynamics, leadership, good planning and how strong I really am" "... that support is the main ingredient in making a person want to succeed" "... how to cope with things I didn't like." Students gained a greater awareness of human life and their dependency on lives of others. They realized it was the encouragement of the group that motivated them to succeed whether it be to reach the summit or to finish dinner cleanup. In the intrigue of the mountains they were more than nineteen individuals ... they were a group that had formed a significant bond. They knew about each others' compassion, endurance, willingness to help out and ability to lead.

Realization of their unlimited capabilities Our basecamp in Yosemite was the was another dimension of growth. Each Tuolumne Meadows area which provided student experienced pushing beyond pretrailheads to spectacular high alpine sites vious limits for physical endurance as they for day hiking. We ventured to the beautiful ascended the 5,000 feet to make it to the white cascades and emerald pools of Glen Half Dome summit. As one participant Aulin, climbed to the top of Lambert Dome . commented, "I found how hard I really can and relaxed and swam in the High Sierra push myself. I feel I can do anything I set waters of Dog Lake. These first hikes were my mind to." moderate and enjoyable. However, the last hike was chosen as a special challenge. Reaching a . difficult goal leaves the individual with the knowledge and confiOur final destination was Half Dome, "a dence that aspirations can be attained. crest of granite rising 4, 737 feet above the Attempting to reach a goal and meeting valley." Our group began this strenuous hike with defeat provides important insights as in the early AM., first climbing the scenic well and steep mist trail to Vernal Falls, through Health21/Counseling 10 presented stua forest of red firs and Jeffrey pines, and dents with personal challenges which still further up two-dozen rocky switch- required cooperation and initiative. These backs before confronting the intimidating learning experiences are invaluable in their Half Dome cables. These cables ascend for translation to everyday life. a quarter mile up a 45 degree angle and provided us with a super frightening view Health 21 / Counseling 10 will be offered down the dome's 2,000 foot face. again in the summer of 1988, meeting on campus June 16-30, 7:30 a.m.to 1:30 p.m. Eighteen students made it to the base of .The class then adjourns on a wilderness Half Dome and 14 others completed the outing to Yosemite National Park from July arduous climb to the summit. High altitude, 1-5. The course ends July 6 with an onblazing sun, a limited supply of water, and campus session. For more information, please call Ext. the threat of rattlesnakes all contributed to the endurance test of this hike. During 2179. the decent from the Dome one student suffered a sprain and had to be carried for Maria Miller is an associate professar three miles to a ranger station where she and wunselnr for the Counseling, Guihad to spend the night. Courage and dance, and Career Development · compassion were required of the instructor Departments. I

AT WITS END

Hurry up and wait By Matt SpM Dlf

There are several problems that I encounter each new semester on campus. If you enjoy waiting, the problems reaDy aren't that bad. In order to be the first in line, I camped out overnight at the campus bookstore. When the doors opened, I proceeded to follow a criss-crossed path through the store. At the end of the path was a dumb looking clerk who seemed eager to lose my registration and pick all the wrong books forme.

Amazed at the price ofbooks, I exclaimed, "DoeS this come with a V.C.R. or something?" I gave him all the money in my pocket, wrote my last check for the balance of my bank account, gave him the keys to my car and the mortgage to my house. In return, he handed me a Scantron and a number two pencil

Mail-=in registration is always fun.-People tell me to send my registration in early in

Letter to . the Editor I was deeply distressed to see the onesided view of Mary Reynaga printed in the March 11 edition of The Telescope. I thought that the primary duty of this paper was to inform the students. As reporters of news, you have the responsibility to present the issue fairly and completely. This power can be and is frequently abused; it is one of the editor's responsibilities to see that it is not. Perhaps the courtesy of an interview can be extended to Mary Reynaga. Unless of course you feel that .this would not be a news item that would be of interest to the students of this campus. It is sad enough that the average student is not aware of the issues that so vitally concern him, even sadder, however, is the selective reporting that furthers that ignorance. Concerned, Mitchell L. Murdock

order to have a better chance to get my classes. The fact of the matter is the earlier you send it in, the better your chances are of being screwed up by the computer. Being a well organized student, I turned in my registration early last fall hoping that I would receive it on time. But, alas, it arrived a week before finals. This spring I received my registration with perfect timing, and with all the correct cla88es. There's only one little problem: where the hell is Ozark Community College? With the hundreds of incoming freshmen · each year, the parking lots are always a bit overcrowded. If I can't find a place to park on campus, I usually head for the overflow parking lot in Oceanside. It's not that I mind parking there, but hitch-hiking back to school every day gets a little tiresome. I figure for 12 dollars a semester, the school should at least have valet parking. So if you're interested in attending college, take a number and stand in line. Don't be impatient The wait won't be any longer than, let's say, two or three days?

The Telescope Mary S. Hannify Editor-in-Chief Managing Editor . .. ... . ... Larry Bo~olie Assistant Managing Editor Robin Rauch Repmters ........ .... ..... Kevin Adams, Michele Anderson, Brad Cesmat, Tom Fitzpatrick, Scott King, Gregg Lawton, David Mounier, Rob Rowsey, Trish Sanders, Manny Sinatra, Fred Tracey Pfwtographers . .... .. .... . . Becky Adams, Marilynn Young Cartoonist .... . .. . . .. ... . .. . . Doug DeSio Advertising Manager . .... . . Mary Hannify Circulation Manager . . .... . Trish Sanders Jaurna{ism Advisor . ... .. .. Fred Wiiheim: Graphic Cammunications Advisors .. ... ........... . Neil Bruington, Linda Arce, Elizabeth Pinter The Telescope is published each Friday except during fmal exams and holidays. Letters to the editor and other correspon-· dence can be brought to the newspaper office, GJ-2, on the north side of the campus, or call Ext. 2450. Signed opinions are those of the individual writer and do not necessarily represent those of The Telescope.


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The Telescope, Tuesday, March 22, 1988

Baseball team gains top spot By David Mounier

Sitting alone atop the Pacific Coast Conference standings is Palomar's baseball team which gained the top spot with a convincing 9-3 win over Mesa College March 8, then tripped Imperial Valley7-1 March 10, followed by a 9-7 victory over MiraCosta, March 12. Coach Bob Vetter played down the contention that the Comets were the team to beat in the conference title chase, but did indicate that his team "is playing very well at this stage" in the season. Palomar journies to Mesa College March 24 for a 2 p.m. skirmish. The Comets have a win over both teams in first round play, nipping Southwestern 3-1 and later beating Mesa 93. It was another come-from-behind win for Coach Vetter's charges against MiraCosta, the Comets scoring in the late innings to maintain their perfect league record. Palomar rallied for three runs in the opening frame, when Ron Howard singled and stole second. Jeff Gilmore sacrificed Howard to third, who scored on Rick Menir's single. With Menir and Bill Dunckel at second and third, Clint Cruz doubled to left, chasing both runners home. MiraCosta scored once in the first and three times in the third for a 43 lead. Palomar regained the lead in

Cagers lose at state meet By Brad Cesmat

Dwight Myvett scored 19 points to lead top-ranked Columbia to an 8566 victory over Palomar in the quarterfinals of· the California Junior College Basketball Tournament played in Santa Clara March 12. Gary Williams led all scorers with 34 points, while also grabbing 12 rebounds for Palomar. The Comets trailed 46-29 at the half, but closed the gap to 10 midway through the second half, but could get no closer. "They (Columbia) are good, but we didn't play up to the way we have been playing," said Comet coach Andy Gilmour. "Their big kids are tough inside and we didn't rebound with them very well." Palomar guards Patrick Jones, Greg Edwards and Eddie Hodges suffered through a cold night shooting, scoring just 12 points between them. Palomar, which finished the season at 25-9, was riding a nine-game winning streak entering the game.

the fourth when Howard doubled home a pair of runs for a 5-4 Comet lead. MiraCosta snatched the lead back in the fourth with a three run rally and a 7-5 lead. After scoring a run in the fifth, the Comets tied the score in the seventh and went ahead in the eighth on Tino Lozano's solo home run. Palomar added an insurance run in the ninth, when Lozano sprinted home from second on a misjudged fly ball by the MiraCosta center fielder. The Comets used four pitchers against MiraCosta, with Ray Chatton picking up the win in relief. "Chatton really took command," said Vetter. P~omar pitching coughed up 10 hits, while the Comets collected 13 hits and committed two errors. Lozano with three hits, including a home run, and Howard with three hits paced Palomar at the plate. Against Imperial Valley, the Comets Infielder Ron Howard steals third base against Golden West, but the Comets lost 7-4 in recent action. started fast, scoring twice in the first Palomar is currently in first place after victories over Mesa, Imperial Valley and MiraCosta in the inning. Pacific Coast Conference. (Photo by Becky Adams) After Imperial Valley tallied their lone run in the third, Palomar came back with two more runs in the fourth, and a 4-1 lead, both runs coming on errors by the visitors. In the sixth frame, the Comets put the game out of reach. Clint Cruz and Mike Simmons singled to open the inning. Both runners moved up on a successes for the softball team last out 10 and keeping the other five in By Robin Rauch the infield. wild pitch, Cruz scoring on Manuel week The win gives the Comets a season Mobley's sharp single. Tino Lozano's In addition to the win over Mesa Defeating what coach Mark one bagger sent Simmons to the plate. Eldridge calls their "toughest compeCollege March 9, the team shut out record of 12-3-1, and a conference San Diego City March 11, and record of 3 wins, no losses. When with runners on second and tition" was the first in a series of announced that one of its players has third, the Comets picked up an insureceived a full scholarship. More good news came to the team rance run, when Imperial Valley last week when Malia Faumina pitcher Ray Collano balked in the Mesa's game was won with a clutch announced that she has accepted a eighth inning. hit by Kristina Barber in the second full scholarship from Louisiana TechOscar Lopez opened on the mound inning. It was a one-run homer, and nical University. for Palomar, being relieved in the third was the only run in the 1-0 game. The school is annually one of the inning by Chatton, who went six "It was a big win for us," says coach top ten softball teams in the nation. innings, and picked up the win. Bill Eldridge of the the game. Faumina's official signing takes place Painter hurled the ninth inning in By Brad Cesmat Mesa tied Palomar for the conferrelief of Chatton. ence championship last year. A first- AprillO. Pitcher Karrie Schott is also planPalomar pitching allowed only six Forward Gary Williams, the fourth- round win against them puts the ning to sign with a top college, but has hits to enemy batters, while the leading scorer in California JCs, has Comets in a good position, says yet to decide which one. She is Comets pounded out 11 hits and been voted Pacific Coast Conference Eldridge. choosing between Arizona State, played errorless ball, which brought Co-Player of the year. The shut-out against San Diego City Texas A & M, Louisiana Tech, Long the observation from Vetter: "This ball Williams, who averaged 27.5 points was called at five innings after Beach State, and Fresno State. club is consistant through nine a game in the conference and is Palomar had racked up 23 runs. innings, no big innings" where they averaging 25 points a game on the Among top performances in the Today the Comets host Grossmont' keep packing away at the scoreboard, season, will share the award with game were home runs by Karen Brown at 3 p.m. Eldridge says the team is a "scoring enough to win." Southwestern's Reggie Jordan. and Tina Firracone, three singles by contender for first place, and expects Mesa built a 3-1 lead in the first "He deserves every honor he gets," Malia Faumina, and a triple and a it to be a tough game. three innings against Palomar, scoring Palomar Coach Andy Gilmour said of double by Karrie Schott. Grossmont lost to Mesa 2-1 recently, twice in the opening frame and adding the 6-5 sophomore. In addition to hitting well, Schott and if .they were that close to Mesa, one in the third. The Comets scratched "Gary improved his scoring average also pitched a perfect game. She faced says Eldridge, they're going to be back for a run in the third when six points a game from his freshman 15 batters during the game, striking tough. Howard was safe on an error, stole year and he also is averaging three second, and raced home on Menir's more rebounds per contest." double. Williams broke the 40-point mark CAFETERIA MENU Highlighting the game was the twice this season. pitching of Mark Ringkamp, who Comet swingman Jake Hodges was pitched eight innings, coughing up also named to the first team. TUESDAY MONDAY eight hits, but striking out eight . Gilmour considered Hodges to be Tacos (3), refrled beans Spaghetti w/ meat sauce batters. Leading the Comets 12 hit the most underrated player in the mexican rice brussell sprouts, salad attack was Dunckel who went four for conference. five at the plate, scoring four times, Rich Prusinski was named to the garlic t~st · and Menir, who banged out three hits. honorable mention team.

Big wins pace softball team

Williams voted co-player of year

Andy Gilmour; 'coach of year' Andy Gilmour, who guided the Palomar Comets to a 25-9 season, has been named Pacific Coast Conference co-coach of the year in men's basketball. Gilmour, who was an All-Southern California community college selection at East Los Angeles College and later played at Cal State Los Angeles, came to Palomar in the fall of 1969. He had previously coached at Pasldena City College, where he was an assistant to UNLV coach Jerry Tarkanian. This season's Palomar team finished in a tie for second in the Pacific Coast Conference and went on in the state playoffs to the fmal eight before bowing to Columbia College 85-66.

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Palomar and being willing to share their transmitter site atop Mt. San Marcos. "That site will allow the new FM station to be heard from Del Mar to Temecula, and from Palomar Mountain to the coast," Jackson said. If this new station is granted a license by the FCC, the process may take up to three years, according to Jackson. However, Palomar has an advantage in that completely equipped radio stations already exist on the campus. This would reduce the cost of construction to only the transmitting facility. A new station, built from the ground up, would cost a great deal more, said Jackson. Dr. Boggs said there was a considerable amount of enthusiasm for this new station from the governing board, administration, faculty, staff and especially from the students in the Communications Department. "The students who are here now will not likely be around when the new station goes on the air, as they will be out earning a living or in a four-

year school. But they see what a great benefit there will be for the students who will follow them," Jackson said. "There is no guarantee the FCC will act favorably on our application, but this is the last opportunity for Palomar to apply for an over-the-air frequency in the FM radio band, so we are going for it," Jackson explained.

Instructor searches for display artifacts Linda R. Locklear, American Indian Studies instructor, and her class made a field-trip recently to prepare for display of Southwest Indian Culture at the library. The event is planned for the beginning of April. Students selected artifacts at the Museum of Man for the special showing. This will run in col\iunction with a display on women's history, according to Dan Arnsan, public services librarian.

conference room, located on the library side of the building, is the only available campus facility large enough to sit the entire administrative senate. He added that the senate conference room has been at the Student Union Building for about a year and a half. Boggs was unaware that club room space for students had decreased, but nevertheless supported the Transfer Center's right to office space at the Student Union. "I often pass by that part of the Student Union,_~nd (the _

It serves a useful purpose," the president replied. For the time being, the Undefeated Club is forced to store equipment in the disabled students faculty offices (HH building), and hold their meetings at members' homes. Equipment for seminar use, camping equipment (including tents and barbecues), and wheelchairs are presently stored in the HH building. Undefeated Club Advisor Ron Haines said "Right now (the Undefeated Club equipmen_t) is stored on

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