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Sales On The TTV Invicta's Subaqua Noma IV Quartz Not So Good?
Possibly for a number of reasons the Invicta Men's Subaqua Noma IV Swiss Chronograph Stainless Steel Watch - J179999 didn't sell too well yesterday IMO. I took the inventory a few hours before it officially aired at midnight and the amounts were: Rosetone=1060 Slivertone=1632 Total= 2692 The present amounts are: Rosetone=603 Slivertone=1082 Total= 1685 Possible reasons why it didn't sell better. 1) Price too high when a 3 hand automatic SAN IV is selling in the low $400 range. 2) Competition from Invicta's Sunday Run. 3) More competition from the up coming ShopNBC's MUST WATCH event. The watch might have sold better then I reported because it was opened for sale a few days before the TTV day of Sunday, so the original amounts could have been higher then what I stated above. __________________
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Price vs. SW200 not going to work for me. Also I really don't care for the marker layout. __________________
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The dots are making me crazy. Add another dot or remove the all, it looks incomplete! __________________
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Originally Posted by yjmebs The dots are making me crazy. Add another dot or remove the all, it looks incomplete!
I agree, it makes the watch look unbalanced, imo, also I do not care
for the hands and the dial pattern, looks fuzzy to me, not a clear and smooth look. That said though to each his own. mrmike29 View Public Profile Send a private message to mrmike29 Find all posts by mrmike29 Add mrmike29 to Your Contacts #5 Today, 04:53 AM
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Hey Jerry, I totally agree with your overall amount of SAN IV that were sold. Throughout the day SNBC normally would show the sold (ticker) of watches that was sold, I didn't see the S/T until the 10pm & 11pm rotations. What I don't understand is the amount of feedback concerning the price was met with a lot of backlash from Jim (Skelton) and Mike (Davis), this is a forum (no pun intended) where we as WG's can voice our opinion without being told to get a grip b/c we wanted to discuss the TTV's SAN Noma IV quartz price. I hope I don't get into any trouble for this post LOL. Peace and Blessings DJames1961 View Public Profile Send a private message to DJames1961 Find all posts by DJames1961 Add DJames1961 to Your Contacts #6 Today, 04:58 AM
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Yep the price and now everyone knows there are plenty of deals and more options outside shop. journeyguy View Public Profile Send a private message to journeyguy Find all posts by journeyguy Add journeyguy to Your Contacts #7 Today, 05:06 AM
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One thing that was left out was the long term problems with Quality issues.I have to say agree The Sunday run killed sales I bought a Leviathon Chrono. for 149.00 the same one is on the Shop for 327.00. Clearence sooner or latter the Mass will figure that one out davidboy View Public Profile Send a private message to davidboy Find all posts by davidboy Add davidboy to Your Contacts #8 Today, 05:07 AM
Customer Senior Member Senior Geek
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Maybe it's just the mode of life I'm in right now, but the lume shot killed the deal for me. Usually I have to order one of each because I can't make decisions. I think I'm at the stage of watch buying now where I will no longer buy a high-end watch, or a lower-end version of the high-end watch, if it has poor lume. Fashion watches I'm OK with, but not a watch that is supposed to be a serious timepiece. Customer View Public Profile Send a private message to Customer Find all posts by Customer Add Customer to Your Contacts #9 Today, 05:12 AM
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Although 1000 units moved at almost $500 each isn't chump change.... It does seem the entire SAN IV line has not flown off the shelves not just at Shop, anywhere. It would be easy to point to any number of reasons why, and I happen not to be in love
with it, but could it simply be the horrible economy? __________________ Remember, watches are people too. tampa8 View Public Profile Send a private message to tampa8 Find all posts by tampa8 Add tampa8 to Your Contacts #10 Today, 05:20 AM Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,003 Real Name: Dave
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Guess that means in about 45 days we will see a price drop on the silvertone at least. __________________
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Stingray Senior Member Super Geek
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Or could it simply be that more and more people are becoming leary of buying due to Invictas on going QC and CS problems. __________________
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I think it's a combination of many things. One is price of the Quartz Version as opposed to the 3 Hand Auto versions. Also Invicta more than any other company on Shop NBC, because of how many models they make and how many places they are available, hardly ever hold their value. I mean we're 2 months past the release of the 7750 versions and we've seen these go from about $1700 on Shop to under $1300 and even as low as $1100 on WoW. The 3 Hand has stayed the same on Shop but was available other places for slightly lower and even over $200 less on an hourly special not too long ago. It's happened with many other models as well and it just means the people who REALLY want that watch right when it releases will buy it but for most it just pays to wait. Also you can't forget that the other players on the Shop like Android, Renato and SO have been doing a great job and have really stepped up their game with great designs and CS as well. I'll be dealing with my first Invicta CS issue with my Bolt so I can't speak first hand but with so many bad experiences out there it definitely makes you uneasy. Plus with many of the other brands not really being as saturated in the market as Invicta is they hold their value much better in comparison.
I really like all my Invictas but having seen the process several times now myself I just wait it out unless for me it's one I have to get like my SAN III 2.4. jimmyv View Public Profile Send a private message to jimmyv Find all posts by jimmyv Add jimmyv to Your Contacts #13 Today, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DJames1961 Hey Jerry, I totally agree with your overall amount of SAN IV that were sold. Throughout the day SNBC normally would show the sold (ticker) of watches that was sold, I didn't see the S/T until the 10pm & 11pm rotations. What I don't understand is the amount of feedback concerning the price was met with a lot of backlash from Jim (Skelton) and Mike (Davis), this is a forum (no pun intended) where we as WG's can voice our opinion without being told to get a grip b/c we wanted to discuss the TTV's SAN Noma IV quartz price. I hope I don't get into any trouble for this post LOL. Peace and Blessings +1 I could not agree with you more. To be honest Im not comfortable making comments on ShopNBC events because of Jim and Mike. Say the wrong thing and you feel the rant on It's way. I see you feel the same way. BadMax View Public Profile Send a private message to BadMax Find all posts by BadMax Add BadMax to Your Contacts #14 Today, 05:46 AM
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I just cancelled my order on the silvertone, something about those hour markers that did not sing to me, I am bummed now but in the end i think I made the right decission... pipe24 View Public Profile
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Originally Posted by BadMax +1 I could not agree with you more. To be honest Im not comfortable making comments on ShopNBC events because of Jim and Mike. Say the wrong thing and you feel the rant on It's way. I see you feel the same way. Jim is very enthusiastic about his work and truly wants the best deals for us. i made some remarks on my threads but once you sit back and think about The shop is giving you the best deal for that watch on that day. Gencoupe10 View Public Profile Send a private message to Gencoupe10 Send email to Gencoupe10 Find all posts by Gencoupe10 Add Gencoupe10 to Your Contacts #16 Today, 05:58 AM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: durham nc. Posts: 1,370 Real Name: joe
jlovesseconds Senior Member Super Geek
i agree,as for myself i much rather have the 3hand auto and almost 5 bills for the quartz chrono is way to much for me to spend on that watch,but it is very nice,just not nice enough jmo jlovesseconds View Public Profile Send a private message to jlovesseconds
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I do not really like the SAN IV and I will stick with the SAN III. I like the SAN IV case and otherwise I like the SAN III better. What I dislike about the SAN IV is the cost, the crown protector, the shape of the screw down pushers, the raised portion of the bracelet. I do not think the SAN IV will be a major focus of invicta for more than an additional 18 months and you will soon see big price reductions; then the debut of the SAN V. watchdude View Public Profile Send a private message to watchdude Find all posts by watchdude Add watchdude to Your Contacts #18 Today, 06:05 AM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 1,089 Real Name: John
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I don't have a dog in this fight. 48mm is the top end for me. jb182 View Public Profile Send a private message to jb182 Find all posts by jb182 Add jb182 to Your Contacts #19 Today, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BadMax +1 I could not agree with you more. To be honest Im not comfortable making comments on ShopNBC events because of Jim and Mike. Say the wrong thing and you feel the rant on It's way. I see you feel the same way.
I am with you guys on this one...WG's know in a few months they will be marked down to $ 349 with some surprise price on event pricing.. Just the way they operate and we know it. EAS View Public Profile Send a private message to EAS Find all posts by EAS Add EAS to Your Contacts #20 Today, 06:24 AM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hamilton, NJ Posts: 289 Real Name: Michael
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They've had other 5040Fs go for less the $480 or so it seems. Didn't the SAN III 1.4 air for less then $300 when it debuted? It has a 5040F in it also. In any event I stopped playing the TTV game with the carefully worded "best value for today. After midnight you won't see this price again no matter how many we have left." Then 2 months later during a blow out sale the same watch is $100 - $150 less as a Once Only or Special price. I can wait and if I miss it, well I've missed watches before and have lived. I'll live this time too. __________________ "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Winston Churchill TEchG33k View Public Profile Send a private message to TEchG33k Find all posts by TEchG33k Add TEchG33k to Your Contacts #21 Today, 06:33 AM
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It's possible that people have had their fill of SubAqua's. Just how many "Executions" of the SubAqua are you going to buy. Yes it is the IV but it is almost the same as the III. A little change here and there but basically the same. The II to the III was a vast change and everyone fliped over the III and some bought every versions that were made. This one might have too much of the III's "DNA" to make you want to buy it. __________________
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I think at least for me is I didnt like the watch as much as the San 3. For my tastes thicker and heavier is a turnoff as well as the dots on the dial being uneven.
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Originally Posted by timeman Possibly for a number of reasons the Invicta Men's Subaqua Noma IV Swiss Chronograph Stainless Steel Watch - J179999 didn't sell too well yesterday IMO. I took the inventory a few hours before it officially aired at midnight and the amounts were: Rosetone=1060 Slivertone=1632 Total= 2692 The present amounts are: Rosetone=603 Slivertone=1082 Total= 1685 Jerry, I am obviously not going to get into what inventory levels were in regards to specific numbers. However, with that being said, I know what our inventory levels were when they went on sale and your numbers are wrong. I don't know how you attempt to get them, but I can tell you that they were significantly wrong. __________________
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Speculation for Sure. I'm in a NBZ, BUT if I Were Not, I would not have Jumped on the SNIV. DO NOT LIKE the new Dial Lay out ! I Guess Just Spoiled by the Earlier SNIII's. 4696, 4695 etc. IMHO the SNIII is a Hard one to Beat bugduck View Public Profile Send a private message to bugduck Send email to bugduck Find all posts by bugduck Add bugduck to Your Contacts #25 Today, 06:47 AM
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The price and the overall look kept me away. I have a SAN IV auto 3 hand I bought for $370 that I like and that will likely be the only SAN IV I ever buy. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 1,653 Real Name: Steve "Swolle"
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The way you get inventory numbers is by going to the page of the item.. then 'view source' and looking at the code for quantity or inventory for the amount remaining. This method appeared to be very accurate. I think 'Time Bandit' posted a how to on this. __________________
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Originally Posted by Swolletime The way you get inventory numbers is by going to the page of the item.. then 'view source' and looking at the code for quantity or inventory for the amount remaining. This method appeared to be very accurate. I think 'Time Bandit' posted a how to on this. Well, if that was the method used to obtain these starting numbers, I will say that the process is flawed. As I said, I know what our starting inventory numbers were as we went into the launch and the starting numbers here were significantly off. Additionally, I can see real time inventory numbers on the individual show hours and the ending numbers listed here were also significantly off as well. Just to be clear, I am not saying anything is wrong with this post per se. I am just saying that the starting and ending inventory numbers (and, hence, the amount sold) are just wrong. __________________ Michael
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Originally Posted by Swolletime The way you get inventory numbers is by going to the page of the item.. then 'view source' and looking at the code for quantity or inventory for the amount remaining. This method appeared to be very accurate. I think 'Time Bandit' posted a how to on this. This is the method I used to obtain the inventory. As I said in my OP, I don't know the original numbers sent to ShopNBC, just the inventory before the start of the airing and this morning. Recently when I spoke to ShopNBC customer service regarding availability of a certain watch. I first checked using this method. When I told the CS rep what I thought the availability was, she was surprised because my number was exactly what she showed. So I believe these numbers are valid. __________________
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Originally Posted by meijin Just to be clear, I am not saying anything is wrong with this post per se. I am just saying that the starting and ending inventory numbers (and, hence, the amount sold) are just wrong. I don't know the starting inventory. I just reported on the inventory before the airing and this morning. Here's the inventory at this moment: Rosetone=603 Silvertone=1086 Total=1689 In fact the Silvertone amount is four higher than the earlier amount this morning, so four orders were canceled. If you check the inventory now I would think they would be similar or the same as to what I reported. __________________
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I don't know the starting inventory. I just reported on the inventory before the airing and this morning. Here's the inventory at this moment: Rosetone=603 Silvertone=1086 Total=1689 In fact the Silvertone amount is four higher than the earlier amount this morning, so four orders were canceled. This method is only as accurate as the techgeek that programed the site. Anyway how else can the website update what's sold against what the call center is doing. The XML script needs to know what to start at before it can update it's own inventory properly. Unless the site is intentionally off to prevent overselling (hotels and airlines do this all the time with their inventory); but we're told time and time again by the host of the shows that they match; but again they're just saying what's being whispered in their ear. __________________ "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Winston Churchill TEchG33k View Public Profile Send a private message to TEchG33k Find all posts by TEchG33k Add TEchG33k to Your Contacts #31 Today, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by timeman This is the method I used to obtain the inventory. As I said in my OP, I don't know the original numbers sent to ShopNBC, just the inventory before the start of the airing and this morning. Recently when I spoke to ShopNBC customer service regarding availability of a certain watch. I first checked using this method. When I told the CS rep what I thought the availability was, she was surprised because my number was exactly what she showed. So I believe these numbers are valid. wow,whats the difference how many they sold,to me if they sold 1 or a million its not gonna get me a cup of coffee,that being said,its invicta's and the shop's concern how
many they sell,im here to talk about the timepiece,its a really nice watch,and whatever they ask for it is they're choice,just like it's your choice to purchase it or not,i grabbed the 7750 version before they even aired in march,(and i never stated how much i paid)on the shop,and i feel its a underpriced watch at the 1600.00 and change it started out at,you tell me where you can get another watch of this magnitude,complexity,design,weight,ETC for less than 2000.00,so in my eyes its a realisticly priced watch,and guess what(THATS ONLY MY OPINION) viper1 View Public Profile Send a private message to viper1 Find all posts by viper1 Add viper1 to Your Contacts #32 Today, 07:24 AM
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I like it but not at that price, this is one I will definetly wait on..I agree with you guys re: that dial and the hour markers. camarillo3561 View Public Profile Send a private message to camarillo3561 Find all posts by camarillo3561 Add camarillo3561 to Your Contacts #33 Today, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by viper1 wow,whats the difference how many they sold,to me if they sold 1 or a million its not gonna get me a cup of coffee,that being said,its invicta's and the shop's concern how many they sell,im here to talk about the timepiece,its a really nice watch,and whatever they ask for it is they're choice,just like it's your choice to purchase it or not,i grabbed the 7750 version before they even aired in march,(and i never stated
how much i paid)on the shop,and i feel its a underpriced watch at the 1600.00 and change it started out at,you tell me where you can get another watch of this magnitude,complexity,design,weight,ETC for less than 2000.00,so in my eyes its a realisticly priced watch,and guess what(THATS ONLY MY OPINION) Well said bro. Who cares? __________________
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TrashmanNYC Senior Member Veteran Geek
I got a SANIII with the same movement for $239. So I'll wait it out. __________________ Robb
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Leaving aside the inventory issue for the moment and returning to possible reasons why some might not want to buy the current version of the SAN IV. The perf dial. This is one of those design features that people seem to either love or strongly dislike. Doesn't seem to be much middle ground. I'm on the don't-like-em side and am not going to buy one. I don't even consider perf dials. People may have a hard time believing this but I wouldn't buy it for $89, let alone $489. Not going to wear it at any price. Weight. It weighs almost a pound, we're constantly told. Why? The case and bracelet were both made thicker. Why? Just to make it thicker and weigh more. Around 300 grams is about my weight limit. I don't understand a watch being made this heavy just to make it heavy. I just don't like the dial design on the chrono, the missing hour markers being a large part of this. The 3-hand, on the other hand, looks great, but it has a perf dial and weighs a pound. Changing the dial isn't going to make a 3-hand weigh less than a pound. I could wait until it comes on a rubber strap but the increased weight of the case would probably feel very top heavy on the wrist. Solution? I really like the SAN III, and I think the design of the SAN IV 3-hand is just great, if you can stand the weight. But for me, I'll probably have to wait for the SAN V.
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I never been a fan of the SAN series. Just something about them that doesn't thrill me. I cant say I will never like the series but until they come out with that version that makes me want it then I'm also in the NBZ for the SAN series. Invictus H-D View Public Profile Send a private message to Invictus H-D Send email to Invictus H-D Find all posts by Invictus H-D Add Invictus H-D to Your Contacts #37 Today, 07:43 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: St Louis Metro area Posts: 5,578
coolbreez Senior Member True WatchGeek
I would have paid that for the 3 hand automatic, but not the quartz. Even though it is the master calendar movement. That is a cool movement for sure but the price is too high. __________________ Dale aka Big Poppa
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I wouldn,t call 1600 watches a failure in three days .... I think thats a good number if you factor in the other brands that were selling along side Invicta.....<wink> Gencoupe10 View Public Profile Send a private message to Gencoupe10 Send email to Gencoupe10 Find all posts by Gencoupe10 Add Gencoupe10 to Your Contacts #39 Today, 08:02 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 365
Professorb Senior Member Senior Geek
Forgetting the price issue for a minute, I think the face of the watch distracts from the beauty of the 5040F movement. I have an SAN III with that movement on a "clean"
dial and it is something to behold. For us movement freaks, the face should enhance the movement and IMHO in this case (pun intended) it does not. I want the SAN IV but will wait for a better dial face. ProfessorB __________________
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Originally Posted by viper1 wow,whats the difference how many they sold,to me if they sold 1 or a million its not gonna get me a cup of coffee,that being said,its invicta's and the shop's concern how many they sell,im here to talk about the timepiece,its a really nice watch,and whatever they ask for it is they're choice,just like it's your choice to purchase it or not,i grabbed the 7750 version before they even aired in march,(and i never stated how much i paid)on the shop,and i feel its a underpriced watch at the 1600.00 and change it started out at,you tell me where you can get another watch of this magnitude,complexity,design,weight,ETC for less than 2000.00,so in my eyes its a realisticly priced watch,and guess what(THATS ONLY MY OPINION) Agreed. I can see both sides on this topic, but it's relative to the prices we compare it with. If you compare it to the retail market, these prices are a bargain +, but all of us Geeks are more "dialed in" to the prices of the Shop, WOW, Next Day etc and relative to those prices, it makes you think twice about pulling the trigger too soon. At the end of the day, the right price is what you feel comfortable paying. Gary __________________ Too many watches, not enough time. Rolex, Omega, Chase Durer, Poljot, Seiko, Orient, Invicta, Vostok Europe
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Originally Posted by yjmebs The dots are making me crazy. Add another dot or remove the all, it looks incomplete! You pointed this out when it first came out and and now I cannot get past the missing dot markers. Now everything I look at the dial all I can see is the incomplete look of the dial. It is all your fault now that I am not willing to buy a SAIV until they come out with a version that looks complete. Thanks alot for pointing this out some time back. If I would have made the purchase it would have bugged me eveything I put it on. __________________
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i have to agree with a lit of you guys if you wait yopu will get a better price im still new to collecting so also new to shop but ive learned my lessons i bought the new 360 chrono on the 32nd day it drop in price quite a lot i talked to cs they said to bad 30 days so i wil wait for the price to go down this time i do have the 3 hand anyway mikebell View Public Profile Send a private message to mikebell Find all posts by mikebell Add mikebell to Your Contacts #43 Today, 09:24 AM
rjones1994 Senior Member Veteran Geek
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Thankx Jerry for your information, It is very interesting even as Mike said flawd. Whatever we think it was a lower quanity the the Shop needed. I agree the precieved value did not match what we wanted to pay. IMHO rjones1994 View Public Profile Send a private message to rjones1994 Find all posts by rjones1994 Add rjones1994 to Your Contacts #44 Today, 09:41 AM
jwatchmonster
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 604 Real Name: John
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For me it's as simple as the fact that I already have 2 SAN III's and an SAN I Reserve re-issue and I'm just not in a rush to have another Subaqua. I like the watch but there are other watches out there that I would like to have more (like an SAS diver). __________________
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jwatchmonster View Public Profile Send a private message to jwatchmonster Send email to jwatchmonster Find all posts by jwatchmonster Add jwatchmonster to Your Contacts #45 Today, 09:42 AM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Seattle Wa. Posts: 229 Real Name: henry canares
hcanares Senior Member Senior Geek
will we see this under 300 down road? hcanares View Public Profile Send a private message to hcanares Find all posts by hcanares Add hcanares to Your Contacts #46 Today, 09:44 AM
Otrebla
Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 13
Junior Member New Geek Exactly our thoughts
Well said. there is a different between the perceived and actual price. We had the same thoughts when we looked at it. We understand it is not the same, but the 360 degrees with the same movement is selling for under $300 at ShopNBC. Although Renato is selling a variation of the movement for over$400 at ShopNBC too. http://www.shopnbc.com/Invicta_Men_s...1&track=-51101 Al Otrebla View Public Profile Send a private message to Otrebla Send email to Otrebla
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bluloo Senior Member Veteran Geek
Didn't read all posts but let's remember it's a holiday weekend and otherwise loyal viewers may be occupied with weekend plans as well. FWIW, I also don't have a dog in this fight. bluloo View Public Profile Send a private message to bluloo Find all posts by bluloo Add bluloo to Your Contacts #48 Today, 09:47 AM
jimmyv
Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 843 Real Name: Jim
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Originally Posted by hcanares will we see this under 300 down road? If the SAN III is any indication then yes. But it all depends on how many different versions they do with the SAN IV. The SAN III had almost endless variations of dial layouts, movements, bracelet and strap options and so on that we've seen them for as low as $149 I think in some cases. So just depends what Invicta does with the SAN IV but under $300 at some point is probably a safe bet. I mean some people were lucky enough to get the 3 Hand Auto for $370 as an hourly deal. jimmyv View Public Profile Send a private message to jimmyv Find all posts by jimmyv Add jimmyv to Your Contacts
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Originally Posted by icewolf64 Guess that means in about 45 days we will see a price drop on the silvertone at least. but to bad we are going to see aired every show for the next month until they are forced to drop the price ...299 once only in about a month Drops View Public Profile Send a private message to Drops Find all posts by Drops Add Drops to Your Contacts #50 Today, 11:01 AM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 79 Real Name: Barry
blduckhockey Member Member Geek
I am new to all this, but I am starting to figure out price point etc. However, the bottom line, We do not have to buy if we do not want to. OR, we can buy if it is something we want. If the Noma TTV Combat been available, I would have bought it. Since that was not available I got the excursion combat. Today, 11:04 AM
BadMax Senior Member Veteran Geek
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 757 Real Name: Michael
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Originally Posted by mikebell i have to agree with a lit of you guys if you wait yopu will get a better price im still new to collecting so also new to shop but ive learned my lessons i bought the new 360 chrono on the 32nd day it drop in price quite a lot i talked to cs they said to bad 30 days so i wil wait for the price to go down this time i do have the 3 hand anyway A lesson well learned, been there done that