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Anybody Heard From A Reporter? - August 10, 2009, 03:27 AM I was wondering if anybody else here has been contacted by a reporter regarding Jim S. (Corona Gorda)? I was contacted, first by email, then by phone from a reporter interested in the history of this, now "famous," watch guru. The reporter is looking for as many people as he can, to show his readers what a true scumbag this guy is. He writes for a national rag. If any of you would like to talk to this reporter, just let me know. I guess it's Jim's turn. What comes around goes around. Bruce
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August 10, 2009, 03:56 AM Oh, this will be an interesting story to read or piece to watch when it comes out.
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August 10, 2009, 04:23 AM Quote: Originally Posted by moki
Oh, this will be an interesting story to read or piece to watch when it comes out.
No kidding. I can't wait.
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August 10, 2009, 04:34 AM <Mr. Burns>Excellent...</> "...Realize this is a practiced art, the more you do it and get a feel for it the better your jerky will get. Thatâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;s why Carlito is so kick ass with his cigars. He feels it. It is in his fiber in his being.. If you didnâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;t realize it, me and Carlito have allot in common in this respect. We are one with each other when it comes to understanding each other in this respect." - TJM
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August 10, 2009, 04:58 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Mustang
<Mr. Burns>Excellent...</>
Sounds like it's gonna be hard cheese for Scumbag Skelton!
One thing I can't stand, it's people groveling.
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August 10, 2009, 05:31 AM Now THIS is an article worth paying to read. If you find out when and where it is published, please do let us know.
All of you atheists and agnostics out there are going to h-e-double-toothpicks.
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August 10, 2009, 05:54 AM Who are you guys kidding? Yes, we'd like to think everyone would get quoted precisely and the story of this shitbag would come out accurately. We'd like to think all the people that watch his show and the producers of his show would see the article and subsequently act accordingly. We'd like to think, in some odd way, justice would finally be served. I bet it is more likely, in some weird way, CG will end up coming out of this better than before. It won't get reported accurately, he'll spin it his way (remember, we won't get to respond, the audience will hear his side) and he'll create some victim type of deal where his ratings will soar. He may even find a way to bring a civil suit for slander against some of the people saying bad things about him.
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August 10, 2009, 05:58 AM Quote: Originally Posted by mcraney
Who are you guys kidding? Yes, we'd like to think everyone would get quoted precisely and the story of this shitbag would come out accurately. We'd like to think all the people that watch his show and the producers of his show would see the article and subsequently act accordingly. We'd like to think, in some odd way, justice would finally be served. I bet it is more likely, in some weird way, CG will end up coming out of this better than before. It won't get reported accurately, he'll spin it his way (remember, we won't get to respond, the audience will hear his side) and he'll create some victim type of deal where his ratings will soar. He may even find a way to bring a civil suit for slander against some of the people saying bad things about him.
Well, look at Mr f**king Rainbow this morning! Give us this, please? Pretty please? (you are probably right)
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August 10, 2009, 06:02 AM Quote: Originally Posted by mcraney
Who are you guys kidding? Yes, we'd like to think everyone would get quoted precisely and the story of this shitbag would come out accurately. We'd like to think all the people that watch his show and the producers of his show would see the article and subsequently act accordingly. We'd like to think, in some odd way, justice would finally be served. I bet it is more likely, in some weird way, CG will end up coming out of this better than before. It won't get reported accurately, he'll spin it his way (remember, we won't get to respond, the audience will hear his side) and he'll create some victim type of deal where his ratings will soar. He may even find a way to bring a civil suit for slander against some of the people saying bad things about him.
I have sometimes been accused of seeing a "glass half empty" but suddenly, I feel like an optimist! So I guess you're "glass all empty" kind of guy?
All of you atheists and agnostics out there are going to h-e-double-toothpicks.
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August 10, 2009, 06:10 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Max Power
Well, look at Mr f**king Rainbow this morning! Give us this, please? Pretty please? (you are probably right)
Bwaaaaahahahahahahaahah! LMFAO!! "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 10, 2009, 06:42 AM are there any threads on here relating to this guy. My curiosity is way up on his history and what he did. what did he do that was so bad? I swear honey, I wont have to order any more cigars for at least 2 months now!
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August 10, 2009, 07:31 AM O.K. after a little while of searching it appears that all threads that corona gorda posted on have dissappeared. the only ones to come up are the threads about how much of a scumbag he is. it would be nice to read the original threads that caused so much ruckus. I swear honey, I wont have to order any more cigars for at least 2 months now!
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August 10, 2009, 07:33 AM I am neither an optimist or a pessimist. I am a realist. Admittedly, a bit cynical as well. LOL
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Quote: Originally Posted by Unismoker
O.K. after a little while of searching it appears that all threads that corona gorda posted on have dissappeared. the only ones to come up are the threads about how much of a scumbag he is. it would be nice to read the original threads that caused so much ruckus.
Most of what he did was in real life, not on the internet. He fleeced people out of rent money, sympathy donations, employment, etc. He is a traveling con man, who takes advantage of others generosity.
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August 10, 2009, 07:39 AM This will get interesting
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August 10, 2009, 07:44 AM Quote: Originally Posted by mcraney
Who are you guys kidding? Yes, we'd like to think everyone would get quoted precisely and the story of this shitbag would come out accurately. We'd like to think all the people that watch his show and the producers of his show would see the article and subsequently act accordingly. We'd like to think, in some odd way, justice would finally be served. I bet it is more likely, in some weird way, CG will end up coming out of this better than before. It won't get reported accurately, he'll spin it his way (remember, we won't get to respond, the audience will hear his side) and he'll create some victim type of deal where his ratings will soar. He may even find a way to bring a civil suit for slander against some of the people saying bad things about him.
You may be right... but we can also hope that this is a journalist hell bent on digging up dirt on the guy, and will spin it as "The dark past of the shiny watch salesman" or some such. I can see the lead in paragraph to the "transition" of the piece now: "Behind the makeup, bright lights, and flashy salesmanship, however, is something a bit more sinister than the great American success story. In his climb to the top of the cut-throat television sales business, the aptly named Mr. Skelton seems to have trampled over several people on his rise to the top, and has left a few skeletons in his closet. Consider, for example, the spurned generosity of his friends who housed him and loaned him money during his tough days. Friends that he has turned his back on, despite being amply able to repay their generosity now with this high profile, high paying job on ShopNBC." (You're probably right).
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August 10, 2009, 07:45 AM
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August 10, 2009, 07:59 AM Do you have verification of the reporters identity? Could be a proxy for him, fishing....
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August 10, 2009, 08:28 AM Quote: Originally Posted by johnd13
I want to drink scotch with JD13........cuz he won't give me "half-empty" glasses.
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August 10, 2009, 09:35 AM OK, didn't need to see the urine.
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August 10, 2009, 09:48 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Capitalist
Do you have verification of the reporters identity? Could be a proxy for him, fishing....
Was it this guy?
All of you atheists and agnostics out there are going to h-e-double-toothpicks.
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August 10, 2009, 09:54 AM Unless some of the people he "fleeced" has filed suit or have hard documented evidence that he borrowed with the intent on paying back he'll just say it's not true or they were gifts from friends helping him out. He will probably say that everyone is jealous of him and he offered when he was able to repay but was rebuked by the few he actually owed. To the watch crowd he appears to be an idol....I don't get it.
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August 10, 2009, 09:59 AM How about this guy?
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August 10, 2009, 09:59 AM Oh how I wish I had the dirt firsthand. Everything I heard from the Portland group was all secondhand, including skipping out on rent, not repaying loans, skipping out on car payments, and outright thievery.
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August 10, 2009, 10:06 AM you guys dont think he was actually superbelly, do you?
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August 10, 2009, 12:11 PM Here ya go. "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 10, 2009, 12:13 PM Und das! "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 10, 2009, 12:16 PM This is great! "The best part about being a ShopNBC host is... the ability to connect with such a large group of people at one time. Our viewership is so expansive that I am able to speak with, educate and befriend millions of people in a single day!" "If I could change one thing about myself, it would be... the nagging feeling that I need to change something about myself!" "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know
where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 10, 2009, 12:27 PM Does anyone even really watch his freaking show? Seriously people watch that crap and buy the stuff he's pushing? Sounds like some sort of scam, once again from this dirtbag. I'd talk to a lawyer before going on the record talking about this $hitstain. ______________________________ ps - please refrain from deleting my post.
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August 10, 2009, 02:35 PM Musk is correct... Be careful, could be fishing... Best Regards...
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August 10, 2009, 02:40 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Unismoker
O.K. after a little while of searching it appears that all threads that corona gorda posted on have dissappeared. the only ones to come up are the threads about how much of a scumbag he is. it would be nice to read the original threads that caused so much ruckus.
Buy Padron Slave a bottle of $200 scotch and a pallet of 858 Sungrown and he can tell you all about it.
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August 10, 2009, 03:27 PM Bruce, tell us what you've been doing with yourself over the many years.
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August 10, 2009, 07:36 PM So Bruce, how did you get picked for this honor? Where did this reporter get your contact info?
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August 10, 2009, 07:51 PM I was just thinking of the same thing, Scott. Sounds awfully "coincidental"..... RIP Waliguy
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August 10, 2009, 08:03 PM Sure does. And how could anyone think Jim is worth spending "investigative" time on?
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August 10, 2009, 08:07 PM And how would they know to reach you specifically when you haven't really been on CF (the only place this was made REALLY public to the best of my knowledge) much recently? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark..... RIP Waliguy
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August 10, 2009, 08:13 PM Me thinks Bruce is being played.
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August 11, 2009, 08:58 AM Some time ago (a couple of years, at least), I found a watch forum where they were discussing Jim and his questionable path to fame. They knew who I was because they had read threads here about Jim. It was really interesting reading all they had to say and, in fact, how much they knew about Jim's dealiings with people here. They sent me a link to a site run by Jim, where I joined and posted some interesting topics regarding the self proclaaimed "watch God." I was very quickly banned from his site and my posts deleted. I really became a thorn in Jim's side as I persisted in joining his site with various pseudonyms. Eventually, I got tired of digging up new I.P. addresses and went on my merry way. The reporter obtained my contact information from Cigar Family. There are plenty of posts with my phone number and email address, which haven't changed for years. Easy enough. This guy is very interested in what happened in Florida, Oregon and Virginia. I don't believe I'm being played. Bruce
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August 11, 2009, 09:03 AM I recall all of that Bruce. What would be the motive in "playing" Bruce anyway. There is more motive in "playing" Jim as he has an audience now. dhoffman1421 at att dot net
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August 11, 2009, 09:04 AM Quote: Originally Posted by SmokeCheck
This is great!
"The best part about being a ShopNBC host is... the ability to connect with such a large group of people at one time. Our viewership is so expansive that I am able to speak with, educate and befriend millions of people in a single day!" "If I could change one thing about myself, it would be... the nagging feeling that I need to change something about myself!"
Translation: "The best part about being a ShopNBC host is... the ability to connect with such a large group of gullible people at one time. Our viewership is so expansive that I am able to speak with, misrepresent myself and try to bilk millions from people in a single day!"
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August 11, 2009, 09:14 AM I'm glad to hear it, Bruce. I just worry about you because I'd hate to see you get on the short side of that asshat a second time. I guess I'm just cynical. Please drop me an email when you get the chance. Dave, you make a very good point. RIP Waliguy
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August 11, 2009, 09:17 AM Bruce, thanks for the details. Your first post made it sound like this contact was out of the blue. Please give us some links to this interesting reading on the other BBs!
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August 11, 2009, 09:22 AM Padron Slave is one of the best folks around. If anyone has ever known a reporter.............it aint that hard to dig up stuff............heck moki aint a reporter and he dug up sandmans panty pics.......... Anyway, i doubt PS is getting played...........i think someone into watches who's a reporter has seen a few of the YouTube videos of Jim Skelton and got curious and dug around a bit............it aint that hard to dig up dirt........ JMHO, and i do hope Jim gets a little embarassment outta the article (if it comes to fruition)..........even if it doesn't affect his job...... Jim is a huge douche-nozzle........and used people across the country ........... it's a shame to me that people like Jan as well as Padron Slave (Two HUGELY generous folks) will think twice about helping out the next guy (who may actually appreciate the help).
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August 11, 2009, 09:23 AM Quote: Originally Posted by SAF
Bruce, thanks for the details. Your first post made it sound like this contact was out of the blue. Please give us some links to this interesting reading on the other BBs!
i remember those links as well.............
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August 11, 2009, 09:25 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JC
Padron Slave is one of the best folks around. If anyone has ever known a reporter.............it aint that hard to dig up stuff............heck moki aint a reporter and he dug up sandmans panty pics.......... Anyway, i doubt PS is getting played...........i think someone into watches who's a reporter has seen a few of the YouTube videos of Jim Skelton and got curious and dug around a bit............it aint that hard to dig up dirt........ JMHO, and i do hope Jim gets a little embarassment outta the article (if it comes to fruition)..........even if it doesn't affect his job...... Jim is a huge douche-nozzle........and used people across the country ........... it's a shame to me that people like Jan as well as Padron Slave (Two HUGELY generous folks) will think twice about helping out the next guy (who may actually appreciate the help).
I could not agree more with this finely worded post above. JC hit the nail exactly on the head. RIP Waliguy
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August 11, 2009, 09:28 AM Indeed.
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August 11, 2009, 12:48 PM Is a reporter from the Minneapolis area (where he lives now). Woiuld be interesting since I live around here.
Curse you Buckaroo!
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August 11, 2009, 12:49 PM I used to really like Mpls/St Paul..... RIP Waliguy
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August 11, 2009, 01:21 PM did you see watchgeek.net? He co-founded the site.
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August 11, 2009, 02:14 PM Well, I was just approved for membership at watchgeeks.com and posted a thread inviting Mr. Skelton to stop on by the Cigar Family. I think he worked out who I was. My thread lasted a few minutes before it was deleted. I now receive this message when I try to post: "You have been banned for the following reason: No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never" LMBFHAO. "NEVER" I love it. That's what he thinks! I guarantee that Jim has very recently read this thread. Bruce
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August 11, 2009, 02:24 PM I think we as a Collective CF group shoud donate to an attorney fund for Bruce to REALLY go after Jim. I would donate a $100 to cause if Bruce would come back and give us updates
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August 11, 2009, 02:28 PM Ron Savage would be cheaper. "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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I have been in touch with the reporter. He has setup an email account for anybody interested in contacting him regarding this topic. His name is Dan and the email address is: theskeltonproject@gmail.com Feel free to send him an email if you have any information you would like to share. I also have a couple of phone numbers for him that I will provide via smoke signal if you prefer to speak to him that way. I know who the reporter works and writes for and I have verified that he is legitimate. Bruce
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August 11, 2009, 02:39 PM Quote: Originally Posted by EzDad
I think we as a Collective CF group shoud donate to an attorney fund for Bruce to REALLY go after Jim. I would donate a $100 to cause if Bruce would come back and give us updates
You know -- ever since I started posting here, in the mid to late 90s, I knew that this place was packed with decent people who would do anything to help another CFer out. I believe EzDad's offer is sincere. I have no doubt about it, and I appreciate the thought, but I'm not as interested in getting my money back or taking Jim to court, as I am in watching him go down in flames for
what he has done to people over the years. Does this place still have the flaming trash can? I think it's about to get filled to the top with one stinkin' Corona Gorda. Bruce
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August 11, 2009, 02:47 PM "The Skelton Project". Does Dan have an empty hard drive? LMAO
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August 11, 2009, 02:53 PM Bruce, I was being sincere. If it's one thing I can't stand is scumbags like Skelton who took/takes advantage of good hearted/natured people, you included. I believe hell holds a special place for those scumbags.
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August 11, 2009, 04:29 PM Great to see Bruce posting & can't wait to see the results.
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August 11, 2009, 05:01 PM I'm just happy to see Bruce posting again... still unfortunate that this is why, but I've got to admit that I'm intrigued.
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August 11, 2009, 05:36 PM Remember when he came back under the username Fate Crush for a while.
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August 11, 2009, 05:45 PM Quote: Originally Posted by lundens
Remember when he came back under the username Fate Crush for a while.
Was that Skelton? "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 11, 2009, 05:51 PM I am also glad to see Bruce posting again. Bruce, I was sincere in asking you to email me. You are around here far too seldom. And this place has a long history of having fine, upstanding people always willing to lend a helping hand. This is one of the main reasons I've stayed here for so long....although admittedly not as long as you. I look forward to updates. Maybe if MSNBC ends up with egg on their face because of that dickwad's reputation catching up with him, they'll drop him. To quote another person (not from this site)...."Fate will come riding in on her steeds of vengance and set things right". RIP Waliguy
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August 11, 2009, 05:51 PM And SC, yes it was. RIP Waliguy
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August 11, 2009, 06:13 PM I guess I missed him getting outted as such. I'll be damned. "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 11, 2009, 06:29 PM Me too, wasn't that the guy with the opus tatoo on his neck.
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August 11, 2009, 06:32 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Seasmoke
Me too, wasn't that the guy with the opus tatoo on his neck.
I think that's Pete "Tatauje" Johnson with the neck tatoo. I think CG had a Celtic Cross.
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Some interesting threads indeed, starting with this intro: Quote: Originally Posted by fatecrush
I just wanted to introduce myself. I have lurked on just about every cigar BB out there for a few years and decided I would just go ahead and register to be able to post here. I'm Tom, and I'm excited to be here amongst so many knowledgable people. I am a HUGE Opus X fan and have learned a great deal from reading postings on this site. BTW: How do I make one of these cool signatures? Would also like to include a pic if that is even possible. TIA!
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August 11, 2009, 06:38 PM Dave, I believe everything went down just before you got here in 00-01. There may not be much left in the archives.
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August 11, 2009, 06:41 PM Quote: Originally Posted by fatecrush
JoH: Until this year I had not registered a handle. I was always content with reading and if you only read, you avoid flames.
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Yup, I was watching here back when people like Marty, Elwoodbob, Lonnie13, Danlee, Deem, Mike374, DannyM, Feex, and other long lost people were just coming aboard here. Hell I even remember RichL when he was RDLsomething or other. Anyway, as I was saying without looking for a fight: When Drew started this room it was for noncigar talk. Yes I agree that religion and politics were always touchy subjects, and it was made clear they were not to be discussed, but really do you think he would have approved more of dick and nipple comments?
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"the dick and nipple" That sounds like the name of a gay pub.
Heh heh heh...sometimes I crack myself up. "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 11, 2009, 06:44 PM Yeah Joel, he was before my time as CG, but I was pretty well informed as to the shit he pulled here, and with Bruce. I just didn't remember anyone calling him out as CG while he was posting as "fatecrush". "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 11, 2009, 06:49 PM I may have to agree with Fa: Superbelly + high end watches= scumbag Skelton
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August 11, 2009, 07:26 PM Quote: Originally Posted by EzDad
I may have to agree with Fa:
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Superbelly + high end watches= scumbag Skelton
This may not be the most technological or scientific methodology, but having reviewed a bunch of Superbelly's posts and comparing them to fatecrush, SB tends to not capitalize his "i" on the vast majority of his posts. Fatecrush did. Don't have any actuall CG posts to compare, but I'd say Superbelly isn't fatecrush. "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - H.S. Thompson
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August 11, 2009, 08:12 PM Quote: Originally Posted by SmokeCheck
This may not be the most technological or scientific methodology, but having reviewed a bunch of Superbelly's posts and comparing them to fatecrush, SB tends to not capitalize his "i" on the vast majority of his posts. Fatecrush did. Don't have any actuall CG posts to compare, but I'd say Superbelly isn't fatecrush.
Dave that really doesn't mean squat. ANYBODY can change their MO.
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August 11, 2009, 11:49 PM Hey all I've not been around here very much but doubt Superbelly is CG. Not his posting style imo...
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August 12, 2009, 03:26 AM Maybe it's Wayne Gretsky?
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August 12, 2009, 03:31 AM Keep us posted, Bruce. This might get very interesting. p.s. please refrain from deleting this post.