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No eye care at UHS: Where to go when no other options are in sight By Savana Dunning @savanaish

For students such as Devany Rodriguez, getting proper eye care means traveling back home to visit an optometrist. “I usually get them done in the summer,” journalism junior Rodriguez said about her regular eye exams. “I live in Laredo, and I go back … over the summer, so I get it done there. I think it’s cheaper over there. I have my doctor over there, and he has my files and everything so that’s easier for me.” From staring at the blue light of computer screens to squinting at a PowerPoint from the fifth row of the lecture hall, students strain their eyes every day while earning their degrees. Sixty-one percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 need vision correction, according to the optical industry research organization Vision Council. While University Health Services is a student resource for general health care, it does not provide eye exams. Sherry Bell, UHS Consumer Education and Outreach Coordinator, said optometry is a more specialized service than what UHS can provide. UHS operates more like a general doctor’s office that handles issues such as colds or flu shots, Bell said. “We’re a primary care medical facility, and consequently we don’t offer a lot of specialty medical care,” Bell said. “When we’re looking at the kinds of things we provide, we’re looking at our services based on the resources we have available and our budget, so we do what most students need most frequently.” The American Optometric Association recommends students get regular eye exams to recognize and prevent future eye problems. While students

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juan figueroa and angela wang| the daily texan file Incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz and his challenger, U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke, sparred in a televised debate highlighting their key domestic and foreign policy differences.

Cruz, Beto clash in debate Senator, challenger meet for second time in San Antonio ahead of November election. By Lyle Chad @LyleChad

or the second — and possibly final — time before election day, incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz and his challenger, U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke, sparred in a televised debate highlighting their key domestic and foreign policy differences. Both contenders, vying for a seat in the U.S. Senate, discussed issues such as abortion and the government response to Hurricane Harvey. The debate was jointly moderated by KENS-5

anchor Sarah Forgany and WFAA senior reporter Jason Whitely and broadcast from the KENS studio in San Antonio. In Forgany’s first question to Cruz, she asked if the country should expect changes to abortion law after the confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Cruz said he opposed abortion but did not say whether he thought the Court would act to repeal Roe v. Wade. “I believe that every human life is a gift from God,” Cruz said. “(As for) the question on Roe v. Wade, we’ll have to see when cases are decided.” In an early contentious moment of the debate, Cruz said O’Rourke supported a $10 per barrel oil tax, which the El Paso congressman disputed, calling Cruz dishonest. “Senator Cruz is not going to be honest with you,” O’Rourke said. “That’s why the President called him ‘Lyin’ Ted,’ and it’s why the nickname stuck.” On immigration, O’Rourke reiterated his opposition to a border wall, calling the idea ineffective.

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Colorful tapestries, photographs and event posters adorn the walls of the Native American and Indigenous Studies program. Soon, they will be taken down and moved, as the College of Liberal Arts plans to relocate the program’s office from Patton Hall. This has led some students to protest. The College of Liberal Arts has not decided where they will move the program. But David Oschner, the director of public affairs for the College of Liberal Arts, said more than 20 of their units have moved to new locations in the past five years to adjust for space. “The college is still evaluating new locations for the program,” Oschner said. “The relocation of units is something that occurs on a regular basis to accommodate expansion within our

college. This process continues as we rebalance space needs and work to accommodate several new programs and adjust to changes in program size.” Students who heard the program may be moved to Bellmont Hall, inside of Darrell K Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium, tried to petition against the move. However, Oschner said this was just a rumor. “I have no idea where the rumor came from,” Oschner said. “We’ve had several units move into and out of Bellmont, some temporarily while other space was made ready.” Because students said a relocation would inconvenience students in the program, some met with Randy Diehl, the dean of the College of Liberal Arts, last Friday, Oct. 12. “As a fellow person of color, if it matters to them, it matters to me,”

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Students protest plans to relocate UT Indigenous Studies Program By Neelam Bohra

“El Paso is one of the safest communities in Texas because of immigrants,” O’Rourke said. “No wall is going to solve security concerns.” Cruz denounced O’Rourke’s support for a single-payer healthcare system, calling it “socialized medicine.” “Every place that happens you get rationing and waiting games,” Cruz said, citing long waits for medical procedures in the United Kingdom. O’Rourke said he supported a variety of roads to universal healthcare, including Medicare-forAll and an option that would allow people to buy into Medicare. When asked about the government response to Hurricane Harvey, Cruz called out O’Rourke for his vote against an “emergency” disaster relief bill that he coauthored with fellow Sen. John Cornyn. “He said it didn’t provide enough tax relief – that’s not what he said at the time,” Cruz said. “The reason he voted no is he said he wanted to focus

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Biodiversity Center adds to collection of butterflies By Gracie Awalt @gracieawalt5

A collection of butterflies gathered over the lifetime of a UT alumnus has found a final home at the UT Biodiversity Center Entomology Collection, adding 10,000 colorful insects from 50 countries around the world. The 10,000 butterflies and moths, from the scientific order Lepidoptera, were donated last fall by Lybeth Hodges, wife of the late Jeffrey Robb, a UT Law alumnus and professor of government at Texas Woman’s University. The Biodiversity Center’s butterfly collection previously consisted of 20,000 specimens. Hodges, who was married to Robb for 41 years, said Robb was interested in butterflies starting at the age of 9. After graduating with honors from UT, Robb joined the Navy, and he and Hodges spent the 1980s in the Philippines and Japan, where Robb collected many butterflies. “He used to keep a map and put pins on it to keep up with where he’d traveled, but it got too dangerous to be around our

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kids because it had so many pins on it,” Hodges said. “He was really in the jungle. He had leeches get on him, and he’d run into wild animals. It was kind of scary, but he was certainly dedicated.” The Robb collection added butterflies that would be harder to obtain today because of habitat destruc-

tion and stricter worldwide collection laws, said Alex Wild, the UT Entomology Collection curator. “Donations like the Robb collection go a long way to (make) sense of what butterfly species are, where they live and how they’re changing in response to the changes we’re bringing in the world,”

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Wild said. Wild said butterflies with date and location labels allow scientists to analyze trends based on where butterflies are located over time, allowing them to predict the effects of climate change. Over the past two years, volunteers BIODIVERSITY

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The newly expanded Student Activity Center patio opened this semester for students after five years of planning. The patio is divided into four sections, three of which are new wheelchair-accessible decks. There are now 230 seats and a hammock area.

Natural ambiance is really nice, and I think we need more of it here at UT.” NICK EASTWOOD

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“Our main goal in building the patio was to expand the living and sitting space of the SAC,” said Mulu Ferede, executive director of University Unions. “The SAC is one of the most occupied buildings at the University on a daily basis.” While the patio provides added study space, it is also a common area for students to relax during breaks between classes, Ferede said. Ferede said the planning committee was mindful in choosing features that would accommodate student needs. “We have expanded the Wi-Fi connection to reach all areas of the patio,” Ferede said. “We also installed 30 charging docks for students’ use.” The expansion of the patio also included a fountain that does more

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than provide a peaceful atmosphere, Ferede said. “The water feature repurposes rainwater, which is key to the University’s sustainability efforts,” Ferede said. Nick Eastwood, international relations and global studies freshman, spent time at the patio during a meeting last week. He said there should be more student spaces like the patio around campus. “The outdoor patio provides an excellent way to get some fresh air after being confined indoors all day,” East-

wood said. “Natural ambiance is really nice, and I think we need more of it here at UT.” Psychology freshman Trevor Liu found the patio to be an effective study location. “Sometimes the SAC is overcrowded and there’s very limited seating,” Liu said. “The patio gives students a lot more room to sit, and the water feature makes it a very peaceful study spot.” To further accommodate students, University Unions worked with University Health Services to install a sunscreen

dispenser at the patio. “The sunscreen dispensers seem like a really mindful decision,” Liu said. “Even though it’s a little thing, installing the dispensers shows how the patio was built with students’ comfort in mind.” Ferede said the patio is open to students during normal SAC building hours and has multiple security cameras and external lights to ensure the safety of students during the later hours of the night. “This patio is for students,” Ferede said. “It’s one thing we can do to make UT feel more like home.”

corporate communication freshman Shawntale Woodland said. “If the new location is too far away, the liberal arts college is saying they’re giving the space to something that matters more, and it doesn’t matter if the Native American students have to travel a little bit farther.” Public relations sophomore CJ Eaton echoed this sentiment. “It’s the marginalization of people,” Eaton said of the program’s possible move. “It’s taking away identity in a public white institution where they don’t really have anything to represent themselves. People have already … acclimated to the office being there, so why does it need to be moved at all?” When asked about the relocation, Diehl did not comment on whether the program would move to Bellmont Hall. “We are currently exploring other options,” Diehl said.

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on illegal immigrants rather than hurricane relief.” O’Rourke said he didn’t regret his vote because he was unsure if the money would make its way to the places where it was needed. Saurabh Sharma, the chairman of UT’s chapter of the Young Conservatives of Texas, and Andrew Herrera, the president of University Democrats, both followed the debate. Biochemistry senior Sharma said Cruz did a good job making the case for himself over his opponent.

milana todua | the daily texan staff Psychology Augustine Martinez, left, and Pablo Montes, a Mexican American and Latin Studies doctoral student, study together at the Native American and Indigenous Studies office Tuesday afternoon. The Native American and Indigenous Studies office is set to relocate to the stadium later this year.

“He did an especially good job highlighting differences on energy policy, tax policy and healthcare policy, showing how O’Rourke’s policies would raise costs and taxes for each and every Texas voter,” Sharma said. Government junior Herrera said he welcomed O’Rourke’s criticisms of Cruz’s policy record. “He is hitting Ted Cruz exactly where he needs to,” Herrera said. “It’s obvious that Cruz holds positions on immigration, healthcare and free speech that are not only out-of-step with Texans, but that are harsh, and cruel, and representative of the wrong direction for this state and country.”

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and staffers at the Entomology Collection have been in the process of documenting the collection in an online catalog, which was a “huge undertaking,” Wild said. “If we were to catalog our entire collection, it would take about $5 million at minimum wage salary to have people go through the collection,” Wild said. “Imagine being a librarian for 2 million books, and you’re just one librarian.” The butterflies are in the process of being organized by species with the help of around 20 students and outside volunteers who teach themselves how to recognize certain species. “My favorite part about volunteering has been my ability to learn about

a specific species and what the different butterflies look like,” chemistry sophomore Alexia Martin said. “For entomology students, this collection is important because they are able to have an actual physical butterfly that represents a bunch of different species that they wouldn’t normally be able to go see.” Hodges said after Robb passed unexpectedly, she was unsure what to do with the 17,000 butterflies they owned but decided to donate some of them to UT because it seemed like the right thing to do. “That’s the one thing I really knew he wanted,” Hodges said. “He wanted something that could preserve them. He didn’t want them to go to some other schools we’d talked about because they didn’t have the facilities or enthusiasm that UT seems to have.”

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can’t get eye exams from UHS, there are still ways to receive eye care within walking distance of UT. There are two optometry practices within half a mile of campus. Sonja Franklin, an optometrist at Modern Eyes Optical in West Campus, said students usually come in when they are worried about their eyesight, but a prescription is not always the solution. “Just because someone is having an eye issue doesn’t necessarily mean they need a prescription,” Franklin said. “They could have an eye alignment issue, there could be a medical issue, so all of those components are a part of a comprehensive eye exam.” For students such as Rodriguez, getting regular eye exams over the summer

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is the easiest option. She said she started getting regular eye exams after starting college because she knows they can help her when her glasses prescription starts to fail. “It doesn’t get any better,” Rodriguez said. “Every year your eyesight gets worse and worse. There come times when I know my prescription is not working anymore, I get headaches and just can’t see anymore, so that’s why I take them every year.” Franklin said while annual exams are recommended, students should visit an optometrist any time they notice something wrong with their eyes. “If you notice any type of change in your vision, you don’t want to ignore that, any type of pain with contact lens wear you don’t want to ignore that as well,” Franklin said. “We can treat most things, but sometimes people let things go too far and we have fewer options available.”

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Sexual assault victim speaks up after YCT protests Pro-Kavanaugh demonstration prompts discussion about sexual assault. By Libby Cohen @LibbyCohen211

he Young Conservatives of Texas (YCT) pro-Kavanaugh demonstration on Tuesday, Oct. 2 gave victims of sexual assault, such as journalism senior Sarah Remelius, motivation to voice their own experiences. “I wanted to let them know that what they were doing was causing people like myself, who have been sexually assaulted, to relive,” Remelius said. Remelius was sexually assaulted in spring 2018, and did not consider herself an advocate for survivors before the protest. A table with five students holding signs encouraging students to “change (their) mind” created an emotional environment which motivated a change in conversation from the justice appointment to the rhetoric of sexual assault on campus. “It was never something that I had said out loud, that I had been sexually assaulted,” Remelius said. She compared her sexual assault to that of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser, because of limited

witnesses and evidence. After opening up in the middle of the crowd, Remelius’s remarks were lost in the chaotic banter from both sides. “There were so many women and men that walked away crying, and (UT) didn’t do anything for them,” Remelius said. The email following the demonstration, Remelius said, felt like rhetoric with no action. Dr. Leonard N. Moore, Vice President for Diversity and Community Engagement, addressed the day’s events in regard to sexual assault victims on campus in the email. “As a university that has taken great strides to address issues of sexual assault, we realize that more work needs to be done and we want all students to be supported regardless of background or experience,” Moore wrote. Other students, such as chemical engineering senior Hassan Ahmad thought the University’s statement sounded diplomatic. “We will do something on our own to make sure survivors feel safe and feel validated,” Ahmad said.

hannah simon | the daily texan staff Sarah Remelius, a senior in journalism, stands in front of the steps where the Young Conservatives of Texas advocated for Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination. Sarah stood alongside many other students and spoke out against YCT.

Ahmad stood on the opposite side of the YCT protest and thought about his ex-girlfriend, friends, and peers who were also sexual assault victims. “I want to make sure these survivors feel like there is a community here on campus who are standing here hand-in-hand,” Ahmad said. With little support from UT and Student Government, Ahmad said he wants to create a support group to remind them there is a community supporting survivors like Remelius. Ahmad posted a photo of the

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eddie gaspar | the daily texan staff The Austin Fire Department closes the trail at Lady Bird Lake because of possible hazardous conditions. The City of Austin has warned drivers to stay off the road, if possible.

Heavy rain causes over 200 road, waterway closures in Central Texas areas west of Austin, including in Kingsland, Fredericksburg and Marble Falls. David Maidment, a civil engineering Gov. Greg Abbott issued a professor at UT, said the floodstate disaster declaration Tuesing in these areas had not been day evening for Travis County this high for decades. and 17 other counties because “We don’t have as much of of heavy rainfall, which also a serious flooding situation in caused several roads and all central Austin (compared to Austin waterways to close. west of Austin),” Maidment Barton Springs Pool, said. “While people still the Barton Creek greenneed to stay alert, condibelt, Lady Bird Lake and tions are much more staparts of Lake Austin and ble here. But people near the Colorado River were If you don’t have to be the flooding need to imall closed by the Austin mediately shelter in place outside and driving Fire Department due to stay inside.” dangerous conditions. The in Austin, do not drive andWhile Austin only exclosure began at noon on — not only for the rest perienced 1 to 2 inches of Tuesday and is effective of the day but over the rain on Tuesday, Yura said for 48 hours. Austin drivers should still “These conditions have next several days.” use extreme caution while created high and swift wadriving or avoid driving P A U L Y U R A ters, which combined with METEOROLOGIST altogether because of debris, have made recredangerous roads. ational, commercial and “If you don’t have to be navigational use of all wateroutside and driving in Austin, be caution especially across the ways including all creeks within do not drive — not only for the Austin area … because of how the City of Austin unsafe,” interrest of the day but over the next saturated the ground is,” Yura im AFD Chief Thomas Dodds several days,” Yura said. “If you said. “At this point, 1 to 3 inchsaid in a statement. can postpone your travel plans, es of rain could cause signifiAccording to ATX Floods, postpone them. Stay off the more than 200 low water cant problems across much of roads as best you can because the area.” crossings throughout CenMore than 10 inches of rain there are going to be a lot of tral Texas had closed on flooded roads.” also flooded the Llano River near Tuesday. Paul Yura, warning

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coordination meteorologist with the National Weather Service, said although the most serious rainfall is happening west of Austin, the increased rainfall in central Austin is still causing low water crossings to flood. “Even though the biggest threat is still over those areas out there by Llano and Fredericksburg, there still needs to

protest on Facebook. “To the survivors who saw this today, to the survivors who felt vulnerable, to the survivors who choose to stay silent because of events like these, to you, #Ibelieveyou,” Ahmad wrote. The post received 923 likes and 202 shares. While YCT chairman Saurabh Sharma said, “The vast majority of YCT believes sexual assault is a heinous crime,” this should not limit conversation from continuing on campus. “He is a part of our public disourse,” Sharma said.

“And as this is a public university, protests happen here.” While Remelius agrees UT should address the issue of high sexual assault rates, she insists the University should take measures to provide a safe space for survivors. “It’s important for people to share their stories especially because I know there are so many people who wouldn’t feel comfortable doing that, since there is such a large population of students on campus who have been sexually assaulted,” Remelius said.

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Embrace natural living with herbal supplements By Arushi Mathavan Columnist

You’re sick — it’s the common cold, a bad headache, indigestion or some other inconvenience. Without any official cure, your best bet is to get rest, maybe take some symptom-relieving medicine and wait it out. However, there are complementary and alternative options for students to recover. Herbal supplements are produced from plants. Using plants was historically the traditional healing routine, as plants provide many advantages for the human body. Students can improve their general well-being by using natural herbal supplements, such as peppermint or basil, in conjunction with conventional medicine. Either by purchasing herbs or raising long-term botanical plants, students can use herbal supplements to support their bodies during both acute illnesses and daily living. Mark Blumenthal is the founder and executive director of the international nonprofit American Botanical Council, as well as the editor-in-chief of peer-reviewed journal HerbalGram. He has

studied herbs for nearly 50 years, and he believes that there are significant benefits to consuming herbs. “Twenty-five to 50 percent of modern drugs are either directly or indirectly derived from plants, so plants are our best chemical factory,” Blumenthal said. “Most medicinal plants are relatively safe and gentle acting.” Blumenthal suggests anise, fennel, ginger, turmeric, aloe vera and other herbs for consumption because of their anti-inflammatory, digestion-promoting and healing effects. For college students with high levels of stress, he believes that herbs such as rhodiola and saffron could prove beneficial given their anti-stress and antidepressant properties. Despite the many benefits of herbal medicine, many students rely on common, conventional forms of medicine. Elmer Yang, a Plan II and business honors freshman, was sick with a fever and a bad cough for two straight weeks this semester. “I mostly relied on Mucinex and other (conventional) forms of medicine to get better,” Yang said. “I somewhat regret not using herbs and other natural sources because it might have sped

up the process.” Yang, like many UT students, used the most common forms of treatment available. However, students can go a step further in promoting their health by supplementing their diet with natural herbs. Students can purchase a variety of these beneficial herbs at local grocery stores near campus or at the UT Farmstand on the second and fourth Wednesday of each month. Alternatively, students can communally grow the herbs in small potted plants in their dorms or at UT Microfarms. At UT Microfarm, to grow the aforementioned herbs, students can rent a 4-foot by 4-foot plot of land for $10 a semester or a 4-foot by 8-foot plot for $15 a semester. UT students face a variety of acute illnesses throughout the year, and herbal supplements could prove helpful to reducing symptoms and promoting overall student health. Whether by purchasing or planting their own botanicals, students can be more proactive about naturally improving their health with these herbs. It’s time for students to take control of their own health in an accessible and natural way. Mathavan is a business honors freshman from McAllen.

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Bell, the UHS consumer education and outreach coordinator, said that in the past year UHS has run 7,202 tests for chlamydia and gonorrhea. This figure is less than 16 percent of the number of tests that should have been run if students were being tested Electrical engineering sophomore Carlos Borja as frequently as they need to at UHS. went to University Health Services to get tested for Students who have riskier sexual behaviors or sexually transmitted infections his first year at UT. who need multiple locations swabbed for STI tests Before getting tested, he spoke with nurses who incould end up paying high costs like Borja had to. formed him that if his parents paid for medical inPaying $250 per sexual partner for over four sexual surance, they may be able to find out he was getting partners each year could leave students responsible tested. While UHS is committed to protecting stufor upwards of a thousand dollars annually if they dents’ privacy, the primary cardholder of the insurchose to protect their privaance plan — which is often a cy and not use insurance. student’s parents — is able For many students, payto see at least where tests ing $100+ upfront for all were run and how much STI testing in order to enthey cost. sure privacy from their parWhen he was tested, BorThe UHS leadership ents is not feasible and can ja had not yet come out to should reevaluate their cause them to leave UHS his parents about his sexualwithout getting tested. Borja ity and also wanted his parprices; students deserve knew how important it was ents to be unaware he was easier access to student to get tested, so he went to sexually active. Students are the Austin Center for Health permitted to stay on their resources ...” Empowerment for free testparents’ insurance plan uning subsidized by the City of til 26 years of age, so many Austin. He had to travel to university students, includEast Austin instead of using the clinic up the road ing Borja, are financially dependent on their parents from his dorm. Students should be able to use the when it comes to their health. resources the University provides for them. Instead of using insurance, Borja wanted to pay At The University of Virginia, it costs $18 to get the cost himself to prevent the risk of his parents tested for either chlamydia or gonorrhea, or $32 to finding out. It would have cost him upwards of $250 get tested for both, whereas at UT there is a single to get tested for everything he needed to. Borja did combined charge of $56 for both. At The Universinot get tested at UHS that day. ty of Wisconsin-Madison, STI testing is free to all According to the Spring 2017 National College students when ordered by a university-employed Health Assessment II University of Texas at Austin physician. Executive Summary, over 62.9 percent of students UHS should follow these universities’ practices were sexually active in the past year, and 10.5 perand offer free STI testing services, or at least offer cent of UT students had four or more sexual parta reduced price to students who choose not to use ners in the past year. People should get tested every their medical insurance. The UHS leadership should time they have a new sexual partner. This is the only reevaluate their prices; students deserve easier acway to ensure you are free of any STIs that could cess to student resources and the medical tests severely harm your health. they need. Based on this data, if every sexually active stuDighe is a Plan II and neuroscience sophomore dent used UHS, UHS would have had to run at least from Houston. 46,523 tests annually for every type of STI. Sherry

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number of pamphlets and presentations available on the website, there is an abundance of help available to people who don’t consider writing their strong suit. Appointments with peer consultants are easy to make. STEM students who If you’ve ever found your way to UT’s meme do not take the time to learn how to write well are page, you’ve probably seen it. It is a picture of setting themselves up for a future disadvantage. SpongeBob’s Squidward straining to blow bubThey should take advantage of the easy access bles. Squidward is labeled “STEM majors” and UWC provides. the bubble “3-page essay.” The stereotype that “If you can write, you can think,” Tarrant STEM — science, technology, engineering and mathematics — majors can’t write is common said. “Depending on the discipline, your ability to write well affects your ability to get funding. because STEM students aren’t often required to People (need to) underreach writing or literary stand advances and unproficiency. However, our derstand reservations, University is distinguishso there’s no fear around ing itself through one imnew things in technical portant service: the Unifields and there’s supversity Writing Center. Just because you’re a port when there should Even though it may not STEM major doesn’t be. You have to be seem like it, STEM majors in particular can benefit mean you can’t be a good good at communicating for that.” from the wide variety of writer or utilize the UniAccording to Tarrant, UWC services. some of the most comFor example, computversity Writing Center.” mon types of documents er science students only peer consultants discuss have to take a combined and edit with students nine hours of rhetoric, who come in are health professions applications, literature and writing classes within to the towhich include medical school applications. These tal 120 hours they need to graduate. Oftentimes imbalances like this can lead to the illusion that are students applying to be doctors, one of the most important modern STEM professions. They writing isn’t important to STEM majors — it is. won’t get in if they can’t articulate their thoughts Just because you’re a STEM major doesn’t on paper. They won’t get in if they can’t write. mean you can’t be a good writer or utilize the Pursuing the ability to write well shouldn’t UWC. Rachel Tarrant, the UWC administrative be something that only liberal arts majors do. assistant and a STEM graduate, was a UWC peer It’s a life skill that will be necessary beyond consultant as an undergrad. Peer consultants your years as a STEM student. STEM majors are students working at the Center who have may not be taking rhetoric classes regularbeen trained to help other students develop ly or reading up on how to build the perfect their writing skills. thesis statement, but they can still take full “I thought I was a pretty good writer coming advantage of all the UWC has to offer. Writout of high school.” Tarrant said.“I changed my ing is a critical tool for people of all profesmind on that later. The Writing Center pays sions, and the UWC can help students reach really well among student jobs, so I was like, writing proficiency. ‘Okay, I guess I’ll try this.’ I learned a lot.” Caldwell is a Latin American studies and Whether it’s one-on-one writing appointjournalism sophomore from College Station. ments with peer consultants or the large

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ALBUM REVIEW | ‘WANDERER’

Cat Power returns from hiatus with new album By Liliana Hall @lilihallllllll

After six years of radio silence from singer-songwriter Chan Marshall, better known by her stage name Cat Power, she explores the different realms of sounds and moods through her 10th studio album Wanderer. Originally discovered by Sonic Youth’s Steve Shelley and Two Dollar Guitar’s Tim Foljahn, Marshall went on to record her first two albums, Dear Sir and Myra Lee, with the two in 1995 and 1996, respectively. In 1996, she signed with Matador Records and quickly released a third album with Shelley and Foljahn entitled What Would the Community Think. The constant evolution of Marshall’s sound earned her acclaim for her ability to pin down just about

anything. From soul-influenced “The Greatest” in 2006 to her many cover tracks, “The Covers Record” and “Jukebox,” and the self-incorporated electronica tracks featured in her 2012 album Sun that landed her a number 10 spot on the Billboard 200. Marshall has played with a mix of punk, folk, soul and blues over the course of her career and brilliantly revisits all of these styles in her new album. Wanderer demonstrates the line between Marshall’s childhood growing up in the South and her life as a musician in adulthood with an eccentric mix-use of guitar, piano and vocals. The opening title track, “Wanderer,” highlights the raspy tone heard in Marshall’s early works such as “The Greatest.” A transition featured with hand-slapped percussion, “In Your Face” addresses the political landscape,

diverging from Marshall’s own personal narrative. Marshall usually avoids getting political in her music, but she finds a way to naturally express her distaste for the divisive culture found in the current political climate. Marshall doesn’t stop there. She also includes guest harmonies by Lana Del Rey on the album. Their collaboration “Woman” is truly the peak of the album due to the luminous confidence the two women share on the track. With Del Rey providing backup vocals, the chorus is simply “I’m a woman” but takes the album to another place — one of power and influence. The two have a way of stopping time through their harmonizing vocals that perfectly blend, almost limiting listeners’ ability to tell the difference between the two. Mid-album, Marshall has a cover of Rihanna’s 2012 hit “Stay,”

which is entirely recognizable but places pauses in dissimilar places. She organizes the lyrics out of order from the original track and underplays the cover by utilizing classic harmonization of a piano. “Black” is arguably the most riveting track on the album, as the intro fades in with rambling words as if Marshall is contemplating the story as she iterates its meaning. “Black” is the story of a dead friend, who once revived Marshall with an “ice bath and a slap.” It is a repetitive short story that could conclude the album with its synchronizing tale. As the album concludes, “Nothing Really Matters” presents the disconnect between what matters to her and what matters to everyone else, utilizing a unique combination of a tambourine and a guitar fluttering in the background. Wanderer combines some of the

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best sounds brought to life by Cat Power over the years, incorporating short personal narratives and harmonies mirrored by famous counterparts such as Lana Del Rey and Rihanna. It is a beautifully transparent album delving into the many pleasures that have helped establish Marshall’s musicality over the years.

CITY

Micro-home business hopes to optimize housing in cities By Landry Allred @l2ndry

No one would have thought living in a dumpster for a year would spark a housing business — no one but Jeff Wilson. Wilson founded Kasita — a micro-home business based in Austin that manufactures small, intelligent homes called Kasitas for unlikely spaces in the urban community. Now, Kasita continues to improve the homes and extend its outreach. Wilson, co-founder of Kasita, recognized the potential for smaller homes after living in a 33-square-foot dumpster for a year. While teaching at Huston-Tillotson University, Wilson sold his possessions and moved into a campus dumpster in early February 2014. “It was a grand experiment in testing the question of, ‘How much do you really need to be happy?’” Wilson said. “I wanted to take something that was both very small and also a symbol of waste, which happened to be a dumpster.” The business launched in

April 2015, three months following Wilson’s departure from his dumpster. Today, Kasita has 27 employees divided among the technology and production teams. According to Kasita’s website, the building process for a single home takes at least seven weeks, with prices starting at $150,000. Wilson said Kasitas are unique because they are built as an immersive experience rather than a home. “Kasita’s the only micro-home out there and one of the only homes in the world where it has technology integrated in it from the very beginning,” Wilson said. “You walk in the door, and everything just works.” While this wave of micro-living spans across the country, some including architectural engineering professor Atila Novoselac, disagree with its functionality. He said when factoring in air quality, smaller spaces are problematic because energy emissions from appliances have a larger impact in smaller houses than larger houses. “You’re solving some

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a small home,” Wilson said. “We’re building out a larger network to where one day — say five years from now — when you leave UT, you can be living in a Kasita right off the UT campus.”

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FOOTBALL

Gone bowling, earlier than usual Bowl eligibility transforms from milestone to afterthought. By Ross Burkhart @ross_burkhart

year ago, Texas fans were on the edge of their seats week after week as the season winded down, hoping the Longhorns could reach some sort of bowl game. Last Saturday, they achieved bowl eligibility with a 23-17 win over Baylor — in mid-October. Head coach Tom Herman’s tenure at Texas began with an incredibly rocky start last season, finishing with just six wins during the regular season, the same number this year’s Longhorn squad has reached through just seven games. “I remember last year in the locker room in Morgantown, West Virginia, and watching guys like (Poona) Ford and (Naashon) Hughes and those guys, dancing around like we’d won the Super Bowl saying, ‘We’re going Bowling! We’re going Bowling! We’re going Bowling! And also thinking, oh, we got some work to do,’” Herman said after the Baylor game. Herman continued, “But no, I don’t think they even know in there. I don’t think that not going to a bowl game even crossed anybody’s mind when the season started.”

katie bauer | the daily texan file The Texas Longhorns pose with their trophy after winning the 2017 Texas Bowl over the Missouri Tigers, 33-16. Bowl eligibility, a feat that wasn’t achieved until mid-November last season, has already been attained with five games left to spare.

It’s certainly a heavy improvement for a program that hasn’t started this well through the first seven games since 2009. With a first-place spot in the Big 12 and a No. 7 ranking in the AP Top 25 Poll, this season’s Longhorn team could very well make a run at a conference championship and at least be in the discussion for the College Football Playoff. Even with a great deal of success through the mid-

way point of the season, Texas players have signaled they aren’t getting complacent with the amount of wins they’ve achieved. “It’s good to be bowl eligible, but I didn’t see a trophy given out there that said we were Big 12 champions or bowl champions,” linebacker Gary Johnson said after the win over Baylor. “So, it’s just one of those things where you’ve just got to suck it in for a while and get ready

for your next opponent because somebody else is coming in to try to beat you.” Texas’ win streak looked to be in jeopardy late in the first quarter against Baylor as quarterback Sam Ehlinger exited the game with an AC sprain that sidelined him for the remainder of the game. Shane Buechele then entered to take his place, which was enough to lead the Longhorns into bowl eligibility.

According to Buechele, the most impressive aspect of this team, and one of its biggest differences compared to previous Texas teams, is the bond they’ve built. “We’ve matured a lot, and we know what we can do,” Buechele said. “We never want to look to the future, but just being 6–1 with the opportunity to have a bye week going on … it’s a great feeling.”

CROSS COUNTRY

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Floréal flourishes in changing culture of cross country program

Smart addresses Jones’ status, life without Bamba By Robert Larkin @r_larkintexas

Before the Longhorns make their public debut for the 2018–19 season at the Texas Tip-Off on Wednesday night, head coach Shaka Smart addressed the media with updates on Andrew Jones’ injury status, what areas Texas needs to improve in and which players have emerged as leaders during offseason practice. Here’s what Smart had to say at his press conference:

Injury update

emmanuel briseno | the daily texan file Texas long distance runner Destiny Collins leads the pack during a race in Austin. Collins is one of the veteran members of the cross country team, easing Edrick Floréal’s transition to head coach.

By Brooke Nevins @brooke_nevins

After Texas separated from the head coach of its premier track & field and cross country program last February, Edrick Floréal knew he had to build the trust of many Longhorn athletes. Floréal was brought in as a replacement for former head coach Mario Sategna, who was fired in February after athletic director Chris Del Conte said in a statement that the program needed to “head in a new direction.” Since his hiring, Floréal has faced the challenge of connecting with his new team. “The relationship between the athletes has to be built on trust,” Floréal said during his introductory press conference in June. “I gotta get involved with study, I gotta get involved with their personal life, I gotta get involved with their majors. I gotta make sure they understand that I care about them more than just running around the track.” Floréal, a former Olympian in triple and long jump, entered as the new head coach after spending the last 12 years building world-class track programs at Stanford and Kentucky. Now, Floréal sees coaching at Texas as a challenge and an opportunity to transform the program into a

national powerhouse. “This is a place that I can continue to build a legacy. This is a place that has all the required elements for success,” Floréal said. “It should be at the top.” Joining Floréal to coach the cross country teams are women’s coach PattiSue Plumer and men’s coach Pete Watson, who are both experienced runners and have also coached at major programs around the country. Destiny Collins, who has led the women’s team in every cross country meet so far, said they have welcomed Plumer with open arms. “There’s definitely been some changes, but all of us are just trying to trust the process and have an open mindset about it and believe in what we’re doing,” Collins said. “It’s been a really smooth transition, and she’s kind of like a mom to us, so it’s been really nice to have her here.” When a new staff arrives, the older members of the team often have to make the most adjustments to other coaching styles. Senior Alex Rogers trained for three years under the guidance of former Texas cross country coach Brad Herbster, who left the program for a position at Pittsburgh earlier this fall. “The difference between me and a lot of the other guys is that I had a very close relationship with Coach Herbster,” Rogers said. “He was like a father

figure to me.” However, upon discovering that Watson was selected to be the new men’s coach, Rogers knew the team was left in great hands, saying that the coach is “exactly what we needed.” “Coach Watson compliments us all very well. He knows when to push our buttons and when to back off, and he’s come in with this mindset and this attitude that has helped us,” Rogers said. “I feel better about my training … and now I need to do the things that I have control of and execute better for Texas.” During the team’s first two invitationals this season, both teams enjoyed early success under the new coaching staff but then had less-than-satisfactory performances at the Nuttycombe Wisconsin Invitational last month, as the women and men finished 23rd and 22nd overall, respectively. In regard to the men’s team, Rogers said even though training has increased drastically, the Longhorns have been stuck in a rut. He believes the team has the physical capacity to compete with anybody, but they must develop the mentality to “start something new” in order to achieve the level of success the Longhorns are used to. “We’re better than what paper says,” Rogers said. “We’re going to change a lot of things, and we are going to make big splashes in big places.”

Combo guard Andrew Jones has spent the majority of the past few months fighting his way back onto the court. After being diagnosed with leukemia less than a year ago, Jones defied odds by returning to practice in late September. But Jones’ journey suffered a setback two weeks ago when he injured his toe during practice on Oct. 4. While Texas originally gave the junior guard an indefinite timeline to return — usually an ominous sign — Smart seemed optimistic about Jones making his way back soon. “He doesn’t let any obstacle take away from his enthusiasm for working to grow and get better,” Smart said. “We don’t have an exact timetable, but hopefully in the next few weeks, we’ll be able to get him back on the court.” Smart also added that senior guard Kerwin Roach is “full go” after undergoing surgery on a torn meniscus earlier this offseason.

No Mo Bamba

With the departure of Mo Bamba to the NBA, the Longhorns enter this season lacking a dominant player anchoring the post. “You have to be more sound as a team with your help defense, as opposed to counting on one guy in Mo to erase mistakes,” Smart said. The absence will also carry over to the offensive end of the floor. According to Smart, Texas will have to rely even more on its guards in improving its scoring output after ranking 204th in points per game last season. “We want to continue to elevate our guards,” Smart said. “If you look at our conference, the teams that end up at, or near, the top have really, really good guards. And those guards control the game.”

Texas finds leaders in practice

Three weeks remain before the Longhorns host their first game of the season, but Smart mentioned he’s seen a handful of players take on leadership roles during offseason practice. The fourth-year head coach pointed to Roach, Dylan Osetkowski, Matt Coleman and Elijah Mitrou-Long as players who have stood out to him thus far. While Smart emphasized leadership will be a collective effort, he wants to see Coleman, his starting point guard, undertake a stronger role as the season progresses. “Matt’s still too nice,” Smart said. “He needs to understand that what his teammates need to hear from him is not necessarily always all sugary and nice. It might need to be the opposite of that in certain moments.”

anthony mireles | the daily texan file Head coach Shaka Smart signals from the sideline at the Frank Erwin Center. The fourth-year head coach will have to adjust to his revamped roster.

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NATION

elias huerta | the daily texan staff Trump’s trade restrictions on Syria and Egypt have only made business more difficult for the Arabic Bazaar on Duval street. Zein Al-Jundi, the owner of the Arabic Bazaar, says today, only about 10 percent of the goods sold in her store are from Syria. When she opened full-time in 2001, at least half of the goods in her store were from Syria.

Sanctions affect Arabic Bazaar

Recent trade restrictions prevent store owner from importing products. By Francesca D’Annunzio @ftcdnz

ecentmisanctions against Syria from the Trump administration have not only impacted those living in Syria, but a local Austin store owner as well. Zein Al-Jundi, the owner of the Arabic Bazaar, is originally from Damascus. She moved here in 1985 to attend UT. Her store originally started as a Christmas time pop-up in 1999 at an Arabic music show in

Austin. Since she quickly gained popularity and there was demonstrated demand for the Arabic products she was selling, she started subleasing her property on Duval and 51st Street in 2001 and opened full-time. Since Al-Jundi is from Damascus, the most natural place to continue importing her goods from was Syria. “When I opened, I had at least half of the store from Syria,” Al-Jundi said. “Right now I have probably 10 percent.” Al-Jundi explained that, while it has always been difficult, it is now illegal to import goods directly from Syria. If someone wants goods from Syria, they have to be shipped to another country, like Turkey, and then to the United States. But even that route is not legal. Due to these sanctions, Al-Jundi began shopping for more of her inventory in Turkey, Morocco and Egypt. Her remaining goods from Syria

are from old shipments. However, trade sanctions hurt her business again in a different way in Egypt. “They put you through absolute hell to get anything (from Egypt),” Al-Jundi said. “I’m restricted to importing through just one guy (in Egypt) who is certified to export things (by the United States government).” Since he is the only certified agent and has a monopoly on exporting, prices are higher, making it more difficult for Al-Jundi’s business to thrive. The obstacles do not stop there, however. The government checks shipments multiple times and requires multiple X-ray exams. Sometimes they remove the container from the port and exam it item by item. This makes the process exponentially more expensive, and it takes much longer. “My last shipment was scheduled to take six weeks,” Al-Jundi said. “It took

four months. It’s like vengeance, trying to deter people from doing business with these countries.” Al-Jundi is not the only business owner from the Middle East whose business has been impacted by trade sanctions or restrictions on movement. Haithem El-Zabri, the owner of the Palestine Online Store, is another Austin local who imports his goods from the Middle East. Although the trade sanctions do not affect him the same way they have affected Al-Jundi’s business, he has experienced similar roadblocks. “Getting products from Palestine is sometimes challenging due to the restrictions on movement imposed by the military occupation,” El-Zabri wrote in an email. “Getting the product from the supplier to the post office is usually a challenge when they have to cross multiple military checkpoints, which

are often unpredictable and sometimes closed.” Citrine Ghraowi, a UT alumna from Syria, said luckily, her family’s chocolate business in Corpus Christi was not impacted by the trade sanctions against Syria. “We didn’t do business with anyone in the Middle East, but more so started over and bought similar products based in the US,” Chraowi said. Since her family’s business model was not built on importing specific goods from Syria, they were not hit with the same obstacles that Al-Jundi has been facing. “The only issue was my uncle who is in charge of the chocolate shop in Damascus was on a travel visa,” Ghraowi wrote in a message. “So even though we needed him to manage to chocolate shop here in Texas, he also had to do the same in Syria. Traveling back and forth became difficult and ultimately left us with having to close the store.”

THUNDERPUSSY Q&A

Thunderpussy rocks Austin City Limits with eclectic music style By Tiana Woodard @tianarochon

What do you get when you combine Elvis Presley’s charm, Tina Turner’s flair and Led Zeppelin’s zest? A band called Thunderpussy. Consisting of vocalist Molly Sides, guitarist Whitney Petty, bass guitarist Leah Julius and drummer Ruby Dunphy, Thunderpussy fuses theatrical glamour with the sounds of energetic rock. With an EP, their self-titled full-length album and an ongoing tour, the quartet has had a jampacked year. The Daily Texan had an opportunity to speak with the band following their performance at this year’s Austin City Limits festival. The Daily Texan: It’s your first time at ACL. How has this experience been for you? Molly Sides: People showed up. I was so happy to see that. It’s so hot and humid, and it was early, you know? But the fact that people were standing there in the morning heat, the midday heat, and ready to rage with us, it felt really special and really cool looking out at everybody singing along and screaming. I felt a lot of excitement and enthusiasm for everybody who showed up. Whitney Petty: We haven’t gotten to hang out very much. We’ve been busy, we’ve been

working, running around — we saw some shows last night, but we were so tired. It’s a really cool festival. I didn’t know what to expect. Austin’s just a very good town for music. MS: And food! I’m so ready to eat. DT: What artistic approach do you take to your music, and what influences do you put into your music as well? TP: It’s a little bit of Tina Turner’s wig, a little bit of Elvis’ peanut butter sandwich, a little bit of Prince’s lapels, there’s a little Beyoncé in there, maybe some spandex … We love the glam. We love the glitz. We love to have fun. We love just putting on a show. DT: One of the things that impressed me the most while watching the performance was the way you could have fun and joke with one another in the middle of the performance. What’s your secret behind having such a great relationship? Ruby Dunphy: There’s a lot of sexual tension (Everyone laughs.). MS: You have to feed off of each other’s energy to bring out something more to share with others. We like to go off of, ‘Your vibe attracts your tribe.’ But energy is important, and the way that you release it, spread it, and take it in — it’s really important. We work on it. Some days, it’s hard, but

carlos garcia | the daily texan staff Following Thunderpussy’s ACL performance, The Daily Texan spoke with the band about their artistic approach and goals for the future.

we just have so much fun. You have to share that with people. What do you say, Leah? Leah Julius: We just have fun with it. Honestly, the thing is that we’re having fun. So it’s easy to interact and have fun with each other. It also makes every show special and different for us as well. We may be

playing the same notes, but nothing else about the show is the same. And that’s an exciting part of getting to play live with your friends every night. DT: Do you have any goals? WP: Say it with me now …

WP, RD, LJ and MS (in unison): Total world domination.

LJ: We’ll be working on new music. We’re going to go back in the studio next year, we’re going to make another record, we’re going to hopefully hit new cities. And I’m going to work on my high kicks. DT: Do you have a message for your fans? MS: Forget fear, never give

up, and f---ing go for it. Right now, I feel like fear is just shoved down our throats, and it holds people back. What is it? What does Oprah say, Leah? LJ: “Stay in your track.” RD: If that means loving Thunderpussy, then we love you back.