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TTV none sold out, hmmm
Wow. I just saw that all colors are available of the TTV. You would have thought that from the "limited" quantities they would have sold out. I wonder if (cough) the insanely high price (cough) threw the "exclusivity" factor out the window. Yes, I am still bummed that I had to pass on this one. I really like the simpler dial lay out versus the more complicated looking ones of lately. __________________
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edgar3 Senior Member Senior Geek
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I think that Invicta has spoiled many of us with their ridiculously low prices on some truly incredible time pieces. Especially if you just wait a few months. Don't reckon Renato has anywhere near the production numbers that Invicta has. They want to make their money. For what it's worth, the Renato's tend to hold their value a bit more than Invicta. I love the renato's but, I wait and wait till I get a price drop before buying one... g __________________
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Not surprised here,People r looking for value
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I bought a SAN IV auto for less than that. Then I went and got another for less than that TTV price. Lets see, swiss made swiss auto (somewhat) limited (89/500), lower price ($449) 5yr warranty No matter how hard I try I can't justify getting it. I do have to give Renato props for a badass Vulcan design. __________________
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just wait and everything drops...simple .LOL journeyguy View Public Profile Send a private message to journeyguy Find all posts by journeyguy Add journeyguy to Your Contacts #6 Today, 06:22 AM
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blduckhockey Senior Member Senior Geek
This has been talked about in another thread--but for a TTV this watch was priced out of a range I was willing to pay. I really like the watch and wanted it but not at that price. Too bad. I feel TTV should be a price break or a way to make an item more affordable. That did not happen this time, thus lack of sales I believe. blduckhockey
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I would have loved to have purchased the TTV, but I am in a NBZ. I just purchased the TRex moonphase chrono and need to pay that off before I can make another purchase of that expense. I too love Renato (I own 15 of them) Their quality is really 2nd to none. I have not had to return any Renato for defects, unlike Invicta and Sturhling. I am not knocking either brands because I own more Invictas then any other and love them all! I do agree, if you wait, they will come down in price. I love the once only pricing and how knows, maybe they will do that in the next rotation to clear them out. For those that did pick up one, congrats!!! The are very nice time pieces! 3Floydsfan View Public Profile Send a private message to 3Floydsfan Send email to 3Floydsfan Find all posts by 3Floydsfan Add 3Floydsfan to Your Contacts #10 Today, 06:35 AM
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Either the price will drop or it will sell out. I'm hoping the price drops for you so you can enjoy the Renato. __________________ No one can ever have too many watches.
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and all day only 2 shows,The Watch Collector's Series 10 and 11 pm ,and its not just Renato,if it was invicta there would be like 7 hours of shows,lol __________________
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I don't feel their pricing strategy is in line with the current economic climate or consumer expectations. $400 and up is approaching Swiss Made automatics. bearralph View Public Profile Send a private message to bearralph Find all posts by bearralph Add bearralph to Your Contacts #13 Today, 06:45 AM Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Antonio,TX Posts: 1,391
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At $375 these are all gone.period and I would own one and at $425 the big dates would be all gone too- I know that Daniel wants to protect the brand and kick it to the higher level and I commend that- but in this economy maybe not the best time to resume that philosophy ? PBE (Pre-Bad Economy as per Magster) these prices would be fine- the world has changed. I think that all these new models are about 20-25% too high- but hey they are limited editions and try to sell them at the higher prices first and if it don't work out- drop the price- you will have sold a decent % at the make a good profit price! __________________ The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. ...Alexis de Tocqueville after travelling to America 1834 Z4MC View Public Profile Send a private message to Z4MC Find all posts by Z4MC Add Z4MC to Your Contacts #14 Today, 06:48 AM
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wave3214 Senior Member True WatchGeek
Personally I think the failure to sell out the TTV was two fold. First we've just come off the Must Watch Event so for a lot of people funds are a bit tight and second the price was a bit higher than everyone expected. In a couple weeks when the remaining stock is offered at around 400 they will all be gone ,,, just my 2 cents __________________
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I feel it is down to price. A fine watch, but it it is not preceived as a value. The Vulcan has been a while a some of us have other models. IMHO rjones1994 View Public Profile Send a private message to rjones1994 Find all posts by rjones1994 Add rjones1994 to Your Contacts #17 Today, 06:59 AM
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renato prices
i think renato is way over pricing there watches and then on the first markdown putting them at what should be the opining price it will take one or two cuts to be a good price let me toss this in i was told by a very goodsource this is from one of the top three watch .companys on shopthat the watches are seen by the shop buyers and at that time a buying price is set so anything that happens after that is controlled by shop not the watch companys so shop can sell a watch just to get it out of there stock even if it is at a loss because they will make it up somewhere else if you notice sometimes if the oweners are there they will be surprised at the low price and sometimes it is true rich
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I think the economy is partly to blame. Prices on essentials have risen, and I don't have the money to spare for luxuries. Pricing needs to be south of $400, and on some models $300 for me to justify a purchase. More advanced notice of models and prices would also help in planning a purchase. R __________________
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In these tighter economic times people are more impressed with price than they are exclusivity. There are so many stupidly low prices offered on WOW sales, deal a day sites, and Sunday runs, it's hard to get excited about this offer. Small quantities that are being pushed hard are not selling out quickly Renato, what does that tell you? (Hint: Price) __________________
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IMHO it is very hard to sell watch with cheap quartz movement (all quartz are cheap compare to swiss automatics) if price is getting close to price of some watch models with 7750 Valjoux inside (Ducatti, etc.). Sub 500 price is just too much for quartz no matter how beautiful that watch is (same goes for SAN IV quartz). That is my point of view, of course not everyone will have the same opinion. horacus View Public Profile Send a private message to horacus Find all posts by horacus Add horacus to Your Contacts #21 Today, 08:41 AM Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 489
Withoutlooking Senior Member Senior Geek
I am dieing for a Vulcan but I just can't pay 400+ for this watch. Daniel make more and sell at a lower price. I could care less if there were 75 or 500 made. I just want a cool watch. Withoutlooking View Public Profile Send a private message to Withoutlooking Find all posts by Withoutlooking Add Withoutlooking to Your Contacts #22 Today, 08:44 AM
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Welcome to the wonderful world of retailing... I thought that for quartz movement it was to high, just my opinion. MamboKing View Public Profile Send a private message to MamboKing Find all posts by MamboKing
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I agree with you Petr (Horacus) bigdial View Public Profile Send a private message to bigdial Find all posts by bigdial Add bigdial to Your Contacts #24 Today, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlieB In these tighter economic times people are more impressed with price than they are exclusivity. There are so many stupidly low prices offered on WOW sales, deal a day sites, and Sunday runs, it's hard to get excited about this offer. Small quantities that are being pushed hard are not selling out quickly Renato, what does that tell you? (Hint: Price) Yup .... agree completely. When Renato first came back to shop they experimented with a lower range price, and stuff sold out quickly .... now they are experimenting with the upper end of the range ... and sales are slow ..... eventually, they will settle somewhere in the middle. But it is a smart strategy for them to be testing the range. __________________ "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" - Jimi Hendrix WatchYaThink View Public Profile Send a private message to WatchYaThink Send email to WatchYaThink Find all posts by WatchYaThink
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Originally Posted by blduckhockey This has been talked about in another thread--but for a TTV this watch was priced out of a range I was willing to pay. I really like the watch and wanted it but not at that price. Too bad. I feel TTV should be a price break or a way to make an item more affordable. That did not happen this time, thus lack of sales I believe. i think at less than $100 vp's it was made affordable to most. i really wanted it, but just cant with all the things i have to do at home. had this been a few months ago i would have grabbed it up. usually introductory renatos are low to mid $500's, hardly ever in the 4's. like was said, i thin kwe are spoiled by invicta TTV's, and they are two different beasts __________________
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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink Yup .... agree completely. When Renato first came back to shop they experimented with a lower range price, and stuff sold out quickly .... now they are experimenting with the upper end of the range ... and sales are slow ..... eventually, they will settle somewhere in the middle. But it is a smart strategy for them to be testing the range. Very good evaluation. I also think the lower pricing strategy is coming back to bite them. People think Renato pricing should now be in the Invicta price range. I dont think they should be that being said the TTV was about 100$ too high IMHO. __________________
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I would own at least one of the color options but at this time I can't get out of the NBZ. I feel the quality of the watch and movement can be justified by the price but agree with most that it is just a touch high.
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They really screwed this one up! I will wait and pick one up on clearance for 299 in a few months __________________
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Originally Posted by skibovr6 They really screwed this one up! I will wait and pick one up on clearance for 299 in a few months wont be $299 guaranteed that but they will be $350- and if they were $350 last night the Combat model would have been mine!! __________________ The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. ...Alexis de Tocqueville after travelling to America 1834 Z4MC View Public Profile Send a private message to Z4MC Find all posts by Z4MC Add Z4MC to Your Contacts #30 Today, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Knifemaker unless you have had a Renato inhand you will never compair a R to an I in price. No comparison in quality either I agree there is NO comparison between a Renato and an Invicta....The Quality of Renato blows Invicta right out of the water. I will admit, though that some of the
Invicta Reserve pieces are comparable, but the regular watches, NO WAY. To me...Invicta is a dime a dozen, but Renato is cream of the crop. WatchGeek4Life View Public Profile Send a private message to WatchGeek4Life Find all posts by WatchGeek4Life Add WatchGeek4Life to Your Contacts #31 Today, 12:51 PM
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I love my Renato's.... I paid alot more for mine a few years back... Now that I am retired I look for a better price... I wanted to get the TTV put will wait for a drop in price also.. __________________
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For me, the main problem was the black IP -- I have enough black watches that are in my rotation, about six, and I have trouble wearing black more that that. I want a Vulcan in the stainless finish, but the one I want is even more money that the TTV, so I'm waiting. jtwatchguy View Public Profile Send a private message to jtwatchguy Find all posts by jtwatchguy Add jtwatchguy to Your Contacts #33 Today, 03:40 PM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Warwick, RI Posts: 1,811 Real Name: Jason
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what was the last TTV that sold out ? I think it was the DMP . I think when a TTV gets above 300 bills and there are over 1500 for the event it has a hard time selling out ..plus the all the watch shows through out the week ...don't help Drops View Public Profile Send a private message to Drops Find all posts by Drops Add Drops to Your Contacts #34 Today, 03:52 PM
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I was suprised at no sell outs. I would have gone for this but have spent my $ elsewhere. I like the clean dial without all the clutter. __________________ Gunther Up the Irons, Down the Smirny Gunther View Public Profile Send a private message to Gunther Find all posts by Gunther Add Gunther to Your Contacts #35 Today, 04:07 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,796
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I really wanted the black/green but not at this price - maybe at $350 or less... bearralph View Public Profile Send a private message to bearralph Find all posts by bearralph Add bearralph to Your Contacts #36 Today, 05:08 PM
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Of course I liked some of the lower prices as well, but for me it is the lack of significant value pays recently that has canned my upper end Shop buying. I feel that a Renato is worth $4-500, and with a sub $100 VP I can manage that. Without those VPs, I just cannot do it... or won't. Same effect. __________________ Drink The TEA, My Friends!
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Originally Posted by WatchGeek4Life I agree there is NO comparison between a Renato and an Invicta....The Quality of Renato blows Invicta right out of the water. I will admit, though that some of the Invicta Reserve pieces are comparable, but the regular watches, NO WAY. To me...Invicta is a dime a dozen, but Renato is cream of the crop. I have YET too see this become real. I have tried Renato and yet too be impressed with there so called quality level that people so rant about. As far as the TTV it was exactly that $100.00 more then it should have been. I dont like the Vulcan, but if I did I would pay no more then $350.00 for one and that is a stretch IMO! __________________ Not the official Invicta complain Dept RipitRon View Public Profile Send a private message to RipitRon Find all posts by RipitRon Add RipitRon to Your Contacts #38 Today, 05:41 PM
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As someone once said, 'It's the economy, stupid." If people couldn't spring over $350 a few months ago, they certainly can't pay over that now. I remember the first OTVs -prices that were a little more affordable and with decent VPs. It does make a difference. JavaQueen View Public Profile Send a private message to JavaQueen Find all posts by JavaQueen Add JavaQueen to Your Contacts #39 Today, 05:42 PM
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I COULDN'T care less (the correct phrase if you don't care about something) if they are not 100% Swiss Made, I'm assuming that the cases are made in China (about the only place where steel is being made nowadays. But I wish that the prices would reflect that. I do own one Renato, the interchangeable T-Rex and love it! 200 bux for a Swiss Mov't that is quartz is about as high as they should go though. packerfan View Public Profile Send a private message to packerfan Find all posts by packerfan Add packerfan to Your Contacts #40 Today, 06:06 PM
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Others have said it, you are competing for our cash so you need to come strong. This wasn't a 2 tone 7750 t-rex for $500. It was a quartz and I already have a bunch of them. __________________ We all need a good camel. Jim3 View Public Profile Send a private message to Jim3 Find all posts by Jim3 Add Jim3 to Your Contacts #41 Today, 06:11 PM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 1,018 Real Name: Allen
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The quality is there and the price reflects it, TTV should be a deal. That was just a small sale price especially for a quartz watch!
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Just gose to show very low le of 50 in most colors 75 in one color and 100 in black and at 10pm at night not one sell out,my limit was 359 and would have sold out at that price.I MEAN ANDROID COMES OUT WITH A SWISS AUTO 2824 WITH SAPPHIRE CRYSALS FOR 239 AND I BOUGHT 2 FOR THE SAME PRICE HERE __________________ the good i've done no one remembers, the bad no one forgets.
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Way to go geeks! The market and consumer demand will eventually dictate the prices. Of course, Daniel may decide SNBC is not going to be the appropriate outlet to help him accomplish his pricing model - that is always a possibility. bearralph View Public Profile Send a private message to bearralph Find all posts by bearralph Add bearralph to Your Contacts #45 Today, 06:36 PM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Moreno Valley, CA. Posts: 956 Real Name: Shawn
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A TTV has to be $ 300 or less for me to even think about it. To get five $ 100 a month value pays is not going to do it for most of us. That is still a lot of money for one watch. I guess that works if you only buy two watches a year. There is just too many cool watches coming out and there is no way I can settle on just two watches per year. Love Renato watches but unless it is in the price range of the T-REX Strap set or the Beast Dual Time I am out. __________________
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