Some further info on new Invicta models
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Topic: Some further info on new Invicta models (Read 127 times) Some further info on new Invicta models ÂŤ Thread Started on Oct 11, 2004, 11:46am Âť
Just got off the phone with Eyal and he answered all of the questions that have been asked of me this weekend.......... Joined: Sept 2004 Gender: Male Posts: 113 Location: NOVA
Russian Diver: Yes, I listed the movement correctly, it is a Unitas 6498 with a power reserve of 55 hours (he noted actual tests at 57 hours FYI). The screws ARE heat treated blue, he acknowledged they used the same process as every high end luxury brand does to blue the screws. As in my example earlier, you can see the difference between the 2048 Objet d'art and the Russian Diver as far as the blued screws are concerned. He pointed out that the 2048 was enamel painted screws (Invicta never claimed otherwise) and the Russian Diver has them heat treated. The engraving is done by hand.... but I have to be careful how that is phrased: Each movement is engraved by a person operating a handheld machine which does the engraving, they are not hand chiseled (not at this price point), and they follow a pattern so all the movements look alike. The engraving is not pressed, but machined. The general selling price (this is in no way a final price, but he wanted you to have a GENERAL idea) is roughly $600. He is aware that we all know how to manipulate the $50 coupons, so look for it to be around $550-$600. When I send the Russian back, it goes directly to SNBC, so he expects you can see it previewed on air with Shawn in the next 2 weeks or so during other shows. OGII Chrono: The GENERAL price to expect will be about $350 or so. So again, with our "lovely and talented" coupon hunters (Pam, Andrea) we should be able to hopefully nail a Swiss OGII for roughly$300. Again, I want to stress that none of these prices are 100% confirmed!! COSC Dragon Lupah: Eyal overnighted my sample today, it will be here tomorrow. It will have a sapphire crystal, and the movement is a Valjoux 7750.
The case will be guaranteed 10 microns of Swiss Rose Gold. It will have a textured Mother of Pearl dial. The movement is very different from previous auto Dragons in these respects: Rose gold plated and decorated. EVERY single movement is numbered, and is matched up to the case by these numbers. Eyal is extremely proud of this, and it is a very costly production step. So the movement you will have will match numerically to your case. It will be a Limited Edition. Since some movements do not pass COSC certification, and each movement is numbered to its case, the case will not carry a LE number like 001/500. Instead you get the matching numbers on the case, movement, and certificates. Each COSC Dragon will get 2 certificates. As of right now every manufacture (Omega, etc) gives you only a number on a card, only Rolex as far as I know gives you the actual COSC test sheet. The Lupah will get a small cert that fits in the box, and the FULL COSC certification sheet, included with the purchase... you will NOT need to send away to Invicta for it. The watch is tested for 15 days in 7 positions, each position is tested Twice. The general thought on the price (and this may change before the release in December) is roughly $1600-$1700. Which is only about $200 more than last years unmodified, undecorated, and uncertified Valjoux Dragons. Hope this helps! Link to Post - Back to Top
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A couple of clarifying points.... ÂŤ Reply #1 on Oct 11, 2004, 11:58am Âť
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Each COSC Dragon will get 2 certificates. As of right now every manufacture (Omega, etc) gives you only a number on a card, only Rolex as far as I know gives you the actual COSC test sheet. The Lupah will get a small cert that fits in the box, and the FULL COSC certification sheet, included with the purchase... you will NOT need to send away to Invicta for it.
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Neither Rolex or Omega send you the actual test records - you can request the actual test records for your watch from Omega, and they usually/generally send it. Rolex doesn't though. As a side note, when you buy a Grand Seiko, Seiko DOES send you the actual test records for your watch with the packaging. Of course, Seiko doesn't send their watches to COSC for certification, but instead does their own internal testing with standards which are more stringent than those of COSC. Thanks for the info Oompa! John
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Re: Some further info on new Invicta models « Reply #2 on Oct 11, 2004, 12:38pm »
Yeah, my wording wasn't all that great on that one huh? Joined: Sept 2004 Gender: Male Posts: 113 Location: NOVA
What I meant to say was... Rolex gives you an actual sheet of record, Omega and others merely give you a plastic card that states it was tested. My apologies for not wording it properly Link to Post - Back to Top
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Re: Some further info on new Invicta models « Reply #3 on Oct 11, 2004, 1:17pm »
Quote: My apologies for not wording it properly
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No problem - I wismord things all the time. My Speling isn't 100% either....
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Oompah are you a Invicta salesman now?
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Re: Some further info on new Invicta models « Reply #5 on Oct 13, 2004, 1:22am »
No Mike, but last month Eyal gave me exclusive rights to review upcoming (unreleased) models. Joined: Sept 2004 Gender: Male Posts: 113 Location: NOVA
The original deal was to review the COSC Speedway, but since he hasn't gotten any yet, he sent these three to "tide me over" until then. I will say that the COSC Dragon is far more impressive than even I expected and I am, as you kow, a big Lupah fan already. Link to Post - Back to Top
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Cool well if Invicta can impress you i might « Reply #6 on Oct 13, 2004, 1:46pm »
look at some of these! I value your opinion! See i did the same with JBHII now i own two Rolex but have recently sworn off Invicta! Joined: May 2005 Posts: 3,022 JBHII Administrator member is offline
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Re: Cool well if Invicta can impress you i might
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« Reply #7 on Oct 13, 2004, 1:55pm »
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look at some of these! I value your opinion! See i did the same with JBHII now i own two Rolex but have recently sworn off Invicta!
Perhaps Invicta has a few surprises left, and can reclaim many of the customers they've lost over the past two years.... John Link to Post - Back to Top
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Will see but it would be hard for me to buy at « Reply #8 on Oct 13, 2004, 1:57pm »
some of the prices considering you can get Omega,Oris and some others proven at the price zone they are attempting to get for their Joined: May 2005 Posts: 3,022
automatics! Bring on the Auto speedway! Link to Post - Back to Top Benedict Junior Member member is offline
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Re: Some further info on new Invicta models « Reply #9 on Oct 19, 2004, 12:01am »
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No Mike, but last month Eyal gave me exclusive rights to review upcoming (unreleased) models. The original deal was to review the COSC Speedway, but since he hasn't gotten any yet, he sent these three to "tide me over" until then. I will say that the COSC Dragon is far more impressive than even I expected and I am, as you kow, a big Lupah fan already.
Hey Oompa, I'm impressed with Eyal letting you review pre released models - good for you and keep up the good work - by the way - what is the latest on the New Speedway?
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Now bring on the Auto speedway! « Reply #10 on Oct 19, 2004, 12:33am »
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