Ultra Vires Vol 2 Issue 2: 2000 October

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The Student Newspaper of the University of Toronto Faculty of Law

17 October 2000 www.law.utoronto.ca/ultravires

Professor Leaves for Osgoode

U ofT to Get J.D. Degree

Craig Scott seeks cultural fit at York

Opinions divided over whether new degree is forward thinking or a sign of Americanization

BY MELISSA KLUGER After 10 years as a professor of international and human rights Jaw at the University of Toronto, Professor Craig Scott left this summer for Osgoode Hall Law School. "I was ready for a change," Srott explained "and I felt lucky to have an excellent law sc11ooi interested in having me and not having to leave Toronto." He said he will miss many things about U of T including "a great bunch of students." So why did he leave? ''Certainly not the location," Scott mused. Instead, he found Osgcx:x:le a better Mcultural fit," more in keeping with his own goals regarding legal education. Specifically, Scott cited Osgoode's approach to decision-making and human relations as being "diSttnctly different" than at u of T 1'-~~where

he said the contnbubons of -some of

his colleagues were "consistently undervalued and marginalized." More generally, Scott was dissatisfied with the climate at U of T, one he characterized as "perpetual self-celebration". Scott stated that there is a difference between "confident recognition of how good an institution is and over-the-top hype." Scott also expressed concern about the direction the law school was headed, his sense being that i s was "unreflectively drifting towards an Americanization of legal education." Scott warned that he is not alone in dissatisfaction with the school. According to Scott, there could be as many as 10 professors at the Faculty who have had similar experiences, many of whom "would be very attractive hires by other institutions." Scott's departure coincided with the recent increase in faculty salaries to address concerns about recruiting and retaining professors. For Scott, salary was not the issue. "I left U ofT knowing that I would be taking a salary decrease at Osgoode," he said. "Osgoode's offer was more than adequate and, indeed, generous, but below, what is now, the U ofT starting salary." When asked to comment on Scott's departure, Dean Ron Daniels said that Scott's decision "reflected his personal judgment that his professional aspirations would be better served at York University." Scott's departure is seen by many as a loss for the law school. "Craig, like everyone who has left here, will be missed," said Professor Ed Morgan, who also specializes in international law. "Craig's field of public international law is right in the heart of international subject matters we're trying to build up here, I am sad to see him go." Professor Jutta Brunnee, an internationally distinguished expert in international environmental law and policy, •will fill the vacancy created by Professor Scott's departure, • according to Daniels.

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Grand Moot P~rtteip:mts and Organizers (from left to right): Tim Meadowcroft, Lisa Dufrairnont, Madam ]usuce Joan Lax, Andrew Gray, Stephanie Gibson, Dean Ron Daniels, Rita Maxv.ell Mister Justice Michael Moldaver, Misterjustice Louis i.eBel '

Insight

On-Catnpus Interviews: A first...hand account BY BRAD MOORE

On-Campus interviews- think SpeedDating. In an effort at modern-day matchmaking, Orthodox Judaism has introduced the speed date. Would-be daters gather expectantly. They have seven minutes to get to know the current prospective love match before a bell rings and, round-robin style, they begin with another person. When finished, the participants rank each other in the hope of making that blissful love connection. Apparently, it works for some. Coincidence or not, the new on-campus interviews (OCis) are just like that, except they're twenty minutes instead of seven. For those who haven't heard, the Toronto firms, in response to competition from earlyrecruiting American firms, decided that getting involved in the autumn employment orgy

;a l lel!a:1lc•mJght xcep a 1ew top :;tucleDts north of the border th1s year. So they devised this scheme of preliminary interviews, whereby each firm would be able to interview more students, and earlier, to hopefully

get more students thinking about Toronto while allowmg the firms to make more informed choices about who to interview more seriously in November. So what was it like? Well, it's a long story. The process really got started when all the second-year hopefuls cranked out anywhere from one to thirty-five resumes and cover letters each, and then sent them in the general vicinity of Bay Street. Once replies were received and students knew who wanted to interview us, it was time to sign up for the time

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G. B ERKOVITS

The class of 2001 will be the first set of Canadian law students who will have the option of graduating with a Juris Doctor U.O.), the degree earned by American law students, rather than a Bachelor of Laws (LL.B.) ihe key difference between these two degrees ·,s that the J .D is a second degtee - meamng that students must ha\le an undergraduate ~- 'bea<e ~'-'<\'r\'11. \a..,.. 'M:.\\oo\, 'IN\\\\t \.\\e LL.B. ts recognized mternabonaJiy as a first degree. In Europe and Quebec, students earn an LL.B. stratght out of high school. In the rest of Canada, most students have one, 1f not two, degrees behind them when they enter law school; yet the designation has always

been Bachelor of Laws. Assistant Dean Lois Chiang recently wrote a memo in Headnotes outlining the benefits of the Impending replacement of the LL.B. with a new J.D. designation. "Explaimng away the confusion," caused by the LL.B. in an era of "mcreased mobility," she promtsed, would soon be a thmg of the past. But there are those among the students and faculty who worry that the prestigious-sounding Juris Doctor degree will raise its own set of questions. Professor Denise Reaume is among several faculty members who are skeptical of the move. She predicts that the "confusion" that Faculty Council had sought to avoid will be far from over once the change is complete. The LL.B. degree may be a second degree for most students, but the fact remains that it is a first law degree. Students in the LL.M . program, for instance, may end up being perceived as getting more junior degrees than the Juris Doctors. And as for the Amencan market mistaking our LL.B.'s for first degrees, Professor Reaume finds •it hard to believe that employers aren't sophisticated enough to realize that. Canadians will have to explain themselves no matter what the initials are. No matter what, Canadians will have to prove they're as good as Americans and a change of degrees won't make that any easier." She does not deem it "terribly important for our mission to protect" U.S.-bound careerseekers. Ultimately, "just because the


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