Am i knit picking because my invicta watch lookd beat up by Watch Geeks

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Am I knit picking?

Well, I just recieved my 50th and 51's Invicata's (they are delivered to my office)...............the watches run fine, tested all movements and complications................BUT.............the yellow boxes were ratty, both look like they were handled by people that hadnt washed their hands in weeks.....(the yellow felt is dirty and matted and worn), AND niether watch had its usual multilayers of clear shrink wrap on the braclet and watch face, and there was no tissue paper.............I have never complained about any Invicata I have gotten. ( have read about others, and their problems and comments and critisims) Am I knit picking???? Should i just be happy i recieved the watches in a timly fashion and they work? Or is part of the presentation and delivery part of the "Invicta watch buying experience?" (no they werent reserve timepeices) IS this an indication of things to come? what do you think?

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FloridaGary

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I think many of us will understand how you feel. The presentation is part of the experience even when we throw the boxes out. For me, I like to keep the boxes, tags in case I decide to sell the watch in the future. Providing all the original packaging is a nice touch and I prefer to have it in good shape. __________________ Too many watches, not enough time. Rolex, Omega, Chase Durer, Poljot, Seiko, Orient, Invicta, Vostok Europe FloridaGary View Public Profile Send a private message to FloridaGary Send email to FloridaGary Find all posts by FloridaGary Add FloridaGary to Your Contacts #3 Yesterday, 08:13 AM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 251 Real Name: Kevin

Avery

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Sounds as if you may have been shipped a return. Avery View Public Profile Send a private message to Avery Find all posts by Avery Add Avery to Your Contacts #4 Yesterday, 08:14 AM

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I'm with Kevin, sounds like returns. __________________

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I think one way of measuring the quality of packaging and presentation is this: If you bought the watch at a jewelry store, J.C. Penney's, or any other retailer would you accept the product or ask for another one. Whether this is your first purchase or your 101st purchase the expectation when opening the shipping box and 'checking out' your new watch is still there. The last thing I want to feel is like I am getting someone elses rejects. You didn't mention where you purchased the watches but shame on them for shipping it like that. mhbinwc View Public Profile Send a private message to mhbinwc Find all posts by mhbinwc Add mhbinwc to Your Contacts #6 Yesterday, 08:18 AM

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Often times what we see on the otside of the box is a foreshadowing of what lies within. In your case, "You can't tell a book by its cover", luckily did not apply. I would feel fortunate if I were you. As good as a company may be, every employee must take individual

responsibility. All that being said, presentation is part of the overall experience. Enjoy your new watches. Larry for watches only View Public Profile Send a private message to for watches only Find all posts by for watches only Add for watches only to Your Contacts #7 Yesterday, 08:18 AM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wilsonville, Oregon Posts: 329 Real Name: Brad II

OBRADFORD Senior Member Senior Geek

I'd be upset, as well. It seems like just another sign that things just aren't as the really should be with the Invicta organization. Let Invicta know you aren't happy with the inconsistancy of there presentation. I'd be interested to know what they say. OBRADFORD View Public Profile Send a private message to OBRADFORD Find all posts by OBRADFORD Add OBRADFORD to Your Contacts #8 Yesterday, 08:21 AM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,010

MATTNATTI Senior Member Super Geek

It does sound like you were shipped returns. Thankfully the watches are in good working order. I don't think you are nitpicking at all. The watches should come as brand new products not slightly used that is not what you paid for. I have disscused this before about people buying multiples to see if they like and then sending back. I don't throw my boxes

away either and would be slightly disapointed if I would recieve in that condition. Congrats on the new watches and thankfully they work. Enjoy them. __________________ Did you see that? Do they all got hedges like that? Do they? MATTNATTI View Public Profile Send a private message to MATTNATTI Send email to MATTNATTI Find all posts by MATTNATTI Add MATTNATTI to Your Contacts #9 Yesterday, 08:27 AM Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,785

mrblue Senior Member Super Geek

In this regard, I would be upset too. I've received many watches and they are usually in the beautiful black or baby blue reserve boxes ... if it is a non reserve timepiece, 'usually' you risk getting a yellow box. "MOST" of the time, reserve pieces come nicely wrapped in the bette boxes. However, the box should be new and fresh irrespective of this. If you received an old box, this is not knit picking, but a legit complaint ... what watches were they. Perhaps, this knowledge would benefit the responses ? MB mrblue View Public Profile Send a private message to mrblue Find all posts by mrblue Add mrblue to Your Contacts #10 Yesterday, 08:28 AM

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ill say this, if you got two watches that are running fine, and not scratched, dont sweat it. unless you display them in their box, i wouldnt worry about it. i have a few ratty ones, and thugh it annoys me, they go in the closet where i dont see them anyways. so i understand the annoyance it can cause, but in the big picture, not important. now if they were reserve pieces, that would be frustrating __________________

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tkromer Senior Member True WatchGeek

Yes and no. The watch was perfect, that's what matters. However, I think you have some expectation of receiving a brand-new never touched by another customer watch. tkromer View Public Profile Send a private message to tkromer Send email to tkromer Find all posts by tkromer Add tkromer to Your Contacts #12 Yesterday, 08:30 AM

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Sounds like somebody already had the watches and returned them. If the boxes look like that no telling what they did to the watches. watchgolfer View Public Profile Send a private message to watchgolfer Find all posts by watchgolfer Add watchgolfer to Your Contacts #13 Yesterday, 08:31 AM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The "Garden spot of America"; New Jersey Posts: 107 Real Name: Larry

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I purchase all my watches from the "shop", and i understand as a business owner, cost containment, so re-using the watch boxes are prudent, and even reselling , returned watches, (if not defective)...............but ...........your correct, if it were in a store i would have asked fro a newer looking one............i just hate to fell like im splitting hairs, or knit picking............perhaps they could have taken a few extra moments and spruced up the looks to atleast give me the illusion that it was pristine.......(sigh) lwagner328 View Public Profile Send a private message to lwagner328 Send email to lwagner328 Find all posts by lwagner328 Add lwagner328 to Your Contacts #14 Yesterday, 08:44 AM

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I wouldnt worry about if the watches were perfect. You probably got a return and the Shop may have inspected it after it came back from whoever returned it. If that is the case they

may have just found a box to ship it to you. __________________

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Originally Posted by reliefcp I wouldnt worry about if the watches were perfect. You probably got a return and the Shop may have inspected it after it came back from whoever returned it. If that is the case they may have just found a box to ship it to you. I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. I am a customer buying a new watch. I don't want, and would not accept, a return that "may" have been inspected and that was shipped in a box that was "found" somewhere. Maybe if I were buying this from a 'scratch and dent' table it would be ok, but I would know that it is not fresh. mhbinwc View Public Profile Send a private message to mhbinwc Find all posts by mhbinwc Add mhbinwc to Your Contacts #16 Yesterday, 09:03 AM

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i'm with Adam. BE HAPPY you got both watches in good running order and enjoy them. chances are ya put the boxes away anyway... i can see wanting pristine boxes as i also save all my boxes just in case i sell them, i want to have all original papers,box etc... but let's face it, when buying a watch, if it ships in anothe rbox nobody cares so long as they got a fair price... you can always post thread asking for yellow boxes and i'm sure you'll have 20 people in a matter of 10 minutes that will send you a yellow box in a heartbeat... __________________

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The concern I have with that type of presentation is it makes you wonder if those watches were shipped to another customer and then back to ShopNBC and then to you. It has happened to me as well. I don't think you are knit picking, but I don't know if it will ever get any better. Enjoy your watches. bkacher1063 View Public Profile Send a private message to bkacher1063

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You say you have 50 plus boxes. At this point, does it really matter. If a watch were to be packaged in a wood box then yes, you have every right to be upset. But Invicta, we all know that the yellow clam shell box is standard. Wera the watch and put the yellow shell in a tote! andrea View Public Profile Send a private message to andrea Find all posts by andrea Add andrea to Your Contacts #19 Yesterday, 09:10 AM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NYC Burbs Posts: 773 Real Name: Ian

MessalineApghar Senior Member Veteran Geek

I feel that getting a piece via internet or catalog, rather then in-person in brick & Mortar shops, this is an inherant issue and occassional "distressed" packaging is to be expected. as long as the product is good, and it is NOT being displayed in the packaging, i would be happy with it. if it IS going to be displayed in the package, I would seek a replacement package either by exchanging thru shop or requesting a replacement box from Invicta. __________________ If you wanna run cool, yes, if you wanna run cool, you've got to run on heavy heavy fuel Dire Straits MessalineApghar View Public Profile Send a private message to MessalineApghar Send email to MessalineApghar Find all posts by MessalineApghar Add MessalineApghar to Your Contacts #20 Yesterday, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBully i'm with Adam. BE HAPPY you got both watches in good running order and enjoy them. chances are ya put the boxes away anyway... i can see wanting pristine boxes as i also save all my boxes just in case i sell them, i want to have all original papers,box etc... but let's face it, when buying a watch, if it ships in anothe rbox nobody cares so long as they got a fair price... you can always post thread asking for yellow boxes and i'm sure you'll have 20 people in a matter of 10 minutes that will send you a yellow box in a heartbeat... Not a bad Idea at all, Im sure there are plenty of people with extra boxs they do not need. BadMax View Public Profile Send a private message to BadMax Find all posts by BadMax Add BadMax to Your Contacts #21 Yesterday, 09:15 AM

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this is rough if you plan to give as a gift. gk. streekingeek View Public Profile Send a private message to streekingeek Find all posts by streekingeek Add streekingeek to Your Contacts #22 Yesterday, 09:24 AM

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I am not sure from which dealer you purchased your watch, but it was obviously a return. If I were purchasing a watch that was no longer widely available at a great price, I probably wouldn't be that surprised about getting a return or upset with soiled packaging, provided

the watch was perfect. Recently, I have started buying watches from Uniquemechanics.com, because I always get fresh merchandise from them. If it is a Reserve piece it is going to come in a Reserve box; if it is a Subaqua, it is going to come in a Subaqua box. This is a great place to buy a gift item, because everything is fresh with fresh tissue paper and all! So what does Uniquemechanics do with their returns? They don't accept any except for on arrival defective watches. These go back to the manufacturer; never back to another customer. Under some circumstances, they will accept a return within 7 days, provided everything is in perfect shape. If it isn't perfect when they get it back, it will be sent back to the cusomer. They are very strict about this, so if you like the 30 days that sites like the SHOP or the WOW offer, go shop with them, but don't be surprised or upset then about getting a return. You can't have it both ways. You can't go to a site that is going to always give you a liberal long term return policy without expecting to get some returns. They can't afford not to recycle those returns. Moreover, the longer they allow for those returns, there is a better chance the packaging is going to get soiled. BabyDoc View Public Profile Send a private message to BabyDoc Find all posts by BabyDoc Add BabyDoc to Your Contacts #23 Yesterday, 09:29 AM

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I sympathize with your concern. However, buying an item sight unseen, is always risky. We assume that risk when we order from a place online, or by phone. Yes, I believe we can expect to have something that is pristine and untouched, especially if we buy face to face from a local vendor. But in this day and time that isn't likely. If we receive an item that works and performs as expected, then we can be happy. If the packaging is less than perfect, but the contents are ok, no issue. If it's not a Reserve Piece, then we can assume that it is not collectable, but for wear or as a gift.

We have to think ahead. We need to specify by phone or email before purchasing, if the item is a gift or collectable. So, wear it in good health, and throw that box in the closet. Be Well!! __________________

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I have more yellow boxes than i can shake a stick at, i put my watches in my display cases.............but that wasnt the point, I guess im just happy they workand the watches them selves look new............. lwagner328 View Public Profile Send a private message to lwagner328

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I don't think you're knit picking at all. This is one of my pet peeves.... There is a semi-local jewelry store that is an AD for several decent brands. But, every time I find a watch there I want to buy, they cannot find the original box, or the papers, etc. I have passed on many great deals because of this. The packaging is important, and when you get a brand new watch that looks like someone pulled it out of their trunk after changing the oil, it ruins part of the experience. That is something I LOVE about Renato! I have never received any Renato that wasn't perfectly wrapped, all protective materials in place, and the box well packed. It just adds to the "new watch" experience. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,029

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Originally Posted by bkacher1063 The concern I have with that type of presentation is it makes you wonder if those watches were shipped to another customer and then back to ShopNBC and then to you. It has happened to me as well. I don't think you are knit picking, but I don't know if it will ever get any better. Enjoy your watches. question on this post...if the watches WERE shipped to someone else, then returned, and then shipped to you... what's the big deal so long as it's in new shape and working. what's the fascination some people have about needing to receive a watch that nobody else handled. so long as the watch is in good shape, what's the problem. (i'm not adressing

necessarily the Op, but this poster and the like that feel this way)..........i hear it all the time, "if i buy new then i expect new, not a watch that someone else handled..." the stock person handled it, the assembler handled it, what's the difference if i do just to look at it and return it... dont get me wrong, i nto sayin i'd tolerate a defective piece or dirty piece, but if it was touched or handled, who cares so long as it runs,works, and in good shape... i got news for ya.... chances are....Those Nikes on your feet rightnow were tried on by someone else b4 you bought them... which means you dont mind havin your feet in something that other peoples stinky feet were in but you no way will tolerate a watch that someone touched...? __________________

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I agree that you should call Invicta and the shop and tell them your experience... __________________

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What!!!! as some are saying be happy that the Watch is in perfect condition and find a better box somewere else ???? Realy My Watch View Public Profile Send a private message to My Watch Send email to My Watch Find all posts by My Watch Add My Watch to Your Contacts #29 Yesterday, 10:20 AM

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I Like The Presentation Of What I Buy Especially In A Watch...But On the Other Side Of The Coin If They Save Money And Part Of That Is Pasted On To Me...Well? boaters View Public Profile Send a private message to boaters Find all posts by boaters Add boaters to Your Contacts #30 Yesterday, 10:33 AM

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No not at all. It leads to the overall experience of getting a new watch. I guess though we are at the the point where if you receive an undamaged and properly functioning time piece, it is a plus. rayfan View Public Profile Send a private message to rayfan Find all posts by rayfan Add rayfan to Your Contacts #31 Yesterday, 10:48 AM

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If the watch is perfect, I'd move right past the wrapping and slap that puppy on my wrist and wear a big smile! Start enjoying your timepiece, life is short, don't sweat the small stuff. MamboKing View Public Profile Send a private message to MamboKing Find all posts by MamboKing Add MamboKing to Your Contacts #32 Yesterday, 11:08 AM

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At this point, I wouldn't care as long as the watches work. But, selling something as new in that condition just shows a lack of respect for the customer especially when money is hard to come by these days. TM Maker View Public Profile Send a private message to TM Maker Find all posts by TM Maker Add TM Maker to Your Contacts #33 Yesterday, 11:14 AM

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With all the problems that people apparently have been experiencing, I would be happy that the watches are in good shape and count yourself fortunate. __________________ Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength. And love your neighbor as your self. Have a great day fellow Geeks! Lunerdustbunnies View Public Profile Send a private message to Lunerdustbunnies Find all posts by Lunerdustbunnies Add Lunerdustbunnies to Your Contacts #34 Yesterday, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mhbinwc I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. I am a customer buying a new watch. I don't want, and would not accept, a return that "may" have been inspected and that was shipped in a box that was "found" somewhere. Maybe if I were buying this from a 'scratch and dent' table it would be ok, but I would know that it is not fresh.

I couldn't agree more, This is not an INVICTA problem this is a SHOPNBC problem and I am paying the money they are asking for the product and I expect a BN watch in a BN containing...PERIOD. Not a return, with a crap box that is dirty, or whatever. SHOPNBC is just cutting corners, and they don't care, as long as they get your Coin. WatchGeek4Life View Public Profile Send a private message to WatchGeek4Life Find all posts by WatchGeek4Life Add WatchGeek4Life to Your Contacts #35 Yesterday, 11:48 AM

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[quote=mhbinwc;1722397]I think one way of measuring the quality of packaging and presentation is this: If you bought the watch at a jewelry store, J.C. Penney's, or any other retailer would you accept the product or ask for another one. I'm with you on this one! __________________ "The problem with an argument is that it usually interrupts a good discussion" G.K.Chesterton jade330i View Public Profile Send a private message to jade330i Send email to jade330i Find all posts by jade330i Add jade330i to Your Contacts #36 Yesterday, 11:49 AM

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You are not nitpicking at all. You bought a new watch and you paid a new watch price and you deserve to get a new watch. For those that are willing to accept anything sent to them that works and accept it are ... well I dont want to get scolded so I wont say how foolish those are. X-James View Public Profile Send a private message to X-James Find all posts by X-James Add X-James to Your Contacts #37 Yesterday, 12:05 PM

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I feel your pain! I got my reserve Pro Diver from the SR a few weeks ago in a beat up box. I was hesitant to keep it but I didn't buy the watch for the box. The bottom line was that the watch was beautiful and I kept it. I pictured my yellow box coming out of a large bin that held thousands of yellow clamshells all sent in by watch owners for repair that didn't read the fine print.. DPM View Public Profile Send a private message to DPM Find all posts by DPM Add DPM to Your Contacts #38 Yesterday, 12:08 PM

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You were sent a returned watch. Bummer. polarisman View Public Profile Send a private message to polarisman Find all posts by polarisman Add polarisman to Your Contacts #39

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I wonder how many of those who refuse to accept a return have ever returned a watch they didn't like. Not a defective watch, just one that didn't "sing" to them when they opened the box. Or someone who bought several of the same J-number in different colors and then decided which one(s) they want to keep. If they have returned a watch under these conditions, they have little right to expect that they will get a pristine watch every time they order one. What do these people expect Shop to do with a watch that someone returned within the 30 days because it "didn't sing" to them? Sell them as "used" and take a loss because the original purchaser changed his/her mind? Some people cite the example of buying a watch from Penneys or from a local jeweler. That isn't a fair comparison, because in the brick-and-mortar store you have a chance to look at the watch before you take it home. I don't believe many local stores or chain stores will let you keep the watch for a month and then decide to return it because you don't like it. I'm not saying that getting clean packaging isn't important, just that it is one of the chances you take when you buy something you saw on television that you can return for reasons other than defects. A lot of mail order/Internet vendors charge a re-stocking fee for returns. Shop doesn't. Maybe the should -- that would help cover the cost of inspecting returns and "re-shelving" the watch for the next customer. kdh1949 View Public Profile Send a private message to kdh1949 Send email to kdh1949 Find all posts by kdh1949 Add kdh1949 to Your Contacts #40 Yesterday, 12:17 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tempe, suburb of Phoenix Posts: 19,434

wave3214 Senior Member True WatchGeek

I personally wouldnt be bothered by dirty boxes BUT having said that I don't think your

being uneasonable at all. You've inspected the timepieces and Im sure because of the condition of the box that you went over them with a fine toothed comb. Presentation is very important. You work hard for your money and deserve a product that is delivered to you as perfect as is possible. Would I send it back,,,I wouldnt but I would maybe send somebody a nasty gram (lol) __________________

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I don't think it unreasonable what-so-ever to expect CLEAN INNER BOXES!! __________________

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CHUCK WAGON Senior Member Veteran Geek

I think you're nit picking. I keep my watches in a case anyway. I keep the boxes for re-sale. Doubtful its Invictas fault. Could happen during shipping... CHUCK WAGON View Public Profile Send a private message to CHUCK WAGON Find all posts by CHUCK WAGON Add CHUCK WAGON to Your Contacts #43 Yesterday, 12:24 PM Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Citrus Heights, CA Posts: 1,391 Real Name: Gary

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Well, you're right in that the presentation is part of the experience. It's a kick getting a new toy and sitting down to unveil it. But after that's done, and down the road when you're wearing a perfect watch, you won't even remember what the box looked like. __________________ Bullwinkle: "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!" gman66

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lwagner328 Senior Member Senior Geek

no it didnt happen during shipping, becasue the inside of the boxes were ratty, not the out side, and it dosent explain the complete lack of plastic wrapping on the watch straps or on the front or back of the crystals........... when you buy a watch fromn SHOPNBC, are they shipped from a warehouse of the "shop" or shipped by/from Invicta? (after they receive the order through Shopnbc?) lwagner328 View Public Profile Send a private message to lwagner328 Send email to lwagner328 Find all posts by lwagner328 Add lwagner328 to Your Contacts #45 Yesterday, 12:29 PM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wilsonville, Oregon Posts: 329 Real Name: Brad II

OBRADFORD Senior Member Senior Geek

It's not just about the box.........................

[quote=lwagner328;1722378]Well, I just recieved my 50th and 51's Invicata's (they are delivered to my office)...............the watches run fine, tested all movements and complications................BUT.............the yellow boxes were ratty, both look like they were handled by people that hadnt washed their hands in weeks.....(the yellow felt is dirty and matted and worn), AND niether watch had its usual multilayers of clear shrink wrap on the braclet and watch face, and there was no tissue paper............. This would bother me more than the box being yellow and "ratty".

This means they haven't been packed correctly or, which I believe is probably the case, they are used, returned watches that they are selling as new. Quality control is something that has deteriorated so much over my lifetime and it's because we as consumers are accepting it. It's a little like bad behivior in children, these days. It's accepted more by parents and society so there's more of it.

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Originally Posted by lwagner328 Well, I just recieved my 50th and 51's Invicata's (they are delivered to my office)...............the watches run fine, tested all movements and complications................BUT.............the yellow boxes were ratty, both look like they were handled by people that hadnt washed their hands in weeks.....(the yellow felt is dirty and matted and worn), AND niether watch had its usual multilayers of clear shrink wrap on the braclet and watch face, and there was no tissue paper.............I have never complained about any Invicata I have gotten. ( have read about others, and their problems and comments and critisims) Am I knit picking???? Should i just be happy i recieved the watches in a timly fashion and they work? Or is part of the presentation and delivery part of the "Invicta watch buying experience?" (no they werent reserve timepeices) IS this an indication of things to come? what do you think?

Your absolutely right it should come in a nice clean box with everything perfect! corey.630 View Public Profile Send a private message to corey.630

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It annoys me when I get Invicta watches sent to me like you did, in working order, but not shrink wrapped, no polishing cloth, ratty box, no plastic even on the crystal, JS once commented on this saying just because the watch is not wrapped in plastic, it could just mean they took it off to inspect it before shipping (it was something like that, may not be his exact wording) but I'm not buying that answer! If it wa up to me, I would send it back! Deb (Cosmo) Cosmo View Public Profile Send a private message to Cosmo Send email to Cosmo Find all posts by Cosmo Add Cosmo to Your Contacts #48 Yesterday, 12:45 PM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,029

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a clean box should be given but folks....a returned watch that is in excellent condition is simply a new watch that was sent back. you dont like it, then get people to... - STOP buying 4 MOP dial watches in an effort to pick the best one that "pops" to them. - get them to decide on a color without ordering each one then sending the rest back - get them to look at the website, and the presentation in an effort to decide IF they like it or not. Then perhaps we wont have sooo many returns. you want the shop to eat every single return just cuz i ordered a blue, a black, a red, and a geeen, then sent 3 of them back... why should they lose $ cuz i was indecisive. if i walked into Macys and bought a new Bulova, abd then 2 days later returned it...you damn well know it's going right back into the display case for sale. so why do you cry foul when shop sells the same?

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As I posted earlier, this would only bother me on a reserve timepiece. Send that to me in a yellow dirty box and I would be upset. I believe Adam picked up on that. Did I miss the post telling us what the watch is ? .. If you aren't happy and bought it from the shop, send a return, simple .. Why bother getting all upset ? Best anyway to buy new releases and reserve timepieces from Invicta. I've found this to be the best approach w/them. No 100 percent guarantees on anthing in this lifetime .. I find that breathing in each day resolves lots of issues .. MB mrblue View Public Profile Send a private message to mrblue Find all posts by mrblue Add mrblue to Your Contacts #50 Yesterday, 12:53 PM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The "Garden spot of America"; New Jersey Posts: 107 Real Name: Larry

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if i got a return (it was a sea spider/orange) and it works thats fine......i jsut would have thought they'd still re-wrap it, put in a polishing cloth, and make sure the inside of box didnt look like it was handled by a grease monkey.......I didnt mean to strike such a nerve.....with

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Originally Posted by BigBully a clean box should be given but folks....a returned watch that is in excellent condition is simply a new watch that was sent back. you dont like it, then get people to... - STOP buying 4 MOP dial watches in an effort to pick the best one that "pops" to them. - get them to decide on a color without ordering each one then sending the rest back - get them to look at the website, and the presentation in an effort to decide IF they like it or not. Then perhaps we wont have sooo many returns. you want the shop to eat every single return just cuz i ordered a blue, a black, a red, and a geeen, then sent 3 of them back... why should they lose $ cuz i was indecisive. if i walked into Macys and bought a new Bulova, abd then 2 days later returned it...you damn well know it's going right back into the display case for sale. so why do you cry foul when shop sells the same? Because when you go into Macy's you have the option of walking out with the watch or not walking out with the watch after you've inspected it! You don't get that option when purchasing something on TV!! if it looks like it has been worn (when bought from TV) you have to pay for return shipping & wait for a refund on your purchase! It's not the same at all!! Deb (Cosmo) Cosmo View Public Profile Send a private message to Cosmo Send email to Cosmo Find all posts by Cosmo Add Cosmo to Your Contacts #54 Yesterday, 01:05 PM

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Because when you go into Macy's you have the option of walking out with the watch or not walking out with the watch after you've inspected it! You don't get that option when purchasing something on TV!! if it looks like it has been worn (when bought from TV) you have to pay for return shipping & wait for a refund on your purchase! It's not the same at all!! Deb (Cosmo) sure it is. it's exactly the same...YOU have the choice whether to shop online on TV or go to Macy's and pay what they get... in the end the choice is OURS !!!!!!!!! __________________

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Larry, At least you got two watches that appear to be unblemished and functioning properly. The last two watch orders I received were total disasters. The first one was all wrapped up like it should have been but when I picked it up the bracelet fell off. The second one was opened to find the correct info on the order form but when I opened the box I found the wrong watch. Both went back. Just when one would hope CS and QC would be getting better, I end up getting two bummers in a row (these have been my first two problems in several years) . Just Sayin' Rich richretired View Public Profile Send a private message to richretired Find all posts by richretired Add richretired to Your Contacts

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I don't think your knit picking. R __________________

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alwaystenpastten Senior Member Master WatchGeek

I would liken this to the hospital sending you home a beautiful and healthy baby, in soiled diapers that they could have changed. It would not bother me one whit, unless I was intending to give the timepiece as a gift. __________________ Keep your crowns screwed down, my friends.

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i agree if you were buying used but your not . they should be packaged in new boxes also eric rastafadda1953 View Public Profile Send a private message to rastafadda1953 Send email to rastafadda1953 Find all posts by rastafadda1953 Add rastafadda1953 to Your Contacts #60 Yesterday, 04:58 PM

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I haven't read all the posts, so this may have been covered. If so, I apologize. You are not nit picking. If by some chance you want to sell the watches in the future, a big selling point is having the original packaging in good condition. jb182 View Public Profile Send a private message to jb182 Find all posts by jb182 Add jb182 to Your Contacts #61 Yesterday, 05:02 PM

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I, too, expect to get pieces in fully new state. I have gotten a few lately that are iffy. I did get a Renalto, second hand, that was fully wrapped. If it comes from Shop I think it should be perfect. __________________ Gunther Up the Irons, Down the Smirny Gunther View Public Profile Send a private message to Gunther Find all posts by Gunther Add Gunther to Your Contacts #62 Yesterday, 05:04 PM

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If you purchased a new watch, it should arrive brand new, wrapped in all its glory. Definitely not nit picking or expecting too much.

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I have to agree with Tim P - it is definitely part of the experience, and as the box will likely end up stacked in the closet, It is part of "new", you pay good money for this ...not a percentage discount for "take your chance on a return" ..even if it is cosmetically and functionally "just as new". Also, while I am not a fan of bling and diamonds on a watch (Just not for me) I did purchase a Renato Mostro, one of few Renatos w/o diamonds - it was the MOST impressive packaging and presentation I have ever seen! It is for that reason alone, I would consider another Renato, I thought if they put that much into the packaging; the "attention to quality" of the timepiece must be that much more incredible ...not to mention the detail & beauty you can visually see they put into the watch. Darkseadiver View Public Profile Send a private message to Darkseadiver

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How about they charge us a restocking fee " 15% and spend that fee on a new pretty damdest ugly yellow box any watch company ever used IMO for ya all that cannot except a handled watch that is a return. That is what a restocking fee is for. Personally I like the reduced prices and if the piece is perfect I will take the savings everytime. Pay someone $20 per hr to do it right maybe 3 an hour that adds up. I never ever had a knife I made returned if it where customer designed by the client I would have to get something if I thought no one would buy it because it was such a weird looking design I could not talk them out of. But I usually do. If I want unopened or repackaged I buy Renato (might be lucky). Or go to a brick store to get that fuzzy feeling some mentioned If I had to go to a store to get my watches I would not have so many. The net is why I have a collection of a doezen.plus. Some thoughts on the subject __________________

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You were sent returns without a doubt. You should expect and get new, unspoiled product wrapped and clean and working. You are not knitpicking. __________________

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Originally Posted by richretired Larry, At least you got two watches that appear to be unblemished and functioning properly. The last two watch orders I received were total disasters. The first one was all wrapped up like it should have been but when I picked it up the bracelet fell off. The second one was opened to find the correct info on the order form but when I opened the box I found the wrong watch. Both went back. Just when one would hope CS and QC would be getting better, I end up getting two bummers in a row (these have been my first two problems in several years) .

Just Sayin' Rich Rich - I hear you loud and clear. I purchased a new watch as a gift from my kids for Father's Day last week. It looked like a return and it was defective so I sent it back and ordered another one. That one arrived today and is already boxed up and ready to ship back tomorrow...know why? It's again another return The Shop sent me and it was clearly a defective watch. Two watches returned in as many weeks! They got problems man. gdevine View Public Profile Send a private message to gdevine Find all posts by gdevine Add gdevine to Your Contacts #68 Yesterday, 09:05 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Juneau, Alaska Posts: 830 Real Name: Cal

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No, you are not knit-picking. When you buy a watch new in the box, the watch, the wrapping and the box are all supposed to be new. I sell a product that when one is returned for any reason it is totally re-sealed and repackaged with new material. battleshipduke View Public Profile Send a private message to battleshipduke Send email to battleshipduke Find all posts by battleshipduke Add battleshipduke to Your Contacts #69 Yesterday, 09:12 PM

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Throw the boxes in the trash ware the watch and forget about it... Azel88 View Public Profile Send a private message to Azel88 Find all posts by Azel88 Add Azel88 to Your Contacts #70 Yesterday, 09:20 PM

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My 360 came with a light wieght foam wraper around it with tape holding it togeather. Luckly the watch was ok. reserveman View Public Profile Send a private message to reserveman Send email to reserveman Find all posts by reserveman Add reserveman to Your Contacts #71 Yesterday, 09:46 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,480

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Originally Posted by lwagner328 if i got a return (it was a sea spider/orange) and it works thats fine......i jsut would have thought they'd still re-wrap it, put in a polishing cloth, and make sure the inside of box didnt look like it was handled by a grease monkey.......I didnt mean to strike such a nerve.....with all my fellow geeks......I really wasnt sure if i was jsut nit-picking, or had a ligit, complaint If you mention anything that can be seen as negative, even when you express it as well as you did, it will "Strike a nerve" with some folks here... Don't sweat that. Your post was fine and... I don't feel you are being knit-picky at all... The interesting thing to me is that you said it was an orange Sea Spider. Those just started selling. With them being brand new, I'm surprised SNBC has even had one returned and reshipped already... The problem is that there is not uniformity with the way Invicta watches arrive. Some arrive with wrapping around the clasp, some with wrapping around the bracelet, some with it around the whole watch and many with just the crystal and caseback covered. So, when SNBC's warehouse gets a return, and it is not wrapped, they don't know if it was supposed to be wrapped. They can't charge someone returning a watch with no protective wrapping on it if they can't PROVE it arrived that way to the customer. Same issue with the mylar tag... Some higher end watches don't come with them attached and some lower end watches do have them. SNBC puts that paper in the watch box that states you have to have the tag attached to be able to return the watch, but 90% of the Invicta watches do not have the tags... So, as much as I hate defending the inspection crew for the returns to SNBC, they'd have a hard time proving that a watch went to the customer in ANY specific condition/wrapping... Even if the OP was to return this watch because of the condition of the watch box, SNBC would have to accept the return because they know that they send this dirty crud out to customers. So, they have to believe that the customer did not dirty the box. All of this can be solved if SNBC sends out only watches that have wrapping done in a uniform manner, for all Invicta watches. And, they'd also have to send out only watches in clean and the correct color boxes. That will never happen...

Also... SNBC is not the only one that this happens with. WOW ships even the biggest Invicta watches in the tiny 1/2 box, in yellow. Reserve or not. Sometimes they send out the right box, but more often than not, they send out the tiny yellow box regardless of the watch inside.

Other internet sites do the same... In the "good old days" SNBC had a Scratch & Dent section of the auction on the web site. I purchased a few watches that were perfect but SNBC sold them as Scratch & Dents because there was not outter box or the box was greasy/dirty, or no paperwork inside. I loved when they did that!!

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Originally Posted by reserveman My 360 came with a light wieght foam wraper around it with tape holding it togeather. Luckly the watch was ok. One of my nicer Invicta watches arrived that way also. I thought it was a return and the customer tried to protect it, but then another geek told me that her watch arrived the same way. So, I'm passing on to YOU now that some of the watches are being shipped with that foam taped around them. You should be ok and it does not mean it is a return... Magster View Public Profile Send a private message to Magster Find all posts by Magster Add Magster to Your Contacts #72 Today, 06:16 AM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,029

BigBully

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so tell me folks as i said earlier. if nobody wants a watch that was touched or returned... what happens if.... i order a SAS 7750. i get it home, decide it too big and i send it back after unwrapping it and trying it on... -the watch works,no damage, it in perfect condition as i receive itwhat is SHOP supposed to do with that $1000 watch??? send it back to Invicta? discount it? consider it used and not sell it? they should take a loss on the product?

that would drive the prices up and we'd be paying $500 for pro divers... they should simply rewrap it in plastic and resell it..... why would someone mind receiving that watch ? __________________

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If you spend your dollars on something BRAND NEW then what you should get is something BRAND NEW. Not a return that they can't even

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I guess i have been lucky all the 40 some watches that i have gotten in the past 2 years have arrivied in excellent shape ........ hemicuda View Public Profile Send a private message to hemicuda Send email to hemicuda Find all posts by hemicuda Add hemicuda to Your Contacts #75 Today, 03:37 PM

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To all the folks that insist on getting a brand new, untouched, unhandled, watch... PLEASE tell me your answer to my post # 72 __________________

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when i received my SAS Combat one of the chrono hands werent working. i sent it back, and boguth a replacement after they refunded me. the replacement watch i received did not have any wrapping on it, it had no polish cloth in it, it didnt even have the plastic cover on the dial...i knew it was a return...BUT...it was in as new condition, unharmed and worked fine.... why would i NOT keep it. __________________

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If you got a good deal on them don't sweat it. You have 48 other boxes you can put them in right! Enjoy them. If I get one like you described, I would pull out my magnifying glass and examine each one. If it looks perfect then I am happy. __________________

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A dirty box and no plastic wrap on the bracelet--yeah--sounds like a returned watch. Its not unreasonable for you to be disappointed in the presentation. surferman

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No,I don't think so They should re-rap,box & make it look like new before they re-send a return back out. Total BS in my book BRUCER View Public Profile Send a private message to BRUCER Send email to BRUCER Find all posts by BRUCER Add BRUCER to Your Contacts #80 Today, 05:31 PM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa FLorida & Storrs Ct Posts: 1,150

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I do not think you are nit picking. Not packaged correctly, and a shabby box does not a "new" watch make. __________________ You mean what time is it now? tampa8 View Public Profile Send a private message to tampa8 Find all posts by tampa8 Add tampa8 to Your Contacts #81 Today, 06:02 PM Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sand Springs, OK. Posts: 181

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My thought is " If you can't get something as simple as a box right why should I trust you with something as complicated as a watch." ZRXBILL View Public Profile Send a private message to ZRXBILL Find all posts by ZRXBILL Add ZRXBILL to Your Contacts #82 Today, 08:06 PM

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When I received my Reserve Akula a few weeks back from Shop I was surprised to see it was in the same Yellow box that my Grand Diver came in. I thought it should have come in the box marked Reserve on the outside but it didn't. I opened it up and everything was as it should have been, the watch was totally wrapped and had the microfiber cloth with it. After unwrapping it I looked the watch over carefully and you could tell it was brand new, the strap was perfect with no bend marks in it showing that it had been worn and it even had that brand new smell when you opened the presentation case. Castlk View Public Profile Send a private message to Castlk Find all posts by Castlk Add Castlk to Your Contacts #83 Today, 08:11 PM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,029

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To all the folks that insist on getting a brand new, untouched, unhandled, watch... PLEASE tell me your answer to my post # 72 ok how come nobody that talked about "no way i want a returned watch" can answer this question for me...... yes, i'm calling those out for an answer...! (3rd request) __________________

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Originally Posted by SeaVulture I sympathize with your concern. However, buying an item sight unseen, is always risky. We assume that risk when we order from a place online, or by phone. Yes, I believe we can expect to have something that is pristine and untouched, especially if we buy face to face from a local vendor. But in this day and time that isn't likely. If we receive an item that works and performs as expected, then we can be happy. If the packaging is less than perfect, but the contents are ok, no issue. If it's not a Reserve Piece, then we can assume that it is not collectable, but for wear or as a gift. We have to think ahead. We need to specify by phone or email before purchasing, if the item is a gift or collectable.

So, wear it in good health, and throw that box in the closet. Be Well!! If we expect less than perfect, that's what we'll get. No one should assume any risks that are not advertised. If any part of my order is not as expected, I call and ask for it to be taken care of. When companies need to lower costs, they shape up. When they don't, they get lazy. Don't let them get lazy! Demand what was promised. __________________ kps2007 "We all want more time, don't we?" kps2007 View Public Profile Send a private message to kps2007 Find all posts by kps2007 Add kps2007 to Your Contacts #85 Today, 08:54 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,567

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Originally Posted by OBRADFORD I'd be upset, as well. It seems like just another sign that things just aren't as the really should be with the Invicta organization. Let Invicta know you aren't happy with the inconsistancy of there presentation. I'd be interested to know what they say.

I know what I'm gong to say here is 'just a speck of dust in the wind', but your statement that, "things just aren't as they really should be with the Invicta organization", is THE reason why I no longer even consider purchasing an Invicta watch. FYI, I've been collecting watches for ten years and, as such, I think I have some perspective into their 'business model.' IMHO, (for what that's worth to anyone in here), Invicta has been steadily 'slip-sliding' downhill into oblivion! The "SWISS vs. SWISS MADE" and "D-D" Debacles are just the tip of the iceberg of what we (can) see and know about how things are going for them. Frankly, I WANT Invicta to

succeed because, with some 3 dozen of their watches, I have quite an investment in their 'reputation.' _______________________________ ⌘ _______________________________ BOTTOM LINE? I don't want people 'in-the-know' to cringe when I mention "Invicta", ...

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... but, more and more, that seems to be EXACTLY what happens! ... _______________________________ ⌘ _______________________________ I can't understand why 'Eyal, et al', aren't concerned by this, but it's obvious they aren't! Therefore, the ONLY thing I can surmise is that they continually focus on future sales and could care less about 'the past'; i.e., anything they sold 'yesterday!' Of course, my belief that, for Invicta, "today's sales trump tomorrow's customer support responsibilities" seems to account for some of the horror stories we read in here ... ... as well as a bunch of other sites across the web! _______________________________ ⌘ _______________________________ As I said, I hope I'm wrong, but, every day, my suspicions seem to be increasingly validated ... ... and, again, that is why I no longer consider purchasing an Invicta! __________________

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